Sexual behavior and genders

[Noku]

During the past single year I've been "used" by dozen or something of non-single girls and only a few single girls.

It's always the same script. They come to tell you how cute you are, then they start to tell about how bad it is going with their boyfriend and how they are going to leave him soon.

Now you have two options A) Don't care about her not being single, or B) Tell her to leave her boyfriend first... the option B) unfortunately seems to lead that next time you see her, she will tell again how bad it is going with her boyfriend... and this will keep on happening as long as it has to...

If you start to sympathise with her, eventually she will "accidently" forget how fast the time is flowing and end up staying at your place over the night... or somewhere else. Then she will make up some lame excuse to sleep next to you, again accidently she starts telling nasty jokes or something like that, and she is so "a shamed" of her behavior. Then it gets physical and you know the rest... probably.

Point being... the easiest pick-ups in bars and parties are the girls with bad relationships. When some girl comes to bash her bf for you, the rest is pretty obvious, or at least in my experience it has been. I don't like cheating, but they make it sound like "you wouldn't actually be cheating because I am already going to leave him" etc. Also, I like challenges, this is way too easy for me and it is a very bad turn-off.

I have some theories why this happens so often to me...

First of all, because guys don't really mind wether or not they are having sex with single or non-single girl it makes it easier for non-single girls to cheat... For example, I haven't even known beforehand that some of the girls were dating someone already... If guys would have more strict attitude about cheating, it would at least be slightly harder for the non-single girls.

Another thing is that girls might be affraid of letting go of bad relationship because being alone would be even worse. That is why they do the "seek-for-new-partner" before the relationship ends. The "ex" won't become ex before the girl has found something worth trying.

Third, when you are non-single, acting flirty is kind of easier because you don't have to be embarrased of with whom you flirt... you don't have to be "actually interested" because you already have a bf. While when you are single you don't have any excuses for flirting, unless you are playing some games with your friends (who gets the most free drinks or something...). Also the bias of complements would be that the complements of single girls would be more meaningful or personal, while non-single girl could just tell you that you have a nice hair cut and that's all, it doesn't have to be any more meaningful.

Of course this is very provocative text, but in my opinnion it might hold some truth. Also, I am not sure if this is gender related or not. Just some results of my field research :nasty:

[dustindow]

sooo.......what are you trying to say, whats your whole point?

That half of the girls with a bf are just teases playing games?

[BassRevelation1029]

hm, interesting. I knew some along those lines, but honestly didnt look that far into it.

How old are you by the way? I think whether or not you're in college or junior high would make a difference.

[MAthiAS]

pnwi?

[italic zero]

it's a noku thread. His threads are unique to the point that he should really just have a subforum of his own.

[dustindow]

it's a noku thread. His threads are unique to the point that he should really just have a subforum of his own.

I second that notion!

[Riva]

I have the solution: Keep it on your pants.

[StrangelyBrewed13]

i dont really see what you're trying to say...if YOU dont like it dont do it.:thumb:

[Mr. Ron]

I'd say women are more prone to cheat then men, actually.

[coheneran]

In answer to your dilemma of cheating, I look at it like this:

Monogamy is outdated, boring and constrictive. Polyamorous relationships are fun and more full of love, which is what it's all about anyway. If I wanted to **** someone who was in a relationship, I wouldn't do it unless they initiated it, out of respect for their choice of relationship.

Buggery. I don't agree with the paragraph I just wrote, but I'll leave it for your perusal. I'm gonna have to re-evaluate my views on relationships. Anyone know where I can read some Emma Goldman essays?

[Herbert]

A lady's input:

Girls like the security of a relationship. Someone to hold their hand and they just like to know someone is there for them.

However girls don't like being tied down. They are greedy, unsure of what they want and ALWAYS like attention.

My two cents.

[coheneran]

I never understood "the security" that is supposed to come with a relationship. I haven'y speculated much on it, and off the top of my head I can only think of the security of knowing that you have a fairly permanent person to bang.

[Herbert]

I never understood "the security" that is supposed to come with a relationship. I haven'y speculated much on it, and off the top of my head I can only think of the security of knowing that you have a fairly permanent person to bang.
It's the idea that you KNOW someone is there for you and you KNOW that they care about, otherwise you wouldn't be in the relationship.

[Mr. Ron]

In answer to your dilemma of cheating, I look at it like this:

Monogamy is outdated, boring and constrictive. Polyamorous relationships are fun and more full of love, which is what it's all about anyway. If I wanted to **** someone who was in a relationship, I wouldn't do it unless they initiated it, out of respect for their choice of relationship.

