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Nostalgia
06-03-2006, 09:52 PM
:) Back again after doing a successful Wintersun PS, I'm now back with Cradle Of Filth.

Well, I can't say I'm a fan of a lot of these guys. When I was younger I sure liked 'em, but I really haven't listened to them in a while. But no one can take away their lyrical talent. No matter how much you dislike Dani, you cannot deny their lyrical talent. Seeing that they have a lot of albums, this should be a pretty hard selection. We'll start off with the song Lord Abortion. This song is off the album Midian.

Lord Abortion:

I was born with a birthmark of cinders
Debris cast from the stars and Mother
A ring of bright slaughter, I spat in the waters
Of life that ran slick from the stabwounds in Her

Dub Me Lord Abortion, the living dead
The bonesaw on the backseat
On this bitter night of giving head
A sharp rear entry, an exit in red
Lump in the throat, on my come choke
The killing joke worn thin with breath

I grew up on the sluts bastard Father beat blue
Keepsake cunts cut full out easing puberty through

Aah! Nostalgia grows
Now times nine or ten
Within this vice den called a soul
Dying resurrection
I dig deep to come again
The spasm of orgasm on a roll...

I live the slow serrated rape
The bucks fizz of amyl nitrate
Victims force fed thair own face
Tear stains upon the drape
I should compare them
To a warm Summer's day
But to the letter, it is better
To lichen their names to a grave

Counting My years on an abacus strung
With labial rings and heartstrings undone

Dub Me Lord Abortion, the living dead
The bonesaw on the backseat
On this bitter night of giving head
A sharp rear entry, an exit in red
Lump in the throat, on My come choke
The killing joke worn thin with breath

Horrorscopes My diorama
A twelve part (so far) psychodrama
Another chained I mean to harm Her
Inside as well as out
A perverts gasp inside the mask
I'm hard, blow My house of cards
All turn up Death, Her bleeding starts
In brute vermillion parts...

Now I slither through the hairline cracks
In sanity, best watch your back

Possessed with levering Hell's gates wide
Liberating knives to cut Humanity slack

My ambition is to slay anon
A sinner in the hands of a dirty God
Who lets Me prey, a Gilles De Rais
Of light where faith leads truth astray

Jesus, pretty graphic. Well, these are pretty self-explanatory, meaning wise, but this really isn't a legal song about abortion. They're not stating their views on the subject, they're only discovering the outcome. Though a lot of these lines are a little tough to understand, when you individually look at the word, they're really easy to dissect. For example, here are some words that might need defining:

Nostalgia: This line means to continue; to go throughout. When you input these kinds of lyrics into songs, it can extend the whole meaning. It adds meaning and edge to the whole song.

A sharp rear entry, an exit in red: Okay, this may not need actual defining, it's a rather grotesque lyric. When you read this lyric, you need to dismiss in the manner it's spoken in. Depending on the trimester that the babies being aborted, there are many different way of disposing of it. In this line, it as spoken as the baby is being murdered almost. It's just really a way of talking about its death.

Since this song is really straightforward, it really doesn't need too much interpreting. It's just a good song to bring up since it's so controversial. Anyway, the next song we'll be looking as is called:

Her Ghost In The Fog

"The Moon, she hangs like a cruel portrait
Soft winds whisper the bidding of trees
As this tragedy starts with a shattered glass heart
And the Midnightmare trampling of dreams
But oh, no tears please
Fear and pain may accompany Death
But it is desire that shepherds its certainty
As We shall see..."

She was divinity's creature
That kissed in cold mirrors
A Queen of Snow
Far beyond compare
Lips attuned to symmetry
Sought Her everywhere
Dark liqoured eyes
An Arabian nightmare...

