bad religion

[Aeaon]

Another great band.



I mean, sure their later albums are awful, but their earlier material (1980-85 era) is very enjoyable to listen to. The lyrics on the other hand are amazing. Even while punk bands such as dead kennedys have always proved themselves as atheist, it seems like the guys from bad religion really know how to prove their point of view on religion, especially since their are in fact a punk band.

[Permanent Solution]

The Empire Strikes First is one of their best albums ever.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

Suffer and How Could Hell Be Any Worse? are amazing albums. I was listening to the Suffer not too long ago and realized how much the lyrics sounded like they were written in current day. They are a timeless band...

[(r)evolution]

how could hell be any worse is an amazing album. im gonna see them in september with the dropkick murphys.

[Sleeper]

I really like this band, I was dissapointed with there album The Process of Belief.

[i_am_zombie_jesus]

Love BR, theyre doing a Canadian tour with Comeback Kid, Clit 45 and DKM, hopefully i'll go but only for DKM Clit and BR. Kinda weird combination though dont ya think?

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

DKM has had some kinda weird guests on tour. Last one I saw was DKM, Big D and the Kids Table, Rightgeous Jams and Far From Finished. They're all from Boston tho...

[IgniteYourAvail]

*Insert Greg Graffin joke*

I love Bad Religion though. Suffer and No Control are ace albums.

[Ghostfire3]

Meh, not a big fan of BR. I really can't listen to them for a very long time. I get bored.

[TakeWarning]

Good band, Suffer and No Control are both awesome.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I do like Bad Religion but sometimes i can find them a little boring. Against The Grain is brilliant aswel as most of their other albums. I really like their newer albums too.

[(r)evolution]

Love BR, theyre doing a Canadian tour with Comeback Kid, Clit 45 and DKM, hopefully i'll go but only for DKM Clit and BR. Kinda weird combination though dont ya think?

i plan on heckling clit 45, they really really blow

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

Good band, I really like HCHBAW, Suffer, and ESF

[Prolapsed]

bad religion are a great band. they have some of the greatest musicians in punk rock right now, i think. Greg Graffin is lyrically gifted and quite thoughtful. Gurrowitz is quite a lyricist himself, but a really good guitarist.

All Ages is a pretty good compilation album. its one of the only albums i own from them. 80-85 too. thats a great one. im trying to learn the song "Latch Key Kids" on guitar, so far its going good. yeah, that is a classic chord progression.

[DillingerEscp]

I love them, very catchy... lyrics are dumb though, I could own that man in a debate any day of the week.

[Liebensaft]

I know I'm not the only one that doesn't like them. Their songs sound the same.

[Henrik]

Actually a lot of them do... BUT If you make sure not to listen to them too much at the time, they are amazing..
And The lyrics is half of the pleasure listening to Bad Religion, which is why it pisses me of that the booklet inside Suffer is hand written.

[sketchyjoe]

Good band, Suffer and No Control are both awesome.
Word.

[Lazybassplr56]

i plan on heckling clit 45, they really really blow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMpWPnCd0ro

[SantaDuJuan]

Hell is an awesome album, BR are a legendary band.

[Lazybassplr56]

I really enjoyed The Empire Strikes First.

[MAthiAS]

One of my favorite punk bands for sure. Suffer is probably my favorite of theirs, but I like just about every era.

[<---NoFX--->]

I like Bald Religion, I think I have all of their albums. Suffer is probably best though

[ibanezman575]

suffer and no control are their two best albums
i also enjoyed the empire strikes first (no wai)

[holy_roller99]

i have No Control and The Empire Strikes First. both are good albums but No Control is better imo.

[Brain Toad]

One of my favorite bands. I downloaded all their albums, but haven't listened to every single one yet. Their songs do get kind of repeatative if you listen to them too much though.

And the forbidden Into the Unknown album isn't that bad.

[mtbaird5687]

you know anywhere i can listen to "Into the Unknown" ???

[Ghostfire3]

Uh, buy it. Or download it off soulseek.

[mullets suk]

you know anywhere i can listen to "Into the Unknown" ???
http://www.strangereaction.com is kinda spread around all over the place on that site, just look around

that link doesn't work and i cant get it to. but the entire cds there.

