Most important metal albums

[italic zero]

in terms of influence and innovation

Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Death - Scream Bloody Gore


What else?

[Shattered_Future]

I'm not sure if I've seen one of these before...

Iron Maiden - The Number Of The Beast. Contains the epic track Hallowed Be Thy Name, which is widely regarded as one of the best metal songs ever written.

My Dying Bride - The Angel And The Dark River. One of the pioneering albums in the death/doom field.

[Hourglass]

id say metallica MoP just because they're such a popular band that it really must have influenced quite alot of people!!

[Steerpike]

Judas Priest's Painkiller was a defining moment in speed metal.

Candlemass also had a very influential album in Nightfall, which was a huge step for the doom genre.

The Keeper of the Seven Keys albums from Helloween were also very important to the development of power metal, along with Holy Diver by Dio.

It would be a crime not to mention To Mega Therion by Celtic Frost. That album was one of the most important in the early years of extreme metal.

[Lord Abortion]

Mayhem-Di Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Iron Maiden-Piece of Mind
Posessed-Seven Churches

Alongside the ones Alex said.

[xNerox]

black sabbath- black sabbath(duh)
iron maiden - number of the beast
slayer - reign in blood
death - scream bloody gore
emperor - in the nightside eclipse

[heavy metal kid]

Piece of Time by Atheist was somehow innovating, Jazz+Thrash+Death at the begining.

Scum by Napalm Death helped in the development of Grindcore.

Master of Puppets, it was nothing special or innovating but it did influence a ****load of metal bands.

Black Metal by Venom was a big influence in the development of Thrash and Heavy Metal.

[Endless Obsession]

Killswitch Engage - Alive or Just Breathing
This album was very important in the evolution of the NWOAHM. It was the first of its kind and did a great job of combining thrash, hardcore, and good clean melodies.

[Lord Abortion]

Killswitch Engage - Alive or Just Breathing
This album was very important in the evolution of the NWOAHM. It was the first of its kind and did a great job of combining thrash, hardcore, and good clean melodies.
Now I know who to blame!
Them and In Flames

/writes them down on "to be gunned down" list.

[alexmonty12]

I think "Roots" by Sepultura played it's part, although not at the top of the list, it's there

edit: and maybe Machine Head - Burn My Eyes too

[i am the robots]

In Flames - The Jester Race
At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul

[heavy metal kid]

Melissa by Mercyful Fate was, believe or not, a big influence on thrash, black metal, technical, progressive, speed and neo classical metal.

Suicidal Tendencies debut album was imo innovating, the mix of funk, hardcore, thrash made it somehow innovating.

[Tyler]

I think "Roots" by Sepultura played it's part, although not at the top of the list, it's there
Chaos AD was probably the more influential Sepultura album, Roots just experimented with the style of Chaos AD as sort of a base.

[Tyler]

Melissa by Mercyful Fate was, believe or not, a big influence on thrash, black metal, technical, progressive, speed and neo classical metal.

Suicidal Tendencies debut album was imo innovating, the mix of funk, hardcore, thrash made it somehow innovating.
Funk? You sure?

[alexmonty12]

Chaos AD was probably the more influential Sepultura album, Roots just experimented with the style of Chaos AD as sort of a base.in my personal opinion, although many may disagree with me, I think that Roots was generally more influential than Chaos AD. I say "Sepultura" and the everyone else seems to say "Roots". You may be right though, what's everyone else think?

[heavy metal kid]

Funk? You sure?

yes, funk. If you check other thrash/hardcore albums they don't have the same rythmn sensation as this, it isn't like 100% funk, but it did have some elements(they later developed more funky rythmns).

[i am the robots]

Suicidal Tendencies debut album was imo innovating, the mix of funk, hardcore, thrash made it somehow innovating.

That album's almost completely hardcore with moderate thrash influences...

[Lord Abortion]

Melissa by Mercyful Fate was, believe or not, a big influence on thrash, black metal, technical, progressive, speed and neo classical metal.
It most certainly was, give Don't break the oath some credit too.

of course

Bathory-Blood fire death, Hammerheart, Under the sign of the black mark...take your pick!

[sjada]

Definitly Number of the Beast by Iron Maiden. Maybe Ace of Spades or something else by Motorhead

[DBoons Ghost]

No mention of Motorhead anywhere?

No mention of Rainbow?

For shame! And you call yourselves metalheads!

[Joe]

Most important as in most influential? or best?

Most influential? You've gotta have Paranoidd on that list and Master of Puppets. But best? I don't know.

[heavy metal kid]

It most certainly was, give Don't break the oath some credit too.


Don't Break the Oath is an awesome album, as everything Mercyful Fate does, but in terms of innovation and influence Melissa is more important.

