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iamreprogramed
08-20-2006, 12:43 AM
Behringer BX4500H Ultrabass Bass
so i'm thinking about selling a good chunk of my gear and getting a new head. does anyone here have this head? and if so can i get some opinions? i'm selling most of my stuff due to college and bills. however, if i have enough cash left over, then i might invest in this depending on what i hear about it. otherwise i will continue onward with my looking..
EDIT: has anyone recorded with it? i was just wondering how the direct out handles.. i usually record two bass tracks (miced, and direct out).
HELLonWHEELS
08-20-2006, 12:58 AM
Read the reviews.I haven't ever heard anything good about behringer exept for the price.
Reviews at
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-BX4500H-Ultrabass-Bass-Head?sku=481090
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Bass+Amp/product/Behringer/BX4500H+Head/10/1
jordan-z
08-20-2006, 01:06 AM
I bought the head a couple of months ago and have had no problems with it. Theres some good features but its nothing REALLY GREAT (besides price). The tone is nice and I especially like the shape feature. I'll post some soundclips tomorrow for you. :)
Sammy_L_D
08-20-2006, 01:10 AM
It's THE best musical instrument related product that Behringer makes, hands down.
For the price, you can't beat it, period.
HELLonWHEELS
08-20-2006, 01:17 AM
It's THE best musical instrument related product that Behringer makes, hands down.
For the price, you can't beat it, period.
I read some of the reviews at both musicians friend and harmoney central and they all said they would never buy this amp again. Go for something used because if you don't like then you can sell if near the same price oyu bought it for
Mr. Pickle
08-20-2006, 01:23 AM
most of the time, the musiciansfriend and harmony central reviews are crap.
i owned the bx3000t, which to my knowledge is the same as this head except for the wattage difference. i have owned two pieces of behringer gear, and there have been two other members of my band that have own some behringer gear. NONE of us had/have any problems with anything. we're not extremely rough with our gear, but we by no means baby it. still, no issues at all. i emphasize this the most b/c you'll probably hear tons of stories on here about people having trouble with their behringer stuff. having known numerous people (in person) who have owned or still own behringer gear and have had zero problems with them, i find it kind of fishy that so many people ON HERE have had so many problems with their stuff. i'm sure some have, but i also highly believe that some are just behringer haters, because it's far from cool to like behringer and it makes people think they know what they're talking about. (again, this doesn't apply to everyone)
now, i am by no means a behringer fanboy, i just hate how the company is so widely portrayed on here. there's a reason i don't have my behringer combo or head anymore, their tone is nothing special... it was pretty stale and didn't have a whole lot of definition on any of the frequencies, except the bass was decent. assuming this head still comes with the ultrabass feature, i found it pretty useless. now, assuming it comes with the shape function, i really, really miss that function. i loved how it sounded with a pick, one of my biggest regrets with giving up my behringer stuff.
i used the built in DI at a show once. worked fine, but i guess i'm not really sure what you mean when you ask how it 'handles.'
Mr. Pickle
08-20-2006, 01:25 AM
It's THE best musical instrument related product that Behringer makes, hands down.
i'd say the ultragain ada8000 personally.
HELLonWHEELS
08-20-2006, 01:35 AM
You know the Ashdown is only $50 more i think its worth it, but that just my opinion
ak50324
08-20-2006, 02:34 AM
and the Gallien-kruegar is the same price, but actually has good tone.:smash:
If you don't care bout tone, get the Behringer, and an effect pedal(EQ or save for the Vamp)
Mr. Pickle
08-20-2006, 03:16 AM
assuming you're talking about the backline, the tone is not very impressive on those at all... i'm not saying it's better or worse than the behringer, but i'd rather save the $50 and get the extra wattage with the behringer.
pitchfork
08-20-2006, 06:07 AM
You can get some seriously better heads in that price range.
Warwick profet, yamaha bbt500h if you get one from thomann, second hand hartke. etc.
The behringer has horrible tone.
If you want something worth its salt don't go behringer, you'll end up upgrading.
Try and get a yamaha bbt500h, awesome heads and you can get them for about £250 on thomann.
iamreprogramed
08-20-2006, 02:00 PM
hmm i got some thinking to do now. thank you for all of the feedback so far, by the way.
i have a gk backline 250 right now. i'm not a big fan of the tone, though. i mean i can get it close to what i want, but it's never quite as clear as i would like it.
i might just save up and get something like an ampeg, or a fender because i know that i like the tones i can get with them. who knows right now. i think if i have the spare time this week, then i might head down to guitar center and check out lots of heads and prices.
thanks again! :thumb:
The JoZ
08-20-2006, 02:27 PM
I own and use this head now, and for the price, I love it.
It has a ton off bass in it, and the tone shaping isn't as bad as many people make it out to be. I do wish it was a little warmer at times, but that may also have to do with my pedal settings.