Buggery. I don't agree with the paragraph I just wrote, but I'll leave it for your perusal. I'm gonna have to re-evaluate my views on relationships. Anyone know where I can read some Emma Goldman essays?
I disagree with all of my heart. I believe that a couple can forge a relationship and love that 8 people cannot achieve together.

[Mr. Ron]

A lady's input:

Girls like the security of a relationship. Someone to hold their hand and they just like to know someone is there for them.

However girls don't like being tied down. They are greedy, unsure of what they want and ALWAYS like attention.

My two cents.
So are you saying that women flirt and act unloyal to their men when the chance arises?

[23-inch dude]

It's strange that girls steel want that feeling of security, you'd say in these modern days, they have everything they want, but it isn't...

I don't think that women cheat more then men, or men more then women,
I do know that it is a very natural thing

[-1up!-]

In answer to your dilemma of cheating, I look at it like this:

Monogamy is outdated, boring and constrictive. Polyamorous relationships are fun and more full of love, which is what it's all about anyway. If I wanted to **** someone who was in a relationship, I wouldn't do it unless they initiated it, out of respect for their choice of relationship.

Buggery. I don't agree with the paragraph I just wrote, but I'll leave it for your perusal. I'm gonna have to re-evaluate my views on relationships. Anyone know where I can read some Emma Goldman essays?

Interesting. I'd agree with this to some extent. Recently I've been thinking a bit about relations between males and females, and I've concluded that for me, love and sexual attraction are two separate, exclusive things. Example.

Let's say me and girl A go out together. A stable, loving, great relationship. I feel it would be okay for me to sleep with girl B, on some conditions: Girl A knows about it, and I allow her to do the same with other guys. In my eyes, cheating is overrated greatly, because love and sex are two different things. I'd adpot monogamy regarding love, but sex? I don't know. Sex is an instinctive desire while love is much more complex, and I can't see why sleeping with girl B (or C or D for that matter) would harm the love relationship between me and girl A, given that we both love each other exclusively. Love is commitment. Sex is great fun, no more.

I'm your postmodern kind of man. I actually doubt I'd find a postmodern girl with whom I could live that kind of relation, though... Ha.

Actually my last girlfriend was 1 year and a half ago and I haven't had sex since. Maybe I'm just in dire need of it. :eek:

[Herbert]

So are you saying that women flirt and act unloyal to their men when the chance arises?
Nope. It was a general statement. But in general, girls like a stable relationship but they also want fun and don't want to be tied down.

Notice I say girls. I'd say from about the age of 14-18 roughly :-/ But what doI know...

[Mr. Ron]

Nope. It was a general statement. But in general, girls like a stable relationship but they also want fun and don't want to be tied down.

Notice I say girls. I'd say from about the age of 14-18 roughly :-/ But what doI know...
What do you mean by "fun"?

[Herbert]

What do you mean by "fun"?
Doing different things, experimenting and all that jazz. No teenager wants to be stuck in a boring monotonous relationship.

[Mr. Ron]

Doing different things, experimenting and all that jazz. No teenager wants to be stuck in a boring monotonous relationship.
So, they want a relationship but they want to "experiment" at the same time?

I'm glad my girl and I are happy together....geez....

[Herbert]

So, they want a relationship but they want to "experiment" at the same time?

I'm glad my girl and I are happy together....geez....
Like I said it's a generalistation, but it's usually a mixed feeling of wanting to be in a relationship and not wanting to be tied down.

[Mr. Ron]

Like I said it's a generalistation, but it's usually a mixed feeling of wanting to be in a relationship and not wanting to be tied down.
Well, you can be in a relationship and not be "tied down". I mean, I let my GF hang out with her friends all the time (and most of them are guys) and I have no problem with it.

[Herbert]

Tied down as in actually officially being boyfriend and girlfriend.

[Mr. Ron]

Tied down as in actually officially being boyfriend and girlfriend.
Oh well thats retarded.

"Ummmm, I like, like you, but I want to do stuff with other guys".



"uh........what?"


Usually girls like that are indecisive sl00tz.

[Herbert]

Not neccessarily. Some girls just like knowing they have the freedom to flirt or kiss a guy without any strings attached or it being cheating. While at the same time they just want a relationship. It's not retarded, it's just mixed feelings.