[fatwreckpunk]

ive said it before and will say it again. Suffer is the best album by this amazing band

[AIRIC]

Okay. Kind of boring.

[i_am_zombie_jesus]

Anyone hear about Greg Graffin's solo album? Apparently its supposed to be all country blue grass stuff, kinda interesting.

[Brain Toad]

Anyone hear about Greg Graffin's solo album? Apparently its supposed to be all country blue grass stuff, kinda interesting.

Not really. Ir's just acoustic, somewhat folky.

[Henrik]

Is it good?

[RetiredAt21]

I never really got that into this band. They're alright.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Yeah Greg Gaffins solo stuff is pretty good imo.

[mullets suk]

if you like punk his solo stuff you wont like his solo stuff. i think its ok, but nothing i would ever buy.

[_RK_]

There new DVD is kickass, anyone who hasn't seen it should buy it.

They're touring with DKM? **** you Canada!

[mullets suk]

There new DVD is kickass, anyone who hasn't seen it should buy it.

i saw it, and it didnt really impress me. i really liked the along the dvd. really cool. it dosnt get that boring cause they change venues between 5+ places.

also Greg Graffin moves around alot more, he still does so stupid hand movements, but that keeps things good to watch.

the crod is alot better in that vid to cause they can get on stage and stuff.

[Ender_]

Bad Religion is what jump started me into punk, and they're the only band I listen to in constant rotation. They're last few albums were great, if you don't try to compare them to the rawness of the earlier works. The later ones are more polished. :/

[randomtyping]

i would have to say that suffer is one of the greatest punk albums ever.

[scarlet]

Process of belief = best album

[rancid22]

I really like this band, I was dissapointed with there album The Process of Belief.

i like process of belief.....i love ur avatar btw.....kick *** movie

[ibanezman575]

Process of belief = best album
no.

[Tyr]

Against the Grain is their best, if you ask me.

[holy_roller99]

i like suffer and No Control. but if i had to pick my favourite i would say, No Control.

ha ha, i am going to see Bad Religion on the 27th. i REALLY cant wait

[mental1]

They are gods, all the albums with Mr. Brett are amazing. I cant wait for the new album. DOUBLE ALBUM!!!

[DBoons Ghost]

Against the Grain is their best, if you ask me.

I agree with this. Against the Grain is not only one of BR's best albums, but it's probably one of the best punk albums ever. It would have to be on any top 10 or something.. At least for US punk.

Suffer and No Control are amazing too, but 35 minutes of music at the cost of a full album is not cool. No Control sounds all the same more or less, with slight changes here and there.

Of their later albums, Stranger then Fiction is the last album through and through that was amazing. The only one I didn't like was No Substance, and probably The New America, which was just bad. Too much filler and the songs were truly geared to youth with that inspirational crap.

[Tyr]

I agree with this. Against the Grain is not only one of BR's best albums, but it's probably one of the best punk albums ever. It would have to be on any top 10 or something.. At least for US punk.

Suffer and No Control are amazing too, but 35 minutes of music at the cost of a full album is not cool. No Control sounds all the same more or less, with slight changes here and there.

Of their later albums, Stranger then Fiction is the last album through and through that was amazing. The only one I didn't like was No Substance, and probably The New America, which was just bad. Too much filler and the songs were truly geared to youth with that inspirational crap.

I prefer Suffer over No Control, although both are good. But, as you said, they are too short.

I kind of like No Substance, but New America is just plain boring. It has one good song, I think.

[DBoons Ghost]

I prefer Suffer over No Control, although both are good. But, as you said, they are too short.

I kind of like No Substance, but New America is just plain boring. It has one good song, I think.

Yeah maybe I'll give No Substance another listen.. New America isn't bad musically, it's just like you said. Kinda boring. I really like the song Streetkid Named Desire, and the best song on the album (in my humble opinion) is Believe It, and oddly enough it's the one Mr Brett wrote.

When I first heard Suffer it had just come out, and to say I was blown away is an understatement. When No Control came out, it was jaw dropping amazing, bit lyrically and musically, it was just too short. To me, Against the Grain is a very profound definitive album in that era of their playstyle. Nothing compared to it at the time. Nothing was as tight, aggresive or as well written and put together. Every song had a moment of :eek: .

