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Reaganista
06-11-2006, 03:23 PM
It's not unhealthy, it's just un Christ-like.
I thought Jesus was 100% man

so he either jacked off or had wet dreams

why is one godly and the other immoral?

Iskandar
06-11-2006, 03:24 PM
There aren't any. But God makes clear that He gave you sperm to procreate, and that if you use them outside of marriage, it's wrong.
It's not using them, it's effectively wasting them. However, God/nature also gave us an unlimitied supply. I don't see the problem.

But here's the bottom line: Do you think that Jesus masturbated? I don't. And, we're supposed to be Christ like in our life style. I don't see how that involves masturbation.
Well, there are ways of interpreting that. Did Christ avoid masturbation because he thought it was wrong, or because he had more important things to do? Did he even avoid it at all? They're just assumptions and speculation.

I'd rather devote more time to following His concrete examples, if I were a Christian, than following my own speculation.

coheneran
06-11-2006, 03:24 PM
Some Christians don't think masturbation is wrong. And not just pseudo Christians, some Bible believing people believe that. Hey, maybe they're right. It's one thing that I won't say for 100% certain. But here's the bottom line: Do you think that Jesus masturbated? I don't. And, we're supposed to be Christ like in our life style. I don't see how that involves masturbation.

Does being Christ-like involve self-sacrifice and visiting hookers, as well as making socialist demands of bosses and landlords?

Amit
06-11-2006, 03:24 PM
I thought Jesus was 100% man

so he either jacked off or had wet dreams

why is one godly and the other immoral?

Wet dreams were like some kind of kinky baptism for Jesus's sheets.

Reaganista
06-11-2006, 03:25 PM
haha

Iskandar
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
Does being Christ-like involve self-sacrifice and visiting hookers, as well as making socialist demands of bosses and landlords?
If so, then this Christianity thing doesn't sound half bad. :p

Reaganista
06-11-2006, 03:26 PM
apparently there's drinking involved, too.

Amit
06-11-2006, 03:27 PM
i'm game \m/

where do we sign up

Hababi
06-11-2006, 03:27 PM
so he either jacked off or had wet dreams

why is one godly and the other immoral?


One's intentional, the other isn't. Biologically speaking, he probably did release. Not intentionally, though.


Why is it that the freakiest porn and fetishes are found in one of the most sexually repressed countries (America)?


They're found everywhere. People just have more opportunity to pursue them here in America. Well, and Sweden.


How can you talk about something so complex as sex without even going to third base?


The same way you can talk about anything without having personally experienced it.

Iskandar
06-11-2006, 03:28 PM
The same way you can talk about anything without having personally experienced it.
But it's always better to have personal experience before talking about something.

Amit
06-11-2006, 03:29 PM
The same way you can talk about anything without having personally experienced it.

Let's talk about your first time, then.

coheneran
06-11-2006, 03:30 PM
I don't think America is more sexually repressed than most countries.

Hababi
06-11-2006, 03:31 PM
It's not using them, it's effectively wasting them. However, God/nature also gave us an unlimitied supply. I don't see the problem.


He gave us an unlimited supply but a clear purpose for them, and that isn't for them to reach your hand :p


Well, there are ways of interpreting that. Did Christ avoid masturbation because he thought it was wrong, or because he had more important things to do? Did he even avoid it at all? They're just assumptions and speculation.


Sure, it's possible. But He took time out to drink wine, even though that wasn't essential to His mission. So, I would think that if masturbation was ok, He would've done so. But I just don't think that that was the case. Speculation? Sure, but I think I'm on solid ground with it.


I'd rather devote more time to following His concrete examples, if I were a Christian, than following my own speculation.


I'd do both :p

Atomic Rain
06-11-2006, 03:31 PM
There aren't any. But God makes clear that He gave you sperm to procreate, and that if you use them outside of marriage, it's wrong.

Some Christians don't think masturbation is wrong. And not just pseudo Christians, some Bible believing people believe that. Hey, maybe they're right. It's one thing that I won't say for 100% certain. But here's the bottom line: Do you think that Jesus masturbated? I don't. And, we're supposed to be Christ like in our life style. I don't see how that involves masturbation.

No need, he had his whore.

Reaganista
06-11-2006, 03:33 PM
One's intentional, the other isn't. Biologically speaking, he probably did release. Not intentionally, though.
are laxatives immoral?

in is it only semen that's satanic?

Hababi
06-11-2006, 03:33 PM
But it's always better to have personal experience before talking about something.


Not particularly. I don't want experience life in sub Saharan Africa, but I'll still talk about it, from what I read. You'll talk about Communism even though you've never lived under Communism. If we limited ourselves to conversing about only what we have personally experienced, we'd have quite a narrow range of topics to discuss.

