MX Chord Progression Improv Contest

[shaqadelic]

Almost monthly, the Guitar Forum organizes an improvisation, or more accurately, a soloing contest where a chord progression is given, then participants record the progression in any way they desire and then solo over it. It has always been a guitar forum tradition. But now, I wanna extend it to the other forums. So, I wanna invite the drums and percussion community to join in as well; so in this case, you do drum solo. Since we are all musicians, our music can be enjoyed and judged regardless of the instruments played.

I know that it might sound ackward, for some, to talk about drum/percussion solo over a chord progression, but to give an idea of what it can sound like, check this (http://media.putfile.com/03-The-Noonward-Race) out; during the drum solo, which is at the latter portion of the song, the guitarist is playing chord and interacting with the drummer. For those who are familiar with these type of soloing, do help and provide more examples for people to get a better idea.

For people who are interested but are not able to make backing track, you can ask assistance from the Guitar (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=7), Bass (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8) and Other Instruments (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56) community.

So, I hope that clears everything up, if you have any question, please ask away.

For the main thread, which is in the Guitar Forum, go here (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=477054). I hope you drummers/percussionists will participate.

[Massik Kretal]

Huh? So do we solo over the solo? or chord progression?

[Janeway]

What is this chord thing??

[shaqadelic]

Huh? So do we solo over the solo? or chord progression?

You solo over the chord progression.

What is this chord thing??

Go to the thread to know the chords. It is here (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=477054). Or are you asking what is a chord?

[Janeway]

No. I know what chords are. =/

But we're drummers. I thought I'd break the ice for the nooby boobs who don't bother to learn music theory.

[Vannaroth]

This could be interesting

[shaqadelic]

But we're drummers. I thought I'd break the ice for the nooby boobs who don't bother to learn music theory.


Aha well, then you can definitely ask anybody from the other forums to help you out with recording the chords.

[Massik Kretal]

Oh so we have to record the chords? What about drummers without geetars.

[Electric Requiem]

Oh so we have to record the chords? What about drummers without geetars.
he said to ask other people like on the guitar forum

[shaqadelic]

he said to ask other people like on the guitar forum

You sir, are right.

[Jezen]

Hmmm.. I could ask my cousin to lay me down some chords tomorrow :D

[Janeway]

The one that looked like a troll?

[Massik Kretal]

Oh thats cool. I could put down some chords, or my brother.

[Jezen]

The one that looked like a troll?

You actually remember that!?

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2689/livingnio2005627qx.jpg

[Pleaseme]

Dude...I have to go to bed with that imprinted in my head now.

[Electric Requiem]

ahaha

[Corkofski]

my god...

[Janeway]

You guys are dicks.
Look at the impression you made for us in the guitar forum.

[Jezen]

If you are so worried about image, don't call us dicks. Just move on, and try and look cool for the guitarists....

:rolleyes:

[Carn]

Chords are for weakminded insignificant fools.

[Jezen]

They are also the building blocks for thousands of songs. Hmm...

[Carn]

You need a sarcasm update.

[Jezen]

You're probably right, but then again: Sarcasm on the net? I thought we had been through this...

[Juicy_Forlorn]

This contest would be a lot of fun. I'd enter, but I don't have any way of recording myself playing to a backing track.

[Carn]

And unfortunatly, my mic happens to be broken :(

[Massik Kretal]

How long do we have for this comp? I'm to lazy to check.

[Janeway]

If you are so worried about image, don't call us dicks. Just move on, and try and look cool for the guitarists....

:rolleyes:
Don't use that face with me.

Dick.

[Det_Nosnip]

Meh.

[drumtilidie]

guitarists aren't worth looking cool for.






:amaze:






:upset: I play guitar...

[White]

Wait, so Is the guitarist aloud to change chords??? lol, srry, Im just wondering if he has to just hit the smae chord every second, also, Would this pretty much be a competition as to how well the solo fits in with the guitar????

[Ellx]

^^Yes, thus a chord 'progression'.

[red n black]

Will the drummers have their own contest??? Or will we compeet with the guitarists????

How long can the solo be??? Who decides the winner????

[DxRocker]

You guys are dicks.
Look at the impression you made for us in the guitar forum.

Who cares about guitar players? They are at our mercy as it is us who decide how well they will look on stage anyway :smash:

As for this thread, I like the idea.

Interaction with the other forums should be done more often.

