Chromatic Fantasy

[JadedBass]

anyone able to master this song? I can get through aout 20 secs of it and im trying to learnt he rest right now its quite a hard song

bach was a crazy dude, and jaco even crazier to play it:smash:

[Bass Queen]

yes, just learn one bar at a time.

[HaVIC5]

It's a bitch, especially considering he played it on a fretless. I've tried to conquer it, but never fully mastered it, at least up to tempo. With enough practice, though, anything is possible, so just keep at it.

[Moolah_the_Hutt]

Of course I can play it, I wrote it.

[naut]

take an Exlax, you'll be able to play it quite fluently.

[cmogawa]

its a hard song
very cool to listen to tho

[gaslight]

It's a hard song, if you're going to learn it, learn it off of the sheet music but redo the fingerings to suit yourself better.

I put some time into learning a bit of it a little while ago, from a Jaco transcription book, and found a lot of the fingerings provided for it didn't suit me at all.

[Tryxx]

http://www.subsonicsound.co.uk/mp3/chromatic_fantasy.mp3

Go listen to Alex's version of what he has so far. It's all fretless and stuff.

[Worrpigs]

http://www.subsonicsound.co.uk/mp3/chromatic_fantasy.mp3

Go listen to Alex's version of what he has so far. It's all fretless and stuff.
for some reason justin, i found that really funny.

[Tryxx]

for some reason justin, i found that really funny.

Hah, yeah. A bit of irony because that's how it is normally played, just saying because I thought his intonation was damn spiffy.

[Raiven]

http://www.subsonicsound.co.uk/mp3/chromatic_fantasy.mp3

Go listen to Alex's version of what he has so far. It's all fretless and stuff.

That's as far as I got.

After that it gets a bit silly.

[katana_manatee]

I'm quite sure Jaco recorded it on his fretted '62.

[Rowan S]

I managed to do it... I spent most saturday afternoon fully drilling it.. Yeah i can play it now, as fast as jaco's recorded version.

Just go thru it slow, master it at one speed then move on. Master it at that speed, then move on.. etc.

[SixnStones]

i learnt it as a recital piece, its boring to learn all the way through imo, but nice piece. Just work through one phrase at a time and u'll get there

[Duncster]

I could never figure out what right hand fingerings to use for the part after the intro. I'm assuming he played it thumb index middle. this would mean mastering a new technique to play one song. I'm just not that dedicated!
And to Rowan, I'd love to hear a recording :lol:

[MyFriendOfMisery]

It's a bitch, especially considering he played it on a fretless. I've tried to conquer it, but never fully mastered it, at least up to tempo. With enough practice, though, anything is possible, so just keep at it.
I don't agree with that. If I ran all day, everyday I wouldn't be the fastest person ever. Yes practice goes a long way, but it comes down to natural ability also.

If you practice enough you'll probably be able to learn it. Take it in small doses and then work them up too speed. You should do fine.

[HaVIC5]

Hah, yeah. A bit of irony because that's how it is normally played, just saying because I thought his intonation was damn spiffy.
Actually, I thought his intonation was pretty off.

[Jimothy the 33rd]

I don't agree with that. If I ran all day, everyday I wouldn't be the fastest person ever. Yes practice goes a long way, but it comes down to natural ability also.

If you practice enough you'll probably be able to learn it. Take it in small doses and then work them up too speed. You should do fine.
You mean... :upset:..
All this practise...
And I was just born ****?
:upset:

[MyFriendOfMisery]

No, I mean that some people(not you) can't be as good as Jaco. I'm sure you'll get better. Just practice it and you'll will get better. If you can't seem to get a song after a lot of practice, just take a break and come back to it later. There have been a lot of songs I couldn't learn at the time. I took a break from them and came back to them later on and I learned it. Practice will make you better, but there is a limit.

[peeted]

i dont realy get the point of learning cromatic fantisy unless its for a performance, if your good enough to be playing that then ya should realy be writing your own stuff or playing some jazz.
if you realy do wana learn it though just do it bar by bar and practice it to a metranome.

[Jimothy the 33rd]

No, I mean that some people(not you) can't be as good as Jaco. I'm sure you'll get better. Just practice it and you'll will get better. If you can't seem to get a song after a lot of practice, just take a break and come back to it later. There have been a lot of songs I couldn't learn at the time. I took a break from them and came back to them later on and I learned it. Practice will make you better, but there is a limit.