[Mr. Ron]

Not neccessarily. Some girls just like knowing they have the freedom to flirt or kiss a guy without any strings attached or it being cheating. While at the same time they just want a relationship. It's not retarded, it's just mixed feelings.
Nah, thats pretty wrong. You're using the guy if you do that. It's very wrong in my book.


Monogamy is a wonderful thing. Especially if the couple trusts each other. Then they are free people but still together, knowing thier partner won't go off and flirt with other people.

[Herbert]

Nah, thats pretty wrong. You're using the guy if you do that. It's very wrong in my book.


Monogamy is a wonderful thing. Especially if the couple trusts each other. Then they are free people but still together, knowing thier partner won't go off and flirt with other people.
No you're not. You saying that in any relationship you've ever had you've never once thought 'I wonder what it would be like if I was with *insert name here' or 'If I was single...' or looked at another girl?

You can't control how you feel about things. It's not considered cheating if you look at another girl when you're in a relationship and it's not considered using if you just simply feel too tied down. It would be pretty naive to think think that people in a relationship never have any doubts.

[Mr. Ron]

No you're not. You saying that in any relationship you've ever had you've never once thought 'I wonder what it would be like if I was with *insert name here' or 'If I was single...' or looked at another girl?

You can't control how you feel about things. It's not considered cheating if you look at another girl when you're in a relationship and it's not considered using if you just simply feel too tied down. It would be pretty naive to think think that people in a relationship never have any doubts.
Oh, well everyone has THOUGHT of that stuff while in a relationship, but to act on it is totally wrong.

Plus, if you are to the point of where you feel too tied down and want to "have fun" or "experiment" with other people, then just end it!

[Herbert]

Oh, well everyone has THOUGHT of that stuff while in a relationship, but to act on it is totally wrong.

Plus, if you are to the point of where you feel too tied down and want to "have fun" or "experiment" with other people, then just end it!
It depends on how strong the feelings are I guess.

But yeah, thinking is not the crime here, the act is.

[-1up!-]

It really comes down to what works for two people within a relationship. If that sort of relatively open post-modern relationship works for two people in a relationship, then whatever...it's not something that I'd feel comfortable being in, but that's just my preference. Love and sexual attraction can definitely be two seperate things (how many men end up with people that are completely wrong for them in spite of the fact that they look good?), but for me you need both to be in a relationship for it to be something that I'd be particularly interested in.

I know the way I view things would not be accepted by many. I've always known I was a bit more open-minded and tolerant than the average person but I know I'm quite marginal on this issue. Though I never said I'd engage in a loving relationships without both elements (love and sexual attraction). Like you agreed, both elements are separate, and I think it is very possible to have sexual relationships with no feelings attached, thus leaving the "legitimate", loving relationship unscathed.

[Steerpike]

A monogamous relationship can be nice, but only if that's what both people want. I once spoke to a couple who have an open relationship, and they sounded perfectly happy with each other.

It aggravates me when I hear people saying that monogamy (which is actually an artifical institution and does not exist among mammals in nature) is the only way. That's an outright lie.

The reasons a lot of people cheat vary. For some, it's spite. For others it's the liberating feeling they get. Still others believe that sex and love are not inseparably connected. Some don't get the excitement they crave in their current relationship.

Some reasons are the wrong ones, others are acceptable.

To go back to the threadstarter's original point, it seems to me as if our culture (for all the political buzzword **** about the sanctity of marriage) is actually reinforcing monogamy to the point of actually doing it harm.

Women are bombarded with images in the media of the heroine meeting her Prince Charming. They face constant pressure from family to settle down with a "nice young man." And yet they are also presented the "bad boys" as sex symbols and idols. Hell, I'd be confused too!

The result is that a lot of women end up feeling like a relationship is an essential part of their life. They feel inadequate if they're not in one because that's the stigma they think will be attached to them. It's patently false, but it doesn't matter.

On top of that, women attract mates through signs of fertility, hence the intense competition between women to look better than the next. Men lucked out in evolution in that we attract mates through personality. Men don't need to rush. Women aren't so lucky because fertility only lasts so long.

Naturally, this is all generalization, but it does have a basis in truth.

Now, put all this together, and it's easy to see why women begin shopping around the instant they see that their relationship is turning sour. They want to lasso a guy in to be committed to them the instant she breaks up with her current boyfriend, and because of society's views today we end up believing that the fastest way to make someone committed to you is to sleep with them. Then they end up feeling like they owe you something.