The deep and bright functions are especially useful.
It's only a 450W head though, just so you know. And while it's loud, it's not like 1000W or something.
If you need something now, go for it, I think it's worth it. I know several other bassists in bands around here who own or have previously used it for similar reasons.
It's worth using, even if only as a stepping stone.
thelowsoundofbass
08-20-2006, 03:05 PM
I almost bought one a few years back because I liked it. I ended up deciding to not get a half stack because of money issues. Because of the price I would still most likely buy it, or get a used peavey head off of ebay. Also check used, if you are willing to wait, you can get some great deals.
lowsound
WhoDidTheElf
08-20-2006, 03:25 PM
I have a BX3000T. For the money you can't beat it. If you don't think it's warm enough you can get a tube preamp infront of it or do what I did and put the sansamp DI infront of it. Sounds exceptionally good now.
If it's any thing like it's little brother it will be plenty loud. It has some nice features but can get over bassy quite easy.
And I've owned mine for over 2 years. It's been fine the whole time. I push it quite offten and it seems to do fine.
funkyhoney
08-21-2006, 08:08 AM
i have the 4500, its powerful, has some nifty features, won't be beaten on price.
there are heads out there for the same price that will be better, but its a matter of how much power you need, and no i don't have recordings, i can't recording through amps, i get to much feedback.
pitchfork
08-21-2006, 11:11 AM
Remember watts don't = volume.
100 watts through a good cab could be louder than 1000 watts through a **** cab.
You ar ebetter off getting a bass vamp and a power amp if you have your heart set on behringer.
Mr. Pickle
08-21-2006, 05:25 PM
that would probably cost more than the head...
WhoDidTheElf
08-21-2006, 07:11 PM
Yeah he seems to want this for bugget decent tone. Which is what behringer is.
The JoZ
08-21-2006, 08:39 PM
Remember watts don't = volume.
100 watts through a good cab could be louder than 1000 watts through a **** cab.
You ar ebetter off getting a bass vamp and a power amp if you have your heart set on behringer.
Maybe, but 450 watts through a cab that can handle 2000 is seriously underpowering it...
The cab is wonderful so yeah.
/semi offtopic.
iamreprogramed
08-21-2006, 11:47 PM
Yeah he seems to want this for bugget decent tone. Which is what behringer is.
..i'm a girl. :wave:
you were right about the budget tone, though. that's why i was looking into it.
i really don't need a new gigging amp for about a year, since the other half of my band moved across the country. we won't be able to play shows again until i move out there. i just wanted to start shopping around now so that if i decide to get a more expensive amp, then i have plenty of time to gather the money.
just doin my research..
HELLonWHEELS
08-22-2006, 12:13 AM
Maybe, but 450 watts through a cab that can handle 2000 is seriously underpowering it...
The cab is wonderful so yeah.
/semi offtopic.
thats not what he means by watts don't equal volume. It has to do with the SPL level of the speakers in the cab which has nothing to do with how many watts the cab can handle
WhoDidTheElf
08-22-2006, 12:25 AM
..i'm a girl. :wave:
you were right about the budget tone, though. that's why i was looking into it.
i really don't need a new gigging amp for about a year, since the other half of my band moved across the country. we won't be able to play shows again until i move out there. i just wanted to start shopping around now so that if i decide to get a more expensive amp, then i have plenty of time to gather the money.
just doin my research..
Sorry :/
But for the money I don't think you can really do better unless you score a vintage Ampeg at a pawn shop for like 200$. But the odds of that happening are like slim to none...
Anyways, if the tone that's comming out of it isn't as great as you would like it to be you can do what I did and put a tube/tube emulater pre amp infront. In really really improves the tone and overall warmth of the amp.
sunshineplaysbass
08-22-2006, 01:42 AM
one of the best words of advice i ever recieved when it comes to buying music gear: "always try and buy what you think is a little out of your range. that way, you will have a good one for a long time, if not for life."
thelowsoundofbass
08-22-2006, 02:19 AM
thats not what he means by watts don't equal volume. It has to do with the SPL level of the speakers in the cab which has nothing to do with how many watts the cab can handle
SPL= sound pressure level. This is measured out side of the cab in a closed space, such as a recording studio or a car. There is no such thing as a SPL level of a speaker. You could hit 150 dbls with a certain set up in a car, but move it to a bigger area and it will decrease. SPL has to do with the room that the speakers are in.
Volume has several variables such as watts, speaker surface area, the resistance ect.
lowsound
HELLonWHEELS
08-22-2006, 03:05 AM
I meant Db
thelowsoundofbass
08-22-2006, 03:10 AM
I meant Db
SPL is measured in decibels. There is no decibel rating on a speaker either.
lowsound
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