PNWI Community Thread version 3.0 (KEEP REFRIGERATED AT ALL TIMES)

[Already_Taken]

you'd have to be gay to think there was nothing "different" about freddie

[Iskandar]

Yeah, he's Parsi.

[1338 h4x0r]

I got a cab ride and a blowjob from Freddie Mercury

True story

[Aaron]

No, that's silly. Being gay is by definition not the norm. I think gay people are pretty aware of that, because certain segments of society take it upon themselves to remind them constantly.
There's nothing wrong with being percieved as a minority, it's not descrimination to be made to feel different. If anything, it's recognition.

[mph4ever]

I got a cab ride and a blowjob from Freddie Mercury

True story

*crab

[Iskandar]

There's nothing wrong with being percieved as a minority, it's not descrimination to be made to feel different. If anything, it's recognition.They know they're gay. I'm talking about people who criticize them constantly for who they are.

[Amit]

i can't believe people are this retarded to have a discussion like this with you iskandar

ugh

[Iskandar]

I know. They're going to lose.

[Smokey D]

Most people weren't sure about Freddy Mercury's homosexuality, although there were rumours.

The love of his life was a woman named Mary, by the way.

[1338 h4x0r]

She held the closet door shut for him all those years

How sweet

[Iskandar]

She was a beard, then.

[Smokey D]

Sexual identity/orientation aren't fixed.

Also, he fell in love with her after he came out.

[Iskandar]

They aren't necessarily, but they generally are.

Though I suppose it's possible he just woke up one day and realized he liked men.

[Smokey D]

They aren't necessarily, but they generally are.

Though I suppose it's possible he just woke up one day and realized he liked men.

Dumb. Attraction is about liking particular people, not classes of people. You can be attracted to men in general but still be particularly attracted to a woman.

[Iskandar]

It doesn't make much sense to speak of sexual orientation if it doesn't boil down to likes men, likes women or likes both.

[beso negro]

smokey what are you talking about. people don't change sexual orientation like they change religion.

[Iskandar]

They can.

But I don't think it's really common or anything.

Also along the lines of realizing you really liked the other sex all along.

[Smokey D]

It doesn't make much sense to speak of sexual orientation if it doesn't boil down to likes men, likes women or likes both.

Yeah that's because sexual attraction only ever has heuristic value. It can't work as a determinant.

smokey what are you talking about. people don't change sexual orientation like they change religion.

Sure. But you can be attracted to men in general and attracted to a woman in particular.

They can.

But I don't think it's really common or anything.

Also along the lines of realizing you really liked the other sex all along.

Well yeah. You had the potential to like both sexes all the time.

I don't buy into the idea that sexuality is binary. If A married man suddenly realises he's likes men, it doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't attracted to his wife or other women.

[Iskandar]

Okay, then he's bisexual.

[1338 h4x0r]

I want to break free!
I want to ...... break free!
I want to break free from your lies
You're so self-satisfied
I don't need you
I've got to break free!
God knows, God knows!
Two for a dollar, please come again!

[Smokey D]

Okay, then he's bisexual.

In a crude sense of the word, perhaps.

[Iskandar]

If you're attracted to both men and women you're a bisexual by definition.

[Smokey D]

You're kind of getting into issues of identity as well as attraction, though.

[Iskandar]

Well attraction is sort of what makes your identity.

[Smokey D]

Well attraction is sort of what makes your identity.

Erm. What?

[Iskandar]

Do people self-identity as gay men when they're not attracted to other men at all.

That makes no sense.

[Smokey D]

Do people self-identity as gay men when they're not attracted to other men at all.

That makes no sense.

I imagine it's possible but that example is not particularly relevant.

More relevant is a man who self identifies as straight and who likes men, for example.

[Aaron]

I can sense some massive sexual-tension right now.

[Iskandar]

I imagine it's possible but that example is not particularly relevant.

More relevant is a man who self identifies as straight and who likes men, for example.That's absurd.

But then how can I tell him what to identify as.

[die of starvation]

most men who like men identify as straight

[Iskandar]

Msm.

[Smokey D]

That's absurd.

But then how can I tell him what to identify as.

Not really. Gay as an identity is a relatively recent thing that doesn't have equivalents in lots of cultures.

[Iskandar]

Homosexuality is not new though.

[Smokey D]

Yeah obviously but different cultures have approached it differently. If you told an ancient Greek pederast he was gay, he wouldn't know what you were talking about.

It's only relatively recently that people started to say that male and female attraction was mutually exclusive.

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm a Lukerast

[McP3000]

Yeah obviously but different cultures have approached it differently. If you told an ancient Greek pederast he was gay, he wouldn't know what you were talking about.

It's only relatively recently that people started to say that male and female attraction was mutually exclusive.
i would argue that the ancient greek pedophilia was a bit of a learned behavior, or a social hierarchy thing.

