I Used To Bullseye Womp Rats In My T-16 Back Home[Star Wars Thread]

[Surtr]

Dicuss anything Star Wars in here. :thumb:

[Zakath]

JarJar is a homo.

[Mr. Ron]

JarJar is a homo.
One of the worst characters I've ever seen in a movie.

[Surtr]

JarJar was a rather large dissapointment.

[Scoot]

Mesa ruin da movie.

[Amit]

Jar Jar = :downs:

[Zakath]

hey who was that fag who looked like Amit.. calrissian.. yea that brownie sucked too.

:amaze:

[Amit]

Now you're just grasping for straws >:[

[Zakath]

I'm just trying to distract you while I spam a lot to catch up to your post count.

[AA-12]

Star Wars kicks ***.

[Surtr]

Agreed. SW is without a doubt my favorite movie/trilogy/saga ever.

[Scoot]

KOTOR = great game.

KOTOR II = not as much.

[Kif]

I heard they are finally releasing the 6 movies as a set... on blu-ray next year.

Pissed off about that, since I've been waiting for the complete set to be released (I'm not splashing out on DVDs just to rebuy later)

[Amit]

I'm just trying to distract you while I spam a lot to catch up to your post count.

haha fair enough

[EightMilesHigh]

Star Wars is awesome, I was just watching A New Hope in class a while ago. Classic movies, Return Of The Jedi is my favorite.

[Surtr]

KOTOR = great game.

KOTOR II = not as much.
KOTOR II=Waste of Money.

Nice graphics, waste of money.

[Scoot]

The graphics were almost exactly the same as KOTOR I.

[CRONITOR]

I wish i had stormtrooper armor

[Untitled]

I wish i had stormtrooper armor
Buy it off Ebay.

And Kotor = Fantastic game
Kotor II - I still like, and stuff, but not as good.

[EinzingerIsGod]

Original trilogy > Newer trilogy

/obvious

[CRONITOR]

anyone ever play dark forces? WAY old game

[EinzingerIsGod]

Dark Forces was awesome. I used to play that all the time on PS1 I think.

[CRONITOR]

Dark Forces was awesome. I used to play that all the time on PS1 I think.

i got it along with Full throttle, on PC

[EinzingerIsGod]

Lucky you

[Untitled]

Is that the origonal Jedi Knight?

If so, i used to play that online with some of my mates. It was fun.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Original trilogy > Newer trilogy

/obvious

Agreed, but...

Newer trilogy = still good

Probably my favorite movies ever. Maybe one of the best stories ever told through film.

[Surtr]

anyone ever play dark forces? WAY old game
I've played that tons.

For those of you who have played Battlefront II, I think we can agree, at least playing wise..Clones > Stormtroopers.

I'm an imperial man myself though.

[benfan]

Dark forces was an awesome game!! i used to play it all the time

[wonder_steve]

I would not rate the first two in the same class as the original three but the third is something different for me. I absolutely loved the way it was shown. The storyline was fantastic and I really felt the tradegy at the loss of the jedi.

[Surtr]

Yeah.

Episode VI > IV > III > V > II =/= I

[Hep Kat]

Mx Jedi Council Member representin' :cool:




Too bad the mods wouldn't roll with that :(

[masada]

I think it's about time for a Chewbaca primetime spinoff.

The Wookie Family amirite? Those crazzzyyyy wookies and their shenanigans! What will they do next?

[Tails]

I think it's about time for a Chewbaca primetime spinoff.

The Wookie Family amirite? Those crazzzyyyy wookies and their shenanigans! What will they do next?

It better feature Lumpy.


So Lucas is releasing the OT 1977-1983 theatrical versions on DVD this fall. :cool:

[Surtr]

Mx Jedi Council Member representin' :cool:




Too bad the mods wouldn't roll with that :(
Mx Sith Council Memeber :cool:

Haha, that was such a mess.

[[Shadowfox]]

So Lucas is releasing the OT 1977-1983 theatrical versions on DVD this fall. :cool:

Best thing to happen to Star Wars in a while, IMO.

Anyone else looking forward to the live-action show?

[Samuel]

Star Wars is great. The originals were way beyond the new ones though. Clone Wars was sort of weak all around, and the characters in Phantom Menace were annoying. Revenge of the Sith was okay, but still had that sort of grasping for straws, check out those big explosions kind of feel.

KOTOR = One of the better games ever released. Definitely the best Star Wars, including Tie Fighter.
KOTOR II = Better than KOTOR in gameplay, but the story just kind of left you going "eh?".


