Danny Carey on drummerworld

[Yawnyd]

Hey folks, I was wondering - what do you think of Careys profile on DrummerWorld. Is it serious at all? I detect a hint of playfulness in all the occult details. But I dunno, what do you think O_o

[Loser]

The only unusual thing I noticed was that it said "High Schooland"

[psychedelic_liam]

his solo on there isnt very good :$ compared to what he 'can' play..

[Godzilla]

his solo on there isnt very good :$ compared to what he 'can' play..

That's not a solo man haha... That's the last 2 minutes or so of the Tool song, "Lateralus".

[drummguy731]

yeah, and he played out the end, that was the shiznit

[Jezen]

Definately not his most exciting video.

[Godzilla]

Definately not his most exciting video.

Yeah, I'll definetely give you that. I wish he picked a different song for the video, that's one a little too mellow.

[spike9908]

The video is from when he was first trying the bronze kit with Jeff Ocheltree. Its still a great song eather way, who cares if its mellow.

[Zildjian]

I kinda liked it...Its the only tool song i can play:upset:

[CARMEN77]

I dont think tool are the drug heads we actually think they are.

[ThatOneDrummer]

Definately not his most exciting video.
ive never seen a video of carey when hes not playing a tool song..id like to see one with him soloing...do you know where i could fine one?

[Josiah]

Hmm

I've seen him swing.. and solo. He plays with some guys on occasion when he's home in smaller la clubs. the guy has chops out his ears, he doesn't even touch on them with tool.

his drummerworld profile doesn't mention his crazy basketball skills either. danny could have gone pro if he wantted.

[TormentorScott]

Hmm

I've seen him swing.. and solo. He plays with some guys on occasion when he's home in smaller la clubs. the guy has chops out his ears, he doesn't even touch on them with tool.

his drummerworld profile doesn't mention his crazy basketball skills either. danny could have gone pro if he wantted.

Ha! That's very funny for some reason.

Yeah, Danny doesn't seem like the drug-type, as someone said above.

[_R2D2_]

Hmm

I've seen him swing.. and solo. He plays with some guys on occasion when he's home in smaller la clubs. the guy has chops out his ears, he doesn't even touch on them with tool.

his drummerworld profile doesn't mention his crazy basketball skills either. danny could have gone pro if he wantted.

:eek:

i didn't know that!!

[ThatOneDrummer]

i still wish i could see him solo...obviously hes a talented drummer but i keep hearing people talk about his amazing chops and stuff like that but ive never seen anything to back it up =/

[Godzilla]

Hmm

I've seen him swing.. and solo. He plays with some guys on occasion when he's home in smaller la clubs. the guy has chops out his ears, he doesn't even touch on them with tool.

his drummerworld profile doesn't mention his crazy basketball skills either. danny could have gone pro if he wantted.

Yeah, I found their myspace profile like a week ago or something. I forgot the name of the band though.

[MyShrimpDied]

I dont think tool are the drug heads we actually think they are.

Have you read the titles of the songs on 10,000 Days?

[_R2D2_]

Have you read the titles of the songs on 10,000 Days?

examples?


*not a follower of tool.

[MyShrimpDied]

The Pot - Talks about weed in the song.

Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) - Albert Hofmann, the man who first synthesized LSD in 1943 in Stockholm, Sweden. Basically the inventor of LSD.

Rosetta Stoned - That one should be pretty obvious.

Plus, on Aenema, during the beginning of Third Eye, there is a sound clip from comedian Bill Hicks saying: "If you don't believe drugs have done good things for people I want you to take all your old records and burn em. Because the people who made em were reeeeeaaaalllll ****in' high on drugs," or something similar to that

Also the song, or track I should say, Die Eier von Satan on Aenema is a hash cookie recipe spoken in German.

[Sync0pation]

Maybe they're just posers

haha just playin

[Electric Requiem]

Carey is a beast, you see a lot more of his skills in what he plays live (although I dont think he plays T&L's live)
Hes always wearing a basketball jersey it seems, and hes huge, so I dont doubt hes got skills.

[MyShrimpDied]

I've seen a video of him playing Ticks and Leeches live and he does it flawlessly

[CARMEN77]

First off...Adam doesnt use drugs at all.

Just because they have used drugs doesnt mean they are consumed by them. Many people I know who listen to them think they are walking trippers.

Danny seems like an extremely dedicated and serious person. Id love to read a bio of his life or something of that sort. Defenitly one of the more intresting drummers in his approach,sound and personality.

[Maggot Dream]

They've only done T&L live once or twice, which is unfortunate. I'd kill to see what he (and the whole band) does with it on stage.

[Futuro]

I saw it at a show in tallahassee florida.
It was ok...

[stevensonmat2]

The Pot - Talks about weed in the song.

Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) - Albert Hofmann, the man who first synthesized LSD in 1943 in Stockholm, Sweden. Basically the inventor of LSD.

Rosetta Stoned - That one should be pretty obvious.

Plus, on Aenema, during the beginning of Third Eye, there is a sound clip from comedian Bill Hicks saying: "If you don't believe drugs have done good things for people I want you to take all your old records and burn em. Because the people who made em were reeeeeaaaalllll ****in' high on drugs," or something similar to that

Also the song, or track I should say, Die Eier von Satan on Aenema is a hash cookie recipe spoken in German.

I think its safe to safe these guys like drugs. Look at the freakin booklet from Lateralus.

[Win A Rabbit]

I heard a couple songs from his other band, can't think of the name right now. I think it's in a copy of Modern Drummer. I'll find it later when I get around to cleaning my room. It was pretty decent stuff, from what I remember.

[Maggot Dream]

I saw it at a show in tallahassee florida.
It was ok...
I can't imagine it being fantastic. Did Maynard use heavy effects on the vocals?

[Futuro]

I can't imagine it being fantastic. Did Maynard use heavy effects on the vocals?
Yes, He was heavily distorted/and singing through a megaphone.

I like his megaphone things normally, but mix it with distortion and it sounds like poopoo.

[raz0r]

I've seen a bootleg of them playing Ticks and Leeches, and Danny just plain rips throughout the song, doesn't miss a beat.

I didn't really like the way maynard performed though, but it's better than not performing it at all

The megaphone thing he does during rosetta stoned live is great though.