[sjada]

No mention of Motorhead anywhere?

No mention of Rainbow?

For shame! And you call yourselves metalheads!
Like I just said, Ace of Spades

[DBoons Ghost]

Like I just said, Ace of Spades


We may have posted at the same time..

Good job.

To me, if the threadstarter is looking for most innovative, that means how one single album affected an entire genre of metal, or gave it a new branch in the continuing evolution of metal as a whole.

So lemme ask.. What do you guys think spawned nu-metal? Can we blame Biohazard or Anthrax for planting the hip hop seeds? Or do we go back farther and blame Run DMC and Aerosmith?

Important albums? That list is endless!

[heavy metal kid]

No mention of Rainbow?


As a direct influence of Metal, i would say Rising is the most important, i did help a lot of progressive and Power Metal bands to create their sound.

About the nu metal thing, it should stop at Anthrax, he said most important Metal album, Run DMC and Aerosmith aren't metal.

[DBoons Ghost]

As a direct influence of Metal, i would say Rising is the most important, i did help a lot of progressive and Power Metal bands to create their sound.

Yes, and gave some creedence to the "guitar virtuoso". Without Blackmore, among others, how long would it have been before someone though to do that?

Randy Rhoads loved Blackmore, and Malmsteen lists him as his main influence.

[DBoons Ghost]

Yeah I was tryin to hijack with the nu-metal question.

Carry on. Another thread mayhaps.

[Lord Abortion]

Although I am not denying their massive influence, the T/S does state metal bands, which Rainbow are not.
However, I'm being pedantic.

[Tyler]

yes, funk. If you check other thrash/hardcore albums they don't have the same rythmn sensation as this, it isn't like 100% funk, but it did have some elements(they later developed more funky rythmns).
Ehh, I wouldn't say groove/mosh parts constitute funk...either way, ****ing sweet record.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EhYcb1eW1o&search=institutionalized

oh yeah.

[heavy metal kid]

Although I am not denying their massive influence, the T/S does state metal bands, which Rainbow are not.
However, I'm being pedantic.

Well, if Black Sabbath(album) is considered Metal, i don't see why Rising isn't.

[Lord Abortion]

Who said Paranoid was Metal?

[DBoons Ghost]

Although I am not denying their massive influence, the T/S does state metal bands, which Rainbow are not.
However, I'm being pedantic.


No you're not being all that pedantic. Fair point.

:thumb:

They had a lot to do with the origins of Metal, which the T/S didn't ask for.

I'll just mosey on back to the punk forum. :wave:

[heavy metal kid]

Sorry, i put Paranoid instead of Black Sabbath.(T/S put it on his list)

[wrathchild88]

Deep Purple were quite influential, Machine Head probably being the most influential album (but In Rock being the best).

[Flynn]

in terms of influence and innovation

Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Death - Scream Bloody Gore


What else?


Individual Thought Patterns ~ Death.

[GenuineImitation]

Korn - Korn

Korn was a very influential band in the 90's. They set the standard of Nu-Metal and were on the first bands to use 7 string guitars. Because of Korn, we have bands like Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Adema, Saliva... While I am not a fan of these bands, I would say they influenced alot of people.

[ghettoeddo]

isnt korn the one famous for downtuning as low as possible?

[GenuineImitation]

isnt korn the one famous for downtuning as low as possible?


I dont think they downtuned as much as possible although I could be mistaken.

[psuedopilot]

l.d 50 by mudvayne was a great debut album and in my opinion a very important metal album of the new millenium.

[pye phyo ko]

metallica-master of puppets

[Shattered_Future]

I dont think they downtuned as much as possible although I could be mistaken.

At the time they did. Then Meshuggah built 8 strings.

[Steerpike]

metallica-master of puppets

Anybody want to take bets on how many more times this one is going to come up before the day is over?

[GenuineImitation]

Anybody want to take bets on how many more times this one is going to come up before the day is over?


I bet $40 that it will be mentioned at least 5 more times.

[pep]

What about AC/DCs Highway to Hell, or GnR - Appetite for Destruction.

[Txus]

Dissection - Storm Of The Lights Bane

[italic zero]

I thought I was pretty clear but I guess some of you guys don't understand. Yes, I said metal, so don't go any further back than Black Sabbath or Deep Purple. Secondly, as I said before, it must satisfy two conditions. It must be both innovative and influential. As an out of genre example, I'll give Led Zeppelin. They were maybe the most influential band of all time, but didn't really do all that much the Yardbirds hadn't done before them. Because these are the most important of all time, have spawned their own subgenres. Furthermore, most of them are the debut albums because, with a few notable exceptions, few bands progress enough past their original sound to create something truly new, distinct, and inspiring. This isn't to say that this debut album is always the best, merely the most important. For the most part, further albums only refine the original sound.

