PNWI Community Thread version 3.0 (KEEP REFRIGERATED AT ALL TIMES)

[hismajestythepope]

my adopted grandmother is 87

awesomest old lady ever

[Dr Hooch]

my actual grandmother is 94

but http://johnmccainisyourjalopy.com/

[siva_chair]

John McCain is right plastic zippers are the bee's knees.

[Iscariot]

my grandma turned 80 this year

[hismajestythepope]

nice.

[siva_chair]

My grandfather also turned 80 this year.

He's a crazy farmer.

[Pop music sucks]

My grandpa died two weeks ago.

[Dr Hooch]

live a good long life?

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/7082/loldl4.jpg

[Pop music sucks]

Yeah, I was surprised at how many people came to his funeral procession in remembrance.

:lol: at pic

[hismajestythepope]

that pic is wonderful, the dude on the right looks mad funny

[mph4ever]

age is not the issue, reagan was 70 and did 8 years at the top

[hismajestythepope]

yes but obama is younger than mccain and that makes him more qualified

and theyre the only two candidates

[Reaganista]

my grandpa was institutionalized a few weeks ago

o r we not talking about that anymore

[hismajestythepope]

my grandpa was molested in the crypt a few weeks ago

by gay vampires :(

[Reaganista]

sucks i worry that my other grandpa's corpse will get molested ****in gay vampires

[hismajestythepope]

yeah meng

you know what they say about vampire semen

[Reaganista]

ummm

[hismajestythepope]

it has no reflection

oh and its brown

[Dr Hooch]

tastes like sour cherries

[Iskandar]

yes but obama is younger than mccain and that makes him more qualified

and theyre the only two candidatesrawn pawl

[beso negro]

bob bawl

[McP3000]

ron paul is still running?

[Knifeboy]

run paol is still ronning?

[guitrguy]

lol

[mph4ever]

as a non american, i would like to see ron paul as president, hes a good old traditional republican

oh, serenity is cool, not as interesting or funny as the steve but its early days yet

[Iscariot]

i laughed so hard when mccain called reagan his hero at the last debate since reaganomics and the idea of a trickle down effect are a big part of our current god awful economy

and when he compared obama to hoover i facepalmed at least 20 times

[Dave de Sylvia]

It's not really trickle-down economics that's the problem. It's the fact that trickle-down economics isn't designed to cope with massive government spending like you have at the moment.

[Smokey D]

i laughed so hard when mccain called reagan his hero at the last debate since reaganomics and the idea of a trickle down effect are a big part of our current god awful economy

It's funny that the biggest proponents of trickle down economics have done the most to undermine it with their fiscal policies. It's pretty much a given that by itself tax cuts generally and tax cuts for businesses/entrepreneurs especially help the economy (but not necessarily social equity or what have you) but nothing in economics occurs in a vacuum. By coinicidence of various rightwing ideologies, proponents supply side economics and big government spending (especially on the military) have come to exist within the same party, the effect being all the positives of supply side economics (which do exist) are fatally undermined by the pressure of twin deficits.

So yeah, basically what Dave said.

[dustindow]

I'm back. I doubt anyone remembers me.

[Reaganista]

**** off!

[dustindow]

hey buddy that's not nice!

[Smokey D]

I remember the name but I have no idea what you think about things.

[Reaganista]

he was one of those -10, -10 political compass ppl iirc but i bet he's grown up since

[Iskandar]

Hey, I was one of those like three years ago. I think Steve had a name for it: Loony Lefty.

[Radiobass81]

he Was One Of Those -10, -10 Political Compass Ppl Iirc But I Bet He's Grown Up Since

-10, -10?

[Reaganista]

negative ten comma negative ten

[McP3000]

thats pretty much the epitome of idealistic stupidity

[Iskandar]

thats pretty much the epitome of idealistic stupidityrawn pawl

he's gunna do it

this is the year the libertarians win big time

[McP3000]

shi brah you got my juices flowing for a sec

[dustindow]

My views have changed these past 5 years.

[Iskandar]

shi brah you got my juices flowing for a sectime to take our government back

we have to stock our bunkers against that day

let's see big government try to take my guns away from me then!

[BassRevelation0]

I'm back. I doubt anyone remembers me.

whoa dude!

hows it been?

I remember you way back with luke (the drummer with the bush avatar, was that his name?) and the republican marine.

good to see someone worth mentioning back here

[Der Übermensch]

Dustin! I do remember you! Wb!

[McP3000]

time to take our government back

we have to stock our bunkers against that day

let's see big government try to take my guns away from me then!
imagine if the people of america revolted.

Ron Paul would be deemed supreme chancellor, and he would use his force powers to appoint a mighty apprentice in his stead

[Iskandar]

imagine if the people of america revolted.

Ron Paul would be deemed supreme chancellor, and he would use his force powers to appoint a mighty apprentice in his steadAnd if anyone dared to disagree with the new regime, this is what they'd get:

http://jediknight960.tripod.com/palpatine6.jpg

[siva_chair]

time to take our government back

we have to stock our bunkers against that day

let's see big government try to take my guns away from me then!

How does Big Brother's dick taste?

[Amit]

why does it always have to be about penises when it cums on you, siva

huh

huh

[siva_chair]

why does it always have to be about penises when it cums on you, siva

huh

huh

When what cums on me? I don't see jizz anywhere atm.

Would you like me to rephrase the question?

Is it hard to breathe with your head up Big Brother's ***?

[Iscariot]

i watch red dawn to get pumped for the revolution of the people

[siva_chair]

That movie is awesome.

[McP3000]

To even suggest that the people would stand a chance against the national army is preposterous

[Iscariot]

That movie is awesome.

yeah it is

To even suggest that the people would stand a chance against the national army is preposterous

no it isn't

guerrilla fighters have been fighting their way to political dominance against vastly superior forces for generations

it's usually the people who think the prospect of a smaller less technologically capable force winning is preposterous that end up getting their asses kicked

[siva_chair]

To even suggest that the people would stand a chance against the national army is preposterous

Umm....no?

[McP3000]

In America? I would definitely think the national army would have the upper hand if it was all out war.

