New Death Metal album

[experi_metal]

that's right, we're back with a new release for all you diehard fans!

http://www.soundclick.com/metalliskeselhives

Track List as follows:

Intro
Pay For Your Sins
The Dragon's Mane
Avenge The Death
Bringer Of Death
Demon Of The Fall (Opeth Cover)

[experi_metal]

songs from G-Clad split (3 Floors Down) have also been added.

G-Clad
http://www.soundclick.com/gclad

Sewerpipe Bonger Pt 1
Holy Whore
G-Clad
Iraq, You Break
Usawma Beer Garden
A Bullet In The Head Is Worth Two In Bush
Taliban, Turban, Radioban
Terrorism Vs Errorism, The War For Oil
Track 9-11
Speak English Or Die
Sewerpipe Bonger Pt 2/Bombin' The U.S. Of A.

Metallisk Esel Hives
http://www.soundclick.com/metalliskeselhives

Pentagonal Scriptures Of Ishtar
Oil Merchant Of The Sandy Crest
Rottin' Upon Crucifiction

also up, our myspace
http://www.myspace.com/metalliskeselhives

edit:
G-Clad myspace
http://www.myspace.com/gclad

[experi_metal]

*bump* for myspace edit :)

[Dr Nihil]

Hmm...okay, right. I really don't get it. I can't understand the vocals (what I do hear sounds like a bubbly, grunty, unintelligible mess) and the rest is just...so distorted, the only "beat" I can hear is coming from cymbals. The stuff from G-Clad is, well, um...what's a constructive way to critique this? I don't even know.

I'm all for some good Metal, but this? There are diehard fans of this...stuff? Wait, that's a joke--they're dead, right? Oh, I get it! Diehard!

[Swill_Merchant]

True Black Metal from the deepest frost dwelling
Why this name?
A battle axe death fight
Do you play live?
Live is the weakness of the mortals
How, do you think, does the internet (or mp3) change the music industry?
Music is not an industry, music is a release of the demons that lurk through the shadows of the abyss
Would you sign a record contract with a major label?
Music is not an industry, music is a release of the demons that lurk through the shadows of the abyss
Band History:
The band began when the crucifiction of Christ became a blind reality to the ones stricken with the plague of a thousand maggots.
Your influences?
The monsters of the deep frost
Favorite spot?
City of the frozen caves
Equipment used:
Severed Limbs, Shattered Skulls & The Screams Of 1000 Virgins
Anything else...?
All Vox laid down (attempted) were über dark and caused every mic to wither away into the abyss, so... no Vox for now

^^^^^^^^^^
Your band.



In all seriousness, is this a joke? Please tell me. I have heard some pretty bad tone and some even worse playing, but yours is up in my top ten. I could listen maybe 30 seconds into it before I got annoyed AND I WORK IN A GUITAR SHOP.

You guys need to do one of two things, quit or get better. Getting better meaning getting better people to play or doing some better recording. Oh, do something with the vocalist. Is sounded like he was hauking up a ball of snot.

[experi_metal]

Obviously neither of you know anything about death metal, let alone are fans of it, so why bother even coming into this thread?

That's all I have to say.

[Dr Nihil]

I am a fan of good Death Metal. This isn't good Death Metal, even by standards of bad Death Metal. If you want people to take your music seriously, progress both as a musician and as a professional; get better equipment, refine your style. Right now, from the quality to the style, it simply isn't good.

Curious how you call it Death Metal here, yet on your MySpace page it's listed as Black Metal? Why so many labels?

[experi_metal]

The fact that the band progressed, maybe? It also says that All Vox laid down (attempted) were über dark and caused every mic to wither away into the abyss, so... no Vox for now.

Now if you can't tell that since that page was made that there's been alot of other **** happen without the page being changed, then...

[sliver]

I agree with the other two guys in this thread...

Your tone is HORRIBLE probably one of the worst tones I have ever heard. The guitar is pretty sloppy for death metal playing. The singer is probably the worst metal singer I have ever heard :lol: his voice is weak as hell.

If you guys are young (16-18) then I think it is a really good attempt and you should stick with it because you will get better with time and the playing is reasonably good for your age. If however you are older and have been doing this for a while then it seems like you're wasting if you're trying to make it somewhere with this.

Sorry just being honest.

[Swill_Merchant]

The fact that the band progressed, maybe? It also says that All Vox laid down (attempted) were über dark and caused every mic to wither away into the abyss, so... no Vox for now.

Now if you can't tell that since that page was made that there's been alot of other **** happen without the page being changed, then...

Ok first what does the vocal part mean?? Come on, at least write something sane or thruthful.

As for the rest............ hmmmmmm. You guys posted that you have "All hatred of America" and you mock the falling of the twin towers.

YOU DON"T F(U)CKING LIVE HERE. You guys are a bunch of prissy BIIITCH AZZ DOUCHEBAGS. To make fun of such a horrific event and expect good results. Also, your G-Clad thing still ****ing sucked. Really, I am a fan of good music, and I am definetly not a fan of yours.

All in all, if you were 50% better you would suck.
Thumbs down d-bags

[experi_metal]

your towers got owned, not mine :wave:

[Swill_Merchant]

your towers got owned, not mine :wave:


True, I guess the only thing coming out of Australia is sh!tty death metal bands.

[experi_metal]

oh the wit! atleast we're not shooting down allied planes and grenading our own tents :cool:

[Dr Nihil]

The fact that the band progressed, maybe? It also says that All Vox laid down (attempted) were über dark and caused every mic to wither away into the abyss, so... no Vox for now.

Now if you can't tell that since that page was made that there's been alot of other **** happen without the page being changed, then...

Then...what? What does that have to do with anything? I listened to everything you posted. My opinion stands: it sucks and needs serious improvement. My negative criticism does not stem from genre bias.

Aside from the music, your obvious ignorance is a major turn off. If it didn't sound so bad you'd probably find a nice following amongst the other anti-Americans in this world.

[experi_metal]

And which ignorance be that, oh wise one.

[MatthewMeredith]

Alright, so I listen to a lot of death/black metal, and I'm here to give you a bit of serious advice.

Mix your drums so that the snare comes out more. All I can hear is your china (btw, I only listened to The Dragon's Mane).

Tell your vocalist to actually use air support to get some volume. It sounds like he's whisper/growling and then just cranking the mic up.

Tell your guitarist to tune his guitar. The little break sounded terrible.

Hope this helps!

[experi_metal]

Alright, so I listen to a lot of death/black metal, and I'm here to give you a bit of serious advice.

Mix your drums so that the snare comes out more. All I can hear is your china (btw, I only listened to The Dragon's Mane).

Tell your vocalist to actually use air support to get some volume. It sounds like he's whisper/growling and then just cranking the mic up.

Tell your guitarist to tune his guitar. The little break sounded terrible.

Hope this helps!

Finally, someone with some sense! I applaud you kind Sir. :chug:

Drums have always been a problem for us, the mix just never EVER seems to come out right, so we're going to put some serious work into the next one to perfect it.

The thing with the guitar in the break is that the guitar used has a warped next and the high e is really messed up.

Being the bassist and vocalist, I will take your advice though on the air support :wave:

[jew_grinder]

You sick mother ****ers! Do you know how many innocent lives were lost from that tragedy??? I hope you all rot in hell with your muslim scumbag mates, you're nothing but a piece of **** trying to play on people's emotions!

DIE

[Swill_Merchant]

You sick mother ****ers! Do you know how many innocent lives were lost from that tragedy??? I hope you all rot in hell with your muslim scumbag mates, you're nothing but a piece of **** trying to play on people's emotions!

DIE


Amen Brother.

[Angelicrock]

It sucked. I cant take a band seriously when they have retarded song titles. Maybe take things serious before you try to make music. It was a nice try though, better luck next time.

[experi_metal]

You fückwits think you're the innocent ones in all of this? You think they just sat around reading their bibles thinking, OH WTF, LETS KICK THE FüCK OUT OF AMERICA!

You stupid fückwits are blinded by propaganda, open your eyes

[Swill_Merchant]

You fückwits think you're the innocent ones in all of this? You think they just sat around reading their bibles thinking, OH WTF, LETS KICK THE FüCK OUT OF AMERICA!

You stupid fückwits are blinded by propaganda, open your eyes

Yep, you are pretty damn stupid. They don't read the bible, Islam reads the Quran. We are innocent in all of this. What propoganda? Name some propoganda. I don't even think you know what you are talking about. If you did you wouldn't even say or post half the things you do. You are just one of those whiny azz prissy biatches doing nothing but complaining.

