tubes... valves... stuff...

[edgebass5]

I've often been curious to know why in the UK tubes are called valves, and in the US valves are called tubes. I often hear of all-tube amps, but have never heard of an all-valve amp... where did this difference in terminology originate?

[tim_commerfordism]

I don't know!
In the UK we call them valves and tubes now, though I think tubes is becoming the more dominant word.
I thought the first valve/tube amps were made in the UK anyway?

[TheIdiotBox]

I've always used the word tube, almost everyone I know does as well. Strange.

[BlackDwarf]

Its always been valve whenI've used it and in my Sound Engineering classes...

[museic]

us brits are backwards, thats the only explantation

[Son of Magni]

I remember a recording where Jimi Hendrix called them "valve tubes" :)

I guess they look like glass tubes, but function as electronic valves.

[trumpeter]

Vacuum Tubes?

[MyFriendOfMisery]

Why do people in the US call young males boys when people in England call them lads. I don't know if that is the place they do that but you get the point. We have different words for the same thing a lot. I guess its to do with the differences in our cultures.

[blizzard]

Maybe the Brits started calling them valves to show how much more "refined" they their American counterparts. Or it could just be something to do with trademarks/marketing like in America you have Xerox machines and we just call them photocopiers.

[pitchfork]

Why do people in the US call young males boys when people in England call them lads.
Yeah because all brits call boys lads.
Come on play the game we don't all use the same words and terminology.
I say both tube and valve.

[Polyamarous]

I've never said "lad" in my life :lol:

To be fair, Orange are a British amp company that say they make 'tube' amps.
Hiwatt, also British amps, make 'valve' amps.
Thats a thinker

[MyFriendOfMisery]

I didnt mean that was absolute truth, I mean we have different words for things. Of course you have your dialict(spelling?), but every language does. I didnt say everyone does because that wouldn't be true. Come on you know what I ment.

[edgebass5]

Or it could just be something to do with trademarks/marketing like in America you have Xerox machines and we just call them photocopiers.

Well... we call photocopiers that are made by Xerox in such a way. However for the most part we simply call them copiers, copy machine, photocopiers, etc. I think your argument is more applicable to something like calling ALL paper tissues Kleenex when that in fact refers simply to a brand.

[Polyamarous]

I didnt mean that was absolute truth, I mean we have different words for things. Of course you have your dialict(spelling?), but every language does. I didnt say everyone does because that wouldn't be true. Come on you know what I ment.

WE have the language, YOU have a different spin on it. :p

[MyFriendOfMisery]

Yeah same as Mexico and Spain, same language with some different words. But even people in the same country have a different spin on it, or that's how it is in the US, it may be different over there.

I guess this is sort of like slang terms.

[edgebass5]

^^^actually, dialects would be the more applicable term I would think... damn we're getting into some serious semantics here, haha.

[MyFriendOfMisery]

I think you might have found the answer to your question, I think there are other types of technology that have different names in the UK and US. I wonder if we can find out some more differences?

[Polyamarous]

Pavement = Sidewalk.

[MyFriendOfMisery]

flat = house
football = soccer
ruby = football

I have heard that some people in the UK call the telephone a tele? Is it true or just an untrue stereotype?

[Polyamarous]

We have a Flat you would have Apartment.
Our Football is your Soccer.

I'm afraid Rugby and American footlball are 2 VERY differnet games.

[TheIdiotBox]

flat = house
football = soccer
ruby = football

I have heard they some people in the UK call the telephone a tele? Is it true or just an untrue stereotype?"Telly" is what we call a television :lol:

[MyFriendOfMisery]

^Lol, my bad. I get confused sometimes.

Oh yeah its an apartment.
I said your football = soccer:p .
yeah you got me again on the football. What do you call your American football league? I've seen it on t.v.

[Polyamarous]

We don't have an American football league?
We have rugby leagues if thats what you mean?

I can get ESPN though, we have sky sports as well though.

[MyFriendOfMisery]

I could have sworn you did, Ive seen some game on T.v. Alot of our players go over there to play in the summer. It may not be exactly in the UK though. I think its the European Football Leauge. I know Berlin has a team, along with one from France. The UK may not be involved in it. Ill look it up real quick.

I found it. hxxp://www.nfleurope.com/news/story/9508306

[Polyamarous]

Well I never knew that existed! Weird beans!
We don't have a NFL team as far as I know, if we do then we don't get to watch the games on TV!

[MyFriendOfMisery]

It was on over here on network t.v.(not cable or satelite) for one season I think. I havent seen it again.

[pitchfork]

WE have the language, YOU have a different spin on it. :p
Touche' fellow englishman :chug:

Also these damn americans should stop calling what they call football "football" no, bad americans.
Swap the name's over, your game should be soccer ours should be football.

