lol discuss what would happen if zero were president

[The End]

omgomg

zero what do you propose doing? this should be a laugh

[Hababi]

Then I could order the death squads :evil:...

Errr...

Actually the proposals I would push for would be:
1) national health care plan
2) ban on all abortions except in cases of rape and where the mother's life is in danger.
3) Lock raises in the minimum wage to increases in the inflation rate
4) push for the US to enter into the Kyoto protocol agreement

You know that type of evil stuff. In between using Muslims as target practice and stuff.

[Hababi]

And then the first presidential assassination in forever..

Dude 44 years is not forever :o

[ringworm]

The country would be a much safer place, as long as u agree with him.

:/ Slightly agrees with Zero

[The End]

zero go respond to my post in the muslim check line at airports thread

[Hababi]

Oh yeah and I'd push through a plan to emphasize public transportation in major cities and cut down on smog and car traffic.

And I'd dramatically change public housing programs to essentially eliminate section 8 tenements.

And crack down on welfare fraud, to cut at least 40% off that payroll. And disability claims, to cut say 20% off that.


zero go respond to my post in the muslim check line at airports thread


If you wanted me to respond to that why'd you make a whole new thread for me to concentrate on my presidential proposals :p


Additionally:
1) Ban all members of the PLO from stepping foot on American territory
2) Quickly try and execute all convicted Iraqi insurgents
3) Make rape a capital crime
4) Sign an executive order barring any state from redefining marriage
5) Change affirmative action laws to be based solely on economic situation, not race.

[The End]

Oh yeah and I'd push through a plan to emphasize public transportation in major cities and cut down on smog and car traffic.

And I'd dramatically change public housing programs to essentially eliminate section 8 tenements.

And crack down on welfare fraud, to cut at least 40% off that payroll. And disability claims, to cut say 20% off that.



If you wanted me to respond to that why'd you make a whole new thread for me to concentrate on my presidential proposals :p


Additionally:
1) Ban all members of the PLO from stepping foot on American territory
2) Quickly try and execute all convicted Iraqi insurgents
3) Make rape a capital crime
4) Sign an executive order barring any state from redefining marriage

wtf @ numbers 1 and 2... 3 and 4 i agree with

[Hababi]

wtf @ numbers 1 and 2... 3 and 4 i agree with

That's why I love dabbling in left and right ideas--Most everyone on here will probably agree with almost half of my proposals, at least :p

[The End]

That's why I love dabbling in left and right ideas--Most everyone on here will probably agree with almost half of my proposals, at least :p

yeh, but why ban members of the PLO from entering America? They're enemy is Israel, not the USA, as they've stated before.

[Samuel]

Additionally:
1) Ban all members of the PLO from stepping foot on American territory
2) Quickly try and execute all convicted Iraqi insurgents
3) Make rape a capital crime
4) Sign an executive order barring any state from redefining marriage
5) Change affirmative action laws to be based solely on economic situation, not race.
One out of five. Higher than the current real life proposals, I suppose.

What's your stance on drug and gun control issues?

[Hababi]

Even more proposals

1) Set up an independent panel to update election districts after every census, thereby taking it out of the hands of congress and essentially eliminating gerrymandering.
2) Freeze all federally elected officials pay for 5 years, then lock increases to inflation.
3) Ban all private campaign donations and make all campaigns of state and federal office be publically funded.


yeh, but why ban members of the PLO from entering America? They're enemy is Israel, not the USA, as they've stated before.


Any enemy of Israel is also an enemy of America. The PLO also hates America, and that's why they burn American flags alongside Israel's at demonstrations.


One out of five. Higher than the current real life proposals, I suppose.

What's your stance on drug and gun control issues?

Drugs: legalize marijuana for home use, particularly for medical use. Put nonviolent hard drug offenders in rehab, not jail.
Gun control: Have all guns be licensed, keep automatic assault weapons banned. I'm basically moderately pro gun.

[Samuel]

Even more proposals

1) Set up an independent panel to update election districts after every census, thereby taking it out of the hands of congress and essentially eliminating gerrymandering.
2) Freeze all federally elected officials pay for 5 years, then lock increases to inflation.
3) Ban all private campaign donations and make all campaigns of state and federal office be publically funded.
Hahaha. And that just killed most of the congressional support you had.

