Morbid Angel.... really so great?

[Luc214]

Okay now before I get flamed let me say I love death metal, Behemoth, Nile, Suffocation, Decapitated, benighted, Kataklysm, etc,

Now I dled Domination from morbid angel, and I really didn't like it except for the title track. I've heard lots of whoring of Blessed Are The Sick, is that better?

I've just heard so much and from what I've heard of them I think the hype is not deserved.

[Super Wotan]

Well, Altars of Madness = one of the best death metal albums ever.

[slaughteredfirst]

I find Morbid Angel to be painfully averge and I love the bands you stated you like.


Behemoth Nile and Decapitated all pwn. Kataklysm are pretty good too.

[IheartSP]

I have only heard one song it was on Beavis and Butthead. It didn't seem like most Death Metal, very slow and well, morbid, not fast and aggressive.

I didn't really like it.

[Shadows]

Get one of their first two albums. Just about any MA album past those really sucks.

[Luc214]

Which ones are there first two?

[Shadows]

Altars of Madness and Blessed are the Sick.

[Luc214]

Yeah I listened to some of Blessed Are The Sick and it was better.

[pate]

I have only heard one song it was on Beavis and Butthead. It didn't seem like most Death Metal, very slow and well, morbid, not fast and aggressive.

I didn't really like it.

So you've never heard any slow, pounding dm bands?

And yes, Altars is their best, and one of the best dm albums.

[Freezing Moon]

Morbid Angel is amazing, far from "average".

Get Altars of Madness and Blessed are the Sick.

[Super Wotan]

I believe you mean old* Morbid Angel :p

[Freezing Moon]

I believe you mean old* Morbid Angel :p
Well, that applies to most bands anyway. :p

I actually like Forumulas Fatal to the Flesh quite a bit too. Beyond those three I haven't paid much attention to them.

[Super Wotan]

Haha, yeah. I haven't really listened to the full new albums, but i've had like 2-3 songs from each and they were all terribly generic and boring.

[Nosferatu]

nothing beats Formulas..., sorry.

[Jude]

I love how R&Mers attempt to avoid anticipated flaming by name-dropping a bunch of tr00 death metal bands

[Super Wotan]

I love how R&Mers attempt to avoid anticipated flaming by name-dropping a bunch of tr00 death metal bands
Uh, what? Those bands are not really very undergound/"tr00" at all.

[CRONITOR]

they are okay

[i am the robots]

I love how R&Mers attempt to avoid anticipated flaming by name-dropping a bunch of tr00 death metal bands

Hush

[FatalEnergy]

Altars and Blessed are great. The rest sucks.

[pate]

Altars and Blessed are great. The rest sucks.

Covenant's decent, Domination's enjoyable, and Gateway to Annihilation is ok.

[slaughteredfirst]

I love how R&Mers attempt to avoid anticipated flaming by name-dropping a bunch of tr00 death metal bands


You talkin to me? :mad:

[FatalEnergy]

Covenant's decent, Domination's enjoyable, and Gateway to Annihilation is ok.

I hate over excessive blast beasts and death metal growls. That's why I've never cared for anything after the first two albums.

Covenant has one good song, Angel of Disease, and that song was written in 1986 anyway.

[Freezing Moon]

I hear their demos are pretty damn good, but I haven't listened to any of them yet, myself.

[FatalEnergy]

Yeah, the demos and rehearsals are all pretty cool. Definately worth hearing. The Mike Browning-era of the band was by far the best.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Altars and Blessed rule. Covenant is alright.

[Lord Abortion]

Altars of Madness is pretty much my favourite DM album.
Domination is excellent, and Blessed has some excellent parts to it.

Um....you didn't like Damnation?
Not even where the slime live?!

That's one of the best songs...ever.



...uh and most of the DM you listen to sucks, btw.

I think the general consensus is that Nile are the ones who suck.
Apart from the drumming, obviously.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

You talkin to me?
I think he was talking to the Threadstarter.

[Moses]

I love how R&Mers attempt to avoid anticipated flaming by name-dropping a bunch of tr00 death metal bands
Yeah, if that was name dropping, there wasn't much of a point because those bands aren't very tr00 at all.

Altars of Madness* is awesome.

***** YOU GUYS

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, if that was name dropping, there wasn't much of a point because those bands aren't very tr00 at all.