Do americans actually think we all speak like posh nobheads or cockney wankers?
Seriously i'm curious.

[TheIdiotBox]

From my experience, we all sound like Hugh Grant apparently. Them American girls can't get enough of a "British" accent :p

[MyFriendOfMisery]

It's like every charateristic, some do some don't or have it or dont have it. I'm not sure why we call it football, although the ball is about a foot long. Pitchfork why are you so angery?

[Wintermute]

He doesn't sound angry to me.

Them American girls can't get enough of a "British" accent

Truth. Oh god, truth.

And it is ironic that the stereotypical accent seems to either be based on a specific person, or one of the least common regional accents. :p

[PaulR]

Well I never knew that existed! Weird beans!
We don't have a NFL team as far as I know, if we do then we don't get to watch the games on TV!
Well, the NFL is the North American Football League, so no, we don't have one of those teams. :p

As far as I know, there is an American Football league over here, however, only at an amateur level.

Also, we used to have a team playing in the pro league of NFL Europe, but to my knowledge, the team no longer exists.

[MyFriendOfMisery]

^Yeah thats what I was refering too, NFL Europe.

Also these damn americans should stop calling what they call football "football" no, bad americans.
Swap the name's over, your game should be soccer ours should be football.

Seem semi-angery. Lots of people in America think that all the people from the south talk like hicks, but a lot of us have very little accent.

[Wintermute]

I'm willing to bet money that you do. Everyone thinks they don't have a very strong accent, but accents are completely relative. I don't hear a strong accent in myself, or any of my friends from the local area, but I bet you'd hear one.

[MyFriendOfMisery]

I mean we have some but not turned up to 11 like everyone thinks.:p I know its there I can hear it some but its not nearly as heavy as some people. They are some terrible accents. Iwenderridininmyolcurdathadaflattar, its sounds like one continuous drunken slur.

[edgebass5]

Pavement = Sidewalk.

uh-oh...now you've gone and done it. I'm a civil designer, so I design sidewalks and pavement all the time, and I can tell you they are not the same thing. A sidewalk is a walkway typically made out of concrete. Pavement is another term typically used for ACP which stands for asphaltic concrete paving. Keep in mind that even though the C in ACP stands for concrete it is most definitely not the same thing as concrete which is what sidewalks are typically made from... I'm a nerd... :(

[Wintermute]

Maybe in Richland, WA. :p

[MyFriendOfMisery]

If your talking about pavement as in a highway or parking lot a lot of times it is different. Our highways in Arkansas has tar in it lots of times. I don't know about other places though.

[Killer Fridge]

Everyone thinks they don't have a very strong accent, but accents are completely relative.

I dont have an accent. I'm from Surrey, and therefore, speak real
English

:thumb:

[Wintermute]

In other words, you're a southerner. With a southern accent.

Southerner.

[MyFriendOfMisery]

Lol, I am. I'm not picking on you or anything with that pavement statement, I was just saying its the same way here as where Edgebass lives.

[Wintermute]

Actually, the Southerner comment was directed at Killer Fridge. :p

[MyFriendOfMisery]

:lol: Oh ok, I didn't know he was from southern England.

[Killer Fridge]

In other words, you're a southerner. With a southern accent.

Southerner.

Nope, I think you'll find that everyone from Surrey speaks normally, and everyone else has the accent...honest

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:p

[edgebass5]

If your talking about pavement as in a highway or parking lot a lot of times it is different. Our highways in Arkansas has tar in it lots of times. I don't know about other places though.

Actually a highway and a parking lot are made from the same material. Its called ACP as I mentioned before (asphaltic concrete paving). The key differences are the thickness of the ACP, and the amount of CRB (crushed rock base) along with the degree of compaction of the CRB. If you're talking about new stretches of freeway through metropolitan areas then you are most-likely talking about concrete, complete with reinforcing steel. Its much more durable and is used in high-traffic areas on modern freeways.

Trust me man... I design this stuff for a living...

[MyFriendOfMisery]

That's what I was meaning. Pavement is different than concret sidewalks and the parts of the freeway as you said. I was backing up your statement sorry if it wasn't worded that well.
Doesn't ACP contain tar where concret does not?

[edgebass5]

^^^Tar is a term I usually associate with roofing products actually. While it is related to adhesive asphalt compounds it isn't necessarily the same thing. Regardless asphalt is the key ingredient in all of those types of substances.

[LewsTherin]

they look like glass tubes, but function as electronic valves.

kw0t3d 4 tr00f

[nilon]

Nope, I think you'll find that everyone from Surrey speaks normally, and everyone else has the accent...honest

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Yes, the Home Counties = speaking properly (unless you're including essex).

