To Jane (ie nub user)

[Arucard]

You said that Sum 41 covered Metallica and didn't do the solo's. Newsflash, they did, and not only did they do the solo's, but they did them better because Dave Baksh > Kirk Hammet.

This may be closed when this new user see's the light.

[repcak]

and you have to do an extra-thread to say him this? you should know better that this is against the rules and just stupid

[StreetlightRock]

Sum 41 is great:

http://www.tenaciousd.com/audio/thingsiwant.ram

Tenacious D and Sum 41, awsome song.

[jane]

You said that Sum 41 covered Metallica and didn't do the solo's. Newsflash, they did, and not only did they do the solo's, but they did them better because Dave Baksh > Kirk Hammet.

This may be closed when this new user see's the light.

What was the song?

[Arucard]

It was a medley of songs, but the solo they played was the Master Of Puppets one.

[jane]

It was a medley of songs, but the solo they played was the Master Of Puppets one.
I know a lot of people that can play master of puppets solo (even my granma)
So tell me: if sum41 are so great , why they dont covered "No remorse" "jump in the fire" or "seek n destroy" ?

Or "the frayed end of sanity" (My favorite Metallica song )

[PrimalBreath]

The Seek and Destroy solo kind of sucks. :(

[jane]

The Seek and Destroy solo kind of sucks. :(
Byu (or download) the "kill em all" album

[PrimalBreath]

You're funny. I have Kill Em All, unfortunately. James sounds horrible.

Dont speak about thing that you dont know

Ironic, coming from the person who said that Sum 41 didn't do any solos in their cover :thumb:

[jane]

The Seek and Destroy solo kind of sucks. :(
Byu a guitar and try to play seek and destroy's solo

[Shadows Within]

lol the Sum 41 guitarist pwns, isint his side project (or main) a death metal band?

[PrimalBreath]

Byu a guitar and try to play seek and destroy's solo

This is already quite old. I play guitar, and I actually rather like Metallica. I can play numerous Hammet solos, but Seek and Destroy sucks, almost as much as your futile argument. So, let's end it at that.

[jane]

What about "The phantom lord"

This is already quite old. I play guitar, and I actually rather like Metallica.I can play numerous Hammet solos.
I would like too see that

[Arucard]

I would like to see Metallica not sucking.

[jane]

I would like to see Metallica not sucking.
You'r right. They sucked after the black album (1991) , but even "sucking metallica" is superior than sum41 and all its clones

[Steerpike]

Byu a guitar and try to play seek and destroy's solo


A few things...

1. The ability to play something is not exclusively linked to the ability to criticize it.
2. Seek and Destroy sucks.
3. Metallica sucks.
4. Don't bother arguing with me about this, because you will lose. I have beaten people with far more rhetorical sense and wit than you.

[jane]

A few things...

2. Seek and Destroy sucks.
3. Metallica sucks.
.
Can you give some reason please?

[Arucard]

You'r right. They sucked after the black album (1991) , but even "sucking metallica" is superior to sum41 and all its clones

I'd probably say they always sucked. Whiplash is their only good song, and Kreator, Sodom and Exodus do what they do, just alot better.

I'll give reasons for Metallica sucking :

1. The only member with the slightest bit of talent is Hetfield, and its all but spent now.
2. Hammet sucks.
3. Lars can't actually keep in time to save his life.
4. They've made a string of horrific albums.
5. Iron Maiden have been around longer, are better, and continue to release brilliant music. So basically, just listen to Iron Maiden instead.

[PrimalBreath]

Steerpike commands a fearsome presence, as evidenced by the fact that it told me to buy a guitar and "know what I'm talking about" but meekly inquired for some elaboration on your part.

As for Metallica sucking, I like Master of Puppets, and a few assorted songs here and there, but yeah. Not really amazing.

[jane]

I'd probably say they always sucked. Whiplash is their only good song, and Kreator, Sodom and Exodus do what they do, just alot better.
Your saying that :
hit the light
No remorse
jump in the fire
phantom lord
metal militia
ride the lighnting
call of ktulu
creeping death
Battery
sanitarium
orion
one
to live is to die ....(and many others), are not good songs ?

[Steerpike]

Can you give some reason please?

-Boring, repetitive riffs all arranged in a very formulaic way.
-Predictable, wanky solos.
-Obnoxious vocals.
-Bland albums.
-Piss poor drumming.
-Terrible treatment of bassist, both in and out of the studio.
-Cliff Burton is overrated.
-No excuse for writing songs longer than 4 minutes, as all such songs are boring as hell.
-Running out of steam.

