How are drums made?

[actyourrage]

Somthing I've always wondered.

how are pice of wood that are ususally straight, made round when it comes to making drums? I mean do they use a really thick piece of a tree trunk and knock the centre out, then sand it down?

Judging by Premier's recent efforts on my kit, they glue individual pieces of saw dust together.

[Pleaseme]

Google may be your friend here, it'll give you a nice explaination.
Drums are rectangular laminates of wood, which are then steamed and bent into their circular shape. The plys can be many types of wood, often a single drum will contain plys of different woods e.g Birch, Beech, Mahogany etc.

[Jody LeCompte]

Man, it would suck if they were just taking a tree and sounding out the middle. Imagine trying to find a tree trunk exactly the right size of the drum you were trying to make.

[sLarkin20]

Man, it would suck if they were just taking a tree and sounding out the middle. Imagine trying to find a tree trunk exactly the right size of the drum you were trying to make.

lol, every kit would sound unique then!

[Jody LeCompte]

lol, every kit would sound unique then!
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Bad thing?

[Tang.]

I would tell you to go back to the damn bass forum, but I just went over there, and..it sucks, so I don't blame you for hanging out over here.

Enjoy your stay.

[actyourrage]

Man, it would suck if they were just taking a tree and sounding out the middle. Imagine trying to find a tree trunk exactly the right size of the drum you were trying to make.

^^ Just get one that's too big and sand the outside down aswell.

But yeah thanks for the info, I tried Google, but it was just trying to sell me homemade drums.

So if you heat wood up with steam it goes soft enough to bend, then stays hard after that? I presume that also means there's a join down the full length of the drum, presumably a weak spot? That's probably how my Premier Artist Bass Drum developed a huge a crack before I even got it.

[Jody LeCompte]

I would tell you to go back to the damn bass forum, but I just went over there, and..it sucks, so I don't blame you for hanging out over here.

Enjoy your stay.
I used to enjoy my stay over there because there was a pretty long period of jazz and funk lovin' but I guess metal is the new "cool" thing to do on bass, so Im hanging out in the jazz and drum forums.

[Tang.]

metal seems to be the new cool thing to do on all instruments these days.. my band does rock.. but more of a mellow/sublime feel to it.. we also cover some country and classic rock.. and the only gigs we get offered around here are death/speed metal shows..quite sad.

[Jody LeCompte]

metal seems to be the new cool thing to do on all instruments these days.. my band does rock.. but more of a mellow/sublime feel to it.. we also cover some country and classic rock.. and the only gigs we get offered around here are death/speed metal shows..quite sad.
Well, what finally did me in was that "Best metal riff songs" thread. Every band and song was like "Death's Bloody Elk Carcass - The Serenade of a Dying French Whore Strewn Across Suicide's Bloody Knife of Satan".

So I figured, bass is half rhythm and half notes, so I'm going to disappear into the drum forum.

[sLarkin20]

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Bad thing?

It was kind of sarcastic big guy

[Loser]

Man, it would suck if they were just taking a tree and sounding out the middle. Imagine trying to find a tree trunk exactly the right size of the drum you were trying to make.


There is actually a smaller custom drum company that does that.

[FullMoon]

didnt parridlle pete make his own drum

[Jody LeCompte]

There is actually a smaller custom drum company that does that.
Do they sound good?

[Drum Phil]

They're made by magical creatures called the Drumpa Lumpas.

Do not question the Drumpa Lumpas

[Pleaseme]

Do they sound good?

I guess so, sounds like a horrible waste of wood but whatever floats their customer's boats.
There are what are known as 'stave' shells which are basically blocks of wood butt-joined together to form a quite thick circular shell. Never heard one but they're rather good apparently. Mostly they're used for snares.

[pitchfork]

Judging by Premier's recent efforts on my kit, they glue individual pieces of saw dust together.

I'm going to pretend I didn't hear you flaming premier and not kick your door down and hit you with a pair of aheads.
If you promise you never flame them again.
:smash:
:eek:

[Pleaseme]

No, that's purely how a crack would be mended, using a glue and sawdust mixed together.

[TTTSNB]

Well, what finally did me in was that "Best metal riff songs" thread. Every band and song was like "Death's Bloody Elk Carcass - The Serenade of a Dying French Whore Strewn Across Suicide's Bloody Knife of Satan".

So I figured, bass is half rhythm and half notes, so I'm going to disappear into the drum forum.
:rolleyes: Do you really know anything about metal? Alot of the bands may have stupid names, but its certainly not the plebian, pedestrian genre you make it out to be.

[Ming-a-Ling]

:rolleyes: Do you really know anything about metal? Alot of the bands may have stupid names, but its certainly not the plebian, pedestrian genre you make it out to be.

:rolleyes:

[ofDooM]

most shells are made from different plies steamed to bend in the round circle shape. some are made from different blocks of wood shaped somewhat into a circle, then lathed down to make it nice and round. like some have said up there, some people make their shells out of a big tree. there are some others i forgot though.

[We_Love_Lime]

Meh.

[Tang.]

Why is it that the record companies must push conformity?
Why is it that all the new music is about hate, self loathing. etc???
What happened to Rock, having a good time, getting laid, drunk, high, etc???

80's-90's heavy metal was great but now.. in the 00's..its all about death, and dying ..and all that stuff..I don't want to hear that.. don't get me wrong there are many songs that are dark..yet really really good.. some of it is greattt but..some is...eh...

Now-a-days Metal (NU Metal or w/e the **** its called) usually has these characterisitcs..