Altars of Darkness is awesome.
*cough*

It's Madness....Madness Aaron.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

nice spelling there, Moses

:D

[repcak]

Altars of Madness is a masterpiece.
on the other albums they are (imo) too slow. they could have played their songs faster, but they are still a great band.

btw. i going to see them on 14.8 - how are they live?

[Moses]

Stfu guys. It's late.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

btw. i going to see them on 14.8 - how are they live?
Well I know they have been playing all old songs lately, so that's good.

[repcak]

good... i would like to hear chapels of ghouls and maze of torment live. those are my fav songs by MA

[MRDuCran]

I just download Altars of Madness so i'll give it a listen.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

It's a classic.

[pate]

good... i would like to hear chapels of ghouls and maze of torment live. those are my fav songs by MA

They sure did play those when I saw em. Immortal Rites and Where the Slime live were the highlights of the show. 'Twas excellent.

[slaughteredfirst]

...uh and most of the DM you listen to sucks, btw.

I think the general consensus is that Nile are the ones who suck.
Apart from the drumming, obviously.


To be fare, most Nile before their two most recent suck massivly.


ITDS and AotW both own though.

And I dont really think you can say the bands he listens to suck, unless of course he put down Six Feet Under.

[Lord Abortion]

To be fare, most Nile before their two most recent suck massivly.


ITDS and AotW both own though.

And I dont really think you can say the bands he listens to suck, unless of course he put down Six Feet Under.
Okay now before I get flamed let me say I love death metal, Behemoth, Nile, Suffocation, Decapitated, benighted, Kataklysm, etc
I'd say they were fairly bland, boring DM bands, to me.
Nothing particularly special to recommend them, not terrible exactly...just not great.

[slaughteredfirst]

I'd say they were fairly bland, boring DM bands, to me.
Nothing particularly special to recommend them, not terrible exactly...just not great.


Ahh, understandable with Nile. On that list he put down my favroite would be Behemoth, Decapitated have their moments of awesomeness and the new cd is very good. Kataklysm are decent, one of those bands that I listen to a lot for a while but then stop for months at a time.


What would you recommend as far as dm goes?

[Super Wotan]

Yeah. If you are a rebel you will join these forums. Musicians of all kinds come and rebel!!
ya dude fuk bush and poser bitches !!1!!!1

NP: Morbid Angel - Suffocation :cool:

[pate]

Suffocation's easily the best one listed.

EDIT: @ Ollie

[Invicta_Veritas]

I loved the music of Covenant, but hated the production.

Altars of Madness was alright I guess.

I personally actually prefer Domination.

[Freezing Moon]

What would you recommend as far as dm goes?


I'd agree that the ones he listed are crap. (Except Suffocation and the occasional Behemoth moment.)

Entombed - Left Hand Path
Obituary - Cause of Death
Autopsy - Severed Survival
Immolation - Dawn of Possession
Carcass - Necroticism
Deicide - Deicide
Death - Leprosy

Those are a few essentials.

[bluewizard]

Covenant is a really good album. I listened to it online and I'm definitely going to buy it before the year's over. Domination's a good album too from the couple songs I heard from it though they weren't fast paced.

[bluewizard]

To be fare, most Nile before their two most recent suck massivly.


ITDS and AotW both own though.

And I dont really think you can say the bands he listens to suck, unless of course he put down Six Feet Under.
Why does Six Feet Under receive a lot of hate for? I bought 13 and no it's not the best album but there's some good songs on there like my favorite of the album Shadow of the Reaper,Deathklatt, Wormfood, Decomposition of the Human Race, Somewhere in the Darkness. Though that song 13 is the worst song on the album, I gotta skip that song. I bought 13 with the Graveyard Classics 2 album as that was the only way I could buy the 13 album and that album maight as well be a Chris Rock album, it's a joke and all it does for me is give me a good laugh.:lol: Listening to Chris Barnes sing She shook me all night long gets me laughing hard.

[extreme_191]

I'd say they were fairly bland, boring DM bands, to me.
Nothing particularly special to recommend them, not terrible exactly...just not great.

k for Nile I really like their last two efforts, and consider them quite solid. With your perspective I was intrigued to ask, can you please recommend at least 5 albums that you believe contradict the bland dm that the treadstarter listed?

I'll buy the recommended albums.

