RATM Reunion?

[raYge]

I've been hearing lots of rumours...And I'm a HUGE Rage fan, so this would be awesome...I'm still really doubtful though. Even Zack De La Rocha's webiste has a link on there that says RATM Reunion...but the link won't work:upset:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I hope they don't. Tom Morello could only be original for 3 albums, anything more from RATM would probably just be a reincarnation.

[pate]

*3 notes.

And I don't mean that in a totally negative way. He's done a ton staying between the 5th and 7th frets.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Hex wrenches and feedback go a long ways in terms of variety. :p

[PinkFreud]

Don't forget his kill switch that he over-uses too.

[PAJJ]

didn't they recentley say they turned down a 7 figure re-union offer?
and as big a RATM fan as i am, i hope they don't, they should leave it in the past.

that doesn't mean to say if they do, i won't be there :p

[2muchket!]

Hmmm I'm skeptical as much as I'd love to see 'em live, don't think it would be the same, and I'm quite a big RATM fan.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Don't forget his kill switch that he over-uses too.

I want to asking stupid Tom why he never just used a stupid tremelo pedal. I mean, honestly, You could do a lot more with a trem pedal than his 'well I switched the pup with this hand and..' deal. Ugh, I'm angered.

[MetalOz]

Zack is the only one that would benefit from a reunion. Audioslave are doing just fine.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

That would be awesome if they had a reunion.
Soundgarden and RATM > Audioslave.

[TojesDolan]

Yeah but Soundgarden is very lost upon the nothingness of time. And Grunge Rock. Ergh.


Anyway, let's hope the best happens. I hadn't realized that "Revelations" is actually an album. I thought it was some sort of live effort. Silly tojeam.

[repcak]

i heard this rumors some yrs ago... so its nothing new.

personally i think that Audioslave sucks (sorry for that) - i bought the first album and i never really liked it... maybe the other ones are better, but meanwhile i listen to metal, so i'm not into rock anymore.
if there would be a reunion, sure, ok, do it... but don't record a new album, just go on tour.

[PinkFreud]

Soundgarden and Audioslave are both better than RATM ever was. Soundgarden by a lot, Audioslave by a little.

[132WalrusesInMexico]

i heard this rumors some yrs ago... so its nothing new.

personally i think that Audioslave sucks (sorry for that) - i bought the first album and i never really liked it... maybe the other ones are better, but meanwhile i listen to metal, so i'm not into rock anymore.
if there would be a reunion, sure, ok, do it... but don't record a new album, just go on tour.
As for Out Of Exile, it's terrible IMO. I'm not sure about their newest album. Audioslave does kind of suck.

[Lunch]

I prefer RATM to Audioslave by a lot, but since Audioslave is successful somehow I doubt those three would want to reunite with Zach when whatever they're doing now is working for them.

[Thor]

But didn't Audioslave say that Revelations was going to be their last album?

[Lunch]

I sure hope so.

[repcak]

RATM split up cause Zack de la Roch wanted to change their style towards hip hop, Morello more into Rock/Metal

[PinkFreud]

Audioslave's a fine pop-rock band if you can accept that. Not to mention that Chris Cornell is years more talented than Mr. "I can't rap OR sing." His lyrics weren't very good either.

[Thor]

I sure hope so.
I'm pretty sure that I saw a news article a while back saying that this would be their last album. I really hope it is also...they just never did it for me.

[PAJJ]

they quashed those rumors in another article, along with the fact they aren't touring, it was because chris annouced his next solo record, it was assumed they were splittling up.

[Anglachel]

They were born, lived, and died. To come back now would defy basic knowledge! >_> <_<


I hope they dont.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Soundgarden and Audioslave are both better than RATM ever was. Soundgarden by a lot, Audioslave by a little.

You say this so objectively...

Anyway, as bad as I think mainstream radio rock is as a whole, Original Fire, Audioslave's new single, makes me think even less of it. :-/ I honestly cannot stand that song.

[PinkFreud]

Original Fire's by far the weakest track on the album and that's really just because Tom's solo is out of place and awkward.

I guess it did come off kind of objective. Like when people say "RATM AND SOUNDGARDEN>>>AUDIOSLAVE" which happens whenever Audioslave's brought up. Like Zach De La Rocha could do anything right. Terrible singer, terrible rapper, mediocre lyricist. I guess I should get out of the RATM thread, huh?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Heh, sorry, I only attacked you because I agree with everyone else, I suppose. :p I can agree with you on the fact that Zack shouldn't have ever have tried to be melodic. Kick Out the Jams was the worst cover on Renegades.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I would kill to see RATM live.

[Shadius]

Maybe if Auidioslave runs its course, they should consider it in a few years. Having Rage back on the road would be very cool and they've been an inspiration to so many musicians and seemed to put on a hell of a live show.

I suppose if they waited a few more years they could try and release a new album too, but I think it would be rushed/silly to just jump into anything like that right now, especially as some kind of sideproject to Audioslave.

[Banshee]

RATM split up cause Zack de la Roch wanted to change their style towards hip hop, Morello more into Rock/Metal
Tom morello kinda failed hard then.
The 1st album was kinda the same as rage, an now they just seem like any other indie/rock band to me.

Plus i thought they split because they signed to sony and zack thought it was too mainstream or something?

[Clunge]

A RATM reunion tour would be amazing, but no more music please because it would (probably) be rubbish.

[Iron Bars]

I would kill to see RATM live.

Me too, I nearly spent my entire teens listening to them.

[Stoo]

I would kill to see RATM live.
I would kill several people.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, how I could just kill a man! (To see RATM, duh)

So, fag puns ftw tonight? :p

[DekWannaBFlea]

I highly doubt that there would be a reunion. And I highly doubt that Audioslave is breaking up.

[2muchket!]

I'd kill to see RATM live. And i'd love to hear an album along the lines of their Self Titled. That would make me sooooooooooo happy.

[PAJJ]

i prefered Battle.... it was more progressive, something along the lines of the S/T would be standing still, which would be stupid given the time it's been since the album.
And although Audioslave haven't really produced anything that great (in all fairness matching any of their previous band effort would be a pretty outstanding feat) they're still and incredible live band, and i'm glad they're still going.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

I wouldn't care about new music from RATM so long as I got to see them live. Audioslave have gone from being a moderately good rock band to being massively boring in that they seem to have a few songs that they rework for each album, so whether or not they split isn't something that I care about. It's a shame really, as the combination of Cornell with the instrumental section from Rage really had the potential to make some great music.

This is exactly how I feel. RATM had something that was good but by the time TBOLA came out the songs weren't nearly as good as the first two, well at least IMO. Still, I would LOVE to see them live.:thumb:

[south_guitar]

The rumors are all rooted in a few pictures taken of a fan with Zack and Tom at some festival. They both happened to be there, and they both happen to be good friends still and the fan took the oppurtunity to get a snap with them both.

I don't think a RATM reunion is imminent.

[rata]

Original Fire's by far the weakest track on the album and that's really just because Tom's solo is out of place and awkward.

Terrible singer, terrible rapper, mediocre lyricist.


i dunno, but i find Original Fire as their best song. Tom's solo came off weak though.

yeah, i agree on you, he cant sing and his lyrical style werent really that original considering that Public Enemy already did that style before... though i give him props with his rapping skills. his all original IMO, style-wise.. even KRS-ONE envys him. besides, his the only rapper who got everybodys attention and giving everybody an in-depth point of view of a lyrical activist....

[MVH]

Haha, no one likes the laughing monkey solo... Oh well... :smash:

I'd kill my entire family who I love with all my heart, to see RAGE fvckin' ONCE, just ONCE! I don't think a new RAGE album would sound to smooth, ack's solo stuff should be fine. :chug:


Oh, and Zack was an amaing lyricist, fvck you. You know who you are.