She shone on watercolours
Of my pondlife as pearl
Until those who couldn't have Her
Cut Her free of this World

That fateful Eve when...
The trees stank of sunset and camphor
Their lanterns chased phantoms and threw
An inquisitive glance, like the shadows they cast
On my love picking rue by the light of the moon

Putting reason to flight
Or to death as their way
They crept through woods mesmerized
By the taffeta Ley
Of Her hips that held sway
Over all they surveyed
Save a mist on the rise
(A deadly blessing to hide)
Her ghost in the fog

This album is off one of their bests: Midian. If you don't know, Midian is an ancient tribe in Arabia, said to be descendants of Abraham. Though I do not know a lot about the meaning of it, a lot of the songs are based around this whole subject. It doesn't have to be the name of the song, you can almost just tell by its atmosphere or its meaning.

"taffeta Ley" Is also spoken in this song. Though when you research the meaning of each on of these words, you discover its descriptive meaning. "Taffeta" is like a smooth, silk fabric, When you define "Ley" It's defined as a grassland or a meadow. Each small definition of each line contributes to the songs meaning. That's what makes the song what it is; each descriptive line tells a story,

This is a very descriptive piece of work. Like I said in the paragraph above, the album title has a lot to do with the song's meaning. One of the lines in the song is concerning the Midian tribe “An Arabian nightmare..."

This song is including this girl, this struggling girl. What makes this song so good is its ability to form this "Ghost in the fog" You get this great image of this fog, and this girl's ghost in that fog. The song also mentions this line: "trees stank of sunset and camphor" When you put all of these lyrics together, it is almost as the forest is dying for her, or she's within the forest. “Her Ghost is in the Fog"

Now, are last song we'll be looking at is:

A Bruise Upon The Silent Moon

"And the Earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep..."

At first when I looked at this line, I was trying to define the meaning. But one I got thinking, I knew there was more of this line then it actually showed. I researched it for a little bit, and then came upon Genesis 1:2

The line stated this from what I found:

Now the earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters.

So, after researching this, I found a lot of good information. It's hard to give any other specific information, since it's a confusing way of using this line, but it's very interesting that it is used in this matter.

I hoped you like this one, guys. This was a rather tough one to do, because of the lyrical challenged, but I did my best on interpreting.

Cocaine
06-03-2006, 09:56 PM
Awesome from what I've read so far. Dani Filth may be sort of a fruit, but he's a pretty gifted lyricist. I'll have to read this all when I get the chance.

Txus
06-03-2006, 10:03 PM
I HATE this band but I admit they have some really good lyrics, great job in here man as always :)

Tool next pleaseeee!!

Nostalgia
06-03-2006, 10:05 PM
People need to stop posting in other threads. This is moving down the page fast! :lol:

Cocaine
06-03-2006, 10:05 PM
Tool would be a damned hefty undertaking. If you can do it, I say it's your best bet.

AA-12
06-03-2006, 10:07 PM
Dani Filth may be sort of a fruit, but he's a pretty gifted lyricist.
Haha, my thoughts exactly.

Huber
06-03-2006, 10:08 PM
I really like the chorus in Lord Abortion, but I'd never read the lyrics. This is a pretty big eye opener.

Good job.

azbassman
06-03-2006, 10:22 PM
Im probably the only one here besides Lord Abortion that is obssesed with this band. Before you say it i know, fanboy. I own every album except 'From The Cradle to Enslave'.

Another song with good lyrics IMO is A Gothic Romance (Red Roses For The Devils Whore). The song that got me into Cradle was All Hope in Eclipse.

Cocaine
06-03-2006, 10:24 PM
I actually enjoy their music, I just think Dani Filth is a douche.

Apocalyptic Raids
06-03-2006, 11:58 PM
/waits for Ollie

Do Testament next.

Nostalgia
06-04-2006, 02:28 AM
Haha, yeah, I know. That's when the real criticizing starts.

Lord Abortion
06-04-2006, 11:12 AM
Yeah, I like your choices of song, Lord Abortion has some of my favourite lyrics ever...and Her ghost is probably my favourite metal love song:p

Lord Abortion's story is from the perspective of a hideous creature. It's a little similar to Frankenstein in my view...born into death, and expected to do nothing else, it's a real outsider's song, depending on your interpritation, it's about feeling unloved is one analogy you could put on it.

