Bands that get better with age

[Kif]

OK everyone, list off bands which you think have gotten better as their careers have gotten longer, and the reasons you think this.

Right off the bat I've got to say The All-American Rejects. I thought "Swing, Swing" was catchy at best when it came out, and "The Last Song" was just a horrible and boring single when it was released. But Move Along really showed me they have good songwriting, and they can be both catchy and actually good.

Your turn :)

[Bad Blood]

I think AAR's self titled was awesome, their new one doesn't quite live upto it imo.

Alkaline Trio got better with age, but just recently they've gone downhill a little.

[bottlerocket]

On the Might of Princes

Sirens was a pretty good album but I liked Where You Are, Where You Want to Be a lot more.

Chiodos, too. Man, when they were The Chiodos Bros., they sucked, but now they're one of the few scene bands I like. They're a guilty pleasure.

-Gav

[chumpradio]

Brand New got better in my opinion as they released Deja, but I will need to hear their new album to find out if they just keep on getting better.

[bottlerocket]

I strongly disagree. I think YFW was MUCH better than Deja. When I listen to pop-punk, I want extremely upbeat stuff with a hint of angst. Jesse had it down pat with YFW. I was thoroughly disappointed with DE. I mean, it's an OK album, it's just not what I wanted at all.

-Gav

[DaveIsWrong]

Brand New got better in my opinion as they released Deja, but I will need to hear their new album to find out if they just keep on getting better.

Whole-heartedly agree, but after listening to the demos a few million times, I already think they've gotten better. But since those are the songs that've been scrapped, I suppose I'll reserve my opinion until release.

[Surtr]

Yeah, I agree on Brand New. But this new album is going to tell all.

[skingle]

Sum 41
Primus

[chumpradio]

I strongly disagree. I think YFW was MUCH better than Deja. When I listen to pop-punk, I want extremely upbeat stuff with a hint of angst. Jesse had it down pat with YFW. I was thoroughly disappointed with DE. I mean, it's an OK album, it's just not what I wanted at all.

-Gav
I can understand were you are coming from.
If I want a much more upbeat album, I will listen to YFW, and it is a much better album.
But in general, I prefer more acoustic styled music, which is why I prefer Deja overall.

[nobodyblossomsforever]

Sum 41
Primus

If you ask me, Primus tended to lose it's success in the later years.

[skingle]

I really enjoyed the antipop.

[bottlerocket]

Hey, it's cool. When I want acoustic stuff, I usually listen to more modern emo bands like Sinking Steps...Rising Eyes, etc. It may not be acoustic, but that feel is still there. :thumb:

-Gav

[nobodyblossomsforever]

I really enjoyed the antipop.

\m/

One of my favorite albums by far.

I just meant statsitic wise.

[skingle]

Oh right ok. I don't know the eras that well, i know the antipop was a late one.

I have:

The brown album
Antipop
Tales from the punchbowl
Pork soda
Seas of cheese

And I don't like tales from the punchbowl much but the others are mostly good.

[nobodyblossomsforever]

This is the history of Primus:

Suck On This!- Primus's first album.
Frizzle Fry- Their second and included a lot of the songs from the first.
Sailing The Seas Of Cheese- Unlike the first two, this album came out of the underground and went to be one of their most successful albums.
Pork Soda- The album that pushed Primus into the "mainstream", but they weren't sell-outs thank God.
Tales From The Punchbowl- Had a Grammy Nominee song, but was one of the weaker albums.
The Brown Album- Didn't succeed very well, though I think it was a great album.
Antipop- Pretty much killed Primus. I loved the album though and think it's very retarded that it didn't do better.

If anything they made a mountain on the charts.

[cobert]

On the Might of Princes

Sirens was a pretty good album but I liked Where You Are, Where You Want to Be a lot more.

-Gav

I thought Sirens came out later? I guess I was wrong. OTMOP are amazing.

Im also surprised it took 4 posts to mention brand new. I thought they would be the first band mentioned.

[BridgeToSolace]

Armor For Sleep's newer album is much better than their first effort. Much more mature and structured and overall more enjoyable to listen to. They still can't write lyrics for ****, though.

Protest The Hero's first album is kinda horrid. The production is aweful and it lacks a lot of polish. Kezia is absolutely fantastic, though. The talent, the range of styles, it's increadible.

Fordirelifesake's newer album is far more consistant and good than their first album.

And Envy's most recent albums (past five years) have been much better than the stuff before that. They went from pure hardcore to using dynamics and better song writing. Fantastic.

