PNWI Community Thread version 3.0 (KEEP REFRIGERATED AT ALL TIMES)

[1338 h4x0r]

Here's the original Behind the Mask, by Yellow Magic Orchestra:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2VqMaA8mX0

Here's the Eric Clapton cover:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64dUqMxxyjQ

YMO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clapton

Incidentally the Japanese transliteration of Clapton, "Kuraputon", sounds kind of like "Crapton" if you say it fast enough

@ Wario Mario, I also signed up on Stormfront to screw with them but they moderate everything so it's a waste of time

Love the banjo in that video ...... love the post hoc reasoning too!

[Aaron]

so i'm talking to this bloke and he tells me that his wifes sister is married to his son and both couples have kids

so his sons sister in law is also his sons kids step grandmother and aunt and his own wife

his son is an uncle to his kids as well as being a step brother

what the **** do these people put on greeting cards or do they just buy 3 to cover all issues

this is the most head wrecking piece of information anyone has ever disclosed to me

Dear Relation,
I hope you enjoy the holiday season, and utilise the condom's I've enclosed so that you never again breed.

Best Wishes,
Aaron

[Iskandar]

Condoms*

[Mr. Ron]

con-DAMNED

[Mr. Ron]

I liked this essay, and pretty much agree with all of it:

http://www.paulgraham.com/love.html

[Wario Mario]

@ Wario Mario, I also signed up on Stormfront to screw with them but they moderate everything so it's a waste of time

yeah it sucks

i registered as double bass jim (tee hee) and tried rallying everyone together to launch a full on war against the jews and negroes, and sadly i was met with a bunch of "separate but equal" comments

wtf i thought these people were nazis

[1338 h4x0r]

I liked this essay, and pretty much agree with all of it:

http://www.paulgraham.com/love.html

How did you find Paul Graham's website

[die of starvation]

I liked this essay, and pretty much agree with all of it:

http://www.paulgraham.com/love.html

This test is especially helpful in deciding between different kinds of academic work, because fields vary greatly in this respect. Most good mathematicians would work on math even if there were no jobs as math professors, whereas in the departments at the other end of the spectrum, the availability of teaching jobs is the driver: people would rather be English professors than work in ad agencies, and publishing papers is the way you compete for such jobs. Math would happen without math departments, but it is the existence of English majors, and therefore jobs teaching them, that calls into being all those thousands of dreary papers about gender and identity in the novels of Conrad. No one does that kind of thing for fun.

i was with him until all this mind shattering stupidity
there's like a 1 in a million chance that someone is born autistic enough that the most fun thing they can come up with to do is math for no money

compared to the millions who read and discuss pretentious literature for fun and no money

i think neither thing is fun but he is way wrong about this

[Smokey D]

Tway, how would I give the legal citation for this case.

http://www.uniset.ca/other/cs4/776F2d571.html

I got this

Demjanjuk v Petrovsky 776 F.2d 571 (6th Cir. 1985)

[die of starvation]

Demjanjuk v. Petrovsky, 776 F.2d 571 (6th cir. 1985).

[Smokey D]

Cool.

[Iskandar]

So the Tway must use proper spelling and punctuation for school. That's weird to think about.

[Smokey D]

Legal citation is the worst thing about law school.

After the crazy work loads and the piles of super pretentious people who think the law school is special because it's tucked away on the arse end of the university 10 minutes walk from everything else.

[1338 h4x0r]

i was with him until all this mind shattering stupidity
there's like a 1 in a million chance that someone is born autistic enough that the most fun thing they can come up with to do is math for no money

http://thegoodbadandtheblah.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/pythagoreans.jpg

[Iskandar]

Legal citation is the worst thing about law school.Citations in general piss me off because I'm paranoid about making sure they're correct even though I know they already are and a minor error won't matter. I just want to save face I think.
After the crazy work loads and the piles of super pretentious people who think the law school is special because it's tucked away on the arse end of the university 10 minutes walk from everything else.Or the super pretentious people who think they're special because they go to law school.

(I'm bitter that I probably won't make as much money as them.)

[Smokey D]

It's hard to tell where the pretentiousness for being tucked away and the pretentiousness for going to law school in general separate. But either way it's ****ing annoying.

And citations are ultra lame because if you make a mistake they're like bam 5 marks off.

Sucks for whoever's going through this essay. there's 40 citations.

[Mr. Ron]

why do you want to go to lawlschool?

[beso negro]

i was with him until all this mind shattering stupidity
there's like a 1 in a million chance that someone is born autistic enough that the most fun thing they can come up with to do is math for no money

yes because there's no use for math in industry

why do you want to go to lawlschool?

for the monies why else

[1338 h4x0r]

Tway is apparently under the impression that no one does anything other than watch reality television and listen to shitty pop music unless it's for money

[Mr. Ron]

yes because there's no use for math in industry



for the monies why else
Of course, for some people. However I don't see how anyone can possibly be genuinely interest in law. Eh, different strokes.