[1338 h4x0r]

I would argue that ancient Greek pedophilia should be encouraged because the squealing is funny

[Smokey D]

i would argue that the ancient greek pedophilia was a bit of a learned behavior, or a social hierarchy thing.

Yes but I don't know why this doesn't continue to apply today.

[1338 h4x0r]

tbh I don't see why putting it in boy's butts if they asked for it is wrong

[Iskandar]

Yeah obviously but different cultures have approached it differently. If you told an ancient Greek pederast he was gay, he wouldn't know what you were talking about.So we just approach it like hetero relationships, only with the same ugly bits.
It's only relatively recently that people started to say that male and female attraction was mutually exclusive.Well they aren't necessarily. I mean, bisexuals. Pansexuals.

[Smokey D]

So we just approach it like hetero relationships, only with the same ugly bits.

Um, yes?


Well they aren't necessarily. I mean, bisexuals. Pansexuals.

Those are identities, though.

The important thing is to realise that being gay and engaging in homosexual behaviour aren't the same thing.

[Iskandar]

Those are identities, though.Um, yes.
The important thing is to realise that being gay and engaging in homosexual behaviour aren't the same thing.Not at all. That's why I said MSM earlier.

[1338 h4x0r]

dong seeking dong

[Mr. Ron]

d/s/d

[mph4ever]

freddie was a benny. everyone knew. just publications didn't carry such material

mary was the love of his life, a loving companion, but he never got it up for her, he was interested in men

glam rock of the type queen did was a perfect hiding place for freddie the benny

[Smokey D]

Not at all. That's why I said MSM earlier.

So we're in agreement that whoever you're attracted to is only part of the issue?

[1338 h4x0r]

1338sLuke

[Mr. Ron]

you guys would make hot babies

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm trying to imagine what Smokey D (Luke) looks like in my head

For some reason I'm seeing Peter Jackson, but skinny, with a little hyperthyroidism, and wearing a plaid shirt and worn jeans

[Smokey D]

Peter Jackson is skinny now.

Um, I don't wear plaid and my jeans are new and shiny.

Also, I don't have a beard or scraggly brown hair

What would hyperthyroidism do to me?

[1338 h4x0r]

it would make you kind of skinny, maybe just a little bug-eyed

[McP3000]

d/s/d
lol ilu

[Smokey D]

Nah. I'm pretty slim but not super skinny.

Also, my eyes are smoldering and alluring.

[mph4ever]

i'm bettin smokey looks intelligent in a sort of casual way

i338 looks like hes black with a chequered shirt and tight afro, sort of like cookie out of ned's declassified school survival guide

iskandar wears a long traditional arab dress

[1338 h4x0r]

I've never seen them because I'm usually kneeling in front of you bb

@ Smokey D

[McP3000]

Nah. I'm pretty slim but not super skinny.

Also, my eyes are smoldering and alluring.
whats this

smokey has a sense of humor

[1338 h4x0r]

this is what I look like btw

http://i42.tinypic.com/29dtpu8.jpg

that's me standing mere inches from a gruesome death in some nasty Aquafresh-colored water

[Iskandar]

So we're in agreement that whoever you're attracted to is only part of the issue?Yeah.

[Iskandar]

i'm bettin smokey looks intelligent in a sort of casual wayProbably but we'll never know.
i338 looks like hes black with a chequered shirt and tight afro, sort of like cookie out of ned's declassified school survival guideNo he looks like a serial killer.
iskandar wears a long traditional arab dressHaha no.

It's called a thawb by the way.

I actually look more like this:
Nah. I'm pretty slim but not super skinny.

Also, my eyes are smoldering and alluring.

[1338 h4x0r]

http://i42.tinypic.com/29dtpu8.jpg

I don't look like a serial killer

[Iskandar]

Okay, that is an improvement.

Smokey D is average height and has dirty blond hair by the way.

[1338 h4x0r]

Is he circumcised

[Iskandar]

I'm guessing not. Why don't you ask him yourself.

[Aaron]

I look like a child.

[Iskandar]

Aaron, you have quite the baby face. It's cute. I expect you've heard this way too many times over your life and you want to kill me for saying it.

[Aaron]

It's good and bad to look 13 when you're ten years older. I do get called cute, but it's confusing whether to take it as a compliment or not.

Is he circumcised
He is now.

[Iskandar]

Hey I always have been and Smokey D thinks my right to security of the person was violated.

[Aaron]

I am also.

[Iskandar]

Mazel tov.

[Aaron]

Three out of my six names are biblical, do you think I wouldn't be? lol.

[Iskandar]

Well none of mine are.

[Aaron]

Yeah but you've got facial hair so it evens out.

[Aaron]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/reccaoconnor/lovebeingwhite.jpg

[1338 h4x0r]

Cirumcised party up in here

[Smokey D]

Okay, that is an improvement.

