What do you think about this for a amp?

[GKBassman]

A while back i decided i was gonna buy a Ampeg SVT4PRO but i decided not to or to atleast wait a little bit bc funds were a little low for me, anyway here is what i am thinking about,

here is the power amp, a lot of watts for the price.
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-QSC-RMX850.html

An here is the preamp, everyone knows about these.
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-TEC-RBI.html

I am just hoping that that will be a adequate setup for me, i have a nice 410 cab that i just loaded with all new speakers, and am thinking about adding a 15 for a little more low end. My guitarist is playing through a marshall half stack, and my drummer is extremmely loud on his drums, and when we practice i dont always want to mic my amp, and i would also like a setup thats gonna have enough headroom incase i dont have time to mic it at those last minute shows.

[Rasta Rocker]

That's the exact set up that I have. I'm running mine through an SWR goliath. The RBI is great, it has a wide range of tones and sounds good.

[GKBassman]

How would you say your tonal range is with that setup? I play things like tool, to RATM too RHCP, to Mudvayne, and the reason i dont want to spend a whole heck of a lot and get that ampeg is because i am thinking about getting another bass, either a Fender MIM Jazz Deluxe, or a Shecter Stilleto elite 5 or a Studio Elite 5, i just am not really positive if i want a 4 or that nice looking and playing 5 string.
Please keep your opinions and personal thoughts coming.

What about a boss GT6B or a line6 POD XT Live, then i will have a bigger tonal range but i wonder if that would be the better way to go.

[Mr. Pickle]

i had that setup, but i now have a bigger power amp. the rbi is a VERY warm pre. i really love the way it compliments my jazz. i play a little ratm and chili peppers and i can get a somewhat decent flea tone with it and my jazz, but it lacks a little punch that's needed to sound like flea.

[edgebass5]

I would advise the RBI over a Line6 or Boss preamp. I think the trade off would be that the RBI will give you fewer tones, but more useable ones... whereas the Line6 or Boss would give you more tones, but fewer useable ones. Also, I can vouch highly for QSC products. I'm using a PLX1602 in my rig, and despite my constant abuse of the thing its never given me a bit of grief. And I bought it used! :thumb:

[kilian]

May I add that I still think the Sansamp is compressing the signal quite a bit. Or atleast taking away the growl in my basses. I like the sound out of it, it's fat, warm and punchy. But the way it cuts away the growl is just too disappointing.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong..

A friend of mine just got a GK RB800 and he thinks it sounds even better (and louder) then the 1000 watt poweramp he had before.

[WhoDidTheElf]

May I add that I still think the Sansamp is compressing the signal quite a bit. Or atleast taking away the growl in my basses. I like the sound out of it, it's fat, warm and punchy. But the way it cuts away the growl is just too disappointing.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong..

Yeah I had that trouble for a while, so I rolled off the bass/trebble by about 1/4 to 1/3 evenly. Then I turned the gain down and the drive up to get a very slight overdrive. While it isn't really a clean tone, it does have some grit and growl to it. Full blend usually. Unless I want to get a more steril mid sound then I roll the blend out.

I can post the exact EQ I have for it a sec if you want.

Edit: To TS, personally I think it's a grand idea. You have all the power you want, and you can swap out pre amps to get your desired tone you want. I personally really like the SansAmp DI I have, really improved my tone.
/shamless plug for sansamp

[Rasta Rocker]

Yeah I had that trouble for a while, so I rolled off the bass/trebble by about 1/4 to 1/3 evenly. Then I turned the gain down and the drive up to get a very slight overdrive. While it isn't really a clean tone, it does have some grit and growl to it. Full blend usually. Unless I want to get a more steril mid sound then I roll the blend out.

I can post the exact EQ I have for it a sec if you want.

Edit: To TS, personally I think it's a grand idea. You have all the power you want, and you can swap out pre amps to get your desired tone you want. I personally really like the SansAmp DI I have, really improved my tone.
/shamless plug for sansamp
What is the EQ you're using? Cause I noticed that I don't really have any growl. I'm usually playing reggae/groove oriented material so the RBI is great for a real fat sound, but I want some growl in it.

[GKBassman]

I have heard alot of great reviews about the line6 pod XT live and the boss, that surprises me that no one really recommends either one. The whole reason i am really needing a new amp and want a new bass is because i am still using the bass that i got when i was 15, a Squire P-Bass, i have done alot of things to it and even went as far as sanding it down and painting it with some house of colors candy tagerine; but i am just not happy with it and i keep putting it off and never got another bass. All my freinds keep telling me to get a new bass but then there are other people that tell me that the orange with the black pickguard looks cool but what good does that do if your not happy with it as far as playability. On the other hand I am still using the first head that i got for a present when i was like 15, and its a pos GK Backline 250, the head really sucked until i blew it up then sent it to GK and since they sent it back it has had way more power, but still none the less i want a new amp bc i need more power especially with bigger gigs, and yes i did mic it. So pretty much i want to build a whole new rig, the only thing from the old rig that i would like to keep is my avatar 410 cab that i just put new speakers in.
3 weeks ago i was gonna buy a SVT4PRO and add a 115 ampeg cab to my 410 cab, but then that would be kind of stupid since im still playing the old squire bass.