[Josh D.]

I bet $40 that it will be mentioned at least 5 more times.
I'll help you win $40: my answer is Metallica - MOP.
or Iron Maiden. Period.

[TEST]

I'll help you win $40: my answer is Metallica - MOP.
or Iron Maiden. Period.

Seriously. Who takes after MoP? Besides Trivium who's pathetic anyways

[Josh D.]

God d***, go away. MOP was so ahead of it's time, something may never be that far ahead again.

[TEST]

God d***, go away. MOP was so ahead of it's time, something may never be that far ahead again.
Please go back to sputnik. Not like you're useful there, but at least you blend in though.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

MoP wasn't that ahead of it's time. Influential nonetheless.

My list of the most important metal albums:

Judas Priest - Sad Wings Of Destiny
Bathory - Bathory
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Possessed - Seven Churches
Carcass - Reek Of Putrefaction
Napalm Death - Scum
Slayer - Reign In Blood
Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Venom - Welcome To Hell/Black Metal

[Steerpike]

MOP was so ahead of it's time, something may never be that far ahead again.

Piece of Mind - Iron Maiden
Painkiller - Judas Priest
To Mega Therion - Celtic Frost
Blood Fire Death - Bathory
Scum - Napalm Death

Oopsy. Looks like the myth of Metallica just got shot down again. Even if you could successfully argue that Master of Puppets was ahead of its time, that doesn't account for the fact that in the same era of metal, there were much more musically adept and visionary bands doing a hell of a lot more for the genre in terms of progress than Metallica ever did.

[Josh D.]

Even if you could successfully argue that Master of Puppets was ahead of its time, that doesn't account for the fact that in the same era of metal, there were much more musically adept and visionary bands doing a hell of a lot more for the genre in terms of progress than Metallica ever did.
No no, don't get me wrong, it's not like Metallica was the only band in the 80's to me. Iron Maiden, G 'n' R, JP, there were many bands doing their thing. I understand. Don't put too much into my response of MOP, that is one of many. It is inspirational to me. Along with others (i.e. Powerslave)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

This thread isn't really about your inspiration, though.

[Josh D.]

I know, but that is an example of how that album was a landmark for metal. I am 1 of many inspired by it. Nonetheless, forget it. I will change my answer if everyone is going to go crazy about it: Black Sabbath - Paranoid. Good enough?

[TEST]

No no, don't get me wrong, it's not like Metallica was the only band in the 80's to me. Iron Maiden, G 'n' R, JP, there were many bands doing their thing. I understand. Don't put too much into my response of MOP, that is one of many. It is inspirational to me. Along with others (i.e. Powerslave)
Thanks for naming hot topic bands that even my mom knows. Very impressive.

[Josh D.]

Anytime.
So now you're disrespecting IM. Good for you.

[eug008]

RIP - Megadeth
RIB - Slayer

[TEST]

Anytime.
So now you're disrespecting IM. Good for you.
k. Welcome.

[Werny]

My Dying Bride - The Angel And The Dark River. One of the pioneering albums in the death/doom field.

1) The genre had already established itself pretty well by 1995, with Anathema and Paradise Lost going mad with it and probably heaps of others.

2) That album is, by no stretch of the word, Death/Doom. No growls, no blasting...
I think you're thinking of Turn Loose The Swans.

Some really influential albums;
Thergothon - Stream From The Heavens
Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet
Cathedral - Forest Of Equilibrium
Godflesh - Streetcleaner
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Ministry - The Land Of Rape And Honey
Cryptopsy - None So Vile

[Arucard]

Well, SotS single handedly paved the way for an invasion of fags to blast us with their crappy breakdowns.

CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG noodle CHUG

thats pretty influential

[Apocalyptic Raids]

:lol:

[The_Oath]

Pretty much everything I would have said has been named off already.

As far as Grindcore goes, the early Repulsion demos were extremelly influential.

[superpeer]

1) The genre had already established itself pretty well by 1995, with Anathema and Paradise Lost going mad with it and probably heaps of others.

2) That album is, by no stretch of the word, Death/Doom. No growls, no blasting...
I think you're thinking of Turn Loose The Swans.


Amazing album, nonetheless, though. (The Angel and the Dark River, that is)

[3FingeredHoek]

Thanks for naming hot topic bands that even my mom knows. Very impressive.

What is your problem dude?


Anyway, I'd have to say Tool's Aenima or Lateralus, though you could argue that they're even metal.

Also, Pantera's Cowboys from Hell.

[Lord Abortion]

For Cathedral, I would class The Ethereal mirror as more influential in traditional doom than the forest...that has growls in, which are out of place in Trad Doom.

Paradise Lost-Gothic is a groundbreaker.