[Iscariot]

In America? I would definitely think the national army would have the upper hand if it was all out war.

yeah sure assuming that the national army has no problem killing their friends, family, neighbors, and acquaintances

you're ignoring the human factor

like you said

America

we place a heavy weight on the value of human life and the love we have for those around us

united we stand divided we fall and all that jazz

i'd be willing to bet the next 60 years of my life that 90% of the military would switch sides if they were ordered to kill their fellow americans

[siva_chair]

In America? I would definitely think the national army would have the upper hand if it was all out war.

Yes in America.

The national army probably would have a far more difficult time fighting it's own citizens due to the fact that they would be fighting their fellow countrymen and not some camel farmer in the desert.

And all out war? No one fights like it's WWII anymore, especially civilian populations. Guerilla warfare is much more effective.

[McP3000]

well i forgot about the own people factor, families, friends, etc.

[Mister_Che]

If there were no issue with fighting civilians on their own soil, I don't see how the military could lose.

[siva_chair]

If there were no issue with fighting civilians on their own soil, I don't see how the military could lose.

Well, a prolonged war engaged with the very country of civilians that produces your military equipment and supplies is going to leave you pretty ****ed, pretty quickly, and you will see your technological advantage diminish fairly quickly.

If the US military engaged it's own citizens, it would quickly find lots of shortages on many levels of manufacturing and and industry, and the military-industrial complex would have to become dependent on foreign suppliers to maintain the vast technological advantage.

Keep in mind guerilla forces tend to prolong conflicts with conventional forces out of necessity, and the longer the war goes on, the worse off the conventional force is going to be as it's supplies are severely disrupted.

[Mister_Che]

I'd say buying from other countries could help, but it would certainly never keep up with the demand.

[siva_chair]

I'd say buying from other countries could help, but it would certainly never keep up with the demand.

Yeah, not even close.

Plus, attacking your own civilians also severely disrupts your funds to "buy" from other countries as well.

So you see, it isn't inconceivable that an armed revolution in the US could be successful, even against a highly technologically superior government military.

[Smokey D]

The only reason the military finds itself stumped by guerillas is because it can't do everything within its power. It's bound by political considerations.

If kill ratios are the only thing the military is concerned with, it'd just turn every region of resistance into glass, establish a cordon around disputed areas and bomb the crap out of any troop movements.

[Iskandar]

I know you want to live out your survivalist fantasies but srsly.

[dustindow]

Dustin! I do remember you! Wb!

I remember talking to you my friend a lot.

[siva_chair]

The only reason the military finds itself stumped by guerillas is because it can't do everything within its power. It's bound by political considerations.

If kill ratios are the only thing the military is concerned with, it'd just turn every region of resistance into glass, establish a cordon around disputed areas and bomb the crap out of any troop movements.

Sure, but that itself isn't usually in the best interest of a military. Especially one fighting in it's own nation, as being king of the graveyard doesn't help a whole lot.

[McP3000]

The only reason the military finds itself stumped by guerillas is because it can't do everything within its power. It's bound by political considerations.

If kill ratios are the only thing the military is concerned with, it'd just turn every region of resistance into glass, establish a cordon around disputed areas and bomb the crap out of any troop movements.
now thats what im talking about

[mph4ever]

what are boomer women?

[siva_chair]

what are boomer women?

Female Islamic Jihadists?

[mph4ever]

Female Islamic Jihadists?



nah, that would be ka-boomer women

[siva_chair]

Oic

[PerpetualBurn]

The national army probably would have a far more difficult time fighting it's own citizens due to the fact that they would be fighting their fellow countrymen and not some camel farmer in the desert.

Isn't this the part you ignore every time you talk about owning guns in case the government goes tyrannical?

[siva_chair]

Isn't this the part you ignore every time you talk about owning guns in case the government goes tyrannical?

No not at all.

I don't see how recognizing that this probable reality in any way diminishes an individual's right to own a firearm for protection.

The fact that it is probable that a large percentage of individuals in the military would not fight against it's own citizens hardly eliminates the essential checks and balances an armed populace provides and hardly provides any sort of argument against it.

[Dr Hooch]

wouldn't help in britain

if the government told them to then a nation of british gun owners would simply shoot themselves in the feet

it's a thing we do every few years we call it "elecshuns"

[mph4ever]

anyway, whats boomer women?

[Dr Hooch]

as in baby boomers?

women born in the 50s?

[siva_chair]

wouldn't help in britain

if the government told them to then a nation of british gun owners would simply shoot themselves in the feet

it's a thing we do every few years we call it "elecshuns"

Sounds like silly blind obedience on the part of the Brits. No offense.

I mean, you can think that elections solve everything, but a oppressive or tyrannical government is probably just going to rig them and fool the people into thinking they have a choice.

[Dr Hooch]

Sounds like silly blind obedience on the part of the Brits. No offense.


No offense where? I'm telling you this is a country of idiots.:thumb:

I mean, you can think that elections solve everything, but a oppressive or tyrannical government is probably just going to rig them and fool the people into thinking they have a choice.

they wouldn't even need to rig them. They'd need only promise to make Liberal Immigrant Gays Go Home.

[siva_chair]

No offense where? I'm telling you this is a country of idiots.:thumb:

Well thank the Great Spirit there are sensible people like you there that recognizes the idiocy. :thumb:

they wouldn't even need to rig them. They'd need only promise to make Liberal Immigrant Gays Go Home.

Lol.

Oh my they might spread the disease of gay to the UK's citizenry from whatever god awful country they originated from!

[Dr Hooch]

a man was reading the daily mail in a bar we were in the other night

we were somewhat rude

but he left the newspaper when he left (possibly because of us shouting out "LIBERAL IMMIGRANT GAYS GO HOME?" but possibly not)

and it really is as bad as we thought

so it stopped being funny

"LIBERAL IMMIGRANT GAYS STEAL JOBS FROM HARDWORKING VETERANS IN ORDER TO DRIVE HOUSE PRICES IN WHICHEVER DIRECTION IS CURRENTLY MOST INCONVINIENT TO YOU"

[siva_chair]

a man was reading the daily mail in a bar we were in the other night

we were somewhat rude

but he left the newspaper when he left (possibly because of us shouting out "LIBERAL IMMIGRANT GAYS GO HOME?" but possibly not)

and it really is as bad as we thought

so it stopped being funny

"LIBERAL IMMIGRANT GAYS STEAL JOBS FROM HARDWORKING VETERANS IN ORDER TO DRIVE HOUSE PRICES IN WHICHEVER DIRECTION IS CURRENTLY MOST INCONVINIENT TO YOU"

Lol.