[Matter]

I saw it at a show in tallahassee florida.
It was ok...


Hehe I was at that show too...Maynards vocal effects ****ed up the first part but the rest was killer...especially the break-down and ending.

[psychedelic_liam]

Danny's first encounter with the drums began at the age of ten by joining the school band and taking private lessons on the snare drum. Two years later, Danny began to practice on a drum set and began working with a private teacher. His private teacher had a specialty in bongos, henceforth bequeathing bongo skills that Carey uses frequently, as well as skillfully. In his senior year of high school, Danny joined the high school jazz band and began to study under a new teacher specifically for jazz drumming training. As Danny progressed through high school and later college at the University of Missouri - Kansas City, he began expanding his studies in percussion with theory into the principles of geometry, science, and metaphysics as well as delving into Sacred Geometry and certain hidden aspects of life and the occult (hidden). Danny also played jazz while attending college and got to experience the jazz scene in Kansas City.

A major commitment to life as an artist convinced Danny to leave Kansas and travel to Los Angeles, California where he was able to perform as a studio drummer with bands like Carole King and perform live sets with Pigmy Love Circus. He would later find his way to Tool after coming to know singer Maynard James Keenan and guitarist Adam Jones and practicing with them in place of drummers the two had requested but had never shown up. Besides Tool, Danny also finds time for other projects new and old such as Pigmy Love Circus, Volto, and ZAUM. Danny Carey has been widely perceived as one of the most talented and focused percussionists of this generation and beyond.

There is something to read, quote interesting, all great's played jazz! \m/

[beef]

pigmy love circus, latest record; " power of the beef" yeah. Danny is all about the illuminati and mister crowley. crowley was one bad mtf.. truly evil. check out his homepage for which books he like to read:naughty:

[MyShrimpDied]

First off...Adam doesnt use drugs at all.

Just because they have used drugs doesnt mean they are consumed by them. Many people I know who listen to them think they are walking trippers.

Danny seems like an extremely dedicated and serious person. Id love to read a bio of his life or something of that sort. Defenitly one of the more intresting drummers in his approach,sound and personality.

And just because someone is dedicated and serious doesn't mean they don't use drugs.

If you look at Danny's and the rest of the band's interest in occult, with ALL the references in their songs to illicit substances, and with many of their songs being extremely psychedelic and 'trippy', it would be pretty naive to think that they don't use them. I'm not sure about Adam and don't know where you got the info that he doesn't use drugs at all, but i'm 99% positive the rest of the band does, that 1% being the fact that I don't know for sure.

[Electric Requiem]

I think its safe to safe these guys like drugs. Look at the freakin booklet from Lateralus.
It was commisioned by tool and painted by my farorite artist alex grey. http://alexgrey.com/. Check it out. How that is evidence they like drugs I have no clue, I believe adam met alex then commisioned the artwork (adam does the claymation for the tool music videos).
Having seen them live I would not believe by the way maynard composes himself that he is a druggie. In a video that was posted here of danny and maynard hosting an australian station similar to mtv, it looked like danny couldve been high, but again, nothing is certain. I doubt they are chronic users.

[Godzilla]

Check it out... ( http://www.myspace.com/volto ). Danny's Jam Band. Reminds me of The Disco Biscuits but less trippy.

[MatthewMeredith]

The Pot - Talks about weed in the song.

In the Guitar World interview, Jones confirmed that the title of "The Pot" was a reference to an idiomatic term for hypocrisy (i.e., the "pot calling the kettle black").

Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) - Albert Hofmann, the man who first synthesized LSD in 1943 in Stockholm, Sweden. Basically the inventor of LSD.

That Hofmann thing is right.

Rosetta Stoned - That one should be pretty obvious.

The Rosetta Stone is an archeological artifact of carved granite found in Egypt. The tablet was used as a key to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphs; its name was also used as a nom de plume for children's author Dr. Seuss. It is also a quick second language learning system.

Plus, on Aenema, during the beginning of Third Eye, there is a sound clip from comedian Bill Hicks saying: "If you don't believe drugs have done good things for people I want you to take all your old records and burn em. Because the people who made em were reeeeeaaaalllll ****in' high on drugs," or something similar to that

And the thing at the beginning of Aenima is a tribute to Bill Hicks, as is the entire album.

Also the song, or track I should say, Die Eier von Satan on Aenema is a hash cookie recipe spoken in German.

Yea that's completely true... translated they are "The Eggs (Testicles) of Satan".

[Maggot Dream]

The Rosetta Stone is an archeological artifact of carved granite found in Egypt. The tablet was used as a key to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphs; its name was also used as a nom de plume for children's author Dr. Seuss. It is also a quick second language learning system.
And none of those things have anything to do with the song.

[MatthewMeredith]

Shhh.....

*shifty eyes*

Edit: On topic, I agree that the drummerworld video of Danny is NOT a show off video. But, it goes to show that Danny does not hog the spotlight. He is one of the best drummers when it comes to playing for the music, and this video nails that.

[MyShrimpDied]

In the Guitar World interview, Jones confirmed that the title of "The Pot" was a reference to an idiomatic term for hypocrisy (i.e., the "pot calling the kettle black").






The Rosetta Stone is an archeological artifact of carved granite found in Egypt. The tablet was used as a key to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphs; its name was also used as a nom de plume for children's author Dr. Seuss. It is also a quick second language learning system.



And the thing at the beginning of Aenima is a tribute to Bill Hicks, as is the entire album.



Yea that's completely true... translated they are "The Eggs (Testicles) of Satan".

Despite that fact about 'The Pot' there are several references to being 'High,' and references to ganja and reefer.

Why would they title it Rosetta Stoned?

Why would they choose THAT specific section out of one of Bill Hicks' comedy routines?

About 'The Eggs of Satan,' The translation of the title is meaningless if the rest of the translation is a recipe for hash cookies.

[Yawnyd]

Now don't forget that having drug inspired lyrics doesn't have to make one a typical druggie. A relatively mild mushroom trip can induce the feelings of finding the answers, and, like in Rosetta Stoned, not remembering when you wake up.

Lateralus is my favourite song lyric wise. I respect what it is saying from a sober point of view. Tt can be disputed whether these lyrics are drug inspired, though.