[heavy metal kid]

Seriously. Who takes after MoP? Besides Trivium who's pathetic anyways

Well MOP was a influence on Dream Theater, Peter Lindgren from Opeth, Type O Negative, Machine Head, Mastodon, Anthrax, and many more.

Musically, it isn't innovating, but the influence is there.

[barosjn]

And let's not forget Toxicity from System of a Down. That album has a lot of repetitive tracks, but it showed the world that there's a nu-metal band that doesn't imitate KoRn, who invented the genre in the first place.

[italic zero]

That was a stupid post please delete it.

[BewareTheOmen]

in terms of influence and innovation

Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Death - Scream Bloody Gore


What else?

Van Halen - Van Halen

It was a big part of starting hair metal.

[Scuba_Steve]

top 20, according to Guitar One

…Metal…
#1 Black Sabbath- Paranoid
G- Tony Iommi
C- #12
F- Until this album’s release, metal had been grounded in blue and was just beginning to move in a progressive (as in prog) direction. Bands like Zeppelin, Cream, and Jethro Tull explored several permutations of blues. Even Black Sabbath, in prior line-ups, had used heavy blues as a jumping-off point. But Paranoid changed all that. The album virtually defined heavy metal; more important however it introduced a noise that seemingly appeared from no where, a noise that Rolling Stone likened to “a brontosaurus in a tar pit”. Songs like “War Pigs”(about the horrors of Vietnam) and paranoid (a musing on metal illness) deepened the band’s mystique – they had already centered on black magic and other hoodoo. Iommi, working without two fingertips on his fret hand, invented a new, pure language on guitar that see glorified reemergence in the Sonics of Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and Nirvana some 20 years later.

#2 Metallica-Master of Puppets
G- Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield
C- #12
F- Master is, simply, one of the best metal albums ever recorded. With it, the group began welding a keen sense of melody to its thrash, and alternating between grinding bass-heavy, mid-tempo rockers and coursing, riff-happy fast-paced pummeling

#3 Slayer- Reign in Blood
G- Jeff Hanneman, Kerry King
C- #94
F- At the hands of King and Hanneman, metal kicked into a gear it never knew it had, Slaver had become obsessed with velocity and fret madness, and with this disc, they introduced the kind of sick speed and frenetic fingerings theretofore unseen – all in a mere 29 minutes. The two guitarists gleefully escorted listeners on hell ridges of frustration on songs like “Angel of Death” and “Raining Blood” both of which blur the line between ecstasy and agony.

#4 Ozzy Osbourne- Blizzard of Ozz
G- Randy Rhoads
C- #21
F- When Ozzy left Sabbath, few believed he could hold his own without his sonic crutch, guitarist Tony Iommi. But that was before many heard Randy Rhoads, the former Quiet Riot axeslinger. Rhoads entered the picture and immediately elevated the Blizzard sessions, taking over much of the musical direction and peppering Ozzy’s often mediocre material with blistering neoclassical lines. In so doing he remade 80s metal in his own image and became the most admired metal guitarist since Eddie Van Halen.

#5 Iron Maiden- Number of the Beast
G- Adrian Smith, Dave Murray
C- #33
F- Not only did Beast signal the arrival of new singer Bruce Dickinson; it also saw maiden phase out its punk elements and focus solely on heavy metal. This transition made the band’s intensely loyal fans skeptical, but it ultimately proved worth the risk, as sheets of six-string melody began cascading around Dickinson’s demonstrative vocal technique. As guitarists Dave Murray and Adrian Smith asserted themselves within this new context, the band managed to squeeze out at least two true classics: The title track and “run to the hills”.

#6 Megadeth- Peace Sells… But Who’s Buying?
G- Dave Mustaine, Jeff Young
C- #76
F- Mustaine’s version of Armageddon is manifest here: complex, thrashy arrangements, dark social commentary, and scintillating guitar figures. Unlike so many of their speed freak peer, Megadeth and Mustaine always had technique to fall back on. Peace Sells catches the band in an excellent place, away from the intense frustrations and bitterness that frequently dogged Mustaine.
#7 Pantera- Vulgar Display of Power
G- “Dimebag” Darrell Abbott
C- #44
F- Having ditched their faux-metal past in favor of real-deal thrash on 1990s Cowboys From Hell, Vulgar Display of Power sees the band getting truly entrenched in the idiom. Dimebag’s own vulgar display of mind frying solos and visceral power-chord progressions helped make Pantera the 90s go-to metal act and the standard by which most other metal bands are now judged.

#8 Dream Theater – Awake
G- John Petrucci
C- #32
F- Until Awake, Dream Theater showed a steady growth despite a handful of line-up changes. In the guitar department former Berklee student John Petrucci was fast becoming one of metal’s more intriguing tunes like “erotomania” and “space-Dye Vest” stay focused at all times, and the band is as tight – and as metal – here as it would ever be.