Those damn homos when are they ever going to stop ruining everything!?!?

[mph4ever]

I mean, you can think that elections solve everything, but a oppressive or tyrannical government is probably just going to rig them and fool the people into thinking they have a choice.

that does sound familiar, i wonder why?

[siva_chair]

that does sound familiar, i wonder why?

That is the scary part, to be honest. It is all too familiar around the world.

[mph4ever]

That is the scary part, to be honest. It is all too familiar around the world.

uh huh

anyway, on a lighter note - http://ideadiez.com/english1.html

wow

[Already_Taken]

most common.. i didn't even know those words at the end, well except for "ohhhh". lol

[P13]

399 996: meinhof
that ain't no ****in inglish

[mph4ever]

i thought i was reading ulysses when i saw it first

[Futue te Ipsum]

Sounds like silly blind obedience on the part of the Brits. No offense.

I mean, you can think that elections solve everything, but a oppressive or tyrannical government is probably just going to rig them and fool the people into thinking they have a choice.we actually have decent media in this country though and there are so many better ways of dealing with tyrants than picking up a gun

[Dr Hooch]

we actually have decent media in this country though

:lol: what

[Shell]

Boomer Women — middle-aged children of the post-World War II generation

[Already_Taken]

:lol: what

um we do, we have several major media outlets from all different viewpoints and hundreds more less reputable sources, but nonetheless still sources.

[siva_chair]

we actually have decent media in this country though and there are so many better ways of dealing with tyrants than picking up a gun

Yeah America has decent media outlets too. We aren't constantly barraged by them like we are with some of the corporate media, but it is still there nonetheless.

And when your system is broken and ineffective, a gun is the best way of dealing with a tyrant's aggression.

[Smokey D]

And when your system is broken and ineffective, a gun is the best way of dealing with a tyrant's aggression.

Not really. Looking at the hundreds of civil wars the world has endured since the American revolution, picking up a gun is usually the one of the least effective ways of fixing the problem.

[Dr Hooch]

um we do, we have several major media outlets from all different viewpoints and hundreds more less reputable sources, but nonetheless still sources.

we have the internet, and so we can think ourselves lucky

[siva_chair]

Not really. Looking at the hundreds of civil wars the world has endured since the American revolution, picking up a gun is usually the one of the least effective ways of fixing the problem.

Only because other people who wish to impose further forms of tyranny tend to take their place.

Let me rephrase it then: A man who believes in liberty and backs it up with a gun is the most effective way of fixing the problem.

The point is if you don't have the tools to secure your liberties, they will be taken away.

[Dr Hooch]

Is it right to shoot **** up over the patriot act?

Rights aren't all revoked overnight.

[mph4ever]

Boomer Women — middle-aged children of the post-World War II generation

do you reckon they would like or dislike palin? i know she is hard to like but she might just attract this, as yet, undecided bloc of voters

[siva_chair]

Is it right to shoot **** up over the patriot act?

Rights aren't all revoked overnight.

I'd say you are justified in defending yourself with force if the government comes knocking at your door because of the patriot act.

Obviously we haven't succumbed to a complete police state, so shooting people over the patriot act is a bit irrational. A gun should be your last resort, but it shouldn't be a resort that is ever taken from you.

[siva_chair]

do you reckon they would like or dislike palin? i know she is hard to like but she might just attract this, as yet, undecided bloc of voters

Typical women, always undecided.

But seriously, I don't think you can say with any certainty because "boomer women" is a broad and very diverse segment of the population. You have everyone from flower children hippies that don't shave to ultra-conservative stuck up bitches with asses puckered up tighter than a snare drum.

[mph4ever]

Typical women, always undecided.

But seriously, I don't think you can say with any certainty because "boomer women" is a broad and very diverse segment of the population. You have everyone from flower children hippies that don't shave to ultra-conservative stuck up bitches with asses puckered up tighter than a snare drum.

palin might just appeal to them all in a motherly sort of way. some people vote for you because they don't like the other choices

[siva_chair]

palin might just appeal to them all in a motherly sort of way. some people vote for you because they don't like the other choices

Well they wouldn't be voting for her, they would be voting for McBain.

Speaking of McBain....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqcngB2k8Y

[mph4ever]

Well they wouldn't be voting for her, they would be voting for McBain.



same thing at the end of the day, thats why the choice of veep is so important

[Dimmu Burger]

I guy I work with is voting for McCain because he likes Palin. In fact he can't stand McCain. WTF?

[siva_chair]

I guy I work with is voting for McCain because he likes Palin. In fact he can't stand McCain. WTF?

He's an idiot. Sorry, js....

That or he may be planning an assassination plot who knows.

[Knifeboy]

If I wanted Palin as president I wouldn't hesitate to vote for mccain even if I hated him... I like those odds

[Reaganista]

you like the odds of your vote mattering?

[Knifeboy]

No, especially not if I was an american

[Reaganista]

then dont vote

[Knifeboy]

i'm not american

[Reaganista]

No,
then dont vote

[Knifeboy]

i was talking about the american election

obviously what i wrote didn't make sense because i'm a crazy foreigner.. duh

[Dr Hooch]

sarah palin

IQ 83?

[Reaganista]

dont vote in any election

[P13]

Sarah Palin

Intelligent design.

Vote Obama, for the sake of the children!

[Dr Hooch]

dont vote in any election

spoil your paper

apathy's alright but antipathy rules

[mph4ever]

it doesn't really matter what the obviously intelligent yanks on this board vote for

[Serenity]

OK, I have a major problem with my best friend/roommate that I need some help with.

We try to save electricity costs by heating our house effectively. Since our house is heated by gas, we tend to use that infrequently and instead use the common electrical heaters occasionally in some of the rooms (since gas is more expensive than electricity). Now, he has chastised me for running my heater on high; he reasons that running the heater on low uses less electricity. However, my problem with that is that if he runs his heater on low, it puts out less heat and thus stays on longer to accomplish it's temperature goal..whereas if I run mine on high for a short time, the room heats up more quickly and then the heater shuts off, using no power at all after that.

So, who's right in what uses less electricity?

[siva_chair]

OK, I have a major problem with my best friend/roommate that I need some help with.