Oh, and John Williams' scores are masterpieces of modern film music in their own right. A New Hope pretty much saved the world of film scoring from the depths of utter ****, or worse, ABBA.

[Chanandler Bong]

Is there any news about a possible KOTOR III?

[Incognito]

[QUOTE=Incognito]Agreed.

John Williams is pure genius.

Am I the only one here who wants the original trilogy on DVD without all the "fixing" that Lucash (made a funny!) did? I don't mind making the sound or picture clearer, but as the saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

YTMND Star wars meme...I liked it.

http://allnightlongohyeah.ytmnd.com/

[Tails]

Agreed.

John Williams is pure genius.

Am I the only one here who wants the original trilogy on DVD without all the "fixing" that Lucash (made a funny!) did? I don't mind making the sound or picture clearer, but as the saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it.


http://allnightlongohyeah.ytmnd.com/ (YTMND Star wars meme...I liked it...)

Original theatricals are coming to DVD this fall. :)Apparently without and clean up though :(

At least ROTJ won't be a pain to watch until after Jabba's Palace.

[Samuel]

Is there any news about a possible KOTOR III?
It's "officially unconfirmed". Last thing I heard about it were rumours that Obsidian definitely had the contract to help produce it though. Which is pretty nice.

[ashman]

Aren't they releasing the unremastered version sometime this year? Then realising the 6 set with the remastered trilogy and then with the unremastered version?

Seems like Lucas is money grabbing :p

[Pop music sucks]

Remasterd DVD < Original pressings


I mean, audio/visual restoration of the DVD's were wonderful. But yet again, as with his other re-releases, we see crap that we don't need to see changed/added.

[Crapdragoon]

STAR TREK IS BETTER!

/chuckles and requests a beam up

/gone

[Surtr]

STAR TREK IS BETTER!

/chuckles and requests a beam up

/gone
:p

Fortunatly your wrong.

Star Wars > Star Trek.

Though some of Star Trek wasn't bad.

[bradc1988]

I downloaded all 6 about a month ago, man they kick ***. I watched IV all the way through at it's awesome, probably my favourite of the series.

[Reactor158]

So, I just watched some of Episode III a couple days ago. Anakin is a fag. Anyways, I heard this chick at school sat that there were going to be three more movies, taking place after Return of the Jedi. Is there some truth to this, or is it just total BS, as I suspect?

EDIT: I just saw the post w/ "STAR TREK IS BETTER"

NO!!

The Next Generation was okay, but the rest, no. I mean, come on, how many Star Trek TV shows have there been? At least 3. Star Trek just got old. And it wasn't as good as Star Wars to begin with.

[Untitled]

So, I just watched some of Episode III a couple days ago. Anakin is a fag. Anyways, I heard this chick at school sat that there were going to be three more movies, taking place after Return of the Jedi. Is there some truth to this, or is it just total BS, as I suspect?

EDIT: I just saw the post w/ "STAR TREK IS BETTER"

NO!!

The Next Generation was okay, but the rest, no. I mean, come on, how many Star Trek TV shows have there been? At least 3. Star Trek just got old. And it wasn't as good as Star Wars to begin with.
Ive heard they'll be another 3 movies, as much as id like the, i dont wanna have them doen 'cause they'll just get screwed up lik I and II

[Surtr]

I've heard the other three movies thing too..I'm 90% sure it's pure bull****.

[team_racket]

i plan on watching them all sometime next week. re-live the excitement.

[Pop music sucks]

Yeah, the post trilogy won't happen.

[-=Led_Hed=-]

i saw Lucas on the interview on the remastered VHS, he said there is a good story after the end of ROTJ but its not likely he's gonna make em, would be cool though, all the actors are old and fat enough to play the parts :smoke:

Any favourite lines...

Flyin through hyperspace ain't like dustin crops kid, u might fly through a super nova or bounce right off a star, that would end your trip real quick wouldn't it!

[Pop music sucks]

It's actually "...ain't like dustin crops boy..."

:p

[Crapdragoon]

star trek the next generation > lyfe

[Surtr]

Sadly enough one of my favorite lines is: "Luke..I Am Your Father".

Even if it is really corny feeling and **** it's still awesome.

[Incognito]

Sadly enough one of my favorite lines is: "Luke..I Am Your Father".

Even if it is really corny feeling and **** it's still awesome.


Sadly enough, that's not even a line in the movie.