[1338 h4x0r]

get on aim ron

[die of starvation]

yes because there's no use for math in industry

:confused:
so you didn't read what he said i guess

because you couldn't think that people would do math for industry for free that doesn't even make sense

also this guy totally misapprehends prestige it's a function of jealousy not something that is made up by governments or some other body that oversees the economy

[beso negro]

:confused:
so you didn't read what he said i guess

because you couldn't think that people would do math for industry for free that doesn't even make sense

you implied the only work for mathematicians was in academia

[die of starvation]

ok so you didn't read the article then

he was responding to his question of would you do what you do for no money
the question wasn't would you do what you do for industry

[Smokey D]

Of course, for some people. Eh, different strokes.

Well there's the money.

But also the intellectual stimulation.

However I don't see how anyone can possibly be genuinely interest in law.

My guess is you have never been exposed to theoretical work on law.

[StreetlightRock]

I think law is cool. I mean, look at Boston Legal >.>

[Iskandar]

Law is probably more interesting than it sounds, at least when you learn the basic concepts and get into more advanced stuff.

One thing I will never understand the appeal of is finance. You make bank, sure, but it looks like the most singularly boring and soul-crushing profession in the world.

[Aaron]

It's very complex and niche based. I enjoy it because it rationalises things.

[StreetlightRock]

Finance I get, the thrill of seeing money just multiply is like a drug. Now, accounting....

[Aaron]

Accounting is an easy career to make money in. It's structured and predictable. You clock in and make money.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

dtAjkte

[StreetlightRock]

Accounting is an easy career to make money in. It's structured and predictable. You clock in and make money.

I know but talk about soulless!



I think Noonward has finally lost it

[Iskandar]

Accounting is what people take when they don't know what they want to take. Or psychology.

[Already_Taken]

i just changed my major (for the 2nd time) to history from finance. i have no motivation, so i need to study something that i love. and history is easy. (unlike music, you have to pretty much be a virtuoso on two instruments to get in the program here.) that was my original plan but i didn't even get accepted and i get lots of compliments on trombone and guitar playing :(:(

[ridethelib]

psychology is soooooooooooooooooooo boooooorrrrrrrriiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg

[Already_Taken]

the intro class is for sure. learning about the brain? it is the base of the entire science though....

unrelated, hannity gets owned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsUfbjYXBrs&feature=related

i almost posted it in you laugh you lose jk no i didn't but yea

[Amit]

psychology is hilariously easy

it's for those on athletics scholarships

[Already_Taken]

um there's such a thing as getting a doctorate at other universities as well, buddy. That's what you do when you study psychology.

[Amit]

um there's such a thing as getting a doctorate at other universities as well, buddy. That's what you do when you study psychology.

tell me more since i totally don't go to one of the best universities in the world to do psychology and haven't had to take like a dozen classes in that playground of a department

[WEARELEGIONANDWEAREMANY]

Really? Wow! None of us have heard that you go to john hopkins before. Feel free to tell us again.

[Amit]

i go to johns hopkins guys

[1338 h4x0r]

I noticed that you like The Knife too

For once we agree on something huh

[Amit]

yeah heartbeats is ****ing awesom

[1338 h4x0r]

I like how they wear plague doctor outfits and how Karin's voice is at once horribly flawed and seductive; she's like the Swedish Akiko Yano

Man Sweden is awesome

[Amit]

sweden is insane

[Aaron]

I actually agree with you on something Amit haha

[Der Übermensch]

i go to johns hopkins guys

Your school may be better than mine, but Baltimore makes DC look like a heavenly paradise (albeit my entire knowledge of Balmar is from watching the Wire).

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm at UB now, but I'd like to finish my graduate degree at ANU hopefully

[Aaron]

Australian National University?

[Amit]

Your school may be better than mine, but Baltimore makes DC look like a heavenly paradise (albeit my entire knowledge of Balmar is from watching the Wire).

what does this have to do with our schools

and shrug i'm not the the kind of person who is only interesting when living in a place like NYC so i've been having an amazing time in baltimore

you guys ever notice that though; the people who live in the most interesting cities in the world like london, new york city, or whatever are usually horrifically boring because their personalities and social capabilities wither away because their surroundings are interesting enough to make up for it

the kids from NYC or london who go here are the ones who i feel the most sorry for; they're soooo awkward and whiny all the time

then again i'm outgoing and charming enough to have fun wherever i go :]

[Der Übermensch]

Not much. I just would hate to live in Balmar :p

[1338 h4x0r]

Australian National University?

