PNWI Community Thread version 3.0 (KEEP REFRIGERATED AT ALL TIMES)

[Der Übermensch]

old news but "the more realistic the art the better it is" became pretty uninteresting after the invention of the camera

Thats why Surrealism was so great.

[Knifeboy]

old news but "the more realistic the art the better it is" became pretty uninteresting after the invention of the camera

That would be true if it wasn't for hyperrealism

[1338 h4x0r]

Surrender or you'll die.

"I need a vacation."

[Radiobass81]

Did anyone get to see the shirt the king of Spain gave to Chavez yesterday? HILARIOUS.

Remember the 'Oh, just shut up' comment he gave Chavez a few months ago? Well, yesterday they were meeting, and proving that their relationship wasn't harmed, and the king jokingly gave Chavez a shirt with a picture of them, and with a caption of the king saying 'shut up'.

[1338 h4x0r]

hahahaha

[mph4ever]

is it me or do canadians know more about weed and beer than others around here. its a feeling i get from some other boards too, oh and ice hockey

[dei]

That's all they know.

[guitrguy]

mph just doesn't know anything about weed or beer.

[mph4ever]

mph just doesn't know anything about weed or beer.

or damaged liver either

[mph4ever]

btw, any of you in the quake area or nearby, i hope you are ok

[guitrguy]

or damaged liver either

yeah because drinking a lot of alcohol makes you educated on beer.

[Smokey D]

That would be true if it wasn't for hyperrealism

All of those super- hyper- magic- realisms were motivated by the introduction of the camera and at the same time explore other aspects of painting (Richard Estes was all about constructing elaborate perspective based on reflections and the like). I wouldn't go as far to say the camera obsoletes realism, but it does open considerable new areas of interest.

[Iscariot]

hi politics forum

i am injured

[1338 h4x0r]

now Sieg Heiling: Helloween - Twilight of the Gods

I <3 this song

[Dr Hooch]

hi politics forum

i am injured

did you get shot?

[Iscariot]

no i was walking through the yard trying to get my dog to stop chewing his flea bite and i stepped in a hole and incurred a severe sprain

[mph4ever]

yeah because drinking a lot of alcohol makes you educated on beer.

no it doesn't, but owning a pub, wine shop and off license does so stfu

[Smokey D]

Lol, what. You implied Canadians know a lot about drugs and alcohol because of heavy consumption. He said that there were other reasons to know a lot. It had nothing to do with what you know.

[mph4ever]

you may have missed the context, humour is difficult when the lines are 8 hours apart

[Smokey D]

Maybe.

Carry on. But with <3

[mph4ever]

only ever with <3

[1338 h4x0r]

Carry on. But with \:angry:

[Smokey D]

Good Morning Star Shine.
The Earth Says Hello.

[1338 h4x0r]

Ich frage euch:

Wollt ihr den kybernetischen Krieg?

\:angry: \:angry: \:angry: \:angry:

[Smokey D]

Quit changing fonts.

[1338 h4x0r]

Ich frage euch:

Wollt ihr den kybernetischen Krieg?

\:angry: \:angry: \:angry: \:angry:

[Smokey D]

And speaking in foreign languages.

[1338 h4x0r]

I ask you:

Do you want cybernetic war?

\:angry: \:angry: \:angry: \:angry:

[Smokey D]

Not really. Just <3.

[1338 h4x0r]

Cowering in the depth below amongst the other vermin
Rats in the underground, breed and infest, the disease it grows
Parasitic guised as folk
You bear the mask of the clown
Hide, in your fantasy world
Obsessed with foolish dreams
Whoring all though dear
You are the pests in the fields
Soon our kingdom shall come
And all your treachery undone
Mongrels, wretched filth be ashamed
Horde of **** and blood of apes
These sounds of hate and darkness
Meant for the pure, not for the meek
Hide, in your fantasy world
Obsessed with foolish dreams
Whoring all though dear
You are the pests in the fields
Soon our kingdom shall come
And all your treachery undone
Cower, you bear the mark of the false
Branded forevermore traitor
Beneath Black Metal
You shall crawl
Cower beneath the veil of darkness
Falsify, corrupt our blood
Relish every fleeting moment
For we are wolves (while) you are sheep
For we are wolves ... You are sheep[/color]

[gregulus]

"I call anything done to keep an informant out of the courtroom, 'self-defense.'"

Silly animal rights activists.

[Der Übermensch]

huh?

[gregulus]

huh?

Some animal rights activist named Peter Young was indicted a couple of years ago because him and a friend drove around the mid-west and let a bunch of mink out of mink farms. His friend that was with him testified against him for a lesser sentence, and Peter Young proceeded to make that remark. I just happen to find it incredibly stupid.

[Der Übermensch]

did young try to kneecap the other guy or something?

[guitrguy]

♥♥♥

[Akira]

Hahaha. The latest Rasmussen poll shows Begich ahead of Steven by nine in Alaska, 50% to 41%. The funny part? That poll was taken before Stevens was indicted.

Looks like the Democrats are picking up Alaska this fall.

[guitrguy]

What was he indicted for?

/not familiar with Alaskan politics

[1338 h4x0r]

Nun, Roboter, steht auf, und Sturm brich los!

\:angry: \:angry: \:angry: \:angry:

[Mr. Ron]

good morning

:)

[1338 h4x0r]

sup

where's your avatar from

[guitrguy]

my groin still hurts

[Mr. Ron]

sup

where's your avatar from

Boyd Rice's website


my groin still hurts

From?

[Hababi]

Hahaha. The latest Rasmussen poll shows Begich ahead of Steven by nine in Alaska, 50% to 41%. The funny part? That poll was taken before Stevens was indicted.