"My ambition is to slay anon
A sinner in the hands of a dirty God
Who lets Me prey, a Gilles De Rais
Of light where faith leads truth astray"
Is my favourite part...(Gilles de Rais was a legendary French Cannibal, pedeophile and general inhuman monster) I like the way Dani amalgamates "ray of light" and "Rais" ..it's very cool.

Shattered_Future
06-04-2006, 11:23 AM
I never really bothered to pay attention to lyrics, but Dani Filth is a rather good lyricist, I must admit.

azbassman
06-04-2006, 11:31 AM
I personally like the lyrics from 'Suicide and Other Comforts'.

'And I, (much as I have tried
To bury Her from mind,
Fate's tourniquet was tied, when She died...)
Still sense Her presence so divine ',

'A darkened sky
The day that laughter died
Fell swiftly into night
And stayed within Her sight
Staring at the knife
Oh God, how easy now to sacrifice
My life, to have Her with me'...

Its about him losing his love. Also about him losing his faith, because his love was taken from him. As the song says it also about him contiplating suicide to be with his love.

TEST
06-05-2006, 05:49 PM
Man...... I have a totally different take on Lord Abortion and Her Ghost In The Fog.


Lord Abortion- It seems to me as a tale of a serial killer with bits of necrophilia mixed in. You cut part of the lyrics out btw. It seems to have a deeper meaing about serial killers, though I havn't grasped it yet.

Her Ghost- Again. Half of the lyric is missing.
Basically. She's an image of perfection of which the 5 priests cannot have. So they rape and kill her in the woods. Her lover locks & burns down the church toward in revenge.

You can read CoF lyrics (really most lyrics) in many ways.

TojesDolan
06-05-2006, 06:14 PM
Very interesting, certainly.

I like CoF mostly because of the lyrics, but I'm actually going to buy Midian if I get the chance because it's an awesome album.

Nostalgia
06-05-2006, 06:18 PM
Man...... I have a totally different take on Lord Abortion and You cut part of the lyrics out btw.

I know I did. I like just showing a preview of the lyrics, because I don't like them taking up the whole page.

You can interprete them anyway you want, really. Since the basic outline of the song is in its title.

TEST
06-05-2006, 06:18 PM
btw.

Midian is a concept album about a Clive Barker novel I forget the name of.

repcak
06-05-2006, 06:19 PM
i never liked, or never even listend to CoF, but now i think i should do it.

/Type 0 Negative next! their lyrics are fantastic

TEST
06-05-2006, 06:21 PM
i never liked, or never even listend to CoF, but now i think i should do it.

/Type 0 Negative next! their lyrics are fantastic
How can you not like, yet never have heard CoF? lol

GenuineImitation
06-05-2006, 06:22 PM
I never really listened to CoF, but the lyrics do seem pretty interesting. Anyway, I voted Tool because everyone thinks Maynard is a genuis, but I just dont see it. Maybe you could clear things up.

I think In Flames and Testement would be cool also.

Lord Abortion
06-05-2006, 06:23 PM
btw.

Midian is a concept album about a Clive Barker novel I forget the name of.
It also contains elements of the Cthulhu mythos, a recurrent theme in Cradle's songs.

TEST
06-05-2006, 06:25 PM
It also contains elements of the Cthulhu mythos, a recurrent theme in Cradle's songs.
Yepp

Daven
06-05-2006, 06:30 PM
I never really liked CoF, but their lyrics are ver y good. Awesome job Silentscream.

TEST
06-05-2006, 06:32 PM
mehh. It's a great series he does. He had the meanings WAY off though.

Tool should be an interesting one.