That about covers it.

[PrimalBreath]

I do believe Lars deserves a category for his personality.

[Mazeppa]

Your saying that :
hit the light
No remorse
jump in the fire
phantom lord
metal militia
ride the lighnting
call of ktulu
creeping death
Battery
sanitarium
orion
one
to live is to die ....(and many others), are not good songs ?
Those songs are all very well, people just get sick and tired of Metallica being wacked off for being musical gods way way too often.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Your saying that :
hit the light
No remorse
jump in the fire
phantom lord
metal militia
ride the lighnting
call of ktulu
creeping death
Battery
sanitarium
orion
one
to live is to die ....(and many others), are not good songs ?
That's pretty much what he's saying.

I think Metallica's old material is overrated as hell, but I do owe them for getting me further into Metal.

[jane]

I'd probably say they always sucked. Whiplash is their only good song, and Kreator, Sodom and Exodus do what they do, just alot better.

I'll give reasons for Metallica sucking :

2. Hammet sucks.
.
Once again , How can you say that some one sucks without giving the reason?

[jane]

-Boring, repetitive riffs all arranged in a very formulaic way.
-Predictable, wanky solos.
-Obnoxious vocals.
-Bland albums.
-Piss poor drumming.
-Terrible treatment of bassist, both in and out of the studio.
-Cliff Burton is overrated.
-No excuse for writing songs longer than 4 minutes, as all such songs are boring as hell.
-Running out of steam.

That about covers it.
Where are the reasons for seek and setroy solo sucking?

[Mazeppa]

Where are the reasons for seek and setroy solo sucking?
Well, it's pretty boring for one.

[PrimalBreath]

Where are the reasons for seek and setroy solo sucking?

-Predictable, wanky solo

Yeah. That and he hits a bunch of out of key notes.

[Steerpike]

Where are the reasons for seek and setroy solo sucking?

It's boring as hell. I'd assume that fell under the "Predictable, wanky solos" thing I mentioned.

Yeah. That and he hits a bunch of out of key notes.

Kirk Hammet's philosophy on guitar solos: I'll just play blues kind of fast. And if I hit a bunch of notes wrong, I'll call them chromatics and push it through my wah pedal. No one will ever know the difference!

[jane]

It's boring as hell. I'd assume that fell under the "Predictable, wanky solos" thing I mentioned.


But sum41 (and other assorted a**holes) can't play it

[Lord Abortion]

Once again , How can you say that some one sucks without giving the reason?
Lars Ulrich.

There is no other reason that is necessary to give, other than this one, (though there are many) that Metallica after 1985 and Ride the Lightning, suck pigeon arse.

The reason Metallica suck is here.

The album that killed heavy metal - 0%
Written by UltraBoris on March 21st, 2004


It takes some DAMN GOOD reasoning to give this album such a low rating. The zero implies the absolute nadir of musicality, a level that can only be dreamt of by mere mortals as Fred Durst and your blender. What in Satan's name could this album have done to deserve such a low rating?? It pretty much singlehandedly ENDED heavy metal, that's what. Now, on a strictly musical level, I would give this album a 62 or so. It's not bad. It really isn't. It's certainly not as bad as Saint Anger, proud owner of a former record-low "3%" rating. It's not even as bad as the album that would follow it, And Justice for All, and when all is said and done, it pretty much sums up the averageness of the thrash movement perfectly.

First off, it is where **** really starts to fall apart for Metallica as a band. At this point, you can see the impending death - not just bodily, but creative as well. They are out of Mustaine riffs, and Hetfield isn't exactly the smartest, cleverest cookie in the box, and he's forced to scramble and improvise, so out comes one bashing thrasher, a few more assorted riffs here and there, and then all kinds of half-assed and half-baked ideas that pretty much do not belong in Heavy Metal, the land of the free, the home of the brave... unfortunately, the world caught on to THIS album, this expression of vapidity, and decided that THIS was the way to go.

This album is the Nirvana "Smells like Teen Spirit" of heavy metal. It brought heavy metal to its knees, and castrated it mightily. It is, then, by definition, the most damaging, counterproductive, and overrated LP ever to be released. Even standing it up on its own, and not letting it poison the minds of those that came after it, I wouldn't even put it in the top 10 most influential thrash releases of 1986... it's easily killed by the unholy trinity of Darkness Descends, Reign in Blood, and Pleasure to Kill, which pushed the envelope of metal in three different, related directions. It's not anywhere nearly as enjoyable as expatriate Mustaine's Peace Sells, which was technically brilliant and a whole barrel of fun too, or as dark as Possessed's sophomore effort, or Sepultura and Sodom's full-length debuts. It's not nearly as punk-as-fun as Nuclear Assault's first. Then I could throw in fifteen, if not fifty, other backwash thrash LPs that did nothing for the genre as far as influence goes, but are still a whole ****load more enjoyable than this one.

So... the songs. There is some ownage here. Battery, for example, is ****ing heavy, and works brilliantly well, as a destroyer of worlds. The title track is a bit more calculated, with its main riff gronked from one of the Metal Church demos (also "Over My Dead Body"), and but it dies for a bit in that little Hetfield noodle section in the middle. Say what you will, that part is dumb, and a harbringer of what is to come. Not just because it is dumb, but because it is hailed as visionary - not just on the album, but with this band, and with metal in general. This album didn't do ANYTHING make metal a better, more viable genre... hell, by 1986, everything that was good about metal was pretty much established, it was just a matter of time before all the stupid ideas reared their ugly ****ing heads and turned the scene into self-parody. From the inane mindless riff-ennui of Jon Schaffer and Iced Earth, to the stupid dynamic mismanagement of a million bands, ranging from misplaced melodicism of the Gothenburg scene to the awful monotony of Opeth... all of these can be traced back to the vast commercial success of this album. Being "less than thrash" was viewed as a Good Thing. Less than over-the-top, less than expanding the genre, less than creative, less than heavy ****ing metal. And of course, as is the human tendency to accept mediocrity, because excellence requires actual EFFORT... people jumped right on this very ****ing album. They saw that they did not have to put out an all-out Bonded by Blood thrash****ing mind****, or even the complex harmonic beauty of stuff like Peace Sells, with its shredding solos and powerful interludes. If they just put in a obligatory Slow Solo Section, a la Suck Hetfield, they would be accepted as correct by their metal brethren. Rah, rah, put up the horns, thank you for being bland. A thousand Nevermores were spawned by THIS album.

Third song... this probably is the parodic equivalent of Black Sabbath here. Because Black Sabbath were midpaced, creative, and heavy. This is midpaced, boring, and plodding. There is nothing to this song, and of course, it would be viewed as a ****ing staple of the "groove-thrash" movement. Robbb Flynnn, he whose contributions to excess are merely putting extra letters on the end of his first name, probably ejaculated twice as hard when he heard this song - and realised he could play ****ty and get away with it - than in ANY other time of his life, and that includes his entire career in Vio-lence. This very well may be the song that spawned Machine Head, and of course when Hetfield, through the wall-of-saliva incident, corrupted Diamond Darrell into being a groove monkey, spawned modern Pantera too.

Next up, a cheesy ballad, Sanitarium, which again contains soft sections for the sake of having soft sections. Of course, proper use of dynamics had been completely, TOTALLY invented by about 1976... if Sabotage didn't have it, then Sad Wings certainly did, and anyone claiming to add something new to the idea was pretty much full of hot air. Maybe Rainbow's "Stargazer" can lay a small claim to things, a small claim to have added SOMETHING. And Sanitarum adds nothing. That said, it does not even play the standard cards correctly - there are tons of songs that start off soft and then build up to a frenzied crescendo, and most of them are far more effective than this. See Helstar's "Winds of War" for a perfect example, or even the previous LP's "Fade to Black" for one that works decently well. But of course, there is "Megalomania". And then there is this crap. And that's what this is - unmitigated crap, masquerading as thrash, but being plodding, boring, modern bull****. This song has absolutely no balls whatsoever. And heavy metal is about BALLS. It's about riffs, it's about smashing a spike through the brains of the listener, making him/her/it perk up and die hard. It's about the slow, twisting zombie passages of Triumph of Death. It's about the flash and the colour and the violence of Chainsaw Charlie. It's about the constant multidirectional bludgeon of From the Past Comes the Storms. It's CERTAINLY NOT about Hetfield moaning "leave me be..." like a thousand other assrape victims to come. But, unfortunately, this is what the world caught onto. This is the illusion that destroyed reality, the feeble cry of patheticness in the night, that virally castrated a powerful genre. Because as Possessed and D.F.A. and up-and-coming bands like Death and Nocturnus were constantly playing loud, proud, and heavy and expanding the genre... and as a thousand other bands like Iron Maiden and Helloween were consistently waving the banner of Judas ****ing Priest... as all of those bands demonstrated vibrancy and life, here was THIS virus, this awful plague of self-mocking stupidity, that slowly corrupted the whole thing from within. And people wonder what happened to metal? People wonder why years like 1993 came along, and why horrendous, backwards bands like Lamb of God and Damage Plan are now on the forefront of the scene? People WONDER - no, it was inevitable, that the mediocrity would rise and destroy everything in its path. All it took was for the metal scene to be inundated with this backwash crap, this horrendous assault that seems so soothing, so relaxing... so "it's OKAY if you suck, junior", so Kurt Cobain before Kurt Cobain himself. Look, this band sucks too, and look at the instant popularity they have. Gresham's Law is a harsh mistress.

