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twankie
06-02-2006, 07:49 AM
is anybody else afflicted by this in their hands?
the little pinky of my left hand locks up when pressure is put on the top... awful when trying to play but im teaching it.
anybody else?
Esp Griffyn
06-02-2006, 07:51 AM
"Double jointed" is a myth dont you know
katana_manatee
06-02-2006, 07:55 AM
True, it is hyper flexibility.
twankie
06-02-2006, 07:56 AM
um
well
you know what i mean ;)
katana_manatee
06-02-2006, 07:57 AM
um
well
you know what i mean ;)
Aye. ;)
We're just being pedants. Now to free the thread for people who are hyper flexible.
muthafunkabass
06-02-2006, 08:02 AM
Yeah, my thumb is double-jointed........
Scott01
06-02-2006, 08:07 AM
is anybody else afflicted by this in their hands?
the little pinky of my left hand locks up when pressure is put on the top... awful when trying to play but im teaching it.
anybody else?
Thats not double jointed, I get it too. Its called a weak finger, I used to get it real bad to the point that playing for too long would cause my finger to do its own thing, as though it would stop responding :confused:
Only way to fix it is to keep strengthening it with fretting exercises. :thumb:
Killer Fridge
06-02-2006, 08:09 AM
Thats not double jointed, I get it too. Its called a weak finger, I used to get it real bad to the point that playing for too long would cause my finger to do its own thing, as though it would stop responding :confused:
Only way to fix it is to keep strengthening it with fretting exercises. :thumb:
Yeah mine used to do that too.
I do, however, have hyper flexible thumbs! :thumb:
bass&cookies
06-02-2006, 08:47 AM
my pinky used to lock up straight like that sometimes while playing. it doesnt do it anymore though
twankie
06-02-2006, 08:48 AM
hhrrmm
i dont know actually..
cause i can bend that finger all the way back.. so its flat against the back of my hand so im assuming thats "hyper flexible".
but yeh i get that locking up thing. ive had it sense i can remember. and it IS getting better. maybe i have both in that one finger. heh.
and i can play pretty quick with the little finger now too. just sometimes when i have to fret quickly it can snap down and make a bit of a "clack" noise... im not sure if that makes sense. ive been working on making it stronger though ;)
Akira
06-02-2006, 09:15 AM
Yeah, just work on strenthening your pinky, that is how to fix hyper flexibility.
Score one gym class. At least I got something out of it.
The jazz metal flum
06-02-2006, 09:53 AM
See this is why I love my hands being so perfect and straight.:thumb:
Left Shoe
06-02-2006, 11:18 AM
i have two thumbs that are double jointed, also the elbows, only the thumb really helps with anything
I'm hyper-flexable in both my hands, left especially. I can move the first joint on my fingers individually. It hasn't affected me all that much in playing.
pitchfork
06-02-2006, 01:59 PM
I know a guy who is ultra flexible in all his fingers and thumbs.
He's an awful bassist (though he says he's a drummer, but he can't even groove and doesn't have independace), watching him try and slap with his thumb bent back was funny.
nilon
06-02-2006, 03:25 PM
I'm hyper flexible and it makes all but the simplest and slowest finger style impossible for me, as I lift my fingers up they bend back at the middle joint and then the end of my finger bends and they lock up tighter than Gav's old girl pants.
Slap and picking is ok, and it allows for some mean stretches from my fretting hand!
twankie
06-02-2006, 04:01 PM
jeez nilon, that sounds a lot worse than what i have...
Spaceman Spiff
06-02-2006, 04:33 PM
My brother can bend his fingers back and touch the back of his hand with them. :eek:
Viscous Fridge Magnet
06-02-2006, 04:44 PM
On my left hand, the joint where your thumb meets our hand, i can pop away into my hand. Hard to explain.
On my left hand, the joint where your thumb meets our hand, i can pop away into my hand. Hard to explain.
No responce to what you said, but welcome to the forums
Esp Griffyn
06-02-2006, 06:40 PM
i have two thumbs that are double jointed, also the elbows, only the thumb really helps with anything
I think you must have missed it, but here it is again; "double" or "Dual jointed" is a myth, such a thing does not exist. Hyperflexability is however real.
However, so many people claim to be "hyper flexible" Im starting to think they arent hyper flexible at all, and that its just normal flexability.
Can you imagine, anatomically, what have 2 joints on one knuckle of your thumb would look like?
