View Full Version : Why JP shouldn't leave.
I can do this much off the top of my head.
- He knows more about basses, lutherie, and electronics than pretty much ANYONE.
- He always helps anyone out, n00b or 4+ year vet like myself.
- He treats everyone the same, and treats everyone with respect
- We need more knowledgeable guys around, not less
- He keeps us from having to deal with the assholes at Talkbass
- If I defret my bass, I'm going to need his help
- The lutherie forum in general needs his help
- He points out the gear flaws that no one else but edge and SoM would, and they're not around all the time
- He always has interesting finds and new basses to share with us
- He has owned a million basses and can give us his opinion before we buy them
- SoM would be lonely being the only 40+ guy here
- SoM and Edge would have no one to argue with
- Let's face it... the place just wouldn't be the same.
But I can't do it myself, so let's hear yours.
JP is only like 33, k?
lol
I love his lutherie work.
He is always willing to offer advice and share his knowledge with others.
I enjoy his posts and always find them informative when centred around a specific topic.
EDIT: He certainly keeps me entertained with the variety of basses he goes through. Come to think of it I have not seen one of those threads in a while.
JP, post a updated family pic if you can, please.
da_s_man13
08-03-2006, 05:01 AM
JP is leaving? Man, dont come on here for one day and im outta the loop...
PainKiller8191
08-03-2006, 05:03 AM
he got his confidence shattered in the "bass forum fads" thread it seems
don't leave JP we love you!
Soulfly666
08-03-2006, 05:10 AM
Why are people bashing him anyway? All I've ever seen him do was help people out in their time of need. That'd be jacked if he left. :(
pitchfork
08-03-2006, 05:20 AM
We need some knowledge and stuff round here, come on, JP is ace I don't know why people bash him.
Probably 12 year old kids going "OMGZ LYK U ARE RLY OLD OMGZ U IZ 40 DAT IS NOT COOL BECOZ MY M8'S SAY OLD PEEPLE ARE ALL PEDOS" or something,
In other words, stay JP!
blizzard
08-03-2006, 06:04 AM
I didn't know that JP was leaving :( One thing that does annoy is his biannual I'm shutting the business threads.
He's not leaving for sure. He said "if no one wants me around, I might as well leave". So I made this to show him otherwise.
funkyhoney
08-03-2006, 07:00 AM
who said they don't want him around?!
who said they don't want him around?!
I can't really name any specifics, he just gets the general vibe that people don't like him I guess.
funkyhoney
08-03-2006, 07:31 AM
that's rediculous, JP is my hero
what the **** is going on?
We need some knowledge and stuff round here, come on, JP is ace I don't know why people bash him.
Probably 12 year old kids going "OMGZ LYK U ARE RLY OLD OMGZ U IZ 40 DAT IS NOT COOL BECOZ MY M8'S SAY OLD PEEPLE ARE ALL PEDOS" or something,
In other words, stay JP!
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who says that? who bashes him? i've seen none of this.
lbanks
08-03-2006, 08:23 AM
I
- He keeps us from having to deal with the assholes at Talkbass
- SoM would be lonely being the only 40+ guy here
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Hey, I'm not hard to deal with!:p
good rats
08-03-2006, 08:24 AM
JP is going to leave because a bunch of kids on teh interwebz told him he's too old?
C'mon...
lbanks
08-03-2006, 08:25 AM
I can't really name any specifics, he just gets the general vibe that people don't like him I guess.
This isn't the friendliest forum for older guys.:confused:
Killer Fridge
08-03-2006, 08:38 AM
But...but...we love JP! Hes a great part of the forum (and we are entertained by the huge number of basses he goes through!).
And regarding his lutherie work - the people that bash it have nothing to base it on. The only person who can really base their judgements on his work is AP, and we've only heard nothing but good things.