That's going to be a long four years, man.

[Hababi]

Hahaha. And that just killed most of the congressional support you had.


:lol: True, but those are good proposals, aren't they? :p

[ringworm]

If you wanted me to respond to that why'd you make a whole new thread for me to concentrate on my presidential proposals
You crack me up up man. :chug:

[The End]

Even more proposals

1) Set up an independent panel to update election districts after every census, thereby taking it out of the hands of congress and essentially eliminating gerrymandering.
2) Freeze all federally elected officials pay for 5 years, then lock increases to inflation.
3) Ban all private campaign donations and make all campaigns of state and federal office be publically funded.



Any enemy of Israel is also an enemy of America. The PLO also hates America, and that's why they burn American flags alongside Israel's at demonstrations.



Drugs: legalize marijuana for home use, particularly for medical use. Put nonviolent hard drug offenders in rehab, not jail.
Gun control: Have all guns be licensed, keep automatic assault weapons banned.

heh... then you might as well make all arab states enemies of america. as for the flag burning, sometimes it's necessary to make a statement. it's better than killing american civilians isn't it?

[Hababi]

heh... then you might as well make all arab states enemies of america.


Well they're not exactly friends :p


as for the flag burning, sometimes it's necessary to make a statement. it's better than killing american civilians isn't it?

It still shows that they hate America along with Israel...

Kind of like Noam Chomsky :o

Couldn't pass it up.

[The End]

Well they're not exactly friends :p



It still shows that they hate America along with Israel...

Kind of like Noam Chomsky :o

Couldn't pass it up.

egypt, jordan, saudi arabia, kuwait, the UAE... all friends

and a lot of coutries hate america hahah, its not a crime to do so

[Hababi]

egypt, jordan, saudi arabia, kuwait, the UAE... all friends


Kuwait's somewhat a friend...the rest are duplicitous.

But I'll restate my earlier point tobe more concise: members of any organization that engages in or proposes violence against Israel in any way are banned from America.


and a lot of coutries hate america hahah, its not a crime to do so


No but they can still be punished.

[The End]

Kuwait's somewhat a friend...the rest are duplicitous.

But I'll restate my earlier point tobe more concise: members of any organization that engages in or proposes violence against Israel in any way are banned from America.



No but they can still be punished.

what do you do if the majority of americans start supporting Palestinians over Israel? not saying that's going to happen, but what if it did..?

[ringworm]

What are we to do with Military spending Mr. President?

[Hababi]

what do you do if the majority of americans start supporting Palestinians over Israel? not saying that's going to happen, but what if it did..?

Well as you intoned, that's never, ever going to happen, and if it would, I wouldn't be elected ;) And if it somehow happened while I was president, tough crap. I govern on principles, not blind populism.


What are we to do with Military spending Mr. President?


Prosecute Haliburton and force them to give back the $1 billion they overcharged America (and some additional $$, as punishment). Go after all the other companies that overcharged in similar fashion. Take the money and put it toward better pay for enlisted soldiers and better care for wounded ones, particularly national guard members.

Shift funding away from Cold War era programs toward more anti terrorism measures, particularly better intelligence gathering measures.

All in all, no drop in military funding, just more effective use of it.

[The End]

Well as you intoned, that's never, ever going to happen, and if it would, I wouldn't be elected ;) And if it somehow happened while I was president, tough crap. I govern on principles, not blind populism.

well you never know, with the growing number of Muslim immigrants to america, how can you be sure? and if the majority feels a certain way, isn't it in the nature of democracy to take this into account and change accordingly?

[Hababi]

well you never know, with the growing number of Muslim immigrants to america,


We can cut down on that :D

Here's the way: Cut down on the number of immigrants allowed from middle eastern countries, and in turn increase the number of Hispanic immigrants allowed in each year. Put all current illegal immigrants that are here and working on a path toward citizenship.


how can you be sure? and if the majority feels a certain way, isn't it in the nature of democracy to take this into account and change accordingly?