So yes, maybe I was mistaken. Maybe this is the album that should be lauded as the avant-garde of the metal scene of 1986. Forget Dark Angel's 286 beats per minute of ultimate heaviness, throw away Reign in Blood's chaotic assault on the senses, and certainly avoid thinking about Pleasure to Kill's death-metal tendencies. Oh no no, none of THOSE albums did jack **** for the metal genre, because the metal genre is OF COURSE about technological backwardsism, insipidity, and playing turned to "4", because only losers like Motorhead play, eat, drink, ****, sleep, etc... on "11". Save the aggression for the Jager sessions, right Hetfield? The actual music needs to be a complete ****ing lullaby. Horror of horrors - though mathematically inevitable of course - the metal genre ate this bull**** up. Again, look at the top bands in pop metal today... the uninspired Iced Earth, who have not had a good idea since 1994, of course proudly declare that early Metallica is their foremost influence. The godawful Machine Head, as mentioned before - groove-monkeys to the core. The lame Testament, who were, other than their lead guitarist, a few screw turns loose in the creativity department - their The New Order (a "thrash classic", my ***) is pretty much a fourth-rate Master of Puppets ripoff, and their latest stuff takes ideas that were more heavily present on this LP, and less so on others.

[Steerpike]

But sum41 (and other assorted a**holes) can't play it

Why would they want to?

[Lord Abortion]

fifth up is Disposable Heroes, eight minutes of thrash, showing that, if pressed, the band could still deliver the goods. This, along with Battery, is the highlight of the album. It's competent thrash a la 1984 or 1985, except maybe a bit overlong. That said, if you think this has crushing riffage, you have not heard Exodus's Piranha. Again, if the album were all like this, then it would be an average thrasher, not unlike a thousand others that came out in this year. See Death Angel's "The Ultraviolence" for a quick example. Following Disposable Heroes is the clearly Mustaine-written - at least, in the interesting parts, anyway - Leper Messiah. That middle break is so completely Killing/Peace Sells that the fact that Hetfield could even barely begin to claim that he and Ulrich wrote the song is promptly ludicrous, and more so a flat out ****ing lie. I can see Hetfield writing the plodding, Should Not Be-esque beginning and end of the song, but that middle section has the Mark of Dave. I have no idea how this band managed to assign songwriting credits, but the idea of Ulrich coming up with songs is laughable. It is this little ****ing troll that can personally be shown to be the anti-metal figure. No, not just because of Napster. Not because of the black album, and Bob Rock, and a thousand other crimes against humanity in the 1990s. He had a hand on THIS album too. Hetfield, by himself, would probably been happy penning silly odes to bludgeonry, a thousand Batteries, each with a slightly lower voltage than the last, and the band would have died its appropriate death by mediocrity. Kublai Khan, anyone? No one's heard of Kublai Khan, and no one should have ever heard of Metallica after 1984 or so. They just got incredibly lucky that Ulrich got kicked out of Metal Church in 1980, and had nothing to do with the east coast scene, where Overkill was busy declaring that they just didn't give a ****. They just wanted to play live, and repeatedly they compromised their good business sense to continue doing so. Quite a sad thing, that Overkill shot themselves in the face with their selling of their demo to Azra Records for booze money, but when all is said and done, THAT attitude is BY FAR more The Metal Way than anything Metallica could have done. Overkill didn't give a ****, and just played cranked to 11, finishing their set with Tyrant, and recognising Joey Ramone and Lemmy Kilmister as the twin gods of excess and everything that is right and "**** yeah!" about the world. Then, there was Megadeth, with Mustaine, who instantly, at the very moment the band was founded, or maybe even before then... when Mustaine was sent back to San Francisco on that four-day bus trip, THAT is when Megadeth became a better band than Metallica would ever be, because Mustaine was right pissed off, and he would outdo, outgun, and outriff the band that had jilted him, because that is the metal way, to be over-the-top and full of dashing creative energy.