Yeah it won't be as expensive probably, especially if I can become a resident

It's funny: I always want to have a different experience. In truth, I'd be exchanging one huge Anglo country and one huge public research university for another

[Amit]

i love living here actually

then again i live in a massive apartment right above a pretty upscale vegan restaurant and bar

although if you walk like a mile and a half away from campus to the east or south, you probably will get your **** stolen/beaten out of you

mmm balmer

not balmar :p

[Der Übermensch]

Balmar is short for Baltimore Maryland so I will not pretend like Maryland is spelled with an E.

[Aaron]

Yeah it won't be as expensive probably, especially if I can become a resident

It's funny: I always want to have a different experience. In truth, I'd be exchanging one huge Anglo country and one huge public research university for another
Cool. Come visit and we can drink beer, talk **** and listen to Darkthrone.

[1338 h4x0r]

I don't drink alcohol, but I can certainly talk **** and listen to Darkthrone

[Aaron]

I'll drink alcohol and you can laugh at the bullshit I say, then.

[Amit]

mmm alcohol

[1338 h4x0r]

I'll drink alcohol and you can laugh at the bullshit I say, then.

Yeah I've done that before tbh

Except it was with pot

[Aaron]

Word to that. I think I'll dig out my old brewing kit and start brewing beer again.

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm going to dig out my dipset and wait fo mah shawtie ta hit me wiff sum dick

[Aaron]

I don't know what that means.

[1338 h4x0r]

Neither do I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPxXfL2kmfg

[Iskandar]

I'll drink alcohol and you can laugh at the bullshit I say, then."Ooh, can I have one of those giant beers I've heard so much about?"
"Heeya you go."
"... it's pretty big."

[Aaron]

:lol:

I see you've played knifey-spoony before!

[die of starvation]

psychology is hilariously easy

it's for those on athletics scholarships

i skipped the first 2 weeks of abnormal psyche showed up on the first day of the 3rd class then there was a test and i got a A-

[Amit]

ab psych i loved that class

i showed up for the first week never came back except for the 3 tests and final and got an A

lulz AND ALL THE TESTS WERE MULTIPLE CHOICE

oh man psychology is lolarious

[die of starvation]

ya i took 3 psych classes they were all multiple choice tests

[1338 h4x0r]

ab psych i loved that class

i showed up for the first week never came back except for the 3 tests and final and got an A

lulz AND ALL THE TESTS WERE MULTIPLE CHOICE

oh man psychology is lolarious

You can guess a lot of things of psych tests

I didn't study for my final at all

I know a few are wrong but it can't be worse than a B+

[Aaron]

I did Quantitative Methods last saturday without an equation-sheet or the z-score tables. Used a simple calculator. When the lady collected my papers she asked whether I knew I was meant to of had the equations and tables to use and I informed her I didn't. LOL

[die of starvation]

^ that was another class i took senior year i didn't even know what a z score was i got a C
college is too easy

also last i checked with my sister she was a psych major

[1338 h4x0r]

How can you do normal distribution calculations with a simple calculator?

What kind of calculator are we talking about?

[Aaron]

My brain is a calculator bro. It was 5-option multiple choice, and I know how the equations work so it wasn't a huge effort to render it down to single-moment stuff and infer which of the values would've worked or not. It was one of those ultra simple calculators, didn't even have memory or a SD key. I passed by the way. Pitty I didn't realise the tables were there as I'd probably had gone better, but Ps equal degrees.

[spitfirejunky]

Am I the only one who took that version of statistics where you literally had to calculate an integral in order to figure out any probabilty or deduce a parameter?

[Aaron]

We have to in tutorials, but not in exam conditions cause it takes too long.

[spitfirejunky]

Hehe I guess not.

[Aaron]

Sadly so. I've got four statistics classes to do in my degree.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

i havent finished a year of uni yet but i played solitaire after i was done my english exam waiting for the minimum time to leave and got highest mark in the school

/uni noob

[Aaron]

Nice one Jordo.

[Already_Taken]

i got a 31% on my calc test over integrals. about average...

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

i got 12 percent on my math exam i barely passed i think

[Aaron]

i got a 31% on my calc test over integrals. about average...
I got 56% without the sheety stuffs.

[1338 h4x0r]

:'(

I always aim for an 80 at the least

[Aaron]

I was busy with work and didn't really prepare. Remember I work a 50 hour working week PLUS uni study. lol.

[1338 h4x0r]

And then MX ...... it's better if you can focus more

[Aaron]

And then my band, and art, and being a landlord, and mx.

[1338 h4x0r]

Landlord?

How much do you sleep every day?

[Aaron]

Yep, I own my apartment.
Between 3 - 6 hours.

[1338 h4x0r]

Holy cow

[Aaron]

I work hard for the money
I work haaard for the money

[1338 h4x0r]

I like not working haaard for money

Which is why working in libraries rules

[Aaron]

I wanted to be a librarian. I used to be an archivist.

[1338 h4x0r]

Libraries just rule *** in general

[Pop music sucks]

My high school librarian is a milf. A fine vintage of 53 years age.

[1338 h4x0r]

siqq dude

Talk about Hypatia with her for awhile

Then put it in her butt once she falls for you

[Aaron]

Can you get me that book from the bottom shelf please, miss?

[1338 h4x0r]

no, the top shelf

remember that one Beavis and Butthead episode?

[Pop music sucks]

There are a few avenues to eventually get in her pants, if I had wanted to try.

She said she's willing to teach me to cook
I promised her a ride in a Cessna Skyhawk

Those two in tandem would work immensely.

[1338 h4x0r]

do it

dooooo it

[Pop music sucks]

At the moment I'm getting my pilot's license and I'm like, 385 miles away from her. I should get the license in about two and a half weeks, so I'll be back down then. And then I might be going down on the decimal system ifayougettawhatImeana ;]

[1338 h4x0r]

So you'll be in the section where they have the computer science literature and all the faggoty UFO books?

That doesn't sound sexy

:(

[Aaron]

Nothing says hot librarian sex like card-catalogues.

[1338 h4x0r]

yeah tbh, I'd like to s3x0r at least one librarian in my time

Based on the kind of people I associate with, there's a very good chance of that happening

[Pop music sucks]

There's something irresistable and feral in the look of the hot librarian.

[Aaron]

The only thing keeping those legs together is their skirt.

[1338 h4x0r]

There's something irresistable and feral in the look of the hot librarian.

Well it's probably the idea that they are in a cloistered, serene environment most of the day, and must be inclined to swing to an opposite pole as soon as they get out of it

i.e., similar mystique as Scandinavian or East Asian women

Why am I talking about this

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

well thats mighty convenient i happen to be a scandinavian and east asian librarian

[Iskandar]

:lol:

I see you've played knifey-spoony before!"Cof-fee."

"Bee-a."

"C-o..."

"B-e..."

[mph4ever]

The only thing keeping those legs together is their skirt.

plaid

with high heels

brunette

glasses

melt

and anyway - if these conversations are going to mean anything to future generations then we need to add pics

[Iskandar]

Ah, dude.

[Pop music sucks]

As for their pantyhose, I imagine that it is either crotchless pantyhose, or really thigh-high stockings hooked up to a garter belt and nothing else, no thong. To give a sort of hidden tease and exhiliration of someone were to find out, or told someone that they find sexually attracted to.

[Already_Taken]

knee highs and brown eyes
britneys comin on to me
short shirt and plaid skirt
she's the schoolgirl that i love

[ridethelib]

:lol: @ this discussion

[McP3000]

now this is the real type of PNWI discussion that benefits my intellect

[Iskandar]

thigh-high stockings hooked up to a garter belt and nothing elseAhhh.

[Mr. Ron]

hey guys, what would be a clear, text-book example of corruption in Africa?

[Iskandar]

Zimbabwe.

Actually there are lots in history so you don't have far to look.

Try Idi Amin in Uganda.

[Mr. Ron]

Already touched on Mugabe.

Going to look into Uganda.

[Iskandar]

Try the Central African Republic guy who crowned himself Emperor.

It will scare you.

[Mr. Ron]

Oh, Bokassa? He was a nut.

[Iskandar]

The ceremony cost millions of dollars in a country where the average person lives on a few dollars a day.

[Mr. Ron]

Spiffy uniforms though.

[Iskandar]

Don't all the dictatorships have them.

[Mr. Ron]

Well idk, Castro wears that boring green uniform all the time. Can't wait till he dies.

[mph4ever]

amin wasn't corrupt, just stone mad

liberia is probably up there in corruption stakes

[Iskandar]

Well idk, Castro wears that boring green uniform all the time. Can't wait till he dies.Nothing much will change because Raúl is pretty much Castro lite. But when he dies, who knows what might happen.
amin wasn't corrupt, just stone madI'd say that distinction is immaterial given the results.
liberia is probably up there in corruption stakesYeah I agree.

Don't they have a new leader though (a woman) who's promised to turn things around. Idk. I saw it on the Daily Show.

[Smokey D]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption

[YDtoad]

Try the Central African Republic guy who crowned himself Emperor.

It will scare you.

Bokassa would be funny if he wasn't so frightening. Actually he still was kinda :lol:
But only like Jason.

Menghistu (probably spelling his name right) was one of the worst dictators of post-colonial Africa; he presided over a famine in Ethiopia and let millions of people starve to death. Last known address was a shelter in Zimbabwe. Maybe the new govt will force him out.

Teodoro Obiang in Equitorial Guinea declared that he is in direct contact with the almighty and can kill anyone he wants without question. And his predecessor (also his uncle) actually made him look sane and reasonable in comparison. EG has one of the highest GDP/capita...but most of its citizens are dirt poor. Yeah you can do the math.