To some people I would like to add that Tool don't have to be high and tripping 24-7 to have experienced drugs. It's hard to trip 24-7. One day I tried shrooms with a couple of friends here in Holland, and let me tell you we were afraid to go to the coffee shop to buy more weed because we were too ****ed up for 'those kinds of people'. Let alone real sober people.:eek:

Anywho what I'm saying is that it could very well be that many of their lyrics at least were inspired by drugs, without them being total spaced out morons.

But ON TOPIC: I still don't understand this whole 'metaphysical and geometric inspiration' that Carey supposedly incorperates into his technique, can anyone give a concrete example?

[Det_Nosnip]

ive never seen a video of carey when hes not playing a tool song..id like to see one with him soloing...do you know where i could fine one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVr8k5V_qls
http://www.myspace.com/volto
http://www.voltoband.com

[Drazinus]

Off Topic:

Lyrics to Rosetta Stoned as posted in Toolband.com's August 2006 Newsletter.

ROSETTA STONED

All righty then... picture this if you will...
10 to 2 am, X, yogi DMT, and a box of krispy kreme's in my "need to know" pose just outside of area 51, contemplating the whole chosen people thingy when just then a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this. Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my birkinstocks, and me yelping "holy ****in' ****!"

then the X file being, looking like some kinda blue green Jackie chan, with Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of vanilla chig champa, did a slow mo matrix decent outta the butt end of the banana vessel, and hovered above my bug eyes, my gaping jaw, and my sweaty elron hubbard upper lip and all I could think was, "I hope uncle martin here doesn't notice that I pissed my ****in pants!!"

so light in his way, like an apparition, that he had me crying out...
"**** me! It's gotta be the dead head chemistry. (the) blotter got right on top o' me. Got me seeing E mutha ****in T!


and after calming me down with some orange slices and some fetal spooning, E.T. revealed to me his singular purpose. He said. "you are the chosen one. The one who will deliver the message. A message of hope for those who choose to hear it, and a warning for those who do not." Me! The chosen one. They chose me!!!! And I didn't even graduate from ****in' high school!!

Then he looked right through me with somniferous almond eyes. Don't even know what that means. Must remember to write it down.
This is so real. Like the time Dave floated away. See, my heart is pounding. cuz this **** never happens to me.
Can't breathe right now.

It was so real. Like I woke up in wonderland. all sorta terrifying. I don't wanna be alone while I tell this story.
And can anyone tell me why y'all sound like peanuts parents?
Will I ever be coming down?
This is so real. Finally it's my lucky day See, my heart is racing cuz this **** never happens to me.
Can't breathe right now.


You believe me don't you? Please believe what I've just said. See, the dead ain't touring and this wasn't all in my head. see they took me by the hand and invited me right in. then they showed me something. I don't even know where to begin.

Strapped down to my bed, feet cold and eyes red.
I'm out of my head am I alive? Am I dead.
Can't remember what they said. God damn. **** the bed.
Overwhelmed as one would be placed in my position...
Such a heavy burden now to be the one
Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending.
to write it down for all the world to see.
But I forgot my pen. **** the bed again. Typical.


Strapped down to my bed, feet cold and eyes red.
I'm out of my head am I alive? Am I dead.
Sun kissed and Sudafed Gyro scopes and infrared
won't help. I'm brain dead. Can't remember what they said.
God damn. **** the bed.


Can't remember what they said to me.
Can't remember what they said to make me out to be the hero.
Can't remember what they said.
Bob help me.
Can't remember what they said.


We don't know and we won't know.
God damn **** the bed.

Clearly about being stoned out of you mind. While I don't aspire to turn this into a Tool debate thread(there's plenty of that in R&M), I just figured I'd post it.

On Topic: I remember Blair M. Blake(the person that runs toolband.com) taking questions(may have even been that newsletter). That was one of the specific questions. He (claimed) couldn't quite remember the exact dimensions, thus giving further reason to just count it as a 'silly Tool rumor'.

[-Draz-]

[HeLLmO]

Despite that fact about 'The Pot' there are several references to being 'High,' and references to ganja and reefer.

Why would they title it Rosetta Stoned?

Why would they choose THAT specific section out of one of Bill Hicks' comedy routines?

About 'The Eggs of Satan,' The translation of the title is meaningless if the rest of the translation is a recipe for hash cookies.

lets see, alot of times in songs bands, especially bands with Maynard on lyrical duty, have songs that may seem like one thing, but are really about another, like Judith by APC, you'd think it's about Jesus, but it's about Maynard's mother, despite countless refrences to Jesus.

i dunno about Rosetta Stoned, but it may just be a joke, because i think i read somewhere that Rosetta Stoned was a TooL tribute band.

Die Er Von Satan or w.e is defiantly about hash cookies, i really don't think you can argue that, but they definatly don't like eggs in their cookies.

as for the bill hicks thing, refer to my first point, but how really knows what goes on in Maynard's head

[Electric Requiem]

rosetta stoned, sounds like the dudes thinks LSD is making him go insane, or knows it is (makes reference to blotter paper).
aenema, maynard sings '**** all you junkies and **** your short memories', sounds like hes bashing potheads who have no short term memory, but then pots not addictive, so...I dont know.

Tool is awesome. Whether or not they do drugs, they should keep it up because its working, theyre making great music.

[Maggot Dream]

aenema, maynard sings '**** all you junkies and **** your short memories', sounds like hes bashing potheads who have no short term memory, but then pots not addictive, so...I dont know.

Junkies and potheads aren't the same thing.

[Electric Requiem]

Junkies and potheads aren't the same thing.
I know, because pot isnt addictive.

[MyShrimpDied]

Tool is awesome. Whether or not they do drugs, they should keep it up because its working, theyre making great music.

Absolutely, whether or not they do drugs i'm going to respect and admire them the same.

It's pointless to debate this topic anymore because in my eyes there is no debate.

In response to Yawnyd's question, from ToolBand.com:

"Despite not becoming a Mason or aligning himself with any other school of religion, Danny has maintained his heritages interest in occult studies. Endeavors into this realm have manifested periodically, such as the time he achieved insight into a hidden aspect of the unicursal hexagram utilizing an astral journey initiated through meditation and DMT. Danny then set up his drums into proportions utilizing the circle and square of the New Jerusalem and uttered a short prayer relating to the principles of the ace of swords from the book of Thoth."

