Guitarists

[Malevolent_aspect]

As bass players dont you find guitar players arrogant? the two in my band are bastards, the one will hurt you if you say some1's better than him and the other wont take guitar lessons to improve bcz he thinks teaching cant help him improve and he dont want the teacher to be better than him! any of you guys know any guitarists like that or worse! :thumb:

[katana_manatee]

As bass players dont you find guitar players arrogant? the two in my band are bastards, the one will hurt you if you say some1's better than him and the other wont take guitar lessons to improve bcz he thinks teaching cant help him improve and he dont want the teacher to be better than him! any of you guys know any guitarists like that or worse! :thumb:

I think it is a little unfair to judge guitarists as all being arrogant, I have met loads of astounding guitarists who are very humble and the odd few idiots. But any kind of musician can be arrogant. I've met a lot of arrogant bassists and drummers too.

[Led_Zeppelin678]

Last night I heard a guitarist at my church say "Isn't bass easy after playing guitar?".

So I calmly walked over and pwned him with some sweeping and tapping.

[willibassist]

I think it is a little unfair to judge guitarists as all being arrogant, I have met loads of astounding guitarists who are very humble and the odd few idiots. But any kind of musician can be arrogant. I've met a lot of arrogant bassists and drummers too.

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The guitarist i'm in a band with is one of the most humble guys i know. me and the drummer are the arrogant ones. but the drummer is amazing and i do vocals so i have stupidly high self confidence even though i suck at bass

[Akira]

Some guitarists are asses, some are really chill dudes. Same goes with bassists. You really can't stereotype with it.

[Malevolent_aspect]

Last night I heard a guitarist at my church say "Isn't bass easy after playing guitar?".

So I calmly walked over and pwned him with some sweeping and tapping.

yea i hate it when people say 'bass is easy', theres so much more to it than guitar IMO, but it just gets on my nerves being judged by a lie

[PainKiller8191]

yeah what a stupid judgement

"well I know 2 guitarists who are ignorant...that must mean...ALL Guitarists are ignorant!!! yes! those bastards!"

[Roo_bass]

All the guitarists I'm in bands with at the moment are cool, none of them are arrogant.

[Left Shoe]

Last night I heard a guitarist at my church say "Isn't bass easy after playing guitar?".

So I calmly walked over and pwned him with some sweeping and tapping.
you sure showed him.


i have 3 guitars players i deal with, 1 astounding musician , very modest. 2 very modest, for a reason. 3rd, not modest at all, and with no reason at all.

they are all over the place, a guitarist is not a species, he or she is still human under that instrument.

[Akira]

yea i hate it when people say 'bass is easy', theres so much more to it than guitar IMO, but it just gets on my nerves being judged by a lie
Acting like bass is better than guitar will not exactly help make guitarists accept bass.

[mastrrbasser]

these threads make bassists seem more arrogant than the guitarists in question. Get a new guitarist if it bugs you that much. Percapita there are just as many arrogant bassists as guitarists.

[Left Shoe]

these threads make bassists seem more arrogant than the guitarists in question. Get a new guitarist if it bugs you that much. Percapita there are just as many arrogant bassists as guitarists.
if not more

[b00mer]

I'm the arrogant one in the band. Our guitarists and drummer are both quite humble, and our singer/guitarist refuses to get lessons because he thinks it will influence his style and he wants to develop his own, which really holds him back but he's a kick *** song writer :D

[Naveed Afzal]

Eh... ive found younger guys seem to think they are Gods gift, but my guitarist hes not arrogrant he and i are good friends, and hes never really paid attention to the bass before.

but now he does, he actually grabs my bass when he comes by and starts playing thats something he never did ebfore...

[mastrrbasser]

if not more


yeah you're probably right. If you people hate guitarists so much, then don't play with one.

[katana_manatee]

There are more arrogant guitarists than bassists, but only because there are more guitarists and a lot of people pick up guitar to try and impress people, but that is still a small proportion of guitarists out there, but it is more known for guitarists to be arrogant. That does not mean however that the majority of them are.