Also, they didn't kick the **** out of America.

[Loyton]

You fückwits think you're the innocent ones in all of this? You think they just sat around reading their bibles thinking, OH WTF, LETS KICK THE FüCK OUT OF AMERICA!



Also, they didn't kick the **** out of America. Those Jawas are getting their azzes handed to them now.

Lmao. Retard boxing match.

[Dr Nihil]

You fückwits think you're the innocent ones in all of this? You think they just sat around reading their bibles thinking, OH WTF, LETS KICK THE FüCK OUT OF AMERICA!

You stupid fückwits are blinded by propaganda, open your eyes

Yeah, I think we stole their goats. That was a bad idea.

[experi_metal]

Yep, you are pretty damn stupid. They don't read the bible, Islam reads the Quran. We are innocent in all of this. What propoganda? Name some propoganda. I don't even think you know what you are talking about. If you did you wouldn't even say or post half the things you do. You are just one of those whiny azz prissy biatches doing nothing but complaining.

Also, they didn't kick the **** out of America. Those Jawas are getting their azzes handed to them now.

HAHAHAHA, America has killed more of their own than that of the enemy. For the "greatest country in the world", you're pretty fücking hopeless... shooting down your own, as well as allied, aircraft, grenading your own tents... how impotent can a nation really get?

And how do you justify the war? O NOSE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!! Go the fück to war with North Korea then if you're afraid of WMDs! Or don't they have enough oil there to justify going to war with?

[killfile]

I remember hearing you a while before. I genuinely think you guys and your music is awesome, and if I was in newcastle and not SA, I'd like to have a beer with you and your 'muslim scumbag mates'.

[Huber]

I couldn't listen to a whole song. The production/tone/vocals (no projection) made me turn it off.

Dude, your politics are a little off man. The majority of the USA is on your side when it comes to the war and leaders of our country.

[Swill_Merchant]

HAHAHAHA, America has killed more of their own than that of the enemy. For the "greatest country in the world", you're pretty fücking hopeless... shooting down your own, as well as allied, aircraft, grenading your own tents... how impotent can a nation really get?

And how do you justify the war? O NOSE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!! Go the fück to war with North Korea then if you're afraid of WMDs! Or don't they have enough oil there to justify going to war with?

:thumb:

[experi_metal]

I remember hearing you a while before. I genuinely think you guys and your music is awesome, and if I was in newcastle and not SA, I'd like to have a beer with you and your 'muslim scumbag mates'.

Cool, it's just too bad that I don't know any muslims and I live, as was raised, in an area that is 95% caucasian... I've no relations with anyone of a different race (in real life, that is)

:chug:

[cadencethefire]

spend a little more time on your recordings, save up and buy a real piano synth, get a good cab and mic it correctly and buy a drum mic pac to record the drums WELL. All i heard out of this was poor production, poor musicianship and an even worse atitude,

Have you ever been to america? or did you just hop on the i hate bush band wagon because he's just like all other americans? you're a bunch of ****ing ignorant, uneducated idiots, you know that people from EVERY culture/ color/ creed/ whatever live in our country ESPECIALLY NEW YORK and it wasn't just AMERICANS that died in the twin towers, it was called the WORLD TRADE CENTER.

You're the equivalent to the ignorant americans that you oh so hate.

GROW THE **** UP

YOU ****ING **** *** SHITHOLES

[Corkofski]

this thread archived for lulz.

[jew_grinder]

Suck **** you scumbag, you deserve to be banned. No one is ever going to listen your crappy music, let alone sign you, so you should just quit now and go and hang yourself.

[experi_metal_v2]

Hahahahahaha, banned. That's hilarious

[experi_metal_v2]

spend a little more time on your recordings, save up and buy a real piano synth, get a good cab and mic it correctly and buy a drum mic pac to record the drums WELL. All i heard out of this was poor production, poor musicianship and an even worse atitude,

Have you ever been to america? or did you just hop on the i hate bush band wagon because he's just like all other americans? you're a bunch of ****ing ignorant, uneducated idiots, you know that people from EVERY culture/ color/ creed/ whatever live in our country ESPECIALLY NEW YORK and it wasn't just AMERICANS that died in the twin towers, it was called the WORLD TRADE CENTER.

You're the equivalent to the ignorant americans that you oh so hate.

GROW THE **** UP

YOU ****ING **** *** SHITHOLES

HAHAHAHA I only just noticed this post. HILARIOUS. So what you're saying is that America is full of immigrants then?

Have I said anywhere what specific race we oppose? No? Didn't think so.

[Magicaltroll]

Obviously neither of you know anything about death metal, let alone are fans of it, so why bother even coming into this thread?

That's all I have to say.

I love Death Metal.


But I didn;t like it much.


I like some ****ty Grind stuff too, but I just couldn't get into this.




It's not THAT bad though, but there's a hell of alot of room for improvement...



Just keep at it, Don't let these nigs get you down.





p.s. -
I just read the rest of your posts...


Please, stop trolling.
I used to do what you did, and made every song I ever made, offensive as ****. But then I realized, that it was pointless, and the people that liked me, only liked me for pissing everyone off, and they were douchebags anyways.


So, all I'm saying is, this isn;'t worth it.
But then again, everyone has their own idea of having fun.

[MatthewMeredith]

I feel pretty proud that I was the only one to actually make a decent, constructive comment here :p

[cadencethefire]

HAHAHAHA I only just noticed this post. HILARIOUS. So what you're saying is that America is full of immigrants then?

Have I said anywhere what specific race we oppose? No? Didn't think so.

what's so funny about you being an idiot?

america is filled with immigrants... every family that lives here (besides american indians) has an immigrant past... and no you didn't specifically say anything about races i was trying to enlighten you that it wasn't only an american loss. I should have made that clearer before since i already knew you had little understanding of the situation

[cadencethefire]

I feel pretty proud that I was the only one to actually make a decent, constructive comment here :p

i made one too but i was an asshole about it

[experi_metal_v2]

I love Death Metal.


But I didn;t like it much.


I like some ****ty Grind stuff too, but I just couldn't get into this.




It's not THAT bad though, but there's a hell of alot of room for improvement...



Just keep at it, Don't let these nigs get you down.





p.s. -
I just read the rest of your posts...


Please, stop trolling.
I used to do what you did, and made every song I ever made, offensive as ****. But then I realized, that it was pointless, and the people that liked me, only liked me for pissing everyone off, and they were douchebags anyways.


So, all I'm saying is, this isn;'t worth it.
But then again, everyone has their own idea of having fun.

No offense, but I came here to promote both of my band's music, and the members of this board start a **** fight over the lyrical content, which has nothing to do with anyone on this board. I write lyrics that I want to write. I don't write to piss people off, I don't write to make people happy. I write what I want to write.

I don't think I'm trolling in any way. I come in and reply to comments that have been made. I reply in the way that the initial comment is made. If it's civil, I reply civil. If it's ignorant and stupid, I reply ignorant and stupid.

Anyways, thanks for your comments :wave:

[experi_metal_v2]

what's so funny about you being an idiot?

america is filled with immigrants... every family that lives here (besides american indians) has an immigrant past... and no you didn't specifically say anything about races i was trying to enlighten you that it wasn't only an american loss. I should have made that clearer before since i already knew you had little understanding of the situation

Hahahaha, oh **** you continue to crack me up.

Off on a tangent once again. So you don't consider people born there to be American? The only Americans are that of the Natives? That is truly a cry for help, because when you swing out of context like, you know you're beat.

Thanks for playing :wave:

[killfile]

I think the nationalist crap everyone's been spouting had gotten old. It'd be nice for everyone to shut the f_ck up and talk about the music.

In regards to the music, by the way - Avenging the Death is awesome, but I think the singing needs a lot of work. It's very weak. Other than that I do dig it.

[cadencethefire]

Hahahaha, oh **** you continue to crack me up.

Off on a tangent once again. So you don't consider people born there to be American? The only Americans are that of the Natives? That is truly a cry for help, because when you swing out of context like, you know you're beat.

Thanks for playing :wave:

you don't get it

[experi_metal_v2]

you don't get it

I don't get it? You start by saying first that it wasn't only Americans that died in 9/11. Then you go on to say the only true Americans are the Natives. An immigrant past has nothing to do with if a person is an immigrant or not. If a person is born in a country and stays in that country, whether their parents are nigs or nips, they are not an immigrant.