Yeah I am a slight BR fanboi. What can I say. They were among the first west coast punk bands that east coast punks accepted.

[Octatron3030]

*Insert Greg Graffin joke*

I love Bad Religion though. Suffer and No Control are ace albums.

Greg Graffin joke about him having cyber sex with little girls? does anybody know what was up with that rumor?

[IgniteYourAvail]

That was, like, so long ago man.

[Octatron3030]

That was, like, so long ago man.

I know but I didn't really hear a lot about it.

[Flagjacket]

my favorite Bad Religon album is A New America.

[DanielSchnarr]

I have all their released albums... great band, listened to them years straight. GREAT BAND.

[Fred kennedy]

I got into Stranger than Fiction a lot when I was about 14/15, I used to listen to it all the time. I liked a couple of the other early 90's BR albums, but I don't think I agree with the original thread poster on the matter of the earlier releases. They just sound like generic hardcore punk to me, but they were just starting as a band so I guess that's understandable.

[Rise Me Up]

The Bad Religion DVD is great.

[Tyr]

The Bad Religion DVD is great.

It sure is. Great interviews and good quality on the recordings.

[groomits]

The new album who will be out on the 10th of July is called New Maps Of Hell.

Here is the tracklist :

New Dark Ages
Dearly Beloved
Grains of Wrath
Heroes & Martyrs
Lost Pilgrim
Submission Complete
New Chapter
Before You Die
Germs of Perfection
Prodigal Son
Fields of Mars
Honest Goodbye
Srutiny
Requiem
Grand Delusion
52 Sec
Murder

I don't know if its the exact order, but these are the 17 songs.

[Bukowski]

I hope they tour. I missed them when they played in Scotland about 4 years ago because I was on holiday at the time - which sucked because back then they were my favourite band. I've heard mixed stories about their live show though.

[Times Ten]

Probably the first punk band I ever listened to. Also the first punk band that I saw live. One of my favorites.

[Tantrum]

BR is ****ing great. I grabbed their discography the other week and No Control is AMAZING. I have never before in my life cared about the lyrics, but BR has amazing ones and they are so powerful. They are so full of powerful statements and good metaphors and they just strike me as classy (IE not Anti-Flag literal lyrics) and so "perfect" as punk lyrics.

Whether I agree with what he has to say all the time is another story, but thats a different thread :).

[AIRIC]

Overrated.

[PsychoTronn]

this band is amazing

[AIRIC]

My number two overrated band under the Clash.

[AIRIC]

Haha yeah this post inspired it.

[lynch_me]

Eric, you're being really pathetic.

[AIRIC]

What are you talking about?

[lynch_me]

Nevermind..

[IgniteYourAvail]

None, shut up.

[lynch_me]

Pffft, not even a big deal, and we already talked on soulseek.

[Neoteric]

I like Against The Grain, everything else is a bit mehh.

[Tyr]

That's their best, but I love almost everything, except New America of course.

[Flagjacket]

New America is actually their best everything else is only okay.

[Tyr]

New America has one song that I really like, Don't Sell Me Short. The rest are kind of meh.

[groomits]

here's the artwork for the next album ! :thumb:

http://www.epitaph.com/artists/album/516

[Flagjacket]

Wow, so now we have the artwork and track listing, it's like we actually know what the album sounds like.

[antihippy]

i never knew greg was a proffesor.

i want that album.

[Henrik]

Wow, so now we have the artwork and track listing, it's like we actually know what the album sounds like.
be nice.

[groomits]

you never knew bands can have fans? I'm happy to tell you that yes they can :thumb: and I'm one of those. I'm also very happy to see the new artwork for the next album because Bad Religion are, actually, my favorite band. So yeah, be nice or just shut up :wave:

[The Zimmerman Note]

I don't know if I am going to buy the new Bad Religion album. They are one of my favorite punk bands even cracking my top five but I haven't liked really liked more than only two or three songs off any of their albums since No Control. I think the problem is that most of the members arn't really punks anymore. Greg should focus more on his solo career. It seems to reflect who he is these days more than punk.

