Wow, now I understand the merits of Stick Control

[Icky_Mettle]

I recently bought it, and thanks to the instructions of repeating 20 times, it's kind of exposed my obvious lack of endurance, as I can barely keep it up as long as I'm supposed to. This is just the first page mind you, and I've had it for a couple days. I've also been doing some of the rudiments with open rolls, which is what my teacher told me to do....I love you guys!

Never would've found it without your high reguards for it.

[Skin Beater]

Yeah most the stuff that comes highly recommended by this board is for good reason. A lot of beginners don't believe what the senior members on this board keep pushing, it's sort of like their parents telling them what to do. But then comes a day when they realize how much this "boring" stuff will really benefit your playing. So in closing kids:

PLAY TO A METRONOME
BUY STICK CONTROL
BUY NEW BREED
WORK ON YOUR RUDIMENTS

[Icky_Mettle]

Nevermind what I was saying, I should buy a metronome soon.

[Sunshine]

Haha, ever since I heard about Stick Control I wanted it.

Got it yesterday.

Sure, it looks boring, but...the idea of learning all of it and getting better [which, going through the first page, I could already tell was happening] WAY overcomes the boring part. Way.

[Pauly]

Playing any of the stickings on the first page at 40bpm really wears you out, its the longest 4 minutes of your life.

When I originally attempted the Triplets section at 40bpm, it was one of the hardest exercises I had done. Its true how they say its sometimes harder to play it slow than it is fast.

[Chrysostom]

I could get Stick Control/New Breed in the UK right?

[dumbassdrummer]

"When I originally attempted the Triplets section at 40bpm, it was one of the hardest exercises I had done. Its true how they say its sometimes harder to play it slow than it is fast."

This is why for the past week I've only been practicing at 40 bpm (the slowest speed on my metronome). It's tough, but eventually you'll start to internalize the 1,2,3 and 4.

[PMSKnives]

I have my copy ordered and am anxiously awaiting its arrival....

Mark

[Corkofski]

i *cough*have a copy *cough cough* that i can *cough* share

init_bruv@hotmail.co.uk on msn

[Snarz]

could you like send me the first page ?

[Sthrudel]

Is there anyone who can play 32nd exercise on 46th page cleanly and smoothly at 46 bpm (that means 8 clicks till you reach the end of the exercise)?

It's a nightmare for me (I'm still a little bit of perfectionist). I keep falling out of time...

[jalel]

Nothing wrong with being a perfectionist, it will actually benefit you in the long run. You will eventually realize that it is next to impossible to play everything perfect and will constantly strive to achieve "perfection." This will lead you on the path to monster chops.....

[Josiah]

^ Exactly.


Sthrudel, I and many others can play that excerise and a wide range of tempo. Remember though it's not about speed, it's about being clean. What you are doing is exactly right, it can be fustrating but hee pay offs are well worth it.
Remember too to count outloud, 16ths or 8ths.

[milkmit]

icky, if you have an mp3 player and want to use it as a metronome, check out the mp3s I've created:
http://www.obleek.com/stuff/musiciansforums/metronome/

click_96bpm.mp3 is a sample, and the other two are zipped with a half set (generally, every other standard bpm increase from 60 - 176) and a full set (60 - 192).

they work well if you have an ipod (or other mp3 player), but for some really weird reason the timing gets very slightly distorted when you convert them back to .wav and burn them to a cd. that's happened with myself and another person here who downloaded them.

[Sthrudel]

^ Exactly.


Sthrudel, I and many others can play that excerise and a wide range of tempo. Remember though it's not about speed, it's about being clean. What you are doing is exactly right, it can be fustrating but hee pay offs are well worth it.
Remember too to count outloud, 16ths or 8ths.Well I can play it too, but for me it's when I'll be able to play it without hearing the clicks (I keep metronome volume low to a degree where I can't hear the clicks if I play in time).

[Sunshine]

Suh-WEET.

I don't have a metronome T-T

Not that I'm Icky or anything. But hey. I have the same problem.

[Josiah]

Well I can play it too, but for me it's when I'll be able to play it without hearing the clicks (I keep metronome volume low to a degree where I can't hear the clicks if I play in time).