Atomic Rain
06-11-2006, 03:34 PM
He gave us an unlimited supply but a clear purpose for them, and that isn't for them to reach your hand :p



Sure, it's possible. But He took time out to drink wine, even though that wasn't essential to His mission. So, I would think that if masturbation was ok, He would've done so. But I just don't think that that was the case. Speculation? Sure, but I think I'm on solid ground with it.


believers like you wrote the bible.

you really think the people who can't even accept he was concieved would a. Know about his night-time habits and b. Write them in a book of his life if they did?

Come now, if you were biographing someone, that's not somehting you'd put in.

Iskandar
06-11-2006, 03:35 PM
I don't think America is more sexually repressed than most countries.
Depends on the state.
So, I would think that if masturbation was ok, He would've done so. But I just don't think that that was the case.
Well, far from every detail of His life was recorded; and since it's the Bible, not Ulysses, I doubt anyone would have recorded it if He had masturbated. :p It's hardly essential to His message whether He did or not.

coheneran
06-11-2006, 03:35 PM
are laxatives immoral?

in is it only semen that's satanic?

On that note, is it okay for females to masturbate? They don't waste any eggs.

Atomic Rain
06-11-2006, 03:36 PM
are laxatives immoral?

in is it only semen that's satanic?

Urine has a clear purpose; to be flushed away.

To "let the yellow mellow" is not SPECIFICALLY a sin, but I doubt Jesus did it and it's probably not a good idea.

Iskandar
06-11-2006, 03:38 PM
Not particularly. I don't want experience life in sub Saharan Africa, but I'll still talk about it, from what I read. You'll talk about Communism even though you've never lived under Communism. If we limited ourselves to conversing about only what we have personally experienced, we'd have quite a narrow range of topics to discuss.
I don't mean we shouldn't talk about things we haven't experienced; just that it's better to have firsthand knowledge.

Atomic Rain
06-11-2006, 03:39 PM
I don't mean we shouldn't talk about things we haven't experienced; just that it's better to have firsthand knowledge.

eg;

It's not ok to discuss africa, but if an african was on here, we would hold their opinion in higher regard than our own.

Iskandar
06-11-2006, 03:40 PM
eg;

It's not ok to discuss africa, but if an african was on here, we would hold their opinion in higher regard than our own.
You mean it's ok to, right? If so I definitely agree.

Hababi
06-11-2006, 03:40 PM
Well, far from every detail of His life was recorded; and since it's the Bible, not Ulysses, I doubt anyone would have recorded it if He had masturbated.


:lol: Oh, I agree with you there, but here's the thing: do you honestly think he masturbated? Can you picture the Son of God choking the chicken? I can't :p


It's not ok to discuss africa, but if an african was on here


Not if they were extolling Idi Amin, or the South African apartheid.

Atomic Rain
06-11-2006, 03:41 PM
:lol: Oh, I agree with you there, but here's the thing: do you honestly think he masturbated? Can you picture the Son of God choking the chicken? I can't :p

That's because you've never met him.

Hababi
06-11-2006, 03:43 PM
That's because you've never met him.


Let's take a modern day example: Do you think Pope John Paul II masturbated? I don't.

No, I never met him, either. But I saw him on tv :p

coheneran
06-11-2006, 03:45 PM
Did anyone see the Family Guy Movie? Apparantly Jesus's powers were exaggurated.

coheneran
06-11-2006, 03:45 PM
Let's take a modern day example: Do you think Pope John Paul II masturbated? I don't.

ARE YOU COMPARING THE POPE TO OUR LORD JESUS?

Lol.

Atomic Rain
06-11-2006, 03:49 PM
You mean it's ok to, right? If so I definitely agree.

yes, sorry.

That's exactly what i mean.

It is ok to discuss africa, but the african's opinion is the one which should be given most weight.

Atomic Rain
06-11-2006, 03:50 PM
Let's take a modern day example: Do you think Pope John Paul II masturbated? I don't.

No, I never met him, either. But I saw him on tv :p

No way! He came after 2000 years of corruption, major dogma, etc.

You say "what would jesus do", but jesus was a major liberal revolutionary

he'd **** for freedom, baby!

coheneran
06-11-2006, 03:52 PM
he'd **** for freedom, baby!

:lol:

blockhead
06-11-2006, 03:55 PM
I don't see it as too much of a problem. I think that it's fine for them to express their opinion, because you know, free speech and all. If the information gets too personal, such as addresses and phone numbers being posted, then it becomes a problem. But I don't think that should cause the site to be shut down, but should be dealed with on an individual basis and that info should be removed. Perhaps a censoring system could be developed to take out seven digit numbers?

Anyway, if someone was going to use an ex-girlfriend's obviously biased opinion without getting to know me, then I don't think I'd want to date them and I would be thankful to not have to deal with it. The site could be used as a useful tool if the women reading it understood the opinion was biased and took with a grain of salt. In conclusion, I say let it stay open.

Knifeboy
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
Not ejaculating regulary lowers your sperm count

coheneran
06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
I don't see it as too much of a problem. I think that it's fine for them to express their opinion, because you know, free speech and all. If the information gets too personal, such as addresses and phone numbers being posted, then it becomes a problem. But I don't think that should cause the site to be shut down, but should be dealed with on an individual basis and that info should be removed. Perhaps a censoring system could be developed to take out seven digit numbers?

Anyway, if someone was going to use an ex-girlfriend's obviously biased opinion without getting to know me, then I don't think I'd want to date them and I would be thankful to not have to deal with it. The site could be used as a useful tool if the women reading it understood the opinion was biased and took with a grain of salt. In conclusion, I say let it stay open.

Lol, it took me a while to figure out what you were on about.

Amit
06-11-2006, 04:03 PM
Lol, it took me a while to figure out what you were on about.

The original topic??!?

:eek:

coheneran
06-11-2006, 04:04 PM
Yeah.

Atomic Rain
06-11-2006, 04:06 PM
The original topic??!?

:eek:

SHHH!!

someone might hear you

neal_672
06-11-2006, 04:34 PM
The original topic??!?

:eek:

Surely not?

:lol:

Cain
06-11-2006, 05:38 PM
There aren't any. But God makes clear that He gave you sperm to procreate, and that if you use them outside of marriage, it's wrong.

Some Christians don't think masturbation is wrong. And not just pseudo Christians, some Bible believing people believe that. Hey, maybe they're right. It's one thing that I won't say for 100% certain. But here's the bottom line: Do you think that Jesus masturbated? I don't. And, we're supposed to be Christ like in our life style. I don't see how that involves masturbation.

If Jesus didn't masturbate why aren't his wet dreams in the Bible?

EDIT: This post is totally irrelevant. Hooray.

nowhesingsnowhesobs
06-11-2006, 05:55 PM
And, we're supposed to be Christ like in our life style.Abandon your family and possessions and go off preaching?

coheneran
06-11-2006, 06:07 PM
You mean be like Gandhi, Guevara, Mao, Goldman, Malcolm X, Bill Hicks etc.?

PerpetualBurn
06-11-2006, 06:33 PM
t isn't necessarily unhealthy (there's actually a study out saying that men who masturbate regularly reduce their risk of pancreas cancer), it just doesn't match up with Christian morals

Prostate cancer.

Amazing how someone that denies evolution knows so little about the human body...

Iskandar
06-11-2006, 06:44 PM
:lol: Oh, I agree with you there, but here's the thing: do you honestly think he masturbated? Can you picture the Son of God choking the chicken? I can't :p
I'd assume He was too busy healing and getting loaded, but I don't see why No, but there's no way of knowing; so I vote to just go with one's own opinion of masturbation without being influenced by religion.

PerpetualBurn
06-11-2006, 06:48 PM
Jesus loved his sex, drugs, and rock and roll years. Banging prostitutes, turning the towns water supply into wine. Getting into fights in temples.

A great role-model for all the kids.

coheneran
06-11-2006, 06:49 PM
Jesus loved his sex, drugs, and rock and roll years. Banging prostitutes, turning the towns water supply into wine. Getting into fights in temples.

A great role-model for all the kids.

Never saw it like that...

\m/

PerpetualBurn
06-11-2006, 06:50 PM
Jesus was my favourite fictional superhero. Him and spiderman.

My Jesus sense detects blasphemy!

coheneran
06-11-2006, 06:51 PM
My Jesus sense detects blasphemy!

:lol::lol::lol:

You crack me up.

PerpetualBurn
06-11-2006, 06:53 PM
Well, I'm slightly intoxicated. Magnet ftw.

coheneran
06-11-2006, 06:55 PM
Yorkshiremen are funny when drunk, 'tis true.

PerpetualBurn
06-11-2006, 06:57 PM
Not drunk...just loose. Hence the efficient typing.

Reaganista
06-11-2006, 07:37 PM
Urine has a clear purpose; to be flushed away.

flushing urine is actually a pretty recent thing

believe it or not, people used to just take a piss

coheneran
06-11-2006, 07:43 PM
Toilets are blasphemy!

Iskandar
06-11-2006, 07:45 PM
Toilets are blasphemy!
Anything scientific is.

coheneran
06-11-2006, 07:49 PM
They thought Galileo was a heretic! I'll show them! I'll show them all!

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

/Hugs teddy.

Atomic Rain
06-12-2006, 09:57 AM
Jesus was my favourite fictional superhero. Him and spiderman.

My Jesus sense detects blasphemy!

:lol:

spitfirejunky
06-12-2006, 04:12 PM
Wet dreams were like some kind of kinky baptism for Jesus's sheets.

:lol:

:smash:

coheneran
06-12-2006, 04:15 PM
I wonder if Baby Jesus approves of facial cumshots.

griftadan
06-12-2006, 04:19 PM
i bet he shot a 22-roper

DBoons Ghost
06-12-2006, 05:00 PM
I tried to read this thread.

I really did.

It's just.. sad.

Jude
06-12-2006, 05:19 PM
This thread spiraled out of control, but awesomely.

DBoons Ghost
06-12-2006, 06:25 PM
Depends on perspective I suppose eh Jude?