. Ulrich, who had not a whit of songwriting sense to him... he was kicked out of Metal Church in '80 because his drumming was nonexistent at best. He of course had the spark of marketing, where he landed himself a deal on a compilation without a band, or anything other than flyers of Saxon at the Whiskey. And he knew, that the way to make it to the top was not the way of Possessed, because Possessed were too heavy and too rough to be anything but a cult band. He knew that the way to the top was to scheme and to cover one's self in a heavy dose of bull****. Then, he got lucky, because he had a pal named Hetfield, that really wanted to kill all the record label executives, and combine Hetfield's true extravagance with Ulrich's poseurism, and what you got was a band that appeared to be rebellious. Throw in Cliff Burton's hippie tendencies, and Kirk Hammett's irrelevance, and the image was complete. And at the beginning, the band did have the metal madness, when they wrote silly odes to Weapon like Hit the Lights - empty of social relevance, but completely heavy ****ING metal. Thanks, Hetfield and Tanner. It's not hard to be a metal kid, and at the beginning, Hetfield was a metal kid. Then Ulrich slowly but surely turned him into a puppet. The album title can be viewed as a proud declaration of Ulrich's conquest of Hetfield, of Metallica, and eventually of the entire scene. The little troll infused mediocrity, and slowly burned the world from the inside out. Hetfield became a raging alcoholic, hanging on to whatever riffs he could remember stealing from Mustaine. Burton's hippie-rock, which was fine for what it is, but had no place in metal whatsoever, soon became the overriding creative force in the band, and of course had to be recognised, because Ulrich knew that if he approved another Hell Awaits, the scene would bury him fast. And of course, it would be ludicrous to imply that he was one-ten-thousandth the drummer the Lombardo was.

So along came Master of Puppets. Random hippie crap, combined with a few random recycled Mustaine moments, all held together by the glue of Hetfield's average riff constructions - perfectly suitable for an average, mediocre, fifth-rate garage thrash ensemble. And Ulrich's megalomania, that realised that this steaming pile of directionless garbage was THE universal solution to bringing him fame. Not that it was any good - precisely because it WASN'T. Because it was mediocre, any idiot with an axe could be like Hetfield now, and if Ride the Lightning sold a whole ****load of copies, then Master of Puppets, on inertia alone, would sell a whole ****load more, and thus the seed was set. And that, my friends, is why Lars Ulrich is the worst thing ever to happen to heavy ****ing metal.

After the obligatory Mustaine composition comes the long section of hippie crap, that is not only the worst song on the album, but THE final stake through the heart of heavy metal. I hear Orion, and I hear Opeth. I hear a heap of **** that is labelled "progressive" and "visionary", but is really a space-filler. A throwback to the 1960s and the 1970s - stuff that Black Sabbath quickly moved away from, and used only in small amounts. Progressive rock was dangerous stuff, to be used in form only, not in actual substance. Careful with it, and get brilliant stuff like The Writ. Too much results in Fluff. And Iommi was smart to recognise this, but Cliff Burton was not. And he continued to write songs full of this dreck. Ask Hetfield to throw on a few random metal riffs, and what you get is something claimed as "amazing" by all the losers that would also claim In Flames as a masterwork of a band. Of course, this anthem to loserhood has no heart whatsoever, no spirit, no emotional content. Nothing. Thunderhead, this is not. Stargazer? **** no. Certainly not anything out of the Diamond Head catalogue. Not Am I Evil, To the Devil His Due, or even Ishmael. Diamond Head got it right, and despite the endless stream of pointers from Lars to their general direction, Metallica did not. But of course, it is easier to derive inspiration from the half-baked. Easy to look at what did not get it right, and claim that to be the best thing ever, simply so that when you make something similar, you can pat yourself on the back and be proud. Thus, Dark Tranquillity, be proud. You sound like complete ****, and have the intensity of zero point zero Iommis, and you are hailed as an excellent modern band. Because you took the Orion approach to things. So, Dark Tranquillity, make sure to send Lars a Christmas card once a year, because you owe your entire career to him. So many bands nowadays do. So many bands would never have gotten off the ground, if "getting off the ground" were not so kindly redefined as "flopping right over and accomplishing nothing" a la Orion.

