Satyricon's Now Diabolical

[bluewizard]

Satyricon's Now Diabolical has come out recently and I like the 2 songs i've heard off it called K.I.N.G. and As The Pentagram Burns, I'm thinking about getting this album, what do you think of this album? Do you consider it black metal?

[Lord Abortion]

It's crap, actually.

Satyricon used to be pretty good, but this new album sucks.

[AA-12]

It's crap, actually.

Satyricon used to be pretty good, but this new album sucks.
Yep.

[Cocaine]

Piss poor, for serious.

[i am the robots]

I have yet to hear it, so I can't really judge it.

Most older black metal bands suck now though, yet somehow Mayhem actually became decent finally.

[Lord Abortion]

Mayhem are still good, they just are a quite different kind of good from what they used to be.

[Cocaine]

On the topic, I've heard this called "Black N Roll". I guess that's true, but it still sucks.

[AA-12]

I can't bother with new Mayhem at all.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, it's like Later Entombed is Death N' Roll.

It sucks.

[i am the robots]

I like Entombed's "Death N' Roll"

It's fun.

[Cocaine]

I like Entombed's "Death N' Roll"

It's fun.
Me too, but this **** sucks.

[Lord Abortion]

There you go then, it may work for death metal, but Black metal is not supposed to be fun in any way, shape or form.

[AA-12]

Exactly, once again Ollie :)

[Kage]

On the topic, I've heard this called "Black N Roll". I guess that's true, but it still sucks.
That name seems to remind me of a black people making rock n roll rather than black metal rock n roll.

[Nepenthe]

Death N Roll can be really cool, point in case new Entombed and Ablaze My Sorrow's Heartless, but I couldn't see Black N Roll ever being too good. Though Zemial and Ophthalamia are both very good, but I don't think they'd be considered 'Black N Roll'.

I've yet to hear this album though. I actually kind of liked Volcano. It was weird, it was kind of boring, but I thought it was decent.

[i am the robots]

There you go then, it may work for death metal, but Black metal is not supposed to be fun in any way, shape or form.

The new Darkthrone is hilarious!

[AA-12]

Hilariously good.

[i am the robots]

I agree, I love it.

I've said it before, as have they, it's like, "black metal," Crass.

[Cocaine]

I agree, I love it.

I've said it before, as have they, it's like, "black metal," Crass.
Crass kind of suck *** though.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I got the new Darkthrone from the library :cool:

[AA-12]

What the ****

[Apocalyptic Raids]

My library rules. Over the 6 months I've got from there:

Bloodbath
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden
Pink Floyd
Death
Coroner
Nile
Opeth
Black Sabbath
Public Enemy
Obituary
Children of Bodom
AC/DC
Guns N Roses

and more I can't recall

[AA-12]

My comment was aimed at Cocaine btw

Good library though

[Nepenthe]

That's one metal library.

[lionelhutz88]

It isn't as good as Nemisis Devina.

[Nepenthe]

Which isn't as good as Dark Medieval Times.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

My comment was aimed at Cocaine btw

Good library though
Damn page change.

[MRDuCran]

I actually love KING.

I'm not a fan of "real" black metal so their old stuff doesn't really appeal to me but this is more accessible so I like it. There's a few others I like too but I can't be bothered to look up song titles.

[bluewizard]

I'm either gonna get this or Emperor's Prometheus, which one would you suggest? Both albums have songs I like like Prometheus has Wordless Chamber and Empty, love that video.

[Cocaine]

I'm either gonna get this or Emperor's Prometheus, which one would you suggest? Both albums have songs I like like Prometheus has Wordless Chamber and Empty, love that video.
Prometheus.

[pate]

*pulls out flame shield*

I think Now, Diabolical is okay, in a totally non-black metal way.

[ArcLite]

*pulls out flame shield*

I think Now, Diabolical is okay, in a totally non-black metal way.

Same. I do actually enjoy the album. King and Now Diabolical are pretty catchy (catchy?....black metal band?). However, I would in no way call this black metal, obviously.

