NFL season 2006

[beso negro]

hey remember when they replaced the field at gilette stadium with turf

:p Obviously Brady doesn't play in domes though

yea, thats a horrible excuse.

Manning is a better quarterback.

Brady just has had postseason luck.

You make your own luck.

If you're willing to take into account the deficiencies around Brady, then you should do the same for Manning and for Brees.

Ok, well let's see..............

they have none, on offense. It's stupid to call Brees the best QB in the nfl when he hasn't even done a thing in the playoffs.

[Liberi Fatali]

Ok, well let's see..............

they have none, on offense. It's stupid to call Brees the best QB in the nfl when he hasn't even done a thing in the playoffs.
We're talking entire team here, and yes they do have defficiencies on offense. And I never called Brees the best QB in the NFL.

[YDload]

well, for this year in particular it won't be Manning's fault when they lose in the playoffs again. assuming they DO lose and don't actually stop Larry Johnson and/or LT from cruising right through the defense.

[CombatRock]

Mannings the best QB as of right now, end of story.

[Ethan.]

If you ask me which quarterback I would want playing on my team, I'd take Brady. But it's close. The only reason I'd take Brady over Manning is because Brady is a proven winner.

you should stick to football instead of trying to wade into sociopolitlcal issues that you don't know anything about.

OK I'll admit that I don't know a lot about gangs, but don't tell me I don't know anything about them. Because thats not true. Sorry if I offended you you seem a bit ticked off about it.

[Rams]

Brady seems pretty banged up this year. He's no longer capable of throwing the deep ball, expecially considering the garbage he has at the WR position. A legit defense will be able to shut him down this post-season.

[beso negro]

Brady seems pretty banged up this year. He's no longer capable of throwing the deep ball, expecially considering the garbage he has at the WR position. A legit defense will be able to shut him down this post-season.

Actually no. Defenses play the deep ball against him. He then proceeds to pick apart the defense using short passes.

cite the week 16 game against the #2 D, Jacksonville. They desperately needed that game. But Brady picked them apart.

[Illmatic]

A legit defense will be able to shut him down this post-season.

the best defenses Brady would face (Baltimore and San Diego) are aggressive defenses, and good teams usually pick aggressive defenses apart.

If you're willing to take into account the deficiencies around Brady, then you should do the same for Manning and for Brees.

I'm accounting for Brady's inferior stats, which is hopefully the only reason anyone would actually consider Brees better. he has three good seasons and two playoff appearances under his belt, which you can say about a lot of quarterbacks.

I like to hold team success against a quarterback because generally the quarterback is considered the most important player on the team. this is true in Manning's case; the Colts almost never win when Manning has a bad game. and seeing as how everyone praises Manning for calling his own plays at the line, can't we then penalize him when the Colts have a bad game offensively?

He's no longer capable of throwing the deep ball, expecially considering the garbage he has at the WR position.

no longer capable? what is he, 36 years old?

[YDload]

Vince Young: Offensive Rookie of the Year. cool as hell.

[revolution1]

NFC
Wild Card Games: Dallas beats Seattle Philadelphia beats NY Giants
Divisionals: Chicago beats Dallas New Orleans beats Philadelphia
Conference: Chicago beats New Orleans
AFC
Wild Card: Indianapolis beats Kansas City New England beats NY Jets
Divisionals: New England beats San Diego Indianopolis beats Baltimore
Conference: New England beats Indianapolis

Super Bowl XLI: Chicago beats New England (If Griese starts)

[MattSharpIsCool]

no longer capable? what is he, 36 years old?

Damn you haven't been posting in this thread enough lately, you're getting rusty. Tom Brady's only 29.

Unless of course that's sarcastic, then I feel like a dipshit.

[Ethan.]

You dipshit.







;)

[Liberi Fatali]

Unless of course that's sarcastic, then I feel like a dipshit.
Haha, looks like Seth is the rusty one.

[MattSharpIsCool]

No I was just kidding, you're all foolish for thinking I was serious...

:upset:

[clairvoyant]

an interesting list...this is the final Week 17 list of Aikman's Efficiency Ratings

http://nfl.com/news/story/9905391
explained there^^

1 12-4 New England
2 14-2 San Diego
3 13-3 Baltimore
4 8-8 Jacksonville
5 13-3 Chicago
6 12-4 Indianapolis
7 10-6 Philadelphia
8 9-7 Dallas
9 10-6 New Orleans
10 9-7 Denver
11 8-8 Pittsburgh
12 6-10 Minnesota
13 8-8 St. Louis
14 9-7 Kansas City
15 8-8 Cincinnati
16 6-10 Miami
17 7-9 Atlanta
18 10-6 N.Y. Jets
19 8-8 N.Y. Giants
20 9-7 Seattle
21 8-8 Carolina
22 5-11 Arizona
23 5-11 Washington
24 8-8 Green Bay
25 6-10 Houston
26 7-9 Buffalo
27 8-8 Tennessee
28 7-9 San Francisco
29 3-13 Detroit
30 4-12 Cleveland
31 4-12 Tampa Bay
32 2-14 Oakland

[Illmatic]

I think Troy's been hit in the head one too many times.

[Rams]

It's a formula. What do you expect, true analysis?

[Ethan.]

WTF does it mean?

[MattSharpIsCool]

They take a bunch of stats and mix them together, then divide by pi or something and come up with an efficiency rating.

It's kind of like the QB rating, no one understands it, they just use it.

[Ethan.]

Oh I see. Kind of.

[beso negro]

At the bottom it says exactly how it is done

[CombatRock]

I think Troy's been hit in the head one too many times.

lol



:angry:

[Hababi]

Holy crap Kansas City's kicker blows. Seriously, he's terrible. Awful. He just missed a chipshot field goal, about 25 yards. What a loser.

[Liberi Fatali]

They're got a nice punter though. :)

[Ethan.]

Dang. Could anyone have predicted this game.

Colts defense shows up first time all year. LJ doesn't.
Peyton Manning screws up too many times, but Joseph Addai comes to the rescue.
Ty Law has about as many yards as the whole KC offense on ONE interception return.

Well, now the Cheifs offense is showing up.