Smokey D is average height and has dirty blond hair by the way.

How do you know that.

My name is biblical and I wouldn't let some knife wielding fanatic near my manhood.

[Iskandar]

Yeah but you've got facial hair so it evens out.Nah I shaved.
How do you know that.'Cause that's what a Luke looks like.
My name is biblical and I wouldn't let some knife wielding fanatic near my penis.
It's New Testament, not Old Testament, so you wouldn't have been circumcized by a mohel but a doctor.

Also lol at not letting them do it when you're a baby.

[mph4ever]

this is what I look like btw

http://i42.tinypic.com/29dtpu8.jpg

that's me standing mere inches from a gruesome death in some nasty Aquafresh-colored water

who is that holding your lead?

[Aaron]

Nah I shaved.
What's the cat think?

'Cause that's what a Luke looks like.He doesn't sound as Maori as I thought.

It's New Testament, not Old Testament, so you wouldn't have been circumcized by a mohel but a doctor.Luke was a doctor, could've easily of done it himself.

Also lol at not letting them do it when you're a baby."If you put me down I'll be able to show you which legislation outlines how you're infringing on my rights."

[Iskandar]

What's the cat think?I guess he doesn't really care as long as he gets to keep his beard.
He doesn't sound as Maori as I thought.Lol who said he was Maori.
Luke was a doctor, could've easily of done it himself.Nah more like a trial lawyer or something.
"If you put me down I'll be able to show you which legislation outlines how you're infringing on my rights."You know he was quite probably like this as a child as well.

[mph4ever]

thats very west coast centric

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm so glad my dong is circumcised

[Mr. Ron]

chris I like your dog and your coat


d/s/d

[1338 h4x0r]

chode seeking chode

8=D ~ C=8

^______________^

[Mr. Ron]

alex I have yet to see a pic of you, describe your body in detail please.

[guitarded_chuck]

I'm starting to dislike the thread debating gender behavior. I don't have time to think and right out that much jeeezsh guys give me a break

[1338 h4x0r]

Can I post pix of my penis in this thread to show everyone how circumcised it is

[Aaron]

I guess he doesn't really care as long as he gets to keep his beard.
Meowth or Persian?

Lol who said he was Maori.
Ages ago I made a thread proposing the idea that Australia absorb New Zealand and make it one of our territories. He reallllllllllllllllllllllly didn't like the idea [LOL] and for some reason I had in my mind after that the idea he was Maori.

Nah more like a trial lawyer or something.
Physician = doctor.

You know he was quite probably like this as a child as well.
You know it.

[Smokey D]

You clearly don't know much about New Zealand if you think the only reason we would oppose federation with Australia is because of the Maori.

But also, if I recall, my opposition wasn't that strenuous. I just thought it would be pointless.


"If you put me down I'll be able to show you which legislation outlines how you're infringing on my rights."

Damn straight.

(PS it isn't legislation it's common law).

[Iskandar]

The idea behind New Zealand and Australia's relationship is probably that they have an awful lot in common but prefer to downplay their similarities and emphasize their differences. In that respect it's probably a lot like America and Canada, not least because there are no doubt issues between the two countries that only a local would be aware of.
alex I have yet to see a pic of you, describe your body in detail please.Tall and skinny with brown hair and blue eyes, and a big Jew nose.

Not that bad, actually.
Meowth or Persian?He's definitely more of a Persian.

Which ironically did not look like an actual Persian cat, which have very long coats.

[Aaron]

You clearly don't know much about New Zealand if you think the only reason we would oppose federation with Australia is because of the Maori.

But also, if I recall, my opposition wasn't that strenuous. I just thought it would be pointless
Yeah, I'm just being a bit silly really to avoid stress.

Damn straight.

(PS it isn't legislation it's common law).
I realise it is, but the term "common law" has specific mean to me as I work in risk-management, so I avoid it's use.

[Smokey D]

The idea behind New Zealand and Australia's relationship is probably that they have an awful lot in common but prefer to downplay their similarities and emphasize their differences. In that respect it's probably a lot like America and Canada, not least because there are no doubt issues between the two countries that only a local would be aware of.

Well yeah we do have a lot of similarities but we do have some pretty important constitutional differences as well, and given that our government functions as well as if not better than the Australian one, why on earth would we want to subordinate our sovereignty to the federation?


I realise it is, but the term "common law" has specific mean to me as I work in risk-management, so I avoid it's use.

What is its specific meaning in risk management?

[Aaron]

Common-law, in an industrial context for me, relates to where a third party willingly is at fault in a workplace accident.

Well yeah we do have a lot of similarities but we do have some pretty important constitutional differences as well, and given that our government functions as well as if not better than the Australian one, why on earth would we want to subordinate our sovereignty to the federation?
That's a point that I don't agree with in relation to all issues.