[mastrrbasser]

There are more arrogant guitarists than bassists, but only because there are more guitarists and a lot of people pick up guitar to try and impress people, but that is still a small proportion of guitarists out there, but it is more known for guitarists to be arrogant. That does not mean however that the majority of them are.


that's the whole "per capita thing" i'm talking about. Like the only reason more white people commit crime than black people in america is because white people outnumber black people. But when you do the percapita and do it as a percentage, it's about 50 50. People are people, and that's that. doesn't matter what instrument you play, arrogance is arrogance.

[katana_manatee]

that's the whole "per capita thing" i'm talking about. Like the only reason more white people commit crime than black people is because white people outnumber black people. But when you do the percapita and do it as a percentage, it's about 50 50. People are people.


Ah of course, sorry missed that aspect to your post. :lol:

[mastrrbasser]

Ah of course, sorry missed that aspect to your post. :lol:


no harm no fowl. It's all good. these threads just piss me off. because we end up looking more arrogant than the guitarists that we're bashing.

[mutant!]

As bass players dont you find guitar players arrogant?
That's why I'm switching to bass. :thumb:
yea i hate it when people say 'bass is easy', theres so much more to it than guitar IMO, but it just gets on my nerves being judged by a lie
That's an equally bullsh1t statement. Saying there's more to bass than guitar is exactly the same crime as saying there's more to guitar than bass, so stfu.

[Jody LeCompte]

Led_Zeppelin678: Gee, your not an asshole at all.

I've delt with pompus keyboard players, drummers, horn players, anything you can imagine. I play guitar too and I don't think it's any easier/harder. Theres not a damn thing you can do on guitar you can't do on bass and vic versa. Sterotypes aren't any way to go though.

IE: Everyone in the bass forum complains about how their guitarist just wants to solo while they play roots, when there was a thread in the guitar forum about what kind of bassist they like to play with everyone complained their bassist just stands in the back and roots. A few people even said they wanted "Tony Levin" "Justin Chancellor" "Mike Gordon" and "Billy Sheehan" types.

When bassist start to whine about how their place in the music isn't good enough, they're being just as arrogant.

[mastrrbasser]

That's an equally bullsh1t statement. Saying there's more to bass than guitar is exactly the same crime as saying there's more to guitar than bass, so stfu.


thank you. and to make your curse words look a little less choppy, use the bold feature and make a letter bold. It's a lot easier on the eyes.


bullshit :thumb:

[willibassist]

Led_Zeppelin678: Gee, your not an asshole at all.

i laughed.

[katana_manatee]

no harm no fowl. It's all good. these threads just piss me off. because we end up looking more arrogant than the guitarists that we're bashing.

That is pretty true and ironic, we become arrogant about our apparent humbleness in comparison to guitarists. :lol:

[willibassist]

thank you. and to make your curse words look a little less choppy, use the bold feature and make a letter bold. It's a lot easier on the eyes.


bullshit :thumb:

or just bullshit

[mastrrbasser]

Led_Zeppelin678: Gee, your not an asshole at all.


had me fooled.

[katana_manatee]

thank you. and to make your curse words look a little less choppy, use the bold feature and make a letter bold. It's a lot easier on the eyes.


bullshit :thumb:

Or change the colour to white in an offending letter. (Assuming most of us use the kinda turqoise background with white lettering.) Makes the word totally normal looking. It took me a year to figure out how to bypass the swear filter. :lol:

[Left Shoe]

i like how easily influenced these threads are, if no one had said anything this thread woudlve contained posts about the most arrogant gutiarist people know and how much more respect bass deserves

[willibassist]

Or change the colour to white in an offending letter. (Assuming most of us use the kinda turqoise background with white lettering.) Makes the word totally normal looking. It took me a year to figure out how to bypass the swear filter. :lol:

what? i just put [[COLOR="Black"]/COLOR] around a letter

[mastrrbasser]

i like how easily influenced these threads are, if no one had said anything this thread woudlve contained posts about the most arrogant gutiarist people know and how much more respect bass deserves


most likely.