Looks like the Democrats are picking up Alaska this fall.

Every republican not named Ted Stevens is currently urging Stevens to step aside and let someone else run. Just as they want Don Young to go down.

That way they can concentrate on William Cold Cash Jefferson, gangsta #1.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ulcGldJlKiA

If you haven't read the election threads today, check out Ludacris' new rap.

[1338 h4x0r]

Boyd Rice's website

oh yeah

he's cool

the combination of mathematical operator and fascist ideology is appealing

Every republican not named Ted Stevens is currently urging Stevens to step aside and let someone else run. Just as they want Don Young to go down.

That way they can concentrate on William Cold Cash Jefferson, gangsta #1.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ulcGldJlKiA

If you haven't read the election threads today, check out Ludacris' new rap.

ITT: Zero doesn't hate them there swamp-runnin' porch monkeys.

[Akira]

What was he indicted for?

/not familiar with Alaskan politics

Failure to disclose $250,000 of home improvements given to him by an oil company.

[Hababi]

Failure to disclose $250,000 of home improvements given to him by an oil company.

Many Republicans (including McCain) have been wanting to get rid of Stevens for a while. The guy is simply outrageous.

[gregulus]

did young try to kneecap the other guy or something?

No, but apparently he thinks it would be justified.

[Smokey D]

Did he say that in court?

That'd be so awesome.

[Iskandar]

And speaking in foreign languages.Comme ça va?

[Smokey D]

Like it goes?

[Iskandar]

Like it goes?It's idiomatic for "how are you?"

If I remember it correctly from my grade school days.

[Smokey D]

(Comment) ça va?

I dunno about idiomatic, but that's the phrase generally.

[Iskandar]

I thought it was comme but I was in like grade 1 so I probably got it wrong.

I kind of wish I'd stuck through with French until grade 12 but that was before I knew I was good at that sort of thing.

[Hababi]

Guz bi rishit

[Smokey D]

Comme is like or as. Comment is how.

I need to improve my French, but I was browsing the net yesterday and noticed I can still make my way through French language sites reasonably well.

[gregulus]

Did he say that in court?

That'd be so awesome.

I'm not sure. As far as I know he didn't do a god damn thing to the guy. But apparently he's ready for next time.

[Smokey D]

That's pretty funny.

Does he think he'll be in a better legal position if he assaults and/or kills a guy?

[Iskandar]

guz Bi Ripoopما ذالك الشخص؟

[Smokey D]

Gice, quit it.

[Hababi]

每一块

[Iskandar]

أ ليس كذالك يا صديقي؟

[1338 h4x0r]

Skit ner dig, allihopa!

[Iskandar]

لا أفهمك

[Der Übermensch]

Blaß mir einen, schweinhund!

[Iskandar]

blaß Mir Einen, Schweinhund!
كس أمك يا ابن الزانية

[Akira]

ما ذالك الشخص؟

I totally started an Arabic class Monday.

[1338 h4x0r]

sadiq!

[Der Übermensch]

كس أمك يا ابن الزانية

Wie müßen die Araber ausrotten!

[Hababi]

I totally started an Arabic class Monday.

My Cantonese class was cancelled :(

[1338 h4x0r]

I just realized something

One day, the last few humans on Earth will beg for death

It's going to be cool

[Iskandar]

i Totally Started An Arabic Class Monday.
:):)

[Akira]

:):)

سنتكلم بالعربية على هذا الساحة عامة

What'd you say about my mother?


No, but seriously, it's pretty cool. It's just a really basic functional Arabic class. Hardly comprehensive, but I figure a decent intro.

[Iskandar]

What'd you say about my mother?


No, but seriously, it's pretty cool. It's just a really basic functional Arabic class. Hardly comprehensive, but I figure a decent intro.Cool.

What I was trying to say was "we will talk in Arabic on this forum." I made mistakes though. If you want to insult someone's mother, say كس أمك .

[Mr. Ron]

I just realized something

One day, the last few humans on Earth will beg for death

It's going to be cool

Actually the other day while I was waiting for a bus in the city I got to thinking. After taking in my surroundings, everything seemed so busy and established. All the buildings, electronics, vehicles, signs, people buzzing about, bikes, lights and so on. One day all of these things are going to be gone, and that gives me a weird feeling. One day theres going to be a field where my house is and no one will know I existed. :eek:

[Akira]

Cool.

What I was trying to say was "we will talk in Arabic on this forum." I made mistakes though. If you want to insult someone's mother, say كس أمك .

Haha.

This class is actually all transliterated, because learning to read and write Arabic would probably take the entire length of the course. :p

[1338 h4x0r]

Actually the other day while I was waiting for a bus in the city I got to thinking. After taking in my surroundings, everything seemed so busy and established. All the buildings, electronics, vehicles, signs, people buzzing about, bikes, lights and so on. One day all of these things are going to be gone, and that gives me a weird feeling. One day theres going to be a field where my house is and no one will know I existed. :eek:

Most ... of these things will be gone :)

[Mr. Ron]

And cockroaches will rule.

[Iskandar]

Haha.

This class is actually all transliterated, because learning to read and write Arabic would probably take the entire length of the course. :pNo it wouldn't. Arabic uses an alphabet and the spelling is extremely regular.

[Knifeboy]

And cockroaches will rule.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-6cIy_s8pQ more like flowerbeetles will rule the world

[Mr. Ron]

Elen sila lumenn omentilmo



:(

[Akira]

No it wouldn't. Arabic uses an alphabet and the spelling is extremely regular.

It's only a seven lesson course.

The course is really only meant to give basic conversation skills.