[Jimi Haze]

It would be so awesome.

I'd love to see 'em live, just so much energy, power and shizzle. However i agree with no more new stuff as it could be a bit crap, however with what's going on in the world at the moment I'm sure Zack wouldn't have any problem creating some awesome 'political poetry' ;)

[!aaa!]

I respect the opinion of the person who called ZDLR a mediocre lyricist BUT I could not disagree more. The lyrics on Battle of Los Angeles are some of his best, especially on Maria.

[Grumma]

Mr. "I can't rap OR sing." His lyrics weren't very good either.

I whole-heartedly disagree

[Eliminator]

Well it would be better than hearing Cornell further butcher those songs.

[i am the robots]

It would be cool, but it won't happen.

[mx Bass player]

rage wont get back together....audioslave are still good, there first album was the best...and anyone who says zacks not a good rapper can get fvcked....hes better than all these black rappers who all sound the same.

[PinkFreud]

Clearly you don't listen to rap at all. Even in mainstream rap there are clear variations. Also, if you DID listen to any good rap, you'd realize that De La Rocha actually IS a terrible rapper.

Grumma, that's fine. You can disagree, a lot of it is personal preference. I maintain my position though.

[Crickets On A Plane]

Clearly you don't listen to rap at all. Even in mainstream rap there are clear variations. Also, if you DID listen to any good rap, you'd realize that De La Rocha actually IS a terrible rapper.

Grumma, that's fine. You can disagree, a lot of it is personal preference. I maintain my position though.

I agree with you all the way. Bad lyrics, singer & rapper.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I didn't know you were a Hip Hop fan.

[Crickets On A Plane]

I didn't know you were a Hip Hop fan.

Me? I'm not a "fan", but I like some tunes if they're catchy enough.

[2muchket!]

Clearly you don't listen to rap at all. Even in mainstream rap there are clear variations. Also, if you DID listen to any good rap, you'd realize that De La Rocha actually IS a terrible rapper.

Grumma, that's fine. You can disagree, a lot of it is personal preference. I maintain my position though.

ZDLR is an average rapper but an excelent lyricist. He doesn't compare to Sway or Dizzee IMO still better than Chamillionaire tho'. Altho it doesn't take much I suppose.

I agree occassionally ZDLR made some cheesy lyrics. But when he was on top form he made the band oh so much better.

[mx Bass player]

Clearly you don't listen to rap at all. Even in mainstream rap there are clear variations. Also, if you DID listen to any good rap, you'd realize that De La Rocha actually IS a terrible rapper.

Grumma, that's fine. You can disagree, a lot of it is personal preference. I maintain my position though.

dude fvck off out of the thread if u dont like rage or whatever....you cant possibly say he is a terrible rapper....dude your an idiot piss off

[Mazeppa]

They wouldn't inflict a reunion upon us would they?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

dude fvck off out of the thread if u dont like rage or whatever....you cant possibly say he is a terrible rapper....dude your an idiot piss off
He is entitled to his opinion.

For your information, I too strongly disagree, but I don't feel the need to tell PF to "fvck off out of the thread", as you so eloquently put it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think my favorite ZDLR lyrics come from perhaps my least favorite RATM song in Settle for Nothing. "If ignorance is bliss, then will someone knock the smile off my face." :cool:

[PinkFreud]

dude fvck off out of the thread if u dont like rage or whatever....you cant possibly say he is a terrible rapper....dude your an idiot piss off
That's a nice counterpoint. Thanks for your opinion.

I guess I asked for it, posting that in a RATM thread.

[Grumma]

Clearly you don't listen to rap at all. Even in mainstream rap there are clear variations. Also, if you DID listen to any good rap, you'd realize that De La Rocha actually IS a terrible rapper.

Grumma, that's fine. You can disagree, a lot of it is personal preference. I maintain my position though.

I dont listen to a lot of rap (at all) but I still like Zach's vocals and lyrics.
So he probably is "terrible" as you put it but I'd still prefer him over anything else Ive heard

[headup13]

I dont listen to a lot of rap (at all) but I still like Zach's vocals and lyrics.
So he probably is "terrible" as you put it but I'd still prefer him over anything else Ive heard+1!!!!!!!!

[mx Bass player]

He is entitled to his opinion.

For your information, I too strongly disagree, but I don't feel the need to tell PF to "fvck off out of the thread", as you so eloquently put it.

it needed to be said and he asked for it

[static]

Zack is and was the best frontman I have ever heard/seen/witnessed in my short lifetime. His vocals were raw, his lyrics were insane, and his stage presence was most excellent.



I hate what Morello has become.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

it needed to be said and he asked for it
It didn't need to be said you ****ing idiot.

[static]

Man, everybody is so friendly here!

[Huber]

Zack is and was the best frontman I have ever heard/seen/witnessed in my short lifetime. His vocals were raw, his lyrics were insane, and his stage presence was most excellent.



I hate what Morello has become.

An excellent riff writer?

[static]

Dated solos, dated effects, simple uncatchy riffs.


He used to have great original work in Rage, but I think he kinda took it down and went quite mainstream with Audioslave. I mean, there were quite a few good songs on the Self Titled album, but their latest two were mediocre at best.

[Huber]

Dated solos, dated effects, simple uncatchy riffs.


He used to have great original work in Rage, but I think he kinda took it down and went quite mainstream with Audioslave. I mean, there were quite a few good songs on the Self Titled album, but their latest two were mediocre at best.

You lost me at the bolded.

I don't know. I suppose it's fair you don't find Audioslaves recent stuff catchy, but damn, to me that's all he's got going for him these days.

[static]

For me when referring to Audioslave, I would call "Your Time Has Come", "Show Me How To Live" and "Gasoline" to be catchy, whereas I don't find many songs on Revelations to have good riffs or catchiness at all.

[PinkFreud]

it needed to be said and he asked for it
Yeah, I like how you think you taught me a lesson. You sure told me. :thumb:

[rata]

all great guitarists also have their down time. with morello, his time has come. i think.:D

i dont think revelations is really that bad.. with the first two records its easy to point out what songs sounds like their previous bands..

though i still find original fire's solo being too repetitive.

[mx Bass player]

It didn't need to be said you ****ing idiot.

who asked you fckhead

[mx Bass player]

Dated solos, dated effects, simple uncatchy riffs.


He used to have great original work in Rage, but I think he kinda took it down and went quite mainstream with Audioslave. I mean, there were quite a few good songs on the Self Titled album, but their latest two were mediocre at best.

post some of your music...lets see how unorignal it is

[mx Bass player]

Yeah, I like how you think you taught me a lesson. You sure told me. :thumb:

wat you on about....i clearly dont...bak to sleep mate

[Apocalyptic Raids]

you sure showed him

[BassCozzy]

i really dont like the solo to orignal fire really ruins the song for me which is a shame but i'll give him bonus points for sounding original in the ****test decade of music.

[blueyxd]

I won't support an RATM reform unless Soundgarden also reforms. If Audioslave continues or not, I couldn't care less.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yes, Soundgarden reunion would be very nice.

[Stoo]

Dated solos, dated effects, simple uncatchy riffs.


He used to have great original work in Rage, but I think he kinda took it down and went quite mainstream with Audioslave. I mean, there were quite a few good songs on the Self Titled album, but their latest two were mediocre at best.

The riff for the title track "Revelations" is pretty damn good.

[PinkFreud]

wat you on about....i clearly dont...bak to sleep mate
You sounded pretty damn smug even though you had no reason to be. And by the way, you won't last very long here if you keep acting like you are.

[static]

First off, MXBP, get out.


