my voice is f*cked up

[eirlisdrumer]

ok so up until about a week ago a had been tryin to scream, but only like every once in a while i didnt do it like everyday. but like maybe a onc a week. and now when i sing up high my voice is cracks horribly and shakes really bad. so iv already decided to stop tryin to scream. but is there anyway i can repair my voice? like i have this huge gig in oct. is there anyway i can repair my voice by then?

[DespisedIcon689]

All I can say is practice. I had the same problem. I practiced 3 days a week and then I started practicing 1 day a week. Your voice gets used to screaming if you practice everyday and if you don't practice that much you have to get used to it again.

[eirlisdrumer]

well screaming isnt really important to me, plus im afraid i be doing it wrong and if i continue to practice wrong then ill REALLY mess my voice up

[MXicanDrummer]

Rest your voice, drink some green tea. If you want to practice screaming find out the right way to practice, but for not rest your oice for a few days i possible to prevent any damage.

However, I'm just a drummer so wtf do I know.

[Jo Shoe Wah]

I'm pretty sure there is a thread around here somewhere that talks about proper technique and letting your chords heal, also Merkaba has excellent advice and is knowledgeable on this subject.

[Aus_rock_god]

ok so up until about a week ago a had been tryin to scream, but only like every once in a while i didnt do it like everyday. but like maybe a onc a week. and now when i sing up high my voice is cracks horribly and shakes really bad. so iv already decided to stop tryin to scream. but is there anyway i can repair my voice? like i have this huge gig in oct. is there anyway i can repair my voice by then?

I advise you stop trying to scream and drink lots of water. Practice quietly as often as you can.

I noticed the same thing a few years ago when I started to sing more agressively.

Before I got into good olde rock and roll I used to be a tenor. But, as things went on, I got into rock, and sang for a band with a really crappy PA, so I had to sing really loud (ie: shouting a lot).

This (and a few other things I was doing wrong) cut my tenor voice to ribbons. I'm now a baritone.

I find, the harder you push your voice, the deeper it will start to drop.

[Endless Obsession]

Get the DVD "The Zen of Screaming" if you still have any interest in screaming. It teaches you how to scream correctly so you dont mess up your vocal chords.

[i am the robots]

All I can say is practice. I had the same problem. I practiced 3 days a week and then I started practicing 1 day a week. Your voice gets used to screaming if you practice everyday and if you don't practice that much you have to get used to it again.

Yeah, I went on vacation last week, and when I came back, band practices just weren't the same (though I'm back in the zone now).

[Merkaba]

Get the DVD "The Zen of Screaming" if you still have any interest in screaming. It teaches you how to scream correctly so you dont mess up your vocal chords.
Melissa is cool...but I have that dvd and to me its a weak scream she teaches. Plus its not as informative as I thought, unless I skipped something! :lol: Better than nothing I guess...and probably works well enough with a mic on stage so..but I dont like it.

Threadstarter, for now you should do light Ee's on your speaking voice. Holding them out with support,singing them. And go down low. Hold some low ones and then slide back up to speaking pitch and a few notes higher. Do this for about ten minutes. then slowly work your way up to higher notes. go here. Finish with lowest notes. http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911

[MeaninglessPhoto]

Ive messed my voice up screaming before too. I just stopped screaming for a few weeks and just rested it and it got a lot better. It changed my voice a little though.

[the_only_singer]

When I first started singing/screaming years ago I really didn't know what I was doing and pushed my voice WAY too hard and lost my voice for 4 days. Pretty freaky and I have learned to not push too hard.

[i am the robots]

TS, really, if you scream, relax your throat, it's all you need to know.

[kriswrite]

For a couple of weeks I haven't been able to post. Let's see if I've fixed the problem...

Kristina
http://voicestudio.kristinaseleshanko.com

[kriswrite]

A ha!

Ok, now here's what I've been wanting to say:

If you rest, your voice will probably be fine. Don't sing. Speak only when necessary. (Whispering usually doesn't help, and may make your voice worse.) Get plenty of sleep. Drink lots of water. Don't be in smoky areas. Do this for at least a week.

Then, gradually, get back to singing. Your voice should be okay. (If it's NOT, see an ENT [ear, nose, and throat doctor] right away, as you might have a bad case of nodes, which could permanently damage your voice if left untreated.)

I wouldn't scream for a while, either--at least until you can find a good voice coach to guide you.

Best wishes,
Kristina
http://voicestudio.kristinaseleshanko.com

[El_Goodo]

ok so up until about a week ago a had been tryin to scream, but only like every once in a while i didnt do it like everyday. but like maybe a onc a week. and now when i sing up high my voice is cracks horribly and shakes really bad. so iv already decided to stop tryin to scream. but is there anyway i can repair my voice? like i have this huge gig in oct. is there anyway i can repair my voice by then?

There's your problem!

[i am the robots]

There's your problem!

How come my voice is completely fine?

[AA-12]

...and mine. I use screaming and growling in my band all the time.

[slpntrx5]

this reminded me of when i was in a musical (yes, i am a thespian! ha!) and i had the leading role and i suddenly got sick, losing my voice for many days. the director told me to drink hot dr. pepper and lemon juice. that REALLY helped. obviously, you know about tea and water and such. hope i've helped some.

[Merkaba]

How come my voice is completely fine?
a myriad of possibilities...

He may do it way more tense than you
he may do it with a very high larynx and you don't
he may have a weaker mechanism
He may have a previous condition
he may be going out of his range
He may be trying to pull chest voice up into head


well six isnt really a myriad but...

[i am the robots]

:lol: Merkaba, you do realize you taught me to scream inadvertantly?

I've never properly thanked you, so, thank you sir.

[Merkaba]

Well cool beans. Glad I could help. Now if I could just get a goddam band!

[El_Goodo]

I just don't see whats so good about screaming lyrics in a song. It doesn't add anything, takes away from the lyrics, and makes people who are not tone deaf cringe.

I like the old rock n' roll screams, you know like during a bridge or right before a solo when its just like a howl. That adds to the excitement. And I find that Lennon's screaming on his Plastic Ono Band does add a bit to the album, and it reflects his personal life since he was going through primal scream therapy at the time.

[eirlisdrumer]

well see my voice is fine now i did rest it for a while, but im not gonna scream anymore, someone said the more you scream it makes your voice lower? if this is true i dont wanna do it. cuz im actually tryin to train my voice to go higher so going lower isnt what i want

[i am the robots]

As long as you scream properly, your voice won't change (it'll get a bit hoarse for a few days while it adapts, but then it's fine).

If you scream improperly, however, then yes, your voice will change.

I'd assume that your voice would go lower because if you're screaming improperly, you're damaging your high voice.

So, as a counter point, I'd assume, growling incorrectly could possibly force you into a higher speaking voice.

I just don't see whats so good about screaming lyrics in a song. It doesn't add anything, takes away from the lyrics, and makes people who are not tone deaf cringe.

I like the old rock n' roll screams, you know like during a bridge or right before a solo when its just like a howl. That adds to the excitement. And I find that Lennon's screaming on his Plastic Ono Band does add a bit to the album, and it reflects his personal life since he was going through primal scream therapy at the time.

Right.

You see, Theo, screaming is a form of singing too. It takes talent, it expresses emotion, and a lot of people love it.

I highly doubt someone as musically talented as Mikael Akerfeldt is tone deaf, so stop trying to sound like people who don't understand music are the only ones who like screaming. You are just quite ignorant when it comes to screaming, that's all.

[Merkaba]

I just don't see whats so good about screaming lyrics in a song. It doesn't add anything, takes away from the lyrics, and makes people who are not tone deaf cringe.

I like the old rock n' roll screams, you know like during a bridge or right before a solo when its just like a howl. That adds to the excitement. And I find that Lennon's screaming on his Plastic Ono Band does add a bit to the album, and it reflects his personal life since he was going through primal scream therapy at the time.
Ladys and Gentlemen, this would be a perfect example of what we call OPINION

This is also similar to a phenomenon we experience called musical taste.

So what if he was going through some aptly named therapy? Its therapy for alot of people when they scream on stage or in a song. I know this firsthand.

well see my voice is fine now i did rest it for a while, but im not gonna scream anymore, someone said the more you scream it makes your voice lower? if this is true i dont wanna do it. cuz im actually tryin to train my voice to go higher so going lower isnt what i want
Did you ask them how it would make their voice lower? No.... Good thing because they probably couldnt answer you. If you take your time and learn that a musical scream is not that much more overwhelming to your system and that you dont ever need to push 100% for any vocal technique, then you will be fine. But you have to learn it.

[Mekkalayakay]

someone said the more you scream it makes your voice lower?


Chuck Schuldiner still had his high pitched voice on Live in LA, and he did nothing but (well I guess I wouldn't call it screams) death metal vocals (death style) for over 15 years before his death.

[Mars The Mental]

my friend who has screamed and growled for his band of 4years
has this ritual of chewing ginger slices before every gig. said it
works for him, makes his screaming smoother. though i cant imagine
what that must've tasted like. :amaze: