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perriwinkle
07-24-2006, 10:37 PM
They liked Master of Puppets and Orion, but not a whole lot else. Maybe some Sacred Reich? Their complaints are that heavy metal takes itself too seriously, and that's why they can't appreciate it. I do see what they mean in a sense but even if sometimes I think it's a little bit cheesy I can still rock out to it and appreciate the music for what it is.

For example, I sent Hangar 18 and they thought it was boring. What??? :confused: I was thinking about trying Wake Up Dead but if they didn't like Hangar 18 then I figured it might not be worth it to try Wake Up Dead.

There are so many other great metal bands though, that I wouldn't be able to think of. Think really creative songs, cool time signatures, rhythm changes, really dynamic songs (if it doesn't change they'll get bored and I understand, I don't like songs that repeat themselves too much in any genre either).

There's no reason they shouldn't be able to see the genious in metal, to appreciate the force in the music, I just don't know what it'll take for them to see it.

Txus
07-24-2006, 10:39 PM
Iron Maiden - Fear Of The Dark \m/

A classic.

thegrimjester90
07-24-2006, 10:42 PM
Get 'em to try some Rhapsody, Sonata Arctica, and DragonForce.

Chu
07-24-2006, 10:42 PM
Maybe they didn't like Mustaine's voice? :p

Should try some Megadeth instrumentals, especially Into The Lungs of Hell, so good.

i am the robots
07-24-2006, 10:43 PM
Try sending them different stuff from different genres, and be like, "Metal is quite possibly the broadest genre there is."

Like Abyssal Creation by Through The Eyes Of The Dead, then Swallowed by the Moon by November's Doom, then The Endless Feed by Dark Tranquillity, then maybe some Maiden or something, then som Sargeist idk.

Trivium616
07-24-2006, 10:43 PM
Maybe try Trivium? Everyone seems to like them now. They don't exactly represent metal entirely though, but they'll get a some-what decent picture of what it's all about. And Txus, I'm likeing the Agalloch in your avatar ;)

thegrimjester90
07-24-2006, 10:47 PM
When converting people to the Dark side start out with Power Metal. It's IMO one of the most accessible of the Metal sub-genres. Then give 'em some Thrash or Melodic Death, and if you think they can handle it introduce them to the more extreme sub-genres like Grind and Death.

heavy metal kid
07-24-2006, 10:51 PM
My advice: Do not convert them

But, try to fill them with Power Metal, most of the guys I know that don't like metal, listen to some Power Metal, maybe because is to soft and cheesy.

Alternative rock is another good option.

Steerpike
07-24-2006, 10:53 PM
Seconded on starting out with power metal.

I would start with some Edguy. They have a great, free-wheeling style and a lot of diversity to their songwriting. Hellfire Club is a great album to start with.

Double You Awful
07-24-2006, 10:56 PM
Get 'em to try some Rhapsody, Sonata Arctica, and DragonForce.

I second this.

ninjaedit: err third.

perriwinkle
07-24-2006, 10:58 PM
They'll hate power metal. To tell you guys the truth, I don't really like it either, I think it's pretty cheesy. I'm sorry. I'm SORRY! :upset: but they're not going to dig it either.

To heavy metal kid: they're already into alternative rock. We're all into like everything that is good in music, but they just haven't learned to see the good in metal. I'll check out all the songs that Eleventeen mentioned and see if anything strikes me, thanks for those.

I'll definitely try and get em some Maiden because they are the **** and it can't be denied. Also, something hit me while in the shower- Opeth! Who with an open mind cannot appreciate Opeth? I'll show them To Bid You Farewell. Or maybe another? Suggestions!

GenuineImitation
07-24-2006, 11:01 PM
You cant go wrong with the basics. Try Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Pantera, Metallica and Slayer.

Also try some Dream Theater, Nevermore, Symphony X, Danzig, In Flames and Children of Bodom.

Try the bands with harsh vocals after you spark an interest with the other bands.

thegrimjester90
07-24-2006, 11:03 PM
The cheesiness of Power Metal is what makes it so loveable.

Edit: to Perriwinkle

GenuineImitation
07-24-2006, 11:05 PM
The cheesiness of Power Metal is what makes it so loveable.

Edit: to Perriwinkle


Yeah, but ithe lyrical content can also be a turn off to some people.

rata
07-24-2006, 11:06 PM
they know how great metal is, they just probably dont like metal. like Jazz for example, its a great genre but not everybody listens to Jazz.

heavy metal kid is right. try not to convert them. but if you really want to then try Iron Maiden... i got all of my friends who dont like metal singing to "Number of the beast"...