Awesome, that's indeed the right thing to do. Making the click dissapear or "burying" it is when you know your in time.

Strive for that on everything. Dont' worry, take it slow and slowly increase the tempo. Great things will come.


Don't forget to stretch out your fingers, wrists and hands!

[lmldrummer]

For people without metronomes, http://www.metronomeonline.com

[Sunshine]

The only problem with THAT (^) is...well...my drumset and computer are in two TOTALLY different areas o' the house.

[Josiah]

Check out the Korg KMD2 it's $60. Last you forver and do more then you'll ever need.

[Sunshine]

Ehhh I'll get around to it eventually.

I'll probably just end up getting a Japanese one. Sure, everything is expensive in Japan, but crap like tuners and the like are not only pretty cheap, they last freaking forever. Like all Japanese products.

All being a slight exaggeration, of course.

[Josiah]

huh?

[Sunshine]

Thinking out loud.

Typing, rather.

Metronome.

In Japan.

Buying.

[Josiah]

Ah well buyt he Korg kmd 2 in japan! And konichiwa!

[Sunshine]

Konnichiwa, genki desu ka?

Nihonnisundeimasu ^-^

[lmldrummer]

The only problem with THAT (^) is...well...my drumset and computer are in two TOTALLY different areas o' the house.

Mine are on two complete different floors, but you can use a practice pad for rudiments and stuff, or a desk. I just leave my pad and a pair of sticks next to my computer.

[Sunshine]

True.

But I've not a pad yet.

I've gotten around to doing things quite backwards.

[lmldrummer]

I've gotten around to doing things quite backwards.


I don't get what you mean by "backwards".

[Sunshine]

Set before pad, mebe?

[NewMetman]

I wish i had the will power to use this all the time. I know its good for you, but once i start, ill quickly lose focus and turn up the rush on my stereo

[lmldrummer]

Oh, my bad

[Sunshine]

Ja.

Ah well.

I'll get it all figured out eventually and be all sortza right on track ^-^

[some jive turkey]

Check out the Korg KMD2 it's $60. Last you forver and do more then you'll ever need.
That metronome rocks. i special ordered one last winter and was raving about it to everyone.

[Joe87Mapex]

hey everyone. I'd like to consider myself an advanced drummer, but seeing the excercises you guys are talking about and what ur attempting to do with them made me realise i need a lot of work. But anyway, i'd like to think i've still got a good ear. Speaking of which, i've made my first tab on www.mxtabs.net If any of you are members on that site, please listen to the song and approve or dissapprove my tab. I'd like to see if my music listening skills are at a good level. The tab is one of the more recently added tabs, and its of the song "Symphony of Destruction" by Megadeth. Thanks a lot guys, ur input would really help in my overall skill building as a drummer.

You advanced drumers, correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe that learning how to listen to a song and tab it can even help your creative skills in the way of coming up with new beats, fills and solo material by learning what previous' drummers' material of that sort sounds like and looks like on paper. Is that right?

[Sthrudel]

Awesome, that's indeed the right thing to do. Making the click dissapear or "burying" it is when you know your in time.

Strive for that on everything. Dont' worry, take it slow and slowly increase the tempo. Great things will come.


Don't forget to stretch out your fingers, wrists and hands!Slow tempos are the real pain in the as* for me not the fast ones. Although keeping fast 16th notes or 8th notes for that matter on the hi-hat for the longer period of time is diffucult to. I guess that comes when playing that kind of music.

[ilikenoise]

can somebody scan page 1 please

[Sunshine]

Y'know, you've asked like 3 times.

I'm pretty sure if nobody HAS yet, they're not GOING to.

I don't know about everybody else, but I don't even have a scanner. So.

[ilikenoise]

Y'know, you've asked like 3 times.

I'm pretty sure if nobody HAS yet, they're not GOING to.

I don't know about everybody else, but I don't even have a scanner. So.

twice.

miserable.

[Sthrudel]

I can... Give me your email...

[ilikenoise]

Cheers!

That man is a legend! Somebody rep+ him (or whatever it is)

[Sthrudel]

Ahh shut up :)