[groomits]

yeah they're getting older. It is not fast 1 min songs as no control times. But I think that Bad Religion bases are still the same in every album. Strong melodies and tempos and most of all, great lyrics. Their music is more developped album after album and this is where it's getting interesting.

Though, the lastest epitaph newsletter said ''"Don't be surprised if they hit us with some fast, straight to the point punk rock songs that are remnant of How Could Hell Be Any Worse?"

so, I'm really looking for this album :smash:

[The Zimmerman Note]

That claim about it being comparable to How Could Hell Be Any Worse is nice but I don't see it happening. To put out an album like that you need to still have that youthful punk mentality. Some of the members may still have that but Brett is more of a businessman with Epitaph and Gaffin is more of a family man professer. Yes it's interesting to hear the band's sound evolve but when the new sound is not nearly on par with the old I tend to lose intrest. It's nothing against the band they just grew old. The members still have the ability and talent to write good music I just think new Bad Religion is flogging a dead horse.

[Sum41isGod]

i love this band


what i would give for a signed guitar by them

[CommieCanada]

band rules

[mullets suk]

the only real problem with them is that the subject seems to stay the same. also that used a whole bunch of song/cd titles in "LA is burning". for soem reason that annoyed me.

also for people who say there sound isnt on par i think is way off. if they stayed the same they would of died off years ago, or worse be around with the same song. then most people would complain that they havent changed.

[groomits]

Most of their songs talk about religion, right. That's also why they're called Bad Religion... But I think their subjects are really variated (politics, human relations, overpopulation, technologies, drugs,biology, evolution, medias, and yeah, love), and they never talk about the same subject the same way twice. Each song can mean a lot of things and can be interpretated a lot of different ways, and for a band who's been out for a long time I think its pretty nice.

I also think that as long as a problem persist in the world, its always good to talk about it.

[Buzzbomb]

I think the problem is that most of the members arn't really punks anymore. Greg should focus more on his solo career. It seems to reflect who he is these days more than punk.


Well, that was ****en stupid.

[AIRIC]

also for people who say there sound isnt on par i think is way off. if they stayed the same they would of died off years ago, or worse be around with the same song. then most people would complain that they havent changed.

Every album they've ever released sounds exactly the same....

[Henrik]

That's why you just need to get Suffer and No Control.

[groomits]

Every album they've ever released sounds exactly the same....

that the dumbest thing you could have said, congratulations at beeing so stupid:smash:

[Ghostfire3]

that the dumbest thing you could have said, congratulations at beeing so stupid:smash:

Um, actually it's pretty much true. I could never listen to consecutive Bad Religion albums because it would just sound like I'm listening to the same **** over and over. I even find it difficult to listen to consecutive Bad Religion songs.

[Flagjacket]

groomits has said more incorrect statements than anyone else in this thread.

[groomits]

Um, actually it's pretty much true. I could never listen to consecutive Bad Religion albums because it would just sound like I'm listening to the same **** over and over. I even find it difficult to listen to consecutive Bad Religion songs.

actually, you could say that about a lot of bands and music that you don't know very well. I find metal music is all the same too, that rap songs sounds all the same. but I know it's not true and its just stupid to say such a thing.

groomits has said more incorrect statements than anyone else in this thread.

what incorrect statements did I said? go on

[Flagjacket]

Well for one thing, Bad Religion's name and logo come from when the band was formed. They were like, 16 or something so they just tried to pick whatever would be most "rebellious" thing they could think of.

[groomits]

Well for one thing, Bad Religion's name and logo come from when the band was formed. They were like, 16 or something so they just tried to pick whatever would be most "rebellious" thing they could think of.

so what? Today the crossbuster doesnt mean the same thing as when they were 16, but it acts more as a metaphor for any kind of religious beliefs or practices prescribe by an individual or a group. (from Graffin words). Hetson also said that its against any established set of rules.

Did you ever heard any recent interviews in wich Greg or Brett are talking about the logo and the name? Apparently no. So go get informed and then I will argue with you if necessary.

[Flagjacket]

Yeah, I read the thing I said in an interview with Greg Graffin. What kind of irresponsible **** would it be to make up something like that?

Back to how Bad Religion is really bad.

[Rise Me Up]

Did you ever heard any recent interviews in wich Greg or Brett are talking about the logo and the name? Apparently no. So go get informed and then I will argue with you if necessary.


Actually, they say basically what Kevin said in their "Live at the Palladium" dvd, and that came out in 2006. Pretty recent.

[groomits]

Actually, they say basically what Kevin said in their "Live at the Palladium" dvd, and that came out in 2006. Pretty recent.

yeah they create this logo to piss off people when they were 15. But now, the logo has changed of meaning for them. that's all. god it's not complicated... and I don't think my english is that bad.

edit :



Back to how Bad Religion is really bad.

well that's another debate. But I suggest you to say ''I find that bad religion is bad.''

[Flagjacket]

well that's another debate. But I suggest you to say ''I find that bad religion is bad.''

That's redundant, because if I say something there is a 100% chance that it is my opinion.

[groomits]

some little news.

Baker said :''The new stuff is more faster, brilliant and less depressive.''

that's a good thing I guess.

[GreyHam]

That's redundant, because if I say something there is a 100% chance that it is my opinion.

not really. if you say 'bad religion are bad' then your stating it as a fact, not an opinion

[Rise Me Up]

Dude, if someone says something like that, and you can't realize that they're stating they're opinion, you're an idiot.

[groomits]

But there's a good way to state your opinion. If you're not able to give your opinion correctly, you will surely look idiot, maybe not to you, but to a lot of people.

[yourstruly]

ooh, a battle of wits about such an important subject, ****ing punk rock as man..:rolleyes:

[calipunkerz]

They are a great band, was real cool they seemed to stand for something, liked em quite a bit when I was younger and still respect them

[SkaRobotArmy]

bad religion are a great band. they have some of the greatest musicians in punk rock right now, i think. Greg Graffin is lyrically gifted and quite thoughtful. Gurrowitz is quite a lyricist himself, but a really good guitarist.

All Ages is a pretty good compilation album. its one of the only albums i own from them. 80-85 too. thats a great one. im trying to learn the song "Latch Key Kids" on guitar, so far its going good. yeah, that is a classic chord progression.

nah, not if you go by the DVD 'live at the hollywood palladium'

baker does all the solos and riffs and sometimes hetson, gurewitz pretty much doesn't do any lead at all. cause if you think about, most of the songs with ripping solos were recorded after he left the band

also, thats one of the best band dvd's i've ever seen, totally worth buying.

[Masochist]

Bad Religion would be my favorite band ever. I'm very much looking forward to their new c.d.!

And I know this is old, but I'll address it anyways because I see it far too often: to say that all Bad Religion albums sound the same is to say that Suffer sounds like Recipe For Hate, which sounds like The New America which sounds like The Empire Strikes First, and none of those are true at all. It's impossible for a band to stay around for 1/4 of a century and put out the same album. I mean, even Against the Grain and Generator sound very different from each other, and they were put out only a year apart.

But none of that should matter, because any Bad Religion album is worth the pick-up.

[Elliptical Ion]

Suffer was good. The rest bores me.

[SkaRobotArmy]

Bad Religion would be my favorite band ever. I'm very much looking forward to their new c.d.!

And I know this is old, but I'll address it anyways because I see it far too often: to say that all Bad Religion albums sound the same is to say that Suffer sounds like Recipe For Hate, which sounds like The New America which sounds like The Empire Strikes First, and none of those are true at all. It's impossible for a band to stay around for 1/4 of a century and put out the same album. I mean, even Against the Grain and Generator sound very different from each other, and they were put out only a year apart.

But none of that should matter, because any Bad Religion album is worth the pick-up.

true story. i plan on owning them all eventually, but i refuse to pay more than $20 for them so whenever i see one for cheap i pick it up.
so far i'm at the gray race, recipe for hate, no substance, the empire strikes first, the new america, stranger than fiction.

[tom79]

Those are some of their weaker albums, minus RFH and ESF. No Control is essential Bad Religion.

[SkaRobotArmy]

yea i know, i just buy them when their cheap. i actually really like the gray race for some reason though. no substance has a couple good tunes but mostly isn't very good. new america and STF aren't actually even mine i borrowed them from a friend and then he left for university, i've had them so long they may as well be though.