We try to save electricity costs by heating our house effectively. Since our house is heated by gas, we tend to use that infrequently and instead use the common electrical heaters occasionally in some of the rooms (since gas is more expensive than electricity). Now, he has chastised me for running my heater on high; he reasons that running the heater on low uses less electricity. However, my problem with that is that if he runs his heater on low, it puts out less heat and thus stays on longer to accomplish it's temperature goal..whereas if I run mine on high for a short time, the room heats up more quickly and then the heater shuts off, using no power at all after that.

So, who's right in what uses less electricity?

Depends on how well your house is insulated.

[Serenity]

Not very. But the thing is, it shouldn't matter, because that variable is constant with both heaters; they are both in the same environment. So that shouldn't be a factor in which technique works more efficiently with regard to electricity usage.

[siva_chair]

Not very. But the thing is, it shouldn't matter, because that variable is constant with both heaters; they are both in the same environment. So that shouldn't be a factor in which technique works more efficiently with regard to electricity usage.

Well considering space heaters are 100% efficient, I'm not sure it matters significantly as long as you turn it back down once the room reaches a comfortable level.

I wouldn't put it on a circuit with other crap though, as most of them use most of a standard 15 Amp circuit, so running it full blast with other things on that circuit is just asking to overload a circuit and trip a breaker. If you have other crap on that particular circuit, I'd keep it on a lower setting.

[Serenity]

He doesn't; he puts it on low and so it runs the whole night (because it's never able to reach the set temperature). I put mine on high, so it shuts off after a relatively short time (because it reaches that temperature more quickly by virtue of being on high).

[siva_chair]

He doesn't; he puts it on low and so it runs the whole night (because it's never able to reach the set temperature). I put mine on high, so it shuts off after a relatively short time (because it reaches that temperature more quickly by virtue of being on high).

Does it turn back on after the temperature falls below a certain point?

[Serenity]

Does it turn back on after the temperature falls below a certain point?


Yes.

[siva_chair]

Then it probably makes no difference.

If you really wanted to settle it, just calculate it yourself. Do an experiment.

[Serenity]

Then it probably makes no difference.

If you really wanted to settle it, just calculate it yourself. Do an experiment.

I'm not sure how to calculate it; i.e., where to get my figures and how to set up the equation. Electrical mathematics admittedly isn't my forte.

[siva_chair]

I'm not sure how to calculate it; i.e., where to get my figures and how to set up the equation. Electrical mathematics admittedly isn't my forte.

Well, you'll have to find out how long your heater is on when it runs at full power.

Well find out what your kWh (kilowatt per hour, Watts running at/1000) and multiply it by whatever your kWh price is (I think it is usually around 20 cents most places??? Depends on where you live really).

Example:

Say your 1500W heater is on max for 1 hour in a 2 hour time-span.
Say his 1500W heater is on 50% for 2 of the 2 hours.

1500W=1.5kW

1.5 X (1)20=30 cents
(.5)1.5 X (2)20=30 cents

In this example I kept the numbers easy just to illustrate the point.

[Serenity]

Well, you'll have to find out how long your heater is on when it runs at full power.

Well find out what your kWh (kilowatt per hour, Watts running at/1000) and multiply it by whatever your kWh price is (I think it is usually around 20 cents most places??? Depends on where you live really).

Example:

Say your 1500W heater is on max for 1 hour in a 2 hour time-span.
Say his 1500W heater is on 50% for 2 of the 2 hours.

1500W=1.5kW

1.5 X (1)20=30 cents
(.5)1.5 X (2)20=30 cents

In this example I kept the numbers easy just to illustrate the point.

I see. Thanks.

[mph4ever]

I see. Thanks.

you may have to consider night time rates as opposed to day time as they differ here anyway

if i was you i would drop over to the engineering building

[Dr Hooch]

OK, I have a major problem with my best friend/roommate that I need some help with.

We try to save electricity costs by heating our house effectively. Since our house is heated by gas, we tend to use that infrequently and instead use the common electrical heaters occasionally in some of the rooms (since gas is more expensive than electricity). Now, he has chastised me for running my heater on high; he reasons that running the heater on low uses less electricity. However, my problem with that is that if he runs his heater on low, it puts out less heat and thus stays on longer to accomplish it's temperature goal..whereas if I run mine on high for a short time, the room heats up more quickly and then the heater shuts off, using no power at all after that.

So, who's right in what uses less electricity?

In an ideal world they would use exactly the same.

In the real world, chances are your way would be a little more efficient, since the heater has to heat itself and then the room; running it on "low" probably consists simply of only using some fraction of the heating elements in the machine. However, the whole machine would probably be brought up to temperature. I usually reason that the manufacturer will aim to make their machine most efficient running on 'max' since that's what 97% of people will use, but then i assume that engineers design these things and not businessmen.

It's unlikely to make any "real" difference in that you'd be better off with blankets. (or are you in some godforsaken snow covered part of those united states) Good man for seeing the practical benefits of sensible energy use though.

[808]

Is there a setting between high and low?

[Serenity]

In an ideal world they would use exactly the same.

In the real world, chances are your way would be a little more efficient, since the heater has to heat itself and then the room; running it on "low" probably consists simply of only using some fraction of the heating elements in the machine. However, the whole machine would probably be brought up to temperature. I usually reason that the manufacturer will aim to make their machine most efficient running on 'max' since that's what 97% of people will use, but then i assume that engineers design these things and not businessmen.

It's unlikely to make any "real" difference in that you'd be better off with blankets. (or are you in some godforsaken snow covered part of those united states) Good man for seeing the practical benefits of sensible energy use though.

Yea, I live in Wyoming, lol.

And yea, I'm pretty big on practical conservational use. Why not? It saves me money too; it benefits everyone then.

Is there a setting between high and low?

No, just high, low, and the thermostat. We both usually set our thermostats to the same temp (about 75 degrees Farenhiet).

[ashman]

Are your heaters those filament type heaters? If so, the higher the temperature, the higher the resistance, thus more electric is used to reach a set temperature.

It does rely on a lot of factors really. I wouldn't dare try to guess.

[Knifeboy]

so in conclusion, you should both stop whining

[Serenity]

Are your heaters those filament type heaters? If so, the higher the temperature, the higher the resistance, thus more electric is used to reach a set temperature.

It does rely on a lot of factors really. I wouldn't dare try to guess.

No, they are the quartz tube style heaters.

so in conclusion, you should both stop whining

I'm just trying to justify myself against his tirade of "oh you run yours on high so you cost us significantly more in electrical costs".

