Pop Filters

[rockbrigade]

is it really necessary to use a pop filter iif your going to use an sm 57 for vocals???

ive never used an sm57 before so if anyone had any advice on needing a pop filter or not thatd be appreciated.....

o and does a windscreen help just as much as a pop filter?

[Seafroggys]

yes

[Nicko_Shmicko]

yes.

[Idle Mind]

Coathanger + pair of tights = sorted

Of course, if you have spare money then buy a proper one, but thats a good way to get a free alternative that works pretty well.

[the_uber_penguin]

I just put my brothers fishnet top over the microphone.

It smells bad, but works brilliantly as a pop filter.

[Merkaba]

yes

[vizo]

The major, not only, difference between the 57 and 58 is simply the windscreen or lack thereof. Why don't you just get your hands on a 58 and save yourself some trouble?

[shayne_122]

The major, not only, difference between the 57 and 58 is simply the windscreen or lack thereof. Why don't you just get your hands on a 58 and save yourself some trouble?


There IS a major difference in tonal quality between the two, unlike most people seem to notice.

The live sound of the SM58 for vocals is preffered because of acoustic reasons, and how it treats bass and warmth from vocals.

The SM57 has a much flatter frequency response, allowing for more of a transparent recorded song.

[Blakfeld]

Pop filters of course are nessacary, but Ive found putting a sock over the mic works wonders.

[Merkaba]

The major, not only, difference between the 57 and 58 is simply the windscreen or lack thereof. Why don't you just get your hands on a 58 and save yourself some trouble?
You'd still need a filter

Threadstarter if youre serious about doing any decent recording as a serious vocalist just plan on getting a gooseneck with a pop filter on it. Its standard for any mid to lower end microphone. Start saving up or whatever. meanwhile a closehanger bent to a circle with a stocking over it is really close.

[vizo]

There IS a major difference in tonal quality between the two, unlike most people seem to notice.

I know there is, hence why I said there were more differences.

[jurialmunkey]

If you are recording vocals with any microphone, you should use a pop filter.

[211dave112]

i made a pop-filterouy of coat hanger and a pair of tights, it looks so awful it's the ugliest thing i've ever made but it really does work and vocals sound so much better, and clearer overall.

[shayne_122]

I know there is, hence why I said there were more differences.


Oh, whoopsies.
my bad.:)

[slpntrx5]

what's better for recording: a pop filter or a windscreen?

[shayne_122]

what's better for recording: a pop filter or a windscreen?


:eek:
you're so scene.

:)


Anyways, preferably both. It depends what sonically pleases you more, the sound of breathing or loud "PUH" or "PEH" sounds.

Personally I'd prefer a pop filter.

[jurialmunkey]

The major, not only, difference between the 57 and 58 is simply the windscreen or lack thereof. Why don't you just get your hands on a 58 and save yourself some trouble?

There IS a major difference in tonal quality between the two, unlike most people seem to notice.

The live sound of the SM58 for vocals is preffered because of acoustic reasons, and how it treats bass and warmth from vocals.

The SM57 has a much flatter frequency response, allowing for more of a transparent recorded song.


Both of you are half right and half wrong. The Major Difference the 58 has over the 57 IS the INTERNAL WINDSCREEN and the ROUND BALL. The actual mics are identical. The have the same frequency response... The windscreen and ball are what alters the sound of the mic. The ball because you cant get as close up on the diaphram of the mic and get the bass boost.


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"The SM57 is a dynamic microphone with a cardioid, directional pattern. Dynamic mics sound different than condenser mics, which are better for capturing hi and low frequencies."

"You can scream into the sm57 and the mic will not shatter (unless you are practically jamming it down your throat). If you have a screamer in the studio and hear that awful distortion coming from your premium condenser, its time to pack it up and break out the good 'ol 57. For vocals the SM57 has a rich proximity effect. If you get within a few inches you'll get a bass boost, which is quite predictable, so it is often used as an effect by spoken word, comedians and in rap. Shure claims the SM57 has been used by thirty US Presidents as their mic of choice for speeches. It's easy to see why. The Mic has the classic presence boost in the vocal range which provides for intelligibility, yet it resists feedback. "

"People sometimes wonder about the difference between the SM57 and the SM58. Internally, they are identical mics, yet the SM58 has the "round ball" on top and an internal windscreen. Because the ball forces one to be a greater distance from the mic's diaphragm, the proximity effect is lessened and the windscreen can also dampen the hi frequency response as it cuts wind noise. The SM57, with its shorter grille design, allows you to get closer to the source and therefore has a greater proximity effect and will be more susceptible to wind noise. Hence vocalists on stage tend to prefer the sm58 while those in the studio might prefer an sm57 with a pop filter in front of it."

Sourced From:
http://www.tweakheadz.com/review_of_the_sm57.htm


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[Merkaba]

Isnt this like the third time this month we've gone over this dam Sure mic argument : rolleyes:

[kevbud187]

it's actually spelled "Shure"

A) The mics are different trust me I know
B) Use a condensor for recorded vocals
C) Yes, you need a popfilter for a condensor
D) Use a 58 for live vocals duh

--that website means nothing to me. I have dismantled some of these babys and because of proximity differences mentioned there are minute differences in the specs of internal electronic that are used such as transitors and resistors.

kthxbi