No you cant because such a thing does not exist
However, so many people claim to be "hyper flexible" Im starting to think they arent hyper flexible at all, and that its just normal flexability.
Not that I'm disagreeing with you but...EXPLAIN THIS!!!
http://img12.imagevenue.com/loc275/th_91604_195787144.jpg (http://img12.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc275&image=91604_195787144.jpg)http://img28.imagevenue.com/loc282/th_91587_195787016.jpg (http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc282&image=91587_195787016.jpg)
http://img24.imagevenue.com/loc37/th_91614_195787400.jpg (http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc37&image=91614_195787400.jpg)http://img32.imagevenue.com/loc133/th_91609_195787272.jpg (http://img32.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc133&image=91609_195787272.jpg)
katana_manatee
06-02-2006, 07:04 PM
Not that I'm disagreeing with you but...EXPLAIN THIS!!!
http://img12.imagevenue.com/loc275/th_91604_195787144.jpg (http://img12.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc275&image=91604_195787144.jpg)http://img28.imagevenue.com/loc282/th_91587_195787016.jpg (http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc282&image=91587_195787016.jpg)
http://img24.imagevenue.com/loc37/th_91614_195787400.jpg (http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc37&image=91614_195787400.jpg)http://img32.imagevenue.com/loc133/th_91609_195787272.jpg (http://img32.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc133&image=91609_195787272.jpg)
You only have one joint but it can be moved against itself. Doesn't mean you have it "hinged" both ways. Just means you can bend it.
You only have one joint but it can be moved against itself. Doesn't mean you have it "hinged" both ways. Just means you can bend it.
I was refering to ESP's "people not actually not being hyperflexable" dealy. I understand the whole non-doublejointiness.
twankie
06-02-2006, 07:10 PM
Not that I'm disagreeing with you but...EXPLAIN THIS!!!
http://img12.imagevenue.com/loc275/th_91604_195787144.jpg (http://img12.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc275&image=91604_195787144.jpg)http://img28.imagevenue.com/loc282/th_91587_195787016.jpg (http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc282&image=91587_195787016.jpg)
http://img24.imagevenue.com/loc37/th_91614_195787400.jpg (http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc37&image=91614_195787400.jpg)http://img32.imagevenue.com/loc133/th_91609_195787272.jpg (http://img32.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc133&image=91609_195787272.jpg)
that top right image is what my little finger does... locking up.
is there a cure? or... yeh. how to fix it.
katana_manatee
06-02-2006, 07:11 PM
I was refering to ESP's "people not actually not being hyperflexable" dealy. I understand the whole non-doublejointiness.
Oh right. Oh well, there is an explanation then for anyone who does believe some people can have double joints. :lol:
Jake=Suck
06-02-2006, 07:34 PM
is there a cure? or... yeh. how to fix it.
break the finger at the joint with a hammer and see if heels right.
and just so that no one yells at me, im not serious this is a horrible idea and if you're even thinking about trying it you need to find a gun put it in your mouth and pull the trigger
katana_manatee
06-02-2006, 07:41 PM
Maybe get as much calcium as you can? Doubt it will harden the bones much though. I feel sorry for people with hyper flexibility. They get terrible back problems when they get older and often their spine twists. So do whatever you can to strengthen those bones.
Maybe get as much calcium as you can? Doubt it will harden the bones much though. I feel sorry for people with hyper flexibility. They get terrible back problems when they get older and often their spine twists. So do whatever you can to strengthen those bones.
I'm a milk fiend! I seriously doubt I need much more calcium.
On the note of twisty spine, I know a guy in highschool who had to wear a back brace because his spine was, if the contours were exaggerated, shaped like a question mark. Here's the kicker, he was our schools best wrestler and was a defenceman on our football team...and he's 5'3".
katana_manatee
06-02-2006, 08:05 PM
I'm a milk fiend! I seriously doubt I need much more calcium.
On the note of twisty spine, I know a guy in highschool who had to wear a back brace because his spine was, if the contours were exaggerated, shaped like a question mark. Here's the kicker, he was our schools best wrestler and was a defenceman on our football team...and he's 5'3".
I suggest you go see your doctor, see if he/she knows anything you can do.
I suggest you go see your doctor, see if he/she knows anything you can do.
Like I said, it doesn't hinder me any bit in my playing. You just have to learn to cope with it. It's nothing I am worried about.