Thanks you sir.:)

[Freezing Moon]

Check out the ones I recommended, they're all essential as far as DM goes. They're the classics.

[Mars Volta]

I'm about to get Altars of Madness, I hope it's better than Gateways to Annihilation because I didn't really like that one. :(

[Luc214]

To be fare, most Nile before their two most recent suck massivly.


ITDS and AotW both own though.

And I dont really think you can say the bands he listens to suck, unless of course he put down Six Feet Under.

Black Seeds of Vengeance is great too.

I don't like Six Feet Under.

[Luc214]

I'd agree that the ones he listed are crap. (Except Suffocation and the occasional Behemoth moment.)

Entombed - Left Hand Path
Obituary - Cause of Death
Autopsy - Severed Survival
Immolation - Dawn of Possession
Carcass - Necroticism
Deicide - Deicide
Death - Leprosy

Those are a few essentials.

I've never heard Entombed, Obituary is horrible I heard Frozen in time, Autopsy is good but they're grindcore not death,Never heard immolation, I have Heartwork by Carcass it's great, Deicide is BORING, Symbolic by Death is great.

[bluewizard]

k for Nile I really like their last two efforts, and consider them quite solid. With your perspective I was intrigued to ask, can you please recommend at least 5 albums that you believe contradict the bland dm that the treadstarter listed?

I'll buy the recommended albums.

Thanks you sir.:)
I recently bought Nile's Annihilation of the Wicked and I can't stop listening to it, Cast Down The Heretic is my favorite on the CD.

[bluewizard]

I've never heard Entombed, Obituary is horrible I heard Frozen in time, Autopsy is good but they're grindcore not death,Never heard immolation, I have Heartwork by Carcass it's great, Deicide is BORING, Symbolic by Death is great.
What does grindcore sound like? What make sit different from death metal? I've heard of grindcore and gorecore just confused a little. What would Macabre and Anal C(I noticed the forum censored it earlier lol) be? I want to listen to those bands sometime.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I've never heard Entombed
Get Left Hand Path.

Obituary is horrible I heard Frozen in time
You're listening to the wrong album. The first two Obituary albums are classics.

Autopsy is good but they're grindcore not death
They are Death Metal you idiot.

I have Heartwork by Carcass it's great
Get any of the first three Carcass. They are far better than Heartwork.

Deicide is BORING
Self-Titled > you

Symbolic by Death is great
Symbolic sucks.

[Super Wotan]

I completely agree with everything but the Death part. That album is amazing.

[Luc214]

Get Left Hand Path.


You're listening to the wrong album. The first two Obituary albums are classics.


They are Death Metal you idiot.


Get any of the first three Carcass. They are far better than Heartwork.


Self-Titled > you


Symbolic sucks.


I heard that Autopsy was hailed as the originator of grindcore which is an offshoot of death metal. Maybe I was misinformed.

Deicide is some of the most generic and boring DM I've ever heard, and I thought Cannibal Corpse was bad.

I just finished listening to some earlier Obituary, and it's boring too, no originality.

Symbolic is great.

[eug009]

I like a bit of Death Metal and these guys never appealed to me

[slaughteredfirst]

I heard that Autopsy was hailed as the originator of grindcore which is an offshoot of death metal. Maybe I was misinformed.

Deicide is some of the most generic and boring DM I've ever heard, and I thought Cannibal Corpse was bad.

I just finished listening to some earlier Obituary, and it's boring too, no originality.

Symbolic is great.


Sounds like your tastes are similar to mine.


Check out Zyklon, Hypcroisy and you might like Hate Eternal.

[Inpropagation]

I heard that Autopsy was hailed as the originator of grindcore which is an offshoot of death metal. Maybe I was misinformed.

Deicide is some of the most generic and boring DM I've ever heard, and I thought Cannibal Corpse was bad.

I just finished listening to some earlier Obituary, and it's boring too, no originality.

Symbolic is great.

You're ****ing dumb.

morbid angel are amazing.

[Luc214]

You're ****ing dumb.

morbid angel are amazing.

Because I have different tastes than you.

Blessed are the Sick is actually decent. But to call MA "amazing" shows how much you know about talent.

Listen to Slaves Shall Serve by Behemoth if you want some amazing death metal.

Link to Slaves Shall Serve:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M8KX4U2O

[Inpropagation]

Because I have different tastes than you.