#9 Judas Priest- British Steel
G- K.K. Downing, Glenn Tipton
C- #34
F- British Steel portrays Priest tempered their blustery blitzkrieg rock with a renewed focus on melody. With tunes like “Living After Midnight” and “Breaking the Law” the established itself as a commercial entity while laying a solid foundation up which speed and thrash would be erected.

#10 Anthrax- Among the Living
G- Scott Ian, Danny Spitz
C- #62
F- If Anthrax didn’t signify a profound change in the direction of metal, they at least proved that they didn’t give a damn about the metal establishment in the first place. With their bird-flipping attitude and Scott Ian leading the way, Anthrax gladly swapped leather and studs for board shorts and skateboards. Among The Living is by turns humorous, impassioned and louder then hell.

#11 Megadeth- Rust in Peace
G- Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman
C- #100
F- Few expected the cutting leads and chopping rhythms found on RIP; Mustaine, only recently sober, had made several sloppy albums prior to this one. He was up to the task however, on classics like “Hangar 18” and “Take No Prisoners”.

#12 Metallica- Ride the Lightning
G- Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield
C- #100
F- One of the overlooked facts about this universally lauded epic is that former member Dave Mustaine holds a handful of the disc’s writing credits, including the title cut and the closing instrumental “The Call of the Ktulu”.

#13 Iron Maiden- Piece of Mind
G- Adrian Smith, Dave Murray
C- #14
F- One could make the argument that Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind and Powerslave are the best three metal albums consecutively recorded by one group.

#14 Meshuggah- Destroy, Erase, Improve
G- Fredrik Thordenal
C- N/A
F- Much like its title claims, this prog-metal opus destroyed metal conventions by adding polyrhythms, akward syncopations, and metric displacements.
#15 Entombed- Wolverine Blues
G- Uffe Cederland, Alex Petrov
C- N/A
F- Just when guitarists Uffe Cederlund and Alex Petrov had become gods of grind, they chose to sidestep the acclaim and alter their sound to embrace thrash and hard rock.

#16 Death- Individual Thought Patterns
G- Chuck Schuldiner
C- N/A
F- Schuldiner, Death’s monomaniacal frontman and guitar hero, spent the better part of his adult life lending legitimacy to death metal. He died of cancer in 2001.

#17 Helmet- Meantime
G- Page Hamilton
C- #68
F- Page Hamilton’s experimentation with Drop-D tuning predates most of the grunge players who used it ad nauseam – but it was his ability to commingle odd time signatures and jazzy harmonies with metal that set him apart from his alt-rock colleagues.

#18 Korn- Korn
G- James Shaffer (Munky), Brian Welch (Head)
C- #72
F- Head and Munky tuned to A-D-G-C-F-A-D giving their seven-string riffs a spooky heft. Plus, they favored jarring intervals: Minor 2nds, Major 7ths and the ever-popular tritone (b5).

#19 Lamb of God- New American Gospel
G- Willie Adler, Mark Morton
C- N/A
F- LOG went from virtually nobodies in 2000, when their debut dropped, to asking both Alex Skolnick and Chris Poland to guest on their latest disk, Ashes of the Wake.

#20 Shadows Fall- The Art of Balance
G- Matthew Bachand, Jon Donais
C- N/A
F- On the DVD that comes with the band’s latest disk, The War Within, Jon Donais and Matt Bachand demo riffs from their songs, first in real time and then slowed down. Guitar students might not bum about not being able to play the riffs in real time – but they sure might when they realize they can’t play them slowed down either.

[GenuineImitation]

top 20, according to Guitar One




Was that from "The Metal Issue" because my issue had a different list...:confused:

[got tool?]

And let's not forget Toxicity from System of a Down. That album has a lot of repetitive tracks, but it showed the world that there's a nu-metal band that doesn't imitate KoRn, who invented the genre in the first place.

The self titled album is better in so many different ways...

They're both great albums, but i kinda doubt their influence on the genre of nu-metal.

[Scuba_Steve]

Was that from "The Metal Issue" because my issue had a different list...:confused:


that was from the 200 most essential guitar recordings. Those were just the highest ranking metal albums.

[GenuineImitation]

that was from the 200 most essential guitar recordings. Those were just the highest ranking metal albums.


Is that a new issue because I have recieved it in the mail yet.

[Scuba_Steve]

Is that a new issue because I have recieved it in the mail yet.


it was a while back.

you sure we're both talking about guitar ONE?

[GenuineImitation]

Yeah Im talking about guitar One. Im talking about "The Metal Issue". Its kind of old because they were talking about what the new Megadeth album will be like.