[bottlerocket]

I thought Sirens came out later? I guess I was wrong. OTMOP are amazing.

Im also surprised it took 4 posts to mention brand new. I thought they would be the first band mentioned.

I could've sworn it was first...maybe it is after? I don't know...

-Gav

[711]

The new AFI material, in my opinion, sounds better than the older stuff.

[Bad Blood]

The new AFI material, in my opinion, sounds better than the older stuff.

New AFI is more pop punk, where as older AFI was more punk. I think their older stuff was better though.

[cobert]

I could've sworn it was first...maybe it is after? I don't know...

-Gav

I'll check for it right now.

EDIT: Sirens was released later.

[Gnarmageddon]

New AFI is more pop punk, where as older AFI was more punk. I think their older stuff was better though.
New AFI is poppy radio material. : \

[Oz Rembrandt]

This is the history of Primus:

Suck On This!- Primus's first album.
Frizzle Fry- Their second and included a lot of the songs from the first.
Sailing The Seas Of Cheese- Unlike the first two, this album came out of the underground and went to be one of their most successful albums.
Pork Soda- The album that pushed Primus into the "mainstream", but they weren't sell-outs thank God.
Tales From The Punchbowl- Had a Grammy Nominee song, but was one of the weaker albums.
The Brown Album- Didn't succeed very well, though I think it was a great album.
Antipop- Pretty much killed Primus. I loved the album though and think it's very retarded that it didn't do better.

If anything they made a mountain on the charts.

See, Frizzle Fry and Seas of Cheese are both Incredible, but Pork Soda I didn't enjoy so much. Brown Album is my favourite Primus album.

I agree with AFI too, up until Decemberunderground. Sing the Sorrow is a fantastic album.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

Lagwagon kinda cause I think Resolve is their best work.

[Kif]

I think Sum 41 definately hit their high point with Does This Look Infected?, but their last album was a bit of a disappointment. Has some bloody good tracks on it, but it just falls up short.

[poprocks&coke]

I agree with AFI too, up until Decemberunderground.

That album made me do this:

:upset:

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I can't think of any atm :(

Maybe Thrice... to a certain extent. IC is their weakest. But IOS is there best, so no.

[Untitled]

I think Sum 41 definately hit their high point with Does This Look Infected?, but their last album was a bit of a disappointment. Has some bloody good tracks on it, but it just falls up short.
Defiantly, and now they have lost Dave too :eek:


I think TBS are back on the up, the new album is fantastic, much better the WYWTB, which i do realy like. I dunno if its as good as TAYF, i cant decided, they sound to differnt to compare.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I agree with Butler. Definetely.

[Bad Blood]

New AFI is poppy radio material. : \

It's more pop punk though. It fits into the genre at least.

[Untitled]

It's more pop punk though. It fits into the genre at least.
Not realy. Not if you go of the true meaning of pop-punk.


And tbh, im not geting into all that crap.

[skingle]

Its difficult because a lot of bands start off strong, then get worse, then get better again, but its hard to decide whether the old or new stuff is best.

RHCP (IMO) is an example.

[Mitch2oo6]

Stadium Arcadium is awesome.
I agree with Butler, TBS are on the rise once more. I love louder now, i didnt stop listening to it for two weeks.

[yourstruly]

I think all bands get better with age . Like they get better/faster at song writing and more experienced in genera. Just depends how they use these things though.

I can only think of one band that got better with age right now and it's NOFX. Got poppier, but still better. Mostly because when they started they sucked ***.

[711]

^I agree

[frmautumTOashes]

Sum 41
Yellowcard
Poison the Well
Underoath (I know a lot of people would disagree but I could never get into Act of Depression and Cries of the Past)

[Untitled]

I cant see the Sum41 cliam tbh honest.

They went..

HHOP>>>AKNF>>>>>>>>DTLI<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Chuck

Thats my diagram, > = Rise < = fall

The More arrows, the better, or worse.

[Fish]

story of the year became a lot more rock influenced in their newer album, i think its cool to listen to Page avenue, then listen to all the solos they put in In Wake Of Determination. Songwriting wise, i like PA more then IWoD but the guitar skill blew me away off the new album.

[bottlerocket]

Defiantly, and now they have lost Dave too :eek:


I think TBS are back on the up, the new album is fantastic, much better the WYWTB, which i do realy like. I dunno if its as good as TAYF, i cant decided, they sound to differnt to compare.

TAYF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WYWTB
TAYF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LN

LN = WYWTB = terrible music that's totally uninspired and devoid of any emotion since John Nolan and Shaun left the band GOD DAMMIT STRAYLIGHT SHOULD BREAK UP AND JOHN SHOULD GET BACK IN TBS AND THEY SHOULD KEEP MATT RUBANO ON BASS BECAUSE HE'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE BASSISTS BECAUSE HE'S SO ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND SHAUN CAN BE A ROADIE OR SOMETHING AND MICHELLE CAN PLAY KEYBOARD FOR TBS THEY WOULD BE SO AMAZING IF JOHN WAS BACK IN TBS WTF WHY THE HELL DID HE LEAVE GOD DAMMIT I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M GOING ON THIS RANT RAHHHHH.

There's one thing we CAN agree on:

Milli Vanilli was never good.

-Gav

[Bad Blood]

Not realy. Not if you go of the true meaning of pop-punk.


And tbh, im not geting into all that crap.

If AvA is pop punk, new AFI is.

[Kif]

TAYF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WYWTB
TAYF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LN

LN = WYWTB = terrible music that's totally uninspired and devoid of any emotion since John Nolan and Shaun left the band GOD DAMMIT STRAYLIGHT SHOULD BREAK UP AND JOHN SHOULD GET BACK IN TBS AND THEY SHOULD KEEP MATT RUBANO ON BASS BECAUSE HE'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE BASSISTS BECAUSE HE'S SO ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND SHAUN CAN BE A ROADIE OR SOMETHING AND MICHELLE CAN PLAY KEYBOARD FOR TBS THEY WOULD BE SO AMAZING IF JOHN WAS BACK IN TBS WTF WHY THE HELL DID HE LEAVE GOD DAMMIT I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M GOING ON THIS RANT RAHHHHH.

-Gav
LN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WYWTB

LN has some sweetass tracks on there, and clearly the new bandmates have gotten used to each other better and are able to write better because.

And don't ever say SLR should break up, because I love them and if they did break up they wouldn't be able to make a new super-awesome album whenever it comes out.

:p :rolleyes: :eek: :WTG:

[711]

Louder Now really dissapointed me :(

It was just a pretty sloppy CD in my opinion, just very average.

[Fish]

i like the older stuff too, but i still think Louder Now was a pretty good album

[711]

WYWTB is pretty much my favorite

[adarkform]

three 6 mafia




>_>

[Fish]

<_<

711: yeah i agree

[FungusAmngus870]

there are a lot of bands that get better with age, but Thrice really came to mind on this one.

[cobert]

Tell all Your Friends is one of my favorite albums. Theres a few songs on WYWTB that are good, and Louder Now is bettr then WYWTB, even though now theyre just straight up pop, its has some radddd tracks on it.

[Kujo]

There's one thing we CAN agree on:

Milli Vanilli was never good.

-Gav

Girl, you know it's true.

[Fish]

there are a lot of bands that get better with age, but Thrice really came to mind on this one.
meh, i didnt really like their newer album as much as the older stuff

[adarkform]

same, vehissu or whatever sort of sucked for me, artist in the ambulance is awesome though, and illuison of safety, i lost it :(, ic i havent listened to in a really long time

[Fish]

yeah AITA is my favorite by far, they had the worst set list at Taste of Chaos this year, it made me sad

[Slaybial Punker]

I think Sum 41 seemed to get better. By "better" I mean in terms of playing their instruments. Chuck didn't seem as original since people went through a fine-toothed comb and realized that some tracks off Chuck were similar to other well-known songs. I'm interested to see what the band can do now, without Dave.

[Dinosawesome]

Despite what everyone says, I personally think Taking Back Sunday have improved themselves with every album.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Adam's voice has improved quite a bit, and instrumentally, the band has progressed.

I'm part of the LN>WYWTB

I like all of their albums though.

LN and WYWTB seem to be easier to listen to than TAYF tbh.

[Get Fighted]

WYWTB is pretty much my favorite

Same here.

WYWTB>>>>LN>>>>TAYF.

All albums are great though.

[cobert]

Blasphemy, you cant say TAYF is Taking Back Sunday's worst album.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Cobert is right.

[Pazz]

Dan is right.

[DepthsOfDreams555]

Matt is right.

[adarkform]

Zach is right.

[Get Fighted]

Blasphemy, you cant say TAYF is Taking Back Sunday's worst album.

So what if I prefer the others more? I suppose i can't agree with what other people think then :rolleyes:

[cobert]

Actually, no you can't, you must agree that "Tell All Your Friends" is the best album.

Don't take things so seriously.

[DepthsOfDreams555]

No I'm serious you do have to agree that TAYF is the best album. :p

[Get Fighted]

Im going to think this one over.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Dude, this is more than an opinion, it's a fact.