[katana_manatee]

what? i just put [[COLOR="Black"]/COLOR] around a letter

That is what I was on about, only using white instead of black. In my layout of the forums I use the turqoise background with white lettering, so if you choose a letter to be white it stays white but you can bypass the swear filter doing that. Maybe you use the silver background with black letters though hence why you chose black?

[Killer Fridge]

i like how easily influenced these threads are, if no one had said anything this thread woudlve contained posts about the most arrogant gutiarist people know and how much more respect bass deserves

Its really so true though. When I first joined and saw a thread like this, it was about 6 pages long saying that guitarists are wankers. Now, it appears, people have realised that they sound like tits saying that.

Anyway, I know at least 2 modest guitarists with talent, and 2 with a distinct lack of talent who are very arrogant (and one dislikes people who learn their own solos "slash is a sellout, because he knows his own solo. The whole point of a solo is to show people what is in your heart at the moment, and it doesnt matter how good it sounds", ie, bullshiting to make up for his lack of talent. He also feels he has the right to basically tell one of the talented guitarists what to do, but its too long for me to explain why).

*breaths*

[Munky_Jam]

Last night I heard a guitarist at my church say "Isn't bass easy after playing guitar?".

So I calmly walked over and pwned him with some sweeping and tapping.
Hello Pot,this is Kettle. YOU"RE BLACK!

You ****ing idiot

[willibassist]

That is what I was on about, only using white instead of black. In my layout of the forums I use the turqoise background with white lettering, so if you choose a letter to be white it stays white but you can bypass the swear filter doing that. Maybe you use the silver background with black letters though hence why you chose black?

yer thatll be it, how come you have the turqoise background? i had it for a short while when mxtabs died but after about a week i was back on the silver

[katana_manatee]

yer thatll be it, how come you have the turqoise background? i had it for a short while when mxtabs died but after about a week i was back on the silver

Scroll down to the bottom of the screen. To your left you should see a dropdown box which you can select the colour scheme. I have it on blue green.

[willibassist]

Scroll down to the bottom of the screen. To your left you should see a dropdown box which you can select the colour scheme. I have it on blue green.

thanks

[EonBlueApoc128]

All the guitarists I know aren't arrogant at all, but sometimes I do hear the "bass is easier than guitar" thing from people who just don't know much about music, so it doesn't bug me much. The guitarists that I do know that are jackasses about their instrument tend to have very little talent, and are seemingly compensating.

Just being in the bass forum I've seen more bassists that are arrogant (in my opinion) than all the guitarists I've met. But I don't bother with the guitar forums.

[Riouken]

All the guitarists I know aren't arrogant at all, but sometimes I do hear the "bass is easier than guitar" thing from people who just don't know much about music, so it doesn't bug me much. The guitarists that I do know that are jackasses about their instrument tend to have very little talent, and are seemingly compensating.

Just being in the bass forum I've seen more bassists that are arrogant (in my opinion) than all the guitarists I've met. But I don't bother with the guitar forums.
Agreed.

The bass community is full of elitism, arrogance and bitterness.

[lateralus423]

My ex-guitarist is arogant as fuk. Thinks hes the best at it and cant really do anything besides a few solos.

[SquierBasser]

My guitarist is the same way, we were learning a song together and I told him he needed to make it a little less sloppy and he replied, "OK Mr. Thump thump"

I pulled some mad **** out of my *** and he gives me RESPEKT now!!

;)

[Left Shoe]

we beleive you

[katana_manatee]

we beleive you

Try turning up your sarcasm detector. I've got a reading.

[Anakin Skywalker]

GUITARIST ITT!

As a guitarist, here's my point of view.

The majority of guitarists are extremely arrogant, selfish, and moronic. I hate most guitarists.