For those who don't know, DMT is an extremely powerful psychedelic drug similar to LSD and Mescaline.

[poppinfresh]

The only unusual thing I noticed was that it said "High Schooland"
its high school and college

[Maggot Dream]

Absolutely, whether or not they do drugs i'm going to respect and admire them the same.

It's pointless to debate this topic anymore because in my eyes there is no debate.

In response to Yawnyd's question, from ToolBand.com:

"Despite not becoming a Mason or aligning himself with any other school of religion, Danny has maintained his heritages interest in occult studies. Endeavors into this realm have manifested periodically, such as the time he achieved insight into a hidden aspect of the unicursal hexagram utilizing an astral journey initiated through meditation and DMT. Danny then set up his drums into proportions utilizing the circle and square of the New Jerusalem and uttered a short prayer relating to the principles of the ace of swords from the book of Thoth."

For those who don't know, DMT is an extremely powerful psychedelic drug similar to LSD and Mescaline.
You realize, or course, that there's a good chance most of that is nonsense.

You kinda have to take anything Tool says with a major grain of salt. They have a tendancy to **** with their fans.

[Electric Requiem]

You realize, or course, that there's a good chance most of that is nonsense.

You kinda have to take anything Tool says with a major grain of salt. They have a tendancy to **** with their fans.
they have the best april fools day jokes

[MyShrimpDied]

That's true

Writing a fake biography would be a very strange way of ****ing with the fans though, all of that info is pretty believable.

[Burningwater]

The issue isn't that they do drugs or that they don't do drugs. They don't mention drugs to say, "drugs are good. look at us!" The purpose of The Pot and the Bill Hicks quotes in Third Eye are to say that it's our civil liberties being attacked by the government. It's ultimately our choice as to what goes into our bodies. If you look at songs like H. and Stinkfist the metaphors in those could point to the addictions and negative side effects of drugs. It may be a broader subject than that, but it's still encompassed by those messages. Who cares if they did them, or they didn't do them? That's not what they're trying to say. They're saying we're getting screwed by the government who are taking our rights away.

[Maggot Dream]

That's true

Writing a fake biography would be a very strange way of ****ing with the fans though, all of that info is pretty believable.
Except for the whole geometry thing...

The fact is that at least 60% of what they say is bullshit.

[MyShrimpDied]

Why is the geometry thing bull****?

[raz0r]

For those who don't know, DMT is an extremely powerful psychedelic drug similar to LSD and Mescaline.

Minus a few of the ****ty side effects.

LSD stays in the body forever, because the body has no way to get rid of it.
DMT passes out after a week or so, IIRC.

[CARMEN77]

Razor shut the **** up. You are retarded.

[MatthewMeredith]

Hey guys, sorry I was gone for a while. My post with all the quotes in it wasn't to deny the fact that the members of Tool (along with 90% of the world) have taken some drugs at one time or another, but to give other insights as to what the songs are about.

As we all know, it's quite often hard to really decipher what Maynard is getting at :p

Anyways, this discussion turned out kind of cool; hearing all of your opinions on the matter.

Go team!

Carey rules!

[Jezen]

About 'The Eggs of Satan,' The translation of the title is meaningless if the rest of the translation is a recipe for hash cookies.

It's not about that. It's meant to be a test for listeners.

[MyShrimpDied]

Hey guys, sorry I was gone for a while. My post with all the quotes in it wasn't to deny the fact that the members of Tool (along with 90% of the world) have taken some drugs at one time or another, but to give other insights as to what the songs are about.

As we all know, it's quite often hard to really decipher what Maynard is getting at :p

Anyways, this discussion turned out kind of cool; hearing all of your opinions on the matter.

Go team!

Carey rules!

Yeah, I mean i'm not trying to put the members of Tool down in any way. I don't think it's a bad thing that they do drugs, I find it interesting when drugs can inspire such powerful music.

[!aaa!]

Tool screw with our gullibility all the time. I mean, remember when Maynard "found jesus" and "quit the band" on April Fools Day a few years ago. LOL! Anyway, the line "**** all you junkies" in Aenima shows a distaste for heroin addicts/heroin addiction in a song that condemns the materialistic and fickle side of L.A. (junkies, gun toting hip gangster wannabes e.t.c.). That doesn't mean Maynard isn't partial to occasional use of hallucinogenic drugs.
And as for Danny, I'll have some of what he's having. The sheer originality of his drumming on stuff like Ticks&Leeches and Right in Two seems to have been created under the influence, it's that far out!

[CARMEN77]

Lets just say danny is good because he is dedicated and has mad chops not because any drug. Although being that good and ingesting a drug might have positive effects. If you gave a bad drummer DMT, LSD or what ever else he would be BAD.

[drummguy731]

Yeah, Danny made sweet chops without using drugs. He uses DMT for religious "enlightment", more or less. He's also never been doped up playing. Like I said, he uses DMT for occult reasons, not for drumming.

[CARMEN77]

Word I actually read an interview with danny in an occult zine of sorts. He said that Drugs have almost no occult value.

Its on his website if somone wants to look into it.

[CARMEN77]

“I think psychedelics play a major part in what we do, but having said that, I feel that if somebody's going to experiment with those things they really need to educate themselves about them. People just taking the chemicals and diving in without having any kind of preparation about what they're about to experience tend to have no frame of reference, so they're missing everything flying by and all these new perspectives. It's just a waste. They reach a little bit of spiritual enlightenment, but they end up going, 'Well, now I need that drug to get back there again.' The trick is to use the drugs once to get there, and maybe spend the next ten years trying to get back there without the drug.”-Maynard

[Maggot Dream]

Why is the geometry thing bull****?
Because it is...

There's very little background information availible on it, which doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, but it may mean that it's applications to drumming are imaginary.

I'm not saying it's not possible, I just don't think everyone should believe it just because they read it on Drummerworld.

They tend to invent things that don't really exist/have practical applications so that their fans will go searching like crazy for more information before they discover they've been duped.

