locking tuners...

[Ibanman]

I'v heard putting locking tuners onto a guitar with a fixed bridge will destroy strings? is this true?

also, would these tuners be any good?

http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/shop/products.php?category=215&product=5377

[Flex of the Yellow]

Bump, I would also like to know, they look pretty decent

[Peg Dizzler]

Hey TS,

Whoever told you that is crazy! Tuners don't destroy anything... better ones just hold tuning better! It could be that that person was confusing locking tuners with a locking nut. A locking nut wouldn't destroy strings either, but they're not to be used with a fixed bridge.

Those tuners look nice man, Gotoh is a great brand.

[myles]

what would hppen if you were to put a loking nut on a fixed brigde , i imagine that it would keep it in tune better because the strings are held down at both ends. could some one explian this a little further ?

[Son of Magni]

what would hppen if you were to put a loking nut on a fixed brigde , i imagine that it would keep it in tune better because the strings are held down at both ends. could some one explian this a little further ?
How would you tune it?

[7 skrang]

what would hppen if you were to put a loking nut on a fixed brigde , i imagine that it would keep it in tune better because the strings are held down at both ends. could some one explian this a little further ?
when you lock down the bolts on a locking nut, the strings go out of tune slightly. you wouldn't be able to tune them with a fixed bridge. locking bridges have fine tuners which allow you to do this.

[sunshineplaysbass]

But, the string will naturally strech, locking tuners are used with trems alot since it leaves room for the string to stretch, here, there is no room to strech (it's locked at both ends) so it will naturally be tighter and thus, or at least it seems like, it would be more prone to string breakage.
but....gotohs are nice.

[myles]

How would you tune it?



lossen the string locker and tune it and clamp them down agian

[FunkMetalBass]

lossen the string locker and tune it and clamp them down agian

When it clamps down, the string is raised in pitch slightly.

So, basically, you'd have to use the trial-and-error method to get the string to the correct pitch. And the nice thing about locking nuts is that you have to clamp 2 strings at a time, so you have two deal with both simultaneously.

[Peg Dizzler]

But, the string will naturally strech, locking tuners are used with trems alot since it leaves room for the string to stretch, here, there is no room to strech (it's locked at both ends) so it will naturally be tighter and thus, or at least it seems like, it would be more prone to string breakage.
but....gotohs are nice.
Well, that really doesn't make any sense. That's not the reason at all. It's simply because locking tuners need to be used in conjunction with a bridge that has fine tuners. I've seen tune-o-matic bridges with fine tuners and a locking nut at the other end.

lossen the string locker and tune it and clamp them down agian
Yeah, you try it..

[myles]

ya i guess it would change the pitch a little bit ,but once you get it right you wouldnt have to retune it untill you change the strings

[Son of Magni]

ya i guess it would change the pitch a little bit ,but once you get it right you wouldnt have to retune it untill you change the strings
If you ever get it right...

Also every time you loosen and re-clamp, you're damaging the string, crushing the windings in another spot. You may need a new set of strings before you're even done.

The reason you want a locking nut with a whammy bar? When you use the trem, the strings can slide in their slots in the nut and you are instantly out of tune.

[FunkMetalBass]

ya i guess it would change the pitch a little bit ,but once you get it right you wouldnt have to retune it untill you change the strings

But strings naturally stretch.

Your strings slip out of tune during play because it's how they are designed. There is no way around it. You basically have two options: Locking nut/bridge with tuners, or normal nut/fixed bridge.

After 10 minutes of having both together, you'd get pissed off and realize that it was a waste of money to install both.