Also, his Jazz that he made looks awesome :thumb:
PainKiller8191
08-03-2006, 08:42 AM
only thing wrong with the jazz is the decal, the letters need to be more bold
but there's really no room for bashing when it comes to JP's work
katana_manatee
08-03-2006, 08:57 AM
What the hell? JP of course you are wanted here, the vast majority of us really like you and you are such a great help to this forum. If a few people are saying otherwise just ignore them, you get arseholes everywhere.
tim_commerfordism
08-03-2006, 09:11 AM
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who says that? who bashes him? i've seen none of this.
Exactly...
Plus, if he wants to leave, so be it. It's not gonna be the end of the world if a member leaves a ****ing internet forum.
The Forgotten Bassist
08-03-2006, 09:23 AM
Never heard about this. The only thing I'd say to JP is jsut ignore the group of arseholes that don't want you around, the majority of people here actually do want you to stick around, you are helpfull, give us all a laugh by joining in on the coversations about how you can't keep a bass for more than about 4 monts without buying a new one.
You know you'll stay JP, look at the number of people that have said they're leaving and ended up coming back. The forums is just too cool for you to resist :P
trumpeter
08-03-2006, 12:24 PM
The assholes at TB?
I have yet to come across a single asshole at TB
Oh, and in all honesty, I think JP's work is *okay* at best, I am looking forward to seeing what he does for Tryxx.
tim_commerfordism
08-03-2006, 12:26 PM
Oh, and in all honesty, I think JP's work is *okay* at best, I am looking forward to seeing what he does for Tryxx.
123.
Hmmm. I never knew Tryxx is getting a bass from him. Has he paid already? You know when he is getting it, and what did he get?
BassVirtuoso
08-03-2006, 12:35 PM
I usually make fun of people who do this, but JP has actually helped me a lot when I was trying to build and buy a bass.
Jimbobntnr
08-03-2006, 12:36 PM
he should stay because he keeps me from holding the title of 'oldest bass forum poster'
bottlerocket
08-03-2006, 01:06 PM
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who says that? who bashes him? i've seen none of this.
The only person I've seen bash JP is Sade...
Honestly, though, JP, if you want to leave, I don't want you to but if you want to, hey, I'm not your father...
-Gav
AlmightyPancake
08-03-2006, 01:27 PM
Oh, and in all honesty, I think JP's work is *okay* at best, I am looking forward to seeing what he does for Tryxx.
RE: this.
No poster save myself and Joz have ever played the Scarab. I took some quality photos of it that showed off its real looks, and people loved it. Many people love the sound. People who see me/hear me use it live end up talking with me about it after gigs---I can't get away from the bastards.
Bottom line is, no one save myself, and soon, Tryxx, is capable of commenting on the work of JP Winters. I use the scarab for band work and receive nothing but compliments from fellow musicians and, more importantly, sound guys. Clips I record with it passive into a hundred dollar USB recording unit with a low-level program aren't accurate representations.
It's as bad as the bloody rondo fads. People scream they're great for months, then that they're lousy for months, then that they're alright for the price, and rinse and repeat. Doesn't matter that many people haven't played rondo basses. I have. Solid basses for the price. They'll last, but they're not quality. For a while, everyone wanted a Winters. Now, people criticize his work. He built a beautiful black Jazz, and people said it was rubbish because of a headstock inlay. Guess who's actually played JP's Wife, or the guitars he's built?
If anyone ever wants to try out the Scarab, and has the means to visit or meet me somewhere close-ish to me, I've already said I'm willing to do it. Until then, don't pass judgement on his work.
Love,
AlmightyPancake/Jason Durso
Proud Winters Custom Owner
bottlerocket
08-03-2006, 01:28 PM
I love you, Jason, you know that?
I was going to say, "...No one but AP [I forgot JoZ] has played a Winters...so...how would you guys know?" but I figured I'd wait a bit longer.
-Gav
trumpeter
08-03-2006, 01:32 PM
RE: this.
No poster save myself and Joz have ever played the Scarab. I took some quality photos of it that showed off its real looks, and people loved it. Many people love the sound. People who see me/hear me use it live end up talking with me about it after gigs---I can't get away from the bastards.
Bottom line is, no one save myself, and soon, Tryxx, is capable of commenting on the work of JP Winters. I use the scarab for band work and receive nothing but compliments from fellow musicians and, more importantly, sound guys. Clips I record with it passive into a hundred dollar USB recording unit with a low-level program aren't accurate representations.
It's as bad as the bloody rondo fads. People scream they're great for months, then that they're lousy for months, then that they're alright for the price, and rinse and repeat. Doesn't matter that many people haven't played rondo basses. I have. Solid basses for the price. They'll last, but they're not quality. For a while, everyone wanted a Winters. Now, people criticize his work. He built a beautiful black Jazz, and people said it was rubbish because of a headstock inlay. Guess who's actually played JP's Wife, or the guitars he's built?
If anyone ever wants to try out the Scarab, and has the means to visit or meet me somewhere close-ish to me, I've already said I'm willing to do it. Until then, don't pass judgement on his work.
Love,
AlmightyPancake/Jason Durso
Proud Winters Custom Owner
Thats why I said "think"
I don't find his work to be the most attractive thing, but yes, I will concede that the scarab is on of the best sounding basses I've heard. This is another reason I want to see Tryxx's bass, I want, whole-heartedly, for JP to have success, and I have considered having him do work for me. JP also has had great ideas as far as his EQ goes, I think it sounds wonderful.
I think the most important thing about the entire *bashing* thing is the quality of photographs. As I've said time and time again, visuals are the first thing that will sell something, be it an instrument, food, or a car. That is my opinion.
trumpeter
08-03-2006, 01:35 PM
I love you, Jason, you know that?
I was going to say, "...No one but AP [I forgot JoZ] has played a Winters...so...how would you guys know?" but I figured I'd wait a bit longer.
-Gav
Just to play the other side, yes, they are the only people to have played a Winters, thus they are the only two people who can comment either way. So we should both be skeptical and open minded at the same time?
AlmightyPancake
08-03-2006, 01:39 PM
Just to play the other side, yes, they are the only people to have played a Winters, thus they are the only two people who can comment either way. So we should both be skeptical and open minded at the same time?
Yes, but judgemental and skeptical are rather different things.
bottlerocket
08-03-2006, 02:19 PM
^ Boom! Headshot!
-Gav
trumpeter
08-03-2006, 02:20 PM
ITT: AP pwns critics.
Left Shoe
08-03-2006, 02:36 PM
this is the internet, if he wants to leave let him. dont make it dramatic.
watch soap operas
faelun
08-03-2006, 03:40 PM
nooooooooooooooo jp don't go :(
Tryxx
08-03-2006, 03:46 PM
JP can't go. I'm going to whore out pictures like no tomorrow, and he'll HAVE to comment.
Misanthropic
08-03-2006, 03:49 PM
Tryxx: sorry for not having followed what's happened, but what bass is he buiding you?
As for JP, I think it would be quite a loss if he left, because, as opposed to TB, he's one of the few members on here that actually has the experience and knows what he's talking about. Long sentence.
dont make it dramatic.
How many months have you had "Elitist Lesson Mod" in your user title, by the way?
Just wondering.
Tryxx
08-03-2006, 03:56 PM
Tryxx: sorry for not having followed what's happened, but what bass is he buiding you?
As for JP, I think it would be quite a loss if he left, because, as opposed to TB, he's one of the few members on here that actually has the experience and knows what he's talking about. Long sentence.
Pretty basic P/Tele bass.
It's just going to be pretty awesome looking, and I plan on it having a huge sound. You'll get progress pics soon enough. :p
AlmightyPancake
08-03-2006, 04:02 PM
Pretty basic P/Tele bass.
It's just going to be pretty awesome looking, and I plan on it having a huge sound. You'll get progress pics soon enough. :p
Arrgh. When?!?! When?!
Tryxx
08-03-2006, 04:08 PM
Arrgh. When?!?! When?!