[Smokey D]

That's not even what common law means. Risk management is dumb.

How do you mean willingly at fault? And when you say third party do you mean the victim or the employer or someone else?

[Aaron]

It does to us. Words can have more than one meeting broseph.

Like if a colleague, or employer, sees or creates a risk and ignores it knowing potential consequences. ie. Doesn't repair faulty wiring that shocks someone.

[Aaron]

Which ironically did not look like an actual Persian cat, which have very long coats.
Damn decietful Gionvanni of Team Rocket.

[Smokey D]

It does to us. Words can have more than one meeting broseph.

Yah, but common law means a) law decided by the courts in the absence of legislation b) law as opposed to equity or c) common law jurisdictions as opposed to civil law jurisdictions.

Like if a colleague, or employer, sees or creates a risk and ignores it knowing potential consequences. ie. Doesn't repair faulty wiring that shocks someone.

Ahh. that's the tort of negligence, which is part of the common law.'

To get this straight, when someone is negligent, you say 'that's a common law mistake'?

[Aaron]

Yah, but common law means a) law decided by the courts in the absence of legislation b) law as opposed to equity or c) common law jurisdictions as opposed to civil law jurisdictions.
I know.

Ahh. that's the tort of negligence, which is part of the common law.
Yep. Language evolves quickly in specialised industries I guess.

To get this straight, when someone is negligent, you say 'that's a common law mistake'?I can see it being used in that context, I generally use the term negligent though cause I deal with sols and barristers a lot more than once.

[Smokey D]

Yep. Language evolves quickly in specialised industries I guess.

I don't even get how you would use the phrase common law in that context, unless you were saying 'that is negligence actionable at common law'.

[Iskandar]

Well yeah we do have a lot of similarities but we do have some pretty important constitutional differences as well, and given that our government functions as well as if not better than the Australian one, why on earth would we want to subordinate our sovereignty to the federation?Like I said, America and Canada.

Also our politics are more competitive in both cases.

[Smokey D]

Whose' politics are more competitive than whose?

New Zealand culture is probably about as similar to Australia's as it is to most of Canada's or the coastal US.

[Aaron]

I'm thinking of buying a house in the Bay of Islands area.

[Smokey D]

I'm thinking of buying a house in the Bay of Islands area.

It's alright, I spose.

But probably no better than any stretch of coast in Australia.

[Aaron]

I like it. It's a slower pace of life than where I am [Wollongongongongongongong].

[Smokey D]

yeah it's pretty boring up there, but i'm just saying you swap it for any other stretch of subtropical rural coast and it'd be the same. Why come all the way over here?

[Aaron]

It's cheaper and not where my partner's mother is, hahaha.

[Iskandar]

Whose' politics are more competitive than whose?

New Zealand culture is probably about as similar to Australia's as it is to most of Canada's or the coastal US.Canada's vs. America's, and New Zealand's vs. Australia's.

Isn't Australia pretty much a two party system.

[Smokey D]

Canada's vs. America's, and New Zealand's vs. Australia's.

Isn't Australia pretty much a two party system.

So is New Zealand though. the electoral system means that the two main parties have to cobble together a majority in parliament but it's never in doubt that one of them is going to be the government.

Australia is funny coz the Opposition is a coalition.

[Iskandar]

Well every multiparty system tends to that but at least there are different parties in NZ whereas in Australia it's the one semi-rational party versus a bunch of Christian conservatives. Oh, and a few random hippies.

[Smokey D]

Well every multiparty system tends to that but at least there are different parties in NZ whereas in Australia it's the one semi-rational party versus a bunch of Christian conservatives. Oh, and a few random hippies.

Australia and New Zealand's political cultures are pretty similar, except Australia is probably more conservative.

In both cases its town vs country, rich vs poor, and then random middle class people who vote according to social goals rather than class interest.

[Aaron]

Australia is basically two centre-right parties, one who is pro-union, the other which is anti-union and a coalition. Then there's a recent greens movement which is not really far-left like a lot of greens parties in the world.

[Iskandar]

Australia is basically two centre-right parties, one who is pro-union, the other which is anti-union and a coalition. Then there's a recent greens movement which is not really far-left like a lot of greens parties in the world.See how screwy your country is?

[Aaron]

We have a different social attitude to politics and participation to you, hence with everyone voting our parties are less extreme. Where is America and Canada you don't have to vote and it's only those motivated to that do, we all vote but there's nuances in our stances on social issues. Most people I know vote "above the line" which means they rank all 59-odd parties, not just put a vote next to one of the three/four major parties.

[Iskandar]

So it's just the fault of your compulsory voting.

[Aaron]

What do you mean fault, you crazy socialist?

[Iskandar]

"Everyone has to vote so we all vote for the same parties."

[Aaron]

Most people I know vote "above the line" which means they rank all 59-odd parties, not just put a vote next to one of the three/four major parties.

[Iskandar]

Lol, you have to quantify 59 different parties, many of which you've never heard of?

Man Australia sucks.

[Aaron]

You don't have to, it's an option if you don't like letting preferences being determined by the governments.

[Iskandar]

Still dumb.

These parties just shouldn't count.

[Aaron]

Why? We've got three independents [IIRC] in our senate currently and they're the margin that decides legislation being passed or not.

[Iskandar]

Nobody needs 59 parties.

[Aaron]

I can party for a while dude. I go hard.

[Smokey D]

New Zealand's got parties most people have never heard of.

I'd argue that they're important for democracy.

Anyway, 2 centre right parties isn't exactly uncommon. It's what the Democrats are, and in some ways New Labour.

[Iskandar]

New Zealand's got parties most people have never heard of.

I'd argue that they're important for democracy.They don't become important until they start getting more votes.
Anyway, 2 centre right parties isn't exactly uncommon. It's what the Democrats are, and in some ways New Labour.So you finally admit it.

I'm not sure if the Liberal Party of Canada counts because they're either center-left or center-right depending on who you're talking to, so maybe they're just center.

[Aaron]

Most Australians are too drunk to notice which party is in power anywayz.

[StreetlightRock]

Not true with alcopop tax legistlation! Tennybop drunkards are up in arms! And 2 AM lockout??? BOooo

[Ando!]

Why? We've got three independents [IIRC] in our senate currently and they're the margin that decides legislation being passed or not.

an "effective party" is actually distinctly defined in Arendt Liphardt's Patterns of Democracy. Not sure to what extent that definition is universally accepted, though.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

Nobody needs 59 parties.
more the better no matter what

[Smokey D]

It's funny how Alex thinks he's liberal but he invalidates democratic experience that's different to Canada's limited experience.

[mph4ever]

The idea behind New Zealand and Australia's relationship is probably that they have an awful lot in common but prefer to downplay their similarities and emphasize their differences. In that respect it's probably a lot like America and Canada, not least because there are no doubt issues between the two countries that only a local would be aware of.



from what i have heard there are similarities in the differences between america and canada and austrailia and new zealand

for a start americans and australians are great fun to be around, they want to laugh and party and stuff whilst canadians and new zealanders are boring as hell and get off on moderating internet forums

*dave is excused from the moderator comment because hes just plain cool, k.

[Smokey D]

for a start americans and australians are great fun to be around, they want to laugh and party and stuff whilst canadians and new zealanders are boring as hell and get off on moderating internet forums

Watch your tongue paddy.

[mph4ever]

hey, its only what i heard

i suppose other similarities lie in what people associate with the different countries. like from what i have heard then lots of people would say that the white man took america and australia from the indigenous people whereas no one ever mentions this when they talk about canada and new zealand although it does look like the same sort of things happened in those countries

canada and new zealand both seriously fail at soccer

i am sure others could add to the list

[Mr. Ron]

I like Canada in small doses. Its pretty clean and the people are friendly for the most part. Otherwise its sort of boring.

[Smokey D]

Erm, I can promise you people talk about that all the time.

PS we fail at soccer about asd much ad Ireland fails at rugby.

[Mr. Ron]

I wish soccer was bigger in America. Loved playing it back in high school.

[Room13]

but soccer is boring baseball really needs to go away also

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

I wish soccer was bigger in America. Loved playing it back in high school.
apparently it is in texas

[Mr. Ron]

Soccer is very interesting to me because the passing is more fun to watch than goals being made, imo.

[mph4ever]

Erm, I can promise you people talk about that all the time.

not really

PS we fail at soccer about asd much ad Ireland fails at rugby.

but ireland didn't fail at rugby, we just won the grand slam, not bad considering. new zealand never win anything at soccer

also we do not take kids from the womb and hand them a rugby ball and teach them all to play the same way so that their style of rugby is predictable and boring but i must admit fairly effective except in the world cup where they fail

[Room13]

Soccer is very interesting to me because the passing is more fun to watch than goals being made, imo.

well yeah the whole game is standing around and passing back and forth

[Mr. Ron]

NASCAR needs to die a horrible death. I just do not get why people would ever want to watch cars take left hand turns ALL DAY.

[Room13]

more of those drivers should take right turns and get it over with

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

soccer is more like jogging with other people in zig zags than a sport

there so little ball involved

[Smokey D]

not really

No really that's the driving public issue in New Zealand. Every single public decision references it.

but ireland didn't fail at rugby, we just won the grand slam, not bad considering. new zealand never win anything at soccer


Yeah we can beat the Pacific Islands in soccer too. But who cares. They're crap. It doesn't matter if you beat other teams who are as bad at rugby as you are. When you beat the All Blacks, then we'll talk.


also we do not take kids from the womb and hand them a rugby ball and teach them all to play the same way so that their style of rugby is predictable and boring but i must admit fairly effective except in the world cup where they fail

Er, running rugby is boring and predictable?

I suppose it's more predictable since we don't drop the ball as often, but I don't really get the criticism.

[Iskandar]

It's funny how Alex thinks he's liberal but he invalidates democratic experience that's different to Canada's limited experience.Don't be silly.

I know that certain countries are more democratic than others.
from what i have heard there are similarities in the differences between america and canada and austrailia and new zealandWell aside from them all being in the Anglo tradition there's the obvious resemblance of a smaller, less populous country versus a giant, culturally dominant neighbourhood.

Plus the Maori issue is sort of like the Quebec issue in certain ways from what I gather.

[mph4ever]

No really that's the driving public issue in New Zealand. Every single public decision references it.

i thought meant outside of new zealand. is it such a great issue? what do they discuss about it? are there are plans to give the country back or are the indigenous peoples happy with the status quo

Yeah we can beat the Pacific Islands in soccer too. But who cares. They're crap. It doesn't matter if you beat other teams who are as bad at rugby as you are. When you beat the All Blacks, then we'll talk.

i seem to remember one of irealns provinces doing just that 30 odd years ago so we should have been talking for some time

Er, running rugby is boring and predictable?

I suppose it's more predictable since we don't drop the ball as often, but I don't really get the criticism.
the australians play entertaining rugby, the french too. i wouldn't put new zealand rugby in the same category when it comes to entertainment but i can't argue with their obvious success


Well aside from them all being in the Anglo tradition there's the obvious resemblance of a smaller, less populous country versus a giant, culturally dominant neighbourhood.

Plus the Maori issue is sort of like the Quebec issue in certain ways from what I gather.

more christian perhaps

[Iskandar]

Who's more Christian?

[mph4ever]

you said anglo tradition and i suggested that perhaps they have a more christian tradition. certainly they were founded on anglo tradition like colonisation, murdering the locals etc but maybe they have evolved into being more christian. like the way they repent for what they have done but never really make reparations

[Iskandar]

you said anglo tradition and i suggested that perhaps they have a more christian tradition. certainly they were founded on anglo tradition like colonisation, murdering the locals etc but maybe they have evolved into being more christian. like the way they repent for what they have done but never really make reparationsNah they were way more Christian in times past.

Also colonialism isn't exclusive to Anglos or to white people in general, though we've probably done the majority of it over the last couple of centuries.

[mph4ever]

how were they way more christian?

[Iskandar]

People were more religious back in the day, dude. Religion is not as important for Westerners now or else we would go to church and complain more about tradition morality and stuff.

[mph4ever]

being more religious probably means less christian

[Iskandar]

Probably but people took their interpretation of Christianity very seriously, no matter how screwy it was.

[mph4ever]

that doesn't make any difference

[Iskandar]

Yes it does.

Go to the South and tell me it doesn't.

[1338 h4x0r]

lol

the South

[mph4ever]

Yes it does.

Go to the South and tell me it doesn't.


you've lost me

[1338 h4x0r]

lol

THE SOUTH

[mph4ever]

we were talking about colonisation not slavery

[Iskandar]

No we were talking about religion.

[mph4ever]

only because you decided to stick a strawman in there

[1338 h4x0r]

Probably but people took their interpretation of Christianity very seriously, no matter how screwy it was.

lol

the South

qft

[Iskandar]

only because you decided to stick a strawman in thereNah I didn't. You just misinterpreted me.

[mph4ever]

but you are an mod with over 20k postss, you should never leave it that someone could misinterpret you, take the job seriously

[Iskandar]

You're the one misinterpreting me, not myself.
Wait what.

[mph4ever]

are you sure?

[Iskandar]

Yep.

[Smokey D]

i thought meant outside of new zealand. is it such a great issue? what do they discuss about it? are there are plans to give the country back or are the indigenous peoples happy with the status quo

No, we're not going to give it back.

But yes it is discussed a lot. I dunno if you pay a lot of attention to academic literature. It gets less press than the USand Australia what we did was probably not as bad, and more importantly the US and Australia are much bigger and more famous.

i seem to remember one of irealns provinces doing just that 30 odd years ago so we should have been talking for some time

Your greatest achievement is that thirty years ago Munster beat us.

PS when did Ireland ever achieve anything in football either.

the australians play entertaining rugby, the french too. i wouldn't put new zealand rugby in the same category when it comes to entertainment but i can't argue with their obvious success

Alright. I disagree completely. Australia's style isn't even very different, given that their coached by the former coach of hte Crusaders.



Plus the Maori issue is sort of like the Quebec issue in certain ways from what I gather.

Nah not really. There is no separate physical province or anything. Most Maori (70%) live in urban areas. Something like 50% live in Auckland.