The guy who was dictator of Malawi until he died at roughly 100 was also totally bonkers.

[Iskandar]

Menghistu (probably spelling his name right) was one of the worst dictators of post-colonial Africa; he presided over a famine in Ethiopia and let millions of people starve to death.Forgot about him.

Wasn't he the reason the Derg came to power, ie. they decided communists were better than that guy.

[YDtoad]

Forgot about him.

Wasn't he the reason the Derg came to power, ie. they decided communists were better than that guy.

No he was the result. Haile Selassie really wasn't bad.

[Mr. Ron]

sup steve

[YDtoad]

sup steve

:wave: sup. Done with school.

[Mr. Ron]

Sweet. What are you going to do?

[YDtoad]

Sweet. What are you going to do?

Work, pay off loans, then probably get my doctorate.

[Smokey D]

I thought your life plan was to stay at college as long as possible.

[YDtoad]

I thought your life plan was to stay at college as long as possible.

That's kinda what getting a doctorate involves ;)

[Smokey D]

What did you major in eventually.

[YDtoad]

What did you major in eventually.

history and political science.

[Smokey D]

What areas?

[YDtoad]

What areas?

My concentration for history was race and ethnicity. Really it meant that I took a bunch of courses in African history (but not enough to constitute a concentration) and needed to have some way of conceptually linking together my work.

For poli sci, political behavior.

[Mr. Ron]

I'm pretty excited for my summer classes. I'm taking some cake classes to get my credits up, however one of them is a Film Noir class that should be interesting.

[YDtoad]

I'm pretty excited for my summer classes. I'm taking some cake classes to get my credits up, however one of them is a Film Noir class that should be interesting.

I got a B in a film elective course, one of only 2 Bs I got. In a film class:smash::smash:

[1338 h4x0r]

Work, pay off loans, then probably get my doctorate.

Are you going to score at some point

[Smokey D]

I wouldn't expect film theory to be easy for people with a different specialistion.

[Mr. Ron]

I got a B in a film elective course, one of only 2 Bs I got. In a film class:smash::smash:
haha

what did you have to do? Interpret the films or?

[YDtoad]

I wouldn't expect film theory to be easy for people with a different specialistion.


haha

what did you have to do? Interpret the films or?

No, this is the worst part! I think I would've aced a basic film theory course. This was a course on d0cumentary filmmaking that turned into a huge independent project for students who could make it to a different location and spend long hours at night editing together a short d0cumentary class. And basically for everyone else it was impossible to get an A. Major mistake. Could've taken and aced a poli sci research methods course with a great professor. Instead I took a worthless class and got a B.

[Smokey D]

It's good for the soul to do things you don't excel at.

[Mr. Ron]

oh sweet Odin's beard tell me you do not believe in a "soul".

[YDtoad]

It's good for the soul to do things you don't excel at.

If I wanted to do that I'd have taken a physics course :p

I do pretty well at film classes; I've taken two before. This one though....:smoke:

I took two challenging seminars in areas that I don't naturally excel at though (theory and IR), so I was proud about those As :D

[Mr. Ron]

Physics is so interesting though.

[Smokey D]

Good for the soul is an idiom.

[Mr. Ron]

I was giving you ****. ;]

[YDtoad]

Physics is so interesting though.

I only find physics interesting when it gets to the level of astrophysics and theoretical stuff. Everything before that and beside that I find dreadfully dull.

There are a bunch of linguistics courses that I could've also taken. Syntactic theory, etc.

Neuroscience would've fun too. But I was totally unqualified.

[1338 h4x0r]

I wouldn't expect film theory to be easy for people with a different specialistion.

If hard-pressed, I would just start comparing things to penes and vaginae in an inappropriate way.

Wrong: "The xenomorph of the Alien franchise gives a sexually ambiguous impression."

Right: "Finding Nemo represented the struggle of sperm to impregnate egg cells."

[Mr. Ron]

Yeah the theoretical side of physics is amazing.

[Iskandar]

For poli sci, political behavior.What's that, electoral behaviour and stuff.

There's a name for that specialization but I didn't even consider picking it so I can't remember it.

Global politics please.

[Smokey D]

I thought you were going to do literature.

[YDtoad]

What's that, electoral behaviour and stuff.

It extends beyond merely electoral behavior but that's part of it.

Global politics please.

Eww yuck. Wait till you have to do formal analysis.

[beso negro]

i hate it when people think they understand physics when they don't have any knowledge of the math behind it. everyone and their brother thinks they have a plausible unification theory. first derive x = x0 + v0t + at^2/2 from v = v0 + at
and we'll talk.