Blessed are the Sick is actually decent. But to call MA "amazing" shows how much you know about talent.

Listen to Slaves Shall Serve by Behemoth if you want some amazing death metal.

I've seen behemoth twice and own 4 of their cd's. Don't ****ing talk to me about them idiot.

Morbid angel have made some amazing music. MUSIC ISNT ABOUT TALENT.

[Luc214]

Oh really.

What then, pray tell, is music about?

If I listen to black metal, I expect atmosphere not talent.

If I listen to death metal, I expect some ****ing talent.

Morbid Angel has talent, but not enough to call them amazing.

Amazing is listening to Necrophagist, or listening to Vai shred.

Not listening to continuous drop tuned riffs (not saying I don't like that)

[Inpropagation]

Oh really.

What then, pray tell, is music about?

If I listen to black metal, I expect atmosphere not talent.

If I listen to death metal, I expect some ****ing talent.

Morbid Angel has talent, but not enough to call them amazing.

Amazing is listening to Necrophagist, or listening to Vai shred.

Not listening to continuous drop tuned riffs (not saying I don't like that)

Again, you're ****ing dumb. TECHNICALITY != AMAZING.

Morbid Angel are better than necrophagist, sorry.

[Super Wotan]

Wow, Luc is pretty hilarious.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Amazing is listening to Necrophagist
If by amazing you mean boring to tears, then yeah.

[Luc214]

Again, you're ****ing dumb. TECHNICALITY != AMAZING.

Morbid Angel are better than necrophagist, sorry.

Techincally Necrophagist is better.

[Super Wotan]

This has nothing to do with technicality at all moron.

[Luc214]

I should have known all the MA and generic DM fanboys would come in here and start flaming me.

**** you all.

[Inpropagation]

I should have known all the MA and generic DM fanboys would come in here and start flaming me.

**** you all.

hahahaha, you're an idiot.

[Luc214]

hahaha I don't care what some dumbass on INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS thinks of me.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Your previous post says otherwise.

[Luc214]

how?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

how?
**** you all.
:wave:

[Luc214]

Yeah.... that really shows how much I care about what people think of me........ hence the "**** you all"

[Freezing Moon]

Um, you have no taste. That's all there is to it.

Autopsy is not only death metal, but they're one of the best death metal bands around, if not THE best.

Obituary is amazing.

Deicide's first two are pretty good, though they're not my favorite.

Entombed owns your soul.


Don't talk to me about boring generic death metal if you like Nile.

[Luc214]

hey Autopsy is great from what I've heard.

Entombed I'm still making up my mind about.

But Obituary and Deicide ARE generic, accept that fact and move on with your life.

Speaking of Nile, have you heard any of their newer stuff? because it's hard for me to believe someone who's heard Cast Down The Heretic or Masturbating The War God would call them generic.

[Super Wotan]

Uh, show me another vocalist that matches anything near sounding what Obituary's does. Same with Deicide.

[Toaster]

Uh, show me another vocalist that matches anything near sounding what Obituary's does. Same with Deicide.

I don't think Glen Benton is that great, he just layers like a wedding cake-maker. (:cool:) I basically like him because he's such a huge biker. John Tardy is a madman though. Very deranged.

[Luc214]

Super Wotan:

listen to The Chasm

and there's nothing that great about Glen Benton.

Obituary's vocals...... meh I don't care for them.

[Super Wotan]

Uhhhhhh, I do.

[Luc214]

Really, who cares about vocals as long as the music's good.

I don't care for some of Benighted's vox, but I listen to them because they're such an awesome band.

[Freezing Moon]

It's pretty tough to be generic when the other bands that sound like them came after.

Obituary isn't generic at all. They're like Celtic frost on speed with really sweet solos and awesome vocals.

Deicide I don't care about, I'm not that big of a fan.

[Luc214]

I don't know, I heard some more Obituary and my opinion jumped up to "not too bad."

[Freezing Moon]

Listen to these songs off of Cause of Death:

Body Bag
Chopped in Half
Find the Arise
Turned Inside Out

They're all great though.

[Luc214]

Lol it's pretty hard to judge them when amazon.com's quality is 20 kbs.

[Freezing Moon]

Uh.... yeah. You'll want to track down some good mp3's off of soulseek or something. I wouldn't judge any band off of a 20kbs song.

[Poofy 666]

...so you don't actually own the full songs, yet you judge the whole band based on 30 second samples?

EDIT: beaten

[Luc214]

yeah...

[pate]

It's pretty tough to be generic when the other bands that sound like them came after.


That's what was making me laugh about his posts: "Lawl, they r teh generix."

They were some of the first, bub.

And your post above this really negates your previous statements.

[Nosferatu]

Autopsy is good but they're grindcore not death, Symbolic by Death is great.

sorry but i laughed out loud at the Autopsy part. couldn't help it. oh, and you should pick yourself up a copy of Leprosy by Death, far much better my friend.

Techincally Necrophagist is better.

and your point? who ****ing cares how technical they are. yes, they are probably one of the most technical bands out there but they don't write very quality songs. at all. .seriously. i'm sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but...technical does NOT mean better/good.

But Obituary and Deicide ARE generic, accept that fact and move on with your life.

Obituary's vocals...... meh I don't care for them.

Really, who cares about vocals as long as the music's good.

so you're saying Obituary's music is generic? i mean i can understand different tastes in music and opinions and such but the music is just simply not generic.

[Luc214]

Yeah techincality doesn't mean better, but Necrophagist writes some damn good songs.

[Luc214]

That's what was making me laugh about his posts: "Lawl, they r teh generix."

They were some of the first, bub.

And your post above this really negates your previous statements.

Okay, but they ARE boring.

[mfdshred]

hahahaha, you're an idiot.
This man speaks the truth.

[Luc214]

And why would anyone care what you think if you think music is gay?

And okay, generic was a bad word to use. But imo Deicide is just boring.

[Nosferatu]

And why would anyone care what you think if you think music is gay?

ya know, i really really hope you didn't take his title seriously. wowzer.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Haha. I just got done reading through the last 2 pages of this nonsense.

I love it when people state opinions as facts, as if they are in any position to judge talent based on personal preference.

I personally love Necrophagist, but that doesn't mean they are better than Deicide. It means I like them more or they are more interesting IMO.

And just because a band bores me doesn't mean they are generic. A generic band does something every other band on the face of the planet does, and that's why it's boring.

[Luc214]

ya know, i really really hope you didn't take his title seriously. wowzer.


ya know, i really really hope you didn't think i was taking his title seriously. wowzer.

[Luc214]

Haha. I just got done reading through the last 2 pages of this nonsense.

I love it when people state opinions as facts, as if they are in any position to judge talent based on personal preference.

I personally love Necrophagist, but that doesn't mean they are better than Deicide. It means I like them more or they are more interesting IMO.

And just because a band bores me doesn't mean they are generic. A generic band does something every other band on the face of the planet does, and that's why it's boring.

Right I said generic was a bad word to use.

I figured everyone would understand it's my opinion.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Right I said generic was a bad word to use.

I figured everyone would understand it's my opinion.

It's the internet. Best to just say what you mean, because people will take anything else a zillion different ways. :thumb:

[Nosferatu]

ya know, i really really hope you didn't think i was taking his title seriously. wowzer.

NICE COMEBACK!! W00T

but seriously dude, leave. it will be for the best of us.
NOTE: note the word us

[Invicta_Veritas]

Really, who cares about vocals as long as the music's good.



I do have to say something about this though.


I can't believe you actually think that. Vocals end up making or breaking a band/song/album. That's half the music right there. Lyrics are somewhat of a different story, but vocals can make a song great or completely ruin it.

(Take Eleventeen/herbst's entry in this month's songwriting competition for a prime example. [Sorry guys, I had to]).

[Moses]

That was easily the best song though.

Anyway, I think this thread is done. There are too many people who care way too much in here.

[Freezing Moon]

Well, before this closes then I'd like to make a parting statement:

Morbid Angel owns your soul. Not liking them is like wanting to have your balls cut off.

That will be all.

[Luc214]

I do have to say something about this though.


I can't believe you actually think that. Vocals end up making or breaking a band/song/album. That's half the music right there. Lyrics are somewhat of a different story, but vocals can make a song great or completely ruin it.

(Take Eleventeen/herbst's entry in this month's songwriting competition for a prime example. [Sorry guys, I had to]).

For me, good vocals make an album better, but I can look past bad vocals if the music is good. :\