[killfile]

If a person is born in a country and stays in that country, whether their parents are nigs or nips, they are not an immigrant.

Man, seriously, shut up. I think you've been outraaaageous enough to rock everyone's world with racial slurs, so before this thread gets locked, it'd be nice to actually discuss black metal for a little while instead of playing sh*t-flinging monkeys. And everyone else, I think we get it that this guy has different views, let's take a deep breath and get over it.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I feel ashamed to come from the same city as this idiot.

The music was **** too.

[Evilimmortal]

I feel ashamed to come from the same city as this idiot.

The music was **** too.


I hate when someone say's "the music is S.H.I.T"...come on ! do something better and them have a base to stand on and criticize:smash:

[experi_metal_v2]

I feel ashamed to come from the same city as this idiot.

The music was **** too.

Hahaha. Did you go to that metalcore gig at wherever the **** it was at in town last night?

[experi_metal_v2]

A new 5 song demo of our upcoming 61 track album is up on soundclick!

Track #1
Track #2
Track #3
Track #4
Track #5

http://www.soundclick.com/gclad :wave:

[AmonAmarth]

I listened to and didn't think it was any good. I've been listening to metal for about 15 years and I just didn't like it. It reminded me of when I was in my first metal band, it just doesn't work. Maybe it's just the recording equipment you're using, or that you want to have a Black Metal (tarnished and 'real') sound, or that you want to be Burzum. Either way, it doesn't work that way anymore, the butchering of recording ended with the way of Varg. Honestly, I think 1349's demo recording is better then this, and that's not saying very much... then again, it may just be the recording process that blowed.

I think as musicians, you need to refine your skills, I heard quite a few mistakes from the guitarists/bassist while listening to about 8 of your songs. It's not to say that I'm better, but they were very noticeable.

As a vocalist to another vocalist, you suck. Take singing lessons. There's no way around it, it's worse then Varg and a dying horse put together. I suggest that maybe you learn how to match tones with your voice so that when you growl, you can at least match the pitch to what's going on, even if its in a different octave. It's not terribly difficult to learn, but you're going to need to learn it. Every metal fan will think you're a joke if you don't. Most musicians will tell you that vocals mean nothing to a band, but they mean the most because its what your listeners are first going to recognize with.

Finally, stop mixing in different genre's into one song. I heard like Thrash/Black/Grind throughout the songs and they don't mix together. Stick to one genre per song, then one genre per album, then just a genre.

[Swill_Merchant]

It was very monotonous. The music is WAY to energetic to be monotonous. I'll give it you you, some of it was pretty good (considering the last set of "music" that you put up). I still think your politics are a little off and mostly fake, but I still think your work here was somewhat well produced and for the most part above average from metal that I usually hear. You suprised me, you really did.
:smoke:

[experi_metal_v2]

I listened to and didn't think it was any good. I've been listening to metal for about 15 years and I just didn't like it. It reminded me of when I was in my first metal band, it just doesn't work. Maybe it's just the recording equipment you're using, or that you want to have a Black Metal (tarnished and 'real') sound, or that you want to be Burzum. Either way, it doesn't work that way anymore, the butchering of recording ended with the way of Varg. Honestly, I think 1349's demo recording is better then this, and that's not saying very much... then again, it may just be the recording process that blowed.

I think as musicians, you need to refine your skills, I heard quite a few mistakes from the guitarists/bassist while listening to about 8 of your songs. It's not to say that I'm better, but they were very noticeable.

As a vocalist to another vocalist, you suck. Take singing lessons. There's no way around it, it's worse then Varg and a dying horse put together. I suggest that maybe you learn how to match tones with your voice so that when you growl, you can at least match the pitch to what's going on, even if its in a different octave. It's not terribly difficult to learn, but you're going to need to learn it. Every metal fan will think you're a joke if you don't. Most musicians will tell you that vocals mean nothing to a band, but they mean the most because its what your listeners are first going to recognize with.

Finally, stop mixing in different genre's into one song. I heard like Thrash/Black/Grind throughout the songs and they don't mix together. Stick to one genre per song, then one genre per album, then just a genre.

No.

It was very monotonous. The music is WAY to energetic to be monotonous. I'll give it you you, some of it was pretty good (considering the last set of "music" that you put up). I still think your politics are a little off and mostly fake, but I still think your work here was somewhat well produced and for the most part above average from metal that I usually hear. You suprised me, you really did.
:smoke:

For starters, our "politics" are not fake... Anyways, our music is more of a social topic than a political topic just to set the record straight :)

As for the new music, we're glad you liked it. People seem to think that we're just a bunch of 13 year old kids banging on pots and pans trying to piss everyone off :confused: , but I guess this new stuff is going to change all that.

EDIT: Well... maybe a little bit is policital, but my (and possibly the rest of the band's) views were set long before this government was in power

[Dr Nihil]

I am unable to distinguish the new from the old. It all sounds the same to me.

I "lawled".

[Brad on bass]

All i have to say is this.....
everybody!!! please dont judge this great country called Australia on this on sick minded and effe'd up person....

ohh and i didnt like the music....

you should take advice better, snap out of your dream world and learn more about the world....

and....your a disgrace to Australia...

[FockerTheLopper]

No.



For starters, our "politics" are not fake... Anyways, our music is more of a social topic than a political topic just to set the record straight :)

As for the new music, we're glad you liked it. People seem to think that we're just a bunch of 13 year old kids banging on pots and pans trying to piss everyone off :confused: , but I guess this new stuff is going to change all that.

EDIT: Well... maybe a little bit is policital, but my (and possibly the rest of the band's) views were set long before this government was in power

Okay, first off, I think you need take your head of out your ***. Your in denial, you need to change your attitude and maybe everything else is going to fall into place.
To start off, it sounded horrible, the drums couldn't even be heard. The guitarist was the best technician but still horrid to say the least. I couldn't hear your bass and you singing was weak. I don't like death metal but I know how hard growling is and you can wisper into a mic and expect to sound good. Don't even say you know about politics either because everyone your talking about is just chewed up and reused bullcrap that noone wants to hear anymore.

Don't take this too hard though, conversly don't take it too lightly because if you don't change your going to continue sucking. Change your attitude, every time someone said something you kept coming up with excuses. If you aren't happy with your recordings don't put them up. Noone in the real world wants to hear your excuses so what makes you think people over here want to hear them? Think about it you're going to go to your first gig, and while playing the first song your going to stop and say, "okay guys listen, I'm sorry that the drummer is too low and that you can barely hear me" no, your going to get laughed at and never get a chance to play again.

Music is hard man, work, take some music classes, learn your scales, learn your harmonies, learn proper technique learn to play in tune all this stuff is important man. Death metal(or whatever your playing) is probably the hardest type of music, the pros can't do it right, what makes you think you guys can with that attitude and amount of work put in. The drummer needs to have extremely good technique not to drop tempo and alot of precision to keep everyone together. Its all relative, if hes in the pocket then you'll grab on and the guitarist will have an easy time playing.

Take this into consideration and don't give me any bullshit responses... I already had a couple of good laughs today, and I don't need another


Edit to the guy on top of me: Don't worry, I don't any drummer on these boards is going to think low of Austrialia(I hope I spelled that right) and you can thank Damo for that.

[experi_metal_v2]

Okay, first off, I think you need take your head of out your ***. Your in denial, you need to change your attitude and maybe everything else is going to fall into place.
To start off, it sounded horrible, the drums couldn't even be heard. The guitarist was the best technician but still horrid to say the least. I couldn't hear your bass and you singing was weak. I don't like death metal but I know how hard growling is and you can wisper into a mic and expect to sound good. Don't even say you know about politics either because everyone your talking about is just chewed up and reused bullcrap that noone wants to hear anymore.

Don't take this too hard though, conversly don't take it too lightly because if you don't change your going to continue sucking. Change your attitude, every time someone said something you kept coming up with excuses. If you aren't happy with your recordings don't put them up. Noone in the real world wants to hear your excuses so what makes you think people over here want to hear them? Think about it you're going to go to your first gig, and while playing the first song your going to stop and say, "okay guys listen, I'm sorry that the drummer is too low and that you can barely hear me" no, your going to get laughed at and never get a chance to play again.

Music is hard man, work, take some music classes, learn your scales, learn your harmonies, learn proper technique learn to play in tune all this stuff is important man. Death metal(or whatever your playing) is probably the hardest type of music, the pros can't do it right, what makes you think you guys can with that attitude and amount of work put in. The drummer needs to have extremely good technique not to drop tempo and alot of precision to keep everyone together. Its all relative, if hes in the pocket then you'll grab on and the guitarist will have an easy time playing.