Not really, no. In a Republic, people elect representatives to govern for them. If we wanted the people themselves to govern, we'd have direct democracy. And we'd be dead.




Oh and another proposal: Have bilingual education in schools. Everyone should speak English, but also know Spanish.

[Hababi]

Are you going to attack Iran?

No, not yet anyway. Pursue all possible non confrontational ways to get them to stop their nuclear program. If that doesn't work, build a coalition force to blockade their ports and force them, economically, to stop nuclear development.

Oh and if that doesn't work then bomb everything that looks like a nuke plant :p But the blockades and other such proposals would do the trick.




As for Iraq: Partition it into three different nations and tell Turkey to go screw themselves if they don't like the Kurds having a homeland. Each one has autonomy and they have some level of economic cooperation and oil revenue sharing.

[The End]

We can cut down on that :D

Here's the way: Cut down on the number of immigrants allowed from middle eastern countries, and in turn increase the number of Hispanic immigrants allowed in each year. Put all current illegal immigrants that are here and working on a path toward citizenship.



Not really, no. In a Republic, people elect representatives to govern for them. If we wanted the people themselves to govern, we'd have direct democracy. And we'd be dead.




Oh and another proposal: Have bilingual education in schools. Everyone should speak English, but also know Spanish.


ok that is absolutely ridiculous to refuse one group of people immigration based on their ethnicity but allow another group to increase immigration. thats blind bigotry. sorry buddy, thats just ****ed up to be honest with you.

[Hababi]

ok that is absolutely ridiculous to refuse one group of people immigration based on their ethnicity but allow another group to increase immigration. thats blind bigotry. sorry buddy, thats just ****ed up to be honest with you.

I didn't say refuse, I just said adjust the levels :p I wouldn't ban folks from those nations from coming in, just lessen their levels to allow more Hispanic immigrants to come in, particularly since we have so many ones not on the books here already. You have to have some control on the number of immigrants that come to your country each year. Not one of those "negative population growth" ones, just a reasonable one.

But yeah, I want an influx of Catholics into the country :cool:

[The End]

I didn't say refuse, I just said adjust the levels :p I wouldn't ban folks from those nations from coming in, just lessen their levels to allow more Hispanic immigrants to come in, particularly since we have so many ones not on the books here already. You have to have some control on the number of immigrants that come to your country each year. Not one of those "negative population growth" ones, just a reasonable one.

But yeah, I want an influx of Catholics into the country :cool:

dude i have a lot of Muslim friends that don't mind the west at all, and would be just as good citizens as Catholics. by the way, you realise a lot of hispanics are Muslim?

[Hababi]

dude i have a lot of Muslim friends that don't mind the west at all, and would be just as good citizens as Catholics. by the way, you realise a lot of hispanics are Muslim?

I think there's one South American country that is significantly Muslim. Mexico is overwhelmingly Catholic. So are most of the other countries.

[The End]

I think there's one South American country that is significantly Muslim. Mexico is overwhelmingly Catholic. So are most of the other countries.

so let me ask you a question: as a total stranger, based on what you know about me, what do you think of me? would you let me immigrate into the US?

[Amit]

I think there's one South American country that is significantly Muslim. Mexico is overwhelmingly Catholic. So are most of the other countries.

mexico is also overwhelmingly hispanic

i thought the united states was supposed to be the shining paragon of tolerance and diversity that all other nations should aspire to emulate

[Hababi]

mexico is also overwhelmingly hispanic


:eek: You don't say!!!



so let me ask you a question: as a total stranger, based on what you know about me, what do you think of me? would you let me immigrate into the US?


Depends the current immigration levels from your country. And your qualifications.

[Amit]

:eek: You don't say!!!

but then again the us is also on the path to that as well :lol:

[Hababi]

but then again the us is also on the path to that as well :lol:

Why do you think I mentioned bilingual education? :p

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

More like the first presidential cookie stealing in 44 years.

[Otherside]

but then again the us is also on the path to that as well :lol:

you got beef? :mad:

[Amit]

no remember cows are sacred >:[

[Otherside]

you win.. this time

>:|

[Amit]

and besides if i don't win this time i'll just wait until the next reincarnation :cool:

[masada]

what if you're reincarnated as an inanimate object?