[Iskandar]

It extends beyond merely electoral behavior but that's part of it.Even that is boring to me. Like game theory and stuff? I care far more about who's in power than the results of the election.
Eww yuck. Wait till you have to do formal analysis.Well I have a long way to go yet.

But I think I'm interested in it enough that it doesn't matter.

[YDtoad]

Even that is boring to me. Like game theory and stuff? I care far more about who's in power than the results of the election.
Well I have a long way to go yet.

But I think I'm interested in it enough that it doesn't matter.

No we don't do game theory in political behavior. You'll do it in IR ;)

Political behavior is dominated by survey and experimental research.

[beso negro]

good luck finding in ur field a job steve

im graduating in a week and a half. already have a job that pays me 50k+ starting. got to pay 15K in loans though god damnit.

[Iskandar]

No we don't do game theory in political behavior. You'll do it in IR ;)Haha, I don't do IR either.

It's marginally interesting to me, but ultimately kind of dry, and I don't like the conclusions lots of people derive from it.

Besides global politics is pretty broad and incorporates pretty much every branch of pol sci to a greater or lesser degree.
Political behavior is dominated by survey and experimental research.I still think that sounds boring.

What exactly do researchers in the field do.

[Smokey D]

I thought political behavior was pretty big on the rational choice stuff.


What exactly do researchers in the field do.

Work out why people vote certain ways, and what poltical issues matter to them, I guess.

I imagine there's a fairly big consultancy industry for them.

[Iskandar]

I thought political behavior was pretty big on the rational choice stuff.Yeah that's what electoral behaviour is. Still doesn't really interest me though.

At that point it starts to feel more like statistics than politics.
Work out why people vote certain ways, and what poltical issues matter to them, I guess.

I imagine there's a fairly big consultancy industry for them.Yeah think tanks.

[1338 h4x0r]

i hate it when people think they understand physics when they don't have any knowledge of the math behind it. everyone and their brother thinks they have a plausible unification theory. first derive x = x0 + v0t + at^2/2 from v = v0 + at
and we'll talk.

That's easy

Just integrate velocity and let x0 be the constant of integration

However I don't see how understanding these things is essential for understanding the gist of many physical laws

For example, I don't know a single equation behind thermodynamics and still I can tell that a free energy quack or creationist is fibbing when he proposes something that violates (or misinterprets, as the case may be), the 1st or 2nd laws

[Iskandar]

This is why I don't pretend to understand physics.

[1338 h4x0r]

Huh?

[Smokey D]

If I'm a theoretician, I pay a technician to work out all the boring details.

[1338 h4x0r]

I have a bacon / feta pizza

This is like the most non-Jewish pizza ever

Did you see how the Peter Sellers character Doctor Strangelove heiled spastically?

I'm doing that now

[Iskandar]

I love how you claim to be a Jew yet don't keep kosher.

I had a pizza with red onion.

[1338 h4x0r]

I was merely born Jewish; I told you I'm a turncoat Neoplatonist

This blasphemic pizza goes well with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEZ3VxGWwjM

elektronisch Muzick ov ein former Axizpower :angry:/

[Iskandar]

Yes and I am tsar of all the Russias.

[1338 h4x0r]

really

how do you say Heil in Russian

[Iskandar]

I don't think you can translate that.

[1338 h4x0r]

I am tsar of all the heilers

[Already_Taken]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/09/full-video-obamas-white-h_n_201264.html

god damn i love that guy

[YDtoad]

I thought political behavior was pretty big on the rational choice stuff.

It was a long time ago (see: Anthony Downs) but not anymore, because there's pretty much been a conclusion: there is no such thing as a rational vote. Voting is irrational behavior in the purest form of calculation. When you take into account soft motivators (eg sense of responsibility) then you get a logical framework leading to irrational calculations.

But that's a very small part of political behavior.



Work out why people vote certain ways, and what poltical issues matter to them, I guess.

I imagine there's a fairly big consultancy industry for them.

Depends on what you concentrate on specifically, but there'd be a chance that I'd be able to do consulting work.

I still think that sounds boring.

What exactly do researchers in the field do.

A number of things. For instance, there's a lot of work done on the efficacy of negative ads. Some analyze what is necessary to have a democracy in a developing nation. There are a few different models voter turnout, and much work done on those (eg social-psychological, the one I'm most interested in).

The specific thing I'm interested in is receptiveness to immigrants, cross-nationally and within nations. Also the role of religion in shaping social tolerance, etc.

[WEARELEGIONANDWEAREMANY]

Why do minorities have such a big voice in society? It irks us. It seems an obvious thing to say, but minorities were minorities for a reason. Why put special emphasis on them?

[Der Übermensch]

Because of how voting works.
In multi-party parliamentary systems, pandering to the small niche parties are often essential for enough clout to form a government.
In 2 party systems like the US, there are huge blocks of people who will vote Dem or Rep regardless, and only a small number who realistically can be swayed. Those are the people who will get pandered too.