Then, the last song. Damage Incorporated is the last of Hetfield's contributions to the album... fast and completely insipid. This is not, in any way, shape, or form, to be mistaken for The Burning of Sodom. This is James Hetfield's dying cry as Lars Ulrich finishes him off. In fact, if you look carefully, you can see the exact frame where his heart rips in two. Desperation breeds stupidity, and here is the final desperate act of a man driven to Jagermeister, not because of the grueling tribulations of the road, or of having one's equipment stolen, or because he had to send an ex-guitarist back to the west coast in a box on wheels. It's the final death of a man that thinks he is on top of the world, being the frontman of the most famous heavy metal band in existence... but slowly, subconsciously, realising he is not at all in control, and knowing that he's going to have to put on a smiling bull**** face for however many years, because he certainly can't QUIT the band, but the only way to stay in is to submit to Lars Ulrich, despite all of their public assurances that they are partners in crime. Hetfield is weak, and resorts to over-the-top boasting. Most thrash bands would, of course, do something like this, but somehow none of the Overkill catalogue comes off nearly this pathetic, this fake, this... incorporated. Overkill are rotten to the core in the best sense of the word... Metallica in the worst, most corporate. And at the head of this machine is the midget himself, Lars Ulrich. He holds the world in his hands... his band, his "music", his scene.

Best not to listen, kids. If you have any decency, any individuality, any self-respect. THIS is why I gave the album a zero, because it is the album that will slowly draw you in and destroy you too. Let this be your warning.

"Master of puppets, I'm pulling your strings..." ...

[jane]

Lars Ulrich.

There is no other reason that is necessary to give, other than this one, (though there are many) that Metallica after 1985 and Ride the Lightning, suck pigeon arse.

The reason Metallica suck is here.
That's not my question.
I asked for reasons of kirk hammet sucking.(before the load and reload albums)

[PrimalBreath]

But sum41 (and other assorted a**holes) can't play it

You say that like you've observed, recorded, documented and notorized every note their guitarists have played. They could know every single not to Far Beyond the Sun and you wouldn't know it.

Simply put, just because a band doesn't show off and **** out four minute solos at a blinding speed doesn't mean they can't.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

man that review rules.

[jane]

Why would they want to?
They wouldn't want do .Because their gay hands can't shred quickly on guitars .
I mess the hair metal era , where bands were judged for their skill and not for their image.

[Steerpike]

Simply put, just because a band doesn't show off and **** out four minute solos at a blinding speed doesn't mean they can't.

Or that they should.

[Lord Abortion]

Please read all of that, it's possibly the best album review I have ever read, and apart from the slagging off of Iced Earth, which is uncalled for and for untrue reasons, is the best reason why Metallica suck.

Many thanks, Ultra Boris:)

[Steerpike]

They wouldn't want do .Because their gay hands can't shred quickly on guitars .
I mess the hair metal era , where bands were judged for their skill and not for their image.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, how naive.

Pick up some Lost Horizon and get back to me.

Please read all of that, it's possibly the best album review I have ever read, and apart from the slagging off of Iced Earth, which is uncalled for and for untrue reasons, is the best reason why Metallica suck.

Indeed it is. Metallica: 50% more mediocre than the competition! :thumb:

[PrimalBreath]

I mess the hair metal era , where bands were judged for their skill and not for their image.

This has to be a gimmick account now.

[Arucard]

That's not my question.
I asked for reasons of kirk hammet sucking.(before the load and reload albums)

He is technically incompetent. His solo's are bland, boring and full of pointless (and very easy) wanking. Not to quote shred durst, but his vibrato sucks. So does his intonation, where the **** is he bending to half the time?

Better guitarists : The Maiden 3, Michael Romeo, Alex Lifeson.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

oh give him a break guys we all know how easy it is to get glam and shred confused i mean i do it all the time lolz!

>:|

[Mazeppa]

This has to be a gimmick account now.
Haha, that's what I thought.

[Steerpike]

Better guitarists : The Maiden 3, Michael Romeo, Alex Lifeson.

As long as we're on the topic: Al Pitrelli, Criss Oliva, Chris Caffery, Joe Satriani, Wojtek Lisicki, Erik Ravin...