Yeah I know what you mean.
Sometimes I do feel like I was born **** though.
When I hear some of you guys.

[MyFriendOfMisery]

Same here, although a tinny bit of my suckage is a squier bass and no lessons. These guys could play better than me if they had broken fingers.

[JadedBass]

i can get it down for the most part, its just sitting down and learning it though, its a tedious peice, but i think it be a great song just to be able to play when you need to:chug:

[EADG]

I managed to do it... I spent most saturday afternoon fully drilling it.. Yeah i can play it now, as fast as jaco's recorded version.
.


It doesn't exist without recordings.

[Exodus_101]

It doesn't exist without recordings.

Too true, i'd love to hear it.

[Phalanx]

Actually, I thought his intonation was pretty off.

sounded good to me but that might be something to do with me not having my head up my own arse

[gaslight]

I think Havic has a legitimate point, if you compare it to Jaco's recorded version you can hear the difference. I don't think Havic is trying to put him down, just making an observation.

[Chameleon]

Chromatic Fantasy........sucks. For me, it's a classic example of the concept of solo bass gone wrong.

[Alma]

I think Havic has a legitimate point, if you compare it to Jaco's recorded version you can hear the difference. I don't think Havic is trying to put him down, just making an observation.

Exactly. Not everyone around here puts people down.

Constructive critism, people can improve from this. Nothing bad.

[Rollo47]

I'm pretty much in the same boat as Havic. I practised it constantly for quite a while and got it pretty good, but not quite up to speed. It's not too hard to get it sounding alright, but to master it is pretty darn hard.

[gaslight]

The thing about Chromatic Fantasy is while it is technically very impressive and I appreciate it a lot for that, I don't actually find it greatly pleasing to listen to, which makes it a bit harder to keep up the motivation of slogging through the transcription.

[Rollo47]

I find that it's a hell of a lot better sounding when you play it slower. I'm not actually a big fan of Jaco's recording of it.

[JadedBass]

Chromatic Fantasy........sucks. For me, it's a classic example of the concept of solo bass gone wrong.

well i think you would have to take that up with bach:chug:

[Akira]

I find that it's a hell of a lot better sounding when you play it slower. I'm not actually a big fan of Jaco's recording of it.
I find that true with a lot of Jaco songs. Take his version of Blackbird. It might sound okay at 126 or w/e with the harmonica, but on it's own at least it sounds much better significantly slower, maybe 100 or so.

[Wintermute]

Actually, I thought his intonation was pretty off.

So did I, as it happens. It's a very sloppy recording. I'm going to re-record when I get the chance, I know I can do better than that.

[naut]

well i think you would have to take that up with bach:chug:

what does Bach have to do with Jaco ruining one of his songs?

[Jaded]

I started learning it as an audition piece and I got 4 bars down and got sidetracked. I've been meaning to start learning it again but I've been very busy lately.

[HaVIC5]

I think Havic has a legitimate point, if you compare it to Jaco's recorded version you can hear the difference. I don't think Havic is trying to put him down, just making an observation.
Oh by no means was I putting the Wintermute down. I just think that the intonation was pretty shoddy. To compare him up against Jaco though isn't very fair, though.

[Chameleon]

well i think you would have to take that up with bach:chug:

Nah, my problem is not with the piece, it's with the sound of the piece played on solo bass. It was originally written for...harpsichord, I think? Still not my favourite piece of music, but it sounds reasonable on a harpsichord, or on piano or organ.

I don't believe bass has the right qualities to pull it off. At least not in the octave that Jaco played it in.

[Chris K]

sounded good to me but that might be something to do with me not having my head up my own arse

Now, this one came flying from the left wing :confused:

[Killer Fridge]

Nah, my problem is not with the piece, it's with the sound of the piece played on solo bass. It was originally written for...harpsichord, I think? Still not my favourite piece of music, but it sounds reasonable on a harpsichord, or on piano or organ.

I don't believe bass has the right qualities to pull it off. At least not in the octave that Jaco played it in.

Hehe, I love Harpsicords.

"Must...change...dynamics...crappy....lack...of...v olume...control...gah...*dies*"

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