[ashman]

haha I live with a similar kinda nazi, he thinks the fridge and lights cost more electric than his PC, TV and the Dryer. He one of those god forsaken history students, so has this pretentiousness that he inherently knows more about everything than everyone in the known universe.

Irritates the hell out of me

[Iscariot]

has anyone else voted yet? i just mailed in my ballot today

[Serenity]

haha I live with a similar kinda nazi, he thinks the fridge and lights cost more electric than his PC, TV and the Dryer. He one of those god forsaken history students, so has this pretentiousness that he inherently knows more about everything than everyone in the known universe.

Irritates the hell out of meI know, right? This is the same kid that plays his XBOX damn near 24/7, which requires the TV, console, and stereo to be on. Also, he doesn't like to watch tv or play games in the dark, so a light has to be on as well. Yet he's chewing me out because having my heater on high instead of low supposedly uses too much more electricity, lol.

[Dr Hooch]

i helped my housemate vote

she voted for obama

who are you voting for?

[Serenity]

/needs to shop for health insurance; doesn't have time to vote.

/McCain supporter

Lol irony.


Anyway, my wisdom teeth are crumbling and I need them removed, but I don't have the 1200 per tooth (times the three that are crumbling) to pay for it right now. I'm trying to find some insurance that will pay for some or all of it but I don't kow where the **** to start. I've never had health insurance.

[Iscariot]

i helped my housemate vote

she voted for obama

who are you voting for?

i voted obama

[spitfirejunky]

I ordered an absentee ballot then set it on fire.

[Serenity]

I ordered an absentee ballot then set it on fire.

Well, aren't you a badass.

[spitfirejunky]

Well, aren't you a badass.

The shredder was full and I was feeling theatrical.

[Serenity]

Point stands, regardless of theatrics or lack thereof.

[Dr Hooch]

/needs to shop for health insurance; doesn't have time to vote.

/McCain supporter

Lol irony.


Anyway, my wisdom teeth are crumbling and I need them removed, but I don't have the 1200 per tooth (times the three that are crumbling) to pay for it right now. I'm trying to find some insurance that will pay for some or all of it but I don't kow where the **** to start. I've never had health insurance.

insurance doesn't work when you already need the work doing

[Serenity]

insurance doesn't work when you already need the work doing

Oh.

Well, that ****ing sucks. Any loopholes that you or anyone know of?

(It's painful, I need the **** done now)

[Iskandar]

I voted last week...

For a party, not a person.

[Smokey D]

Only because other people who wish to impose further forms of tyranny tend to take their place.

Let me rephrase it then: A man who believes in liberty and backs it up with a gun is the most effective way of fixing the problem.

Well I assume if it has reached the point that you need to pick up your gun in the first place then people are having disagreements on how to get **** done.

Picking up your gun is only the most effective way to fix the problem if everyone agrees with you. The moment there's disagreement, a gun is not very helpful at all.

The point is if you don't have the tools to secure your liberties, they will be taken away.

Not really true at all.

Especially if you have other more effective means to secure them.

[siva_chair]

Well I assume if it has reached the point that you need to pick up your gun in the first place then people are having disagreements on how to get **** done.

Or that the masses have been disenfranchised by the system and those in power have seized and secured it through fraud and coercion.

I still don't see how this means people should be stripped of their right to arms.

Picking up your gun is only the most effective way to fix the problem if everyone agrees with you. The moment there's disagreement, a gun is not very helpful at all.

No, everyone does not have to agree with you. You just need enough people to become a threat to the oppressor.

It is the most effective form of self-defense against aggressors, be they an angry mob, or Gestapo like police. It is the last line of self-defense when the courts no longer work and they come to take you and your property away.

Not really true at all.

Especially if you have other more effective means to secure them.

I didn't say a gun was the only tool to secure liberty.

Also, there is no garauntee that these other effective means will stay effective in the hands of a tyrant. They are well known for circumventing legislative checks against their power, and they may try but they can't circumvent people fighting for their lives with arms. If a population allows the state to strip them of their arms, then the population is being irresponsible.

[Smokey D]

Or that the masses have been disenfranchised by the system and those in power have seized and secured it through fraud and coercion.

I still don't see how this means people should be stripped of their right to arms.

Yeah I'd call that a disagreement.

No, everyone does not have to agree with you. You just need enough people to become a threat to the oppressor.

No, you need enough people not to disagree with you that they won't want to shoot you. Unfortunately, if it's gotten to the point where one group feels they need to pick up a gun it's usually gotten to the point where another group is willing to shoot that first one.


It is the most effective form of self-defense against aggressors, be they an angry mob, or Gestapo like police. It is the last line of self-defense when the courts no longer work and they come to take you and your property away.

No, the most effective form of self defense is a robust constitution.

I'll give that it might be your last line of defence but it's not very effective.


Also, there is no garauntee that these other effective means will stay effective in the hands of a tyrant. They are well known for circumventing legislative checks against their power, and they may try but they can't circumvent people fighting for their lives with arms. If a population allows the state to strip them of their arms, then the population is being irresponsible.

Guns don't guarantee anything either, though.

[siva_chair]

Yeah I'd call that a disagreement.

Well no kidding, it's a disagreement between the ruling power and those subject to that ruling power. When those being subject to that ruling power agree with one another they don't want to be ruled as such anymore.....you see where I'm getting at here.

No, you need enough people not to disagree with you that they won't want to shoot you. Unfortunately, if it's gotten to the point where one group feels they need to pick up a gun it's usually gotten to the point where another group is willing to shoot that first one.

Of course that is what happens in an armed revolution.

A people with no guns and no legislative recourse will have no way of overthrowing the yoke of oppression. This is my point and this is why the right to arms should never be taken away. It is a safegaurd.

No, the most effective form of self defense is a robust constitution.

I agree, but when said constitution is disregarded it no longer serves as an effective means of self defense, then the threat of violent force becomes a necessary check against oppression.

I'll give that it might be your last line of defence but it's not very effective.

I disagree. Violent revolution can be very effective.

While it is true that oftentimes violent revolutions only eat their young, it is not universal. And even then, it isn't often due to arms being ineffective per se, it is due to squabbling for power in the vaccuum left after a ruling power is disposed of.


Guns don't guarantee anything either, though.

They gaurantee the threat of force. The violent backlash of an armed population is a very big check against government.