[hollowpainting]

Darkthrone is awful. It's so noisy and crap.

Ehh. This album is alright. It's lack of variety is the downfall.

[Benzum]

The new Darkthrone is hilarious!

Too Old, Too Cold was an appauling song
could of done so much better
and the lyrics suck :(

Darkthrone are hypnotic on Soulside Journey and TH, the rest takes an age to understand properly

[pate]

Darkthrone is awful. It's so noisy and crap.


Darkthrone is so much better than you.

[superpeer]

I heard a couple of tracks on Launch Cast, it's boring.


Darkthrone is awful. It's so noisy and crap.

Darkthrone rule.

[Huber]

I like Satyricon's newer stuff, but this album drags. You'll listen to a couple songs and want to change it.

[Ve Das]

Satyricon were lame when they started and haven´t gotten any better over the years...

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I've never been a huge fan either. I did see this album at the library today, I didn't really bother picking it up, though.

[superpeer]

Their old stuff is great.

[Flesh Crawl]

Mediocre is an understatement. The album was utter rubbish and sub par in my opinion. Satyricon USED to be good, but now theyre just producing radio-friendly rubbish.

[Lord Abortion]

Mediocre is an understatement. The album was utter rubbish and sub par in my opinion. Satyricon USED to be good, but now theyre just producing radio-friendly rubbish.
Aye, that's true right enough.

Commercial music automatically makes them not Black Metal.

[Flesh Crawl]

I think its partly their labels fault as well. In trying to make them more accessible and to gain more fans, theyve watered down the music considerably

[ATC]

I like Now,Diabolical. I've always liked Satyricon. They've evolved as a band, good for them.

As for their label, isn't most Satyricon on Moonfog anyway? That's Satyr's label. It's obviously not outside forces that got them to change, it's what they wanted to do to begin with. Moonfog has some great bands, Dodheimsgard, Thorns, Khold etc.

[Flesh Crawl]

Nope, im pretty sure theyre on Roadrunner
I dont think theyve evolved at all, theyve just watered down.

[Lord Abortion]

Man, they're on Roadrunner?

haha...and they played Download too... can we spell sellout?

yes it's spelled S.A.T.Y.R.I.C.O.N




(I realise that Cradle of filth are one of my favourite bands, and they both are on RR, and played Download, but my point is that they have no pretentions to be BM, and Satyricon do)

[ATC]

Now,Diabolical was on Roadrunner. The moonfog site has Volcano-era and earlier satyricon on it so those probably werent. They may be on RR now but what's wrong with playing to a larger audience? Considering they were an important part of the early scene and are still widely respected in it (consider Thorns) , I don't see why they shouldn't have any pretensions of BM.

[MRDuCran]

I'm listening to it now.

/pointless info.

[Lord Abortion]

Now,Diabolical was on Roadrunner. The moonfog site has Volcano-era and earlier satyricon on it so those probably werent. They may be on RR now but what's wrong with playing to a larger audience? Considering they were an important part of the early scene and are still widely respected in it (consider Thorns) , I don't see why they shouldn't have any pretensions of BM.
You're missing the point of Black Metal here.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I doubt Roadrunner had anything to do with it.

[pate]

Roadrunner was just distributing the album in countries other than Norway and the U.S. I believe.

[Huber]

There norwegian label is Satyr's label Moonfog Records. There American label was Daron Malakian's label for Volcano, but I think for American this time they may have gone roadrunner.

Maybe.

I really doubt Roadrunner had anything to do with it. Now, Diabolical is just as radio friendly as Volcano.

[Cocaine]

You're missing the point of Black Metal here.
To release the exact same album every year, on a label so ****ty and obscure 8 people can get their hands on a copy.

[Perhaps Crickets]

To release the exact same album every year, on a label so ****ty and obscure 8 people can get their hands on a copy.
Yerrrr. You are right sir.


btw. Lets consider Ollie's tastes. http://www.last.fm/user/LordOllie/

Cradle Of Filth @ #5 HAHHAHAHA
Dragonforce 15 Misfits 16
SLIPKNOT 19 LOLOLOOL

[Ve Das]

^so? You got a problem with the Misfits? As for Satyricon, the whole band is a bunch of clueless posers.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

The Misfits are great, from what I've heard.