I find bassists and drummers much more easy to get along with in general than many guitarists.

So many guitarists think they have to be the best at everything, and just play to show off and be flashy. A lot of them just care about themselves, and drop the bass in the mix so you can just hear them solo. People like this are extremely immature.

I'm a solo guitarist, and people tell me that I act nothing like the majority of guitarists. I like when everyone gets their own time in the spotlight, and I treat everything as a whole, and change things for the good of the music.

Most guitarist are stupid and annoying. Look for the ones that aren't.

This is not to say that there aren't tons of cool, humble, awesome guitarists. The ones who don't have their heads up their asses are great people, and tend to be much better players.

[HaVIC5]

what? i just put [[COLOR="Black"]/COLOR] around a letter
But black isn't used all all color schemes. The only one that really works is the size tag (size="2" /size) because unless you have the default size in your internet browser as being smaller or larger, it will blend in every time.

And yeah, kudos to above^^^

[katana_manatee]

This is not to say that there aren't tons of cool, humble, awesome guitarists. The ones who don't have their heads up their asses are great people, and tend to be much better players.

I think the reason why humble guitarists can become far better players than arrogant ones is becuase they know they always need to improve, at no point can they feel accomplished and therefore learn more.

You mentioned you are a solo guitarist, what kind of stuff do you do? I am venturing into the Preston Reed/Kaki King/Michael Hedges kind of style on acoustic using the techniques I use in solo bass on guitar. I'm just wondering if that is the sort of thing you do?

[Munky_Jam]

Led_Zeppelin678: Gee, your not an asshole at all.

well we always knew he was. the problem is he's the kind of guy that makes someone such as myself not want to listen to prog because he's (or like him)the reason for the stereotypes

[TheClap]

I guess Im lucky, both the guitarist in my band are awesome, but I had to switch to the kit when we lost our drummer, but we got this cool kid named neil to play bass for us.

Jody: Jackass keyboardist are the worst, I was sitting in with a group of guys and the keyboardist was like: "Listen guys we don't need a bassist for this, my left hand is better than he'll ever be," thats what was relayed to me the next day from the guitar player. They later kicked him out anyways, but not cause of that, and I still play with them some times.

[Anakin Skywalker]

I think the reason why humble guitarists can become far better players than arrogant ones is becuase they know they always need to improve, at no point can they feel accomplished and therefore learn more.

You mentioned you are a solo guitarist, what kind of stuff do you do? I am venturing into the Preston Reed/Kaki King/Michael Hedges kind of style on acoustic using the techniques I use in solo bass on guitar. I'm just wondering if that is the sort of thing you do?

They're also better because they play for the music, and generally have more respect for what they're playing, than for how well they can play it.

I do stuff on the lines of Joe Satriani, but with a lot less boring wankery and such. Kaki King is awesome though.

[Rawb]

When my guitarists snaps a string, he always yells to me, "BASS SOLO," while he changes the string. I don't look at this as an excuse to cover up his breakage, or as an oppertunity to take the spotlight away from anyone; but I like the fact that he recognizes my ability and does not hesitate to encourage me.

That says a lot about a musician, especially for a guitarist. Cool, humble, easy-going guitarists are very hard to find. I'd most especially rather hang out with dummers, singers, and fellow bass players.

But in the end it also depends on what type of music to play. Expect arrogant, cocky attitudes if you play in a metal, punk, emo, or screamo band.

[SquierBasser]

Yeah, those dummers are pretty cool.

[Jody LeCompte]

ferdinand5: I've generally had a good spree with keyboardist because as a keys player myself I play off of what they are playing rather than doubling it.

Half of how players treat you is how you play, but no one ever blames themselves.