GenuineImitation
07-24-2006, 11:10 PM
they know how great metal is, they just probably dont like metal. like Jazz for example, its a great genre but not everybody listens to Jazz.

heavy metal kid is right. try not to convert them. but if you really want to then try Iron Maiden... i got all of my friends who dont like metal singing to "Number of the beast"...


I agree. Trying to convert them will only turn them off. If you play the music when they are around, it may eventually grow on them.

El_Goodo
07-24-2006, 11:11 PM
Did you give them Symphany Of Destruction? Or anything else off of Countdown To Extinction? Why don't you try using metal bands more accesible albums rather than tracks you like.

Invicta_Veritas
07-25-2006, 01:28 AM
Here's what you do. You take a screwdriver, press it to thier temples, and say they will like it or the screwdriver is going in.


If that doesn't work, castrate them.

DreamWorld
07-25-2006, 01:31 AM
Show them some Kalmah or Dark Tranquility.

Sleeper
07-25-2006, 01:31 AM
You don't need to get anyone to appreciate any kind of music, it's like someone trying to get me to appreciate happy hardcore.

DreamWorld
07-25-2006, 01:34 AM
You don't need to get anyone to appreciate any kind of music, it's like someone trying to get me to appreciate happy hardcore.

happy hardcore? :confused:

Could you name some good happy hardcore bands I could check out? Most of the hardcore I've listened to is really pissed off and aggressive.

Invicta_Veritas
07-25-2006, 01:34 AM
You don't need to get anyone to appreciate any kind of music, it's like someone trying to get me to appreciate happy hardcore.

What the hell? Is that like the undepressing version of emo or something? :lol:

Sleeper
07-25-2006, 01:35 AM
It's a form of dance music, which is really fast and usually has a female singing. In other words, like DDR music.

Endless Obsession
07-25-2006, 01:35 AM
Start them off with clean vocaled metal because I have learned that so many people are turned off by harsh vocals. Then if they like it they like it, and will do more to get into more bands, but if they dont then eff it its not worth your time.

The first metal band I heard was metallica, and i got all into metallica, megadeth, slayer, pantera etc. and then after a while i got into harsh vocals like lamb of god, killswitch, as i lay dying, god forbid, between the buried and me, that kind of stuff.

clown_phobia
07-25-2006, 05:27 AM
If they don't like it, they don't like it. Usually the music you like the most is the one you discover yourself, and means something to you.

TheOpethAffinity
07-25-2006, 05:28 AM
GET SOME OLDER IN FLAMeS AND THEY WILL BE HOOKED FOREVER

Meatplow
07-25-2006, 05:38 AM
Yeah i would just let them be. People tend to be set in their ways, as i am guessing you are as well. Try and see what happens when people try to force a change in your taste in music.

My friends who didn't like metal all got into it through Metallica.

trainwreck orchestra
07-25-2006, 05:49 AM
GET NEW FRIENDS......................only jokin lol

i find showing people videos of metal bands as well as just the audio playing helps them to appreciate metal more for what it is - a serious music genre where a vast majority of artists in the genre are extremely talented musiceans and songwriters.

dont show them any Cannibal Corpse or Dying Fetus or Decrepit Birth to begin with cos they just wont get it if they are completely new to metal. Death metal is like the final genre after you have moved through the other types of metal. its the most extreme and sometimes the hardest to appreciate

:smoke:

Sleeper
07-25-2006, 05:55 AM
Death metal is like the final genre after you have moved through the other types of metal. its the most extreme and sometimes the hardest to appreciate

It wasn't for me, I'm pretty sure i was the only kid in 6th grade with Tomb of the Mutilated in his cd player. Even though i've found much better metal over the years.

wrathchild88
07-25-2006, 05:56 AM
Metal Church should do the trick.

Tommi Hendrix
07-25-2006, 05:59 AM
Do NOT show them Dragonforce!
Cause when they hear those lyrics they´ll make fun even more.

Dragon_Prince
07-25-2006, 06:02 AM
I am not really a metallover but I do love some good metal at times ...
MEtallica is a good one
Dream Theater too
and I sometimes like some cheesy metal like Hammerfall
And Iron Maiden is also nice sometimes

The rest I don't like that much:p

eug009
07-25-2006, 06:05 AM
Go for some Prog like Riverside, Dream Theater etc. and some metal bands with clean vocals like Nevermore

Stoic
07-25-2006, 06:44 AM
If they're not already curious about the genre the chances are they wont bother to pay attention to the songs you give them. Same will happen if they dont have a rock background. They simply wont care.