[Wario Mario]

most illegals don't/can't vote though so who cares about their opinion

if they couldn't obey the law enough to become legal then why should they even be a target demographic

[Smokey D]

Why do minorities have such a big voice in society? It irks us. It seems an obvious thing to say, but minorities were minorities for a reason. Why put special emphasis on them?

Because we think that all people are entitled to certain goods, and failure to pay heed to the needs of minorities makes it more likely for them not to get those goods.

most illegals don't/can't vote though so who cares about their opinion

if they couldn't obey the law enough to become legal then why should they even be a target demographic

Where did that come from.

[Wario Mario]

that reminds me of something too that pissed me off

i was watching tv the other day and a commercial came on where a mexican woman with a heavy accent was saying, "I have no social security number, I have no ID, but I was STILL able to get a car with good financing at x dealership"

why should anyone bother being a registered citizen when life is so much easier without papers

Where did that come from.

from the depths of my angry black soul

[WEARELEGIONANDWEAREMANY]

because we think that all people are entitled to certain goods, and failure to pay heed to the needs of minorities makes it more likely for them not to get those goods.

why should be pander to people who are different? It's inefficient.

[Smokey D]

why should be pander to people who are different? It's inefficient.

I dunno if we should. I was just saying why we did it.


why should anyone bother being a registered citizen when life is so much easier without papers


Yes, getting a car is all that matters when it comes to making life easy.

[Wario Mario]

Yes, getting a car is all that matters when it comes to making life easy.

it was one example

illegals can get drivers licenses without papers, they can get employment without papers, they can collect welfare without papers, etc

just because they aren't in the upper-middle class doesn't mean that they don't have it a hell of a lot easier than a good number of legal citizens

[Smokey D]

just because they aren't in the upper-middle class doesn't mean that they don't have it a hell of a lot easier than a good number of legal citizens

Um, if they can do all that without papers, why can't poor people with papers do the same thing?

[Wario Mario]

Um, if they can do all that without papers, why can't poor people with papers do the same thing?

because the system is more generous to minorities and illegals

there are different sets of standards

[Smokey D]

I highly doubt it but Community thread isn't the place to talk about it.

[Wario Mario]

i only live here what would i know

[Smokey D]

Probably quite a lot.

But that's not a reason in itself for me to believe you.

I mean what if I found someone who lived in the US who disagreed with you? Who would I believe?

[Iskandar]

because the system is more generous to minorities and illegalsNot really though.

[Wario Mario]

Probably quite a lot.

But that's not a reason in itself for me to believe you.

I mean what if I found someone who lived in the US who disagreed with you? Who would I believe?

well since i've been proven infallible on several occasions, naturally you should believe me

Not really though.

yeah never mind the fact that they have access to employment while tens of thousands of legal, needing, legal americans do not

that's the most basic example available and you don't really need anymore than that to spot the bias

[Smokey D]

yeah never mind the fact that they have access to employment while tens of thousands of legal, needing, legal americans do not

Um, those legal americans have access if they were willing to work for the same wages as immigrants.

But also, I don't buy into the idea that legals are more worthy of jobs/whatever in virtue of their legal status.

[Iskandar]

well since i've been proven infallible on several occasions, naturally you should believe melol.
yeah never mind the fact that they have access to employment while tens of thousands of legal, needing, legal americans do not

that's the most basic example available and you don't really need anymore than that to spot the biasTHEY TERK ARR JABS

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

I'm native american and I feel I deserve the free things I get because if you guys can be a nation so can I, and I can take what I can take from Canada because it's not my choice to be part of this country.

The reason my viewpoint is possible is because of the very thoughtful treatment that we have been given, I'm glad you didn't kill us all, we have the prerogative to capitalistically be free as well, being the sovereign entities we are as per the contracts the Canadian goverment signed.

I intend to take full advantage of what I can get and encourage anyone I know who can to as well.

/trollbait

[Bruce E Kinesis]

is this section still stale and snoring or has it been filled with some kind of "lease" of "life"

[die of starvation]

It was a long time ago (see: Anthony Downs) but not anymore, because there's pretty much been a conclusion: there is no such thing as a rational vote. Voting is irrational behavior in the purest form of calculation. When you take into account soft motivators (eg sense of responsibility) then you get a logical framework leading to irrational calculations.

zerocool is right

[McP3000]

sup

[1338 h4x0r]

Immanuel Kant?

More like

Immanuel Kunt

[Mr. Ron]

definitely.

[Iskandar]

Immanuel Can't write.