[pikester]

Chiefs ftl :upset:

[griftadan]

the cowboys are playing with the defense they were predicted to have this season, excelent timing.

[Tillius]

This damn Cowboys vs. Seahawks game is making me nervous.

[griftadan]

i'm going to kill myself. i don't even know where to start about that game....

[clairvoyant]

GREAT game...I really thought Dallas was gonna end up with the win,.but the Seahawks pulled it off.

[Tillius]

What...the...****?
Seriously, what was up with that?
Who thinks Romo did it on purpose so he could be the hero and run it in for a touchdown?

[CombatRock]

if we wanted a quaterback to screw things up we would have kept Quincy Carter.

Thanks allot Romo

[Black Ink]

Ugh.

[Ethan.]

Romo to the rescue!

:lol:

I hate the Cowboys.

[Rams]

I think I've expressed my opinion of Romo enough.

The first half of that game may have been the worst football game I have ever seen. Seattle has a nack for playing ridiculously boring games it seems.

[myfingersareonfire]

I think I've expressed my opinion of Romo enough.

The first half of that game may have been the worst football game I have ever seen. Seattle has a nack for playing ridiculously boring games it seems.

See: last year's superbowl

[CaptainWaits]

All I care is that Seattle came up on top. I barely got to see the game though :(. I was at a party Saturday, and everyone was watching the Flames game....

[clairvoyant]

I think I've expressed my opinion of Romo enough.

The first half of that game may have been the worst football game I have ever seen. Seattle has a nack for playing ridiculously boring games it seems.

That game was anything but boring.

[apromisingyear]

It sucks that Romo ruined the hold. The snap was perfect.

I think it was just nerves. I'd be nervous too knowing that the hold is 1/3 of what could get out team the victory (the snap and kick are the other 2/3). I do appreciate his effort and alertness to pick up the ball and attempt to get in the endzone. If he would have lunged (sp??) forward he would have gotten the first down...instead the seattle player got him around the shin. The cowboys clearly out played seattle in my opinion.

Anyway...I seen cinci do the same thing. Cinci would have died denver but couldn't get the ball down.

The eagles/giants game was probably the most entertaining of the weekend...

the cheifs/colts game was a disaster performance for both teams. Who thought the chiefs/colts game would have been more a defensive show than an offensive one...manning had not 1, not 2, but 3 interceptions. Throwing 3 interceptions in a game shouldn't get your team the win. I support indy in trying to get to a superbowl because i seen the collapse last year against pittsburgh and i like what indy's offense is capable of but come on...

Jets/Patriots was good in the first 3/4 of the game...the rest was a 21 point advantage yawner. The Jets came out firing pretty well in the beginning and I thought they might be able to come away with the win (judging from the 1st half) Second half was a collaspe.

Anyway...

Who does everyone think will face each other in this years superbowl?

I think Chargers vs. Saints.

anyone agree?

[CombatRock]

I acctualy think Ravens have a preety good chance to make it.

Cowboys did outplay seattle, its a shame Romo had to ruin everything.

And who said that was a boring game, thats was preety good back and forth game.

[Tillius]

I thought it was a great game, I was just disappointed with the results.:(

[ihatemybass]

I think it's gonna be Chargers and Saints in the superbowl. If not i think the it might be the Colts year. But im rooting for the Chargers.

[Rams]

That game was anything but boring.

I said the first half was the worst football I have ever seen, not the entire game. The rest of the game was entertaining because of how bad the two teams were in blowing the game.

I'm going to enjoy the Chargers losing by double digits next week.

[Ethan.]

That Giants/Eagles game was really good.

The Giants should have won. They played A LOT better than anyone expected they would, but their defense totally fell apart when it mattered the most.

[beso negro]

Yea, Peyton sure proved why he was the best QB in the NFL.

[Ethan.]

:lol:
I knew after all those picks someone would bring up that argument again! haha

Well he actually had a great game minus the picks, but turnovers = losses in most cases, and the other numbers aren't gonna matter if he does it again this week.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Now watch him go 33-39 for 340 yards and 4 TD's this week.

[Ethan.]

Maybe. Even Jake Delhomme had a "career" day against the Ravens.

[clairvoyant]

Hmm...

Peyton Manning at Baltimore Ravens (Sept. 12, 2005)

21/36
254 YDS
2 TD


Peyton Manning vs. Baltimore Ravens (Dec. 19 2004)

20/33
249 YDS
1 TD


me being a Ravens fan, I'm not liking it at all :/

Both those games we never got any pressure on Manning, and therefore, he had fairly solid games.

[Liberi Fatali]

The last Ravens vs Colts game was fun to watch, well the Ravens D vs Colts O was.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the year Indy actually does something. They've been untouched the last few seasons, hence they crumbled in the playoffs. They actually got beat up a few times this season, which I think is a good thing. Makes them realize they really can lose games.

Or the team will choke again and lose.

[ThePatient]

Hmm...


me being a Ravens fan, I'm not liking it at all :/

Both those games we never got any pressure on Manning, and therefore, he had fairly solid games.

This defense is completely different from the defenses of the last few years. This group is fast and physical and has done very well against some of the top lines in the league like Kansas City and San Diego. The front four can get pressure by themselves when there's no blitz, the linebackers excel at both blitzing and coverages (see: Bart "Texas Pete" Scott and Adalius Thomas), and the secondary has come up with big plays from Reed, McAlister, and Rolle all the way down to Corey Ivy and Ronnie Prude.

The only thing that worries me against the Colts is the secondary's occasional susceptibility to the deep-ball (Samari, I'm looking at you). Other than that I think Peyton will be held in check to the point where it won't be up to him winning the game and they'll have to beat the Ravens another way.

Of course, McAlister will have his weekly pass-interference and 15 yard personal foul penalites, but it seems this year he's been able to limit himself to drawing bonehead penalties when it won't sink the team. God bless him.

And hopefully someone got the Texas Pete reference.