Whenever I get them. You bug him for me! :D
The only person I've seen bash JP is Sade...
yeah, i remember that, (a bit), and it was within good reason. regardless, it's nothing more then what other people take from time to time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ4XwjvS-CI
Naveed Afzal
08-03-2006, 05:06 PM
id love to try his work, ive been trying get him to answer my questions and he hasnt.
Its no biggie he lost buisness.
but i wouldnt talk **** on his basses or him, they look good the only thing i didnt like was the White Pup Cover on the Wife... which he changed anyway..., i cant say they sound good ive never EQ'd them the way i would want.
But hey this Forum is full of CHILDREN, little kids, alot of which dont work... and really dont think for themselves, which is why you have the Fads.
JP if you let these kids get to you, thats a shame seriously... you are a grown man, and you should have learned as i have. That alot of times they post to get a rise out of someone. Let it go.
Naveed Afzal
08-03-2006, 05:11 PM
and id like to add, its not a thing of "he lost his confidence" or whatever, no1 likes for people to talk **** on them. Period doesnt matter where it was. it Angers.
But hey this Forum is full of CHILDREN, little kids, alot of which dont work... and really dont think for themselves, which is why you have the Fads.
and that's exactly why there's no real point to promoting business here, (that's not a shot at JP, that's just truth). the majority of people who are gonna inquire about his basses are 15 year old morons who basically hold this mentality:
"HEY I'VE GOT 20 BUCKS FROM MOWING A GUY'S LAWN AND MY BIRTHDAY'S COMING UP AND MAYBE I CAN GET MY CHRISTMAS PRESENT EARLY SO YEAH I MIGHT HAVE 2 GRAND BY THE END OF THE MONTH."
yeah, real reliable. there's only one person here who could afford to have a custom-made bass.
and that's Tryxx's mom.
Jimbobntnr
08-03-2006, 05:22 PM
yeah, i remember that, (a bit), and it was within good reason. regardless, it's nothing more then what other people take from time to time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ4XwjvS-CI
lol, this post didn't even rate the actual video.
Naveed Afzal
08-03-2006, 05:23 PM
and that's exactly why there's no real point to promoting business here, (that's not a shot at JP, that's just truth). the majority of people who are gonna inquire about his basses are 15 year old morons who basically hold this mentality:
"HEY I'VE GOT 20 BUCKS FROM MOWING A GUY'S LAWN AND MY BIRTHDAY'S COMING UP AND MAYBE I CAN GET MY CHRISTMAS PRESENT EARLY SO YEAH I MIGHT HAVE 2 GRAND BY THE END OF THE MONTH."
yeah, real reliable. there's only one person here who could afford to have a custom-made bass.
and that's Tryxx's mom.
No i believe theres More.. Edge, Myself, JP and others could afford one. Which is why i was so upset jP ignored me, im one of the few that was serious and can actually afford it.
but you are right as far as advertising...
Talkbass seems to be a little more stuck up, which prob why JP is over here.
Thats why i post here more... i look at Talk Bass Threads... i dont post. well rarely.
AlmightyPancake
08-03-2006, 05:23 PM
and that's exactly why there's no real point to promoting business here, (that's not a shot at JP, that's just truth). the majority of people who are gonna inquire about his basses are 15 year old morons who basically hold this mentality:
"HEY I'VE GOT 20 BUCKS FROM MOWING A GUY'S LAWN AND MY BIRTHDAY'S COMING UP AND MAYBE I CAN GET MY CHRISTMAS PRESENT EARLY SO YEAH I MIGHT HAVE 2 GRAND BY THE END OF THE MONTH."
yeah, real reliable. there's only one person here who could afford to have a custom-made bass.
and that's Tryxx's mom.
Please. The amount I pay you for sex?! You could buy billions.
It's not so much that JP's feelings are hurt by kids, it's just that there's no point in him hanging around a forum if it's not much fun. This is a fun internet place thing where people go, and when it turns into kids bickering over silly things, then not much point in staying. I've had times where I've gone a few months without MX simply because it wasn't that much fun.