[shaqadelic]

How long do we have for this comp? I'm to lazy to check.

Till 15th July.

Will the drummers have their own contest??? Or will we compeet with the guitarists????

How long can the solo be??? Who decides the winner????

Same contest as the guitar forum's. Record the progression and record a drum solo over it.

[Massik Kretal]

Hmm, that might give me enough time to buy a new set.

Also I don't understand, do people get graded on the solo or the chords?

[shaqadelic]

Hmm, that might give me enough time to buy a new set.

Also I don't understand, do people get graded on the solo or the chords?

People get graded on the overall quality of course.

[spike9908]

And who does this "grading"? Sorry, but odds are this won't work at all. What you're asking for is a drum prodominate duet, not a solo, just so you know.

[440561]

I think its just generally a cool idea to do a solo consisting of guitar bass and drums from just people on these forums. It would kind of bring them all together as well.

[crazyguy832]

Well, this could work, but not how you're describing it.

Perhaps teams of a guitarist and a drummer. A lot of drummers don't have access to melody-producing instruments.

[spike9908]

I think its just generally a cool idea to do a solo consisting of guitar bass and drums from just people on these forums. It would kind of bring them all together as well.

That would be a trio.

As I said earlier, I doubt this will really work. The way you have it is too complex. It would be like going into the guitar forum and saying using only these beats, record your own drum track, then "solo" over it. The majority of people don't have drum sets, and if they do, probably don't have mics. for them. (And don't say they could come here for the tracks, because in all the threads I've seen of guitarists asking for a track, I don't think they've ever gotten one.)

The way you should do it is come in here, post your audio of the chord progression, then we record over it with our thing.

[Electric Requiem]

That would be a trio.

As I said earlier, I doubt this will really work. The way you have it is too complex. It would be like going into the guitar forum and saying using only these beats, record your own drum track, then "solo" over it. The majority of people don't have drum sets, and if they do, probably don't have mics. for them. (And don't say they could come here for the tracks, because in all the threads I've seen of guitarists asking for a track, I don't think they've ever gotten one.)

The way you should do it is come in here, post your audio of the chord progression, then we record over it with our thing.
Even if we did end up with the trio thing happening, if would probably just be all three people trying to get the most attention, ending up with three people playing with near complete disregard for what the other two were playing.
I believe we could have it with a guitarist coming here and giving us the backing track then we play over it.

[Jezen]

I would do it, happily backing the band and not fronting it.

[shaqadelic]

That would be a trio.

As I said earlier, I doubt this will really work. The way you have it is too complex. It would be like going into the guitar forum and saying using only these beats, record your own drum track, then "solo" over it. The majority of people don't have drum sets, and if they do, probably don't have mics. for them. (And don't say they could come here for the tracks, because in all the threads I've seen of guitarists asking for a track, I don't think they've ever gotten one.)

The way you should do it is come in here, post your audio of the chord progression, then we record over it with our thing.

Well, I haven't seen even one drummer, who doesn't have access to a melody instrument, go into the guitar, bass or the other forums to enquire about backing tracks, so I haven't seen any reason other than laziness.

[isp_of_doom]

Almost monthly, the Guitar Forum organizes an improvisation, or more accurately, a soloing contest where a chord progression is given, then participants record the progression in any way they desire and then solo over it. It has always been a guitar forum tradition. But now, I wanna extend it to the other forums. So, I wanna invite the drums and percussion community to join in as well. Since we are all musicians, our music can be enjoyed and judged regardless of the instruments played.



Sorry mate, cant find the strings and frets on my drumkit... as for what this little piece of plastic (a "pic") it doesn't make a nice sound... I'm going back to sticks.

[moogoogaipan]

Well, I haven't seen even one drummer, who doesn't have access to a melody instrument, go into the guitar, bass or the other forums to enquire about backing tracks, so I haven't seen any reason other than laziness.
Even those with access don't have the proficiency to just lay down a chord progression and solo over it. It takes a long time to get proficient with reading and voicing chord progressions.
You're asking too much from the drummers.

Even me, with jazz piano training and a history of extensive classical training in melodic percussion would have a time trying to put together a chord progression other than straight whole notes in root position

[shaqadelic]

Oh, I think many of you missed the point, I want you to record a drum solo over the progression. I thought it is obvious from the first post.

*goes to edit stuff*

[moogoogaipan]

^^^that's what I thought you said, but I didn't go back and read the first post because I assumed that everyone wouldn't make an oversight that big.