[apromisingyear]

That Giants/Eagles game was really good.
They played A LOT better than anyone expected they would, but their defense totally fell apart when it mattered the most.

i agree (minus the giants win...i dont like them all that much...but in a way they deserved it...like dallas deserved the win over seattle). the game was a LOT closer than i would have predicted. I expected a Philly beating to tell you the truth...i think the defense for NY was outstanding (considering all the key injuries). I give the defense a huge applause for forcing several philly 3 and outs...very impressive.

Yea, Peyton sure proved why he was the best QB in the NFL.

that game was truely pathetic...the chiefs and colts both sucked...i wouldn't have predicted 3 manning picks... (2 of them to ty law)...you would think if you watched this game in the first week of the season that each team would suck this year. i guess everyone has off days...but man...i dont remember seeing manning through 3 picks in one game. if the chiefs brought their a-game they would have won that one and be on their way to the ravens statium.

Either way im pulling for the colts because i believe manning does deserve to get further in the playoffs...they have had 2 great regular seasons...they just get nervous in playoff atmospheres i think.


turnovers = losses in most cases
thats absolutely right. the cardinals had the bears beat earlier this season (on MNF) with a 23-3 lead...they blew it though...

AND...

the bears/vikings game earlier this year when grossman had a rating of 1.3

but true 95% of the time the team with the least amount of turnovers wins...its just a fact of life...same in baseball...the team with the pitcher who makes the least amount of bad pitches wins the game...almost everything in life is like that...the least errors returns the best results...

[Ethan.]

I should definetly be a counselor. I have yet to choose a profession in life, yet I may have found my strong spot: don't f*cking turn it over.

[Ghostfire3]

****, this is such a close game between Seattle and my Chi-town Bears.

[Trevo]

Bears win! Damn 2-1 for my predictions.

[HNLzero]

Holy shat, what a game. Yay new England.

[apromisingyear]

damn i got all mine right except NE and SD.

That was a wild one...i dont like the fact NE won. i'm tired of hearing all the Tom Brady butt kissing that goes on in the NFL. I think the colts have a more than fair chance at beating them next week. They did it once already this year...who knows...im undecided so fair though.

Bear and Saints...that'll be a good one, good offense against good defense.

I think we can all agree however, each team (NE and SD) had MORE than enough chances to do something on turnovers, possible picks, possible fumble recoveries. Apparently NE won the turnover battle and won the game.

I think about this now, what if SD would have went for that field goal attempt (in the 1st quarter) instead of going for it (and failing) on 4th down. That decision (which i thought wasn't to significant at the time) became what could have put this game into overtime. I thought Marty was a little crazy to go for it but i thought, "its early in the game, lots of football to be played"...

either way...i made $60 bucks today...if SD would have won i would have made $120... oh well...

AT LEAST the playoff games are close and exciting to say the least...

[Matt?]

That decision (which i thought wasn't to significant at the time) became what could have put this game into overtime. I thought Marty was a little crazy to go for it but i thought, "its early in the game, lots of football to be played"...



Marty is a terrible coach and is notorious for making hilariously stupid choices in the postseason so that really wasn't that suprising.

[The Stig]

Most all of the teams I like at all are gone. I'd like to see Bears vs. Colts, but I don't know if that will happen. I will not watch a Pats vs. Saints Super Bowl.

[apromisingyear]

Marty is a terrible coach and is notorious for making hilariously stupid choices in the postseason so that really wasn't that suprising.

i kind of feel bad for marty though. He's come close before.

I think chargers just couldn't capitalize on some of NE's mistakes. Anyone remember that 1st quarter play where the SD defense had that ball tipped in the air and that guy had a clean easy shot at it and dropped it? that was sad.

This postseason seems like it was written as a storyline for a hollywood drama movie. It all started with the Seahawks/cowboys game with romo's missed hold. You also have the end of the giants/eagles game. Then we got the eagles/saints game with the reggie bush fumble and the eagles NEAR comback with 4th and long pass over the middle that was ignored due to a false start and then the punt and deuce's first down run that cemented the saints victory. You got the Bears dramatic overtime field goal that won the game. Then this afternoon you had the pats comback and a GREAT pass play for the chargers that put them in field goal range with a missed field goal in the last few seconds of the game.

pretty crazy postseason thus far. We can only wonder what next weeks games will bring? The 2 games next week should be just as close as most of these games with the endings results in a teams win by 3 or less.

Colts/Pats should be an offensive shootout.

Bears/saints will be most exciting when saints are on offense and bears on D and most nail-bitting when bears are on offense (you never know with Rex anymore). :lol:

[YDload]

i hate the patriots so much. i just want them to lose, is that so much to ask??
why does Marty Schottenheimer have to coach after December, anyway? i thought anything was possible once Bill Cowher won a trophy, but i guess you can't expect a reversal of post-season fortune from EVERY coach :(

[apromisingyear]

i hate the patriots so much. i just want them to lose, is that so much to ask??


I say DOWN WITH THE PATRIOTS...

All in favor say "I" all that oppose say "nay"...

[beso negro]

i like seeing the pats in the super bowl

[Liberi Fatali]

A superbowl with New England will be sooooo gay.

[Rams]

I love how no one is surprised that the Chargers lost. I guess all those "Looks like a Chargers-Saints Superbowl!" posts were a bit premature. Hopefully 'roid Merriman will be inspired and take a full dose this off-season and get really good.

[Liberi Fatali]

No one is surprised because I think everyone knew it'd be close.

[Ethan.]

I'm suprised. I underestimated the Patriots again...

I am soooo tired of hearing about the Patriots. I'm really starting to hate them a lot.
Another Patriots superbowl will be so gay. so gay. so gay.so gay.sogay

[loathed]

Hi you Americans =DD

I've just started to get into American football as of late (my local tv shows some games)...and it seems like such fun...

but baltimore screwed up against indiana >=(

but anyway, just wanted to drop by and say hi...cheers

[Zebra]

Damn. That Seahawks loss was depressing. :(

[Badmoon]

Damn. That Seahawks loss was depressing. :(


:lol: That was great. Benson and Thomas Jones were wreckin' sh*t up.

[[Nightbreak]]

3 reasons as to why the Chargers lost (order them as you will):

1. The Refs (Pass interference on final drive? Roughing passer on spike?)
2. Marlon McCree thinking that intercepting the pass on 4th down was better than spiking it to the ground
3. The punt returner being chicken and not turtling on the ball.