Now, if they're indeed curious about metal I would avoid giving them the big names (iron maiden, metallica, black sabbath etc etc). On the other hand, I would pick catchy songs by more obscure (for the metal beginner at least) bands, like:

Slough Feg - Gene-ocide
Skyclad - Spinning Jenny
Moonspell - Alma Mater
Nevermore - Born
Symphony X - Of Sins and Shadows
Pain of Salvation - Chain Sling
Blind Guardian - Mirror Mirror

Prince Charming
07-25-2006, 06:47 AM
Do NOT show them Dragonforce!
Cause when they hear those lyrics they´ll make fun even more.
AND WE WILL FLYLLLLLYYYYYYYY ON THE DRAGON *insert 250bpm shred* WE WILLLLL FLLYYYYYY THROUGH THE VALLLLLLY, ON OUR PET DRAGONS, *insert insane soloing for twenty minutes* AND WE REALLLLLLLY MEAN IT< WE FLY ON DRAGONS WHO USE FORCE YAY

^^ lol

Dave de Sylvia
07-25-2006, 06:49 AM
Glam

Prince Charming
07-25-2006, 06:50 AM
Glam
I don't think that'll get someone into metal.

Maybe start with something softer, like Katatonia?

Dave de Sylvia
07-25-2006, 06:51 AM
The only people who don't like glam are people who like crap like Katatonia.

Stoic
07-25-2006, 06:54 AM
Depends on their background really. Before I started listening to metal I remember myself looking for extreme sounding music. If you gave me Katatonia back then, I would say "eeeww, gay!" :p

Metaljonus
07-25-2006, 06:56 AM
If they don't like it, they don't like it man get over it.

Mother
07-25-2006, 07:02 AM
what are your friends listening to now,

Stoic
07-25-2006, 07:11 AM
If they don't like it, they don't like it man get over it.

it's not that easy. I mean, I once got really pissed at some friends of mine. I gave them a well refined compilation (among others including progressive rock/metal) and explained them that all the common stereotypes about metal are wrong. A few weeks later, I referred to metal as a form of art only to receive comments like: "Haha, yeah right, screaming junkies and songs that sound all the same!!!" This hurt my feelings, mainly because they kept thinking the same even after they actually heard some proper tunes. Damn people :angry:

rhcp pman
07-25-2006, 08:19 AM
AND WE WILL FLYLLLLLYYYYYYYY ON THE DRAGON *insert 250bpm shred* WE WILLLLL FLLYYYYYY THROUGH THE VALLLLLLY, ON OUR PET DRAGONS, *insert insane soloing for twenty minutes* AND WE REALLLLLLLY MEAN IT< WE FLY ON DRAGONS WHO USE FORCE YAY

^^ lol
I lol'd. That was a great impression, even if I like Dragonforce.

it's not that easy. I mean, I once got really pissed at some friends of mine. I gave them a well refined compilation (among others including progressive rock/metal) and explained them that all the common stereotypes about metal are wrong. A few weeks later, I referred to metal as a form of art only to receive comments like: "Haha, yeah right, screaming junkies and songs that sound all the same!!!" This hurt my feelings, mainly because they kept thinking the same even after they actually heard some proper tunes. Damn people
Don't worry, I know what you mean. You start to lose faith in mankind :).

ATM
07-25-2006, 09:03 AM
Well, first I loved Black Sabbath and then I got into Opeth, so maybe introduce them to those bands.

Apocalyptic Raids
07-25-2006, 09:37 AM
Just give them some Maiden.

penelope weird hands
07-25-2006, 09:59 AM
TS, I empathise.
It's fvcking hard to get good mates into a certain genre - especially if they have great taste and an open mind, but still say they don't get into it.

I've showed my friends numerous bands ... all different songs and genres to no avail. :/
They're decent enough to listen and not just go "LOL SOUNDS LIKE WOLFMAN DRUGZ0R LOL!1!!1", but there's just something in their way of enjoying it..

My suggestion is, after a number of 'conversion' tries+failures, just leave it and maybe one day in the near future they'll ask you to broaden their sound horizons and you can try again.
I think new music still sometimes needs a time and place where it finds you(or your friends or whoever) rather than vice versa.