Take this into consideration and don't give me any bullshit responses... I already had a couple of good laughs today, and I don't need another


Edit to the guy on top of me: Don't worry, I don't any drummer on these boards is going to think low of Austrialia(I hope I spelled that right) and you can thank Damo for that.

No.

[FockerTheLopper]

No.

Wow. If your not 10 years old you should be ashamed of yourself. Why don't you listen to good advice. I guess you want to keep sucking. No joke but if you were here I'd make you cry about how crappy you are. I'm not here to make you feel bad though, I'm here(as are all the members) for YOUR BENIFIT, so how about listening. Lets take a hypothetical situation...
Me: fix your sound
you: no thats how we express ourselfs.
Good excuse you might have used it, if you didn't it was deffinately in that book of excuses you have next to you. Listen, its cool but imagine listening to a band that doesn't know how to play they're instruments, not good right? Well guess what your forcing us to listen to.

Get better. Learn what level your on, don't pretend your all high and mighty because you aren't. If you put audio and people all respond negatively about everything you need to change. Don't change your taste in music or whatever makes your music personal just do the basics to get a somewhat decent foundation.

If I didn't want you to learn and improve from this I wouldn't spend so much time posting. Do us all a favor and practice and spread the knowledge to your band.

[Zebba]

Im following Focker and his humiliation of other people and his jokes.. and I


LOVE IT, haha, and @ the guy who he is bagging, you got called a 10 yr old, haha!

[experi_metal_v2]

Wow. If your not 10 years old you should be ashamed of yourself. Why don't you listen to good advice. I guess you want to keep sucking. No joke but if you were here I'd make you cry about how crappy you are. I'm not here to make you feel bad though, I'm here(as are all the members) for YOUR BENIFIT, so how about listening. Lets take a hypothetical situation...
Me: fix your sound
you: no thats how we express ourselfs.
Good excuse you might have used it, if you didn't it was deffinately in that book of excuses you have next to you. Listen, its cool but imagine listening to a band that doesn't know how to play they're instruments, not good right? Well guess what your forcing us to listen to.

Get better. Learn what level your on, don't pretend your all high and mighty because you aren't. If you put audio and people all respond negatively about everything you need to change. Don't change your taste in music or whatever makes your music personal just do the basics to get a somewhat decent foundation.

If I didn't want you to learn and improve from this I wouldn't spend so much time posting. Do us all a favor and practice and spread the knowledge to your band.

No.

[Zebba]

^loser

[experi_metal_v2]

^loser

You're following some nobody around a forum and I'm the loser? You better check the mirror buddy, because the mark you're gonna leave on life is nothing but a piss stain that'll was straight out and never be remembered

[Zebba]

No.

[FockerTheLopper]

Im following Focker and his humiliation of other people and his jokes.. and I


LOVE IT, haha, and @ the guy who he is bagging, you got called a 10 yr old, haha!

To be fair I'm not humiliating him for no reason. He obviously doesn't know where hes at musically/doesn't want to fix(if he knows) and he is very arrogant and doesn't want to listen to advice.
Glad to see I have fans though

You're following some nobody around a forum and I'm the loser? You better check the mirror buddy, because the mark you're gonna leave on life is nothing but a piss stain that'll was straight out and never be remembered

Chances are your gonna be even less than a piss stain if you don't change your attitude.

[experi_metal_v2]

To be fair I'm not humiliating him for no reason. He obviously doesn't know where hes at musically/doesn't want to fix(if he knows) and he is very arrogant and doesn't want to listen to advice.
Glad to see I have fans though



Chances are your gonna be even less than a piss stain if you don't change your attitude.

So much wrong with this statement it's not funny. Where should I start... from the top I supposed.

1. You haven't humiliated me in any way.

2. I don't want to listen to YOUR advice. You've said nothing that hasn't already been said, and I refuse to take advice from someone who goes about it by being an asshole about it.

3. I'd rather be in a death metal band with no fans, than have "fans" that follow me around a forum.

:wave:

[FockerTheLopper]

So much wrong with this statement it's not funny. Where should I start... from the top I supposed.

1. You haven't humiliated me in any way.

2. I don't want to listen to YOUR advice. You've said nothing that hasn't already been said, and I refuse to take advice from someone who goes about it by being an asshole about it.

3. I'd rather be in a death metal band with no fans, than have "fans" that follow me around a forum.

:wave:

Fine, keep sucking. I honestly could not care less, the advice is there if you one day see the light(maybe one day you'll finnally get a crappy gig and get booed off)

[experi_metal_v2]

Fine, keep sucking. I honestly could not care less, the advice is there if you one day see the light(maybe one day you'll finnally get a crappy gig and get booed off)

My god you're stupid. Does it need to be nailed into your forehead with a hammer? The so called "advice" you've given in this thread is nothing that HASN'T ALREADY BEEN SAID. You're not all high and mighty mate, you're just another number so stop acting like it.

[FockerTheLopper]

My god you're stupid. Does it need to be nailed into your forehead with a hammer? The so called "advice" you've given in this thread is nothing that HASN'T ALREADY BEEN SAID. You're not all high and mighty mate, you're just another number so stop acting like it.

Okay, I'll make you feel stupid, LINE BY LINE. "My god you're stupid" - starting off with an insult for no reason, as well as being a contradictory statement with your refrence to god, since black metal is notorious for being atheist/satanist. You have no excuse because the songwriter/lyrics so if you would disagree to that and label yourself black metal you would be a "poser"(by modern day definition).

"Does it need to be nailed into your forehead with a hammer? The so called "advice" you've given in the thread is nothing that hasn't been said already". I'm not going to read through the thread but I'm positive that anyone told you anything about attidude/playing out in the future and if someone did please copy and paste to show me. That sentence was just a little side note though, I accually never said that it was new advice, I just told you it was good and you should take it. You obviously don't want any advice because you think your good.

"You're not all high and mighty mate, you're just another number so stop acting like it" I will take the time [once again] to bring out your lie. I never said I'm "all high and mighty" and I don't think I implied that. I don't know how you were raised but giving someone good and valid advice isn't being all high and mighty. I'm sorry I didn't sugarcoat it so I wouldn't hurt your feeling but I said the truth. "You're just another number so stop acting like it" I hope you see the contradiction here, your calling me another number as if your all "high and mighty." Finally we come to "stop acting like it." If I was acting all high and mighty I would say something like this "Wow you suck, you guys are such noobs and you should just quit. My band is so much better, (then I'd whore my band). Thats how you play death metal. (then I'd go about comparing musicians and only bringing out the good in mine and bad in yours)".

So you see, your post is 100% incorrect, your lucky I like argueing, but you should spend alot less time on these boards if you ever plan to get good because death metal takes alot of technique and you don't got it[yet, who knows, if you get wise you might accually progress]

[experi_metal_v2]

Okay, I'll make you feel stupid, LINE BY LINE. "My god you're stupid" - starting off with an insult for no reason, as well as being a contradictory statement with your refrence to god, since black metal is notorious for being atheist/satanist. You have no excuse because the songwriter/lyrics so if you would disagree to that and label yourself black metal you would be a "poser"(by modern day definition).

When I joined the band, I had no say in the lyrical content/style of music. It was a Black Metal band when I joined, and the drummer wrote most of it. I personally despise Black Metal, but I've always been close to the band, and they grew old of playing it, so we progress to Death Metal.

Further more, if I was a satanist, then my statement would stand, due to the fact that in satanism, the God in Satanism is one's self.

As for the insult, I think that was pretty well justified. I mean, you had no grounds to start your first comment off in this thread with an insult. I've treated people in this thread how they've treated me. That's all.

"Does it need to be nailed into your forehead with a hammer? The so called "advice" you've given in the thread is nothing that hasn't been said already". I'm not going to read through the thread but I'm positive that anyone told you anything about attidude/playing out in the future and if someone did please copy and paste to show me. That sentence was just a little side note though, I accually never said that it was new advice, I just told you it was good and you should take it. You obviously don't want any advice because you think your good.

This is not Dr Phil, you're not going to change me, therefore I don't see that as advice, so **** off.

Anyways:

I used to do what you did, and made every song I ever made, offensive as ****. But then I realized, that it was pointless, and the people that liked me, only liked me for pissing everyone off, and they were douchebags anyways.

So, all I'm saying is, this isn;'t worth it.
But then again, everyone has their own idea of having fun.

Next.