[Mr. Ron]

booooooooooo


boooooooooooooooooooooo


boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[1338 h4x0r]

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Immanuel_Kant

[Mr. Ron]

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kraftwerk


“I was walking home one night, after imbibing a few too many, whereupon I discovered this rural nightclub. The music sounded really good, like Kraftwerk, but the door was locked so I knocked on it und tried to ascertain what they were playing. When I awoke the next day I was reliably informed that I had been banging on the door of an electricity generator”

~ Oscar Wilde (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Oscar_Wilde) on his love of electronica and the pleasures of drinking

[Iskandar]

Hey, shatab. I love Kraftwerk and Oscar Wilde as well.

[1338 h4x0r]

sup guys speaking of people who worship Kraftwerk, I'm listening to Akiko Yano's version of Tong Poo and jerking it to her off-key singing

[Bruce E Kinesis]

uncyclopedia

about as funny as the death of a loved one

[1338 h4x0r]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm9ch6oxKiM

[1338 h4x0r]

I just found out Freddie Mercury was a Parsi who grew up in India

Born Farrokh Bulsara

lol mind**** of the century

[Iskandar]

Wasn't he a Zoroastrian born in the Maldives or something.

[Smokey D]

It's the same thing.

[1338 h4x0r]

Freddie Mercury grew up in South Asia n' shi

Then he gave AIDS to Eazy-E

[Iskandar]

It's the same thing.Parsi just means Persian doesn't it?

[1338 h4x0r]

Might be related but not the same

[Iskandar]

Well the Maldives are near India but they're not the same either.

[1338 h4x0r]

Um yeah but he grew up in India

Homeaux

[Smokey D]

Parsi just means Persian doesn't it?

Parsi are descended Zoroastrians who fled to India after the Islamic conquest of Iran. I dunno if they're still Zoroastrian.

[Iskandar]

That makes a little more sense.

[Smokey D]

Also, Freddy Mercury was born on Zanzibar.

[1338 h4x0r]

Yes but he grew up in India n shi

[Iskandar]

Okay, lots of people grow up in India. It just so happens that a famous rock musician did.

[1338 h4x0r]

Yeah but I thought he was ethnically British or at least ethnically European all these years, he did a really good job of hiding it

[Iskandar]

Why. He wasn't pale or anything.

He did do a good job of hiding that he was gay for a while so.

[1338 h4x0r]

Why. He wasn't pale or anything.

Some Britons is swarthy

He did do a good job of hiding that he was gay for a while so.

homeaux de l'Inde

[Already_Taken]

Why. He wasn't pale or anything.

He did do a good job of hiding that he was gay for a while so.

maybe to you, queerbag

[Jim West]

lol queerbag

[Iskandar]

maybe to you, queerbagYes. I, Iskandar, am a gay man. I take it in the butt frequently.

[Jim West]

Yes. I, Iskandar, am a gay man. I take it in the butt frequently.

you do realize i'm going to quote you on this forever now right

--

Yes. I, Iskandar, am a gay man. I take it in the butt frequently.

[Iskandar]

That's why I said it, durr.

[Jim West]

oh well that was very considerate of you

[Iskandar]

I aim to please.

[1338 h4x0r]

I saw Freddie Mercury at Wawa the other day

He said "Two for a dollar"

[McP3000]

I aim to please.
i bet you do:smash:

[1338 h4x0r]

true dat he never gets cum in my eyes

[Jim West]

if someone can spin every post iskandar makes for the next month to make him look flamboyantly gay, and i do mean every post, i will pay-pal them $100

[1338 h4x0r]

that's impossible

[Jim West]

which is why it's worth $100

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm getting $88.14 to do an online algebra class for someone

man **** dis

[Iskandar]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17239225&postcount=133

[mph4ever]

Why. He wasn't pale or anything.

He did do a good job of hiding that he was gay for a while so.

what? he fronted a band called queen. how out can you get?

[Iskandar]

At that time, rock stars weren't gay.

[mph4ever]

of course they were. its just the media didn't think it appropriate to carry such scandal

freddie was banging any young lad he could get his hands on

[Iskandar]

Yeah and his band knew what he was up to but his fans didn't. It shocked the world when he announced he had AIDS.

[mph4ever]

man he was as gay as hell. anyone who didn't realise were the ones that didn't realise the local priest was banging the altar boy. they just liked anthems and rock so much

[Already_Taken]

iskandar everyone knew he was gay, and if you didn't know then maybe you're gay. queerbag :p

[Iskandar]

Well I wasn't alive at the time.

But you'd think a gay man would have better gaydar.

[Already_Taken]

or maybe you'd think being gay was normal?

[Iskandar]

No, that's silly. Being gay is by definition not the norm. I think gay people are pretty aware of that, because certain segments of society take it upon themselves to remind them constantly.

[mph4ever]

No, that's silly. Being gay is by definition not the norm. I think gay people are pretty aware of that, because certain segments of society take it upon themselves to remind them constantly.

its the norm if you are gay though