[YDload]

but for once, it wasn't schottenheimer's fault! just like if the bears were to lose in OT, it wouldn't have been grossman's problem as he played pretty well.

[HNLzero]

Throughout the whole game I thought NE was being dominated. I was surprised they won.

[Ethan.]

Hi you Americans =DD

I've just started to get into American football as of late (my local tv shows some games)...and it seems like such fun...

but baltimore screwed up against indiana >=(

but anyway, just wanted to drop by and say hi...cheers
Hi there. It's nice to see someone who comes by from another country that isn't ripping on how stupid American football is. Because, in fact, it is so much fun to play and watch.

[AnyColour74]

R.I.P. Eagles :(

[CityOfEvil]

I hoped that Eagles beat NE but it seems that Patriots will continue.

Just hope next team will beat them.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Throughout the whole game I thought NE was being dominated. I was surprised they won.

That's why the Patriot's three Super Bowl rings are so important.

However, I think the Colts will finally beat them next week.

[apromisingyear]

I think the Colts will finally beat them next week.

123.

I'm sure of that pick but im not too sure on the saints/bears...that seems it could go either way.

the bears saints game seems to be the makings of a great one.

you got the saints who have the top rated offense in most categories vs the bears who are rated one in most of the top rated defensive categories. sounds great to me.

I think the Saints wont be able to run the ball too much because i think lovie smith and crew are counting on deuce to have the ball 2 dozen or so times. maybe payton knows the same thing and will attempt a nice deep ball pass to open the saints first drive...who knows.

what went wrong in SD though (in my opinion) is the let up with LT. They only gave him the ball 9 times in the second half. They should have put the second half mainly on the shoulders of LT and Neal. They would have torn NE up. They simply couldn't stop the run. So what do they do...go with the pass. pretty ignorant decision on the offensive cordinator's part.

remember, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[Rams]

Bears defense has been less than stellar lately. Why must no one get this?

[YDload]

what went wrong in SD though (in my opinion) is the let up with LT. They only gave him the ball 9 times in the second half. They should have put the second half mainly on the shoulders of LT and Neal. They would have torn NE up. They simply couldn't stop the run. So what do they do...go with the pass. pretty ignorant decision on the offensive cordinator's part.

remember, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

okay, i guess it WAS marty's fault after all.

anyway i want the colts to win so badly next week, but all the logic in the world says it's just gonna be business as usual :(

[apromisingyear]

okay, i guess it WAS marty's fault after all.

anyway i want the colts to win so badly next week, but all the logic in the world says it's just gonna be business as usual :(

if it makes you feel better...

A) marty doesn't call offensive or defensive plays...he just does game management (so its not completely his fault...he put faith in his offensive cordinator..he's an idiot as well then)

B) the colts are 3 point favorites...so yeah. besides...i hate, hate, hate the pats. im going to be pulling for indy... :)

I could care less who wins between no and chi. i like both pretty equally. I think NO is a tad bit more deserving....Chi hasn't been consistent with Rex so yeah...either way

[[Nightbreak]]

Hi there. It's nice to see someone who comes by from another country that isn't ripping on how stupid American football is. Because, in fact, it is so much fun to play and watch.

Hi, I'm English and I actually play!

[Ethan.]

Sweet.

I'm looking forward to a Saints/Colts SB!

[Liberi Fatali]

But who will Archie Manning cheer for then?!?

[Ethan.]

But who will Archie Manning cheer for then?!?
:amaze:

I dunno. I'll go ask.

[Badmoon]

Bears defense has been less than stellar lately. Why must no one get this?

This is terribly obvious, and it pisses me off; same with Devin Hester.

but none the less, were takin this one.

[apromisingyear]

according to the lines...

they predict a colts/bears superbowl...

dont know about that one...saints have a fairly good chance...

[YDload]

they predicted a colts/bears super bowl last year on Inside the NFL. maybe THIS will finally be the year.

i remember before this season, ESPN predicted a Panthers/Pats Super Bowl.

[Muisee]

It's refreshing not to see a bunch of Patriot bandwagers on this board, like I see on so many others (everyone knows Pats fans are the 2nd most annoying type of fan right behind Leaf fans :) ). I really want to see Manning win it all, but my gut says they will lose, again (which is terrible to think, what self-respecting football fan wants to see the Pats in the SB this year?). Saints I feel will take advantage of Da Bears over-rated D and win a tight game, but won't be a match for however makes it to the show.

:chug: Go Colts, please God, go Colts. :smash:

[MattSharpIsCool]

I don't like the Patriots, but I've finally swallowed my pride and given them the respect they deserve. They're a good football team. There, I said it.

[EinzingerIsGod]

They're a good football team. There, I said it.

Damn straight they are.

[apromisingyear]

I don't like the Patriots, but I've finally swallowed my pride and given them the respect they deserve. They're a good football team. There, I said it.

Damn straight they are.

Good, yes.

Overrated & beat their legacy to death, yes.

The Patriots are one of the better teams in the National Football Leauge but, their success and legacy is something most (unless your a Patriots fan) people are tired of hearing about and seeing in playoff games.

I usually (there are a few exceptions) hate the team that wins the superbowl the next season because they get talked about so much and beefed up so much in the eyes of the announcers and the media that it gets old real fast.

I will give credit though. They have been very successful in the past 5 years. I applaud the staff for getting great talent and keeping it there. This however, in NO WAY should be mistaken for me wanting to see them in the playoffs any longer for at least the next 3 seasons.

EDIT: Another thing I hate is how Tom Brady gets pumped up by the media referring to him as the greatest quaterback of the last 3 seasons. What about some of the other great quaterbacks? (ie. P. Manning, D. Brees, T. Romo, etc.) Yeah i know romo blew the hold but that says nothing about his QB skills.

I think its funny, they always pump up Tom & company when they're doing good but what about when they lose? then its silent. Then its almost like the patriots dont exist that week in football.

