Bass Comp 27 Voting

[Rollo47]

Lt Fuzzy

http://www.soundclick.com/ltfuzzy

"named bass comp 27"

Tryxx

Green

http://tryxx.dmusic.com

"Bass Comp 27"

Manticore Guy

Green

http://www.soundclick.com/governmentbuiltvirus

"Journey of the Little Guy"

Will66

Green

http://www.soundclick.com/wills

green creature thing


ludwig109

Purple

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=527720

"Swimpydoo"

Roee_co

Purple

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=178887

"Walk the Talk"

Almighty Pancake

Purple

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=206492

"Crazy Purple Llama of Death"

Spazzout

Green

http://www.soundclick.com/spazzout

"Ride"

Rollo47

Green

http://www.soundclick.com/rollo47

"Deep Impact"

Vote away.

Original thread and pictures are here.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463445

[Tryxx]

9 entries, eh? *Starts listening again.*

Edit: Manticore Guy, Will66, ludwig109: You need to try and improve your recording quality. Makes it damn hard to listen to... Just for future reference, I know how it affects your vote acount. :upset:

(Still listening.)

Roee's entry has drums... the rules say no. Edit the poll?

[ludwig109]

9 entries, eh? *Starts listening again.*

You need to try and improve your recording quality. Makes it damn hard to listen to... Just for future reference,

im just getting the hang of recording stuff...
first few tries

[Tryxx]

im just getting the hang of recording stuff...
first few tries

It's cool, I understand. Just going through those entries was a little rough. :p And honestly, the quality of your recording does have an effect on your votes. (I'm not really one to talk though...)

[AlmightyPancake]

My vote's def. going to Spazzout.

I'll come back later and critique individually, but for the most part, people didn't seem certain about decisions they made.

[Tryxx]

My vote's def. going to Spazzout.

I'll come back later and critique individually, but for the most part, people didn't seem certain about decisions they made.

Really, not many of the entries have stood out to me. It's kind of hard for me to decide, but Spazzout is what I'm thinking as well.

[roee_co]

sorry about the drums
like i said i didn't write the song for the comp but i just thought it suited it
i asked rollo in the thread if its ok and he didn't respond so i guess it was ok for him

just delete me from the poll

[AlmightyPancake]

Ah bugger. I clicked roee instead of spazzout.




MODDDDDDDDSSSSSS!!!

[Wintermute]

Fixed. :thumb:

[Tryxx]

sorry about the drums
like i said i didn't write the song for the comp but i just thought it suited it
i asked rollo in the thread if its ok and he didn't respond so i guess it was ok for him

just delete me from the poll

It's really up to him, so I suppose we can wait for his verdict.

[Manticore Guy]

9 entries, eh? *Starts listening again.*

Edit: Manticore Guy, Will66, ludwig109: You need to try and improve your recording quality. Makes it damn hard to listen to... Just for future reference, I know how it affects your vote acount. :upset:

(Still listening.)

Roee's entry has drums... the rules say no. Edit the poll?


What exactly do you mean by that? I don't even hear any distorted notes.

[Wintermute]

Manticore - for a start the sound is hard-panned to the left... a common problem, surprisingly enough. Comes from recording a mono source into a stereo format. I liked the backing loop, but the main line was out of time, at times discordant, and almost always without any real sense of direction. A good attempt, and I do quite like your tone, but improvising an entire song seldom works. Don't be afraid to do multiple takes, and even to cut and paste good bits of playing together.

Lt. Fuzzy - wow, that's quite a weird piece. VERY effect heavy, but it does work. Sounds very Claypool inspired, at least at first. The problem with weird stuff though is it really needs something to keep the listener interested... Great promise at first, but it soon seemed to slide into 'hey, look how many effects I have!' territory. If all of those sounds were bass I'm quite impressed, mind.

Tryxx - I can see that effects are going to feature quite prominantly in this competition... :p There's something quite weird going on here. It doesn't sound quite in tune with itself, almost. It might be poor tracking from the octaver, or if you used two basses I'd check they're in tune with each other. The high-pitched line resolves very nicely, but the backing line just... stops. Something to look to. I especially liked the tone of the backing line, though. Very mellow. The lead line had some great ideas too, just needs to be polished a bit. :)

Will66 - Yes indeed, effects are the order of the day today. Check your levels though, there's a bit of clipping going on here. I like what you've done with the multitracking, works very nicely. But this is more of a verse than a song - it doesn't really progress, there's no structure or anything like that. Goes out of time very slightly at the end, too - with your levels checked, this could make part of a great piece though. Keep working on it.

[ludwig109]

Manticore - for a start the sound is hard-panned to the left... a common problem, surprisingly enough. Comes from recording a mono source into a stereo format.



yeh how can i fix that mono stereo problem? im recording directly from bass to the back of pc (microphone hole thing) just a guitar cable to a 1/4'' to 1/8'' adapter what do i need to do?

[Wintermute]

What programs are you using?

[ludwig109]

wow that was fast.

cool edit pro. 2.1

[BenJammin]

Lt. Fuzzy - interesting ideas, I loved the slap... but it went on too long and it wasn't varied enough for my small attention span.

Tryxx - that was weird. Not sure it really jived with me, but I'm glad to see you're finally recording in stereo. :p

Maticore Guy - Tryxx is right about the recording... you're only recording over in the left channel and it's a bit muddy sounding and it's hard to decipher.

will66 - Not sure what to say about this. It makes me think of the green thing more than any of the others did. It kind of had a plodding pace to it that makes me laugh. But it's really not that long or developed.

ludwig109 - your recording quality is painful. Moreso is your blatant rip off of Country Music. It did nothing for me.

Roee - I really liked yours, but there's the whole drum issue, so I'm not going to vote for yours. It also doesn't really 'fit' the picture because it was written before it, but it grooves nicely.

AP - It's definitely cool. The slap line is very trippy and makes me think of the llama thing running around. I thought the shift between themes was very abrupt and ultimately, that detracted a fair bit away from the piece. Your tone is so good, though.

Spazz - that was just awesome. It was like a happy cowboy western with demented llamas instead of horses. I really have no beef with this song at all.

Rollo - that had a very eastern flavour to it, I thought. It was also very strange. Like your other stuff, the quality and playing is top-notch. Like spazz's, I don't have any problems with this one either, except maybe that it carried on too long.

My vote: Rollo (Spazz was right behind)

[Wintermute]

Ludwig - Ah, variation. This one's panned right! Your backing line is Stu Hamm's 'Country Music' almost to the note, which... well, loses you marks in my eyes, for being unoriginal. At first I thought your lead line was clipping horribly, but it's very even and consistant, so maybe it's distortion? If it is... turn it off. It doesn't work. If it's not, check your levels! :)
The parts you've written do go quite well with Stu Hamm's music... up until the chorus bit... which is frankly horrible. Everything goes horribly out of time. It's a brave attempt, but I think a little over ambitious.

I'm not too familiar with Cool Edit pro, but either look for a way to set the recording mode to 'mono', or if it has a good Wave Editor function, to copy the right track over to the left as well, or convert to mono.

Roee - it's been said, but though the drums are quite nicely done, if a little flimsy sounding, they're not supposed to be there. :p
Musically though, this is great stuff. The parts go well together both in terms of composition and tonally. Feels improvised in parts, but without losing coherency and direction. Bonus points for that. The only thing 'd really criticise is the ending - there is no more disappointing end to a song than a slow fade-out.

Pancake - Your delay makes everything feel very out of time. The lower part is far too high in the mix, and dominates more than it should. You're recording hot without clipping, which is good, but faders move down as well as up. You've had a lot of good ideas, but tried to use too many of them at once, and I'm not sure they really fit in well with each other. I feel like I'm not on enough drugs to appreciate this, to be honest... :lol:

[Tryxx]

Tryxx - I can see that effects are going to feature quite prominantly in this competition... :p There's something quite weird going on here. It doesn't sound quite in tune with itself, almost. It might be poor tracking from the octaver, or if you used two basses I'd check they're in tune with each other. The high-pitched line resolves very nicely, but the backing line just... stops. Something to look to. I especially liked the tone of the backing line, though. Very mellow. The lead line had some great ideas too, just needs to be polished a bit. :)

First, it's not an actual octaver, it's a pedal bend. I'm to understand that it just speeds up the frequency, doesn't quite octave it, if it does, the max is 12, so I suppose that means it's 12 steps higher? If it's something like that, I'm not sure I'd expect it to be in tune, but I know what you mean.

The backing line tone, and that kind of playing is what the Modulus excels in. There was a bit of chorus and reverb, but a good 90% of that tone is natural. I agree the idea needs to polished, once I had the thing finished I decided that was it for the night, a lot like you and the "that's it for 4 AM" thing. :lol: I'll go back and give that line the justice it deserves.

Thanks!

[ludwig109]

cheers.
i dont know country music was just tapping octaves and whatnot
but if it is oh well.

[Tryxx]

Tryxx - that was weird. Not sure it really jived with me, but I'm glad to see you're finally recording in stereo. :p


I can understand that. But it was my goal that it not be that crazy circus music with tons of effects like that. That wasn't the feeling I wanted to get across. I liked the idea of it being complacent travelling or something, thinking on a peaceful walk, that kind of thing. Probably didn't fit well enough though. :p

(My last two have been in stereo fure sure... and my little snippets as well, but I'll keep it up.)