Second of all, I merely stating that I don't find Tom's riffs in Audioslave to be nearly as original, innovative, and yet catchy at the same time as his previous works.

It's an opinion.

[Jacaranda]

An opinion that is totally correct.

[static]

Why thank you, Jack.

[2muchket!]

His work with aduioslave is patchy. I think he may have run out of ideas when it comes to writing solo's/riffs. I hope not as some of his work has been amazing.

Ah well atleast the rythm section is amazing as always.

[El_Goodo]

I've been hearing lots of rumours...And I'm a HUGE Rage fan, so this would be awesome...I'm still really doubtful though. Even Zack De La Rocha's webiste has a link on there that says RATM Reunion...but the link won't work:upset:

Ah so the one member of Rage that has totally disapeared off the face of the earth has the link? Well that's certainly not for any publicity reasons at all.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

I'd love to see a Rage reunion, though if they made any new music, I don't think it would be anywhere near as good as the previous stuff. I personally don't have any problems with Zack, he does whats required, not an amazing singer but he does whats needed. I always thought he was lyrically very good, I dunno, just my opinion on that.

What happened to this solo project that Zack was meant to have done? What was that all about?!

[static]

Being released the Tuesday after Chinese Democracy.

[Stoo]

Haha.

[sportsfan4427]

i think a reunion would be cool probably not as good as when they first started out but still good

[apromisingyear]

I'm in favor of RATM getting together again...

Like many on here said, I dont think they'll be as good as before but I guess in a sense we can't expect that of them because im sure Zack (and we all know all the other members) have grown musicially. So to expect the same would only be you letting yourself down...

I'd still get the record and maybe catch a show.

[Stoo]

"Maybe catch a show" :eek:

I'd kill everyone I know to go to a RATM giiiiiig.

[2muchket!]

^ I would too.

[superpeer]

I would also kill everyone you know.

What?

[Stoo]

We'll do it half n half.

[raYge]

Alright, I kinda forgot about this thread.

First of all, PinkFreud, Zack may not be a GREAT rapper, but I think he is pretty good. His lyrics, I find to be quite amazing. Sure he has his weak points,(Killing In The Name)and repition, but overall they are original and well done.

Second, Tom's riffing is fvcking awesome, maybe not so much on Audioslave. It's definitely not as hardcore, but it's still alright for the most part.

And, I would definitely prefer to see them live over a new cd. JUST ONCE!!:smash:

[infinitestrain]

I like the original RAGE, and I liked Soundgarden, they mixed the two together and got crap. Should have stayed the same if you ask me, 'cause I do not care for Audioslave at all. Chris's voice sucks with the combination of RAGE's sound. But that is my opinion.

[Jimi Haze]

I like the original RAGE, and I liked Soundgarden, they mixed the two together and got crap. Should have stayed the same if you ask me, 'cause I do not care for Audioslave at all. Chris's voice sucks with the combination of RAGE's sound. But that is my opinion.

Nah his voice is just ruined. Although I havn't seen Audioslave live, I've seen videos of them Live and he can't sing at all live - it's just been wrecked. Them doing Killing in the Name of and Live 8 was dire.

[PinkFreud]

Live 8 was a terrible performance in general. Cornell's voice is actually improving, not from his days in Soundgarden or Temple Of The Dog, but from the early days of Audioslave. He's traded some range (well, a considerable amount of range) for much improved control. MUCH improved control. Better than he's ever had.

[Stoo]

Audioslave are awesome live.

Tom Morello has the greatest stage presence of any musician I know.

raYge: What's wrong with the Killing In The Name lyrics?

[omgwtfboogie]

raYge: What's wrong with the Killing In The Name lyrics?

That's what I was wondering.

"**** you I won't do what you tell me" might not be the most creative thing in the world, but damn does it get me going.

[randomthought9]

I like Audioslave, but they are basically RATM watered down, they don't have that something that RATM does, I'd love to see Rage back together.

[silicon71]

RATM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Audioslave

[ghettoeddo]

wow old thread.

did zack ever release his solo album?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Don't think so.

[Zebba]

Too all the people who said they dont want audioslave to release any more albums and stop???? why... if you dont like them that doesnt mean they have to stop recording albums, that just means that YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY/LISTEN TO IT...

[mick7]

RATM reunion? Wow, that would be great!

I haven't seen them live but love a lot of there music - rock!

[Clunge]

Too all the people who said they dont want audioslave to release any more albums and stop???? why... if you dont like them that doesnt mean they have to stop recording albums, that just means that YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY/LISTEN TO IT...
They should die and go back to their original bands, i.e. when they were good.

[PinkFreud]

Man, I really wish people would keep complaining about Audioslave and wishing that the members would go back to their original bands. Maybe it'll make a difference!

[Rory91]

I somehow doubt there will be a reunion seeing as Zack has started a new band with John Theodore (ex the mars volta!) which should be wicked i might add!!!

[Clunge]

Cheers PF :cool: .

[PinkFreud]

I somehow doubt there will be a reunion seeing as Zack has started a new band with John Theodore (ex the mars volta!) which should be wicked i might add!!!
Those are rumors. Nothing's confirmed yet.

[raYge]

Audioslave are awesome live.

raYge: What's wrong with the Killing In The Name lyrics?

Well the whole fvck you I won't do what you tell me...motherfvkers!!!!!!!! thing is great

Like I mean...the entire song sends out a great message...maybe the repitition was supposed to send that idea out...but I just think the song could have some more lyrics...

I came off sounding like I didn't like the lyrics..didn't mean to

[Stoo]

Quality, not Quantity. :smoke:

When hey did it live, Zack would change lyrics...

"Some of those that hold office, are the same that burn crosses..." Etc.

[Oddsen]

I think someday they will get back together. I want to see them live.

[2muchket!]

I'd love to see 'em live, I'd also like to see morello stop being lazy and rely on effects so much. His technique with Rage was flawless and he made some great innovations. However 2 note solo's laden with effects ??

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I somehow doubt there will be a reunion seeing as Zack has started a new band with John Theodore (ex the mars volta!) which should be wicked i might add!!!

!!

This would win.

[BobaloGDOG]

Ok, here's my opinion.

Rage Against The Machine.. is the PERFECT band to get in a fight to.. with like Bulls On Parade going on in the backround. And Tom Morello's work in RATM is much more talented and memorable than in Audioslave (though, I don't hate Audioslave, I'll get to that shortly)

Soundgarden.. was just that band to sit and chill out to. And back when they were popular sit and smoke some pot.. then listen to Black Hole Sun.. that's probably how the idea of the video came about anyways.


Audioslave.. Now this is both of these bands from the nineties combined into a "supergroup" you can say. No, the music from this band isn't as good as from Soundgarden or RATM. But they still have some songs that you must admit remind you of they're old bands. Like say the song "Out Of Exile" listening to that song is like the perfect mix between both bands. With the kick *** guitar riffs and the nice hard as hell basslines.

Now, another band that is kind of a "supergroup" is Velvet Revolver, and also the newest "supergroup" band.. Army Of Anyone.. Which Velvet Revolver consists of Scott from Stone Temple Pilots then the rest of Guns N Roses members.. except for that one guitarist.. I have no idea where he's from.

And then we have Army Of Anyone.. which has Richard Patrick from the band Filter.. and then the guitarist and bassist (I think, it might be the drummer) from Stone Temple Pilots. So, none of these "supergroup" bands has ever been better then their bands that first made them big. Yet, their new bands still have good music. IMO

[raYge]

:rolleyes: lol...that message moved from ratm to supergroups...ahaha

[ghettoeddo]

chris cornell actually did the title soundtrack to casino royale...it was pretty good haha

[Stoo]

omgz!111 old news.

NP : Down Rodeo.

[ghettoeddo]

:upset:

shut up i just saw it last night

[raYge]

It was dope hey? I think it's my favourite Bond...
Pwns the fvck out of brosnan

[bootyhunter]

so rage are playing coachella google is your friend

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

That's too good to beleive.

[bootyhunter]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1550424/20070122/rage_against_the_machine.jhtml

sorry about gay mtv link but it looks true

[Clunge]

YES.

YES.

C'mon, UK show please!

[2muchket!]

I'd give my right arm and leg to see them live. Just to see Morello and ZDLR in the flesh :D:D:D

[Lunch]

Good thing it's near me.

Oh, wait...

:(

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

YES.

YES.

C'mon, UK show please!

stfu, UK got the one-off Pink Floyd reunion. :mad:

[2muchket!]

Thats cos Bob Gandalf/Geldof came along and used is powers of being miserable twat to get 'em to play.

[Generic Joshman]

Please jesus, god, Allah, atman, shiva WHOEVER let them realize they should get back together and make another album!

[ghettoeddo]

woawoawoa RATM reunion for reall????

edit: OMG ITS TRUE!
coachella festivallllllll

[GenuineImitation]

I hope they decide to do a tour after that show. I would kill for tickets.

[sportsfan4427]

a tour would be so cool

[Stoo]

I would slaughter hundreds of people to see that show.

[lionelhutz88]

this really came out of nowhere...

[randomthought9]

That's gonna be so awesome, I want to go so bad, but man, ticket prices are gonna be soo expensive, and I have no money at all.

[Otherside]

I'm seeing them at Coachella(hopefully)

[ghettoeddo]

im buyin plane tickets to the festival.
for sure.

im so pumped.

[Bazarov]

Well they're playing at Coachella here in San Diego. But I don't really care, I hate every band at Coachella, but quite a bit of my friends are going to it.

[ghettoeddo]

oh its in SD?

man this concert is gonna be pricey

[Bazarov]

I don't know if Coachella is a San Diego thing or a traveling festival, but yeah it's 3 days long and I remember my friends that went to it last year payed like 200 bucks for it, also I think it was just for one day.

Edit - well I just went on the coachella message board and someone said it was 86 bucks per day. So I was wrong.

[Kyle]

I wonder if Zack can still cut it?

I'd go to a UK show.

[ghettoeddo]

its in indio, CA.

my friend says thats close to LA and as far as i know....there's only one festival date and that's the 27-29 of april

[Darkness]

I **** all over my house when I read this.

I'm just so happy.

[Retrovertigo]

hey maybe this means audioslave will dissolve

/crosses fingers

[Huber]

This is a huge surprise. Totally going to Coachella.

[ghettoeddo]

i hope audioslave does break up

[JTCP]

Dr. Jake Destructo "I hope they don't. Tom Morello could only be original for 3 albums, anything more from RATM would probably just be a reincarnation."

- Tom Morello could only be original for three albums? I take it you know Tom personally and this is something he told you? I didn't think so Dr. Dipsh*t. By the way, how many albums were you original for? Yeah....

pate "*3 notes.
And I don't mean that in a totally negative way. He's done a ton staying between the 5th and 7th frets."

- And I don't mean to be obvious, but your stupidity exceeds you. Awesome use of sarcasm you talentless dick. Now go practice your rock star moves in front of the mirror with your sh*tty fender squire strat and peavy bandit amp.

MetalOz "Zack is the only one that would benefit from a reunion. Audioslave are doing just fine."

- Youre right, within the current political climate, rage isnt needed at all. Read a F*ing news paper or turn on the t.v. once in awhile douche, by the way your ibanez and dean's suck huge dick, and we all know thats not yours.

PinkFreud "Soundgarden and Audioslave are both better than RATM ever was. Soundgarden by a lot, Audioslave by a little."

- I apologize World, not every person from Michigan has down-syndrome.
By the way with those writing prose you should apply for a job at Rolling Stone, you'd fit in perfectly genius.

repcak "RATM split up cause Zack de la Roch wanted to change their style towards hip hop, Morello more into Rock/Metal"

- No, rage split up because Renegades was released against Zach's wishes, He deemed the decision making process within the band a failure and since the inner workings of the band were failing he decided to throw the baby out with the bath water, so to speak.

PinkFreud "Audioslave's a fine pop-rock band if you can accept that. Not to mention that Chris Cornell is years more talented than Mr. "I can't rap OR sing." His lyrics weren't very good either."

-Again, apologies World. And to you Pink, such a renowned critic of others' work, what was your bands web address? Just wanted to see your lyrics and hear your singing since you seem to be so F***ing keen on the subject you talentless slack-jawed fag. By the way sh*t dick, audioslave is alt-rock.

Anglachel "They were born, lived, and died. To come back now would defy basic knowledge! >_> <_<
I hope they don't."

-The extent of your brain damage defies all knowledge you witless prick. Stay in Canada, grow out your mullet (AKA Canadian passport) and keep your mouth shut.

Apocalyptic Raids "I would kill to see RATM live."

-Someone has got the right idea.

Crickets On A Plane "I agree with you all the way. Bad lyrics, singer & rapper."

-Bad lyrics? I suppose to you any song that isn't about you sucking your boyfriend off and taking it in the *ss would be bad lyrics. I'm sorry RATM songs arent about your and your teenage girlfriend making a trip to abercrombe and fitch to fit in with the rest of your douche bag trust fund friends.
Bad singer and rapper? You're right, Cornell singing rage songs sounds much better. Please, what was your nomination for a better singer in RATM?
Go back to watching your f***ing American idol.

Mazeppa "They wouldn't inflict a reunion upon us would they?"

-You wouldn't inflict your stupi.....oh sh*t too late.

Apocalyptic Raids "For your information, I too strongly disagree, but I don't feel the need to tell PF to "fvck off out of the thread", as you so eloquently put it."

-Thats because he has BALLS.

rata "all great guitarists also have their down time. with morello, his time has come. i think. "

-Like you'd F***ing know? Two guitar lessons later and now
you're a "Great Guitarist"? Wow.

-Its simple you empty minded F***-tards.
Within the current political climate in the United States, RATM has never been needed more than right now. If you cant understand that then Im surprised you've figured out how to turn on your computer.
To everyone that thinks Zach is a shitty rapper, Im sorry what was your name? Who are you signed to? Who are your fans? When was your last show?
To everyone that thinks Zach's lyrics are sh*t, you probably dont understand them, try reading them first.
Zach's lyrics are about political injustice, they tell a story of an exploited and oppressed people (the indigenous people of southern Mexico) the tyrany forced upon other countries by the U.S. Government and the oppression of its own people.
Real American History. IE; everything we have as a nation we've stolen and murdered for such as the mistreatment and near extinction of an entire race of people like the Native Americans (yeah they were actually here first).
The fact that we've stolen half the country of Mexico and continue to exploit them. Americana is a F***ing Lie that they teach you in school.
Zach points out that we're not a nation of heroes like we think we are.

America needs a band like RATM to shake people out of their ignorant sleep and expose the truth behind lies told by the U.S. Government to its people who are already lulled to sleep by day time t.v. and Capitalism's ugly brother: consumerism.

RATM needs Americans to wakeup, see the truth and become actual citizens of this country instead of occupiers of its land.
RATM is the soundtrack to an American revolution that desperately needs recruits.
Without having a real effect on the listener or any change made in the mind of their fans, RATM mise just as well play matchbox 20 tunes.

[Huber]

Dude, you need to chill. Half of the things those people said you took way to seriously or simply took it the wrong way.