[MyShrimpDied]

It was never my opinion that Danny used drugs to get as good as he is, that obviously came from practice and only practice.

And I agree with Carmen when he says that if someone is a very good drummer, ingesting a powerful drug like LSD or DMT can help creativity and in some respects make you a better drummer, but you have to be a good drummer to begin with. That's also dependant on the individual, some people take drugs and it makes them the happiest person in the world, some take them and go insane. If I smoke too much weed I turn into a paranoid schizo, but for other people it makes them a better person than when they were sober.

[Det_Nosnip]

“I think psychedelics play a major part in what we do, but having said that, I feel that if somebody's going to experiment with those things they really need to educate themselves about them. People just taking the chemicals and diving in without having any kind of preparation about what they're about to experience tend to have no frame of reference, so they're missing everything flying by and all these new perspectives. It's just a waste. They reach a little bit of spiritual enlightenment, but they end up going, 'Well, now I need that drug to get back there again.' The trick is to use the drugs once to get there, and maybe spend the next ten years trying to get back there without the drug.”-Maynard

Or you could just get there without the drugs to begin with. Yeah, it might take longer, but hey! At least brain doesn't have to bleed.

[isp_of_doom]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MyShrimpDied
For those who don't know, DMT is an extremely powerful psychedelic drug similar to LSD and Mescaline.

Minus a few of the ****ty side effects.

LSD stays in the body forever, because the body has no way to get rid of it.
DMT passes out after a week or so, IIRC.

moreover DMT is a natural substance the body creates. LSD is created in a lab... Mescaline has never really caught on due the extreme vomiting etc it tends to induce.

I'm reading a book about it at the moment (DMT: The Spirit Molecule - Dr. Rick Strassman... fascinating read).

As far as Danny Carey on drummerworld goes... I like his playing on the clips... part of the fascination with tool is the mystery they have developed around them. No one is 100% sure about what is going on with anything to do with them (except Carey RuleZorz :p)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX-qHxazcZI&mode=related&search=
youtube has some great tool vids.

[Josiah]

I like mushrooms.

[Huber]

DC's Volto stuff is the bees knees.

[Win A Rabbit]

As do I. I've only done it once, and while I did a bit more than I would have wanted to, had I known that the stuff we got was better than I expected, I quite enjoyed it. My friend is supposed to get around to buying some more right away.

Edit: To Josiah.

[MyShrimpDied]

I will be consuming said fungi in two days at a drum circle.

[Josiah]

I will be consuming said fungi in two days at a drum circle.


That'll be flippin rad.

Sic, awesome stuff as well!

[Futuro]

I set my drums up in reverse order of planet alignment.

[CARMEN77]

Or you could just get there without the drugs to begin with. Yeah, it might take longer, but hey! At least brain doesn't have to bleed.

What exactly are you talking about. No drug we are speaking of makes your brain bleed. Thank you doctor misinformation!


Ive done shrooms twice. It was exactly what I expected. I did 3 grams both time and it felt like I was really drunk and stoned. The second time I tried them I threw up 2 hours into it and it was the greatest feeling ever.

[MyShrimpDied]

Your brain bleeding is a myth about LSD and mushrooms that has been spread by people that think these drugs are worse than alcohol.

[raz0r]

I like mushrooms.
They're legal in this country, too :D

I don't really see the problem anyway, if it comes out of the ground, why shouldn't we be able to ingest it?

[Josiah]

Oh I know.. i love your country very much and wish to vist if not live there.

What exactly are you talking about. No drug we are speaking of makes your brain bleed. Thank you doctor misinformation!


Ive done shrooms twice. It was exactly what I expected. I did 3 grams both time and it felt like I was really drunk and stoned. The second time I tried them I threw up 2 hours into it and it was the greatest feeling ever.
Bummer. I've tried them many times, with intense visual experiences and no negitive issues what so ever.

you have to really mentally prepare yourself to go there. That's a main reason people throw up, their mind and body are not in sync, the body think's it's being poisoned from mis information coming from the brain - and it ejects what it can.

[MyShrimpDied]

I always meditate before a trip.

[Yawnyd]

Oh I know.. i love your country very much and wish to vist if not live there.


Bummer. I've tried them many times, with intense visual experiences and no negitive issues what so ever.

you have to really mentally prepare yourself to go there. That's a main reason people throw up, their mind and body are not in sync, the body think's it's being poisoned from mis information coming from the brain - and it ejects what it can.


Hmm I've tried them 5 times 2 of which did not work, and the first being the first I was prolly placeboed out of my head.
Only negative effect I ever saw was my friend having some kind of split of his ego, he kept switching between this demonic personality and himself (him being tired and hardly able to talk). Died down after a few mins tho. I argued that we are but one consciousness appearing to itself subjectively, and that destroyed the beast. Thanks tool for letting me rip off your lyrics!

[Plan B.]

Blasting a barfer must be so rad when you're wigged out on shrooms!

[CARMEN77]

Never had any visuals while tripping shrooms. All the times have been pretty much the same...

On LSD however I was seeing some twisted stuff. It actually freaked me out a bit haha.

I wanna play drums and take some shrooms that would be fun :).

[CARMEN77]

Blasting a barfer must be so rad when you're wigged out on shrooms!

It was dude. It was like I was Cumming...I felt extremly overjoyed as my red vomit flew all over the place...!!!

[Electric Requiem]

Your brain bleeding is a myth about LSD and mushrooms that has been spread by people that think these drugs are worse than alcohol.
Im going to go out on a limb and say that LSD is worse then alcohol.

[Maggot Dream]

Care to back that up?

[Electric Requiem]

Physically, it might not be as bad, but the flashbacks are not good...

[Loyton]

Physically, it might not be as bad, but the flashbacks are not good...

So you have done LSD, correct?

[Josiah]

Care to back that up?

Oh there's PLENTY of evidence that LSD is very bad for you.

Grantted, taken 1-4 times, or very rarely over the course of a lifetime. Not going to be an issue.

Taken on a regular basis, you WILL have serious problems. There's countless numbers of people who weant nuts off Acid when it was popular. Regular use of LSD will destroy your brain.

[Maggot Dream]

And alcohol won't?

I'm not saying LSD is harmless. Hell, if you think that, just take a look at Syd Barrett.