[Dr Hooch]

Oh.

Well, that ****ing sucks. Any loopholes that you or anyone know of?

(It's painful, I need the **** done now)

british citizenship






ohpwnt

[siva_chair]

british citizenship

ohpwnt

Wait aren't the British known for their bad teeth......?
:p

[Serenity]

british citizenship






ohpwnt

My father, grandfather, and grandmother are all Irish citizens, does that count? lol

My grandfather actually holds dual citizenship (Ireland, Scotland/U.K.).

I wonder if that would help me at all, haha.

[Der Übermensch]

Well if you wanted to apply for citizenship in Ireland, I'm sure it would be much easier for you because of that.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Irish citizenship is probably the easiest in the world to get. If you wanna wait like 6 months for that and then pay to fly to Ireland, you will get the free surgery you seek.

[Dr Hooch]

Wait aren't the British known for their bad teeth......?
:p

Our dentists don't tend to encourage drawn out, painful cosmetic work so much as yours, perhaps because they have no incentive to do so?

Tell you the truth ireland's your better bet brother, i'm on dental insurance here because people become doctors to help people and become dentists to get rich.

[siva_chair]

Our dentists don't tend to encourage drawn out, painful cosmetic work so much as yours, perhaps because they have no incentive to do so?

True. Or it could be all that spotted dick and fitless **** you guys eat.... :p

But truthfully, dentists don't make much off of cosmetic work. That tends to be the realm of orthodontists.

[Iscariot]

what better incentive is there than to not have a country full of people with ugly mouths

[Dr Hooch]

beauty is only skin deep

[hismajestythepope]

brains turn me on

[siva_chair]

beauty is only skin deep

But ugly is to the core.

[Serenity]

Seriously? My application for Irish citizenship would be made easier because of my family? Also, what's this noise about getting it done for free there?

[Iskandar]

Irish citizenship is easy to get because no one in their right mind would ever want to be Irish.

[Serenity]

Irish citizenship is easy to get because no one in their right mind would ever want to be Irish.

Hey now.

[McP3000]

Irish citizenship is easy to get because no one in their right mind would ever want to be Irish.
aren't the Irish technically experiencing a decrease in population?

[Smokey D]

They were for like 2 centuries but since the 1990s it's been going up again.

[Serenity]

That's funny, because neither my father nor my grandparents have had anything negative to say about the country...at least, anything they deemed worthy of telling me now that they're in America.

[Smokey D]

Until pretty recently it was chronically plagued by unemployment, mismanagement, political and religious violence etc. During the period of migration the Irish standard of living and ability of ordinary people to change it compared to the United States was pretty low.

[Aaron]

Hey Smokey.

[Iscariot]

Until pretty recently it was chronically plagued by unemployment, mismanagement, political and religious violence etc. During the period of migration the Irish standard of living and ability of ordinary people to change it compared to the United States was pretty low.

a friend of mine spent a summer in ireland a couple of years back with his aunt and the only unhappiness or civil unrest he experienced was when he sat down in a protestant bar and told the guy sitting next to him that he was catholic

from what he experienced most average people are perfectly content over there

although i'm sure it helps greatly that you can walk down the street with a beer mug at 7 in the morning and tap all of the empty kegs that the bars set out front at the end of the night and see if there's anything left in them to salvage for breakfast

[Smokey D]

Well yeah Ireland's been riding a wave for the last 15 years.

[Dave de Sylvia]

not anymore

[McP3000]

riding on the wind

[JohnXDoe]

i didn't think this warranted a new thread as its been discussed in this forum (or the topic of pr0n and obscenity) before. But Max Hardcore (Paul Little) was sentenced recently to four years in prison in Florida for obscenity. apparently the judge felt scenes of sexual "humiliation" is worthy of prison, even if pissing and vomit sex (girls practicing bulimia on Max's dick) might be arguable

http://katzjustice.com/underdog/archives/1378-Max-Hardcore-sentenced-for-obscenity-conviction..html

thats an article found on a defense attorney website. i'm sure a google search will come up with more, however

Max's site has also been "forfeited" to the government

http://www.maxhardcore.com/

and put on "probation" (the business itself) for 5 years after Max's release

so much for freedom of expression among adults in the land of the....free


just a little FYI for those interested in such things

[Dave de Sylvia]

nobody normal is interested in such things

[Der Übermensch]

nobody normal is interested in such things

Doesn't change the fact those abnormal people are perfectly entitled to their ****ed up weird *** pr0n.

[JohnXDoe]

nobody normal is interested in such things
nobody "normal" is interested in freedom of sexual expression among adults who choose to express themselves in such a manner? and their rights to purchase material of such a manner to be viewed in the privacy of their own homes? or to produce such material as a way to make a living for themselves without government intrusion?

adult people?

ok then

love the gay marriage avi, btw....Britney Diva

[Knifeboy]

No wonder he got sentenced... Max Hardcore is pretty much the definition of obscenity

not that I'm in favour of obscenity laws

[JohnXDoe]

to be perfectly clear, if in a staged and fictional setting, slapping a girl, spitting on a girl, pissing in her mouth, and treating her like a rag is considered obscene, they need to adjust the definition of obscene

lets not forget, girls get slapped, peed on and in, and treated carelessly in pr0n all the time. but because Hardcore is so freakish about it he goes to prison. i'm not defending his work, as they say. but his right to do it

these girls are grown up. they are getting paid. you can say some have been victims all their lives, because they probably were molested or something when they were young. most people in pr0n started having sex at ages that are considered "illegal." and many were molested. i dated a girl who was molested. i bet many of you have. or some. she was a great girl, and also very oversexed. she used to bring pr0n to my house. and she liked it just like that. to her, that was sex. and a lot of the time it is. and if you think its not, your girlfriend might be fuking someone else. so watch out

