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Mr_Mud
07-20-2006, 08:17 PM
Hey guys. I am thinking about putting on a Kahler 2415 tremelo system on my bass. I was just wondering if you guys could give me some feedback on this idea. Like if you have a tremelo system on your bass or whatever. I just want some feedback. Thanks.

purple_hazer
07-20-2006, 11:50 PM
les and wooten use kahler sp they cant be bad at all

LambofDeth
07-23-2006, 10:50 AM
I'm considering doing this to my fretless sometime in the futur, only because it's become my fixer bass that i'm going to mod piece be piece; hence the defretting. Kahler seems to be the reknowned name but does anyone know if they come with a floyd rose? Because tremolo's can do a hell of a job with screwing your tuning up usually.

bleeding_fingers
07-23-2006, 08:32 PM
There's no such thing as a Floyd Rose for a bass. The Kahler trem for bass is supposedly self- contained, which means minimal routing. JoeDaddio has a Kahler on his G&L. Ask him.

hellonearth07
07-24-2006, 11:04 AM
ya know what'd be kickass, a bigsby on an acoustic bass guitar. I remember an aruguement over if a bigsby could go on acoustics, and i lost, they say the can on their site

sorry for jacking the post, i just thought i'd throw out the idea

The Forgotten Bassist
07-24-2006, 11:08 AM
SAdly I've only heard them on very expenive basses and they sounded good, but what do you expect.

If you do fire one on you ned to do a review for it so I can decided if I'll put one on as well.

the101er
07-24-2006, 11:38 AM
Sorry to seem rude, but is there really any point in doing it to a fretless? A fretted I can understand, but not a fretless

hellonearth07
07-24-2006, 11:42 AM
Sorry to seem rude, but is there really any point in doing it to a fretless? A fretted I can understand, but not a fretless

i was kinda thinking the same, but if the guy wants it on a fretless, no point in stopping him right?

the101er
07-24-2006, 11:48 AM
Not at all, he can do what he likes, I just want to see if I can save him a couple hundred dollars on something he could simply do with his fingers.

HOE: Please don't take my post as rudeness :p

hellonearth07
07-24-2006, 11:52 AM
Not at all, he can do what he likes, I just want to see if I can save him a couple hundred dollars on something he could simply do with his fingers.

HOE: Please don't take my post as rudeness :p

Believe me i know where you're coming from 100% Saving money is definately a good thing:thumb:

lobsterjohnson
07-26-2006, 11:27 PM
i would like to see a bigsby style trem fo bass
one of the screww on no routing types

stranker
07-27-2006, 11:54 AM
Believe me i know where you're coming from 100% Saving money is definately a good thing:thumb:
defretting an instrument only takes about 50-60 bucks dude...
EDIT:if you do it yourself

the101er
07-27-2006, 12:14 PM
We're talking about attaching a vibrato unit to a fretless, which in my opinion in basically an pointless waste of alot money for something you can do with you fingers (on a fretless)

But he's welcome to do it...

hellonearth07
07-27-2006, 02:13 PM
defretting an instrument only takes about 50-60 bucks dude...
EDIT:if you do it yourself

i defretted a bass for about $15 usd.... How could you put 50-60 bucks into a DIY defretting? maybe if you bought an insanely huge thing of poly to finish it with.

so what was the point of your post? i mean i was agreeing with someone earlier about the need for a trem on a fretless, and only said saving money's good. IE that if you have a fretless you can pull off the same effect as you could if you had a trem on there, at least for a period of time.

A fretless with a trem is pointless and you could save money if you were thinking about puttin a trem on a fretless. Thats all i said

stranker
07-27-2006, 02:49 PM
i defretted a bass for about $15 usd.... How could you put 50-60 bucks into a DIY defretting? maybe if you bought an insanely huge thing of poly to finish it with.

so what was the point of your post? i mean i was agreeing with someone earlier about the need for a trem on a fretless, and only said saving money's good. IE that if you have a fretless you can pull off the same effect as you could if you had a trem on there, at least for a period of time.

A fretless with a trem is pointless and you could save money if you were thinking about puttin a trem on a fretless. Thats all i said
well, the epoxy, fret pullers, compound radius sanding block, and sandpaper all added up to about 50 bucks for me
cause the fret pullers cost 25 bucks:smash:
rediculous, isn't it?

the101er
07-27-2006, 03:36 PM
No, it's not rediculous at all. It's just as effective to use a soldering iron and screwdriver to remove the frets (tools which most guitarists/bassists should have), sandpaper for cleaning up where the frets have been, and a piece of wood you can use as a radius block (I made mine to the radius I needed), and some woodfiller

Cost me about... £8, wich I guess is somewhere around $14

stranker
07-27-2006, 04:41 PM
No, it's not rediculous at all. It's just as effective to use a soldering iron and screwdriver to remove the frets (tools which most guitarists/bassists should have), sandpaper for cleaning up where the frets have been, and a piece of wood you can use as a radius block (I made mine to the radius I needed), and some woodfiller

Cost me about... £8, wich I guess is somewhere around $14
yeah about. wouldn't a screwdriver tear up the fretboard???

the101er
07-27-2006, 04:46 PM
Nope. You heat up the fretwire so the glue holding it beneath melts, then hook the screwdriver under the fretwire on the side of the board and slowly prize it up, works a treat

Peg Dizzler
07-27-2006, 06:39 PM
Not all frets are glued in. In fact.. most aren't...

I'm with Stranker on this one though, if I wanted it to look decent at all, I'd use proper tools. No offense, but I definitely wouldn't use a screwdriver, unless you really don't care about the looks of the fretboard or something.

LambofDeth
07-28-2006, 12:31 AM
Ok so i'm NOT going to put tremelo in a fretless. I didn't give it much though. HOWEVER, saying it is completely useless is wrong, maybe i'm so good that i play everything in harmonics (some artificial), and thus a tremolo would be good for bending notes without bending the neck.
Don't sweat it.

the101er
07-28-2006, 07:33 AM
Not all frets are glued in. In fact.. most aren't...

I'm with Stranker on this one though, if I wanted it to look decent at all, I'd use proper tools. No offense, but I definitely wouldn't use a screwdriver, unless you really don't care about the looks of the fretboard or something.

^^Fretboard looks fine, but no reason not to use proper tools like you guys, I just have a fairly good looking fretless without having to spend much money on it:thumb:

stranker
07-28-2006, 12:07 PM
^^Fretboard looks fine, but no reason not to use proper tools like you guys, I just have a fairly good looking fretless without having to spend much money on it:thumb:
heh, you're probably actually a bassist
i'm a guitarist trying to make a fretless guitar

hellonearth07
07-28-2006, 03:07 PM
Not all frets are glued in. In fact.. most aren't...

I'm with Stranker on this one though, if I wanted it to look decent at all, I'd use proper tools. No offense, but I definitely wouldn't use a screwdriver, unless you really don't care about the looks of the fretboard or something.

i used a putty knife, and didnt really get any chips at all. The fret pullers are just like a modified pair of pliers that can get in underneath frets. IMO putty knives work just as well.

stranker
07-28-2006, 05:38 PM
i used a putty knife, and didnt really get any chips at all. The fret pullers are just like a modified pair of pliers that can get in underneath frets. IMO putty knives work just as well.
hm. dude i never even knew a putty knife existed