Anyways, alcohol is made much worse than it would normally be by the fact that it's a legal, multi-billion dollar industry. Add the fact that it's both physically and psychologically addictive, and you've got a hell of a drug.

[Sync0pation]

Caffeine is pretty addictive as well. More than marijuana.

[Maggot Dream]

Pretty much everything is more addictive than marijuana.

[Josiah]

Hi, My name is Josiah M. and I am a drumaholic.


I've been hooked for almost 20 years now. It's taken over my life, my soul and my wallet. Today was a bad day, I only played on the pad for about 2 hours....

[Sync0pation]

You weren't supposed to play for 2 days straight Josiah. Now we're going to have to start all over again. Remember what those law classes were for? To keep you busy. You have been a dissapointment to DA (drummers anonymous) and your fiance.

[CARMEN77]

IVe only played 1 hour today, my brain is telling me to get on the pad, and my body is telling me to go to sleep...Must not submit.

[MyShrimpDied]

Physically, it might not be as bad, but the flashbacks are not good...

Look at how many people die a year from alcohol compared to how many die from acid.

[MyShrimpDied]

The drum circle is actually tonight! I can't wait.

[Godzilla]

Look at how many people die a year from alcohol compared to how many die from acid.

Haha... many, many more people drink alcohol than take acid.

[Josiah]

You weren't supposed to play for 2 days straight Josiah. Now we're going to have to start all over again. Remember what those law classes were for? To keep you busy. You have been a dissapointment to DA (drummers anonymous) and your fiance.


WAHAHhAHa


Actually on the 2 days straight - Guinness is suposed to be getting back to me on that. Seems there is no individual drumset marathon record. I'm going to go for it, 50 hours is my goal, for the first attempt.

[Det_Nosnip]

What exactly are you talking about. No drug we are speaking of makes your brain bleed. Thank you doctor misinformation!

Ah, you're right actually. My bad.

[Det_Nosnip]

Pretty much everything is more addictive than marijuana.

False.

[Urolagnia]

It was dude. It was like I was Cumming...I felt extremly overjoyed as my red vomit flew all over the place...!!!
are you actually serious?

[isp_of_doom]

Your brain bleeding is a myth about LSD and mushrooms that has been spread by people that think these drugs are worse than alcohol.

and thus, another example of the messed up education system that doesn't educate people on the facts of drugs, drug use and drug abuse.

Actually on the 2 days straight - Guinness is suposed to be getting back to me on that. Seems there is no individual drumset marathon record. I'm going to go for it, 50 hours is my goal, for the first attempt.

I believe there is a record for the longest time drumming upside down. [Searches Guiness World Record books]

Some other records that might WILLinterest:
' Largest Drumset
A drum set consisting of 308 pieces (153 drums, 77 cymbals, 33 cow bells, 12 hi hats, 8 tambourines, 6 woodblocks, 3 gongs, 3 bell trees, two maracas, two triangles, two rain sticks, two bells, one rachet, one set of chimes, one xylophone, one afuche, and one doorbell) was built by Dan McCourt of Michigan USA in 1994' - Guiness 1997 Page 155

'Largest Drum
A drum 3.96m (13ft) in diameter was built byt the Supreme Drum Co, London, UK and played at the Roytal Festival Hall in 1987' - Guiness 1997 Page 155

Also the most applause was 1h4 20 mins... now that is appreciation!

this is a turn up for the WFD competitions....
'Drumming
Making a strong claim to be the worlds fastest and most manic drummer, Rory Blackwell of Starcross, Devon, UK played a total of 400 seperate drums , one at a time, in 16.2 seconds at Finlake Leisure Park, near Chudleigh, Devon, UK on 29 May 1995.

He also achieved a total of 3,720 single beats on a single drum, using sticks, in one minute (62 beats per second) at Finlake Leisure Park, near Chudleigh, Devon, UK, on 24 October 1991.' - Guiness 1998 page 22...

Fark...

Thought there was one about drumming for ages.. must've been wrong.. Go for it Josiah!

edit: and soz for the OT, but its interesting :p

[CARMEN77]

are you actually serious?

Im not joking man. It really felt like someone blew releif through my body. My stomach was hurting a ton...

[Win A Rabbit]

My friend threw up on mushrooms and apparently he started stirring it around in my sink with a straw and he said he could see patterns in it and stuff, and that he was aligning the chunks in the order he ate them, he seemed so happy.

I only got 1 visual my first time. A friend threw a quarter over towards me, and I saw it freeze-frame it's way over to me.


My old Social Studies teacher used to do acid. He hasn't told us directly, but it's so obvious. And on a horseback camping trip that him and a friend run, a friend of mine asked him if he'd done "x" drug, and he answered no to all but mushrooms, pot, and acid.

I may go on the horseback trip this year. It sounds real fun. You can drink/smoke/do one of the 3 forementioned drugs without getting in trouble, seeing as it's not technically a school trip.

[Josiah]

'Drumming
Making a strong claim to be the worlds fastest and most manic drummer, Rory Blackwell of Starcross, Devon, UK played a total of 400 seperate drums , one at a time, in 16.2 seconds at Finlake Leisure Park, near Chudleigh, Devon, UK on 29 May 1995.

He also achieved a total of 3,720 single beats on a single drum, using sticks, in one minute (62 beats per second) at Finlake Leisure Park, near Chudleigh, Devon, UK, on 24 October 1991.' - Guiness 1998 page 22...



The 3,720 beats per min would contradict 2 existing and published guinness records.

However I assume at the time they had no way of messuring that. Considering it's well more then twice what current world records are at. There's no way he could have played 3,730 strokes in 60 seconds.

[LoneStarDrummer]

3720 in one minute? i don't know about that. that seems like way too much. but who am i to argue, i don't know who holds the record.

[isp_of_doom]

The 3,720 beats per min would contradict 2 existing and published guinness records.

My thoughts exactly... but its printed. You could reach those speeds doing a buzz roll... well, you could get closer than single strokes.

[Det_Nosnip]

They didn't specify "single stroke roll."

[Josiah]

true.. though -

"He also achieved a total of 3,720 single beats on a single drum, using sticks, in one minute (62 beats per second) at Finlake Leisure Park,"

I read that as a single stroke roll, no?