[Iskandar]

It's only a seven lesson course.

The course is really only meant to give basic conversation skills.Ohhh.

Well, you should learn to read and write anyway on your own time.
My Cantonese class was cancelled Thought you were learning Mandarin.

[Mr. Ron]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-6cIy_s8pQ more like flowerbeetles will rule the world

GIANT, mutant flowerbeetles.

[1338 h4x0r]

Elen sila lumenn omentilmo



:(

Looks Finno-Ugric, but fake. Quenya I take it?

[Iskandar]

Looks Finno-Ugric, but fake. Quenya I take it?Yes.

Fake Finnish.

[Mr. Ron]

Looks Finno-Ugric, but fake. Quenya I take it?

M'yeah.

[Iskandar]

Wakka jawakka.

[Mr. Ron]

What exactly is Ugric?

[Iskandar]

What exactly is Ugric?Older term for Hungarian.

Actually, the term "Finno-Ugric" is now obsolete. "Uralic" is preferred, at least in scholarly sources.

[1338 h4x0r]

No idea tbh

EDIT - disregard this post

[Iskandar]

The term was used when people knew the Finnic peoples (from Scandinavia and the Baltic) were related to the Hungarians, but they didn't know there was a third group, Samoyedic. So now they're called the Uralic peoples, because the Ural Mountains are thought to be their original homeland.

[Mr. Ron]

Alex, why are you so interested in languages? Just curious.

[Iskandar]

Alex, why are you so interested in languages? Just curious.It goes along with my interest in people.:)

[Mr. Ron]

You would be very interested in me.

[Smokey D]

It goes along with my interest in people.

Learning the formalities of language doesn't really teach you that much about people, to be honest.

[Mr. Ron]

Most people are disgusting morons anyways. :>


Except you guys. <3333

[Radiobass81]

Learning the formalities of language doesn't really teach you that much about people, to be honest.

<3.

To get accepted into the Masters progam I want, I need 6 creds of French, 6 creds of Latin, and 6 of either Portuguese or Italian. And the language I wanted to learn was Catalan, so, yeah, it's a bitch.

My uni doesn't have Catalan, though :-/.

[Iskandar]

Learning the formalities of language doesn't really teach you that much about people, to be honest.Says the bitter ex-French student.

What does teach you about people is being able to talk to them in their native language.

[Smokey D]

Most people are disgusting morons anyways. :>


Except you guys. <3333

Misanthropy is so stupid.


To get accepted into the Masters progam I want, I need 6 creds of French, 6 creds of Latin, and 6 of either Portuguese or Italian. And the language I wanted to learn was Catalan, so, yeah, it's a bitch.

What programme is that? Any programme that requires Latin and isn't actually Latin is stupid.

But I suppose it makes more sense if it's a Rommance language course.

Says the bitter ex-French student.

I'm not bitter.



What does teach you about people is being able to talk to them in their native language.

Well yeah. But you're not doing that learning linguistics.

[Mr. Ron]

Sarcasm

[Iskandar]

Well yeah. But you're not doing that learning linguistics.I don't study linguistics. Other people do, and it's a useful enough field. I'm not interested enough to actually get into it though.

[Already_Taken]

I agree with hababi on this point, shoes and a bed are something that no expense should be spared for comfort. normally if you don't have your shoes on you're lying in bed and vice versa. they serve an integral role in your everyday comfort, which effects every other area of your life.

[Radiobass81]

Says the bitter ex-French student.

What does teach you about people is being able to talk to them in their native language.

Yeah, I thought that's what you were talking about. Gotcha.

What programme is that? Any programme that requires Latin and isn't actually Latin is stupid.

But I suppose it makes more sense if it's a Rommance language course.

Correct. Hispanic Studies (which here menas Literature + Linguistic, no 'cultural studies' concentration, just the required history/culture credits).

[BassRevelation1028]

<3.

Where are you from?
Texas. I'm 15 min from the Mexico border if that tells you anything

No, you just have numb feet from wearing crappy shoes all your life.
:lol:

that's cool i just wish i could ignore the difference, but when i wear cheap shoes my knees hurt constantly, and i know that spending more money alleviates the problem, so it's worth it to me. I've never spent more than $140 dollars on shoes btw, and i always wear them until they get holes, so don't bother taking any low blows at me.
um, Dr. Scholes?

[Smokey D]

I don't study linguistics. Other people do, and it's a useful enough field. I'm not interested enough to actually get into it though.

Didn't you give up studying Arabic, though?

What languages do you study?

Correct. Hispanic Studies (which here menas Literature + Linguistic, no 'cultural studies' concentration, just the required history/culture credits).

Why French?

[Already_Taken]

shut up cheapass. love yourself once in a while. (to bassrevalation)

yeah i live in DFW and most people i know are pulling for obama.

[Iskandar]

Didn't you give up studying Arabic, though?

What languages do you study?No, I still study Arabic. I'm just progressing very slowly because I'm doing it on my own; there's nowhere to learn in my city.

[Knifeboy]

This place always gets going really fast when I'm about to go to bed..

[Mr. Ron]

Pants are another thing that I don't mind spending a few extra bucks on. I have a few 2 and 3 hour classes this semester, I'll be damned if my packaged is being squeezed to oblivion all the while.

[BassRevelation1028]

shut up cheapass. love yourself once in a while. (to bassrevalation)


Money doesn't equal love you disillusioned capitalist.

[Iskandar]

Sleep is for the weak!

[Radiobass81]

Why French?

No clue, really. I know any Humanities Masters here requires a third language, and then I got Latin for obvious reasons, so I guess they just add another Romance language to make you better all around, don't know.

But it's a tough program.