"You're not all high and mighty mate, you're just another number so stop acting like it" I will take the time [once again] to bring out your lie. I never said I'm "all high and mighty" and I don't think I implied that. I don't know how you were raised but giving someone good and valid advice isn't being all high and mighty. I'm sorry I didn't sugarcoat it so I wouldn't hurt your feeling but I said the truth. "You're just another number so stop acting like it" I hope you see the contradiction here, your calling me another number as if your all "high and mighty." Finally we come to "stop acting like it." If I was acting all high and mighty I would say something like this "Wow you suck, you guys are such noobs and you should just quit. My band is so much better, (then I'd whore my band). Thats how you play death metal. (then I'd go about comparing musicians and only bringing out the good in mine and bad in yours)".

Comparing me to that of a person who is 10 years old makes me seem to think that you believe you're better than me, which in turn shows you to be a complete jackass. If your first comment in this thread wasn't towards my attitude, I may have taken your advice. But you had no grounds to comment on that, so I've had no reason to take your advice.


So you see, your post is 100% incorrect, your lucky I like argueing, but you should spend alot less time on these boards if you ever plan to get good because death metal takes alot of technique and you don't got it[yet, who knows, if you get wise you might accually progress]

Maybe you should get off these boards and take some English lessons :wave:

[FockerTheLopper]

I'm a little girl who doesn't know whats right and wrong

Yes thats right, your songs are very good and they're the greatest death metal tracks ever. In fact I'm a new death metal fan because of you!

[experi_metal_v2]

I'm a little girl who doesn't know whats right and wrong

Yes thats right, your songs are very good and they're the greatest death metal tracks ever. In fact I'm a new death metal fan because of you!

... So you throw all this pseudo-intellectual bullshit at me, and then you back it up with this? A failed attempt at sarcasm? You can't even sufficiently use the quote function to reply to a non-existant "quote" and I'm the one that's supposed to feel stupid?

You should've just quit, because all you did was dig a deeper hole to bury your worthless *** into. The only people with half a brain that have replied to this thread have been Swill & MatthewMeredith. MatthewMeredith didn't let the topic of the lyrics overcome his morale (probably cause he's Canadian and they hate America too :) ) and Swill managed to prove me wrong on the Quran fact and I completely respect him on that, more so that he was decent enough to come back and say that he had a positive opinion of the newer material.

You, on the other hand, are just a worthless cumstain.

[FockerTheLopper]

... So you throw all this pseudo-intellectual bullshit at me, and then you back it up with this? A failed attempt at sarcasm? You can't even sufficiently use the quote function to reply to a non-existant "quote" and I'm the one that's supposed to feel stupid?

You should've just quit, because all you did was dig a deeper hole to bury your worthless *** into. The only people with half a brain that have replied to this thread have been Swill & MatthewMeredith. MatthewMeredith didn't let the topic of the lyrics overcome his morale (probably cause he's Canadian and they hate America too :) ) and Swill managed to prove me wrong on the Quran fact and I completely respect him on that, more so that he was decent enough to come back and say that he had a positive opinion of the newer material.

You, on the other hand, are just a worthless cumstain.

And you just proved my point. The only one to give you even a slight compliment(swill) was the one who you went to, and matter gave you some good advice(and it was good, I respect him alot) that I garentee you aren't going to take into consideration because it was very sugarcoated.

Let me ask some questions though...
How long have you and your band been playing your instruments?
What knowledge of theory do you have?
How long have you been playing together?
How old are you?
What previous band experience have you had?
What are your influences?

[Dr Nihil]

Piss stain, cum stain--I'm noticing a trend here.

Death Metal! Raawwwwrr!

[Mr Benners]

Dude you need to stop instantly hating on ANYONE who doesn't like your material. You seem inable to take criticism musically. I have listened to a lot of the recordings so this is my opinion:

1. Your songs do not strike me as interesting. They seem very formulaic death metal. If you could somehow incorporate something else in there then it will help your band stand out. You guys are obviously Opeth fans; Opeth got where they are by doing something out of the norm at the time.

2. The recording quality is substandard. A lot of people will find it hard to take your band seriously with recordings of such low quality. Everything is very undefined and the overall mix has no depth to it. I'm pretty sure those are standard midi drums you are using too which is a big no no. Does your band have a real drummer? If not then you should get hold of a package like Drumkit from hell (raw unedited drumsounds) or EZDrummer (which is the DFH samples all processed so its easier for you). I reccommend EZDrummer for more instant results, especially if you are on a PC with not much RAM and have little mixing experience. If you DO have a drummer then my advice to you is to seek out a local studio and record there, under the expertise of a sound engineer and a producer. In fact I reccommend that you do this regardless. No offence but your recordings imply little knowledge of music production. It will make a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE to your band if you actually go to a studio. Professional sounding recordings will make people take more notice. Your synth isnt up to much either. How was this recorded? Is it a standard midi patch? When recording, it's important to bear in mind that presets and standard patches unedited are never going to be amazing. Maybe get a friend who plays an instrument in to help you. On my bands latest record, we had a string part. On our EP, we just used a midi synth on it and decided it would do. This time, we got in a friend who played the violin and the difference it made was enormous.

3. This is the audio arena, not politics and shizz. If you or anyone else wants to discuss things like that take it to the Politics forum and at least bring it above the level of a slanging match.

I'm trying to help you here man so I hope you take at least some of my advice.

[FockerTheLopper]

Dude you need to stop instantly hating on ANYONE who doesn't like your material. You seem inable to take criticism musically. I have listened to a lot of the recordings so this is my opinion:

1. Your songs do not strike me as interesting. They seem very formulaic death metal. If you could somehow incorporate something else in there then it will help your band stand out. You guys are obviously Opeth fans; Opeth got where they are by doing something out of the norm at the time.

2. The recording quality is substandard. A lot of people will find it hard to take your band seriously with recordings of such low quality. Everything is very undefined and the overall mix has no depth to it. I'm pretty sure those are standard midi drums you are using too which is a big no no. Does your band have a real drummer? If not then you should get hold of a package like Drumkit from hell (raw unedited drumsounds) or EZDrummer (which is the DFH samples all processed so its easier for you). I reccommend EZDrummer for more instant results, especially if you are on a PC with not much RAM and have little mixing experience. If you DO have a drummer then my advice to you is to seek out a local studio and record there, under the expertise of a sound engineer and a producer. In fact I reccommend that you do this regardless. No offence but your recordings imply little knowledge of music production. It will make a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE to your band if you actually go to a studio. Professional sounding recordings will make people take more notice. Your synth isnt up to much either. How was this recorded? Is it a standard midi patch? When recording, it's important to bear in mind that presets and standard patches unedited are never going to be amazing. Maybe get a friend who plays an instrument in to help you. On my bands latest record, we had a string part. On our EP, we just used a midi synth on it and decided it would do. This time, we got in a friend who played the violin and the difference it made was enormous.

3. This is the audio arena, not politics and shizz. If you or anyone else wants to discuss things like that take it to the Politics forum and at least bring it above the level of a slanging match.

I'm trying to help you here man so I hope you take at least some of my advice.

If I could make an analogy... This advice is like regular sized coffee, extra light 14 sugars, its still coffee but you can really taste it.
The advice he gives on recording is unbelievably good valid and put in a nice way but bad playing with good recording still doesn't sound good.

[Mr Benners]

I was trying to put an optimistic spin on things :(

[FockerTheLopper]

I was trying to put an optimistic spin on things :(

You did a good job of doing that but it won't work for this guy.

[The_One]

This has got to be a ****ing joke.

No one could be this ignorant. They're called critiques for a reason.

The vocals are so ****, if your band got into a fight with Panic! At the Disco, you'd get your Kangaroo *** wooped straight back to Australia.