That does seem pretty absurd though, even playing doubles that would be an incredible speed.

[MyShrimpDied]

Haha... many, many more people drink alcohol than take acid.

Regardless, people dying from acid is a rare occurence. 85,000 people a year die from alcohol.

[Loser]

Regardless, people dying from acid is a rare occurence. 85,000 people a year die from alcohol.


And this number would be much higher if hospitals didn't spend so much time and money caring for people who are either going through alcohol withdrawl (oddly, alcohol withdrawl is pretty much the only withdrawl that can kill you.), alcohol poisioning, or were involved in drunk driving incidents.



I've never heard of LSD withdrawl, LSD overdose/poisoning, or LSD related car accidents.

[Maggot Dream]

False.
Ok, exaggeration, but it's only addictive psychologically, and then only in large amounts.

[isp_of_doom]

I've never heard of LSD withdrawl, LSD overdose/poisoning, or LSD related car accidents.

I've heard of LSD overdose. Long story short: My friend was on acid, running up and down queen street in auckland (the main city/busy-at-night street). Anyway, he was running around, away from all these mathematically incorrect geometric shapes and and then he started to feel he was on fire, so he took all his clothes off and continued running around (in amongst all the nightclubs, etc).

Eventually he ran back to his apartment not too far away and continued running up and down stairs into peoples rooms, etc. In the end they called the police and he was taken to a cell to sit out the effects. (ensue loads more hilarity involving camera's in the cell, underneath the bed and other such things). In the morning they warned him of the dangers of LSD, ie. the government has no control over how strong each dose is, etc. They also warned him of overdosing, saying it was getting more common amongst LSD users.

then they let him go and he flew to america that morning while still slightly high.

[Loyton]

I've heard of LSD overdose. Long story short: My friend was on acid, running up and down queen street in auckland (the main city/busy-at-night street). Anyway, he was running around, away from all these mathematically incorrect geometric shapes and and then he started to feel he was on fire, so he took all his clothes off and continued running around (in amongst all the nightclubs, etc).

Eventually he ran back to his apartment not too far away and continued running up and down stairs into peoples rooms, etc. In the end they called the police and he was taken to a cell to sit out the effects. (ensue loads more hilarity involving camera's in the cell, underneath the bed and other such things). In the morning they warned him of the dangers of LSD, ie. the government has no control over how strong each dose is, etc. They also warned him of overdosing, saying it was getting more common amongst LSD users.

then they let him go and he flew to america that morning while still slightly high.

Eh, my idea of a good night, but I guess there are different types of people.

[isp_of_doom]

there are different types of people

the male and female cateogries instantly come to mind.

[Det_Nosnip]

Ok, exaggeration, but it's only addictive psychologically, and then only in large amounts.

Not really. The problem with psychological addictions is that your mind starts to **** with you and convinces you that you have control where you really don't. The line between a casual smoker and an addict is actually pretty thin...by the time you're smoking "large amounts," you're probably already addicted...which suggests that the addiction starts a bit sooner, eh? Believe me, I've known and met tons of people who've ****ed their lives over with pot. It's a stupid, stupid drug.

[Josiah]

Not really. The problem with psychological addictions is that your mind starts to **** with you and convinces you that you have control where you really don't. The line between a casual smoker and an addict is actually pretty thin...by the time you're smoking "large amounts," you're probably already addicted...which suggests that the addiction starts a bit sooner, eh? Believe me, I've known and met tons of people who've ****ed their lives over with pot. It's a stupid, stupid drug.

This is a very true statement.


I used to have a $300/month herb habit. It's deffinetly addicting. I dont' smoke that much now, and I take regular breaks.

All things in moderation is the key. Like having a beer with some friends or at dinner vs owning a flask and knocking down a 5th a day.

[MyShrimpDied]

When I had a job and money, I would smoke every day, sometimes twice a day and then about 4 or 5 times every day during the weekend. I was a lazy good for nothin' and my drumming suffered immensly because of it.

Moderation is key.

[Loser]

I've heard of LSD overdose. Long story short: My friend was on acid, running up and down queen street in auckland (the main city/busy-at-night street). Anyway, he was running around, away from all these mathematically incorrect geometric shapes and and then he started to feel he was on fire, so he took all his clothes off and continued running around (in amongst all the nightclubs, etc).

Eventually he ran back to his apartment not too far away and continued running up and down stairs into peoples rooms, etc. In the end they called the police and he was taken to a cell to sit out the effects. (ensue loads more hilarity involving camera's in the cell, underneath the bed and other such things). In the morning they warned him of the dangers of LSD, ie. the government has no control over how strong each dose is, etc. They also warned him of overdosing, saying it was getting more common amongst LSD users.

then they let him go and he flew to america that morning while still slightly high.

Well, he should have had a sitter. The fire thing was probably either in his mind, or from dehydration from running around a lot.

[Win A Rabbit]

One of my friends spends easily $100 a month on pot, but he's slowed down now due to him quitting his job. Once he gets another job, I'm sure it'll shoot right back up. :lol:

One time his parents left for a week, and he walked around his whole house smoking pot in every room, just because he wanted to. :lol:

[xizoesira]

Drumming on mushrooms would be tough, coordination gets ****ed for hours. After you come down is a perfect time though, your mind is absolutely clear.

[MyShrimpDied]

I have a friend who used to spend 600 bones a week on pot, he has since decreased his intake.

I do however know one guy who smokes an 1/8 a day.

[Loyton]

I have a friend who used to spend 600 bones a week on pot, he has since decreased his intake.

I do however know one guy who smokes an 1/8 a day.

Smoking the herb equivalent of 600 a week is quite impossible for one person.

[Det_Nosnip]

This is a very true statement.


I used to have a $300/month herb habit. It's deffinetly addicting. I dont' smoke that much now, and I take regular breaks.

All things in moderation is the key. Like having a beer with some friends or at dinner vs owning a flask and knocking down a 5th a day.

Yeppers.

[seivad]

i still wish i could see him solo...obviously hes a talented drummer but i keep hearing people talk about his amazing chops and stuff like that but ive never seen anything to back it up =/

wahhh? listen to all the tool albums especially Lateralus, u have to LISTEN not SEE, then you will realise why he is a chop making machine. Remember that what he does is really difficult yet it suits the music very much, plus it was recorded! recording is a whole other world. Danny C is the man, an idol.