Want me to post the list?

[Flynn]

top 20, according to Guitar One


At least Death was in there, I'm happy. :)

[Scuba_Steve]

Yeah Im talking about guitar One. Im talking about "The Metal Issue". Its kind of old because they were talking about what the new Megadeth album will be like.


Want me to post the list?


i've got that issue, I'll just flip through it.

Thanks for the offer though

NVM: I only have the one about new american metal.

If you could post it that'd be great.

[GenuineImitation]

Should I type it for the others anyway?

[Scuba_Steve]

Should I type it for the others anyway?


yeah, i apparently don't have it anyway, I have a different metal issue :(

[GenuineImitation]

yeah, i apparently don't have it anyway, I have a different metal issue :(


Ok, it will be up in a few minutes.

[Scuba_Steve]

Ok, it will be up in a few minutes.


sweet, thanks.

[Bfhurricane]

You can sum it up in one year...

...1986

Metallica - Master of Puppets
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Iron Maiden - Somewhere In Time
Megadeth - Peace Sells

good year for metal my friends.

^^Number of the Beast is better but Somewhere in time came out that year so I had to put it.

[Scuba_Steve]

You can sum it up in one year...

...1986

Metallica - Master of Puppets
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Iron Maiden - Somewhere In Time
Megadeth - Peace Sells

good year for metal my friends.

^^Number of the Beast is better but Somewhere in time came out that year so I had to put it.


not really, big year for mainstream metal though.

[heavy metal kid]

#6 Megadeth- Peace Sells… But Who’s Buying?
G- Dave Mustaine, Jeff Young


It was Chris Poland.

Energetic Disassembly by Watchtower has to be one of the most influential albums in Progressive and Tech Metal, besides it was pretty innovating at his time.

[Txus]

I can't stand the vocals of that album ^^

[heavy metal kid]

Most of the Tech metal albums/bands have crappy vocals or at least too experimental.

[Scuba_Steve]

It was Chris Poland.


I just copy stuff from magazines.

[Txus]

Yeah, you're right...I hated the Spiral Architect vocals before but now I love them so much. I think I should give Watchtower another try because they're really amazing musicians.

[heavy metal kid]

I just copy stuff from magazines.

Yeah, I know. I wasn't trying to shut that at your face, it was just an observation.

[Scuba_Steve]

Yeah, I know. I wasn't trying to shut that at your face, it was just an observation.

I know, it disappoints me that hobby magazines can be so innacurate sometimes.

[GenuineImitation]

From the November 2003 Guitar One’s “The Metal Issue”

Top 25 Metal Albums

25 – Kyuss – Blues for the Red Sun:

Before Queens of the Stone Age, Jpsh Homme and Nick Oliveri perpetrated Sabbath bas lines and Hendrix-meets Blue Cheer guitar lines woth Kyuss.

24 – Slipkont – Slipknot:

Neo-schock rock of the nine piece Iowans proved to be much more than a novelty, with an approach that sounded more like WWII than anything resembling heavy metal.

23 – Helmet – Meantime:

A convergence of jazz-inspired rythms and a quasi-industrial approach pushed Helmet into unexpected territory, best heard on Meantime.

22 – Korn – Korn:

Kurt Cobain’s death and Korn’s ascendance helped bury grunge in 1994. Their debut album proved that not all guitar sounds – in this casedowntuned seven strings – had yet been heard.

21 – Mercyful Fate – Don’t Break the Oath:

Once the true innovators of the gothic metal scene, MF became instrumental in designing metal around the evil exhortations of the Man: Satan

20 – Ministry – Psalm 69:

The most productive and consistently evolutionary of all industrial metal bands, Al Jourgensen and Paul Barker walked the walk, especially on the mind bending Psalm 69, coincidentally their best selling album.

19 – Emperor – Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk:

The din of black metal would have withered and died had it not been for the innovations of Emperor, the genre’s standard bearers and groundbreakers bar none.

18 – Anthrax – Among the Living:

The pinnacle of Scott Ian and Danny Spitz’s profoundly heaby tandem work came on this essential album.

17 – Entombed – Wolverine:

Beginnin as a deth metal crew back early on, Entombed hit its stride with this career making disc, found at the confluence of heavy rock and death metal.

16 – Death – Individual Thought Patterns:

For guitar enthusiasts, Chuck Schuldiner was a true hero. His innovations in death metal, best heard on this 1993 disc, were unrivalled.

15 – Sepultura – Chaos AD:

Rooted in punk, steeped in thrash, Sepultura was, for a few years in the 90’s the most innovative and adrenalizing metal band on the scene.