Vadar tells Luke that Obi wan never told him what happen to his father. Luke replies that obi wan had told him enough and that he told him Vadar killed his father to which Vadar replies "No, I am your father".

[Pop music sucks]

"No....that's not true, that's not true, that's impossible!"
"Search your feelings, you know it to be true."
"..:mad:+:upset: NOoooOOOoooo."
"Join me, together as father and son we can rule the galaxy."
"I'll never join you!"


or something like that (continuation from Incognito's post)

[Seafroggys]

Best lines:

"I happen to like nice men."

"I'm a nice man."

"No you're not."

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I just saw Star Wars Episode 1.1: The Phantom Edit. I must say the editor did a pretty damn good job. It's a much tighter and definitely a better movie than the original version. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars/The_Phantom_Edit

And for me, The Empire Strikes Back is my favorite by far.


Yeah.

Episode VI > IV > III > V > II =/= I

Yeah, I puked when I saw that. :p

[The Buttloaves]

Original trilogy > Newer trilogy

/obvious
I second this with the exception that Episode III/Episode I (as in very first film, actual Episode 1 sucked) was badass

[AA-12]

I really need to watch the oldies again.

[Incognito]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pe8NoccaGT8&search=kenner

Haha, check that out, I thought it was neat.

Anyway ya, can't wait for a re-release of the OT on DVD that haven't been tampered with...

[Pop music sucks]

Yep, I pre-ordered my Original Version Star Wars trilogy (widescreen edition) last night:cool:

I seriously can't wait until 9/12:D

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Are the DVD's of the actual original movies? Should I expect to have a movie called Star Wars instead of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope? That'd be fantastic if they are the original theatrical versions. There's so many mistakes and goofs in them, but that's part of the charm of them. Though, I do like the '95 editions that fixed up some visual errors and made the sound better.

[Incognito]

Are the DVD's of the actual original movies? Should I expect to have a movie called Star Wars instead of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope? That'd be fantastic if they are the original theatrical versions. There's so many mistakes and goofs in them, but that's part of the charm of them. Though, I do like the '95 editions that fixed up some visual errors and made the sound better.


Ya I have those on VHS still, I watch them over the "touched up" *cough*crappy*cough* versions that already came out on DVD.

[burning star IV]

Wait. They're re-releasing the original trilogy that air in theaters? That's so sweet. You can bet your *** I'm getting it.

[Surtr]

Hey, my thread has been revived :)

Any idea where I could find a copy of this "The Phantom Edit"?

[Seafroggys]

Are the DVD's of the actual original movies? Should I expect to have a movie called Star Wars instead of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope? That'd be fantastic if they are the original theatrical versions. There's so many mistakes and goofs in them, but that's part of the charm of them. Though, I do like the '95 editions that fixed up some visual errors and made the sound better.

the THX versions with the Vader, Stormtrooper, and Yoda face on each of the three movies?

Those are the copies I own. They should release those on DVD instead, after all they are the originals, and they digitally enhance EVERYTHING released for DVD anyways, so why not Star Wars?

[Pop music sucks]

I'm guessing it's just an audio and visual enhancement. Strictly to the point of restoration and that's it.

At least, the OT DVD's better be.

I also have those tapes you speak of.

[Incognito]

Hey, my thread has been revived :)

Any idea where I could find a copy of this "The Phantom Edit"?


AH no idea, but if you ever find it post it in here for us please.

[Surtr]

AH no idea, but if you ever find it post it in here for us please.
How could I not? :p

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I found Episode 1.1 - The Phantom Edit at mininova.org. You need to use a torrent program to get it. It's a huge file, though, but definitely worth the download. It completely outdoes the original Lucas version.



the THX versions with the Vader, Stormtrooper, and Yoda face on each of the three movies?

Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I just saw Star Wars Episode 1.1: The Phantom Edit. I must say the editor did a pretty damn good job. It's a much tighter and definitely a better movie than the original version. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars/The_Phantom_Edit

And for me, The Empire Strikes Back is my favorite by far.



wow, I really want to see those now, especially Balance of the force.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

See, I have no interest in seeing the other 2 edits mentioned in that wiki article. They actually change the characters and the story, while The Phantom Edit is more like the original movie going through a better editor, without the editor changing the movie to fit a story that he feels Episode 1 should have been. Ya know?

[Pop music sucks]

Sounds really great.

I should download that, but that's gotta wait until I'm reconnected!