[Surgicalgod]

If Zero was president I'd make sure he gets assassinated because I'm a terrorist.

[Amit]

what if you're reincarnated as an inanimate object?

my karma's too high for that

[Steerpike]

4) Sign an executive order barring any state from redefining marriage

Wouldn't that technically be unconstitutional because it's removing the power of the states to make this decision for themselves? And either way you also wouldn't be able to retroactively annul the marriages that have taken place in Massachussetts because the Constitution clearly states no ex post facto.

Any enemy of Israel is also an enemy of America.

But how do you morally justify Israel's tactics? Do you really want to send out the image that America plays favorites when it comes to reprehensible tactics and atrocities in a time of battle?

It still shows that they hate America along with Israel...

So the only way for anyone to come to our country is to kiss our ass? Doesn't that sound like separatism to you?

No but they can still be punished.

That sounds less like punishment and more like schoolyard pettiness.

Here's the way: Cut down on the number of immigrants allowed from middle eastern countries, and in turn increase the number of Hispanic immigrants allowed in each year. Put all current illegal immigrants that are here and working on a path toward citizenship.

Sounds to me like you're playing favorites based on paranoia faulty logic.

Not really, no. In a Republic, people elect representatives to govern for them. If we wanted the people themselves to govern, we'd have direct democracy. And we'd be dead.

The Us government is technically a democratic republic.

[ringworm]

If Zero was president I'd make sure he gets assassinated because I'm a terrorist.
The President & I already had you under surveilance so there is no threat. :p

[Surgicalgod]

The President & I already had you under surveilance so there is no threat. :p

I'll get the gice to do it. lol

[Hababi]

Wouldn't that technically be unconstitutional because it's removing the power of the states to make this decision for themselves?


Not really because it's not a matter defined as a states issue. The executive office would have precedence there.


And either way you also wouldn't be able to retroactively annul the marriages that have taken place in Massachussetts because the Constitution clearly states no ex post facto.


Yeah but in a few years that won't matter because they're already starting to divorce.


But how do you morally justify Israel's tactics?


Quite easily :p Israel wasn't aggressive enough against Hezbollah.


Do you really want to send out the image that America plays favorites when it comes to reprehensible tactics and atrocities in a time of battle?


Israel committs no atrocities.


So the only way for anyone to come to our country is to kiss our ass? Doesn't that sound like separatism to you?


No, it's just a matter of who's going to be an ally of the only democratic government in the middle east.




The Us government is technically a democratic republic.

Democratic in spirit, republic in operation.

[Steerpike]

Not really because it's not a matter defined as a states issue. The executive office would have precedence there.

Yeah but in a few years that won't matter because they're already starting to divorce.

Forgot who I was talking to for a second there. That's the trouble with the gay marriage debate. The side opposing it doesn't speak fact.

Quite easily :p Israel wasn't aggressive enough against Hezbollah.

Israel committs no atrocities.

As if the gay thing weren't enough, this would cause you to thoroughly lose my vote.

No, it's just a matter of who's going to be an ally of the only democratic government in the middle east.

I'll go let China know that you don't want anymore chinks in the country and we're cutting off trade relations until they're ready to stop being commies.

[Hababi]

As if the gay thing weren't enough, this would cause you to thoroughly lose my vote.

Dude come on I wouldn't have your vote anyway :p

But the majority of the American public feels as I do, or stronger.


I'll go let China know that you don't want anymore chinks in the country and we're cutting off trade relations until they're ready to stop being commies.

It's also based on who you can afford to talk tough with. Of course, no matter what, I'd support Taiwan independence.



Forgot who I was talking to for a second there. That's the trouble with the gay marriage debate. The side opposing it doesn't speak fact.


The first "couple" to get married openly proclaimed their "marriage" to be an open one. They had no intent on being faithful to one another, they just wanted to force people to approve of their deviancy.

Oh, and another provision: Government sponsored programs for all sexual deviants to get treatment toward living normal, productive lifestyles.

[Jude]

The first "couple" to get married openly proclaimed their "marriage" to be an open one. They had no intent on being faithful to one another, they just wanted to force people to approve of their deviancy.