[RockJunky116]

This sucks because:
The vocals can't be understood
The synth sounds like stupid teens trying to be deep and hardcore
The guitar is muddy as hell and is EQ'd horribly
The lyrics probably suck (because I can't understand them)
The mixing is off
The music is mediocre, but you somehow manage to turn it into retards playing guitar
You made another account because your first one got banned for being a douche

It's after thanksgiving, I'm kinda drunk, so I'll listen to this again tomorrow to see if it sounds any better sober.
I'm betting money it doesn't. 'night, guys

[FockerTheLopper]

This sucks because:
The vocals can't be understood
The synth sounds like stupid teens trying to be deep and hardcore
The guitar is muddy as hell and is EQ'd horribly
The lyrics probably suck (because I can't understand them)
The mixing is off
The music is mediocre, but you somehow manage to turn it into retards playing guitar
You made another account because your first one got banned for being a douche

It's after thanksgiving, I'm kinda drunk, so I'll listen to this again tomorrow to see if it sounds any better sober.
I'm betting money it doesn't. 'night, guys

It doesn't.
Another thing to the threadstarter... Hypothetically saying you do make it big, what are you going to tell everyone who doesn't like your music? No were good you just don't get it. Accept the fact that you suck then you can start improving

[experi_metal_v2]

Dude you need to stop instantly hating on ANYONE who doesn't like your material. You seem inable to take criticism musically. I have listened to a lot of the recordings so this is my opinion:

1. Your songs do not strike me as interesting. They seem very formulaic death metal. If you could somehow incorporate something else in there then it will help your band stand out. You guys are obviously Opeth fans; Opeth got where they are by doing something out of the norm at the time.

2. The recording quality is substandard. A lot of people will find it hard to take your band seriously with recordings of such low quality. Everything is very undefined and the overall mix has no depth to it. I'm pretty sure those are standard midi drums you are using too which is a big no no. Does your band have a real drummer? If not then you should get hold of a package like Drumkit from hell (raw unedited drumsounds) or EZDrummer (which is the DFH samples all processed so its easier for you). I reccommend EZDrummer for more instant results, especially if you are on a PC with not much RAM and have little mixing experience. If you DO have a drummer then my advice to you is to seek out a local studio and record there, under the expertise of a sound engineer and a producer. In fact I reccommend that you do this regardless. No offence but your recordings imply little knowledge of music production. It will make a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE to your band if you actually go to a studio. Professional sounding recordings will make people take more notice. Your synth isnt up to much either. How was this recorded? Is it a standard midi patch? When recording, it's important to bear in mind that presets and standard patches unedited are never going to be amazing. Maybe get a friend who plays an instrument in to help you. On my bands latest record, we had a string part. On our EP, we just used a midi synth on it and decided it would do. This time, we got in a friend who played the violin and the difference it made was enormous.

3. This is the audio arena, not politics and shizz. If you or anyone else wants to discuss things like that take it to the Politics forum and at least bring it above the level of a slanging match.

I'm trying to help you here man so I hope you take at least some of my advice.

Hey, thanks for the advice, it's much appreciated. But I'm not "instantly hating everyone that doesn't like our music." I'm just replying to people in the matter that they've posted in the thread, as I've said already. If someone comes in posting like a ****wit, I'll reply like one.

Treat others like they treat yourself bud.

This has got to be a ****ing joke.

No one could be this ignorant. They're called critiques for a reason.

The vocals are so ****, if your band got into a fight with Panic! At the Disco, you'd get your Kangaroo *** wooped straight back to Australia.

You're ****ing stupid.

This sucks because:
The vocals can't be understood
The synth sounds like stupid teens trying to be deep and hardcore
The guitar is muddy as hell and is EQ'd horribly
The lyrics probably suck (because I can't understand them)
The mixing is off
The music is mediocre, but you somehow manage to turn it into retards playing guitar
You made another account because your first one got banned for being a douche

It's after thanksgiving, I'm kinda drunk, so I'll listen to this again tomorrow to see if it sounds any better sober.
I'm betting money it doesn't. 'night, guys

85% of death metal vocals can't be understood.
How is a synth hardcore?
WE like the guitar.
Yes, the mixing is terrible.
And I got banned for defending my beliefs.

It doesn't.
Another thing to the threadstarter... Hypothetically saying you do make it big, what are you going to tell everyone who doesn't like your music? No were good you just don't get it. Accept the fact that you suck then you can start improving

Every post you make becomes exceedingly more stupid than the last, yet you seem to think you're right? I have not said anything in this thread that I think we're the greatest death metal band since Death or Aborted, and I haven't denied that there's many faults in our recordings. You're just some idiot that spends his time trolling a forum, so I'm not even going to bother with your posts anymore.

[FockerTheLopper]

:chug: Hey, thanks for the advice, it's much appreciated. But I'm not "instantly hating everyone that doesn't like our music." I'm just replying to people in the matter that they've posted in the thread, as I've said already. If someone comes in posting like a ****wit, I'll reply like one.

Treat others like they treat yourself bud.



You're ****ing stupid.



85% of death metal vocals can't be understood.
How is a synth hardcore?
WE like the guitar.
Yes, the mixing is terrible.
And I got banned for defending my beliefs.



Every post you make becomes exceedingly more stupid than the last, yet you seem to think you're right? I have not said anything in this thread that I think we're the greatest death metal band since Death or Aborted, and I haven't denied that there's many faults in our recordings. You're just some idiot that spends his time trolling a forum, so I'm not even going to bother with your posts anymore.

I accually practice my instruments while "trolling" the forum. I never said you think your the greatest, I just played out what would happen if you were to get famous and criticized by people.

[experi_metal_v2]

New G-Clad Demo is up!
http://www.soundclick.com/gclad

Track listing as follows:

01 - Intro
02 - Sodomising Infants In The Birth Defects Ward
03 - Raped On Her Daughter's Grave
04 - For Sale; Fetal-Lined Dog Bowels
05 - Split Colon I - Ripped From Her Cunt With An Ice Pick
06 - Split Colon II - The Exploded Scat Bomb
07 - Split Colon III - Maggot Infested Aftermath

[FockerTheLopper]

I listened to the new ones and while it is significantly improved it still lacks alot. Get real musicians the instruments don't sound like people. Alot of the guitar riffs are cheesy too, death metal uses alot of dissonance(not meaning out of tune guitars, just meaning that maybe you strike a couple of dissonant chords to create tension and you might not even have to release it)

[RockJunky116]

if you brought out the guitar, after it was tuned, and took the vocals away/made them sound better, it'd be OK. not great, just OK. it's just not... musical. you can't get your "deep" philosophies across with stuff that sounds fake.

[Mr Benners]

Is the guitarist in "G-clad" different to the other band with the long name? The tone and playing are far superior. The guitar is actually quite defined in these recordings. However your drums still suck. A lot. And worst of all they seem to be one of the loudest things in the song. It's the cymbals mainly, they just sound washy and fake. Also the vocals are lacking in my opinion. It sounds like the singer is just rasping into the mic and having it boosted, when to get that death metal vocal sound he needs to actually be shouting. Don't go for a low volume rasp to get the "throaty" sound, actually learn to scream/roar properly (in a way that doesn't hurt your voice permanently). Another thing with the mixing is that the actual sound quality of the vocal track is a lot less compared to the guitar, get a better mic.

Is there a bass on these songs? I'm not sure I can hear it.

In terms of composition though, this has struck me. You and your bands seem to write and record LOT of music. What I'm finding as I'm listening to these songs is that a lot of it just sounds very very similar. This isn't because I'm not a fan of death metal - on the contrary I am - I just don't see any real advancement of songrwiting. If you look at others on this forum like Brom, Dave and Misha, they write and record one song every month or so (if that) but what they DO come out with is always of high production quality and when you compare it to their previous work you can see how they have progressed as musicians and composers. I'm not saying stop writing, I'm saying maybe spend longer writing songs and not recording every idea that you have.

Things I would mainly like to see changed: Get real drums, improve vocal recording quality, go to a studio.

[Swill_Merchant]

I thought the drums you used were extremly fake sounding and annoying. It was like they only had a huge treble-earshattering sound. This is a step down to the black metal that you did. It sounded like every other deathmetal band I have ever heard. Extremley monotonous and loud.
WHAT THE HELL DOES G-CLAD STAND FOR?!

[Apocalyptic Raids]

WHAT THE HELL DOES G-CLAD STAND FOR?!
It's their gang name duh

[experi_metal_v2]

Is the guitarist in "G-clad" different to the other band with the long name? The tone and playing are far superior. The guitar is actually quite defined in these recordings. However your drums still suck. A lot. And worst of all they seem to be one of the loudest things in the song. It's the cymbals mainly, they just sound washy and fake. Also the vocals are lacking in my opinion. It sounds like the singer is just rasping into the mic and having it boosted, when to get that death metal vocal sound he needs to actually be shouting. Don't go for a low volume rasp to get the "throaty" sound, actually learn to scream/roar properly (in a way that doesn't hurt your voice permanently). Another thing with the mixing is that the actual sound quality of the vocal track is a lot less compared to the guitar, get a better mic.

Is there a bass on these songs? I'm not sure I can hear it.