[FlyingPaul_83]

See, I have no interest in seeing the other 2 edits mentioned in that wiki article. They actually change the characters and the story, while The Phantom Edit is more like the original movie going through a better editor, without the editor changing the movie to fit a story that he feels Episode 1 should have been. Ya know?

yea I see what you mean, but it ould just be pretty cool to see how he changed the story and if it all makes sense. I would also like to see the phantom re-edit, just to see how they made jar jar "wise and sensitive to the force".

edit: 1.1% done with the phantom edit :cool:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Yeah, that's true. It'll be interesting to see how Jar Jar is changed.

"The Phantom Editor" also did an edit of Ep. II called Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Phantom. I read that it's even better. So, I gotta' see that and I'll take a guess and say that he'll do an edit for Episode III eventually as well. Can't wait for that either.

[Seafroggys]

Yeah, that's true. It'll be interesting to see how Jar Jar is changed.

"The Phantom Editor" also did an edit of Ep. II called Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Phantom. I read that it's even better. So, I gotta' see that and I'll take a guess and say that he'll do an edit for Episode III eventually as well. Can't wait for that either.

Episode III will be hard to make better, as IMO it was a great film (definitally one of the best SW films). There were some problems with pace and stuff that could definitally make better if fixed, however.

[burning star IV]

Were can I find a copy of these "Phantom Edits"?

[FlyingPaul_83]

Were can I find a copy of these "Phantom Edits"?

Well I'm getting the phantom edit from the site that you gotta be crazy posted: mininova.org. Its a torrent. Currently at 45.2% :naughty:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Episode III will be hard to make better, as IMO it was a great film (definitally one of the best SW films). There were some problems with pace and stuff that could definitally make better if fixed, however.

I felt it was definitely the best of the Prequel Trilogy. The flaws I found in it I doubt could be fixed just by editing. Some of the scenes weren't quite executed as well as they could have been. I thought the acting was absolutely atrocious at times (the scene where Windu is killed by Anakin and Palpatine tries to play it off like an innocent man), but still not bad overall. The "NOOOOOO!" line at the end is rediculous. Overall, though, the dialogue was actually good. Lucas got the help from a playwriter, who did a little ghost writing for the script. You can definitely hear the difference in dialogue between III and II. "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause." is a fantastic line.

[Surtr]

Haha yeah, I love that line. So awesome.

But the "NOOO!" was just plain stupid. I actually burst out laughing at that point :(

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I just kind of cringed. I can't imagine what it would have been like being in a theatre on opening night with all the die hard fans reacting to that line. It's kind of funny in a way, though, because Luke yelps out an embarrasing "NOOOOOOOO!" at the end of The Empire Strikes Back after he finds out that Vader is his father. Perhaps Lucas was just trying to make the connection there?

[FlyingPaul_83]

I just kind of cringed. I can't imagine what it would have been like being in a theatre on opening night with all the die hard fans reacting to that line. It's kind of funny in a way, though, because Luke yelps out an embarrasing "NOOOOOOOO!" at the end of The Empire Strikes Back after he finds out that Vader is his father. Perhaps Lucas was just trying to make the connection there?


hey, which pahntom edit did you download from mininova? the 4gb one or the 1gb one? And, what media player did you play it with?

I downloaded both and I cant play either one.

edit: nevermind I got it :D yes!

/watches

[Incognito]

http://media.odeo.com/7/8/6/06_Cantina_Band.mp3

A must-hear for any star wars fans!

Best freakin' thing I've heard all year!

[EightMilesHigh]

Sadly enough one of my favorite lines is: "Luke..I Am Your Father".

Even if it is really corny feeling and **** it's still awesome.

Chewbacca: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgh
C-3PO: He made a fair move. Screaming about it can't help you.
Han Solo: Let him have it. It's not wise to upset a Wookiee.
C-3PO: But sir, nobody worries about upsetting a droid.
Han Solo: That's 'cause droids don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose. Wookiees are known to do that.
Chewbacca: Grrf.
C-3PO: I see your point, sir. I suggest a new strategy, R2: let the Wookiee win.

Wookies > all :cool:

Edit - And the NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in Episode IV was almost painful

[tele_more]

lol star wars



i still have a soft spot for these movies

[here comes the bird flu]

lol star wars



i still have a soft spot for these movies
I always will.

[tele_more]

Yea, I sat down and watched the original trilogy a few weeks ago.

Still what i remembered. I just feel like an uber dork when i watch/discuss them.

:upset:

[here comes the bird flu]

I don't. Star Wars is so masucline. It has some great life lessons intertwined into the story as well.