Nostalgia
06-05-2006, 07:55 PM
Dub Me Lord Abortion, the living dead
The bonesaw on the backseat
On this bitter night of giving head
A sharp rear entry, an exit in red
Lump in the throat, on my come choke
The killing joke worn thin with breath

I grew up on the sluts bastard Father beat blue
Keepsake squirrels cut full out easing puberty through

Well, these lyrics pretty much sum up the song. Oh, and where did you get the necrophilliac part from? I didn't see any, but whatever:

I grew up on the sluts bastard Father beat blue

In my opinion, the story is being told in the Child's perspective. It's explaining the "Exit in Red" Meaning it's in the process of death. It also explains the Slut's bastard Father beat blue. This is more edvidence of the Child's demise.

Of course there is going to be other thoughts that the lyrics that I interpreted
are somewhat "wrong" But honestly, none are wrong. If you read the lyrics in different ways, they're going to change to who evers reading it. Don't focus on that what I said was "Wrong" and don't genralize that they have an individual meaning, because they don't.

Bazarov
06-05-2006, 08:00 PM
I've only heard CoF cover of Hell Awaits.

Good job with interpreting these lyrics. Hey, Austin do you ever visit. www.songmeanings.net?

Also, I think that the day of 06/06/06 calls for a Poetry Speaks #666 edition for Slayer.

I dunno, I'm just throwing out ideas.

Dave de Sylvia
06-05-2006, 08:35 PM
I cannot be the only one to find those lyrics completely and utterly lame. It's inconceivable.

King_Of_Terrors
06-05-2006, 08:48 PM
Nice, I don't care too much for this band, but he is amazing at writing lyrics.

Please do not do Tool next man...Do OLD In Flames if you have to.

TEST
06-05-2006, 09:23 PM
Well, these lyrics pretty much sum up the song. Oh, and where did you get the necrophilliac part from? I didn't see any, but whatever:



In my opinion, the story is being told in the Child's perspective. It's explaining the "Exit in Red" Meaning it's in the process of death. It also explains the Slut's bastard Father beat blue. This is more edvidence of the Child's demise.

Of course there is going to be other thoughts that the lyrics that I interpreted
are somewhat "wrong" But honestly, none are wrong. If you read the lyrics in different ways, they're going to change to who evers reading it. Don't focus on that what I said was "Wrong" and don't genralize that they have an individual meaning, because they don't.

I agree with the child. I think fukked up childhood and learns behavior from his father.

About the necro stuff.
You left parts out or had incomplete lyrics.



"My heart was a wardrum beat
By jugular cults in eerie jungle vaults
When number thirteen fell in My lap
Lips and skin like sin, a Venus Mantrap
My appetite whetted, storm crows wheeled
At the blurred edges or reason 'til I was fulfilled
Whors d'oeuvres eaten, I tucked Her into
A grave coffin fit for the Queen of Spades
She went out like the light in My mind
Her face an avalanche of pearl, of ruby wine...
Much was a flux, but the mouth once good for ****s
Came from retirement to prove She had not lost Her touch
I kissed Her viciously, maliciously, religiously
But when has ONE been able TO best seperate the THREE?
I know I'm sick as Dahmer did, but this is what I do
Aah, aah, ahh, I'll let you sleep when I am through..."


There.

Shred Danson
06-05-2006, 09:45 PM
Awesome! I was actually wondering if you were going to ever do a CoF thread seeing as how their lyrics are always poetic. They always struck me as a darker version of Edgar Allan Poe's poetry, I guess.

repcak
06-06-2006, 03:18 AM
How can you not like, yet never have heard CoF? lol
i heard some songs by them and i have even an album by them at home ...

Apocalyptic Raids
06-06-2006, 03:33 AM
I cannot be the only one to find those lyrics completely and utterly lame. It's inconceivable.
I don't really see what's so amazing either.

Lord Abortion
06-06-2006, 11:40 AM
I agree with the child. I think fukked up childhood and learns behavior from his father.

This is what I interpret too, the child is very much a product of it's father, like I said, born into nothing, and having an expectation only to do evil.