14 – Celtic Frost – Into the Pandemonium:

With the possible exception of Venom, the unpredictable Swiss-born Celtic Frost influenced more death and black metal outfits than any other band following their release of this seminal disc.

13 – Napalm Death – Fear, Emptiness, Despair:

Despite having more lineup changes than Menudo, ND’s extreme grindcore innovations happened quickly enough to supersede what some initially felt was little more than a novelty.

12 – Meshuggah – Destroy Erase Improve:

Much like the title claims, Fredrick Thordendal & Co. destroyed metal conventions by adding polyrhythms, elements of fusion and complex, super technical playing.

11 – Dio – Holy Diver:

Ronnie James Dio slid down Blackmore’s Rainbow and found his own pot of gold with Dio, a band whose seminal debut combined great melodies with classic metal riffs.

10 – Exodus – Bonded by Blood:

SF’s thrash progenitors and Hammett’s first band were swallowed whole by the impact of same city Metallica, but still managed to record their debut in 1984, a genre defining classic.

9 – Motorhead – Ace of Spades:

Amid England’s metal explosion in the 70’s and early 80’s only the strong survived. The final album by the bands original lineup proved Motorhead belonged among the elite.


8 – Judas Priest – Stained Class:

Not just blues derived loud rock, Stained Class served as the apex of 70’s metal and the foundation for the speed and thrash genre’s waiting to bloom.

7 – Venom – Black Metal:

Venom proved it was possible to be both despicable and visionary at the same time, unleashing an unfathomable brand of speed/thrash metal whose repercussions were felt beyond its humble Newcastle.

6 – Iron Maiden – Powerslave:

After Sabbath and Priest, there was Maiden. No one kept the flame of true metal alive more in the 80’s, and no album better encapsulated the Maiden mission than this one.

5 – Pantera – Vulgar Display of Power:

This is what it feels like to be beaten to a pulp. Pantera took everything that came before them, and held a match under it, and burned it clean. The pinnacle of the band’s recorded history.

4 – Megadeth – Peace Sells …:

Mustaine’s Armageddon is in full view, with elaborate thrash structures, darkly literate social polemic and incredible guitar work.

3 – Metallica – Master of Puppets:

While Ride the Lightning was the reinvention, Master was the refinement of that innovation, and has become as indispensable as it is epic.

2 – Slayer – Reign in Blood:

Speed Metal kicked into a gear it never knew it had, and explored depths of anger and frustration it had never expressed before, all in 29 minutes.

1 – Black Sabbath – Paranoid:

For musicians, not owning this paradigm of heavy metal is like playing in a band without a sense of rhythm. You have to have it.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Metallica - Master of Puppets
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Iron Maiden - Somewhere In Time
Megadeth - Peace Sells
more like:

Slayer - Reign In Blood
Kreator - Pleasure To Kill
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends

[GenuineImitation]

I type that all out and no one comments on it. I feel hurt guys...

[ghettoeddo]

haha genuine i am your biggest fan. aka envier.
i actually have never heard sabbath's paranoid.
yeayea shoot me.

in fact, i haven't heard the majority of that.
guess im not a metalhead

[GenuineImitation]

haha genuine i am your biggest fan. aka envier.
i actually have never heard sabbath's paranoid.
yeayea shoot me.

in fact, i haven't heard the majority of that.
guess im not a metalhead


Guess not, your not even a musician according to GUitar One.

[ghettoeddo]

i've heard 7/25 completely :]

i've heard bits and pieces from others, but not the albums in their entirety.

ohnoes guitarone > me :upset:

[666Ozzfan]

I have said before, in other threads, that Black Sabbath doesn't define themselves as heavy metal, more like hard rock, but I will agree that their album Master Of Reality was probably their most influencial album. It's heavier and darker than their other albums, and IMO, comes closer to defining as heavy metal than any of their other albums.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I type that all out and no one comments on it. I feel hurt guys...
I think you should have Sad Wings Of Destiny instead of British Steel. British Steel just had the hits...

I would have put Scream Bloody Gore or even Human instead of ITP.

and probably Melissa instead of Don't Break The Oath, but since they were released so close together it's not a huge deal.

:p

[Inpropagation]

I think you should have Sad Wings Of Destiny instead of British Steel. British Steel just had the hits...

I would have put Scream Bloody Gore or even Human instead of ITP.

and probably Melissa instead of Don't Break The Oath, but since they were released so close together it's not a huge deal.

:p

Agreed on all.

[rhcp pman]

I agree with most of what has been said so far. But I don't recall seeing any Carcass or Candlemass albums being mentioned... Maybe I just missed them.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I mentioned Reek Of Putrefaction, and I definitely saw Nightfall mentioned somewhere.

[GenuineImitation]

I think you should have Sad Wings Of Destiny instead of British Steel. British Steel just had the hits...