Hopefully, there will be a time when they will connect with Metal.
GL! :thumb:

Kreator2112
07-25-2006, 10:39 AM
Maybe your friends will listen to whatever type of music they prefer. You should stop hassling them to change their preference of music.

FTR, Megadeth is boring.

Moses
07-25-2006, 10:42 AM
GET NEW FRIENDS......................only jokin lol

i find showing people videos of metal bands as well as just the audio playing helps them to appreciate metal more for what it is - a serious music genre where a vast majority of artists in the genre are extremely talented musiceans and songwriters.
Not really.

To the threadstarter, try Opeth, In Flames and to show them a band that doesn't take themselves too seriously, maybe some Strapping Young Lad?

Try moshing with them or better yet take them to a show. Pretty much everyone I know that likes metal, loved it after seeing a metal show.

Neoteric
07-25-2006, 11:00 AM
If they aren't into metal then you can't force them dude.

Apocalyptic Raids
07-25-2006, 11:24 AM
If they aren't into metal then you can't force them dude.
I agree, it's not worth the effort.

Shadows Within
07-25-2006, 11:49 AM
Start them off with clean vocaled metal
When you said clean that made me think Into Eternity, not only will hte probally like the vocals but they'll probally love the guitar stuff. and some of there songs are really catchy like Spiralling Into Depression.

Invicta_Veritas
07-25-2006, 12:52 PM
On a more serious non-screwdriver approach, I agree with starting with more normal, clean vocaled metal, general bands like Pantera, Godsmack, etc. think of what your gateway bands were. I started off with metallica, Pantera, godsmack, etc, and got into nu metal. That lead me to metalcore and hardcore, with brought me to death metal, which got me into black metal, and now I just suck.


Definite no on the power metal. I'm a metal fan and I hate most PM, so a non-metal fan would be like WTF?

halfdeadhippo
07-25-2006, 12:56 PM
You'd said that they don't like how metal bands take themselves so seriously (which, I've found is pretty rare, but the music doesn't really convey that), so maybe you should let them hear some Strapping Young Lad or especially Devin Townsend's solo stuff. Devin's the kind of guy who lets his sense of humor show in his music.

IheartSP
07-25-2006, 12:58 PM
Some people just don't like Metal and you have to face that, even if it is amazingly epic and in depth.

Jeremy I hate Dragonforce too and I 100% agree with your impression of them, I've been saying that for almost a year now slightly variated.

Intro lead riff, basic powerchord/palm mute verse riff in minor, prechorus a little more upbeat, chorus in major, repeat intro-chorus, crazy wank solo consisting of Herman Li jerking off his guitar and penis simultaneously, repeat intro-chorus.

Take that, highlight, copy, press paste 12 times, and theres a Dragonforce album!

Prince Charming
07-25-2006, 01:01 PM
On a more serious non-screwdriver approach, I agree with starting with more normal, clean vocaled metal, general bands like Pantera, Godsmack, etc. think of what your gateway bands were. I started off with metallica, Pantera, godsmack, etc, and got into nu metal. That lead me to metalcore and hardcore, with brought me to death metal, which got me into black metal, and now I just suck.

Godsmack? lolol. You were just bashing them the other day. Pantera's vox are hard to withstand. They're reallllly harsh, in a bad way.

Definite no on the power metal. I'm a metal fan and I hate most PM, so a non-metal fan would be like WTF?

Power Metal would be good. It's not to forceful or heavy.

As said above, Into Eternity would be an excellent route.

As for you sir. You say you suck? You win! :p :chug:

IheartSP
07-25-2006, 01:04 PM
From personal experience Metallica got me into Metal and that transitioned into more melodic things such as Bodom, Maiden, and Iced Earth.

Jude
07-25-2006, 01:06 PM
God damn, people have different tastes. Not everyone LIKES uber heavy shredful downtuned riffing. Get used to it.

Stoic
07-25-2006, 01:08 PM
Personally, I wouldnt want to make my friends like it more than actually respect it...

Invicta_Veritas
07-25-2006, 01:10 PM
Power Metal would be good. It's not to forceful or heavy.

As said above, Into Eternity would be an excellent route.

As for you sir. You say you suck? You win! :p :chug:

Yea, but power metal is largely vocally annoying and cheesy...a non-metal fan might get turned away by it. I dunno, I guess some Primal Fear might work...

yes, I do suck...Apparantly the local radio station is calling me a " black metal bastard" and talking about decapitated babies...funny, huh?