What about in the beginning of the season (i think it was week 1) when the Patriots played the Bills at home and Tom was beat up with sacks. What about the opening patriots drive where tom was sacked and the ball came out and was returned for a TD. The bills nearly stole that one. Then tom is called great for his "comeback". Its just BS that everytime I turn on a NFL broadcast all you hear is how great the Patriots are.

anyway...

what teams does everyone think are on the verge of becoming great in the next few seasons?

I personally think the Bills, 49ers, Lions, and Titans are on their way to having much better seasons...

[YDload]

i know the patriots are a good team. so are the yankees. doesn't mean i can't hate them (and i can acknowledge it's partly out of jealousy too :()

[Liberi Fatali]

And combine that with the fact that they're playing the Colts this weekend, and it makes for an unbearable week leading up to the game.

[apromisingyear]

And combine that with the fact that they're playing the Colts this weekend, and it makes for an unbearable week leading up to the game.

yeah, im really excited about the games this week...

im hoping for a colt victory...i just dont know who to root for with NO vs. Chi
because i like them both equally.

colt/saints or colts/bears will be a good superbowl for me...just not patriots...please god, no patriots.

[Zakath]

The Patriots aren't that great, if they had played even somewhat good last week it would have been a complete pwnage of the incompetent Chargers.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Tony Romo, a great quarterback? Come on now. The guys played about 10 games in his career, and only half of them have been good, if that.

I'm really starting to cool a bit towards the NFL because of the idiots who cover it. It's become so huge, and there are "experts" everywhere who all think they're so much more important than they really are. Thats why teams like the Patriots get hyped up so much to annoying proportions.

You cant even watch the games themselves without being bombarded by these retards and their opinions.

[ihatemybass]

Good, yes.
I personally think the Bills, 49ers, Lions, and Titans are on their way to having much better seasons...

49ers, Titans sure. Bills maybe. Lions nope.

[MattSharpIsCool]

I think once the Raiders get a little offense they'll be pretty good.

[Liberi Fatali]

Tony Romo, a great quarterback? Come on now. The guys played about 10 games in his career, and only half of them have been good, if that.

I'm really starting to cool a bit towards the NFL because of the idiots who cover it. It's become so huge, and there are "experts" everywhere who all think they're so much more important than they really are. Thats why teams like the Patriots get hyped up so much to annoying proportions.

You cant even watch the games themselves without being bombarded by these retards and their opinions.
I saw an analyst the other day asked whether he'd rather have Rex Grossman or Peyton Manning leading his team this upcoming weekend, and he said Rex Grossman. :lol:

[Rams]

I'm really starting to cool a bit towards the NFL because of the idiots who cover it. It's become so huge, and there are "experts" everywhere who all think they're so much more important than they really are. Thats why teams like the Patriots get hyped up so much to annoying proportions.

But how else will you know how T.O.'s attitude affects Rex Grossman's psyche preventing him to play quarterback well for the MAN-genius and Sean Payton (who with the help of Reggie Bush completely rebuilt the city of New Orleans) yearning for the intangibles of the Patriots? After all, doesn't Vince Young just win football games?

The experts are bad. But really, to single out and complain just about their coverage of the Patriots is crappy too.


I'm taking Grossman to have the best QB play this week. He's going up against a powder puff secondary and throws one of the best deep balls out there.

[[Nightbreak]]

I'm taking Grossman to have the best QB play this week. He's going up against a powder puff secondary and throws one of the best deep balls out there.

Pfft. I bet Mike McKenzie intercepts him for a TD. At least once.

[Ethan.]

I don't understand why Tony Romo is being considered such a great QB by some people.

To me, he hasn't really proven much.

I'd say he's pretty good, but not great. And sure, he did come off the bench and lead the team on a wonderful run, but so did Jake Delhomme a few years ago. I think Jake Delhomme had an even better "coming out" party than Romo, but he is far from a great quarterback.

Give him a couple of years and if he keeps playing well consistently, then I might classify him as great. But now, good is a good word to describe him.

[apromisingyear]

I don't understand why Tony Romo is being considered such a great QB by some people.

To me, he hasn't really proven much.

I'd say he's pretty good, but not great. And sure, he did come off the bench and lead the team on a wonderful run, but so did Jake Delhomme a few years ago. I think Jake Delhomme had an even better "coming out" party than Romo, but he is far from a great quarterback.

Give him a couple of years and if he keeps playing well consistently, then I might classify him as great. But now, good is a good word to describe him.

true...

i should say, he's had a good start to his career (minus the blown hold in Seattle). I think he's good for coming off the bench (never starting a game in his career) and then playing as well as he did is a great thing...that usually doesn't work like that in most situations. Like walter on the raiders, he sucked worse than brooks (imo). So did the Smith and Rattay QB changes in San Fran the other year.

[ihatemybass]

So no Pick em this week?

[HNLzero]

heh

gg peyton

[MattSharpIsCool]

So how about Peyton Manning bringing his team back from 18 points down and beating the Patriots?

[Ethan.]

That was great.

I quit watching a little bit cause it was boring. Then later in the second half I started watching and I was like "Holy **** how are the Colts still in it!?"

It was a really good game.

[Rams]

Hey everyone, does the Chargers v Saints superbowl still look really probable?

Yeah, the Colts played really well and Manning made some absolutely impossible throws. He played with his usually playoffs happy feet, but he'd been doing it all year that he started making his passes hit his recievers, not the opponents. I am predicting the Bears will tear them apart though. Their run game + Grossman over the top against their defense looks like a return of the Manning face.


Maybe this will convince my Patriots to finally hire a wide receiver. Will be fun when they inexplicably let Asante Samuel go next year because "well, he's a good player but not a good enough player to warrant that much money."

[CaptainWaits]

Damn!

These are the two teams I didn't want to be playing in the superbowl from the start. I don't even think I'll have any interest in watching it?? I'm not so sure it will make for a good game either...

[YDload]

i'm sooooo glad the patriots lost. but i'm also glad that manning won, cause he at least deserves to GO to a Super Bowl.

[Syncratic]

I don't like Peyton, but meh.

Not sure how I'm feeling right now about Mike Tomlin, the new Steelers head coach. It seems a pretty random deal, but I bet the Rooneys know what they're doing, so we'll have to see how this plays out.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Give it another week and some of us might be getting calls from Al Davis about the Raiders coaching job.