Please. The amount I pay you for sex?! You could buy billions.
two words:
faberge eggs.
oh and heroin.
Naveed Afzal
08-03-2006, 05:29 PM
Cant wait for my Ken Smith To Get ehre!
Jimbobntnr
08-03-2006, 05:30 PM
No i believe theres More.. Edge, Myself, JP and others could afford one. Which is why i was so upset jP ignored me, im one of the few that was serious and can actually afford it.
but you are right as far as advertising...
Talkbass seems to be a little more stuck up, which prob why JP is over here.
Thats why i post here more... i look at Talk Bass Threads... i dont post. well rarely. are we comparing W-2s? I think you're right in that this shouldn't be Winter's sole online presence. There are a million places to advertise a product. There has been a fair return on JPs time spent here, though.
When I was selling a product, the most I ever sold on a single forum was three.
Naveed Afzal
08-03-2006, 05:32 PM
MX... er sputnik is great place to sell weed.
Jimbobntnr
08-03-2006, 05:35 PM
MX... er sputnik is great place to sell weed.
not like it used to be though, remember how nice everyone was about it? Now it just seems like everyone is here to make a buck. The market is flooded and I miss the 'old mx'
Naveed Afzal
08-03-2006, 05:41 PM
Yeah man... weeds turned into a FAD!
Son of Magni
08-03-2006, 06:36 PM
...But hey this Forum is full of CHILDREN, little kids, alot of which dont work... and really dont think for themselves...
Man, did I get flamed when I said something along those lines :) Anyone remember the thread that brought me to this site (due to a blip in my hit log)?
You're right though, there's no point in getting upset about things people post on a public forum. I'm not saying there isn't a lot of good stuff on forums, including this one, but when people say ignorant sh1t, you just have to let it go.
NavyBass
08-03-2006, 06:38 PM
Naveed Afzal, I'm so sorry for not getting back to you about the quote. Things got hectic around here about that time, plus, my workshop computer went down, which is where I had the request and all the links to the wood distributors and such. I still have the request and can provide you with a quote if you'd like. I know that you just got another bass. Anyway, I apologize.
The JoZ
08-03-2006, 06:52 PM
Spend $40 and put a Classified on Fark.com.
You should get tons of hits from the posting alone.
If it tanks, you're only out $40.
And it'd be much better than alot of the BS ads they have running nowadays.
Naveed Afzal
08-03-2006, 07:17 PM
Naveed Afzal, I'm so sorry for not getting back to you about the quote. Things got hectic around here about that time, plus, my workshop computer went down, which is where I had the request and all the links to the wood distributors and such. I still have the request and can provide you with a quote if you'd like. I know that you just got another bass. Anyway, I apologize.
actually that'd be great.
i figured there had to be a reason, but i wasnt sure.
Left Shoe
08-04-2006, 12:14 AM
How many months have you had "Elitist Lesson Mod" in your user title, by the way?
Just wondering.
until you said that i coudlnt remember who said that. which obviously means im holding a grudge, right? ill go change it for you right now though :thumb:
bottlerocket
08-04-2006, 12:25 AM
this is the internet, if he wants to leave let him. dont make it dramatic.
watch soap operas
Honestly, though, JP, if you want to leave, I don't want you to but if you want to, hey, I'm not your father...
-Gav
Hrm...
-Gav
until you said that i coudlnt remember who said that. which obviously means im holding a grudge, right? ill go change it for you right now though :thumb:
Can we have make-up sex? :naughty:
doodooking
08-04-2006, 06:47 PM
No i believe theres More.. Edge, Myself, JP and others could afford one. Which is why i was so upset jP ignored me, im one of the few that was serious and can actually afford it.
but you are right as far as advertising...
Talkbass seems to be a little more stuck up, which prob why JP is over here.
Thats why i post here more... i look at Talk Bass Threads... i dont post. well rarely.
I could afford one =/
Anyway, if JP wants to leave, let him, it's his choice, let him do what he wants. I wouldn't want him to leave since he does have more knowledge of things, but then why should he stay if he doesn't want to.