Straight couples can be "open" too. And how does being officially married force anyone to approve?

[Amit]

guys stop entertaining zero plz

[Steerpike]

The first "couple" to get married openly proclaimed their "marriage" to be an open one. They had no intent on being faithful to one another, they just wanted to force people to approve of their deviancy.

There are lots of straight people who do that, too. Where the hell have you been?

Oh, and another provision: Government sponsored programs for all sexual deviants to get treatment toward living normal, productive lifestyles.

In other words, straight camp. Brazil tried that. It bombed. You're trying to argue with science, and science has facts on their side.

[Hababi]

Straight couples can be "open" too. And how does being officially married force anyone to approve?

It forced Catholic adoption agencies to give children to gays, and it makes the government legally say, "homosexuality is A ok and just as good as heterosexuality."

And while straight couples can be open too, it's much more common in deviant circles.



In other words, straight camp. Brazil tried that. It bombed. You're trying to argue with science, and science has facts on their side.


There's plenty of science to say anyone can overcome sexual deviancy to live a normal lifestyle. Plenty of pedophiles are counciled out of deviancy.


guys stop entertaining zero plz


Have you asked your dad the cold question yet? :(

[Audiopond]

Then I could order the death squads :evil:...

Errr...

Actually the proposals I would push for would be:
1) national health care plan
2) ban on all abortions except in cases of rape and where the mother's life is in danger.
3) Lock raises in the minimum wage to increases in the inflation rate
4) push for the US to enter into the Kyoto protocol agreement

You know that type of evil stuff. In between using Muslims as target practice and stuff.

Hahaha

[Jude]

guys stop entertaining zero plz
Zero entertains ME not vice versa ! :angry:

It forced Catholic adoption agencies to give children to gays
Well I don't think the government should be able to force anyone to give kids to anyone


and it makes the government legally say, "homosexuality is A ok and just as good as heterosexuality."
No, it just makes the government say "this is not something we need to regulate."

[Hababi]

Zero entertains ME not vice versa ! :angry:

Well, usually not...Except for when I get those signature Jude posts.:smash:

[griftadan]

That's why I love dabbling in left and right ideas--Most everyone on here will probably agree with almost half of my proposals, at least :p


except for me, you dirty populist.

[Jude]

Well, usually not...Except for when I get those signature Jude posts.

Which ones are those?

Is that when I type in all caps and curse you for not understanding the concept of writing a book on certain subjects and not others?

[Hababi]

except for me, you dirty populist.

Haha come on, you have to be able to find something in there :p.



Which ones are those?

Is that when I type in all caps and curse you for not understanding the concept of writing a book on certain subjects and not others?


Kind of. The ones that start with a thousand words, then have 100 words CAPS LOCKED, then another 800 normal. With lots of !!!!!'s

[Amit]

haha those are hilarious no matter what forum you're on

[griftadan]

Haha come on, you have to be able to find something in there .

ok

1) national health care plan

oh god no.

2) ban on all abortions except in cases of rape and where the mother's life is in danger.

not really no.

3) Lock raises in the minimum wage to increases in the inflation rate

no but lol

4) push for the US to enter into the Kyoto protocol agreement

no

[Jude]

Kind of. The ones that start with a thousand words, then have 100 words CAPS LOCKED, then another 800 normal. With lots of !!!!!'s
There aren't any with lots of !!!!!!!'s. I practically never use those. But yeah I know the post you're thinking of, only I had a brain fart and I can't find it to link to it even though I just checked that thread like 5 minutes ago.

And plus I only do those when you're saying something retarded over and over :\

[Hababi]

ok



oh god no.



not really no.



no but lol



no

Keep going, there's plenty more proposals :o


And plus I only do those when you're saying something retarded over and over :\


Sometimes I do that just to set you off :p It's like winding up a jack in the box--wind it enough times and it's gonna explode!

[Jude]

Here's the one I was thinking of http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13051558&postcount=147

[Hababi]

It's like a good, dramatic symphony only you misplaced the climax in the middle:
"WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU YOU ****ING RETARD

CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF A BOOK WHICH FOCUSES ON SOME EVENTS RATHER THAN OTHERS"

You're supposed to have that toward the end. The middle is supposed to be quieter.