[Mr. Ron]

Become an insomniac like I.

[Iskandar]

Hey, I'm a disillusioned socialist. Let's party.

I'll be damned if my packaged is being squeezed to oblivion all the while.Go commando.

[Iskandar]

There is French influence in Latin America, too.

[Mr. Ron]

Hey, I'm a disillusioned socialist. Let's party.

Go commando.

I'm debating whether I should ditch boxers and go for boxer-briefs

[Iskandar]

I'm telling you, man, go without. You don't know how freeing it can be.

[Already_Taken]

Money doesn't equal love you disillusioned capitalist.

uh does buying something with your earned money that keeps you comfortable throughout your everyday life constitute loving yourself?

boxer briefs are the best invention ever. it's like ample support, with ample headroom. and it makes you less sweaty (important if its 100 degrees everyday).

[1338 h4x0r]

Misanthropy is so stupid.

Why

[Iskandar]

WhyYou can't possibly know enough people to hate them all.

[Iskandar]

Self-love is a matter beyond the scope of this thread.

[Knifeboy]

Sleep is for the weak!

I'm thinking about trying the uberman sleep schedule (4 hours awake 20 minutes asleep and so on).. But I'd end up being so damned bored half the time

[Mr. Ron]

I'm telling you, man, go without. You don't know how freeing it can be.

What about chaffing?

[Knifeboy]

I'm telling you, man, go without. You don't know how freeing it can be.

Untill your dick gets caught in the zipper

[BassRevelation1028]

uh does buying something with your earned money that keeps you comfortable throughout your everyday life constitute loving yourself?

$20 keep me comfortable why should i pay an extra $170?

and go tell a barefoot child in Mozambique he doesn't love himself :p
I'm debating whether I should ditch boxers and go for boxer-briefs
Definitely get a few pairs. They're good for support, and the ladies love em

i dunno i feel kinda homo wearing them though.

[Mr. Ron]

I usually run on 4 to 5 hours just fine. My body has gotten used to it.

[Iskandar]

Untill your dick gets caught in the zipperThat's why pants have a built-in guard against that.
What about chaffing?I assure you, keep everything clean and there are no problems.

[Radiobass81]

Pants are another thing that I don't mind spending a few extra bucks on. I have a few 2 and 3 hour classes this semester, I'll be damned if my packaged is being squeezed to oblivion all the while.

The thing is, I'm very picky with pants, but that doesn't mean I shell out innecessary amount of money on pants. I just look around more.

Some decent pants for suits could go for a bit, though.

[Mr. Ron]

$20 keep me comfortable why should i pay an extra $170?

and go tell a barefoot child in Mozambique he doesn't love himself :p

Definitely get a few pairs. They're good for support, and the ladies love em

i dunno i feel kinda homo wearing them though.

Well, I do have a great ***.

[Knifeboy]

and go tell a barefoot child in Mozambique he doesn't love himself :p
.

If he's 14 years old I'd say he loves himself at least three times a day

[Smokey D]

There is French influence in Latin America, too.

Yeah like 100 000 people out of several hundred million.

Even in the Caribbean it's pretty small.


No, I still study Arabic. I'm just progressing very slowly because I'm doing it on my own; there's nowhere to learn in my city.

What city?

Studying languages by yourself is borderline pointless, in my opinion.

Why

Because most people are awesome.

[Mr. Ron]

The thing is, I'm very picky with pants, but that doesn't mean I shell out innecessary amount of money on pants. I just look around more.

Some decent pants for suits could go for a bit, though.

I hate to admit it but hollister and abercrombi & fitch pants are very well made and comfortable. Not the stupid ones with 100 holes in them, the regular looking ones.

[BassRevelation1028]

Well, I do have a great ***.

:lol: well its not like anyone sees em unless you take your jeans off

not like boxers where u can leave em hangin out and look baller

[Mr. Ron]

I don't doubt that there are millions of people who are worthless though.

[Already_Taken]

Got a few friends studying over there, and they always talk about the racist the people they are around are, but I can't recall where it is.

It's I think the main Texas A&M campus. Where's that?

college station. the university is all there is there pretty much. A&M is a very conservative school though, so naturally they're all racist. (haha)

[Iskandar]

Yeah like 100 000 people out of several hundred million.

Even in the Caribbean it's pretty small.Haiti and French Guiana?
What city?

Studying languages by yourself is borderline pointless, in my opinion.
Peterborough, ON.

Not totally by myself. I can talk to people on MSN, but I can't actually hold conversations face to face.

I don't have a choice, okay? There aren't any Arabs where I live.

[Radiobass81]

Yeah like 100 000 people out of several hundred million.

Even in the Caribbean it's pretty small.

He said influence, not neccesarrily (sp?) meaning they speak it. I mean, tons of writers are inspired by Kafka, and I doubt they speak... german (???).

I know you can get a concentration here on Caribbean Literature, but it's under the Hispanic Studies department, so I don't know if that would include the non-spanish speaking islands. Then again, here the Comparative Literature program is rather new, so it'll probably grow and become a mixture of the two departments.

[BassRevelation1028]

effin aggies...

[Mr. Ron]

:lol: well its not like anyone sees em unless you take your jeans off

not like boxers where u can leave em hangin out and look baller

I'll get some tomorrow and report back with a detailed findings.



Side note: I love summer because all the girls start wearing those awesome buttshorts.

[Radiobass81]

Haiti and French Guiana?

Haiti, San Bartolome, San Martinique, Guadalupe.

And quite a big number of french speakers in some other islands.

Side note: I love summer because all the girls start wearing those awesome buttshorts.

I get 'em year long.

EDIT: Smokey, how'd you do that? I don't think I could do that back when i was mod!

[Iskandar]

Whoa, triple post.

[Smokey D]

Haiti and French Guiana?

Yeah there's only like 100 000 people in French Guiana.

Haiti isn't really a Hispanic place.

He said influence, not neccesarrily (sp?) meaning they speak it. I mean, tons of writers are inspired by Kafka, and I doubt they speak... german

Sure but the only place in South America really affected culturally by France was Argentina.

Smokey, how'd you do that? I don't think I could do that back when i was mod!

I pushed the button.

Peterborough, ON.

Move to a proper city.

[BassRevelation1028]

I'll get some tomorrow and report back with a detailed findings.



Side note: I love summer because all the girls start wearing those awesome buttshorts.

They wear those all year round here in south Texas

hot weather FTW

[Iskandar]

So, who else lives in a boring sleeper town?

[Radiobass81]

Whoa, triple post.

The middle one was originally another thread :p.

Smokey: Yeah, that's what I mean, I don't know if the Carribbean Literature concentration includes the non-spanish speaking sectors.

[Smokey D]

Yeah, that's what I mean, I don't know if the Carribbean Literature concentration includes the non-spanish speaking sectors.

Caribbean lit should. Hispanic lit shouldn't (except, obviously, Portuguese.

[1338 h4x0r]

Studying languages by yourself is borderline pointless, in my opinion.

Why

Because most people are awesome.

Wrong.

Nun, Roboter, steht auf, und Sturm brich los!

[Iskandar]

Move to a proper city.Right after you move to a proper country.

[Radiobass81]

Caribbean lit should. Hispanic lit shouldn't (except, obviously, Portuguese.

Hispanic Lit doesn't include Brazil, Iberoamerican Lit does.

[Smokey D]

So, who else lives in a boring sleeper town?

Well, I do but 75 000 is just hilarious.

Right after you move to a proper country.

I guarantee I live in a more cosmopolitan place than Peterborough.


Hispanic Lit doesn't include Brazil, Iberoamerican Lit does.

If they're gonna make that distinction, they should definitely make the distinction between Caribbean and Hispanic.

Why

Because the payoff for your effort is minimal compared to the payoff you get learning in groups/immersed.

Nun, Roboter, steht auf, und Sturm brich los!

Look, being evidence that some people are stupid isn't going to change my mind.

[Iskandar]

Well, I do but 75 000 is just hilarious.Look, man, I didn't ask to be born here.

[Radiobass81]

Well, I do but 75 000 is just hilarious.



Because the payoff for your effort is minimal compared to the payoff you get learning in groups/immersed.



Look, being evidence that some people are stupid isn't going to change my mind.

The problem I see with learning a language by yourself is one's pronunciation. It's basically a guess.

[Iskandar]

The problem I see with learning a language by yourself is one's pronunciation. It's basically a guess.Not really if you listen to it on the internet/radio/TV/whatever.

[Smokey D]

Look, man, I didn't ask to be born here.

Aren't you 18?

The problem I see with learning a language by yourself is one's pronunciation. It's basically a guess.

And the fact that it's pretty much impossible to practice in a meaningful way.

[Already_Taken]

unless you're schizophrenic*

[Radiobass81]

Not really if you listen to it on the internet/radio/TV/whatever.

Still, one doesn't notice sometimes. Or maybe French is just really hard to get right and I think most languages are.

[Radiobass81]

And the fact that it's pretty much impossible to practice in a meaningful way.

Maybe speaking it, but you could read. I'd LOVE to read some Saramago in Portuguese, or The Little Prince in French*.

'Course, Les Miserables, too, but I'll start with The Little Prince.

[Mr. Ron]

Has anyone ever been to Moscow? If so, does it rule?

*is planning for next year's euro trip*

[Iskandar]

Aren't you 18?Aren't I not in a financial position to pack up and head for Copenhagen?
And the fact that it's pretty much impossible to practice in a meaningful way.You're on it right now.

[Radiobass81]

Has anyone ever been to Moscow? If so, does it rule?

*is planning for next year's euro trip*

I did a Euro Trip, but went to neither any pre-Soviet Curtain country, nor Spain. Still an awesome trip, though.

[Smokey D]

Smokey: Really, how DID you move it? Check'd the box on the posts, I'm guessing, but then what, there's an option to move the posts, or did you merge the posts into this thread (could that be done)? Terribly curious

There's an option in the moderation list.

Still, one doesn't notice sometimes. Or maybe French is just really hard to get right and I think most languages are.

One problem is that you may think you pronounce stuff correctly but you don't have anyone to correct you.



More fundamentally, though, I think is the problem of grammar and stuff. As I say, I can read French well enough to get buy, but I can't respond in dynamic situations that require me to formulate my own sentences.


Has anyone ever been to Moscow? If so, does it rule?


Moscow's stressful as, from what I understand, and Russia as a whole is very uptight. Compared to travel within the EU, it'll be difficult. But it's pretty good.

That's what my friend said, anyway.



Aren't I not in a financial position to pack up and head for Copenhagen?

Maybe not, but what about Montreal, Toronto or Vancouver.

You're on it right now.

On what?

[Radiobass81]

There's an option in the moderation list.



One problem is that you may think you pronounce stuff correctly but you don't have anyone to correct you.

More fundamentally, though, I think is the problem of grammar and stuff. As I say, I can read French well enough to get buy, but I can't respond in dynamic situations that require me to formulate my own sentences.

Gotcha.

But I guess by reading you can eventually get how to construct sentences. Maybe.

[Knifeboy]

Aren't I not in a financial position to pack up and head for Copenhagen?

I'd let you crash at my place

[Iskandar]

Our forum's pariah, 1338 h@x0rz, taught himself Swedish by studying books and talking to Swedes on MSN. But Swedish is a lot easier than Arabic.
I'd let you crash at my placeDo we have to drink Tuborg?:(

[Mr. Ron]

I like chris

[Radiobass81]

Our forum's pariah, 1338 h@x0rz, taught himself Swedish by studying books and talking to Swedes on MSN. But Swedish is a lot easier than Arabic.

Pariah?

If you talk with it through MSN you'll atleast be able to get the grammatical part down.

[Mr. Ron]

I learned the language of love from an older woman

OoooooOO la la laaaa doo doooo

[Smokey D]

But I guess by reading you can eventually get how to construct sentences. Maybe.

Yeah sure. I can construct sentences. But I can't process information being told to me and create my own information to respond wiht simultaneously. that takes practice and immersion.

Our forum's pariah, 1338 h@x0rz, taught himself Swedish by studying books and talking to Swedes on MSN. But Swedish is a lot easier than Arabic.

I'd be interested in how good his grammar is and what his speaking skills are like.


If you talk with it through MSN you'll atleast be able to get the grammatical part down.

Really? In French, everything's homophonic and if they just do what we do and write the sounds, you miss out on lots of the grammar.

[Iskandar]

I like chrisI like him too, a lot. But Smokey D doesn't.
I'd be interested in how good his grammar is and what his speaking skills are like.From what I can tell, very good. He's translating someone's book into English.

You're convinced it's impossible to learn a language without interacting with native speakers on a daily basis. It's not impossible; it's just a lot harder.

[Mr. Ron]

Thats because smokey is merely a debating computer.


jk luke ilu <3

[1338 h4x0r]

And the fact that it's pretty much impossible to practice in a meaningful way.

Well, in certain respects, this is very true, because language is (partly) subjective beyond basic bits of grammar and theoretical things that have no everyday applications. I didn't quite understand what you meant the first time.

That's why I dropped the idea of studying language formally. The beauty of maths and CS is that both can be studied almost autonomously. When you write proofs and they check out consistently, and the concepts all make sense, you can judge your strengths and weaknesses pretty accurately without help from anyone.

[Knifeboy]

Do we have to drink Tuborg?:(


I'd probably kick you out if you drank my tuborg

[Smokey D]

Who's luke, why do you people keep on calling me that.

I like him too, a lot. But Smokey D doesn't.

He bugs me because he trolls, and then doesn't shut up when I ask him to. He's like the only person who requires active moderation.

[Mr. Ron]

I thought that was your name?

[1338 h4x0r]

I'd be interested in how good his grammar is and what his speaking skills are like.

Pretty idiomatic grammar (look at the svenska pit thread or ask Pete), I don't speak it at all at the moment though.

People tend to say that I write 'gammaldags' (old timey) svenska but my English written expression often tends to be overly formal too, so idk.

He bugs me because he trolls, and then doesn't shut up when I ask him to. He's like the only person who requires active moderation.

Tough titties

Nun, Roboter, steht auf, und Sturm brich los!

[Smokey D]

I said that because we were talking about star wars.

[Radiobass81]

Really? In French, everything's homophonic and if they just do what we do and write the sounds, you miss out on lots of the grammar.

Ah, true, I was assuming the people fluent in French would write correctly in MSN. BIG mistake :p.

[Radiobass81]

I said that because we were talking about star wars.

:lol:!

Hey, mind telling me what a troll actually is?

[Mr. Ron]

God damn I can't wait for my European history class. I hear my professor is very good.


I'm thinking of adding a class about ancient china, worth it?

[Iskandar]

I said that because we were talking about star wars.I thought you said it was your real name in an earlier thread.
Really? In French, everything's homophonic and if they just do what we do and write the sounds, you miss out on lots of the grammar.Well that's because half the letters are silent in French. This isn't a problem in most languages.
I'd probably kick you out if you drank my tuborgI won't because I don't like beer.:)

[1338 h4x0r]

Hell yeah

@ Mr. Ron

[Radiobass81]

God damn I can't wait for my European history class. I hear my professor is very good.


I'm thinking of adding a class about ancient china, worth it?

Sure.

I'm taking 19 credits my first semester, which some people tell me is suicidal. The thing is, I'm going to change from Social Sciences to Humanities, so I wanted to take the classes from SoSci that seem interesting, In case I don't have the opportunity to take them after the switch.

[Mr. Ron]

Hell yeah

@ Mr. Ron

Yeah I think ancient China is amazing. Really ahead of their time.


I'm reading a book right now on how the Chinese "discovered america" in 1421.

[Radiobass81]

Yeah I think ancient China is amazing. Really ahead of their time.


I'm reading a book right now on how the Chinese "discovered america" in 1421.

What are you mayoring in?

[Mr. Ron]

Sure.

I'm taking 19 credits my first semester, which some people tell me is suicidal. The thing is, I'm going to change from Social Sciences to Humanities, so I wanted to take the classes from SoSci that seem interesting, In case I don't have the opportunity to take them after the switch.

Good luck on those 19 credits, that'll be a load.


I plan on really immersing myself this semester. I sort of coasted my way through and was a bit lazy last semester. Now that I'm single I'll have even more time to be on my studies more often.


What are you mayoring in?

History. Mostly European history.

[Knifeboy]

I won't because I don't like beer.:)


+1 point, more beer for me

-2 points, no beers for me to steal

[Iskandar]

Isn't that just a myth that the Chinese came to the Pacific Coast?

I know the Norse came to Newfoundland in about 1000 CE.

[Radiobass81]

Good luck on those 19 credits, that'll be a load.