Just because they don't feel the same about RATMs politics as you or like them as much as you doesn't call for 876,456,324,647,239 iterations of the words "stupid" and "moron"

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Tom Morello could only be original for three albums? I take it you know Tom personally and this is something he told you? I didn't think so Dr. Dipsh*t. By the way, how many albums were you original for? Yeah....
Onoes, Ad Hominem itt.

PS: It wouldn't matter if I knew Tom or not. If he told me that he was original, I still wouldn't beleive him. He rocked on THREE albums and has became stagnant. You think Audioslave is something new? You think a cover album was groundbreaking?

Awesome use of sarcasm

This makes me laugh pretty hard.

Youre right, within the current political climate, rage isnt needed at all. Read a F*ing news paper or turn on the t.v. once in awhile douche, by the way your ibanez and dean's suck huge dick, and we all know thats not yours.

You do know that the Axis of Justice program that Morello is involved in is far more politically constructive than being a anarcho-commie "**** you I won't do what you tell me" mindset of a twelve year old right?

No, rage split up because Renegades was released against Zach's wishes, He deemed the decision making process within the band a failure and since the inner workings of the band were failing he decided to throw the baby out with the bath water, so to speak.

Hurrrr do you know Zack personally? I've heard like 12 variations of what really went down. It doens't even matter why they broke up, they did, bottom line.

Again, apologies World. And to you Pink, such a renowned critic of others' work, what was your bands web address? Just wanted to see your lyrics and hear your singing since you seem to be so F***ing keen on the subject you talentless slack-jawed fag. By the way sh*t dick, audioslave is alt-rock.

I'd like to ask the same of you. I'd make assumptions about your music, but that would make me look like a moron and you've already done that obviously, so why steal your thunder?

To everyone that thinks Zach is a shitty rapper, Im sorry what was your name? Who are you signed to? Who are your fans? When was your last show?

Hi my name is Britney Spears, my popularity and bank account eclipse Zack's ten fold. I've sold more albums than him. I am popular. This is a true gauge of my ability to assess other's music, trust my opinion bro.

[JTCP]

Onoes, Ad Hominem itt.

PS: It wouldn't matter if I knew Tom or not. If he told me that he was original, I still wouldn't believe him. He rocked on THREE albums and has became stagnant. You think Audioslave is something new? You think a cover album was groundbreaking?

Onoes, Ad Hominem itt. <--I'm sorry, I don't speak "RETARD".
I know, you wouldn't believe Tom because you are the all-seeing and all-knowing one written of by the prophets of old in days long forgotten, and your opinion supersedes those of mere mortals, and to you I bow great one.

Do I think Audioslave is new? Of course not, they already have released three albums and a live DVD. In terms of sound? Yeah. Outside of the fact that most of RATM is Audioslave and they still carry that distinct sound, I cant think of any other band besides RATM that sounds like them.
Can you Dr Dildo?
Oh let me guess, you had already beat Tom to the punch but he stole your sound.

In regards to the cover album Renegades being groundbreaking...and mind you that it wasn't like RATM went in the studio and recorded all of Renegades right after The Battle Of Los Angeles. A lot of the songs had actually been recorded here and there between/during different albums and tours

I will say that no better cover album comes to mind....but I'm sure you're feeling REALLY burned about this because to you a "groundbreaking" cover album is Guns n Roses "Spaghetti incident" and you didn't think it got the reviews you thought it deserved.

You do know that the Axis of Justice program that Morello is involved in is far more politically constructive than being a anarcho-commie "**** you I won't do what you tell me" mindset of a twelve year old right?

I'm sorry if all that your brain could comprehend out of 3 RATM albums was
"f*ck you I wont do what you tell me." Maybe you've only heard one song though. In that case, do RATM and all of its real fans a favor and quit listening.
Go back to playing world of warcraft with Spaghetti-O's dried around your mouth down in your mom's basement while you drool all over yourself.
P.s. Stay away from the twelve year olds.

Hurrrr do you know Zack personally? I've heard like 12 variations of what really went down. It doesn't even matter why they broke up, they did, bottom line.

Hurrr <---Ill pretend you can type the word "How".
No, I actually don't know Zach personally, but then again for the record,
I don't ever remember stating that I did Detective Dipsh*t.
12 variations huh? Well the way I found out wasn't by asking 12 different people. I used this thing called the internet, you might of heard of it, anyway, one day I decided to use a search engine called "google" (www.google.com)and look for anything I could find in regards to the official reason for RATM's breakup and I stumbled upon Zach de la Rocha's official response about the breakup. And if it "doesn't even matter" why bother asking?

I'd like to ask the same of you. I'd make assumptions about your music, but that would make me look like a moron and you've already done that obviously, so why steal your thunder?

I think you meant to leave that last little bit for Pink Freud.
I wasn't making ridiculous assumptions/comments about RATM's music boss.
I assume reading and comprehension isn't a strong point with the "Destructo-Family". My advice, stop inbreeding.

Hi my name is Britney Spears, my popularity and bank account eclipse Zack's ten fold. I've sold more albums than him. I am popular. This is a true gauge of my ability to assess other's music, trust my opinion bro.

Well Britney, my point wasn't that the amount of money that you make or the number of albums that you sell or your popularity determine your ability to make ridiculous assumptions and state unfounded opinions about other's music, but it sure is easy to talk a bunch of sh*t about a band when you've never learned an instrument, written some songs, joined a band and performed in front more people than just mommy and daddy.
-I'd prefer to hear an opinion about someone who actually "Knows" about music then some casual listening d*ckhead.

[Huber]

Dr. Jake Destructo "I hope they don't. Tom Morello could only be original for 3 albums, anything more from RATM would probably just be a reincarnation."

- Tom Morello could only be original for three albums? I take it you know Tom personally and this is something he told you? I didn't think so Dr. Dipsh*t. By the way, how many albums were you original for? Yeah....


What he said has nothing to do with knowing Tom Morello. Tom Morello's guitar playing was good and fine and pretty darn unique while he was with RATM but then afterward his guitar playing didn't jump out as phenominally original like it did before.

If you can' realize that than you are delusional.

pate "*3 notes.
And I don't mean that in a totally negative way. He's done a ton staying between the 5th and 7th frets."

- And I don't mean to be obvious, but your stupidity exceeds you. Awesome use of sarcasm you talentless dick. Now go practice your rock star moves in front of the mirror with your sh*tty fender squire strat and peavy bandit amp.

What he said wasn't an insult. He even clearly said "I don't mean that in a totally negative way". He's praising Tom for using primarily the same few frets to make some great music.

MetalOz "Zack is the only one that would benefit from a reunion. Audioslave are doing just fine."

- Youre right, within the current political climate, rage isnt needed at all. Read a F*ing news paper or turn on the t.v. once in awhile douche, by the way your ibanez and dean's suck huge dick, and we all know thats not yours.

Way to make a stab at his guitars to try and win an argument. You failed!

When did he ever say RATM wasn't needed? Can you read? His post had nothing to do with that. He was trying to say that Tom Brad and Tim are fine without Audioslave as they are fairly successful in Audioslave, where as Zack isn't doing much at all right now and a RATM reunion would be great for him.

PinkFreud "Soundgarden and Audioslave are both better than RATM ever was. Soundgarden by a lot, Audioslave by a little."

- I apologize World, not every person from Michigan has down-syndrome.
By the way with those writing prose you should apply for a job at Rolling Stone, you'd fit in perfectly genius.

While I too disagree with him, it shouldn't be a sin to think a band can be better than another.

PinkFreud "Audioslave's a fine pop-rock band if you can accept that. Not to mention that Chris Cornell is years more talented than Mr. "I can't rap OR sing." His lyrics weren't very good either."