[tele_more]

I can see that.

[Seafroggys]

I don't. Star Wars is so masucline. It has some great life lessons intertwined into the story as well.

like if you dress in big black armor with a cool mask and cape, you are a badass.

Try it in the streets sometime!

[CRONITOR]

can someone help me out here?

okay i think that the stormtroopers originally rode banthas in the non-remastered version of a new hope but i think that they rode dewbacks in the remastered version, i dont have a vcr so i was hoping someone could tell me if the bantha riding really happened or if i'm remembering wrong.

[tele_more]

they rode dewbacks in the remastered, and i think it was a dewback in the original, but the prop sucked so it was like waayyy far away

[Seafroggys]

i've only seen the special edition twice, so I know the remastered version much more (and yes, I own the remastered original on VHS). It looked like a bantha to me. I don't even know what they other thing is.

Star Wars geeks.....really ruin a good, fun adventure...

[Surtr]

I don't beleive they ever ride Bantha's? But I also haven't seen the movies in a while.

[Hep Kat]

I don't beleive they ever ride Bantha's? But I also haven't seen the movies in a while.

Nah, they never did. Dewbacks 4 lyfe.

[The Jungler]

Man, this thread brings back memorys. I'm gonna watch the original movies again.

[Surtr]

Hep: Dewbacks ftw!

Other guy: Do it lol, I would but I haven't a clue where they've gotten to.

[Hep Kat]

Man, this thread brings back memorys. I'm gonna watch the original movies again.

wtf are you Mx for? Go watch them :p

Hep: Dewbacks ftw!

:h5:

[The Jungler]

wtf are you Mx for? Go watch them :pNah, I've been playing Pokemon all day.

Talking about Star Wars while playing Pokemon... I feel like a 9 year old again.

[burning star IV]

Wookies > all :cool:


I so have a Wookie roar as my ringtone.

[here comes the bird flu]

http://media.odeo.com/7/8/6/06_Cantina_Band.mp3

A must-hear for any star wars fans!

Best freakin' thing I've heard all year!
/bookmarks

a capella :eek:

[Pop music sucks]

Anybody think that a new X-Wing vs. TIE fighter game would be ****in sweet?

Especially with dx10 coming out and newer hardware.

I didn't have an internet connection when X-Wing vs TIE came out in 97. But my god the single player was some dogfighting fun.

[Surtr]

It would be insane awesome.

I'd buy it for sure.

I'd obviously sit in my Tie fighter. But it'd have to be way better controls and such that what it's like in Space for Battlefront II.

[Pop music sucks]

It was intense once you remembered all the hotkeys for cockpit views.

Your A-Wing speeding through space with a TIE Interceptor on your back trying to evade him, and random ships, and random debris was some adrenaline rushes.

[Hep Kat]

I need to get those limited edition DVDs of the original trilogy. They look sweet.

[Pop music sucks]

Should've been the DVD release in the first place.

S'ok, I just use the 2005 DVD release box as the Limited Edition DVD box now. Since the Limited Edition doesn't come with a freakin' box.

I've got Revenge of the Sith, Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi in it now.

The 2005 DVD's I'll keep in my closet, along with other DVDs/Games I'll never play again.

[Hep Kat]

Should've been the DVD release in the first place.

S'ok, I just use the 2005 DVD release box as the Limited Edition DVD box now. Since the Limited Edition doesn't come with a freakin' box.

I've got Revenge of the Sith, Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi in it now.

The 2005 DVD's I'll keep in my closet, along with other DVDs/Games I'll never play again.

Yeah, it should've been. I've been waiting forever for them to realease the original theatrical version.

[Pop music sucks]

I have the pre-95 remastered tapes.

Those were nice until they just released the Limited Edition set.

[Seafroggys]

I have the pre-95 remastered tapes.

Those were nice until they just released the Limited Edition set.

meh, the 95 remaster VHS was the best. Not widescreen though, which sucks :p

[Pop music sucks]

Yeah, I just wish they were widescreen:upset:

[Tortex88]

Hey, did anyone else cry at the end of episode 3? There was a tear at the part when Obi Wan was like, "We were brothers, Anakin. I loved you." One of the few movies that could break me down like that.

[Seafroggys]

Hey, did anyone else cry at the end of episode 3? There was a tear at the part when Obi Wan was like, "We were brothers, Anakin. I loved you." One of the few movies that could break me down like that.