I plan on really immersing myself this semester. I sort of coasted my way through and was a bit lazy last semester. Now that I'm single I'll have even more time to be on my studies more often.

I've got two classes I'll have trouble in, because I don't like them, but the others I like, so I'm hoping I can do well in those.

Biology, Statistics (these two at 7am!!!!), Intro to SoSci, Intro to Biology, Intro to Psych, some Humanities class on ancient civilizations, and the one I'm going to add is Etnohistory of Puerto RIco.

[Mr. Ron]

Isn't that just a myth that the Chinese came to the Pacific Coast?

I know the Norse came to Newfoundland in about 1000 CE.

Columbus got his maps from the Chinese, the copies still exist, and they have America on them. So they obviously were there. Theres also accounts of Chinese people being integrated into Indian tribes when the first settlers came here.

There were also junk wrecks found on the coast of California.


Although I am very skeptical of it all.


EDIT: haha, this book is a joke. Those maps are from the 1700's. *puts book on shelf forever*


I've got two classes I'll have trouble in, because I don't like them, but the others I like, so I'm hoping I can do well in those.

Biology, Statistics (these two at 7am!!!!), Intro to SoSci, Intro to Biology, Intro to Psych, some Humanities class on ancient civilizations, and the one I'm going to add is Etnohistory of Puerto RIco.

Ouch! Two classes I myself had trouble in at that hour! I loathed my early classes. I was so tired I might as well have not even gone.

[1338 h4x0r]

(taking 19 credits next semester myself, look forward to it)

I don't know about the story of the maps. However, archaeological evidence is iffy to my knowledge. It is possible that the Chinese visited the New World, but I don't suppose they did much there. As much as I enjoy Chinese history, culture, etc., (etc., etc.) you always have to consider the source with Asian history texts because they tend to be very nationalistic. Like I was looking through the maths section at a local college library where I have a patron card, and they had a provocative title called Was Pythagoras Chinese?. The Chinese may have discovered similar results as he did independently but that implies that Pythagoras was Chinese no more than it implies Karl Gauss was Chinese—since he independently realized a result that had been discovered in the first few centuries after Christ in China, but in mathematically modern terms. Namely Gaussian elimination.

[Mr. Ron]

(taking 19 credits next semester myself, look forward to it)

I don't know about the story of the maps. However, archaeological evidence is iffy to my knowledge. It is possible that the Chinese visited the New World, but I don't suppose they did much there. As much as I enjoy Chinese history, culture, etc., (etc., etc.) you always have to consider the source with Asian history texts because they tend to be very nationalistic. Like I was looking through the math section at a local college library and they had a provocative title called Was Pythagoras Chinese?. The Chinese may have discovered similar results as he did independently but that implies that the Pythagoras was Chinese no more than it implies Karl Gauss was Chinese—since he independently realized a result that had been discovered in the first few centuries after Christ in China, but in mathematically modern terms.

Yeah, reading further into his book he seems to be using bunk history and unfounded "findings". The maps I mentioned above are actually from the 1700's. haha

[1338 h4x0r]

Oh yeah I remember that story now

[Mr. Ron]

There were pix of the maps in his book, and I thought to myself "waiiiittt a minute, I saw those before!" and I thumbed through one of my history texts and I found the same map which was made very much later on.

I feel like crap for buying this.

[1338 h4x0r]

Well I like to "try before you buy" tbh. I checked out this one book from the library, Discrete Mathematics (Johnsonbaugh) and a word of warning to anyone who wants to pursue this field on his own: this book is pure ****. I found a major error almost as soon as I sat down on the porcelain seat of wisdom. Usually a cursory look at a few pages is good enough to tell whether a book is good and suitable for your purposes or not. However, some authors will sneak **** in under the radar and pack your mouth full of turds while you sleep.

I like to go on amazon.com, look for the title, and then read reviews. Had I done so for the Johnsonbaugh text, I would have found a 1 1/2 out of 5 star rating (IIRC) and a load of scathing reviews.

Live and learn, I guess. Unlike many people, you eventually realized that you were being fed horseshit, which is a huge step in the right direction.

[Mr. Ron]

Yeah well it was sort of an impulse buy, and it was very cheap ($10 used). I'll give it to one of my freinds who is a business major haha

[1338 h4x0r]

Used books rule. Mr. Ron have you seen http://www.abebooks.com ? Even expensive books are cheap here. Well below $10 in almost every case.

and why would you do that to your friend lol

[Radiobass81]

I've bought a few books for $1, used. Both were great, though :p.

[Mr. Ron]

Used books rule. Mr. Ron have you seen http://www.abebooks.com ?

and why would you do that to your friend lol
No, I've never seen that site before, its neat.

There is a nice section of used books for sale at my library. They have quite a large selection.



He'll read anything. He's a binge reader.

[1338 h4x0r]

Why do they sell anything that's good rather than keep it in circulation?

Library sales are supposed to be for getting rid of boring ****

[Mr. Ron]

I really don't know. Its a pretty wealthy college library so i guess they can circulate nerwer stuff in pretty easily.

[1338 h4x0r]

/is jealous

:angry:

[gregulus]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d57/b_gardenia/political/meghan-mccain.jpg

hmmmmmmm.

[Radiobass81]

Pretty nice blackberry.

[gregulus]

Pretty nice blackberry.

http://i34.tinypic.com/6gdhdl.jpg

[1338 h4x0r]

McBush has new meaning

[dei]

She looks like one of those girls I'd never date.

[Mr. Ron]

Anything over a handful is trouble.

[Radiobass81]

Ouch! Two classes I myself had trouble in at that hour! I loathed my early classes. I was so tired I might as well have not even gone.