I would have put Scream Bloody Gore or even Human instead of ITP.

and probably Melissa instead of Don't Break The Oath, but since they were released so close together it's not a huge deal.

:p


First of all, it was Stained Class, not British Steel that made it on the list. Secondly it was from Guitar One and not me.

[Kreator2112]

Heartwork definately.

[Kreator2112]

Anthrax - Fistfull of Metal

[Det_Nosnip]

I thought I was pretty clear but I guess some of you guys don't understand. Yes, I said metal, so don't go any further back than Black Sabbath or Deep Purple.

Carl Orff - Carmina Burana
Franz Liszt - Dance of Death, Hungary, Mephisto's Waltzes
Grieg - In the Hall of the Mountain King
Bach - Tocatta, Fugue in D
Beethoven - Symphony No. 5, 9

;)

Ok, ok...

Therion - Theli. Incredibly ground breaking, basically the pioneers of the symphonic metal sound. As far as I know, one of the earliest instances of real choirs in a metal song.
the Gathering - Mandylion. Broke new ground with female-fronted metal band and extensive use of keyboards, leading to a huge wave of female fronted bands across Europe, esp. in the Netherlands.
Paradise Lost - Gothic. Another forerunner in the aforementioned sound. In this case, it was the mixing of harsh growls with angelic female vocals that was innovative+influential, inspiring and creating the so-called "Beauty and the Beast" arrangement found in such acts as After Forever (kinda), Epica, Within Temptation (not anymore, of course) and Tristania.
Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery. Huge early album, instrumental in creating and influencing the Gothenburg scene. What set DT apart IMO was their intricate and rich melodic phrases (as opposed to the often simple, more catchy melodies of In Flames and the thrashier At the Gates), often running in counterpoint. (Excellent ex: "Punish My Heaven." )

[Apocalyptic Raids]

First of all, it was Stained Class, not British Steel that made it on the list. Secondly it was from Guitar One and not me.
oh

uhh

>_>

[RainShadow]

In Flames - Come Clarity, if you check the review and comments, alot of people with alot of different musical backgrounds can all agree that this album is amazing and will change the way some people think about metal. Melodic Death Metal just brings people closer together!lol

[Apocalyptic Raids]

o_0

[gillygan]

DT's Character pretty much defines what Gothenburg is.

[Lord Abortion]

I think you should have Sad Wings Of Destiny instead of British Steel. British Steel just had the hits...

I would have put Scream Bloody Gore or even Human instead of ITP.

and probably Melissa instead of Don't Break The Oath, but since they were released so close together it's not a huge deal.

:p
Well, ITP and later Death influenced Tech Death...SBG was massively influential in Good DM.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Well, ITP and later Death influenced Tech Death...SBG was massively influential in Good DM.
hehe

I would say Human for the tech stuff, though.

[Sleepy]

In Flames - Come Clarity, if you check the review and comments, alot of people with alot of different musical backgrounds can all agree that this album is amazing and will change the way some people think about metal. Melodic Death Metal just brings people closer together!lol

Uhm.

You haven't heard any of their earlier stuff, have you?

:rolleyes:

Symbolic wasn't mentioned yet for Death? Crystal Mountain, boys! :smoke:

[Dave de Sylvia]

Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil

[barosjn]

The self titled album is better in so many different ways...

They're both great albums, but i kinda doubt their influence on the genre of nu-metal.

I agree. Their self-titled album was so much better, but I said Toxicity because it was the album that helped get System of a Down on the charts.

[Shattered_Future]

DT's Character pretty much defines what Gothenburg is.

I'll agree with this. While it's not the first released in the scene, this is basically THE best album that has ever been released in Gothenburg scene. Sets the bar incredibly high for competitors.

[Roo_bass]

I'll agree with this. While it's not the first released in the scene, this is basically THE best album that has ever been released in Gothenburg scene. Sets the bar incredibly high for competitors.
*cough*Whoracle*cough*

NP - Jester Script Transfigured

[heavy metal kid]

I always thought that Entombed's Left Hand Path was one of the pioneers of the Gothenburg sound.

[Apocalypticon]

Wintersun - S/T
Kalmah - Swampsong
Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder

all very original albums

[Riva]

Piece of Mind - Iron Maiden
Painkiller - Judas Priest
To Mega Therion - Celtic Frost
Blood Fire Death - Bathory
Scum - Napalm Death

Oopsy. Looks like the myth of Metallica just got shot down again. Even if you could successfully argue that Master of Puppets was ahead of its time, that doesn't account for the fact that in the same era of metal, there were much more musically adept and visionary bands doing a hell of a lot more for the genre in terms of progress than Metallica ever did.

Ah, Alex, I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, but some of those albums were released after Master of Puppets.