Max takes regular sex a step further. what is regular sex? well the act of penetration. or things sexual in general sometimes. when goddamn genitals are involved. that is sex. he humiliates, he degrades, he defiles. and its 100% act. do the girls sometimes dislike it? yeah. but they know they are going to dislike it. he never hired anyone who he didn't give a video and say "go home and watch this for a week. if you still want to work for me come back and let me know." and they came back. and back....most of the time :p

he never paid more then others. nothing special offered these girls. which the judge chooses to see as so called "victims" of "humiliation." well what if during the act of sex they enjoy humiliation? i guess society and morality laws should dictate that

if you say its illegal to depict it because its illegal to do it, which is what they are saying, its wrong. Max Hardcore was brought up on charges before this in L.A. because they said his dressing of girls like little girls (although extremely cartoonish) and having them talk like little girls was "child pr0n." as in the same as if it WERE child pr0n

that is kind of beyond what we should be doing imo. i'm not going to say its stupid to be against it. or an argument can't be made against it. i'm just saying when i weigh the differences between how "harmful" or "obscene" it may or may not be ii come down on the side of it its a "not be"

if a girl blows chunks on Max's dick for all the world to see, she does the same in private and in the toilet. i guarantee. thats reality. if she chooses to do that before the camera with him and they want to make a living doing it for over 18 people to see, that is their business. i've seen the same and worse pr0n. scat is disgusting. and S&M / Humiliation pr0n is all over. bestiality. but the government will decide where to draw the line in something that is most personal to a human being. what they can and cannot do with their own bodies sexually with another human being. and in this case in a controlled fictional environment. i mean his actresses defend him. but i guess they are just the poor victims here? they don't know any better....

i forgot :'(

thanks US government for saving our souls. so noble....

[Dave de Sylvia]

nobody "normal" is interested in freedom of sexual expression among adults who choose to express themselves in such a manner? and their rights to purchase material of such a manner to be viewed in the privacy of their own homes? or to produce such material as a way to make a living for themselves without government intrusion?

adult people?

ok then

love the gay marriage avi, btw....Britney Diva
no

nobody normal is interested in weirdo porn

wtf

[Knifeboy]

"ob⋅scene   [uhb-seen] Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. offensive to morality or decency; indecent; depraved: obscene language.
2. causing uncontrolled sexual desire.
3. abominable; disgusting; repulsive"

I'm guessing that for the vast majority, Max Hardcores movies fit all three of those :p

[JohnXDoe]

no

nobody normal is interested in weirdo porn

wtf
lots of things aren't "normal." i'm sure some things you may enjoy or support might be deemed not "normal" by many. should those things be against the law, too? should the government have the right to tell you what to do with your own body and how to behave? do you need big brother watching over you and protecting you from sex?

i don't

this isn't about being interested in weird animal photographs. its about the DOJ having moralistic politically motivated prosecutors infringing on the rights of private citizens who are over 18 to conduct themselves as they see fit SEXUALLY in a free society amongst themselves

just FYI another por.nographer, one far more mainstream, is also being put on trial. for a female ejaculation video and one centered around milk enemas. this isn't about pr0n or anything being "weird." its about the rights of every american to have intimate sexual freedom as they see fit. pornographic or not. its not that Max is much different then anybody else, he is just an easy target for those who if given the opportunity would like to tell us ALL how to behave and act according to their own moral code

when Bush first took office and since he has been fond of saying from time to time "the days of 'it feels good do it' are over. this is a new time in america"

quote:

During the more than half century of my life, we have seen an unprecedented decay in our American culture, a decay that has eroded the foundations of our collective values and moral standards of conduct.

and

The changing culture has blurred the sharp contrast between right and wrong and created a new standard of conduct: 'If it feels good, do it.'

what?

how the hell does he get to say how anyone should live or not live? and why you think anyone else should decide that for you, me, or anybody is beyond
reason imo
"ob⋅scene   [uhb-seen] Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. offensive to morality or decency; indecent; depraved: obscene language.
2. causing uncontrolled sexual desire.
3. abominable; disgusting; repulsive"

I'm guessing that for the vast majority, Max Hardcores movies fit all three of those :p
congratulations you just defined the sexual habits of most of america according to many who go to church, are judgmental, and who are generally prudish about sex. i really don't see how a legal line gets drawn at what Max does and especially at what the other guy (John Stagliano) i mentioned above does. who makes mainstream pr0n. this is a common crusade here in america by conservatives in Bush's DOJ who seek to legislate sexual morality through the courts. much of Europe doesn't have a problem with this sort of thing. i would think most free thinking societies don't

also this from the article i posted:

"Do not think for a moment that obscenity prosecutions will be limited only to such over-the-edge videos as those from Extreme Associates and Max Hardcore, both having branded themselves for rough and often degrading sex. Prosecutors focus on such extreme sexual material to avoid acquittals from jurors seeing images found on hotel pay-per-view, and to fly under the radar of a larger public outcry against such prosecutions, as prosecutors move closer and closer to prosecute films that depict sex that is little different than the activities of millions of married couples."

[Reaganista]

u think milk enemas are normal that's how weird you are

[JohnXDoe]

they are quite refreshing, yes :)

[Hababi]

Dropper/other language people, you may find this link useful:
http://fsi-language-courses.com/default.aspx

It has some interesting languages that I hadn't found resources for before. I'm sticking to the (Mandarin) Chinese section though.

[808]

Thanks for the link.

[Reaganista]

zerokewl y u postin on 2 diff names now

[Iskandar]

Dropper/other language people, you may find this link useful:
http://fsi-language-courses.com/default.aspx

It has some interesting languages that I hadn't found resources for before. I'm sticking to the (Mandarin) Chinese section though.Holy crap, you're back.

[beso negro]

JohnXDoe is right this is a sad day

Dropper/other language people, you may find this link useful:
http://fsi-language-courses.com/default.aspx

nice find steve

[Reaganista]

he post on serentiy and on habaibi i dk y he donta just post zerkowle

[Iscariot]

he can't use zerokewl anymore because he was shamed after this incident

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/kingsolomon/zero9nr.jpg

[mph4ever]

a friend of mine spent a summer in ireland a couple of years back with his aunt and the only unhappiness or civil unrest he experienced was when he sat down in a protestant bar and told the guy sitting next to him that he was catholic

thats britain

from what he experienced most average people are perfectly content over there

in northern ireland?

although i'm sure it helps greatly that you can walk down the street with a beer mug at 7 in the morning and tap all of the empty kegs that the bars set out front at the end of the night and see if there's anything left in them to salvage for breakfast
we used to rob the kegs. i spent two days in a ditch once, just me, my mate, and a keg of lager

[Mr. Ron]

oh wow palin is revolting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4LjsfWbZLA

[EarthLadenFingers]

sup sup

[siva_chair]

he can't use zerokewl anymore because he was shamed after this incident

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/kingsolomon/zero9nr.jpg

lol

[Iscariot]

i think i just found the perfect girl for steve

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/w4m/893791308.html

:')

[ridethelib]

he can't use zerokewl anymore because he was shamed after this incident

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/kingsolomon/zero9nr.jpg

That. Is. Awesome.