Shadows Within
07-25-2006, 01:28 PM
Yea, but power metal is largely vocally annoying and cheesy...a non-metal fan might get turned away by it. I dunno, I guess some Primal Fear might work...
Lol when I was a non-metal fan the first thing I went to was clean vocals I couldn't stand growling, screaming etc.

In fact half the bands I listen to now have clean vocals, Wintersun, COB, Norther, Kalmah and Catamenia and a couple others are the only screming bands I like, I still can't get into growling.

i am the robots
07-25-2006, 02:01 PM
Well then, you must be a sissy.

Silent Death
07-25-2006, 02:44 PM
Maybe Opeth? They are very diverse, but a lot of their songs are quite long, and some people can get bored with them. I don't know how, but I have seen it.

Jude
07-25-2006, 03:36 PM
Maybe Opeth? They are very diverse, but a lot of their songs are quite long, and some people can get bored with them. I don't know how, but I have seen it.
If Opeth can't get you into metal, nothing can.

They didn't get me into metal btw.

A Spoonful Supreme
07-25-2006, 03:46 PM
Maybe your friends just don't like metal :(.

Luc214
07-25-2006, 04:06 PM
Lamb of God got me into metal.

Play them Ashes Of The Wake.

Luc214
07-25-2006, 04:08 PM
Yea, but power metal is largely vocally annoying and cheesy...a non-metal fan might get turned away by it. I dunno, I guess some Primal Fear might work...

yes, I do suck...Apparantly the local radio station is calling me a " black metal bastard" and talking about decapitated babies...funny, huh?

Play them Blind Guardian. How could anyone not like Blind Guardian??

sjada
07-25-2006, 04:16 PM
Depends on what they listen to now, but I would start by getting them to listen to some of the bands that influenced or pioneered metal. For example, Led Zeppelin and Kiss aren't metal, but their styles went into a lot of metal bands going into the 80s and it might help them to transition into it. When I started listening to music it was all Led Zeppelin or Aerosmith and as I got used to similar bands who were a bit heavier, I slowly started listening toMegadeth and Iron Maiden and the like.

Stoic
07-25-2006, 04:22 PM
Play them Blind Guardian. How could anyone not like Blind Guardian??

EXACTLY! There are some metal bands/songs you (metaller or not) just CANT go wrong with...

A Spoonful Supreme
07-25-2006, 04:24 PM
EXACTLY! There are some metal bands/songs you (metaller or not) just CANT go wrong with...
Yeah, there are.

Permanent Solution
07-25-2006, 04:24 PM
Lamb of God got me into metal.

Play them Ashes Of The Wake.
If someone had told me that all metal sounded like them I'd have never listened to metal again.

Take them to an Iron Maiden concert to get them into metal.

Anglachel
07-25-2006, 04:33 PM
When I first listened to metal a lot I was shown Opeth.

Don't know if that'll work with your friends though...

Stoic
07-25-2006, 04:33 PM
Take them to an Iron Maiden concert to get them into metal.

A concert...This is an excellent idea. Maybe they would be convinced if they experienced the energy and passion first hand.

A Spoonful Supreme
07-25-2006, 04:56 PM
A concert...This is an excellent idea. Maybe they would be convinced if they experienced the energy and passion first hand.
Hehe.

Stoic
07-25-2006, 05:33 PM
what? :(

Hedgedive
07-25-2006, 05:41 PM
There's no reason they shouldn't be able to see the genious in metal, to appreciate the force in the music, I just don't know what it'll take for them to see it.

Music is subjective. Maybe for them, there is no genius in metal. If you like it, that's great. But the worst way to try and get someone to like something is to shove it down their throats.

heavy metal kid
07-25-2006, 05:42 PM
Fill their ears with Polka, then put some Metal. They would be more than happy with metal.

Shadius
07-25-2006, 05:43 PM
it obviously depends what type of music, or what bands specifically your friends are into.

if they like some hard rock then get them into a softer metal band with hard rock influence. if they quite like some rock music with guitar solos in it, go for a band like iron maiden.

if they like some rock music with chugga chugga then go for a gateway thrash band.

if they like good singing, find a band with good singing, if they like good guitar find one with good guitar.

You can't recommend them just anything, powermetal, metallica, opeth, etc. arn't necesserally going to get them into metal if their tastes arn't possibly going to be enticed by the material those bands have. If your friends don't care about guitar/piano/whatever and don't like heavy music much then just don't bother. find them some pop-metal, if anything.

Xerxes
07-25-2006, 05:43 PM
You don't GET them to appreciate it, they sort of have to on their own.