[griftadan]

1) Ban all members of the PLO from stepping foot on American territory

meh

2) Quickly try and execute all convicted Iraqi insurgents

i'd rather not make them martyrs

3) Make rape a capital crime

no incremented punishments are a good thing.

4) Sign an executive order barring any state from redefining marriage

holy constitution batman

5) Change affirmative action laws to be based solely on economic situation, not race.

so instead of underqualified black people getting jobs underqualified poor people will be getting jobs.

[Hababi]

meh



i'd rather not make them martyrs



no incremented punishments are a good thing.



holy constitution batman



so instead of underqualified black people getting jobs underqualified poor people will be getting jobs.

Well there's a few more still :o

[Jude]

It's like a good, dramatic symphony only you misplaced the climax in the middle:
"WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU YOU ****ING RETARD

CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF A BOOK WHICH FOCUSES ON SOME EVENTS RATHER THAN OTHERS"

You're supposed to have that toward the end. The middle is supposed to be quieter.
No man it's a progressive post-symphonic post. The climax goes in the middle cause that defies people's expectations.

Lunch break is over. I'm out. Here's to days when it's cool enough to sit outside and read :\ ...maybe tomorrow.

[Hababi]

No man it's a progressive post-symphonic post. The climax goes in the middle cause that defies people's expectations.

No those suck hard, like Pollock's paintings. Traditionalist is the way to go :D



Oh and I'd donate my salary (since I'd be able to make plenty of money afterward through books and such) to getting a Serenity sequel made...and then give people tax credits for going to see it ;)

[griftadan]

1) Set up an independent panel to update election districts after every census, thereby taking it out of the hands of congress and essentially eliminating gerrymandering.

how exactly are you going to make this independent? who's going to make it? you?

2) Freeze all federally elected officials pay for 5 years, then lock increases to inflation.

hey not bad

3) Ban all private campaign donations and make all campaigns of state and federal office be publically funded.

i'd rather not let those in charge decide who the next person to be in charge is

Drugs: legalize marijuana for home use, particularly for medical use. Put nonviolent hard drug offenders in rehab, not jail.

yes and no

Gun control: Have all guns be licensed, keep automatic assault weapons banned. I'm basically moderately pro gun.

no and no. i shouldn't need the governments permission to excercize my rights.

[ThePinkPanther]

so instead of underqualified black people getting jobs underqualified poor people will be getting jobs.

its more fair.

oh wait all black people are poor so it wouldn't be changing anything.

[Reaganista]

1) national health care plan
you've got to be ****ting me

2) ban on all abortions except in cases of rape and where the mother's life is in danger.
I don't see why rape justifies abortion if an accident doesn't

3) Lock raises in the minimum wage to increases in the inflation rate

why do you not want the unskilled to work

4) push for the US to enter into the Kyoto protocol agreement

I guess we should
I don't really care either way though

1) Set up an independent panel to update election districts after every census, thereby taking it out of the hands of congress and essentially eliminating gerrymandering.

I like taking any power away from congress
but I don't know if I want to give THAT power to the executive

2) Freeze all federally elected officials pay for 5 years, then lock increases to inflation.

that's a horrible idea
poorly paying public officials encourages bribery and naturally attracts less competent people

3) Ban all private campaign donations and make all campaigns of state and federal office be publically funded.
why the **** should I have to pay for campaign ads I hate watching?

[Krabsworth]

But the majority of the American public feels as I do, or stronger.




Then by all means let Iran have nukes, please.

[Hababi]

you've got to be ****ting me

We're the only industrialized country that doesn't find it immoral to let the less fortunate die when they can't afford medicine. And several European countries, including France and Germany, have better health care than us.

Oh and we pay more than them for health care, in terms of public funding, too.


I don't see why rape justifies abortion if an accident doesn't


Because rape created the possibility without the mothers consent.


why do you not want the unskilled to work


It won't cause any drop in employment. The increases would be marginal enough to assure that.