-Again, apologies World. And to you Pink, such a renowned critic of others' work, what was your bands web address? Just wanted to see your lyrics and hear your singing since you seem to be so F***ing keen on the subject you talentless slack-jawed fag. By the way sh*t dick, audioslave is alt-rock.

Whether or not Pinkfreud has any kind of music career has nothing to do with the fact that he is right. When you look at the whole spectrum of rappers Zack ranks pretty low. His lyrics were effective but they weren't anything brilliant. If he had a music career or not doesn't change this at all.

Anglachel "They were born, lived, and died. To come back now would defy basic knowledge! >_> <_<
I hope they don't."

-The extent of your brain damage defies all knowledge you witless prick. Stay in Canada, grow out your mullet (AKA Canadian passport) and keep your mouth shut.

Ahhhh, a stab at Canadians. You truly are the smartest man alive. Really. If you get that ticked when someone rags on a favorite band of yours you really need a reality check.

Crickets On A Plane "I agree with you all the way. Bad lyrics, singer & rapper."

-Bad lyrics? I suppose to you any song that isn't about you sucking your boyfriend off and taking it in the *ss would be bad lyrics. I'm sorry RATM songs arent about your and your teenage girlfriend making a trip to abercrombe and fitch to fit in with the rest of your douche bag trust fund friends.
Bad singer and rapper? You're right, Cornell singing rage songs sounds much better. Please, what was your nomination for a better singer in RATM?
Go back to watching your f***ing American idol.

You just judged him so much without any ways of justification at all. I have reason to believe he (Charming) does not like the type of lyrics you're insisting at all.

Apocalyptic Raids "For your information, I too strongly disagree, but I don't feel the need to tell PF to "fvck off out of the thread", as you so eloquently put it."

-Thats because he has BALLS.

No, it's actually because he realizes that it's not the end of the world if someone doesn't agree with him on something like RATM. You however, do for some reason.

rata "all great guitarists also have their down time. with morello, his time has come. i think. "

-Like you'd F***ing know? Two guitar lessons later and now
you're a "Great Guitarist"? Wow.

It's not stupid to think that every guitar player has a down time to take some time off from being a full time rock star. You need to stop thinking that when someone makes a prediction or holds an opinion that they also think of themselves as having some huge astrnomical career in whatever it is it concerns. It's a stupid way to try and prove someone wrong. Why? Because it doesn't prove anything.

-Its simple you empty minded F***-tards.
Within the current political climate in the United States, RATM has never been needed more than right now. If you cant understand that then Im surprised you've figured out how to turn on your computer.
To everyone that thinks Zach is a poopty rapper, Im sorry what was your name? Who are you signed to? Who are your fans? When was your last show?
To everyone that thinks Zach's lyrics are sh*t, you probably dont understand them, try reading them first.
Zach's lyrics are about political injustice, they tell a story of an exploited and oppressed people (the indigenous people of southern Mexico) the tyrany forced upon other countries by the U.S. Government and the oppression of its own people.
Real American History. IE; everything we have as a nation we've stolen and murdered for such as the mistreatment and near extinction of an entire race of people like the Native Americans (yeah they were actually here first).
The fact that we've stolen half the country of Mexico and continue to exploit them. Americana is a F***ing Lie that they teach you in school.
Zach points out that we're not a nation of heroes like we think we are.

America needs a band like RATM to shake people out of their ignorant sleep and expose the truth behind lies told by the U.S. Government to its people who are already lulled to sleep by day time t.v. and Capitalism's ugly brother: consumerism.

RATM needs Americans to wakeup, see the truth and become actual citizens of this country instead of occupiers of its land.
RATM is the soundtrack to an American revolution that desperately needs recruits.
Without having a real effect on the listener or any change made in the mind of their fans, RATM mise just as well play matchbox 20 tunes.

Cry me a river dude. Just because not everyone feels oh-so-passionately about RATMs politcs, and existence for that matter, doesn't mean were any lesser than you. Get a reality check and realize a RATM reunion isn't on the top of everyone's "Best thing that could ever happen" list.

I love RATM and I can't wait to see them at Coachella. You however, are a ****.

[2muchket!]

Theres always one douche bag giving fans a bad name.

As for Morello with the 5th and 7th fret thing, hes heavily inspired by Hendrix and hence what is known as the Hendrix chord (I'm not a guitarist but a mate was telling me) lies between the 5th and 7th I believe.

[Darkness]

He really should be reported and banned for that, the insults were poor and un-called for.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

This has to be one of the more ironic episodes ever. Calling 'Latin' retarded, and then going on to make a rant proving what I was saying from the get-go.

Since you obviously have absolutely no concept of civilized argument, I'll teach you a lesson.

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the person", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument by attacking or appealing to the person making the argument, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument.

In essence, you have no basis for your argument, but you do a pretty good job at attacking those who oppose you. Congratulations.

And if you think that RATM had groundbreaking beliefs, go read about Marx. Rage's thoughts are nearly 200 years outdated. It's not like RATM was a major eye-opener to society. On top of that, you do realize that there has been a mainstream influx of other rock acts pushing the same agenda as Rage?

Go listen to some Green Day if you think you're missing out on the faux-anarchy bandwagon. RATM is over.

And just for the record: I'm going to be recording a demo this Sunday, you should give me your email so I can send it to you. Or maybe you can wait until I graduate with my degrees in music and business so I can give you an internship at my record label so you can perhaps learn a little bit about how to work in a civilized world rather than just making random retorts at anyone who displays any ounce of opposition towards you. Ya dig?

[JTCP]

This has to be one of the more ironic episodes ever. Calling 'Latin' retarded, and then going on to make a rant proving what I was saying from the get-go.

Since you obviously have absolutely no concept of civilized argument, I'll teach you a lesson.

Latin=Dead Language. I like the fact that you think civilized arguments start out with Latin. Although points scored by you for your attempt to come across as a smug pseudo-intellectual yuppy. P.S. Try learning a language that actually has some practicality to it, as in something thats still spoken fluently by a current civilization. You do seem to speak bullsh*t fluently though.

In essence, you have no basis for your argument, but you do a pretty good job at attacking those who oppose you. Congratulations.

Thanks. You don't have to be such a sore loser though.

And if you think that RATM had groundbreaking beliefs, go read about Marx. Rage's thoughts are nearly 200 years outdated. It's not like RATM was a major eye-opener to society. On top of that, you do realize that there has been a mainstream influx of other rock acts pushing the same agenda as Rage?

RATM wasn't a major eye opener to society? Right, everyone already was aware of the mistreatment of Leonard Peltier and Muhmia, or maybe it was just you but somehow I doubt that, since you were probably too busy collecting power rangers at that time to give a ****.
Everyone knows about Marx genius. Im sure any real rage fans knows that its more like Noam Chomsky then it is Marx.
A Flux of mainstream rock acts pushing the same agenda?
Name a few, please. And if all possible name some that have had as much influence politically.

Go listen to some Green Day if you think you're missing out on the faux-anarchy bandwagon. RATM is over.

If you think RATM is faux-anarchy, you're a f*cking moron, I really cant put it any simpler than that. RATM is over? I'm sure you have authority to say that.

And just for the record: I'm going to be recording a demo this Sunday, you should give me your email so I can send it to you. Or maybe you can wait until I graduate with my degrees in music and business so I can give you an internship at my record label so you can perhaps learn a little bit about how to work in a civilized world rather than just making random retorts at anyone who displays any ounce of opposition towards you. Ya dig?

Recording a demo this Sunday? Thats great, you'll probably want to keep the volume down in your apartment so you don't disturb your neighbors.
Give you my email so you can send it to me? Why not post it so everyone can hear your genius? If you're too afraid to do that Ill give you an email address.
I will be waiting Sunday to hear your demo and will be more than happy to give you my honest and professional opinion of the song(s) and the recording.
Music degrees? Great you've been taught the "Picardy 3rd", Now your on your way to conquering the world. Record label? Cant wait to see that happen.