[Arucard]

Oh and one last thing. Lets take a look at bands that cite Metallica as a main influence :

Trivium
Bullet For My Valentine
All That Remains
Lost Prophets

Im seeing a coralation between liking Metallica and failing at music here.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

James Murphy and Marty Friedman > *

[jane]

His solo's are bland, boring and full of pointless (and very easy) .
Not as easy as sum41 songs.
When Kirk hammet write a guitar solo , he did more than sum41 in all their discography

[Steerpike]

Not as easy as sum41 songs.
When Kirk hammet write a guitar solo , he did more than sum41 in all their discography

:lol:

So simple is bad? Tell that to Johnny Cash. His cover of Hurt was more powerful than anything Metallica could ever dream of doing.

[jane]

James Murphy and Marty Friedman > *
Yeah .Marty friedman is GOD
Hangar 18, high speed dirt , tornado of souls .

The guy (gay) from sum41 needs to train for billions years to learn a speed metal guitar solo .

[PrimalBreath]

When Kirk hammet write a guitar solo , he did more than sum41 in all their discography

It's a shame Metallica can't write a hook to save their lives.

Again, I like some Metallica, but I'm not going to pretend they're the epitome of music, and I'm not against bashing them.

[Arucard]

Not as easy as sum41 songs.
When Kirk hammet write a guitar solo , he did more than sum41 in all their discography

The difference being that Sum 41 songs are catchy.

[Mother]

NP -Megadeth - Hangar 18

[jane]

Please. Listen to : megadeth, pantera, symphonyX,old metallica, van halen, manowar, guns'n roses,mercyful fate . And then try telling that sum41 are not a**holes

[PrimalBreath]

You're naming bands everyone on Earth has heard.

[Steerpike]

Please. Listen to : megadeth, pantera, symphonyX,old metallica, van halen, manowar, guns'n roses,mercyful fate . And then try telling that sum41 are not a**holes

Please. Stop pretending to know **** about music. I listen to whatever I want because I'm not blinded by delusions of genre superiority.

[Mazeppa]

Please. Listen to : megadeth, pantera, symphonyX,old metallica, van halen, manowar, guns'n roses,mercyful fate . And then try telling that sum41 are not a**holes
Man, looks like a serious case of angst.

Stop taking Sum41 so seriously and chill.

[jane]

Please. Stop pretending to know **** about music. I listen to whatever I want because I'm not blinded by delusions of genre superiority.
Jane:1 sum41fans:0

[Lord Abortion]

I wonder if Kirk Hammett practiced every second of every day for his entire life, that he would ever write something as good as the simplest thing John Petrucci has written?

[PrimalBreath]

Jane:1 sum41fans:0

You've actually been smacked around by pretty much everybody that's posted here.

[jane]

You're naming bands everyone on Earth has heard.
If you know evry bands and their songs on earth,do you think sum41 can play mercyful fate's "A Gruesome time"
Hank Serhmann == shredding god
the guy from sum41==a boys band a**hole that claim to be a good guitarist

[Steerpike]

Jane:1 sum41fans:0

Considering most of us aren't even Sum41 fans anyway, that score is unbalanced.

I don't even like the band, but your clumsy fumbling around attempting to sound intelligent and make a point is just too god damn adorable. I could just eat you up.

[PrimalBreath]

I wonder when a mod will close this thread down?

[Arucard]

Please. Stop pretending to know **** about music. I listen to whatever I want because I'm not blinded by delusions of genre superiority.

Lol what an idiot. The fact i actually mentioned Michael Romeo and he didn't know he was from Symphony X proves that this guy needs to go kill himself.

[Super Wotan]

This jane person is hilarious, trying to drop names and seem smart. All I have to say is this:

I am smarter in EVERYTHING than you will ever be.

I know much more about music than you do.

I am a better musician.

Sum 41 is made up of great musicians.

Don't try arguing with me over this.

[Steerpike]

If you know evry bands and their songs on earth,do you think sum41 can play mercyful fate's "A Gruesome time"
Hank Serhmann == shredding god
the guy from sum41==a boys band a**hole that claim to be a good guitarist

Steerpike = Veteran of the R&M forums, specializing in power metal and author of long-running series of threads spotlighting individual bands. Short-tempered, but intelligent, and a big hit with the ladies.
Jane = Noob putting together incoherent posts and getting repeatedly pwned.

Well, I think we have a winner here. :thumb:

[Mazeppa]

Steerpike, I think you missed willing to help people out who are willing to accept it :-p

[jane]

This jane person is hilarious, trying to drop names and seem smart. All I have to say is this:



I know much more about music than you do.