But hm, valves and tubes....just preference from the manafacturer? Like when a 3 band EQ has "low" and "high" labelled instead of "bass" and "treble"

[Polyamarous]

uh-oh...now you've gone and done it. I'm a civil designer, so I design sidewalks and pavement all the time, and I can tell you they are not the same thing. A sidewalk is a walkway typically made out of concrete. Pavement is another term typically used for ACP which stands for asphaltic concrete paving. Keep in mind that even though the C in ACP stands for concrete it is most definitely not the same thing as concrete which is what sidewalks are typically made from... I'm a nerd... :(

Damn! Owned!

[tim_commerfordism]

I'm a northerner, with a Northern accent, mind you I think I have got more of a Boro accent than a Yorkshire accent now, well atleast a mix of the two as I have been hanging around with more smoggies.

According to the_101er (Will), my family are all coal miners.
Comparing my self as a 'northerner' to other people on the forums, I barely have an accent! *cough* Chris K *cough*

Boot = Trunk
Bonnet = Hood

US 'gals like British accents, eh?
*Moving to the states next year/2 years*

Muahahahaha

[trumpeter]

I'm a northerner, with a Northern accent, mind you I think I have got more of a Boro accent than a Yorkshire accent now, well atleast a mix of the two as I have been hanging around with more smoggies.

According to the_101er (Will), my family are all coal miners.
Comparing my self as a 'northerner' to other people on the forums, I barely have an accent! *cough* Chris K *cough*

Boot = Trunk
Bonnet = Hood

US 'gals like British accents, eh?
*Moving to the states next year/2 years*

Muahahahaha

Everyone in the US swoons for the British accent.

[Polyamarous]

I'm a northerner, with a Northern accent, mind you I think I have got more of a Boro accent than a Yorkshire accent now, well atleast a mix of the two as I have been hanging around with more smoggies.

According to the_101er (Will), my family are all coal miners.
Comparing my self as a 'northerner' to other people on the forums, I barely have an accent! *cough* Chris K *cough*

Boot = Trunk
Bonnet = Hood

US 'gals like British accents, eh?
*Moving to the states next year/2 years*

Muahahahaha

*COUGH61%obesityamoungstu.s.population*COUGH*

[tim_commerfordism]

Everyone in the US swoons for the British accent.

swoons?

[the101er]

According to the_101er (Will), my family are all coal miners.

Quoted for truth

LAWL


God I'm gay

[TheIdiotBox]

swoons?Yeah, I'd say "swoons" is a pretty good way of describing it. I'm not quite sure how I'd define 'swooning', though :confused:

[the101er]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=swoon

Term there

[tim_commerfordism]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=swoon

Term there

Result. :chug: :p

Ever seen Love Actually? :naughty:

[TheIdiotBox]

"Watch out America, Colin Fristle's coming, AND HE'S GOT A BIIIIIG KNOOOOOB!"

Yeah, a couple of times :p

[tim_commerfordism]

Quoted for truth

LAWL


God I'm gay

Heh.

Forgot to ask, please ask your butler to make one a cup of tea. One would prefer to have just 3 sugars, and one like's one's tea milky. Thank you!

:rolleyes:

[the101er]

Heh.

Forgot to ask, please ask your butler to make one a cup of tea. One would prefer to have just 3 sugars, and one like's one's tea milky. Thank you!

:rolleyes:

Would one like to sip tea on the lawn while we watch the polo this weekend? How divine, darling!

/Irony

[tim_commerfordism]

Would one like to sip tea on the lawn while we watch the polo this weekend? How divine, darling!

/Irony

Oh that would be heavenly, darling! Where is Jeeves today? One asked for this cup of tea approximately half a minute ago! What sort of service do you expect one to take before one loses one's mind?

And don't think one does not know you've been getting a bit squiffy recently! One has had informants inform me on this matter!

[pitchfork]

^Yeah thats what I was refering too, NFL Europe.

Seem semi-angery. Lots of people in America think that all the people from the south talk like hicks, but a lot of us have very little accent.
More drunk than angry yesterday.

In other words, you're a southerner. With a southern accent.

Southerner.
Pfft northern monkey criminal chav type, gravy on everything.
Your beer sucks and you can't make a cup of tea.
Or something like that.

Southerners ftw :lol:

[the101er]

Oh that would be heavenly, darling! Where is Jeeves today? One asked for this cup of tea approximately half a minute ago! What sort of service do you expect one to take before one loses one's mind?

And don't think one does not know you've been getting a bit squiffy recently! One has had informants inform me on this matter!

Now you lost me :confused:

[tim_commerfordism]

Now you lost me :confused:

EDIT:

One is now lost.

:thumb:

Guess who's got an ampeg 410 and ampeg SVT-II? :cool:

[pitchfork]

Who?

[the101er]

Um the Queen?

[tim_commerfordism]

Um the Queen?

Think. Damn Southerner, you can't even think for yourself anymore like, can ya? Me! Ya gannin to any gigs soon or anything?