It's the 11th commandment.

[Get Fighted]

Well having listened to Great Romances Of The 20th Century for the first time in ages and some other great songs, I have decided:

WYWTB>>>>TAYF>>>>LN

[cobert]

I'm still not quite understanding you fully here.

So, this...>....is the greater than sign. If that is correct, you are saying that Where You Want To Be is superior to Tell All Your Friends. I just don't get it, I think i'm missing something here. Would anybody care to help me out?

[Pazz]

I'm still not quite understanding you fully here.

So, this...>....is the greater than sign. If that is correct, you are saying that Where You Want To Be is superior to Tell All Your Friends. I just don't get it, I think i'm missing something here. Would anybody care to help me out?

He's an idiot, you should know that.

[cobert]

Whoah whoah whoah, settle down there. I'm not getting harsh, I'm just busting balls here.

[Pazz]

Whoah whoah whoah, settle down there. I'm not getting harsh, I'm just busting balls here.

You know my views on that user.

[Get Fighted]

He's an idiot, you should know that.

**** off. I didn't say any bad word in your direction and you just come out with that.

[cobert]

You know my views on that user.

True.

Seriously though, everyone needs to chill now. Just drop the subject.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Invalid Usernames opinon on TBS albums in INVALID!!!!!!

edit - we're just joking

[Pazz]

**** off. I didn't say any bad word in your direction and you just come out with that.

Didn't you say the other day you were leaving the forums for a couple of months, yet you are here.

[Get Fighted]

Maybe i did. But then i thought:

1. The forums will help me expand my music taste.
2. I don't care what people think of me, But I do care if faggots like you flame me for no reason.

[cobert]

Stop fighting, ladies.

[Pazz]

Maybe i did. But then i thought:

1. The forums will help me expand my music taste.
2. I don't care what people think of me, But I do care if large bundle of stickss like you flame me for no reason.

Well 13 year olds shouldn't be on the internet. They are usually naive.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

:eek:

drama!

[Get Fighted]

I enjoy posting here, about the one thing we all do, listen to music. I get along with a fair few people here, i don't think i cause any harm. Yes i may make a stupid post occasionly, but i usually redeem myself.

[Pazz]

Occasionally?

Every day I come on here and see a stupid random post made by you and no one cares about what happened.

[Get Fighted]

Every day? I think not.

The last post i made like that was about my brother's driving test a week back, and i'm sure i learned not to do it again. Plus you've had it in for me since i first joined pretty much, although then i was a bad poster.

[cobert]

DROP THE SUBJECT.

Just let it go, people.

[Ganondorf]

:lol:

[Get Fighted]

Fine, but i have done nothing wrong.

A band which has got better with age is Funeral For A Friend.

[Fish]

matt got angry :p

[DepthsOfDreams555]

Casually Dressed and Deep In Conversation is much better than Hours haha. IMO of course but I still enjoy Hours but they changed there style sooo much it's hard to compare the two.

Well having listened to Great Romances Of The 20th Century for the first time in ages and some other great songs, I have decided:

WYWTB>>>>TAYF>>>>LN

NO NO NO NO like I realize these are your opinions but I don't understand how you feel this way. WYWTB is by far their worst album.

[Fish]

i really enjoy hospitality, but my all time favorite from FFAF was the 7 ways to scream your name EP

[Pazz]

Every day? I think not.

The last post i made like that was about my brother's driving test a week back, and i'm sure i learned not to do it again. Plus you've had it in for me since i first joined pretty much, although then i was a bad poster.

DROP THE SUBJECT.

Just let it go, people.

I have more to say to him, but I will stop because cobert requested it.

[cbmartinez]

Wow, you guys act like prissy bitches sometimes. Sure that kid makes some stupid posts but you guys post in the community thread all day making posts just as pointless as that. Chill out. And all because he has a different opinion about which album is better?

[DepthsOfDreams555]

No one is getting mad at him for the albums he likes. All the comment's on his opinions are just jokin around, I realize he can like what he likes, although I don't understand it and he doesn't really back his opinions up but w.e.

[The Crowing]

Aerosmith.

[The Crowing]

Casually Dressed and Deep In Conversation is much better than Hours haha. IMO of course but I still enjoy Hours but they changed there style sooo much it's hard to compare the two.



NO NO NO NO like I realize these are your opinions but I don't understand how you feel this way. WYWTB is by far their worst album.

Banging on pots and pans could sound amazing to someone. Its all about opinions.