Bitchwax
06-02-2006, 08:16 PM
You all might have hyper flexible hands, as do I. But, I have rubber hands.
as in, my hands (right one more so) are very loose. I'm sure some of you can do it. I can move the first joint of my fingers (the tip, and including the thumb) even though it locks up the rest of my finger. I can bend my thumb back all the way to my wrist.
but seriously, I'm sure most of you have done that trick with a pencil, where you make it look like rubber. well think that, but with a human hand. :amaze:
threadstarter: I'm sorry your "Hyperflexible" tendencies seem to bring you down. work on it, and it could become an advantage, y'never know.
Jake=Suck
06-02-2006, 08:55 PM
threadstarter: I'm sorry your "Hyperflexible" tendencies seem to bring you down. work on it, and it could become an advantage, y'never know.
thats true ryan martinie is double jointed i read about a technique called semi-popping that he uses and you have to be "double jointed" to do it. so dont worry theres still hope :chug:
Bitchwax
06-03-2006, 12:03 AM
thats true ryan martinie is double jointed i read about a technique called semi-popping that he uses and you have to be "double jointed" to do it. so dont worry theres still hope :chug:
I'm so glad I can do that. It is the same thing that Les Claypool does some of the time. I think, correct me if I'm wrong.
The jazz metal flum
06-03-2006, 05:42 AM
Not that I'm disagreeing with you but...EXPLAIN THIS!!!
http://img12.imagevenue.com/loc275/th_91604_195787144.jpg (http://img12.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc275&image=91604_195787144.jpg)http://img28.imagevenue.com/loc282/th_91587_195787016.jpg (http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc282&image=91587_195787016.jpg)
http://img24.imagevenue.com/loc37/th_91614_195787400.jpg (http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc37&image=91614_195787400.jpg)http://img32.imagevenue.com/loc133/th_91609_195787272.jpg (http://img32.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc133&image=91609_195787272.jpg)
Hey I have a friend who can do all that crazy ****!
Left Shoe
06-03-2006, 11:45 AM
My brother can bend his fingers back and touch the back of his hand with them. :eek:
me tooo
I suffer from hitch-hickers thum on both hands where the thumb joint can bend back on itself. Its not to bad on my right hand but on my left I am able to bent my thumb at the first knuckle through 180 degrees.
Basically means that the entire pad of my thumb rests against the back of the neck.
Have a look at Bootsy Collins in the DR strings picture of him, I have the same thing.
EDIT: Just noticed. I have the same thing with my thumb as SuP
Left Shoe
06-03-2006, 12:03 PM
how is that suffering, most people without hitchhikers thumb want it when they play bass
how is that suffering, most people without hitchhikers thumb want it when they play bass
Well I guess "suffer" is the wrong word. I "have" hitch-hikers thumb would be better.
It does tend to freak some people out.
bryce_the_cat
06-03-2006, 01:06 PM
the thumb on my right hand can get "locked up", but it doesnt effect my bass playing :)
Jake=Suck
06-03-2006, 02:24 PM
I'm so glad I can do that. It is the same thing that Les Claypool does some of the time. I think, correct me if I'm wrong.
he does and for a while i was actually looking for a way to make my right index and middle fingers double joinetd, but then i gave up because its not possible
twankie
06-03-2006, 08:57 PM
explain to me what it is?
or examples of a song or vid clip where he uses such a technique?
Jake=Suck
06-03-2006, 09:05 PM
severed by mudvayne off of L.D. 50 ryan martinie uses semi-pop a ton in this, i dont really know how to do it though because i cant so i never bothered to try, read the wikipedia article about him it talks about breifly although i dont think it explains how to do it. I dont know of any specific songs were les claypool uses it i was just talking about this with another bassist and he mentioned that claypool uses it
EDIT:http://youtube.com/watch?v=nvSGVNi1hiE&search=severed%20mudvayne
thats the video for severed
twankie
06-03-2006, 11:29 PM
i dont actually know what im looking for...
mebbe a google would be a good bet eh :P
thanks though.
Bitchwax
06-04-2006, 11:50 PM
explain to me what it is?
or examples of a song or vid clip where he uses such a technique?
If I am talking about the same thing, it is the process of bouncing your thumb on the string multiple times, usually a short fast burst.
if I had a webcam, I'd show you what I am talking about.
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