Yes, that whole scene was, in my opinion, one of the most soulful scenes in all 6 episodes. It was just.....good. I don't remember if I shed a tear or not, but I remember feeling like I wanted to.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Agreed. It was a very well done scene.

[Pop music sucks]

I got shivers down my spine at that scene.

I was all :eek: when he was force-choking Padme.

[MattSharpIsCool]

Too bad he didnt force spleen-kick her.

That would have been better.

[Tyr]

Hey, did anyone else cry at the end of episode 3? There was a tear at the part when Obi Wan was like, "We were brothers, Anakin. I loved you." One of the few movies that could break me down like that.

I sure shed a tear or two.

[Tyr]

The Empire Strikes Back followed by Revenge of the Sith.

[VomitStainedCretin]

Certainly not ROTJ or TPM, Ewoks and Gungans suck.

[Tyr]

Certainly not ROTJ or TPM, Ewoks and Gungans suck.

Yeah, those are my least favourite Star Wars movies.

[Seafroggys]

Return of the Jedi
Empire Strikes Back
Revenge of the Sith
A New Hope
Attack of the Clones
Phantom Menace

in that order.

[AA-12]

Revenge of the Sith.

[Generic Joshman]

^you've got to be farking kidding me.

Last 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First 3

[DBoons Ghost]

Empire Strikes Back is the best one.

I've watched them all again recently and they were so much better when I was a kid.

Truly compare:

C3-PO is no better then Jar Jar. Same schtick. Same campy moral cheese. Really.

Hayden Christiansen's acting is really no better then Mark Hamills.

All the scripts were horrid.

Ewoks vs Gungans. Need I say more?

[Triangle]

Empire> the rest

[Surtr]

No way. Return Of The Jedi or Revenge Of The Sith FTW!

[Pop music sucks]

Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Revenge of the Sith - A New Hope
Attack of the Clones
Phantom Menace

in that order.Sup

[Seafroggys]

meh, I find A New Hope to be overrated. The acting was pretty cheezy, probably the least 'professional' of all the movies (minus Alec Guiness, of course). There's some parts that make no sense in the dialouge or character interactions.

For example, when Luke goes and rescue Leia. He says something to the extent of "Hey, I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you. I've got Ben Kenobi with me."

Ben was the nickname given by the locals on Tatooine. Leia would have only known him by his actual name, Obi-Wan. She wouldn't know who 'Ben' was.

Also, when they blow up the TIE fighters after leaving the Death Star, she hugs Chewie. I honestly wouldn't see that happening, especially after she calls him a "Walking Carpet." I wouldn't be that comfortable after just meeting a wookie.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Return of the Jedi is more overrated than A New Hope, imo.

[Seafroggys]

Good for you. I noticed that you had so many intricate details to back up that statement, you really put my post to shame.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Good for you. I noticed that you had so many intricate details to back up that statement, you really put my post to shame.

Are you joking me? I was just stating my opinion and I respect yours, so I had no real will to put your post to shame. Why such hostility? Anyway...

Return of the Jedi is usually considered a classic because it's part of the original trilogy, and I just don't really think it deserves being mentioned in the same sentence as the first two. The plot is pretty unimaginative. They already blew up the death star in the first one, so when they do it in ROTJ, it's not really interesting at all. It's just a rehash. The ewoks were a waste of time and just put in there to make more action figures. The only thing that is better than average in ROTJ is the final lightsaber battle between Luke and Vader with the Emperor looking on.

To me, A New Hope is a fantastic movie and little flaws like the ones you pointed out don't make the movie overrated at all. There's little flaws like that in plenty of classic movies. It's a very entertaining movie and the reason it seems "less professional" is because it didn't have a huge budget like the five Star Wars movies made after it. It has a simple story and the movie doesn't try to do too much. Great effects for the time. It's the introduction to the whole Star Wars universe. It has this great feeling to it because it truly makes you believe you are in that universe. It's fun to hear about the force being explained. It's exciting and most importantly, it's interesting. It's a classic. ROTJ is not a classic, it's just a subpar sequel.

[Seafroggys]

I've never understood the problems people had with the Ewoks. I've always liked them.

I kinda agree on that Death Star part, but it would make sense that the Empire would try and build a second one, and thus fitting that the rebels would destroy it again. Plus its set up completely differently, with the shield and the "Its a trap!" and the fleet and flying into the superstructure.

Return of the Jedi has the best battle sequences ever. Mainly the space battle and the Luke/Vader dual was pretty badass. And the Emperor owning on Luke.