Now onto what i am wanting to do.
1: Get a new bass, either a Fender MIM Jazz Deluxe, or a Schecter Stilleto Elite 5, but i dont know if i want to change to that 5 string.
2: Build a new rig that i will be happy with and that will have enough power and if its possible i would like to add a 15 unless you all think that my 410 cab will do the trick and make me happy.
3: I dont have alot of funds anymore so i would to keep this all under 1300 bucks if possible, and i am buying this stuff all new from american musical bc i pay for it in 5 payments.

Ps,
My 410 cab is 8 ohm and is loaded with 4 new eminence beta speakers rated at 200 watt rms each; i know that i wasnt happy with it before because of the head i was using but i am now wondering if i put 400 watts or more too it if i will be able to keep up with everyone in my band and not be lost in the mix.

I work 3rd shift and will get home at 8 am and i would like to order this stuff then if possible. Please start shooting me with some ideas or post settups that i can afford that i would be happy with.

Thank You.

[Rasta Rocker]

If your budget is 1300, that's what I spent on my entire rig (cables included). My rig being a used SWR Goliath II, QSC RMX 850, and the RBI. I think that the RBI would be able to color the sound of a squire enough so that it sounds at least decent. I'm not sure though, I'd give it a try in a store if you can and see how you like it

[GKBassman]

I have been playin that squire for 6 years now, and its very unslappable, and definitely untappable. Its time for a new bass.

[GKBassman]

What do you think about the ampeg SVT450? Its about he same price as that preamp and power amp but then that amp doesnt have a tube preamp so i dont know what kind of a growl i will get from it, i dont like alot of growl but i like a little bit of tube growl, not that nasty GK solid state growl.

[Foxfire]

I would advise the RBI over a Line6 or Boss preamp. I think the trade off would be that the RBI will give you fewer tones, but more useable ones... whereas the Line6 or Boss would give you more tones, but fewer useable ones. Also, I can vouch highly for QSC products. I'm using a PLX1602 in my rig, and despite my constant abuse of the thing its never given me a bit of grief. And I bought it used! :thumb:

edge has most impeccable taste.

Though it's not in the same product line, I have an RMX1450 I got for 300 used (shipped).

That's 800+ watts at 8 ohms bridged. Almost 3 watts a dollar.

[WhoDidTheElf]

What is the EQ you're using? Cause I noticed that I don't really have any growl. I'm usually playing reggae/groove oriented material so the RBI is great for a real fat sound, but I want some growl in it.

I'll post for MM/Jazz.

SansAmp for MM:
Level: 9
Drive: Just below 9
Trebble: 10
Bass: 9-10
Pressence: Usually 12 lately been at 2
Blend: Full

MM:EQ Slight boost in Mids, rest flat.

Amp:
Bass: 1
Low Mids: 2:30
Mids/High mids/Trebble: 12:00
Gain: 12:00

For the Jazz:
Same for all except...
Level: 10:00

Amp:
Same except for Mids..
Mids: 2:00

Neck Volume: 1/4 roll off
Bridge Volume: Full
Tone: 1/4-1/3 Roll off.

Note: All the SansAmp/Amp numbers shown are numbers on a clock.

[edgebass5]

but then that amp doesnt have a tube preamp so i dont know what kind of a growl i will get from it

Be wary of products that say they have a tube preamp. Just because they've thrown a few 12AX7's in the loop doesn't mean they're actually doing much of anything. A lot of heads will run a completely solid state EQ, then pass the signal through a 12AX7 and call it a tube preamp... bleh... Tube tone (especially when driven hard) comes from the tube power section more than anything. The Sansamp products sound MUCH more tube-like than most hybrid (tube preamp, solid state power) setups I've played (and trust me its been a few).

[GKBassman]

Well i made a decision,
I couldnt decide if whether or not to get the schecter 5 string stilleto elite or the jazz, but when i noticed at AMS the schecter was out of stock i decided to order the jazz, and for a amp i ordered a samson SX1200, i dont know how good it will be but if its not the best im gonna use it to power my bands new peavey moniters, i mean hey it was only 300 bucks for 1200 watts plus it came with a 80 dollar samson Q7 mic. I couldnt make up my mind on what to get for a preamp, i was having trouble deciding between a line6 pod pro LIVE XT, a BOSS GT6B, a SANSAMP RBI, or a SANSAMP programable, so i decided to go with the sansamp programmable because i figured that would suit me better bc it will be like having a 3 channel amp.

I didnt know what color i wanted on the Jazz deluxe so i decided to get it in black, it was either that or the antique white and my guitar player was saying eww thats nasty.

Hopefully my new gear sounds good.

[edgebass5]

Jazz + Sansamp = Good tone. You don't need to worry about finding good tone,with that setup my man. There are things Sansamp products won't do, but for the most part they deliver a decent range of good tones for use in a band setting. Definitely not the preamp I'd use in a solo setting, but in a band mix they sound great.

[Rasta Rocker]

I'll post for MM/Jazz.

SansAmp for MM:
Level: 9
Drive: Just below 9
Trebble: 10
Bass: 9-10
Pressence: Usually 12 lately been at 2
Blend: Full


What do you set the Gain and Mids for?

[WhoDidTheElf]

What do you set the Gain and Mids for?

On the sans amp?

The gain/level was 9oclock or so.

And there is no mid knob on mine. (sansamp DI)
If your's does I would leave it flat and roll off the bass and trebble.

On the MM my volume is 4/5 - full on, and the mids are boosted about half.