[Ve Das]

The Misfits rip Satyricon a new ässhole with every song they write.

[Perhaps Crickets]

lol. I hate Misfits, though I used to love them/Danzig.

[Ve Das]

Nah, Danzig(the band) pretty much sucks. He should´ve stayed with the horrorpunk squad.

[Perhaps Crickets]

Nah, Danzig(the band) pretty much sucks. He should´ve stayed with the horrorpunk squad.

You cannot deny Twist Of Cain, Mother, Devils Plaything(he sounds soo like Jim Morrison on this song) aren't great tunes?

[Ve Das]

Key word here is "pretty much". He has some songs that rock hard, but the majority of his discography is one big dissapointment.

[Perhaps Crickets]

Key word here is "pretty much". He has some songs that rock hard, but the majority of his discography is one big dissapointment.
I'd agree somewhat. He had several entire albums that were just sound experments gone wrong. :p

The last album and first were tight. The others either sucked or had two hit wonder written allover.

[Ve Das]

Didn´t even get around to checking out his last album. I guess I just thought it wasn´t worth the effort.

[Perhaps Crickets]

Didn´t even get around to checking out his last album. I guess I just thought it wasn´t worth the effort.
London Dongeon was one of the first licks I learned on guitar, few years back. :)

[Ve Das]

Neat, I started with Enter Sandman(i.e. I started playing guitar when I started listening to metal. Yeah, it´s been a while :lol: )

[Perhaps Crickets]

Neat, I started with Enter Sandman(i.e. I started playing guitar when I started listening to metal. Yeah, it´s been a while :lol: )
First thing I learned: I believe Enter Sandman or Fade To Black. Then didn't take long before I played MoP somewhat well. I learned LD and Die Die my darling in there as well. Nirvana, Mudvayne, Dimmu Borgir and other stuff.

Once night, I was watching headbangers ball and saw videos of The Quiet Place and Progenies...(In Flames & DB)...I went out and bought those albums. Loved them. Then picked up PEM from DB and In Their Darkened Shrines from Nile and loved those. That's how I got away from mainstream crap. :chug:

[Ve Das]

Remember: You´re talking to the guy who absolutely hates In Flames and Nile ;)

I actually started out with Demons&Wizards and Motörhead, closely followed by Iced Earth, Arch Enemy and Nokturnal Mortum. Yeah, things got blacker from there :D

[Apocalyptic Raids]

First thing I learned was Bombtrack by RATM.

[Ve Das]

Heh, I actually just got into RATM last year, when I managed to find some download links to their albums. Wouldn´t pay for their stuff, especially as they´re now defunct and the lable will probably keep most of the profits, but they´ve got some great tunes.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

They're my favourite band :)

[Ve Das]

Seriously? Understandable, but I´m stickin with Johnny Cash in that reguard ;)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yeah. I don't really listen to them as much as I used to, but I still love them.

[Perhaps Crickets]

Remember: You´re talking to the guy who absolutely hates In Flames and Nile ;)

I actually started out with Demons&Wizards and Motörhead, closely followed by Iced Earth, Arch Enemy and Nokturnal Mortum. Yeah, things got blacker from there :D
Hey, but would you rather have Nile lead me away from nu metal and towards Gorod, Necrophagist, Anata, CC, BDM and such.

I love Dimmu, more than then, have all their albums love old and new, but they lead me to Immortal, Dissection, Emperor, Behemoth and such. The antichristian stuff which I love and support lead allover like Vital Remains.

[Ve Das]

If Nile didn´t exist, it would´ve been another band.

[Perhaps Locusts]

If Nile didn´t exist, it would´ve been another band.
Who knows..... It's really hard to say. Children Of Bodom was another I've listened to for several years now.