As for buying one of his basses, I would assume that more people don't show interest in them because there aren't many pictures of real basses. If you just so happen to surf the web and stumble across JP's page and you didn't know him, would you buy a bass from a guy that didn't even have pictures of actual basses? I wouldn't, but thats my opinion.
I also don't really like the cosmetics of his basses, again, just my opinion.
I really wouldn't want JP to leave, but if I were him, I probably would have left a long time ago. But then again, if I wanted to leave, I would have just left and not made a big deal about it. It seems like this is all just to get attention since if someone really just wanted to leave, they would.
NavyBass
08-04-2006, 07:31 PM
Supernaut, how was Sade's bashing of me justified?
On to the thread's main topic. When I said that I'd leave in the Fad's thread, it was meant more as a joke.
Don't worry all, I'm not going to try and sell any more of my customs here. I may just post pics of the ones in progress just to show them, but I won't try to sell them here.
The only reason I put the Jazz up for sale was to try to get something out there. I also put it up at a greatly reduced price, just to get it out there. Don't let the price dictate the quality. Some of you did that in other threads. Some called it a $450 bass because that's what I priced it at. Truth is, that was what it cost me just for materials to make that bass. I didn't add in labor costs.
I actually did sell that bass for $1050.00 and he's in the process of writing me a review of the bass. I'm getting pics of him with the bass, and will post them here if you like.:)
But, I digress, I'm writing this to say that I wouldn't leave. I wasn't expecting this type of reaction from my original comment. Thank you all though.:thumb:
Akira
08-04-2006, 07:48 PM
Definately keep showing us your basses. I think a lot of us are interested in them.
The JoZ
08-04-2006, 07:54 PM
Supernaut, how was Sade's bashing of me justified?
Nothing Sade said was ever justified. Don't worry about him, he's full of it, and himself.
That being said, when it comes to advertising, I don't know if you caught my post...but...
Spend $40 for a Classified ad on Fark.com. You should get a ton of hits from it's placement alone, and if it tanks, you're only out $40
Just a thought.
NavyBass
08-04-2006, 08:24 PM
I'll have to look into that Fark thing.:thumb:
Son of Magni
08-04-2006, 08:53 PM
Supernaut, how was Sade's bashing of me justified?...
Sade's bashing was never justified, and Supernaut's opinion was never worth anything...
Jimbobntnr
08-04-2006, 09:00 PM
Sade's bashing was never justified, and Supernaut's opinion was never worth anything...
So... does this constitute justification for super's bashing?
I've been bashed here. I have bashed here. It's the internet, not a family reunion.
Until there is more bashing than talent it's all worth it
Son of Magni
08-04-2006, 09:07 PM
So... does this constitute justification for super's bashing?
I've been bashed here. I have bashed here. It's the internet, not a family reunion.
Until there is more bashing than talent it's all worth it
Heh, probably there's more bashing at a family reunion, sometimes. But point taken, just in a bad mood i guess.
I take it back, super I will never put you on ignore :)
AlmightyPancake
08-05-2006, 01:20 AM
Supernaut, how was Sade's bashing of me justified?
On to the thread's main topic. When I said that I'd leave in the Fad's thread, it was meant more as a joke.
Don't worry all, I'm not going to try and sell any more of my customs here. I may just post pics of the ones in progress just to show them, but I won't try to sell them here.
The only reason I put the Jazz up for sale was to try to get something out there. I also put it up at a greatly reduced price, just to get it out there. Don't let the price dictate the quality. Some of you did that in other threads. Some called it a $450 bass because that's what I priced it at. Truth is, that was what it cost me just for materials to make that bass. I didn't add in labor costs.
I actually did sell that bass for $1050.00 and he's in the process of writing me a review of the bass. I'm getting pics of him with the bass, and will post them here if you like.:)
But, I digress, I'm writing this to say that I wouldn't leave. I wasn't expecting this type of reaction from my original comment. Thank you all though.:thumb:
I wanna see pics+review.