P.S. Music talent cant be purchased at a college like everything else you've attained in life, its something you either have or don't. Cant wait til Sunday to see what you've got.
By the way what was your instrument?

To all other response other than Destructo's...
Start you using your mind and come up with your own original opinions about things. Just because Dr Destruct-o-c*ck says it, doest mean its the gospel F***ing truth.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Latin=Dead Language. I like the fact that you think civilized arguments start out with Latin. Although points scored by you for your attempt to come across as a smug pseudo-intellectual yuppy. P.S. Try learning a language that actually has some practicality to it, as in something thats still spoken fluently by a current civilization. You do seem to speak bullsh*t fluently though.

What, you want Layman's terms? Okay. Notice how you keep name calling and taking empty, meaningless potshots? What does that accomplish? Does it help your argument? No. Then why do it? I don't know, you tell me.

RATM wasn't a major eye opener to society? Right, everyone already was aware of the mistreatment of Leonard Peltier and Muhmia, or maybe it was just you but somehow I doubt that, since you were probably too busy collecting power rangers at that time to give a ****.
Everyone knows about Marx genius. Im sure any real rage fans knows that its more like Noam Chomsky then it is Marx.
A Flux of mainstream rock acts pushing the same agenda?
Name a few, please. And if all possible name some that have had as much influence politically.

System of a Down have had a much larger political impact than RATM. Google the Armenian Genocide. Serj and Morello are both major cogs in the workings of the Axis of Justice as well, proof that they're fighting the same fight. If we're talking about political awareness and influence, let's take a look at Bono of U2. I doubt any one musician has done more on the macro-political scale than this man.

And as far as my music goes, I'm a major whore when it comes to my own music. Trust me.

Dr Destruct-o-****

This was witty.

[Darkness]

Dr Destruct-o-c*ck

That was probably the worst ever. :lol: You're 12, aren't you?


Jake, don't give him the satisfaction of knowing someones reading his posts. I have yet to read a whole one.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Yeah, you're probably right. I feel like I should give something back though, I mean the poor guy is trying to hard.

[Darkness]

Yeah, you're probably right. I feel like I should give something back though, I mean the poor guy is trying to hard.

You're right. Carry on. The poor chap needs something for his effort. He probably can't understand half the words you're using, though.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Anyhow, is RATM's live DVD worth getting? It's been like the second item I would have bought on many album runs, but I've never actually gotten around to making the purchase..

[2muchket!]

Anyhow, is RATM's live DVD worth getting? It's been like the second item I would have bought on many album runs, but I've never actually gotten around to making the purchase..

I'd say so. Altho the bits with Cypress Hill are a bit weak the extras like them playing outside a democrats convention and some of the alternate videos made it a good buy in my humble opinion. Timmy C's backing vocals are a bit rough in places tho'.

[Darkness]

Anyhow, is RATM's live DVD worth getting? It's been like the second item I would have bought on many album runs, but I've never actually gotten around to making the purchase..

All 3 are pretty good actually. I have them all. Just get the first and last one though, Mexico citys a great performance and all, but everything in it is done in GOA plus that DVD has more extras.

[ghettoeddo]

so its gonna cost me around $600 to see these guys...should i do it? :\

[Darkness]

Yes.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

No. Chances are the vantage point you could get from a bootleg will be better than that you'd get at the venue. I know it's not exactly the same, but $600 is a lot of cash man. Especially a college student, what're you thinking?

[ghettoeddo]

i know...but still.

im totally gay for live experiences.

im seeing G3, B3, allan holdsworth, blackfield, eric clapton and the who all this semester, so i really doubt ill have funds to do this, but AAHHH

[TojesDolan]

I could go see Deftones, Roger Waters, HORSE the band and bands alike but my funds would suffer and I need to eat a least two meals a day.

[ghettoeddo]

i guess im gonna have to pass.

god dammit.

[Darkness]

But this is the show of a life time... this may be the last show ever for these guys.

[ghettoeddo]

dont make it any harder for me man
i know it'll probably be their last show EVER

[Darkness]

Not to mention the crowds will be insane. I bet Zack will have so much energy on stage too. And Morellos left leg will be thumping away during the main riff to Know Your Enemy for the first time in 7 years!

[ghettoeddo]

i like take the power back

and im not comin back here cuz i might unwisely change my mind :(

[Huber]

I read somewhere, I think Ultimate-guitar, that RATM might be planning more dates after Coachella. I think it was just Europe spoke of though. But still that means there's hope!

[JTCP]

What, you want Layman's terms? Okay. Notice how you keep name calling and taking empty, meaningless potshots? What does that accomplish? Does it help your argument? No. Then why do it? I don't know, you tell me.

Do pot shots help my argument? Yes. Not only in each response do I prove you completely wrong without any shadow of doubt (Which is why you never have a rebuttal to any of my responses to your asinine comments) I also like to throw in potshots because I cant stand your smug, talk-down-to-you, pseudo-intellectual, "I-know-a-Latin-phrase-you-don't" d*ickhead elitist attitude. Now you know why. I mean really, what was the whole latin thing of yours trying to prove? What, do you think you're the "Will Hunting" of the internet?
P.S. An associates community college degree in music and business doesn't warrant you the right to talk down everyone the way you like.

System of a Down have had a much larger political impact than RATM.

Based on what? Your opinion?

Google the Armenian Genocide. Serj and Morello are both major cogs in the workings of the Axis of Justice as well, proof that they're fighting the same fight.

I wouldn't so much say that they're fighting the same fight as much as they're just two people part of the same politically broad activist organization.
Two minutes of browsing the site you recommended would show you that Serj (being an Armenian) has a greater interest in helping his country of origin, while Morello seems more interested with more local political protests and globalization. Rage itself of course (or more prominently Zach de la Rocha) was/is more interested in the U.S. Latin American foreign policy, The Mexican front (NAFTA) as well as the murder and exploitation of its own people by the U.S.

If we're talking about political awareness and influence, let's take a look at Bono of U2.

We're not.

And as far as my music goes, I'm a major whore when it comes to my own music. Trust me.

Cant wait to hear it Sunday.

This was witty.

"Destruct-O-c*ck" Thanks, I thought you'd get a kick out of that in an elementary school style insult that I was sure you'd relate with based on your past posts.

P.S. Good RATM Live shows to d/l or buy if possible are
Battle for Mexico City (flawless show and an especially powerful performance considering the significance of the country their playing in.)
Also included is a very good back story for the "layman" on the significance and meaning of the RATM songs.

2000 Democratic National Convention ( I found this one on a torrent site, it cant really be obtained another way) Rage rocking out in full effect right in front of the people they most want to send their message to.
Damn awesome.

P.S.S If anyone finds a good quality video torrent of the Rage performance at the upcoming, I-not-paying-$600-to-see, Coachella Festival, they should post its link. I'll keep my eyes peeled for it.

[Huber]

Do pot shots help my argument? Yes. Not only in each response do I prove you completely wrong without any shadow of doubt (Which is why you never have a rebuttal to any of my responses to your asinine comments) I also like to throw in potshots because I cant stand your smug, talk-down-to-you, pseudo-intellectual, "I-know-a-Latin-phrase-you-don't" d*ickhead elitist attitude. Now you know why. I mean really, what was the whole latin thing of yours trying to prove? What, do you think you're the "Will Hunting" of the internet?
P.S. An associates community college degree in music and business doesn't warrant you the right to talk down everyone the way you like.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You are seriously so delusional. You haven't proved a single thing in any of your posts. Pot shots do not help arguments, rather they just make you look more like an idiot. Pot shots are what people say when they don't have anything relevant to say.