Stoic
07-25-2006, 05:45 PM
Fill their ears with Polka, then put some Metal. They would be more than happy with metal.

Unless he puts them Finntroll :D

You don't GET them to appreciate it, they sort of have to on their own.

I agree on that. Some people are meant to be metalheads (\m/) and some are not.

Hedgedive
07-25-2006, 05:47 PM
I've never been able to fully get into metal. I like a few of the more hard-rock influenced bands (Iron Maiden for instance), but there's little someone could do to change that.

You might show me a band I like, but it's really just not for me.

Shadius
07-25-2006, 05:48 PM
Unless he puts them Finntroll :D



I agree on that. Some people are meant to be metalheads (\m/) and some are not.

True. Although I don't consider myself a metalhead but Opeth and Iron Maiden are two of my favourite bands. I also love In Flames and Dark Tranquility, among a couple of other assorted metal bands/songs.

But I suppose metal only makes up a fraction of my musical listenings. Anyone can appreciate a metal band/song or two if they want to, unless they're retarded and can't handle anything beyond ultra processed bubblegum pop.

Dave de Sylvia
07-25-2006, 07:40 PM
G.L.A.M.!

Freezing Moon
07-25-2006, 11:11 PM
Play them some proper old-school metal and if they don't like it there is no hope for them. Trying to get them into it through a bunch of flowery pussified crap isn't the way to do it, in my oh so humble opinion.

heavy metal kid
07-25-2006, 11:14 PM
G.L.A.M.!

I doubt it.

Glam could maybe convert them into Hard Rock, maybe some Alternative.

IheartSP
07-25-2006, 11:30 PM
Play them some proper old-school metal and if they don't like it there is no hope for them. Trying to get them into it through a bunch of flowery pussified crap isn't the way to do it, in my oh so humble opinion.
Is that how you see Power Metal?

Freezing Moon
07-25-2006, 11:33 PM
Is that how you see Power Metal?
No, not really. There's lots of cool old-school power metal like Jag Panzer and Savatage, but yes, that's how I see a good amount of the newer stuff (Not to say that it's all bad).

Scuba_Steve
07-25-2006, 11:36 PM
I think we should all just be cool with other people's tastes.

I mean, you showed them, they didn't like it...no need to press the issue.


This is like music rape.

Permanent Solution
07-25-2006, 11:36 PM
Don't do this. If I'd gone to a metal concert not liking metal beforehand I would have run away as fast as possible. I'm not exactly the world's biggest metalhead, but taking someone to a concert without them liking the music has a very good chance of putting them off the genre altogether.

it obviously depends what type of music, or what bands specifically your friends are into.

Eh, but that's why I said Iron Maiden. I took a bunch of friends to a Maiden show a few years ago, and none knew the music or were familiar with it at all. Motorhead and Dio (openers) were entertaining for them, but once Maiden was on, they just got real into it and loved it. Over half of them got at least a few Maiden CDs later on.

heavy metal kid
07-25-2006, 11:38 PM
I think we should all just be cool with other people's tastes.
I mean, you showed them, they didn't like it...no need to press the issue.
This is like music rape.

Yeah, that's why I said in the beggining of the thread, do not convert them into metal.

Sometimes' better to be the only one who listens to Metal.

TMA
07-25-2006, 11:46 PM
I don't know man. I say you just let people have their own opinions on music and try not to change it. I mean, they're still your friends, even if they are big metalheads, right? You still enjoy it even if they dont, right?
If they say things about it that you disagree with, either disagree vocally by explaining your side of it, or just shrug it off and don't dive into the conversation. That's just my opinion on it. Everybody has their own opinions on music and everything... I think we'd all be bad people if we tried to change somebody else's.

smirnoff ice god
07-26-2006, 12:03 AM
children Of Bodom!

Scuba_Steve
07-26-2006, 12:05 AM
children Of Bodom!


yeah, cause if I never heard much metal a swedish guy singing like he has strep would turn me on to it.

smirnoff ice god
07-26-2006, 12:06 AM
yeah, cause if I never heard much metal a swedish guy singing like he has strep would turn me on to it.did for me

IheartSP
07-26-2006, 12:11 AM
Finnish...