:D
Naveed Afzal
08-05-2006, 01:28 AM
Just goes to show you... how slow people here are.
450 for a custom bass... pretty much a 1 off... that could very well one day be worth something.
Spec wise it looks better thena Fender... and is LESS then An American Made Fender USED...
Seriously if i didnt hate 4 strings id have been all over it. If i could be postive i could buy it for 450 and sell it for that price or more id have bought it to test it out and then resold it.
jollygiantchris
08-05-2006, 01:57 AM
Just goes to show you... how slow people here are.
450 for a custom bass... pretty much a 1 off... that could very well one day be worth something.
worth something eh? for only 450 its worth keeping and playing :D unfortunately for me jp's ad for only $450 occurred when i had meningitus and was unable to sit or stand up for 2 weeks and missed it :(
oh and whoever said that people on this forum don't have money to purchase custom basses thats generally true of the internet period not just these forums
that and although i dont post much i read a lot on this forum and jp seems to be one of the nicest (and most knowledgable) people on here and having him leave would be a loss
Mr. Pickle
08-05-2006, 01:59 AM
oh and whoever said that people on this forum don't have money to purchase custom basses thats generally true of the internet period not just these forums
what about talkbass?
Naveed Afzal
08-05-2006, 02:06 AM
worth something eh? for only 450 its worth keeping and playing :D unfortunately for me jp's ad for only $450 occurred when i had meningitus and was unable to sit or stand up for 2 weeks and missed it :(
oh and whoever said that people on this forum don't have money to purchase custom basses thats generally true of the internet period not just these forums
that and although i dont post much i read a lot on this forum and jp seems to be one of the nicest (and most knowledgable) people on here and having him leave would be a loss
i dont play 4 strings, I must have a High C on all off my basses... i dont play strings because i need my E... i play 5 strings because i need the C :)
faelun
08-05-2006, 02:19 AM
Don't worry all, I'm not going to try and sell any more of my customs here. I may just post pics of the ones in progress just to show them, but I won't try to sell them here.
I actually did sell that bass for $1050.00
heh ye know dude, every time i see a gear whore type topic the pictures i enjoy seeing most are ALWAYS hands down yours. I always think to my self as it's loading has JP posted here yet? i wana see what crazy new bass he's got today :) i'm glad you're staying and gratz on the sale of your bass. If i had money (i'm in the process of appplying for a job) i'd SERIOUSLY consider buying one of ur bass' and hopefully when i accumulate some cash i may be able to do so.
here's to JP :chug:
-faelun
Mr. Pickle
08-05-2006, 02:21 AM
JP, would you be able to make a neck for me or don't you do that stuff seperately?
But, I digress, I'm writing this to say that I wouldn't leave. I wasn't expecting this type of reaction from my original comment. Thank you all though.:thumb:
You'd better not.
jollygiantchris
08-05-2006, 03:14 AM
what about talkbass?
talkbass does but the conversations are boring and the layout is irritating!
talkbass does but the conversations are boring and the layout is irritating!
And a lot of the members are assholes.
Jazz Pirate
08-05-2006, 10:06 AM
JP is a vital part of this forum.
Mr. Pickle
08-05-2006, 05:17 PM
talkbass does but the conversations are boring and the layout is irritating!
considering we were talking about financial stuff, i don't know what this has to do with anything.
Supernaut, how was Sade's bashing of me justified?
how was it not? "bashing" can be boiled down to the simple act of stating one's opinion in reference to a person or thing in an abrasive, aggressive manner. regardless, there is no "justification" required to do that.
DaveSavesTheDay
08-05-2006, 05:33 PM
how was it not? "bashing" can be boiled down to the simple act of stating one's opinion in reference to a person or thing in an abrasive, aggressive manner. regardless, there is no "justification" required to do that.
As much of an *** that Sade was at times, he did have good input on certain issues.
Without sounding like a fan boy, Dylan is right. Sade's "bashing" was just him disagreeing with alot of what JP said. It all depends whos point of view you look at, but for the most part, Sade was right.