[JTCP]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You are seriously so delusional. You haven't proved a single thing in any of your posts. Pot shots do not help arguments, rather they just make you look more like an idiot. Pot shots are what people say when they don't have anything relevant to say.

I haven't proved a single thing? Guess its you thats delusional, or maybe you've just got your head too far up Jake's *ss to read and understand what Ive posted. Thats the only thing I can assume about you when you defend someone who's been blatantly wrong about almost everything he's said.

[Huber]

I haven't proved a single thing? Guess its you thats delusional, or maybe you've just got your head too far up Jake's *ss to read and understand what Ive posted. Thats the only thing I can assume about you when you defend someone who's been blatantly wrong about almost everything he's said.

How about instead of just saying you've proved anything, how about you actually give examples and PROVE it.

I think this will be my last post to you. You're a lost cause. It was a waste.

[Grumma]

Such angry people on this board

[livefastdieyoung]

so its gonna cost me around $600 to see these guys...should i do it? :\

600...what the ****...

I'd never pay that much money to go to a concert. Never. :)

[Clunge]

Such angry/ people on this board
*lovely.

[mick7]

I hope they get back together they we're one of my fave bands growing up.

[livefastdieyoung]

I hope they get back together they we're one of my fave bands growing up.

Yeah.

But i think it's a pretty small chance of them getting back together...

[purplefeet]

If I can find someone to go with me, Ill go to the Coachella show. Its a mission, and would probably run me about 1000 bucks to get there, accomodations, food, tickets, etc. So, Im down to do it (cause it would be a good time) but we'll see if anyone is up for it.

[SailAway]

All three days of coachella look awesome, wish I could go.

[sr800bkBassist]

I don't know if Coachella is a San Diego thing or a traveling festival, but yeah it's 3 days long and I remember my friends that went to it last year payed like 200 bucks for it, also I think it was just for one day.

Edit - well I just went on the coachella message board and someone said it was 86 bucks per day. So I was wrong.

it's not in SD. it's 1-2 hours northeast though. really close. like between here (i'm from SD too) and LA, and a little east. Palm Springs would be the closest more widely known area to it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Are you going?

[sr800bkBassist]

yeah but only one the first day of the festival for Jesus and Mary Chain, Sonic Youth, Interpol, Faithless, DJ Shadow, Silversun Pickups, Tokyo Police Club, Tilly and the Wall, Brazillian Girls, Bjork, and maybe Rufus Wainwright. day 3 sold out.

[mands]

Man I wish I could go. All three days look really good. It sucks that day three is already sold out though.

[Stoo]

Can't you buy weekend tickets? Most people that go to British festivals go for the whole weekend. Although, if I got the opportunity to pick what days to go to Coachella I'd be like Sunday obv, the rest sucks balls. :)

[sr800bkBassist]

Can't you buy weekend tickets? Most people that go to British festivals go for the whole weekend. Although, if I got the opportunity to pick what days to go to Coachella I'd be like Sunday obv, the rest sucks balls. :)
yeah you can buy tickets for all three days. if you want sunday only, you're screwed. it sold out. but you can still go on sunday if you buy the 3-day pass.

have you heard most of the other bands? they pretty much have bands of every genre evenly split between every day. so for example, for every electronic group that one day has, the others have just as many. same goes for the other genres there. so i don't really see how one could be seen as so unbelievably amazing yet thhe other ones so bad. i can see a preference of one over others, but the styles between days are so balanced that it's nearly impossible to have such a sharp contrast.

[Eliminator]

oh man friday looks sweet

[Yield]

I wish I could go and see this. But California is to far away for a kid who can't drive. Damn my age!

I hope someone records it.

[sr800bkBassist]

I wish I could go and see this. But California is to far away for a kid who can't drive. Damn my age!

I hope someone records it.

greyhounds are cheap. i don't know how far away you live, but chances are, a greyhound ticket would cost less than the gas you'd have to pay for if you drove.

i can't drive, but i have wide options. i have friends who drive, and because of this i've gotten a few offers for giving me rides, without my asking :cool:. ask your friends. i know so many people who are going, you might know a lot too, don't let your chance slip! i know i have at least 30 friends going, and i even know some of my teachers are going :lol:.

[Yield]

I live on the east coast. So about as far away from California without

Leaving the nation
Excluding Alaska and Hawaii

[Stoo]

yeah you can buy tickets for all three days. if you want sunday only, you're screwed. it sold out. but you can still go on sunday if you buy the 3-day pass.

have you heard most of the other bands? they pretty much have bands of every genre evenly split between every day. so for example, for every electronic group that one day has, the others have just as many. same goes for the other genres there. so i don't really see how one could be seen as so unbelievably amazing yet thhe other ones so bad. i can see a preference of one over others, but the styles between days are so balanced that it's nearly impossible to have such a sharp contrast.

Yeah, and I don't like Coachella as a festival. But I would go the whole weekend just to see RATM.

[2muchket!]

^ I agree with this. Anyone see th interview that Morello gaave to MTV. He said he wants to reform RATM as he hates America ever since they broke.



.......that's why he hasn't toured with audiosalve then hmmmmmmmmm

[niobium]

posting in a ratm reunion thread

i wonder what the tracklist will be like

[Stoo]

only the best set of songs ever. \m/

[Chrysostom]

2007 seems to be the 'Year of the Reunion': Led Zep, The Police, RATM...pretty sure there's a couple of others too. What's up with that?

[Mars Volta]

-Its simple you empty minded F***-tards.
Within the current political climate in the United States, RATM has never been needed more than right now. If you cant understand that then Im surprised you've figured out how to turn on your computer.
To everyone that thinks Zach is a poopty rapper, Im sorry what was your name? Who are you signed to? Who are your fans? When was your last show?
To everyone that thinks Zach's lyrics are sh*t, you probably dont understand them, try reading them first.
Zach's lyrics are about political injustice, they tell a story of an exploited and oppressed people (the indigenous people of southern Mexico) the tyrany forced upon other countries by the U.S. Government and the oppression of its own people.
Real American History. IE; everything we have as a nation we've stolen and murdered for such as the mistreatment and near extinction of an entire race of people like the Native Americans (yeah they were actually here first).
The fact that we've stolen half the country of Mexico and continue to exploit them. Americana is a F***ing Lie that they teach you in school.
Zach points out that we're not a nation of heroes like we think we are.

America needs a band like RATM to shake people out of their ignorant sleep and expose the truth behind lies told by the U.S. Government to its people who are already lulled to sleep by day time t.v. and Capitalism's ugly brother: consumerism.

RATM needs Americans to wakeup, see the truth and become actual citizens of this country instead of occupiers of its land.
RATM is the soundtrack to an American revolution that desperately needs recruits.
Without having a real effect on the listener or any change made in the mind of their fans, RATM mise just as well play matchbox 20 tunes.

Wow.... erm... they're just a band, as much as I love their music, nothing's going to change just because RATM came back and sang about how they want it to change for one show.
You seem like you're a bit psychotic.

*awaits being called a moron or 'Dr. Dildo' because I have a different opinion than you*

[niobium]

2007 seems to be the 'Year of the Reunion': Led Zep, The Police, RATM...pretty sure there's a couple of others too. What's up with that?zep aren't reuniting

[Chrysostom]

zep aren't reuniting

Oh. Ah well.

[sr800bkBassist]

2007 seems to be the 'Year of the Reunion': Led Zep, The Police, RATM...pretty sure there's a couple of others too. What's up with that?

as well as The Jesus & Mary Chain and The Happy Mondays.

[Lunch]

And Dispatch.