[Mute Print]

Wow, what the hell? The kid has a different opinion on which TBS album is best, and it turns into a page worth of spam, flaming, and argument. Seriously guys, chill out.

Cameron really has improved his posting since he first joined the site. Who cares if he's only 13, and makes a few spam posts? The only difference between most of you guys and him is that he's a couple years younger. Not a single person in this forum can say that they never spam, because, in reality, the majority of the activity in here takes place in the discussion thread, which is pretty much all spam.

So, basically, everyone just chill out. People are allowed different opinions, and they're allowed to post without having to worry about being attacked. Everyone here is just trying to have fun and discuss music.

That's all that needs to be said on the subject. Any further discussion can take place in the community thread.
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Now, back to the discussion of bands that have improved with age.

[CommieCanada]

Thursday

[Dinosawesome]

Blasphemy, you cant say TAYF is Taking Back Sunday's worst album.
Can I say TAYF is TBS's least awesome album?

:p

[Concubine]

Finch

[skingle]

Fine, but i have done nothing wrong.

A band which has got better with age is Funeral For A Friend.

Urgh, no way!! haha.

Imo 7 Ways >>> Casually Dressed >>> Hours

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Hmm yea i was only joking about the TBS thing, i don't care which he likes best haha.

There was only one poster abusing him.

I'm cool with Cameron anyway.

Oh yeah, Coheed and Cambria have improved i think mainly.

[Bad Blood]

Yeah, Coheed are better now I think.

Cameron's cool, you should respect him for being a better poster than he was when he first started, he's a million times better than he used to be.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I can't remember what he was like at first.

IKSOSE3 is my favourite of theirs, but their newest is better than their first.

[Triangle]

Taking Back Sunday and Coheed for me. Both's recent albums have proved to have a better sound overall. (imo)

[Bad Blood]

I like TBS now more than I used to, but their new album only has about 3 good songs on.

[Triangle]

I prefer their new album to Tell All Your Friends. :cool:

[Kif]

I'll agree with whoever said Finch. Say Hello To Sunshine was my favourite album of 2005.

[Triangle]

Having said that, I think I prefer WYWTB (the first half) to LN. Madness.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Hmm, i just bought the SSTB re-issue, and now i think that their newest album is their worst.

[DepthsOfDreams555]

Yea SSTB is an amazing album.

[Pazz]

Wow, what the hell? The kid has a different opinion on which TBS album is best, and it turns into a page worth of spam, flaming, and argument. Seriously guys, chill out.

Cameron really has improved his posting since he first joined the site. Who cares if he's only 13, and makes a few spam posts? The only difference between most of you guys and him is that he's a couple years younger. Not a single person in this forum can say that they never spam, because, in reality, the majority of the activity in here takes place in the discussion thread, which is pretty much all spam.

So, basically, everyone just chill out. People are allowed different opinions, and they're allowed to post without having to worry about being attacked. Everyone here is just trying to have fun and discuss music.

That's all that needs to be said on the subject. Any further discussion can take place in the community thread.
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Now, back to the discussion of bands that have improved with age.

I'm sorry Brian, a majority of that was my fault.

And Cameron, I'm sorry man.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Everyone hug now.

No band i can think of, has improved after every album.

[cbmartinez]

Wow, what the hell? The kid has a different opinion on which TBS album is best, and it turns into a page worth of spam, flaming, and argument. Seriously guys, chill out.

Cameron really has improved his posting since he first joined the site. Who cares if he's only 13, and makes a few spam posts? The only difference between most of you guys and him is that he's a couple years younger. Not a single person in this forum can say that they never spam, because, in reality, the majority of the activity in here takes place in the discussion thread, which is pretty much all spam.

So, basically, everyone just chill out. People are allowed different opinions, and they're allowed to post without having to worry about being attacked. Everyone here is just trying to have fun and discuss music.

That's all that needs to be said on the subject. Any further discussion can take place in the community thread.
-

Now, back to the discussion of bands that have improved with age.

Wow, you guys act like prissy bitches sometimes. Sure that kid makes some stupid posts but you guys post in the community thread all day making posts just as pointless as that. Chill out. And all because he has a different opinion about which album is better?

...

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Yeah, you were first.

[Mute Print]

:p

I was just reiterating.

[cbmartinez]

Hahaha, all good. You're the mod after all. You got the authority.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I think this thread could be closed, it's gotten so off course now.

[Mute Print]

Alright, I'm going to close this, as the original topic has more or less been lost.

If anyone really sees the need for this to be reopened, let me know, but for now, I think it's better off closed.