[Wintermute]

Spazzout - Sudden hard panning changes are disorientating... you use automation to smooth it out at points, which is always nice to hear. But panning is at its best used subtley, I think. Your parts fit nicely with each other though, and your recording quality is good. Fits the theme well, and resolves nicely. Some nice tones going on too - I like this one. :)

Finally Rollo - Bass Synth? Don't hear that very often. I liked your line as it came in, but I think one bass synth is enough. Sounds like there are two or three working at once here, and it gets a little too busy. Your backing line has a very precise groove to it, but the stuff you play over the top... does not fit well. I liked the deeper sounds that came in around 2:20 - more of them, please! Otherwise... Feels a little rushed. Recording quality is good, mixing and composition I'm not so sure. As I said with Pancake, a lot of good ideas, but don't use them all at once.

It comes down to Roee and Spazzout for me, and honestly it'd be a close one to call if Roee hadn't broken the rules a bit. :thumb:

My vote goes to Spazzout.

[Manticore Guy]

What programs are you using?

I'm using Garage Band with my Mac, and just plugging into the back of the computer using the cable and adaptor.

[Wintermute]

I know even less about Garageband - not a Mac user. :p

But again, look for options to record in mono, or either convert a track to mono or copy the left channel over to the right.

[AlmightyPancake]

Pancake - Your delay makes everything feel very out of time. The lower part is far too high in the mix, and dominates more than it should. You're recording hot without clipping, which is good, but faders move down as well as up. You've had a lot of good ideas, but tried to use too many of them at once, and I'm not sure they really fit in well with each other. I feel like I'm not on enough drugs to appreciate this, to be honest... :lol:

You're absolutely right about my delay, I was attempting to add it after recording it, as I don't own an effects pedal... all my effects are via fruity loops.

Good point about the recording also... I did have the low part up too much, now that I listen to it.

[Wintermute]

If it's a digitally applied effect... does Fruity Loops support tempo-syncing effects? I use it in Reason all the time - setting the delay time to an expression of the tempo, rather than in milliseconds. Keeps things perfectly in time. :)

[pukeboy66]

close call between almighty and tryxx, but tryxx's piece did something for me so i voted for him

[AlmightyPancake]

It only works if you don't play off-tempo.

~_^

I didn't use a click track, just kinda went with it.

[Tryxx]

close call between almighty and tryxx, but tryxx's piece did something for me so i voted for him

:D :D :D :D

<3

[AlmightyPancake]

:D :D :D

<3 http://gifdepot.com/albums/Macros/win.jpg

[Akira]

cheers.
i dont know country music was just tapping octaves and whatnot
but if it is oh well.
I find it basically impossible to believe you did not intentially copy Country Music. Tapping octaves isn't copying, but you use the same rhythm and chord progression.

[Wintermute]

I find it basically impossible to believe you did not intentially copy Country Music. Tapping octaves isn't copying, but you use the same rhythm and chord progression.

And a couple of very similar fills.

[Akira]

And a couple of very similar fills.
That too.

[ludwig109]

its a blues scale shape or whatever
and it was just supposed to sound generaly countryish.
ive heard a good few country songs and alot of them have the same general sound that doesnt mean stu hamm copied them.
and i dont htink its a masterpiece, not trying to take credit for his stuff just a friendly competition, i saw lamma things reminded me of countryish stuff so i did what came to me thats all...

[AlmightyPancake]

its a blues scale shape or whatever
and it was just supposed to sound generaly countryish.
ive heard a good few country songs and alot of them have the same general sound that doesnt mean stu hamm copied them.
and i dont htink its a masterpiece, not trying to take credit for his stuff just a friendly competition, i saw lamma things reminded me of countryish stuff so i did what came to me thats all...
http://gifdepot.com/albums/Macros/ArguingInternet.jpg

[Akira]

Lt Fuzzy - Felt a little awkward and long. The slap was interesting, but got old fast. The piece needs more variation, and less domination on effects. That high part is cool. The effects are really neat at times, but I would rather hear the cool effects used seperately, not all crowded into one song.

Tryxx - I really liked this piece. The melody is awesome. I do see how it felt out of time at points, but overall it seemed to fit well. I didn't think the low part was too high in the mix, it seemed at a good level. I really appreciated a simple melody after Lt Fuzzy's riff based song (that isn't a slam Fuzzy).