Just my opinon, though.
Akira
08-05-2006, 05:44 PM
As much of an *** that Sade was at times, he did have good input on certain issues.
Without sounding like a fan boy, Dylan is right. Sade's "bashing" was just him disagreeing with alot of what JP said. It all depends whos point of view you look at, but for the most part, Sade was right.
Just my opinon, though.
I disagree. Not liking JP's work is fine, but JP has never done anything on here to warrant anyone being unneccesarily rude.
As much of an *** that Sade was at times, he did have good input on certain issues.
Without sounding like a fan boy, Dylan is right. Sade's "bashing" was just him disagreeing with alot of what JP said. It all depends whos point of view you look at, but for the most part, Sade was right.
Just my opinon, though.
exactly.
I disagree. Not liking JP's work is fine, but JP has never done anything on here to warrant anyone being unneccesarily rude.
:lol: that makes no difference.
DaveSavesTheDay
08-05-2006, 05:49 PM
I disagree. Not liking JP's work is fine, but JP has never done anything on here to warrant anyone being unneccesarily rude.
That was just Sade's attitude. He didn't act that way soley towards JP. If he dissagreed with you, he would let you know.
Son of Magni
08-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Ok, complete re-write...
So this kind of leads back to why this thread is here in the first place. JP made a sarcastic comment about not liking be dissed for no reason, and some people jumped in to support him.
So I'll just lay it out, and super and the other haters can listen or not, I can't control that.
I think the best way we can deal with other people is to try to help, encourage, use positive feedback, etc. That way everyone learns, grows, and finds their way in life.
Nothing is gained by doing the opposite except bad feelings, bad carma, negative thoughts, disease, and death.
That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it...
Akira
08-05-2006, 06:00 PM
That was just Sade's attitude. He didn't act that way soley towards JP. If he dissagreed with you, he would let you know.
I know that. Honestly, I didn't have that big of a problem with Sade most of the time. Sometimes he was out of line, but usually he was just himself. Users tended to take everything he said way too seriously, and they would then just fight back, giving him more ammo. If you didn't piss him off, he was one of the most interesting, intelligent users on here.
NavyBass
08-05-2006, 06:23 PM
Constructive critisizm is fine.
Quite frequently, people will just say "It Sucks" or other one liners, without giving reasons. That's not being constructive.
Some of you may say that I got Sade banned and be mad at me for that. The actual truth of the matter is that he got himself banned. I had nothing to do with that.
The one thing I did learn from him is that if you want to be popular, just be a super a$$hole.
There are ways to make points, and he went about it the wrong way.
This forum is supposed to be about helping other people. Sharing knowledge and learning new things. It's not supposed to be about someone showing how much of a jerk they can be.
So I'll just lay it out, and super and the other haters can listen or not, I can't control that.
i'm a "hater?" how did you draw this conclusion?
Worrpigs
08-05-2006, 09:46 PM
I know that. Honestly, I didn't have that big of a problem with Sade most of the time. Sometimes he was out of line, but usually he was just himself. Users tended to take everything he said way too seriously, and they would then just fight back, giving him more ammo. If you didn't piss him off, he was one of the most interesting, intelligent users on here.
thats the kind of mentality that caused the sade fanboy club.
Personally, i think JP's work is brilliant, i love seeing new twists on a jazz bass, and i love seeing what a small lutheir has in store for his small group of followers. that being said, this is just an internet forum, its not like JP is going to kill himself, if he wants to leave, best of luck to you JP, and if he wants to stay, then awesome, thats great. but let him make his own desicion.
good rats
08-05-2006, 10:48 PM
Why is this thread 5 pages long?
Come on guys...it's just the internet. Who cares if someone decided to leave a forum.
irishslappop
08-05-2006, 11:19 PM
how often do you talk to your grand mother? how often do you talk to people on the internet?
seven thousand posts is sorta telling me you talk to internet people more. just trying to point out that even though its "just the internet" that doesn;t mean you wont miss someone or miss their advice.
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