1) Try to look moody, angst-filled, scary, cool in pictures and/or music videos.
2) Do tons upon tons of interviews, photo ops, destroy their instruments on stage. (Because the label will buy them newer, and better ones.)
3) Do more talking to the crowd than preforming.
4) Have a guy in the band that looks like he's ready to suck someone off at all times.

[PandaDrummer]

lol poor ttsnb,
he's a metal head... down to the very last brain cell.
which is fine, I like the musical part of some metal,
but like hxc music, I hate screaming

[maniac0796]

1) Try to look moody, angst-filled, scary, cool in pictures and/or music videos.
2) Do tons upon tons of interviews, photo ops, destroy their instruments on stage. (Because the label will buy them newer, and better ones.)
3) Do more talking to the crowd than preforming.
4) Have a guy in the band that looks like he's ready to suck someone off at all times.

Correction, all 4 of those describe emo fags in my opinion. And i'll add to that list:
5) The men actually wear more make up than women.

I'm regarded as a metal head. But, i aggree with you. I think most popular metal since 2000 is abosultly crap. But there are a few discreet, unknown bands which i like, say, bloodsimple. And there is one or two bands that are mainstream, which i like, say, trivium.

[Seafroggys]

metal is overrated, almost every band in existence wants to do metal, emo, or hardcore. Nothing else. It really sucks balls.

[stevoibanez]

There is actually a smaller custom drum company that does that.
They are called Luka and are based in Quebec, Canada.

[zfzgg]

Ooh ooh ooh!

Could it be that i have something worthwhile to add?

http://www.bradydrums.com.au/index.php?id=solid

Solid drums. I want.

[green242]

There is actually a smaller custom drum company that does that.
I would find that hard to belive. Wood is weak as hell when the grain is in that direction. Because the grain grows up the tree, not across. So when the centre of the tree was cut out, the shell would be extremely weak, and the tension of the bolts going through the shell would almost want to tear upwords on the shell because of this. I am possibly wrong, maby there is some way around this. But I know for a fact, wood is stronger when the grain is moving around the shell, and not straight up and down.
edit: guess i stand corrected

[spike9908]

Thats such a waste of wood. They could make at least 10 drums from the wood that they carve out.

To zfzgg

[The Fiction We Live]

:rolleyes: Do you really know anything about metal? Alot of the bands may have stupid names, but its certainly not the plebian, pedestrian genre you make it out to be.

It is called "Death Metal" these days is it not? I'm not arguing about the music.. just the names because I listen to some of it. Some people may get the wrong impression. Let's review some band names..

Anal Blast
Angel Corpse
Bane
Beheaded
Bleeding Display
Blood Coven
Bloodgasm
Butchery
Cannibal Corpse
Catastrophic
Coffin Texts
Corpsevomit
Cryptopsy
Dead Jesus
Decay Of Salvation
Defleshed
Dismembered Fetus
Dying Fetus
Evil Incarnate
Fleshgrind
God Dethroned
Hate
Hate Eternal
Hellwitch
Infest And Corrupt
Inflames
Internal Bleeding
Morbid Angel
Neurosis
Nun Slaughter
Obituary
Purge Cannister
Sadistic Intent
Skinless
Slaughter Of Souls
Solstice of Suffering
Suffocation
Victims of Internal Decay
Wormed
Viral Load
Visceral Bleeding
Vomit Remnants

--Credit to deathmetal.com

[TTTSNB]

:rolleyes:
Ok, well alot of it is, but same with rock, some jazz, etc, there is a great deal of interesting metal out there. Metal isn't just Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, Metallica.

[TTTSNB]

It is called "Death Metal" these days is it not? I'm not arguing about the music.. just the names because I listen to some of it. Some people may get the wrong impression. Let's review some band names..

Anal Blast
Angel Corpse
Bane
Beheaded
Bleeding Display
Blood Coven
Bloodgasm
Butchery
Cannibal Corpse
Catastrophic
Coffin Texts
Corpsevomit
Cryptopsy
Dead Jesus
Decay Of Salvation
Defleshed
Dismembered Fetus
Dying Fetus
Evil Incarnate
Fleshgrind
God Dethroned
Hate
Hate Eternal
Hellwitch
Infest And Corrupt
Inflames
Internal Bleeding
Morbid Angel
Neurosis
Nun Slaughter
Obituary
Purge Cannister
Sadistic Intent
Skinless
Slaughter Of Souls
Solstice of Suffering
Suffocation
Victims of Internal Decay
Wormed
Viral Load
Visceral Bleeding
Vomit Remnants

--Credit to deathmetal.com
Well, there's a million different genres and subgenres, Death Metal is just one of them. I'll agree that the names are stupid, I'm the first one to make fun of them, but I guess its just the image the bands want to portray. They don't care about being commercial, so they have the most ridiculously unsellable names on purpose.

[zfzgg]

Thats such a waste of wood. They could make at least 10 drums from the wood that they carve out.

To zfzgg

True, but i imagine they'd sound pretty unique.

Anyone ever played a solid-shell?

Damo?

Argh, he's not gonna see this anyway.

:)

[Pleaseme]

I would find that hard to belive. Wood is weak as hell when the grain is in that direction. Because the grain grows up the tree, not across. So when the centre of the tree was cut out, the shell would be extremely weak, and the tension of the bolts going through the shell would almost want to tear upwords on the shell because of this. I am possibly wrong, maby there is some way around this. But I know for a fact, wood is stronger when the grain is moving around the shell, and not straight up and down.
edit: guess i stand corrected

I'd agree with you there, but for some reason it doesn't appear to be the case. How awfully queer.