[shaqadelic]

Yes, the misunderstanding is astronomically wack. Now, since that is cleaed up, hopefully the drums community can enter.

[fishbulb]

I think a backing track comp. would be the best. It's just straight forward. But, to get the guitar forum involved, the guitarists can make the backing tracks for the drumers, and the drummers make the backing tracks for the guitarists.

But then we would have a lot of backing tracks that the guitarists could choose from and i'd think a lot of them would choose the same one. And same with the drummers.

We could have pairs, we would each get paired with a different guitarist and both would make backing tracks and both would solo over the other's backing track. But then the voting would be weird.

I'm just throwing out idears.

And shag, give props to whoever did that solo/song that you linked to.

[Jezen]

Well, I have decided to (when I get round to it), make a chord progression of my own in Fruity Loops, and solo over that.

[shaqadelic]

Well, I have decided to (when I get round to it), make a chord progression of my own in Fruity Loops, and solo over that.

Then I am looking forward.

fishbulb

Some very nice ideas there. BTW, the drummer is the amazing Billy Cobham.

[fishbulb]

Oh. Okay then.

[spike9908]

Well, I haven't seen even one drummer, who doesn't have access to a melody instrument, go into the guitar, bass or the other forums to enquire about backing tracks, so I haven't seen any reason other than laziness.

That is pure ignorance. Though I do have access to several melody instruments, I personally know several drummers who do not. Its like saying every guitarist has access to a drum kit. Also, access doesn't mean there is knowledge of how to play the instrument.

And as I said in an earlier post, with my experience in the D&P, someone getting a recording of the backing track they want is a rare occurrence.


EDIT:As for your whole "we are all musicians, so we can "grade" eachother" thing, its not practical. I can enjoy Joe Satriani's music, but that doesn't mean I truely understand what he is playing. The instrument gap will create problems because of a lack of understanding of what is being played.

[shaqadelic]

That is pure ignorance. Though I do have access to several melody instruments, I personally know several drummers who do not. Its like saying every guitarist has access to a drum kit. Also, access doesn't mean there is knowledge of how to play the instrument.

Again another misunderstanding of what I said. Read again carefully. I said that I haven't seen even one drummer enquire about backing tracks in the other forums. I did not say drummers should have melody instruments.

If anybody is interested, I am happy to make a thread and will help get a backing track.

Also, I suggest reading my first post again cause you are one of the many who didn't get what I meant.

The instrument gap will create problems because of a lack of understanding of what is being played.

This will only be a problem if this is a professional contest. Since this is a very light and fun-oriented contest, voters don't have to be an expert.

[Electric Requiem]

Well, I haven't seen even one drummer, who doesn't have access to a melody instrument, go into the guitar, bass or the other forums to enquire about backing tracks, so I haven't seen any reason other than laziness.
I believe you could clear up the misunderstanding by replacing the two commas I bolded with parenthesis.

[The_Stratomaster]

Chords are for weakminded insignificant fools.
You, sir, are a moron.

You guys are dicks.
Look at the impression you made for us in the guitar forum.

I hang out in both. Lol, believe me, the guitar forum isnt much better.

[Jezen]

You, sir, are a moron.


Well, actually this is making you look stupid, as he already explained that he was being sarcastic.

[We_Love_Lime]

I love how this is not going to work out.

[shaqadelic]

I love how this is not going to work out.

That's mx for ya.

[Josiah]

I failed to see the point of getting a recording of a guitar first....


shagadelic - we have drum off's every couple months. Half the time they are too backing tracks, half the time they are pure solo. I would suggest you simply wait til one occurs, then go ahead and post the entries in the forums you wish to see the given responses from the other musicians.

[shaqadelic]

Hello Josiah. I am aware of the competition you are talking about and there is another contest in the Guitar Forum that would work perfectly with it, more than this one atleast.

But I'ma still try to see what I can achieve with this one.

[moogoogaipan]

ok... so to be specific. are we supposed to go to the guitar forum and pick out one of their backtracks and solo over it.... or what? I'm still confused

[shaqadelic]

If you can't make a backing track on your own, then yes. If not, just go on with yours, Like stated clearly in my first post...

For people who are interested but are not able to make backing track, you can ask assistance from the Guitar, Bass and Other Instruments community.

I dunno if I am not clear enough in the first post or is it because people dislike reading.