Bodom was the first real Metal I had heard and I HATED it. A few months later I got into Metallica and afte rlistening to nothing but Metallica for 2 months I was getting sick of it and I randomly had the riff from Kissing the Shadows stuck in my head. I went back and listened to it (that and Bed of Razors being the only songs I had) as a guilty pleasure for a day or two before I realized I shouldn't feel guilty because I really really liked it. After that I downloaded a crapload of Bodom and from then on I've been a Metalhead.

smirnoff ice god
07-26-2006, 12:17 AM
not only that but alexi can basically **** almost every metal guitarist outtheir on guitar

IheartSP
07-26-2006, 12:22 AM
not only that but alexi can basically **** almost every metal guitarist outtheir on guitar
That's not true at all. He's good but in the Metal world he's only average. Listen to some Jari Maenpaa from Wintersun is far better, as is Timmo Tolkki from Stratovarius. There are plenty of guitarists that could school Alexi.

Kreator2112
07-26-2006, 12:25 AM
G.L.A.M.!

Gay Los Angeles Metal?

If you're so serious about turning your friends around to metal, give them some Opeth. Orchid is what really brought me into the underground metal world.

Invicta_Veritas
07-26-2006, 12:27 AM
Lol when I was a non-metal fan the first thing I went to was clean vocals I couldn't stand growling, screaming etc.

In fact half the bands I listen to now have clean vocals, Wintersun, COB, Norther, Kalmah and Catamenia and a couple others are the only screming bands I like, I still can't get into growling.

I didn't say clean vocals were bad, i just said PM style clean vox might be too annoying for someone just getting into metal...

smirnoff ice god
07-26-2006, 12:27 AM
That's not true at all. He's good but in the Metal world he's only average. Listen to some Jari Maenpaa from Wintersun is far better, as is Timmo Tolkki from Stratovarius. There are plenty of guitarists that could school Alexi.they may be better but seriously have you heard a metal solo as catchy as a bodom solo theyre so ****ing catchy and he makes such kickass lead lines his melodic fastness jsut blows all teh techniqal bitchs away

IheartSP
07-26-2006, 12:39 AM
they may be better but seriously have you heard a metal solo as catchy as a bodom solo theyre so ****ing catchy and he makes such kickass lead lines his melodic fastness jsut blows all teh techniqal bitchs away
Yeah cause Jari is such a "technical bitch" :lol:. You act like he's Yngwie or something, have you ever actually heard Wintersun?

Moses
07-26-2006, 12:44 AM
I love Wintersun's use of synth. It's actually the reason I like them the most.

eug009
07-26-2006, 03:26 AM
Yeh, all the insturments just work out perfectly

Benzum
07-26-2006, 04:50 AM
Hanger 18 is boring, though

Show them some Kalmah or Dark Tranquility

Yes, do this...

i am the robots
07-26-2006, 06:29 AM
Yes, do this...
:chug:

Benzum
07-26-2006, 06:32 AM
:chug:

Jude
07-26-2006, 10:38 AM
yeah, cause if I never heard much metal a swedish guy singing like he has strep would turn me on to it.
:lol: repped

Shadius
07-26-2006, 12:12 PM
Maiden are probably the exception to the rule, I guess...even people who don't like them seem to think that they're great live (and rightly so), but most other metal bands probably wouldn't really have that sort of effect. Even so, I still think it's pretty risky spending that much money on a gig for people who simply don't have any idea whether or not they're going to like the music. Just giving them a burnt CD or two beforehand wouldn't exactly be difficult or anything...

I enjoy shows about 100 times more if I know the songs. I find it harder to enjoy myself if I don't know any of the music, if I enjoy it as i'm there, I'm there to listen and soak up the atmosphere, but really, i enjoy myself the most when I can concentrate less and just sing along to the songs and jump around.

Jude
07-26-2006, 01:03 PM
I enjoy shows about 100 times more if I know the songs. I find it harder to enjoy myself if I don't know any of the music, if I enjoy it as i'm there, I'm there to listen and soak up the atmosphere, but really, i enjoy myself the most when I can concentrate less and just sing along to the songs and jump around.
True.

But more important is the fact that if you take someone who isn't into metal to a metal show, all they're going to see is blasting noise and a couple hundred stinky, shaggy, sweaty weirdos jumping around like idiots in front of the stage.

rata
07-26-2006, 11:03 PM
forcing them to listen to metal might get them pissed off of you and you loose them ... its up to you ... even if their into pop music you should respect theirs and theyll respect yours and everybody will get along...

F**k that... get new friends who listens to metal .:naughty: :p

RiceMonster
07-26-2006, 11:33 PM
forcing them to listen to metal might get them pissed off of you and you loose them ... its up to you ... even if their into pop music you should respect theirs and theyll respect yours and everybody will get along...