[YDload]

I don't like Peyton, but meh.

Not sure how I'm feeling right now about Mike Tomlin, the new Steelers head coach. It seems a pretty random deal, but I bet the Rooneys know what they're doing, so we'll have to see how this plays out.

i thought the Steelers had a good run defense, but i guess the Vikings were doing even better (and would have had some sort of record if Stephen Jackson didn't run all over them in the last game). so theoretically, making Minnesota's defensive coordinator the new head coach should strenghten that defense even better!

i just hope he doesnt switch out of the 3-4 defense. i like it :(

[Syncratic]

I do too...I also hope it isn't Porter's last year as well...I enjoyed his antics and his playing.

And now that you put it that way, having Dick LaBeau and Tomlin will add up to a solid defense come next fall. Hopefully some new corners as well.

[Rams]

And now that you put it that way, having Dick LaBeau and Tomlin will add up to a solid defense come next fall. Hopefully some new corners as well.

What position do Labeau and Tomlin play? Oh right, they are coaches. They can't tackle anyone. The players make something solid, not the coaches.

[MattSharpIsCool]

So Schottenheimer was fired. Most of you probably already know this, and it's not like it was a surprise.

Any clues on who the Chargers are looking to replace him with?

[[Nightbreak]]

Cowher would be nice :)

[Hababi]

Ok I really don't get firing Marty now. I mean, if you're disappointed about his choking in the playoffs, then fire him earlier, when you could still promote one of your coordinators. Now you have new coordinators and must find a new coach.

[Liberi Fatali]

;14195117']Cowher would be nice :)Cowher is friends with Marty though.

[[Nightbreak]]

And Marty will know why he's been fired: Because he's got the best squad in the NFL and sucks in the post season.

[ChodaBoy]

They must have someone in mind to replace him soon, firing him a month after they lose to the Pats is a strange time to offload. All of these main position changes cant be good for the team overall either

[YDload]

;14195117']Cowher would be nice :)

3-4 defense, likes to run the ball a lot, only took him slightly less time to finally win a Super Bowl...

it's almost TOO perfect :evil:

[beso negro]

Cower is going to take a year off atleast

[YDload]

maybe the chargers will just take a year off too so they can be in prime position to get him when he decides to come back!

[IsItLuck?]

as a chargers fan, I was shocked about marty...I hope they hire Ron Rivera.

[MattSharpIsCool]

3-4 defense, likes to run the ball a lot, only took him slightly less time to finally win a Super Bowl...

it's almost TOO perfect :evil:

Except Schottenheimer never even made it to a Super Bowl.

He wasn't even fired for losing this season. Well I'm sure it played a part, but he didn't get along with the GM, and hasnt for a few years now. Anytime something like that comes up, the coach is going to be gone.

Plus, ya, he lost.

[Liberi Fatali]

Except Schottenheimer never even made it to a Super Bowl.

He wasn't even fired for losing this season. Well I'm sure it played a part, but he didn't get along with the GM, and hasnt for a few years now. Anytime something like that comes up, the coach is going to be gone.

Plus, ya, he lost.
Yeah, losing in the playoffs had nothing to do with it. His relationship with AJ Smith the GM reached boiling point, with the two clashing heads regarding their staff. Apparently Marty rejected Smith's recommended candidate, and wanted to hire his brother as defensive coordinator.

My guess is they'll hire AJ Smith's recommended candidate for DC, Ted Cotrell. Then hire an offensive guy as HC, maybe Norv Turner or Mike Martz.

So far they've received permission to speak to Chicago DC Ron Rivera, 49ers OC Norv Turner and Jim Mora Jr.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Jim Mora Jr. would probably work out better in San Diego than he did in Atlanta, but I'm not sure any of those guys are a great choice.

[[Nightbreak]]

Jim Mora Jr is IMO the worst coach in the NFL. I'd rather have AJ Smith at GM than keeping Marty, as the personnel decisions that guy's made in getting players/getting rid of players have been awesome.

Having Chicago's DC would suck, as Chicago's D is mainly about the run, which the Chargers are fine on. Their secondary ain't so hot though. 49ers' OC could work out fine, because he'd have the HB that Frank Gore so obviously wants to be, and a QB many times better than Alex Smith.

[Hababi]

Rivera is pretty mediocre imo. His schemes are nothing special and he has a huge amount of talent to work with.

[MattSharpIsCool]

;14202323']Jim Mora Jr is IMO the worst coach in the NFL. I'd rather have AJ Smith at GM than keeping Marty, as the personnel decisions that guy's made in getting players/getting rid of players have been awesome.

Having Chicago's DC would suck, as Chicago's D is mainly about the run, which the Chargers are fine on. Their secondary ain't so hot though. 49ers' OC could work out fine, because he'd have the HB that Frank Gore so obviously wants to be, and a QB many times better than Alex Smith.

Norv Turner would be a bad idea for a head coach.

Take it from a Raiders fan.

[Ethan.]

Having Chicago's DC would suck, as Chicago's D is mainly about the run, which the Chargers are fine on. Their secondary ain't so hot though.
Hey don't you guys have Marlon McCree? I remember when he played for the Panthers one season... he used to make some wild hits man! I loved that guys. But I dunno about his pass coverage skills.

[Hababi]

Norv Turner would be a bad idea for a head coach.

Take it from a Raiders fan.

He's a good OC though, I mean, he turned Alex Smith into a halfway decent QB!:p

[[Nightbreak]]

Hey don't you guys have Marlon McCree? I remember when he played for the Panthers one season... he used to make some wild hits man! I loved that guys. But I dunno about his pass coverage skills.

One free safety means round about nothing when his pass coverage ain't great, the SS sucks, you've only got one better than average CB (and he's getting old).

They drafted Cromartie last year in the first round, when he's ready (assuming no bust) Jammer will retire. The only thing good about the SD Pass D is Donnie Edwards' great coverage and reading skills, and the pass rush.

I saw a rumour about the Colts Assistant Head Coach going to the Bolts. That'd kick arse!