[Munky_Jam]

But in the end it also depends on what type of music to play. Expect arrogant, cocky attitudes if you play in a metal, punk, emo, or screamo band.
ummm i'm going to say no here.Most punk guitarists and musicians in general that i know are quite the opposite. emo screamo i can't speak for because as it is i still don't quite get the difference - its all pop-punk to me. But punk is like the great equaliser. Every real punk musician knows that its totally DIY and every person in the audience could easily be someone on the stage. Thats the thing with punk it levels it all out. We know we're just as lame as them. thats the point.

[Left Shoe]

But in the end it also depends on what type of music to play. Expect arrogant, cocky attitudes if you play in a metal, punk, emo, or screamo band.
since when does genre of music you play define personality?

[Munky_Jam]

exactly (although i know i just defined a punk attitude but thats really what punk is, not sounds but a way of life)

[Jody LeCompte]

Look at any metal player...

I hate when music becomes a look.

[TheClap]

ferdinand5: I've generally had a good spree with keyboardist because as a keys player myself I play off of what they are playing rather than doubling it.

Half of how players treat you is how you play, but no one ever blames themselves.


I wasn't planning on doubling cause it was a improv., sit in. He just thought he didn't need a bassist. We were playing some jazz/ swing bebop stuff. In the end we ended up playing good and thanks to communication the ending was good.

[Akira]

I do stuff on the lines of Joe Satriani, but with a lot less boring wankery and such. Kaki King is awesome though.
I love Joe Satriani.

In reference to te above posts, to me punk describes personality at least as much as music. Someone who fits my definition of punk would not be an elitist *** in music.

[Jody LeCompte]

I wasn't planning on doubling cause it was a improv., sit in. He just thought he didn't need a bassist. We were playing on playing some jazz/ swing bebop stuff.
He still probably didn't have much faith in your ability to work with his own bassline.

[TheClap]

He still probably didn't have much faith in your ability to work with his own bassline.

He probly didn't but we ended up working things out ok like i said and thought he was fine with it (cause we played good) until the day after when i talked to bud (the guitarist).

[Anakin Skywalker]

I love Joe Satriani.

In reference to te above posts, to me punk describes personality at least as much as music. Someone who fits my definition of punk would not be an elitist *** in music.

Yeah man, Satriani is my favorite musician of all time. Although I do think I could do without some of his extended solos.

If you want, you can check out my stuff at www.myspace.com/sayumm.

It's kinda old though, and I took off most of the songs because I'm putting up new stuff in a couple weeks.

[katana_manatee]

Look at any metal player...

I hate when music becomes a look.

It is just the case that in certain styles of music they are bred from a sub-culture for a sub-culture. It defined the people they were, a group. There is a lot of cameraderie in metal, they perhaps feel strong together and that is defined in the music. The aesthetics were just what the culture favoured.

[Jody LeCompte]

I know, I know, But I'd still like to see a black metal band without corpse make-up.

[katana_manatee]

I know, I know, But I'd still like to see a black metal band without corpse make-up.

Actually I have to agree with you there. :lol:

[BassVirtuoso]

In conclusion:

Don't make generalizations, and people won't think you're stupid.

[Left Shoe]

joke?

[katana_manatee]

joke?

No, tr00f.

[Left Shoe]

well.... he makes a generalization about how making generalizations make you look like an idiot

[katana_manatee]

well.... he makes a generalization about how making generalizations make you look like an idiot

Ah, a paradox, I see what you mean.

[BassVirtuoso]

well.... he makes a generalization about how making generalizations make you look like an idiot

I'm glad someone got it.

[sr800bkBassist]

arrogant bassists are 10000x worse than arrogant guitarists. trust me.

[Duncster]

Yeah man, Satriani is my favorite musician of all time. Although I do think I could do without some of his extended solos.

If you want, you can check out my stuff at www.myspace.com/sayumm.

It's kinda old though, and I took off most of the songs because I'm putting up new stuff in a couple weeks.
I love your tone. That sounded like a Satriani song. Nice Soloing.

[Anakin Skywalker]

I love your tone. That sounded like a Satriani song. Nice Soloing.

Thanks man! :thumb:

That means so much to me.