F**k that... get new friends who listens to metal .:naughty: :p
Exactly. Forcing people into music is useless. The more you force it on them, the more they hate it. If they don't like your music, just don't discuss music with them, and don't expect them to come to concerts with you. Simple as that.

rata
07-28-2006, 12:06 AM
True.

But more important is the fact that if you take someone who isn't into metal to a metal show, all they're going to see is blasting noise and a couple hundred stinky, shaggy, sweaty weirdos jumping around like idiots in front of the stage.


i once brought this conservative chick with me to a Hedpe concert. for a second i thought she was enjoying the show till Hedpe played "waiting to die" all of a sudden she just wants to leave the place:lol: too bad, i was planning to take her to a slayer concert a week after...

Kreator2112
07-28-2006, 12:08 AM
why did you bump this?

run don't walk
07-28-2006, 12:37 AM
Do NOT show them Dragonforce!
Cause when they hear those lyrics they´ll make fun even more.
^Truest post yet.

I tried to show my friend (who listens to hardcore) some Dragonforce to try to get him into metal and the whole time he was laughing and going WTF is this?

Scuba_Steve
07-28-2006, 12:39 AM
I tried to show my friend (who listens to hardcore) some Dragonforce to try to get him into metal and the whole time he was laughing and going WTF is this?


I tried to show my friend who listened to other power metal dragonforce and he had much the same reaction.


NOW LET THIS FRED DYE!

Amit
07-28-2006, 12:43 AM
you can give some hints and suggestions

but don't be that annoying overbearing guy who tries too hard

Dave de Sylvia
07-28-2006, 02:13 AM
Experience talking right there.

yadong
07-28-2006, 08:08 AM
give them some iced earth

edit. that got me into metal

jane
07-28-2006, 08:21 AM
give them Symphony X

MrRhodes
07-28-2006, 10:47 AM
Ozzyyyy!! One of which got me into metal as well as Iron Maiden, the 2 greatest metal bands on the earth, imo...

The_Riddler
07-31-2006, 11:49 PM
This has probably been said

You can't have people enjoy the same type of metal you do, there are many different genre's floating around just in the metal category, they have to find music they relate to, and sounds great to them. Start out with a few mainstream bands like Linkin park, who are hard rock and very easy to get into, if they like them, bring them into a harder form of Industrial music or something along those lines if that makes sense. HIM is another alternative if you want someone to like Metal, easy to get into, and if they like it, it might open the door to other and harder bands.

Just my opinion.

Interviewer/surveyer
07-31-2006, 11:55 PM
Yeah, there's nothing worse than a poser-metal kid. "Yeah, Enter Sandman Rules!"

Benzum
08-01-2006, 05:01 AM
Take them to a metal concert, perhaps?

Shadius
08-01-2006, 08:58 AM
lol@stupid responces being repeated over and over

Luc214
08-01-2006, 11:30 AM
This has probably been said

You can't have people enjoy the same type of metal you do, there are many different genre's floating around just in the metal category, they have to find music they relate to, and sounds great to them. Start out with a few mainstream bands like Linkin park, who are hard rock and very easy to get into, if they like them, bring them into a harder form of Industrial music or something along those lines if that makes sense. HIM is another alternative if you want someone to like Metal, easy to get into, and if they like it, it might open the door to other and harder bands.

Just my opinion.

That's a good idea.

I started out with Godsmack and Seether. Then I got into Lamb of God.

LoG opened the door, now I'm really into metal.

lamb_of_goddrummer
08-01-2006, 05:25 PM
Stick with the bread and butter- Ozzy and Pantera

beastman168
08-01-2006, 05:35 PM
Nirvana, this is what got me into Rock period, them and CKY.
also, try avenged sevenfold - waking the fallen

randomthought9
08-01-2006, 05:44 PM
For me it was Metallica, then Slayer, and I sometimes listen to the more extreme stuff, but not that much. I'm more into thrash.

Nepenthe
08-01-2006, 08:28 PM
Or, y'know, you could try not ever letting your friends hear 90% of the bands people have suggested on here. They might have an easier time getting into metal if you follow that advice.

Aw3someman
08-01-2006, 08:53 PM
Start with Metallica, Iron Maiden, or any remotely known new metal band. That's new NOT nu.

lamb_of_goddrummer
08-01-2006, 09:11 PM
Pantera, Metallica, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Sabbath. Hammer all that sh1t into their simple minds. Then if they like that they can move on to the harder stuff.