[Rams]

;14202323']Jim Mora Jr is IMO the worst coach in the NFL. I'd rather have AJ Smith at GM than keeping Marty, as the personnel decisions that guy's made in getting players/getting rid of players have been awesome.

Having Chicago's DC would suck, as Chicago's D is mainly about the run, which the Chargers are fine on. Their secondary ain't so hot though. 49ers' OC could work out fine, because he'd have the HB that Frank Gore so obviously wants to be, and a QB many times better than Alex Smith.

You don't know enough bad coaches then. You should have been a Patriots fan three years ago. We had 6 games against Herm Edwards, Dave Wanstedt, and Greg Williams/Mike Malarky (honestly can't remember which one, but does it matter?). 6 easy games no matter how stacked their teams were. Mike Tice, Marty Morninwheg, Mike McCarthy, and Dick Jauron was another one of those elite coached divisions a couple years ago.

Herm Edwards has to be the worst of all time. The guy doesn't call offensive plays. Doesn't call defensive plays. Doesn't call special team plays. Doesn't pick the packages. Yet, he still manages to blow 3-4 games a year. It's incredible.

Norv Turner is an atrocious coach.

[Ethan.]

;14205610']One free safety means round about nothing when his pass coverage ain't great, the SS sucks, you've only got one better than average CB (and he's getting old).

They drafted Cromartie last year in the first round, when he's ready (assuming no bust) Jammer will retire. The only thing good about the SD Pass D is Donnie Edwards' great coverage and reading skills, and the pass rush.

I saw a rumour about the Colts Assistant Head Coach going to the Bolts. That'd kick arse!

Well he played SS over here. I really don't know about his pass coverage skills. Are they any good? If they aren't that must be why the Panthers got rid of him.

[MattSharpIsCool]

;14205610']One free safety means round about nothing when his pass coverage ain't great, the SS sucks, you've only got one better than average CB (and he's getting old).

They drafted Cromartie last year in the first round, when he's ready (assuming no bust) Jammer will retire. The only thing good about the SD Pass D is Donnie Edwards' great coverage and reading skills, and the pass rush.

I saw a rumour about the Colts Assistant Head Coach going to the Bolts. That'd kick arse!

Quentin Jammer can't be much more than 26 or 27 years old, can he? They only drafted him a few years ago. Why would he retire?

[[Nightbreak]]

Quentin Jammer can't be much more than 26 or 27 years old, can he? They only drafted him a few years ago. Why would he retire?

I'm sure he's older than that

/checks wikipedia

He's 27. Fair enough.

[ThePatient]

The Chargers would be making a big mistake if they don't bring on Rex Ryan as their coach. He would turn the talent of that defense into the best defense in the league. Of course, I pray that they don't, but it'd be the best thing for them.

Next to him, Donnie Henderson or Mike Singletary would be great choices for them. Both of them could work wonders with that defense, and run that offense just fine.

[MattSharpIsCool]

If the Chargers get Rex Ryan, there will be two Ryan's coaching in the AFC West. That would be insane.

[CombatRock]

;14195117']Cowher would be nice :)


Cowher, will be in Dallas in a couple of years when Wade Phillips does nothing.

[YDload]

yes, and then he will take the Cowboys to the Super Bowl only to have them lose to... the Steelers.

Revenge >:-}

(and its not like Cowher can't blow a big game either. just wait its gonna be awesome)

[Liberi Fatali]

Cowher, will be in Dallas in a couple of years when Wade Phillips does nothing.
So you're saying the Cowboys won't win the superbowl in the next 2 years?

/writes them off

[beso negro]

So Turner is getting his third chance as a head coach

[IsItLuck?]

Turner has a better playoff record that Marty :)
.500 :)

[CombatRock]

So you're saying the Cowboys won't win the superbowl in the next 2 years?

/writes them off

I dont know, with the talent they have, they should win.
Pill Parcells sucked at coaching last years team (he was good other years).

He did not take advantage of the weapons we had.
Hopefully Wes Phillips is more agressive on both sides of the ball.

[Liberi Fatali]

I dont know, with the talent they have, they should win.
:lol:

[[Nightbreak]]

Ah well, would rather have had Rex Ryan or Mike Singletary.

[Liberi Fatali]

And in a surprising move, the Chargers have hired Bears DC Ron Rivera to coach their linebackers. Seems like he is making backward progress after having 9 head coach interviews over the last 2 years, but I guess his goal is one step back then two steps forward.

[beso negro]

Smart move by Rivera. Once Turner gets fired, the Chargers will have to give Rivera the head coaching job.

[Hababi]

Talk about a backward move...maybe he just really likes the weather in San Diego...

[Rams]

After all those years with the Bears, he probably doesn't realize there is a difference between line backers coach and offensive coordinator.

[YDload]

plus San Diego has FOUR linebackers and Chicago only has three.

maybe he's dumb and thinks that makes it a better job!

[Erratic]

Ugh, Dominic Rhodes got a DUI.

[MattSharpIsCool]

That guy is an idiot. He had the chance to make huge bucks as a free agent after how he played in the Super Bowl, and then he does that.

[CombatRock]

They released him right?

Joey Porter got released. I would love if the Cowboys picked him up.

[Syncratic]

****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why!?!?!?!?!

Why'd they let him go? I loved watching Joey play for the Steelers. I hate this so much.

[Trevo]

Jake Plummer might retire. Jeff Garcia must be happy, he's looking to go to Tampa or Denver. Plummer is either going to stay in Denver or Tampa has offered him.

[CombatRock]

****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why!?!?!?!?!

Why'd they let him go? I loved watching Joey play for the Steelers. I hate this so much.

I dont know, he was an outstanding player. I guess it was contract disputes?

[ThePatient]

I laughed when the Steelers cut Joey Porter, then 24 hours later the Ravens lose 2 really good players. Mughelli is going to be great in Atlanta, the Ravens should've pushed harder to get something done with him, though that is a huge deal he signed for a FB. And Pashos guessed right and got his big contract elsewhere. He's not worth what he signed for, but he still a good RT, he's just gotten too big for his britches.

[beso negro]

i don't know why everyone was so surprised about the Porter release. Porter was an idiot and a distraction. The Steelers have never been known to keep people like that.