I'm about an hour away from the uni, too :(.

[Mr. Ron]

Ew.

One of my professors had a 2 hour commute.

[Smokey D]

I'm reading a book right now on how the Chinese "discovered america" in 1421

Ew, that book is so crap.

Well, not all of it. Zheng He probably did go to the East coast of Africa and South Asia, but there's no way he crossed the Pacific or went to Australia.

[Mr. Ron]

Ew, that book is so crap.

Well, not all of it. Zheng He probably did go to the East coast of Africa and South Asia, but there's no way he crossed the Pacific or went to Australia.

Yeah I read a little more and he has 4 dates that are off and some of his citations are iffy.

[1338 h4x0r]

Mr. Ron edited his post to show that he figured out the sham

[Smokey D]

I'm not sure the maps dates are too bad since he notes that they are reproductions. But to say they come from China is pretty unsubstantiated, and as you say they're probably in the wrong century.

[Smokey D]

You're convinced it's impossible to learn a language without interacting with native speakers on a daily basis. It's not impossible; it's just a lot harder.

Actually I said that. Your pay off rate is ridiculously low given the effort you have to put in.

Hey, mind telling me what a troll actually is?

A troll is someone who does **** on a forum purely to piss people off.

I thought you said it was your real name in an earlier thread.

Why would I give out real information online?

[Mr. Ron]

I'm not sure the maps dates are too bad since he notes that they are reproductions. But to say they come from China is pretty unsubstantiated, and as you say they're probably in the wrong century.

Nah, the map he shows in the book that he claims to be from the 1400's was indeed Chinese in make, but dated back to the late 1700's.

[Smokey D]

Which one?

[33rd and a half Degree]

trolls are funny though, 1338 however just comes across like a retard in a hug box

[Mr. Ron]

The one that shows all the continents.


@ smokey

[Radiobass81]

A troll is someone who does **** on a forum purely to piss people off.



Why would I give out real information online?

Got it :p.

Well, your first name isn't bad. I actually like being called Jorge on the forums :), and calling the few people I know by their first names.

[Smokey D]

The one that shows all the continents.


@ smokey

I haven't read the book in ages?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zhenghemap.jpg

That one? If so, then yes that's perfect evidence of why it's bullshit.



Well, your first name isn't bad. I actually like being called Jorge on the forums , and calling the few people I know by their first names.

Hey just coz you wanna steal my identity.

trolls are funny though, 1338 however just comes across like a retard in a hug box

Good trolls are funny, and can be stimulating in their trolling.

[Mr. Ron]

Yeah thats the map.

[Radiobass81]

Hey just coz you wanna steal my identity.

:(.

[33rd and a half Degree]

Good trolls are funny, and can be stimulating in their trolling.

Yeah but you aren't a good troll, and only funny unintentionally. Now go get in your hug machine and put more squeeze in it baby.

[Smokey D]

:(.I don't blame you. It's a good one.

Yeah but you aren't a good troll, and only funny unintentionally. Now go get in your hug machine and put more squeeze in it baby.

I'm not a troll.

[33rd and a half Degree]

lol that was for 1338 and a typo

[Radiobass81]

I don't blame you. It's a good one

<3.

Hey, you guys know anything about Trujillo?

Reading a book about him, now.

[33rd and a half Degree]

Everytime 1338 trolls, we all need to remind him it is time for him to get in his hug machine and squeeze some love into him.

[Radiobass81]

Everytime 1338 trolls, we all need to remind him it is time for him to get in his hug machine and squeeze some love into him.

He makes me laugh, though, I really don't mind him. I've got him on MSN :p.

We've had some really bad 'trolls' in the Bass Forum, back when I was around. This forum really has nothing to complain about, if the worse it has is this.

[33rd and a half Degree]

he makes me laugh but unintentionally i almost feel bad sometimes

[1338 h4x0r]

trolls are funny though, 1338 however just comes across like a retard in a hug box

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[Radiobass81]

Buddy, I just defended you, no reason for that :(.

[1338 h4x0r]

He said that I'm like a "retard in a hug box".

[Smokey D]

I dunno about that but you're pretty annoying sometimes and you take pleasure from pissing me off.

[Amit]

i Dunno About That But You're Pretty Annoying Sometimes And You Take Pleasure From Pissing Me Off.

123

[1338 h4x0r]

I dunno about that but you're pretty annoying sometimes and you take pleasure from pissing me off.

Of course, I'm a sadist, what did you expect

[Smokey D]

I expect you not to be a tool, really.

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm not a tool, I'm a sadist.

[Smokey D]

Potato potahto.

[1338 h4x0r]

No I'm a sadist, didn't I mention earlier that I wanted to enter the military-industrial complex because maintaining my sanity requires blood sacrifice?

Only the fresh blood of the innocent will do.

[McP3000]

he's saying that all sadists are tools are you dumb

[Amit]

well he's a sadist tool so yeah he is

[1338 h4x0r]

he's saying that all sadists are tools are you dumb

(x)(Sx → Tx)?

There must be at least one individual y such that Sy ∧ ~Ty.

[Amit]

lol can it has be hug box now tiem?

[McP3000]

that made me think of SIG:AR:TYR and no i dont care what that means

@Odin

[1338 h4x0r]

There most likely is at least one sadist that is not a tool so that universal quantification doesn't work

[Amit]

hug hug hug

[McP3000]

proof of burden is on you, ODIN

[Amit]

omg fallacial logicy!

[1338 h4x0r]

proof of burden is on you, ODIN

Dick Cheney isn't a tool

He runs the show

[McP3000]

Dick Cheney isn't a tool

He runs the show
I severly doubt he's a sadist