I read alot of hababi's nonsense during my lurking days and that story just makes it all so ironic

[Dave de Sylvia]

lol

[Mr. Ron]

he can't use zerokewl anymore because he was shamed after this incident

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/kingsolomon/zero9nr.jpg

see? every homophobe is a closet gay.

[Iskandar]

We need the picture of him in the seventh grade with the banana, sitting in front of the "JESUS IS AWESOME" poster.

[pppoe]

I'm sure Lite Fantastic still has that one.

[Mr. Ron]

We need the picture of him in the seventh grade with the banana, sitting in front of the "JESUS IS AWESOME" poster.

I have that one on my old computer. I'll upload it tonight. I have one of him looking all "Terminator" in some black shades as well.





Oh and I guess some neo-nazi group was planning to kill Obama.

[pppoe]

Took long enough.

[Dr Hooch]

Oh and I guess some neo-nazi group was planning to kill Obama.

they weren't trying very hard

someone should explain to them that if you're planning a 'spree' then it helps to plan to get the high profile target first

[Reaganista]

see? every homophobe is a closet gay
ur a phobe sometimes js

[Reaganista]

i think i just found the perfect girl for steve

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/w4m/893791308.html

:')

he's into africans i thought

[Iskandar]

No, Asians.

[Iscariot]

I love in peace and share the warmness world with my love one and my family.

i can't believe we give these people degrees

i hope she doesn't speak english as poorly as she types it

[Reaganista]

im have degree 2

[beso negro]

so tway's convinced me to go to lawl school after my masters in computer engineering

[Iskandar]

I see you've chosen to study the most boring crap ever.

Well, except for finance.

[beso negro]

no there's enough math/physics/programming to keep me interested.

IT degrees are by far the most dry

[Iskandar]

no there's enough math/physics/programming to keep me interested.Eh, I find it boring. I'm not mathematically inclined.
IT degrees are by far the most dryYou may be on to something.

[EarthLadenFingers]

anyone vote yet?

I just did today, and it took longer than I thought it would, I can't imagine what election day is gonna be like

[Iscariot]

i voted about a week ago

i mailed in my ballot to avoid the lines

[thedeadwalk!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A5WcqSY8VA

:lol:

[EarthLadenFingers]

that video is almost as old as mccain

[thedeadwalk!]

Well, I guess I'm new to this series of tubes then.

[808]

i voted about a week ago

i mailed in my ballot to avoid the lines

Let us hope it gets there.

[Permanent Solution]

i voted about a week ago

i mailed in my ballot to avoid the lines

me2

except i mailed it in because i don't live in the state i'm voting in ^_^

[808]

Traitor.

[sweboy]

"Sometimes these dollars they go to projects having little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France. I kid you not!" - Sarah Palin

How the hell is this women running for vice president of one of the most powerful nations on earth?

[gregulus]

"Sometimes these dollars they go to projects having little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France. I kid you not!" - Sarah Palin

How the hell is this women running for vice president of one of the most powerful nations on earth?

Don't tell her that most of science really isn't being done for the "public good."

At least not directly.

[Reaganista]

dont kid urself wit that one of the most powerful nations on earth nonsense the us is still the most powerful nation in the history of earth

ps by a lot

[McP3000]

123 tway

[Iskandar]

No way, the Great Khanate was!

[ridethelib]

No way, the Great Khanate was!

Sub-Saharan/South Africa tbh.

They got the world by the throat with their AIDS and what not.

If any one country were to anger that region of Africa, they could have that country wholly infected with AIDS over night.

I'm not just sure about this, I'm HIV+.

[Iskandar]

Go away.

[ridethelib]

Damn.

[Sk0rpi0n]

The greatest nation in the history of Earth is Pedestria. If you've ever walked you are a citizen of this great nation.

So fellow Pedestrians, rejoice for you are part of something special!

Also 100th post FTW.

[McP3000]

jaywalker

[mph4ever]

a year, a whole year, man time flies

[Mr. Ron]

Ok, so I just voted.

At least I think I did. Do any of you use those voting booths where you have to pull the lever to the right to close the curtain? And have to push a little lever down above the candidate's name to vote for them?

My mom said that the lever stays down until you exit the booth, but mine wouldn't stay down...so the machine either is different or broken and my vote didn't count...

[siva_chair]

Mine was a strange touch-screen fold-out electronic device. We didn't have any curtains. I felt so exposed.

That and I was wearing my "Don't Steal: The Government Hates Competition" shirt so all these old people were staring at me. One really cool old dude was all sorts of excited about it and complemented me on it. The others just grumbled under their breath.

[Mr. Ron]

I think its pretty inefficient to have multiple forms of voting across the country...just have a simple paper form where you check off who you want, put it in an envelope and hand it to the polling officials.

[Knifeboy]

One thing I find really weird, is that they're afraid that there'll be chaos just because the voter turnout will be more than 50%... ... Hah. That's very unimpressive

[Mr. Ron]

well datz amurrika

[mph4ever]

well datz amurrika


the greatest show on earth

[siva_chair]

I guess so, seeing how everyone seems to import our television shows and movies all the time.

[Knifeboy]

Most countries export Tv-shows to the rest of the world (excluding america because you got no taste)

[Illmatic]

he can't use zerokewl anymore because he was shamed after this incident

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/kingsolomon/zero9nr.jpg

no ****ing way

[Knifeboy]

someone hacked his account i'm pretty sure

[Already_Taken]

hAHAHAHAHA rofl

[Mister_Che]

Is that the image of the post where he admits he's gay? How long ago was that?

[mattspurplepen]

hahahahaha that **** is so priceless.
does that guy still post here?

[Mister_Che]

He was Hababi.

[Dr Hooch]

Is that the image of the post where he admits he's gay? How long ago was that?

today, at 2:27

[Mister_Che]

Ah, I couldn't see it, blocked at work.

[Knifeboy]

today, at 2:27

hehehehehe

[mph4ever]

it was a couple of weeks ago that it was posted. zero is to be missed but i do sense that maybe he is lurking here somewhere as someone else, maybe someone peaceful and serene, if you know what i mean

and america exports to every other country, very few countries export tv like america