Manticore Guy - Definately need to sort out the recording issues. The clipping was really annoying. The melody was nice, but I like the backing line more. Simple, but it added a lot. When you cut the backing line it seemed empty.Your entry definately conveyed a sense of galloping around. Very nice sense of movement.

Will66 - This one was nice besides the clipping, that detracted from it. It was pretty short, it could have used more variations. I really liked the little line at the end.

ludwig109 - Those harmonic things in the intro and outro were really rough. The clipping was so bad I couldn't tell if it was clipping or intentional fuzz. Either way it was bad. And it seemed at a few points you seemed to sort of mess up and just stop. The melody was crazy loud. I actually liked the melody minus the clipping. If you fixed that it would be cool. Even if it wasn't intentional, the backing line sounded way too much like Country Music.

Roee_co - I love your stuff, shame this song has drums. Nice wah. You by far had the most tasteful effects in my opinion. I really have nothing negative to say about this piece. You are a very good bassist and composer. All the tracks fit together, and the flow was briliant. My hat's off to you.

Almighty Pancake - I liked your piece a lot. It was bit crazy at times, but crazy works for this Comp. Those mega-vibratos things are awesome. Those were by far my favorite part of the song. The levels seemed a little weird at times, parts didn't really balance that wonderfully.

Spazzout - I really liked your entry. Very good multitracking. I felt like all the layers fit well. I was impressed. I really enjoyed it. It conveyed movement very well, so I thought it manifested the theme very nicely. I thought you ended it well. Good job.

Rollo47 - Sweet synth. I loved the slidey layer, but it didn't fit too well. All the layers are sweet, but a little too crowded. Overall the layers didn't seem to fit together. Alone the layers were ace.


Since Roee is out for drums, I am going to go Spazz. I thought your piece fit together really well, and related to the theme well.

[Rollo47]

Yeah, sorry Roee. I didn't actually listen to the entries before I put them up.

As for my entry, it was made in about five minutes, and really was just a chance to show off my new Deep Impact pedal.

[Akira]

Yeah, sorry Roee. I didn't actually listen to the entries before I put them up.

As for my entry, it was made in about five minutes, and really was just a chance to show off my new Deep Impact pedal.
The pedal is a winner for sure, sweet tone.

[nisakss]

My vote goes to Will66, I could really see the lama running around.

I'll elaborate later or tommorow.

[Manticore Guy]

Manticore Guy - Definately need to sort out the recording issues. The clipping was really annoying. The melody was nice, but I like the backing line more. Simple, but it added a lot. When you cut the backing line it seemed empty.Your entry definately conveyed a sense of galloping around. Very nice sense of movement.


If you dont mind me asking, where is the clipping you are talking about? I've listened back and have yet to hear any distorted notes or clipping.

Edit: And WM, where does it go out of time. I just looked at the file, and I am hitting the downbeats, and staying on beat in the measures. Can you elaborate?

[Akira]

If you dont mind me asking, where is the clipping you are talking about? I've listened back and have yet to hear any distorted notes or clipping.

Edit: And WM, where does it go out of time. I just looked at the file, and I am hitting the downbeats, and staying on beat in the measures. Can you elaborate?
When I look back at my post, I think I meant to say the panning. Because you are right, yours doesn't clip.

[Wintermute]

There's no point where it all goes completely and horribly out, but there are several points where the lines are just subtley mismatched in terms of rhythm. Did you use a click-track to record this?

[darrell]

cheers.
i dont know country music was just tapping octaves and whatnot
but if it is oh well.

Yours was the first piece I listened to... after hearing that, I thought it was a competition for cover songs. It is exactly the same as Country Music... if you are going to copy a piece, try to make it one that not every bass player knows.

Here's a version by our very own KillerFridge... http://youtube.com/watch?v=QSgQrvK7jhQ&search=country%20music%20hamm

[Manticore Guy]

There's no point where it all goes completely and horribly out, but there are several points where the lines are just subtley mismatched in terms of rhythm. Did you use a click-track to record this?

Okay. I didn't a click track now, but there is a metronome function that I think I'll remember to use from now on.

[Tryxx]

Spazzout! Pick your avatar!

Rollo47! Pick something to relinquish yours with!

[Spazzout22]

Um, What's the procedure now. I just pick a sweet picture that's huge and then make another Bass comp?

[Wintermute]

Pretty much. Call it... oh... 150x150 limit. Post it in here when you've found it, and I'll get it set for you.

[will66]

congrats spazzout:thumb: very cool piece you made

btw these comps are some damn fun:p

[Spazzout22]

Mkay, Here's my avatar: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Spazzout22/bass_f_hole.gif

Pretty simple, whatever. I'll make the next comp now.

[Wintermute]

Good choice. Like it. :)