I like taking any power away from congress
but I don't know if I want to give THAT power to the executive


Well there'd have to be oversight on his selections.


that's a horrible idea
poorly paying public officials encourages bribery and naturally attracts less competent people


:lol: Poorly paying? Do you realize how much they make? And they've been increasing their own wage quite regularly while not increasing the minimum wage.


why the **** should I have to pay for campaign ads I hate watching?

So your elected officials serve you and not Haliburton.

[Surgicalgod]

But the majority of the American public feels as I do, or stronger.


Someone tell me this isn't true, please!?

[Hababi]

Someone tell me this isn't true, please!?

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=12800

We don't like terrorists here in America :p

[Surgicalgod]

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=12800

We don't like terrorists here in America :p

Of course, I didn't expect anything else. PR Israeli campaign, huge Israeli propganda machines, and biased media? It would be a good thing even if one guy who said "No".

[Hababi]

Of course, I didn't expect anything else. PR Israeli campaign, huge Israeli propganda machines, and biased media? It would be a good thing even if one guy who said "No".

:lol: Same old "Jews control the media" conspiracy line.

[Surgicalgod]

Same old "Jews control the media" conspiracy line

lol, did you even watch that movie drewhat posted once? Israelis said it themselves that they have a huge PR campaign in America. And don't try to tell me that FoxNews is not an Israeli propaganda machine.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

Fox News is not an "Israeli propaganda machine".

[deathscreamingsheep]

See, from this thread, despite the fact that I don't agree with all his policies so far I don't think Zero would be too bad in power at all.

[SubtleDagger]

I think I've agreed with maybe two of his proposals. At least he's more decisive than most people in office, I guess. I'd still probably picket against him.

[Hababi]

I think I've agreed with maybe two of his proposals. At least he's more decisive than most people in office, I guess. I'd still probably picket against him.

2? Come on man there have to be at least three :p

National health care? Kyoto protocol? minimum wage increases? :cool:

[SubtleDagger]

I'm not really concerned with those issues, though I disagree and agree slightly on some of them. There are some other ones you addressed that I think were necessary issues but your stances on them are just out of control -_-

[Hababi]

I'm not really concerned with those issues, though I disagree and agree slightly on some of them. There are some other ones you addressed that I think were necessary issues but your stances on them are just out of control -_-

:lol: Like what?

[SubtleDagger]

Banning redefinition of marriage I obviously disagree with. I understand the motivation behind freezing elected official assets and making campaigns publically funded and agree with your stance, but those methods simply won't work the way you want them to. Ban on abortions doesn't really make a lot of sense.

[Hababi]

What are your methods for campaign finance/salary reform?

[SubtleDagger]

Ha, I don't have any, I'd be a terrible politician; I just disagree with your proposals.

:smash:

[Hababi]

Ha, I don't have any, I'd be a terrible politician; I just disagree with your proposals.

:smash:

But you'd make a great opponent :p
"My opponent doesn't even have any ideas. How can you vote for him?"

[SubtleDagger]

I wouldn't run, who do you think I am John Kerry

[Hababi]

I wouldn't run, who do you think I am John Kerry

That's ok, I'll just force you to run as my puppet opponent once I eliminate democracy and force everyone to memorize the lyrics of the theme of Firefly as the new national anthem.

[Reaganista]

We're the only industrialized country that doesn't find it immoral to let the less fortunate die when they can't afford medicine. And several European countries, including France and Germany, have better health care than us.

if by better you mean more communist

Because rape created the possibility without the mothers consent.

Ok
why does that mean you get to kill jesus's precious little fetus
shouldn't she just suck it up and be thankful god made mr. rapist let her live?

It won't cause any drop in employment. The increases would be marginal enough to assure that.

No by definition it must
nt to give THAT power to the executive

Well there'd have to be oversight on his selections.

sweet let's keep piling bureacrat on bureacrat


Poorly paying? Do you realize how much they make? And they've been increasing their own wage quite regularly while not increasing the minimum wage.

they make less than a mediocre corporate lawyer could make
and a fraction of a decent lobbyist
and whether they get to keep their job or not has nothing to do with their ability to perform
it's a horribly unattractive field to get into and we should stop being surprised at our horrible politicians

So your elected officials serve you and not Haliburton.
That's what elections are for