[CombatRock]

Well he would fit right in with the Cowboys then.

[YDload]

Porter was a really good player, but I think his career has hit its peak (which coincided with a Super Bowl win last year). Plus he's one of those asshole players who likes to trash talk, but now I won't have to defend him because he's not playing for my team anymore!

I hope the Steelers draft Posluzny, that would be cool.

[Hababi]

He won't go that high. If they can trade down and get a few more mid round picks it'll be worth it.

[Trevo]

I hope the Steelers draft Posluzny, that would be cool.

I would love to see him in a Steelers uniform.

[YDload]

i dont even know who the Steelers need anymore. defensive backs? now linebackers?

oh well, Tomlin was the DC for a team that led the league in rush defense, and the Steelers haven't allowed a 100-yard rusher in over a year. i'm sure they'll figure out what'll work.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Jake Plummer has officially retired. Ho-hum.

[EinzingerIsGod]

Pats picked up Adalius Thomas. I'm liking this move.

[Hababi]

i dont even know who the Steelers need anymore. defensive backs? now linebackers?

oh well, Tomlin was the DC for a team that led the league in rush defense, and the Steelers haven't allowed a 100-yard rusher in over a year. i'm sure they'll figure out what'll work.

LB. Preferably someone who can play DE or LB, like Merriman.

The 49ers really overpaid for Nate Clements. A very good, but not great CB, who probably won't even be the best defensive player on the team.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Teams have a habit of overpaying for cornerbacks. Be it free agency or the draft, where fifth rounders get taken in the first round.

Nate Clements is one of the better CB's in the league though.

[Hababi]

He'll be a good player for them, and a good #1 corner, but $80 million?????????? Eek.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Thomas Jones and a second round pick to the Jets for the Jets second round pick. That sounds like an awful trade on Chicago's behalf to me. Jones has had over 2,500 yards the last two seasons.

[pikester]

I would think that Chicago could've moved up a lot farther than that for Thomas Jones. I'm not sure where NYJ was picking, but they made they playoffs this year, so it couldn't be all that early. Although I guess it's slightly better than straight up releasing him.

[[Nightbreak]]

Depends if the 49ers DB coach can make Clements better.

[Muisee]

"Pats picked up Adalius Thomas. I'm liking this move."

And paid too much for the guy. That seems like a theme for the pats this year, they want so bad to become what they once were, not going to happen. Down with the Pats and Bears in '07.

[Hababi]

Thomas Jones and a second round pick to the Jets for the Jets second round pick. That sounds like an awful trade on Chicago's behalf to me. Jones has had over 2,500 yards the last two seasons.

Depends on whether Jones was alternately going to be released or not. If he was gone anyway, getting at least a little bit out of it is something. Otherwise yeah it's very blunderheaded.

[Ethan.]

Wow pretty interesting offseason so far...

I wish the panthers would get involved once in a while. Their whole executive staff is so conservative its almost pussy. I mean the biggest thing they did in the past like 4 offseasons was sign Keyshawn Johnson I think?

[Illmatic]

Thomas Jones and a second round pick to the Jets for the Jets second round pick. That sounds like an awful trade on Chicago's behalf to me. Jones has had over 2,500 yards the last two seasons.

Thomas Jones is good, but nowadays getting 1200 yards from a feature back isn't rare. That, and he's 28, so he's not going to get any better than he is now. it's definitely a buyer's market for running backs, so I doubt the Bears could have gotten much more than that for him.

[Jawaharal]

Hmmm Titans lost Bennet and Henry. Not good especially since Bennet was the go to receiver.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Thomas Jones is good, but nowadays getting 1200 yards from a feature back isn't rare. That, and he's 28, so he's not going to get any better than he is now. it's definitely a buyer's market for running backs, so I doubt the Bears could have gotten much more than that for him.

Ya that's true. I'm also not sure if he was due to be released like some people have brought up, which could be the case. If that's true, then ya I suppose it's good to at least get something back for him.

The thing that got me though, was Chicago threw in their second round pick also. It just seems like a second rounder and a solid starting running back with at least 2 or 3 years left should warrant more than that.

The NFL can get pretty confusing with the salary cap and all of that.

[CombatRock]

Porter to Dolphins.

They will have a good defenense this year.

[[Nightbreak]]

That dodgy green's gonna cramp his style. He won't look mean anymore, either.

[ThePatient]

I think the Bears overpaid a little giving up there 2nd rounder as well, it shouldn't have been anything more than a 4th.

I'm beginning to worry about who will be in the Ravens backfield in 2007. Mike Anderson isn't a full-time back, neither is Musa Smith, and the 3rd stringer P.J. Daniels was drafted to be the next Chester Taylor, but I really doubt it.

I do like McGahee though. He's quick, which would be a nice change for this team, and he's powerful enough to run inside. Much like a young Jamal. I do not like Corey Dillon. No, not at all. Keep him out of Baltimore.

--The Ravens just released Edwin Mulitalo. That could push Ogden closer to retirement...

[MattSharpIsCool]

They could give Anderson the bulk of the carries, and pepper in some Musa Smith. Only problem is they're pretty much the same back.

McGahee may be good, but I would never want him on my team. He's just another typical Miami Hurricane. Lots of talk, lots of underachieving.

[beso negro]

He'll be a good player for them, and a good #1 corner, but $80 million?????????? Eek.

well the salary cap keeps going up and up. So teams, large market teams especially, no longer feel the need to be thrifty.

[ThePatient]

McGahee may be good, but I would never want him on my team. He's just another typical Miami Hurricane. Lots of talk, lots of underachieving.

If there's a team that can handle Miami Hurricanes and certifiable headcases, it is the Ravens. Ed Reed and Ray Lewis from the U, and McAlister who is completely nuts have all been kept in line more or less (not counting the '05 season, that was a mess).


I like the trade for McGahee as long as he stays healthy, and Ogden doesn't retire. If Ogden retires, then those mid-round picks in '07 and '08 will come back to haunt us. We're down to picks only in the 1,2,5,6 rounds of this year's draft. Ozzie Newsome better work his magic again and find some diamonds in those rounds.