In terms of composition though, this has struck me. You and your bands seem to write and record LOT of music. What I'm finding as I'm listening to these songs is that a lot of it just sounds very very similar. This isn't because I'm not a fan of death metal - on the contrary I am - I just don't see any real advancement of songrwiting. If you look at others on this forum like Brom, Dave and Misha, they write and record one song every month or so (if that) but what they DO come out with is always of high production quality and when you compare it to their previous work you can see how they have progressed as musicians and composers. I'm not saying stop writing, I'm saying maybe spend longer writing songs and not recording every idea that you have.

Things I would mainly like to see changed: Get real drums, improve vocal recording quality, go to a studio.

One of the guitarists in G-Clad is in M.E.H. To be honest, I'm never happy with how the drummers come out in the mix and I really think we need to work on that.

As for the vocals, the only gain changing was to reduce DBs, not increase them. On the older vocals, it was increased, so I've changed my style for the newer stuff.

There is no bass on these recordings.

I thought the drums you used were extremly fake sounding and annoying. It was like they only had a huge treble-earshattering sound. This is a step down to the black metal that you did. It sounded like every other deathmetal band I have ever heard. Extremley monotonous and loud.
WHAT THE HELL DOES G-CLAD STAND FOR?!

G-Clad is a play on words... well, word. :p

[Mr Benners]

One of the guitarists in G-Clad is in M.E.H. To be honest, I'm never happy with how the drummers come out in the mix and I really think we need to work on that.

As for the vocals, the only gain changing was to reduce DBs, not increase them. On the older vocals, it was increased, so I've changed my style for the newer stuff.

There is no bass on these recordings.

Then stop using midi drums. Seriously. No one is going to give you much of a chance with them. Just don't record anything else until you either have a drummer who you can record or are using a proper drum sampler.

Change your style again then. It just sounds like a quiet noise thats been boosted. You're saying that this is not the case, but it sounds like that. Also buy a mic thats designed for vocals.

Get a bassist, or one of your guitarists to record bass.

This is why I reccommend going to a studio. They KNOW what they are doing when it comes to recording you and your band. They can provide decent samplers and often have house instruments lying around for your use (ie a bass if no one owns one).

[experi_metal_v2]

Then stop using midi drums. Seriously. No one is going to give you much of a chance with them. Just don't record anything else until you either have a drummer who you can record or are using a proper drum sampler.

Change your style again then. It just sounds like a quiet noise thats been boosted. You're saying that this is not the case, but it sounds like that. Also buy a mic thats designed for vocals.

Get a bassist, or one of your guitarists to record bass.

This is why I reccommend going to a studio. They KNOW what they are doing when it comes to recording you and your band. They can provide decent samplers and often have house instruments lying around for your use (ie a bass if no one owns one).

The drums aren't midi.

I've had neighbours complaining, so my vocals aren't quiet.

There's no bass because we don't want bass.

[FockerTheLopper]

The drums aren't midi.

I've had neighbours complaining, so my vocals aren't quiet.

There's no bass because we don't want bass.

Mr Benner, I hope you now realize why giving normal advice/critism is pointless. I'm sorry but your drummer absolutely blows then. Get a different drummer or tell him to get some serious lessons.

I can't believe it took me this longn to directly realize what you're doing wrong. Instead of listening to the critisism and fixxing it your simply denying it by giving an excuse.

[experi_metal_v2]

Mr Benner, I hope you now realize why giving normal advice/critism is pointless. I'm sorry but your drummer absolutely blows then. Get a different drummer or tell him to get some serious lessons.

I can't believe it took me this longn to directly realize what you're doing wrong. Instead of listening to the critisism and fixxing it your simply denying it by giving an excuse.

God damn you are stupid. I guess blindmelon7 was right when he said drummers never shut up.

[Mr Benners]

Mr Benner, I hope you now realize why giving normal advice/critism is pointless. I'm sorry but your drummer absolutely blows then. Get a different drummer or tell him to get some serious lessons.

I can't believe it took me this longn to directly realize what you're doing wrong. Instead of listening to the critisism and fixxing it your simply denying it by giving an excuse.

Indeed I do finally give up. I hope he can at least take some of my advice. Also those ARE NOT real drums. Every cymbal hit sounds EXACTLY the same and I'm sure others will agree with me. Meh, I try :p

[Swill_Merchant]

Indeed I do finally give up. I hope he can at least take some of my advice. Also those ARE NOT real drums. Every cymbal hit sounds EXACTLY the same and I'm sure others will agree with me. Meh, I try :p

The whole recording sounds like it was done on a 20 dollar program. The drums are annoying as a click track. If they are real drums, they might be triggered drums from the early 80's (it would explain a lot)

[FockerTheLopper]

God damn you are stupid. I guess blindmelon7 was right when he said drummers never shut up.

Did he say anything about clarinetists tubaists and guitarists also? Okay then. I also never got a responce to my questions, you just insult me. At least answer the questions I ask before you insult me.

[RockJunky116]

I'm a clarinetist and I give a mighty fine prison blowjob.
This music blows better than I do though :upset:

[experi_metal_v2]

In all honesty, I never came here looking for advice. I came here to share my bands' music.

And you just proved my point. The only one to give you even a slight compliment(swill) was the one who you went to, and matter gave you some good advice(and it was good, I respect him alot) that I garentee you aren't going to take into consideration because it was very sugarcoated.

Let me ask some questions though...
How long have you and your band been playing your instruments?
What knowledge of theory do you have?
How long have you been playing together?
How old are you?
What previous band experience have you had?
What are your influences?

MEH has been together since late November '05, G-Clad since August '06.

I've been playing bass for 4 years with a year and a half of theory (basic scales, techniques).

The guitarist with me in both bands has been playing about 2 years with a year and a half of theory.

Other guitarist in G-Clad has had 3 years of playing, self taught.

Drummer has been playing a little over 4 years.

FOR THE RECORD: THE DRUMS ON THE RECORDINGS ARE NOT MIDI, BUT THEY ARE ALSO NOT LIVE.

I'm 20, one guitarist is also 20, the other is 17 and the drummer is 19.

Influences: Opeth, Pantera, The Berzerker, Carcass, Decapitated, Anal Cunt.

[FockerTheLopper]

In all honesty, I never came here looking for advice. I came here to share my bands' music.



MEH has been together since late November '05, G-Clad since August '06.

I've been playing bass for 4 years with a year and a half of theory (basic scales, techniques).

The guitarist with me in both bands has been playing about 2 years with a year and a half of theory.

Other guitarist in G-Clad has had 3 years of playing, self taught.

Drummer has been playing a little over 4 years.

FOR THE RECORD: THE DRUMS ON THE RECORDINGS ARE NOT MIDI, BUT THEY ARE ALSO NOT LIVE.

I'm 20, one guitarist is also 20, the other is 17 and the drummer is 19.

Influences: Opeth, Pantera, The Berzerker, Carcass, Decapitated, Anal Cunt.

I don't know what to say maybe you haven't practiced hard enough or put enough time into your music.

[Swill_Merchant]

I'm a clarinetist and I give a mighty fine prison blowjob.
This music blows better than I do though :upset:

*laughs hard*

[Mr Benners]

In all honesty, I never came here looking for advice. I came here to share my bands' music.

FOR THE RECORD: THE DRUMS ON THE RECORDINGS ARE NOT MIDI, BUT THEY ARE ALSO NOT LIVE.

Doesn't mean you can't listen to the advice you're given.

So if the drums aren't midi, and they're not live then what exactly are they? Premade loops? Triggers? I'm actually at a loss here as to what they can be, so please unveil this secret.

[cadencethefire]

OH MY GOD!! get over the fact that your band sucks, you're a poor example of your genre and you have a bad attitude to back it. Try and be nice and take some crit, if you don't like it, maybe you should decide on a new hobby...

At this point your music isn't going to sell or go anywhere, and please don't tell me you're doing for the sake of your own benefit because you wouldn't be posting it online if you didn't care what people thought. If you want some advice, here you go:

stop using midi sequencers, get a NICE drum mic pack, if you have problems with neighbors complaining about noise, rent a sound stage for a few hours to record the drums. Use multiple mics when recording guitar one directly facing the center of the cone, one facing the face of the cone (offset) and one about 15-20 feet away to record a natural reverb. Before each member records their part make sure they know exactly what they're doing beforehand. And as you're recording make sure your sound is raw enough so you are able to enhance the sound in post. I suggest you get a bass player because you're going to need it live... the bass drum doesn't accent itself you know. From now on when you write a song, make sure that you do it with the intent of changing it, nothing EVER comes out perfect unless you're a musical genious who could score symphonies at 5 years old, and trust me, you're nothing of the sort. i hope you grow up and wise up, take advice/ crit gracefully and stop being so stubborn.