[Munky_Jam]

that was pretty cool (the myspace thing)

[bottlerocket]

arrogant bassists are 10000x worse than arrogant guitarists. trust me.

Thank God! Someone shares yet another viewpoint with me!

sr800bk, we were separated at birth or something.

-Gav

[Efrim]

I clash with my guitarists ego every day.

But I have a bigger one, so I don't think it counts...

[bottlerocket]

Case and point. :p

-Gav

[mutant!]

thank you. and to make your curse words look a little less choppy, use the bold feature and make a letter bold. It's a lot easier on the eyes.


bullshit :thumb:
Thanks for the friendly advice but I know how to do it, it's just a mission. Typing other characters is much faster, and I just can't be arsed.

[lais817]

I think a mod should close this now.......

[EonBlueApoc128]

Jody: Jackass keyboardist are the worst, I was sitting in with a group of guys and the keyboardist was like: "Listen guys we don't need a bassist for this, my left hand is better than he'll ever be," thats what was relayed to me the next day from the guitar player. They later kicked him out anyways, but not cause of that, and I still play with them some times.

I'd be pissed if I was with any kind of musician and that was said to me. Even if he wasn't confident in your playing skill that's no reason to try and bring someone down... if anything fellow musicians should be encouraging of each other in a musical sense. Though, I guess this thread kind of spits on that kind of mentality, in any case.

[funkyhoney]

one of the guitarist that i know best is seriously one of the most modest, and nicest people you will ever meet. She always understands that bass is part of the band and it can't function to it's full potential without it (even if it's just rooting)
long story short, some people are arogant pricks no matter what instrument they play (if any), but far more people play guitar than drums or bass, so chances are more ****heads will play guitar than any other instrument.

/my 2c

[tomtom]

i know HEAPS of guitarists, and only one was arrogant because the first time he saw a bass was when he saw mine. i suppose that's ignorance through not having a chance to see a bass.

he now really appricaiates bass, and there are no arrogant guitarists that i know.

[Amit]

As bass players dont you find guitar players arrogant? the two in my band are bastards, the one will hurt you if you say some1's better than him and the other wont take guitar lessons to improve bcz he thinks teaching cant help him improve and he dont want the teacher to be better than him! any of you guys know any guitarists like that or worse! :thumb:

i really hope i'm the first guitarist/user from the guitar forum to post in this thread

:pretends to act shocked and surprised at such an original thread:

real punk musician

i had to lulz at this as well

[pitchfork]

Soem guitarists are arrogant and know **** all about composition, think bass is just root notes. Its mainly younger guitarists though and usually crap ones at that, nowadays mainstream has simple bass lines.

I only join a band with experienced guitarists that know, bassists like to take the lead too.

No instrument is easier than another, no instrument is harder, there are to many varibles to actually depict how hard it is.

[Criss Frantic]

When we started my band, my guitarist didn't know how to play guitar. I helped teach him, showed him basic chords and stuff. He never wanted to do solos because he thought he was too ****, so I always got the solos in our songs. Now a couple of years down the track his ability is starting to even out with mine (we're both self-taught, no lessons ever) and it's good because neither of us are under any illusions as to our skill level. We love each other very much.

And that whole thing about the genre you play defining your personality is just bullshit. Except for new hardcore :p

[twankie]

i know many guitarists and not one of them is arrogant... some are a bit disillusioned as to what their abilities are though...

we could probably let this thread die because most of us are in agreeance.

unless somebody wants to disagree...

BEING A GUITARIST DOES NOT NECESSARILY MAKE YOU A PRICK/ARROGANT. BEING A PRICK IN THE FIRST PLACE DOES THAT.

[katana_manatee]

I agree that this thread should be closed. It has long passed its usefulness without further repeating itself.

Twankie: They are not disillusioned, that would mean they are no longer under the illusion of something.

[twankie]

ah

perhaps i should have said that they are illusioned?

or: they think they're fly, but they ain't yo.

:)