[Godzilla]

I have a friend who used to spend 600 bones a week on pot, he has since decreased his intake.

I do however know one guy who smokes an 1/8 a day.

Yeah, I have a friend that smokes soooo much it's ridiculous. He spends like 220 a week on weed, and sells about 70 dollars of it, and smokes the rest. He must have like 8-10 bong/bubbler/vaporizer sessions a day.

[Det_Nosnip]

plus it was recorded! recording is a whole other world. You're right - a world in which you have multiple takes, pro tools, and ideal acoustic environments. I find it alot more impressive that he (and the band) can pull this off so damn well live.

[Huber]

Off-topic (but not really).

I saw Tool last night and got to see Danny Carey pwn drums.

[MerDeNoms]

The Pot - Talks about weed in the song.

Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) - Albert Hofmann, the man who first synthesized LSD in 1943 in Stockholm, Sweden. Basically the inventor of LSD.

Rosetta Stoned - That one should be pretty obvious.

Plus, on Aenema, during the beginning of Third Eye, there is a sound clip from comedian Bill Hicks saying: "If you don't believe drugs have done good things for people I want you to take all your old records and burn em. Because the people who made em were reeeeeaaaalllll ****in' high on drugs," or something similar to that

Also the song, or track I should say, Die Eier von Satan on Aenema is a hash cookie recipe spoken in German.



Do you not realize that almost all of there song titles/interpretations/lyrics are symbolic, and not meant to be taken literally?


The Pot- my guess is that it is shot against hypocracy.

Rosetta Stoned- Have you even read the lyrics? They are about an alien abduction, and have strong influences of Scientology throughout them. Not sure what to make of them.

And again, anyone who takes any member of Tool seriously in what they say is a moron. They are always screwing with peoples minds for their own entertainment, and it is really funny to see people fall for what they say. Third Eye is about seeing things from different and new perspectives, so trhe drug references are in there. Die Eir Von Satan is a joke. It is meant to throw people off with the heavy German chanting and the crowd going crazy. My guess is that they wanted to throw people off into thinking it was like, a National Socialist group performing a Satanic ritual.. haha.

[CARMEN77]

Off-topic (but not really).

I saw Tool last night and got to see Danny Carey pwn drums.

DId isis and tool play any songs together? That would ****ing rule. I GET TO SEE THEM IN 3 DAYS ADIFNidnjnfa

[Josiah]

Smoking the herb equivalent of 600 a week is quite impossible for one person.

Haha yea, unless they are getting ripped off. That's amount would make your dumb soon.

Not to mention, that's 2,400/month in pot.


I'd LOVE to know how someone could afford over 2 grand a month in pot to SMOKE and still be concious enough to make that money, and of course then some cause you have to eat and rent, etc...

[MyShrimpDied]

The kid lived at home and didn't have to pay for rent and food, spent all his money on pot. I don't think that's impossible, people's habits can't get completely out of control, and when you're smoking 6 or 7 times a day your tolerance goes WAY up and you need a lot more to be satisfied. The kid probably needed about 3 bowls to himself to actually get there.

[Josiah]

That would still require a 40 hour a week job at almost $20/hour just for the pot...

[Godzilla]

Haha yea, unless they are getting ripped off. That's amount would make your dumb soon.

Not to mention, that's 2,400/month in pot.


I'd LOVE to know how someone could afford over 2 grand a month in pot to SMOKE and still be concious enough to make that money, and of course then some cause you have to eat and rent, etc...

Haha, seriously... that is a ****load of weed. You would be retarded in less than a month if you smoked that much.

[MyShrimpDied]

You can make a lot of money when you deal weed.

[Lunch]

Yea, that's really the only way to support the habbit after a certain point.

[Det_Nosnip]

Wonderful.

[Loser]

You know, you could afford it if you win the lottery.

[Josiah]

You can make a lot of money when you deal weed.


Haha no you can't. Perhaps at the very large levels of play, talking major play.


Though I guess it depends what you consider "a lot". I've worked the math out myself, and have many opportunities to go into the business - and never have.

[isp_of_doom]

You can make a lot of money when you deal weed.

dealing... no trust me.. theres basically no money in that.
growing, now thats another matter.

They are always screwing with peoples minds for their own entertainment

I think thats very true, but I cant see them going on forums going "Hahaha, this kid thinks this song is about _______". I think they just like to add mystery to their image and leave things to mean what people want them to mean. The lyrics posted earlier to Rosetta Stoned imo and incredibly well crafted in the context of the song, and yes they appear to be about being high, on first read through...

Tool are fascinating as far as how to market a product to entice as large an audience as possible.

[aznriceball]

his drummerworld profile doesn't mention his crazy basketball skills either. danny could have gone pro if he wantted.

I didn't expect to see Carey in a jersy, or Maynard in a cowboy hat. I wonder if the bozo that threw a bottle at Maynards head is in the hospital or not..


The Pot - Talks about weed in the song.

Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) - Albert Hofmann, the man who first synthesized LSD in 1943 in Stockholm, Sweden. Basically the inventor of LSD.

Rosetta Stoned - That one should be pretty obvious.

Plus, on Aenema, during the beginning of Third Eye, there is a sound clip from comedian Bill Hicks saying: "If you don't believe drugs have done good things for people I want you to take all your old records and burn em. Because the people who made em were reeeeeaaaalllll ****in' high on drugs," or something similar to that

Also the song, or track I should say, Die Eier von Satan on Aenema is a hash cookie recipe spoken in German.

Maynard is not a big fan of religion or politics, the actual message of rosetta stoned and the pot. Nubcake.

**edit: i forgot how to read >.<

[Futuro]

Figures a Tool/Danny Carey thread turns into drug discussion. :lol:

[will66]

[QUOTE=isp_of_doom;13231111]dealing... no trust me.. theres basically no money in that.
growing, now thats another matter.QUOTE]

If you grow it don't you have to deal it once your done growing it.......

[We_Love_Lime]

You give it to people who deal it.

Watch the City of God.

Even though it has nothing to do with Growing Weed.

You should just watch it anyways.