[FockerTheLopper]

I'm a clarinetist and I give a mighty fine prison blowjob.
This music blows better than I do though :upset:

haha can't believe I missed that. Also to the man above me, Well put.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

OH MY GOD!! get over the fact that your band sucks, you're a poor example of your genre and you have a bad attitude to back it. Try and be nice and take some crit, if you don't like it, maybe you should decide on a new hobby...

At this point your music isn't going to sell or go anywhere, and please don't tell me you're doing for the sake of your own benefit because you wouldn't be posting it online if you didn't care what people thought. If you want some advice, here you go:

stop using midi sequencers, get a NICE drum mic pack, if you have problems with neighbors complaining about noise, rent a sound stage for a few hours to record the drums. Use multiple mics when recording guitar one directly facing the center of the cone, one facing the face of the cone (offset) and one about 15-20 feet away to record a natural reverb. Before each member records their part make sure they know exactly what they're doing beforehand. And as you're recording make sure your sound is raw enough so you are able to enhance the sound in post. I suggest you get a bass player because you're going to need it live... the bass drum doesn't accent itself you know. From now on when you write a song, make sure that you do it with the intent of changing it, nothing EVER comes out perfect unless you're a musical genious who could score symphonies at 5 years old, and trust me, you're nothing of the sort. i hope you grow up and wise up, take advice/ crit gracefully and stop being so stubborn.
Well said.

[experi_metal_v2]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I get it now. I was under the impression that it was Sputnikmusic, not Sputnikmorons.

Seriously, if you people can sit there, listen to the first batch of ****, then listen to the second batch of **** and say that we're too stubborn to take advice, then you're really ****ing stupid and don't have grounds to be giving advice on to start with.

[FockerTheLopper]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I get it now. I was under the impression that it was Sputnikmusic, not Sputnikmorons.

Seriously, if you people can sit there, listen to the first batch of ****, then listen to the second batch of **** and say that we're too stubborn to take advice, then you're really ****ing stupid and don't have grounds to be giving advice on to start with.

That made no sense. Now I don't know why you think your good so please explain to us what makes your music good or intresting and why we should listen to it

[Mr Benners]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I get it now. I was under the impression that it was Sputnikmusic, not Sputnikmorons.

Seriously, if you people can sit there, listen to the first batch of ****, then listen to the second batch of **** and say that we're too stubborn to take advice, then you're really ****ing stupid and don't have grounds to be giving advice on to start with.

Soo.... the fact that both me and Focker said that it was significantly improved passed you by?

I listened to the new ones and while it is significantly improved
The tone and playing are far superior. The guitar is actually quite defined in these recordings.
Right. Ok.

To say you took our advice is crazy. Did you go to a studio? No. Did you use a better drum sampler? No. Do the vocals sound like you're ****ing screaming your head off? No. Seeing as how anti-America you are I'm suprised you didn't go and download one of the programs I suggested just to really "stick it to them". (DISCLAIMER: I do not advocate piracy or anti-American attitudes)

Seriously. Either go to a studio or find a mate who has some experience doing this stuff for your next release. Don't just go making another one in the same way and put it up on here because you KNOW what will happen and what people's reaction will be.

Also, you said you don't want bass. I cannot think of a single reason why the hell this can be. You're a bass player yourself. You said you've been playing 4 years. Surely you're pretty good at it? Without bass, the recordings are lacking a whole bigass range of frequencies that will add power to your sound. What's more demonic that a big ****off bass riff?

Also Sputnikmorons is not a clever joke. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

[FockerTheLopper]

Soo.... the fact that both me and Focker said that it was significantly improved passed you by?


Right. Ok.

To say you took our advice is crazy. Did you go to a studio? No. Did you use a better drum sampler? No. Do the vocals sound like you're ****ing screaming your head off? No. Seeing as how anti-America you are I'm suprised you didn't go and download one of the programs I suggested just to really "stick it to them". (DISCLAIMER: I do not advocate piracy or anti-American attitudes)

Seriously. Either go to a studio or find a mate who has some experience doing this stuff for your next release. Don't just go making another one in the same way and put it up on here because you KNOW what will happen and what people's reaction will be.

Also, you said you don't want bass. I cannot think of a single reason why the hell this can be. You're a bass player yourself. You said you've been playing 4 years. Surely you're pretty good at it? Without bass, the recordings are lacking a whole bigass range of frequencies that will add power to your sound. What's more demonic that a big ****off bass riff?

Also Sputnikmorons is not a clever joke. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

haha that last line made me chuckle. Honestly, I was thinking about starting a band without bass about a year ago(my reasoning was that its near impossible to find a good bassist and most bassists today would only shadow the guitarists which is pointless, or so I thought). Then one day I was recording at my friends house prior to the bassist coming, we just jammed out to some stuff they wrote at the previous practices. It sounded pretty decent. The bassist comes a little later(I think it was like 15 minutes because we had recorded and were listening to the first song outside) and when we go back in we recorded it. During the first verse the bass shadowed the guitar(then broke away into a riff on its own) and it sounded 10 times better. This wasn't even a good recording and the settings on the amp weren't altered at all for that song, not to say it was bad, but not as good as it could've been.

Moral of the story(I'll sum it up because I didn't paragraph), is that bassists can multiply a bands sound.

[cadencethefire]

haha that last line made me chuckle. Honestly, I was thinking about starting a band without bass about a year ago(my reasoning was that its near impossible to find a good bassist and most bassists today would only shadow the guitarists which is pointless, or so I thought). Then one day I was recording at my friends house prior to the bassist coming, we just jammed out to some stuff they wrote at the previous practices. It sounded pretty decent. The bassist comes a little later(I think it was like 15 minutes because we had recorded and were listening to the first song outside) and when we go back in we recorded it. During the first verse the bass shadowed the guitar(then broke away into a riff on its own) and it sounded 10 times better. This wasn't even a good recording and the settings on the amp weren't altered at all for that song, not to say it was bad, but not as good as it could've been.

Moral of the story(I'll sum it up because I didn't paragraph), is that bassists can multiply a bands sound.

the bass is a rhythm instrument, so the fact that it's shadowing the guitar is good... as long as it's only accenting the bass drum... (eg play the same notes as the guitar but only play them when the bass drum is hit)

If you do that you can turn the bass up even more and you'll have a really big sound.


Actually now that i'm on topic of drum and bass, that's what the driving force of the band should be. Guitar and vocals are instruments of harmony and should be written not AFTER the drum and bass, but with it, you can still base a song around a "riff" or theme, but make sure that it's not the guitar driving the song. You guys should try that with one or two of your songs, when you're able to play through them with little or no mistake, spend a little money on recording in a studio i bet your next reaction from people on these forums will be a little bit better :thumb:

[Po0osH]

No.

rofllll niiiceee

All the critique has already been said. I suggest you take each bass string off your bass, and shove them up your ***. Not only do you guys suck, but you seriously depict the worse example of a "musician." Why? Because you guys seem like you don't practice enough, ok thats fine, but to constantly be arrogant about it only makes it worse. A good quality of a musician will take in criticism and improve upon it, hell that is how you get better a lot of the times. **** man, I think earlier in the thread you said you were like 20? Are you serious? You act like you are ****ing 9. Grow the **** up.

[Swill_Merchant]

If your music was 75% better, it would suck.

[experi_metal_v2]

http://www.soundclick.com/gclad

Got bored and remixed Split Colon I-III

[Mr Benners]

Ok... I seriously am lost for words at this. Once again you just present us with more "music" without taking any of our advice.

From what I can hear, it's just the old songs under some spastic plugins making it sound trashed/distorted/washy. At least it kinda drowns out the drums which means there is one less thing to complain about. On top of this, it sounds like you took the vocal line and ran it through a synthesiser (cant remember what it's called but there's one in the waves bundle) which is just repetitive.

I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish with showing us your music. You already know the response you'll get and we all know how you'll react. It's obvious that you very much like and are very fond of your music, so maybe it's in your best interest to just keep it to yourself until you can take some of our advice.

You got one thing right on this one - "Noise"

[cadencethefire]

i'll be posting a tutorial for micing techniques eqing etc pretty soon, maybe i'll post a plugin guide for pro tools too. maybe it'll help you with accomplishing a better mix