[Iskandar]

Well, they're a significant minority (more politically than numerically) whom you have trouble integrating into the rest of society right.

Partially because they resist assimilation.

[mph4ever]

No, we're not going to give it back.

so you agree that you took it in the first place

But yes it is discussed a lot. I dunno if you pay a lot of attention to academic literature. It gets less press than the USand Australia what we did was probably not as bad, and more importantly the US and Australia are much bigger and more famous.

thats cool. only asking

Your greatest achievement is that thirty years ago Munster beat us.

PS when did Ireland ever achieve anything in football either.

not my achievement. i couldn't give a toss about it but you did ask and i gave an example

and as for ireland ever achieving anything at football. the quarter final of a world cup is a huge achievement for a country coming out of a spell in time where most lads were stopped from playing the game by the gaa

Alright. I disagree completely. Australia's style isn't even very different, given that their coached by the former coach of hte Crusaders.

but the beauty of the australian running game over the past 20 years is not to be surpassed. and they have dipped a little since your man took over

[Smokey D]

so you agree that you took it in the first place

Yes. that is self evident.


not my achievement. i couldn't give a toss about it but you did ask and i gave an example

and as for ireland ever achieving anything at football. the quarter final of a world cup is a huge achievement for a country coming out of a spell in time where most lads were stopped from playing the game by the gaa

New Zealand made the 2nd round once, I think. That's pretty good for a country where soccer gets no domestic support at all.


but the beauty of the australian running game over the past 20 years is not to be surpassed. and they have dipped a little since your man took over

lol okay.

[Aaron]

Erm, I can promise you people talk about that all the time.

PS we fail at soccer about asd much ad Ireland fails at rugby.
Word to that. Rugby is the far superior sport.

[Iskandar]

Lol, sports. Who cares about sports.

[mph4ever]

New Zealand made the 2nd round once, I think. That's pretty good for a country where soccer gets no domestic support at all.


they made the finals in '82. thats fair going. i heard australia only joined the asian league because they feared the rising tide of the all whites would ruin any chance they had of qualification for the next 20 years

[mph4ever]

Lol, sports. Who cares about sports.

men who don't wear dresses even if they are traditional

[Iskandar]

I'm wearing pants and I think sports is a good thing to put on if I need to get some sleep.

[mph4ever]

thats right. you don't even play sports based video games. i forgot

[Smokey D]

I'm watching some sport right now.

[Iskandar]

thats right. you don't even play sports based video games. i forgotThat's true, I don't. I have other interests.

[Smokey D]

Like linguistics!

[Iskandar]

Yeah that's one of them.

Not going to pretend people who aren't into linguistics understand the appeal of it any more than I'm going to understand the appeal of sports.

Or that applies equally to politics which is of course my number one interest, academically and personally.

[Smokey D]

I thought you were going to do literature at university.

[Aaron]

He's going to be a good boy and study economics.

[beso negro]

you mean engineering

[Aaron]

lol, no.

[Iskandar]

I thought you were going to do literature at university.Yeah like two years ago but I changed my mind because I obviously like politics more. Reading is just a hobby for me.
He's going to be a good boy and study economics.Nah.
you mean engineeringGoing to side with Aaron and say "lol, no".

[mph4ever]

Yeah that's one of them.

Not going to pretend people who aren't into linguistics understand the appeal of it any more than I'm going to understand the appeal of sports.

Or that applies equally to politics which is of course my number one interest, academically and personally.

i would never have guessed that

[Iskandar]

i would never have guessed thatI know, I usually make 20 000 posts on and become the moderator of forums about a variety of topics, but not politics.

[mph4ever]

I know, I usually make 20 000 posts on and become the moderator of forums about a variety of topics, but not politics.


i'd have guessed that though

[StreetlightRock]

Ugh, I have no idea what I want to do after uni. Well, thats not true, I want to write, preferably from some culture/art/pop/music mag, and then probably for some major publication after that that. Maybe I'll try start my own advertising company at one point. Or I could write a pHD that would change the world as we know it. Or get into the diplomatic service and get paid for going on holidays as my job. Ugh.

[guitarded_chuck]

I'm going to law school and specialize in environmental law bitches

[Iskandar]

Ugh, I have no idea what I want to do after uni.Philosopher.

...

Philosopher-king?

[StreetlightRock]

Hm, well it's always been a dream of mine to become president of the world and play a worldwide game of Simon Says.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

i hope after uni i can become mx mod

[StreetlightRock]

you are not qualified

[Mr. Ron]

So I basically cut a giant gash in my leg today with an axe while chopping wood :(

[1338 h4x0r]

sharpen that ax

[Iskandar]

Should've got a woman to do it.