Come to think of it, that's probably why prostitution is illegal. It destroys the Puritan convention than sex is a chore only to be done between man and wife, and that it shouldn't be enjoyable.

[-1up!-]

There could be a whole debate on "are sex and love inseparably connected, or two distinct elements?"

/wonders if it deserves a thread

[peeted]

women are naturaly driven to have more partners believe it or not, in most animals on the planet females dont stick to life partners even in the species were the males do.

any way keep it in your pants, if you know someones got a boyfreind and you still pull em then you need shooting! sounds like you are going at it all the wrong way and geting to woried any way, just chill a bit.

allso why the hell is this in this subforum?

[-1up!-]

It's in here because the only suitable place for this would be the Love/Relationships thread in the Pit. And like... it's an established thread, we can't just barge in and start a new topic.

Or just because it's the only place in emex where there can be intelligent discussion not about music.

[coheneran]

That's a shame. :-/ I find that a meaningful relationship is basically about the idea that you've got someone who is going to be there for you, and who feels the same way about you that you do about them. It's not about guaranteed sex in my opinion, it's about the guaranteed presence of the other person, although that's just my take on it.

You are describing an aspect friendship, no?

[coheneran]

It would quite a brief thread, wouldn't it? Quite clearly the two aren't inseparably connected since most people will probably have a sexual relationship at some stage in their life with no real love attached to it. Even if it's just for one night, the criteria showing that they are two different things are met.



I can't say that I've ever heard that phrase before.

Damn, I meant aspect of friendship, sorry. I'm having a hectic day, please excuse any completely obvious mistakes and inconsistencies,

[PerpetualBurn]

I can't see how you can love several people without having a much more lenient definition of love than I do. If somone's really that special to you, I don't see how there'd be enough hours in the day to have several people that special.

[Steerpike]

If that's the case, I don't know how people with more than one child ever find any time to do anything else.

[Mr. Ron]

Meh, I think the idea of a relationship is cheapened once shared with many people.

[Steerpike]

Meh, I think the idea of a relationship is cheapened once shared with many people.

Again, a man-made concept.

A relationship has no value whatsoever except for that which you place upon your own.

[Mr. Ron]

Again, a man-made concept.

A relationship has no value whatsoever except for that which you place upon your own.
I think relationships are natural to humans. We all need to be taken care of and loved.

[Steerpike]

I think relationships are natural to humans. We all need to be taken care of and loved.

It sounds to me as if you're trying to crash relationships together into one idealized definition. You make it sound as if we can't exist without a significant other.

The truth is it's not polyamory that cheapens relationships. It's when people can't even live up to their own expectations. I fail to see how an open marriage is in the same league as a guy who ritualistically abuses his girlfriend.

And honestly, I'll bet money you can't tell me any single way that someone else's relationship has any impact on your own.

[FunkMetalBass]

I never understood "the security" that is supposed to come with a relationship. I haven'y speculated much on it, and off the top of my head I can only think of the security of knowing that you have a fairly permanent person to bang.

My girlfriend will be a black-belt in karate fairly soon here, and she has already proven to me that she can kick my ***. So, I don't think the idea of "security" is physical so much as it is emotional

[FunkMetalBass]

A relationship has no value whatsoever except for that which you place upon your own.

I really like that definition of it. I have to write that down.

[-1up!-]

My girlfriend will be a black-belt in karate fairly soon here, and she has already proven to me that she can kick my ***. So, I don't think the idea of "security" is physical so much as it is emotional

Except you're off topic and few wish to engage in a relationship to have physical security...

Some people buy a gun for that. :/

[RandyfromPennywise]

I have the solution: Keep it on your pants.
Oh God, is Riva's the worst avatar I have ever seen? Yeah, it is.

[RandyfromPennywise]

Ah, I see. Well, on one level the girl that I'm with is one of my two closest friends. But obviously there's a dimension to our relationship that is above and beyond that which I have with my other closest friend, who happens to be a guy. Obviously what I said is just one aspect of the relationship, but it's one that I personally think is important in any relationship that I'd want to be in. Other people want different things from any relationships that they're in and I really couldn't care less about that, but I wouldn't really want to date someone who wasn't also a friend of mine in her own right.
Yeah, pretty much agree totally. Any relationship ('dating' if you must), for me, will be above and beyond a friendship, but fundamentally a friendship as well. I've got some really close friends, friends I've been close to for many years, but we would never share a relationship like that I would with a girl I was "going out with", largely because of the physical and emotional closeness. The bond in a "relationship" is (should be!) a friendship, but also more than that, obviously.

/off topic?

[Danger Bird]

First of all, because guys don't really mind wether or not they are having sex with single or non-single girl it makes it easier for non-single girls to cheat...
Maybe you don't, but I definately have a problem with that and would never sleep with a girl who already had a boyfriend. It sounds to me like you're just trying to justify your own disgusting behaviour.

[Noku]

Maybe you don't, but I definately have a problem with that and would never sleep with a girl who already had a boyfriend. It sounds to me like you're just trying to justify your own disgusting behaviour.

My point was that if I meet a flirting girl in a bar, I assume she is single. However, most of the flirting girls seem to be non-single.

[I feel Like a Hat]

Oh, well everyone has THOUGHT of that stuff while in a relationship, but to act on it is totally wrong.

Plus, if you are to the point of where you feel too tied down and want to "have fun" or "experiment" with other people, then just end it!
its like you have the idea that if two people like eachother then they either need to immediately jump into a comitted, exclusive relationship or have nothing at all.


why?

[holy_roller99]

my buddy is having a problem. this girl he likes wants to go out with him and he wants to out with her but she keeps saying she needs time to think and after that she tries to go out with other guys. i confronted her about this and she told me it was sweet that he was waiting after i told her the truth that he was getting tired of waiting. before this he has only had two girlfreinds: both of which have cheated on him. i cant help but feel sorry for him. women have no idea what they want.

[Noku]

Italic and dust... thanks I guess :p

Anyway, I've tried to write a long post to solve this all two times already but I get logged out which bugs the browser...

My theory is this:

I was wrong about that girls in bad relationship tend to behave flirtious. Like Herbert said, the girls problem in relationship is the balance between commitment and "not being tied down". In my opinnion this has a strong biological background. In survival of the fittest, the most important role of the female is the choice. In monogomal society some males deny womens right of putting themselves in competition with other possible partners. This leads to situation where woman arranges these "competitions" behind his back, which is bad for him because he won't be having a chance to respond to the re-evaluation of his position.

Fliriting behavior of single girls is more hidden and shallow because their social status is determined by the flirt, not their partner (because there is none). The ideal situation for single girl would be the "alpha male" appearing out of nothing in front of her girl mates and "picking" her. The worst case scenario would be a failed flirt seen by other girls.

I am willing to back up some of my arguments if you have some clever questions, I just can't provide enough background in this post because of the stupid internet problem...

[Amit]

I have the solution: Keep it on your pants.

This sounds like the most feasible and practical solution.

[holy_roller99]

that actually is the most prominent cause of Blue Balls

[I feel Like a Hat]

my buddy is having a problem. this girl he likes wants to go out with him and he wants to out with her but she keeps saying she needs time to think and after that she tries to go out with other guys. i confronted her about this and she told me it was sweet that he was waiting after i told her the truth that he was getting tired of waiting. before this he has only had two girlfreinds: both of which have cheated on him. i cant help but feel sorry for him. women have no idea what they want.
you friend needs to stop being a pussy. it has nothing to do with women not knowing what they want, it's just the fact that the way hes behaving is sooooo unnattractive and lame.

[holy_roller99]

you idiot. the guy has tried and failed multiple times. he also has other problems - like finding a home. it is not his fault, he is just getting f'ucked around.

[I feel Like a Hat]

i'm not insulting him. i'm not even talking about him. i'm talking about his actions and his behavior.


right now she controls pretty much everything about what their relationship is and what it can be. he has NO COMPLIANCE from her

he's waiting for her. she can do whatever she wants he's willing to be stung along. HE'S TO ATTAINABLE.

and he has NO ****ING VALUE its seems. there are 3 billion guys like him. whats special about him.

without some value, and a good balance of attainability and compliance there's not going to be any attraction


this is sooooo off topic

[Danger Bird]

My point was that if I meet a flirting girl in a bar, I assume she is single. However, most of the flirting girls seem to be non-single.
So that allows you to make broad sexist generalizations about the entire female population, not to mention still sleep with that girl.

[Steerpike]

my buddy is having a problem. this girl he likes wants to go out with him and he wants to out with her but she keeps saying she needs time to think and after that she tries to go out with other guys. i confronted her about this and she told me it was sweet that he was waiting after i told her the truth that he was getting tired of waiting. before this he has only had two girlfreinds: both of which have cheated on him. i cant help but feel sorry for him. women have no idea what they want.