.
If you speak about todays music, you'r right .You know more gay bands than me . But what about Trash ,speed, heavy metal?

[Lord Abortion]

I haven't laughed so much at a thread in aaaaages.

Props, seriously.

[PrimalBreath]

He just got done talking about Power Metal, and I think it's safe to assume if the only band you're citing Thrash-wise is Metallica (and other closely related bands of that ilk) you know jack **** about metal, and judging from your posts music in general.

[Jom]

I like how using the word "gay" repeatedly is supposed to be insulting.

You've actually been smacked around by pretty much everybody that's posted here.

This is pretty funny, though, too, along with name-dropping obvious bands.

[Hep Kat]

Wow, four pages.

[Super Wotan]

If you speak about todays music, you'r right .You know more gay bands than me . But what about Trash ,speed, heavy metal?
Try me.

[Steerpike]

I like how using the word "gay" repeatedly is supposed to be insulting.

As I've often said, the gay joke is the universe's gift to the dull-witted.

[Lord Abortion]

Seriously, Try me...go on, ask me anything about pretty much any genre of metal.
Go oooooon.

I ****ing daaaare you.

[jane]

Try me.
Who is dave mustain's god father?
(a simple question)

[Steerpike]

Who is dave mustain's god father?
(a simple question)

Out of curiosity, what does this actually have to do with the music?

[Hep Kat]

Who is dave mustain's god father?
(a simple question)

Mother of God, even I know that.


Oh yeah, and this:

Out of curiosity, what does this actually have to do with the music?



Btw, this thread totally delivers. Rep all around :chug:

[jane]

Out of curiosity, what does this actually have to do with the music?
I was talking to trash metal audience

[Apocalyptic Raids]

This must be a gimmick.

[Super Wotan]

Ahahaha, that has nothing to do with music you idiot.

[MYR]

Once again , How can you say that some one sucks without giving the reason?

If I wanted to see boring unoriginal solos using tapping and wah pedals, I'd go to my local guitar center, not a Metallica concert.


/2cents

[Hep Kat]

This must be a gimmick.

Considering the fact that he keeps saying "trash metal," (among other reasons) I'd say yeah.

[PrimalBreath]

I was talking to trash metal adudoifiaodpgja'seg

That still doesn't hold any relevance, no matter who your target audience was.

[Steerpike]

My turn to ask a question. This one's much harder.

Which guitarist who has worked with King Diamond produced Melechesh's third studio album, Sphinx, and even contributed a solo to one of the songs?

[Hep Kat]

My turn to ask a question. This one's much harder.

Which guitarist who has worked with King Diamond produced Melechesh's third studio album, Sphinx, and even contributed a solo to one of the songs?

Damn, I knew I'd get out R&M'd eventually :(

[MYR]

Wasn't that Jim Morrison?






joooooke

[Darkness]

As long as we're on the topic: Al Pitrelli, Criss Oliva, Chris Caffery, Joe Satriani, Wojtek Lisicki, Erik Ravin...
Let's not forget the mighty Jeff Loomis. :thumb:

[jane]

Ahahaha, that has nothing to do with music you idiot.
The answer was easy : Alice cooper!
(and it has something to do with music)

[Steerpike]

Rep to whoever can answer my question.

[Mazeppa]

Michael Denner? Hank Sherman?

[Hep Kat]

Rep to whoever can answer my question.

Um...Andy Larocque?


/has no clue

[PrimalBreath]

Andy LaRoque? (spelling)

God Damnit Dan!

[Steerpike]

Good guess, both of you.

[jane]

This jane person is hilarious, trying to drop names and seem smart. All I have to say is this:

I am smarter in EVERYTHING than you will ever be.

I know much more about music than you do.

I am a better musician.

Sum 41 is made up of great musicians.

Don't try arguing with me over this.
Well, super stuff .You knowloedge is not so super.

[Lord Abortion]

Um...Andy Larocque?


/has no clue
Well done.

[Hep Kat]

Good guess, both of you.

Well, I've heard of King Diamond, but you kind of lost me with the other band, so I took a guess.

Well, super stuff .You knowloedge is not so super.

Wait, what?



PS: Yeah, it is.

[Steerpike]

Well, super stuff .You knowloedge is not so super.

Neither is yours. Jeeze, you couldn't answer my question.

Alright, something easier...

How many projects is Jon Oliva involved in?