[Mr. Ron]

Should've got a woman to do it.
I didn't have your number. :p

[McP3000]

cut her

[Mr. Ron]

women who can chop and stack wood are pretty hot tbh.


I'm getting ready for a house party and I need tons of wood for the fire we're having. None of that store bought BS. Mr. Ron will only settle for freshly fallen timber.

[McP3000]

heil

[Mr. Ron]

Harrison you are invited

[Iskandar]

women who can chop and stack wood are pretty hot tbh.You see? He can be taught!

[Mr. Ron]

You see? He can be taught!
Never said women can't engage in physical work.


Alex you're still my bb

[Iskandar]

Physical work like shooting a gun.

[McP3000]

Harrison you are invited
ive been known to lay down the lumber

[Mr. Ron]

Physical work like shooting a gun.
Physical work like being in the kitchen making me dinner naked


that would be great

[McP3000]

i dont want my woman to make me dinner naked

dinner would never get cooked because id get horny and **** her

[Iskandar]

Shooting a gun naked.

[Mr. Ron]

Shooting a gun naked.
even better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yryV-5TfwvE

[Iskandar]

They call it skeet for a reason.

[Mr. Ron]

heyyoooo

[YDtoad]

Hey Smokey, I've started a book on the history of NZ. The early 1800s demonstrate what comes of anarchy.

It's pretty interesting.

In other news, a majority of Americans are now pro-life :D

[Iskandar]

I'm pro-life too. I think life is great. I'm pretty happy with my life.

[sweboy]

In old news, a majority of American are morons.

[Aaron]

Should've got a woman to do it.
Women already have a gash.

[Mr. Ron]

Bearded axe wound.

[Already_Taken]

Hey Smokey, I've started a book on the history of NZ. The early 1800s demonstrate what comes of anarchy.

It's pretty interesting.

In other news, a majority of Americans are now pro-life :D

i'm pro-death

[mph4ever]

i'm pro what ever gets me into her knickers except pigs

[Mr. Ron]

It appears that I have found a bag of Reese's pieces behind my desk


How old? Not important.

[1338 h4x0r]

rofl

and rofl @ "bearded ax wound"

[Mr. Ron]

Let our avatar's superior facial hair combine in a terrifying union of power.

[1338 h4x0r]

let's 69

tbh

I shall lick no bearded ax wound, but polish thy gladivs

[Mr. Ron]

I like the way you think.

[Iskandar]

Tried to come up with a "licking your wounds" joke but couldn't. No good.

[Already_Taken]

but good thing you made that post anyways

[mph4ever]

posting out loud

[1338 h4x0r]

The crazy thing is that if I ever meet Ron, who lives like an hour away from my alma mater, with all these posts I've made over the past one and a half years, I will probably have no choice but to kneel down right there and suck him off

[Mr. Ron]

You're not going to take me to dinner first?

[1338 h4x0r]

Here's where I'm taking you:

http://n2.cdn.spikedhumor.com/1/528000/125101_dec15_07_1.jpg

lol "Hiteulleo"

[Mr. Ron]

Nice, we can eat then go down to the 7/11 to buy condoms and whipped cream.

[1338 h4x0r]

Heir Hiterer :mad:/

[Smokey D]

Hey Smokey, I've started a book on the history of NZ. The early 1800s demonstrate what comes of anarchy.

Explain.

Also, I'd prefer it if y'all toned your posts down a little bit.

[Iskandar]

Just because we have latent homo tendancies.

I thought you fancied yourself a liberal.

[Mr. Ron]

No.

[Iskandar]

I would agree except he used "y'all" and as y'all know that ain't really no word.

[Mr. Ron]

anything that is written and understood by even one person is a word

[Aaron]

Language is progressiv

Language is progressiv

Language is progressiv

Language is progressiv

Language is progressiv

Language is progressiv

[Smokey D]

I can appreciate that the sharing of knowledge can be a deep and intimate experience, but I don't think the homoeroticism needs to be quite as explicit as it is in some posts.

[Aaron]

Hey, there was no homoeroticism is my posts. I was talking about vaginas.

[Mr. Ron]

I think you may be overreacting

[Smokey D]

You have been warned. I'm not here to cut out everything, but use your common sense.

[Aaron]

Fly you fools.

[Mr. Ron]

There were two posts with "homoerotic" material in them.

[YDtoad]

Explain.


The crime, tribal warfare, etc.

[Aaron]

22000

[Iskandar]

anything that is written and understood by even one person is a wordHow about hapax legomemnon.
I can appreciate that the sharing of knowledge can be a deep and intimate experience, but I don't think the homoeroticism needs to be quite as explicit as it is in some posts.It wouldn't be as much of a problem if this forum weren't such a sausage fest tbh.

[StreetlightRock]

Are you calling for role playing? I think you are.

[Mr. Ron]

I am more than willing to be the dungeon master


How about hapax legomemnon.

what does that even mean