This brings up another reason why women cheat. It's not that women don't know what they want, it's that most men have absolutely no clue what women want.

If you're in a relatioship with a woman, if you are her boyfriend, then act like her boyfriend. Not her girlfriend, not her best friend, and certainly not like perfectly trained puppy.

[Mr. Ron]

This brings up another reason why women cheat. It's not that women don't know what they want, it's that most men have absolutely no clue what women want.

If you're in a relatioship with a woman, if you are her boyfriend, then act like her boyfriend. Not her girlfriend, not her best friend, and certainly not like perfectly trained puppy.
Exactly.

[Mr. Ron]

its like you have the idea that if two people like eachother then they either need to immediately jump into a comitted, exclusive relationship or have nothing at all.


why?
I never said that. But if the relationship has been going on for a while, I think they need to commit to each other. Otherwise, why even be together? People are too scared of commitment.

[Shell]

I never said that. But if the relationship has been going on for a while, I think they need to commit to each other. Otherwise, why even be together? People are too scared of commitment.

I think the biggest thing is just finding someone who agrees with your outlook on how a relationship should be. (I don't necessarily mean YOU specifically, but people in general.)

For instance - I think that it's pointless to date casually. If I'm dating someone, it's because I know them very well, I think they have potential to make me happy for a very long time, and I want to be in a committed relationship with that person. Therefore - the person who is compatible with me is one who also wants a long-term commitment.

If Suzy over here thinks it's fine to have more than one boyfriend, none of whom she wants to be seriously involved with... then the person who will meet her needs is most likely one who shares her same outlook. Who's right and who's wrong doesn't really matter, unless Suzy tries to step into my territory. :P

[coheneran]

So that allows you to make broad sexist generalizations about the entire female population, not to mention still sleep with that girl.

Surely if she wanted to ****, he has no right to question her reasons for it. She's a fully (or partially, I don't know the age ranges involved) grown woman who can make her own decisions, and if he's in a bar flirting with a stranger, he's probably looking for a ****, not a relationship, and so is she. The decisions she makes about her own relationship shouldn't apply to sex with strangers.

[Noku]

So that allows you to make broad sexist generalizations about the entire female population, not to mention still sleep with that girl.

Am I responsible to find out the single status of a flirting girl in a bar? Even when she lies or tells me half-truths?

You know, I am not that bad of a guy... if I get to know that she isn't single before it is too late, I tend to give her very selfish and bad sex. Well, used to... now days I don't do much non-single girls.

What comes to my sexist generalizations, in my personal experience it seems to be well founded... I am not saying that this is stereotypical behavior of women but that it might have some sort of hormonal background.

Commitment = Security * Partner vs. Potential Partner... maybe?

[DBoons Ghost]

I understand what Noku is saying.

I cannot freely give myself to every broad who crosses my path with a sob story.

Now that I'm single, and being that I am 34, the first thing I noticed is the divorcee pity ploy I could use. I don't though.

Problem for me is, at this stage of the game, being single and hanging out in bars and clubs, chicks want to bang first and get to know you later. I cannot do this, so I don't. I did quite a bit after my wife first left me, and I closed out that chapter in Vegas when I was there in May. I don't like it one bit.

Truth be told, even as an older still horny man, is there is nothing to gain from strange casual sex scenarios. Although I'm a generation away from you guys, I felt the same way when I was younger. I still do. However, the wrong conversation coupled with too much booze leads to waking up next to someone you don't know. Then you remember what happened and it's a giant sigh.

I feel as though every time I have strange casual sex I left a little piece of my soul where I didn't want it. So I leave it in my pants. Beat off for pete's sake. It's cheaper and safer, and less emotionally scarring. Unless you have no conscious, or you feel as though your ego requires you to pad the numbers and make many notches in that belt.

[Noku]

Yeah, I totally agree with DBoon's Ghost. But well... I'd be interested if you guys consider it to be true that non-single people tend to flirt more and if there is a gender spesific correlation?

I believe that everyone can agree with me that meaningless sex is just meaningless sex...

EDIT: And by the way, I am university/college student

[White Riot!]

I believe that everyone can agree with me that meaningless sex is just meaningless sex...


No s.hit sherlock!


It doesnt take einstein to figure out that if a girl is ready to screw you on the first meet , thats probably all she is interested in.

Just shrug it off man - if you cant handle the emotions of a casual screw dont get involved in them its as simple as that :thumb: