PNWI Community Thread version 3.0 (KEEP REFRIGERATED AT ALL TIMES)

[guitrguy]

Samuel Adams is good you son of a bitch! :^p

foreigners only get our poopty beers though.

[Already_Taken]

mmm shiner bock

[Mr. Ron]

All Canadian beers are gross and should be discontinued.

[guitrguy]

canada is state number 51

[1338 h4x0r]

The verb is to hurdle.

As in, I hurdle, I will hurdle, I shall hurdle, I'm hurdling, I hurdled and I have hurdled.

Have conjugates like a verb but the verbal phrase is 'you have hurdled', with the important bit coming at the end. If you put it in the present tense, you would have 'a high bar, you hurdle'. So the sentence was OSV.

I would have written "A high bar hurdle you"

IIRC, this kind of syntax was common in Old English and is definitely still common in the nearest relatives of English. If you look at the links I provided earlier, they classify constructs such as the one I wrote as OVS, even if 'to have' is in there.

btw, the best instance of this kind of old-timey syntax in modern English is the poem The Challenge of Thor by Longfellow

I am the God Thor,
I am the War God,
I am the Thunderer!
Here in my Northland,
My fastness and fortress, Reign I forever!

Here amid icebergs
Rule I the nations;
This is my hammer,
Miölner the mighty;
Giants and sorcerers
Cannot withstand it!

These are the gauntlets
Wherewith I wield it,
And hurl it afar off;
This is my girdle;
Whenever I brace it,
Strength is redoubled!

The light thou beholdest
Stream through the heavens,
In flashes of crimson,
Is but my red beard
Blown by the night-wind,
Affrighting the nations!
Jove is my brother;
Mine eyes are the lightning;
The wheels of my chariot
Roll in the thunder,
The blows of my hammer
Ring in the earthquake!

Force rules the world still,
Has ruled it, shall rule it;
Meekness is weakness,
Strength is triumphant,
Over the whole earth
Still is it Thor's-Day!

Thou art a God too,
O Galilean!
And thus singled-handed
Unto the combat,
Gauntlet or Gospel,
Here I defy thee!

[Dave de Sylvia]

Samuel Adams is good you son of a bitch! :^p
omg this is also true

This is the only one I drink in American bars, as well as Leinenkugel's honey weiss on tap.

[guitrguy]

Imma buy you a drank, SOP

[Mr. Ron]

There's this liqueur warehouse near me that has every beer imaginable and I like to pick out obscure ones that I've never tried before. Most of them are upsetting.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Imma buy you a drank, SOP
I accept nothing less than cases. Email me your credit card number and I'll order it myself >_>

[guitrguy]

hey hey im not a beer slut.

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm drinking cognac here

yourself?

[dei]

Damn alcoholics.

[Smokey D]

I didn't mean to imply that I didn't drink filthy river water. Just not American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waikato_River

http://www.lion-nathan.com.au/Great-Brands/NZ-Beer/Waikato-Draught.aspx



IIRC, this kind of syntax was common in Old English and is definitely still common in the nearest relatives of English. If you look at the links I provided earlier, they classify constructs such as the one I wrote as OVS, even if 'to have' is in there.

I think that's pretty silly since it's basically saying the object-verb structure changes based on tense when the modified verb is still at the end of the sentence. There's plenty of room for OSV and OVS sentences in the English languages, but in most cases it sounds pretty silly.

[1338 h4x0r]

Damn alcoholics.

I should probably go back to purp juice

[Dave de Sylvia]

I'm drinking cognac here

yourself?
It better be Hennessy or I'lla blow your brains out.

[Mr. Ron]

I'll take some 2%

in a dirty glass

[guitrguy]

rebel

[1338 h4x0r]

I think that's pretty silly since it's basically saying the object-verb structure changes based on tense when the modified verb is still at the end of the sentence. There's plenty of room for OSV and OVS sentences in the English languages, but in most cases it sounds pretty silly.

The point wasn't to make it look like Modern English. Example:

http://tinyurl.com/tha-haefde-he-gesprec

Like, I said, this kind of grammar is generally described by scholars as OVS, even as it applies to modern languages.

It better be Hennessy or I'lla blow your brains out.

Whatever you say, Volumnius Flush.

[Iscariot]

All Canadian beers are gross and should be discontinued.

no no no no no

lebatt's blue and molson are top notch

[Dave de Sylvia]

wait a minute

[guitrguy]

/waits

[Dave de Sylvia]

thanks

[Amit]

now wat

[dei]

1338 is Pastorius?

[Der Übermensch]

what?

[dei]

I'm confused.

[guitrguy]

now wat

this

[1338 h4x0r]

1338 is Pastorius?

No, I was just pointing out that him having a Latin un is about as pretentious as me mentioning James Randi—which is to say not at all

[Mr. Ron]

no no no no no

lebatt's blue and molson are top notch

gross.


chris e-mail me the link to your blog, I don't remember it:

bitterseason13@gmail.com

[dei]

No, I was just pointing out that him having a Latin un is about as pretentious as me mentioning James Randi—which is to say not at all

Oh.

[1338 h4x0r]

gross.


chris e-mail me the link to your blog, I don't remember it:

bitterseason13@gmail.com

http://eabcaecbbceacbae.blogspot.com

I'll put up a new vid just 4 u <3

[Dave de Sylvia]

your blog is like gibberish to me

[Mr. Ron]

http://eabcaecbbceacbae.blogspot.com

I'll put up a new vid just 4 u <3

such a good song \m/

[1338 h4x0r]

your blog is like gibberish to me

The NPR puzzle was easy. Or do you mean all that **** about probability theory and AI?

such a good song \m/

Yeah bro, I was looking around on last.fm for a new black metal band and, since consistently great black metal bands are hard to find, I was really fortunate this time

moar songs hier:

http://www.last.fm/music/Darkspace

[croniun]

I've been to Houston twice, and it seems like a complete disaster area. No organisation whatsoever.

houston as in katy, texas is nice.

[Dr Hooch]

foreigners only get our poopty beers though.

Honestly that "coors light" sh!t you send us on draught

it would lose a blind taste test with our tap water

[guitrguy]

Honestly that "coors light" sh!t you send us on draught

it would lose a blind taste test with our tap water

Honestly I think you're right.

[Invicta_Veritas]

MGD ftw.

[1338 h4x0r]

beer ftl

tbh

[Invicta_Veritas]

You don't like beer? You're odd.

What hard alcohol do you drink?

[1338 h4x0r]

I drink no alcohol whatever—no narcotics either

[Smokey D]

Are you straight edge?

And if so, why on earth?

[Invicta_Veritas]

Wow. Kudos, I mean that's not a bad thing....just rather uncommon tbh (referring to the alcohol). I like me some alcohol every once in a while.

You never struck me as one who does drugs, so I figured as much. I don't either; it's retarded to me.

[Already_Taken]

Are you straight edge?

And if so, why on earth?

he's autistic.

[Iscariot]

:lol:

[1338 h4x0r]

Are you straight edge?

No, I listen to metal, not so much hardcore.

And if so, why on earth?

Easy. Teetotaling incurs minimum risk. Anyway, I don't like the taste of alcohol.

And—regardless—dipset:

http://i35.tinypic.com/148jjmq.png
http://i34.tinypic.com/oapsih.png

he's autistic.

A few—probably not many—but a few autistics consume drugs.

I don't really know why.

[Smokey D]

Easy. Teetotaling incurs minimum risk. Anyway, I don't like the taste of alcohol.

Risk must always be assessed against gain. And you can gain a lot from alcohol consumption.

The taste of alcohol can be disguised.

And—regardless—dipset:

http://i35.tinypic.com/148jjmq.png
http://i34.tinypic.com/oapsih.png

I don't understand.

[1338 h4x0r]

Risk must always be assessed against gain. And you can gain a lot from alcohol consumption.

The taste of alcohol can be disguised.

Risk functions do not take gain into account.

Regardless, I haven't gained anything from drinking since I don't like inebriation either.

I don't understand.

"Drinking alcohol has no function."

Incidentally, that's the stare I give people when they say things I consider silly. It means someone has caused the #doesNotUnderstand method to be invoked.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Occasional inebriation is an incredible way to relax and have fun times, and the risks are far less than narcotics or overly excessive alcohol consumption.

[Smokey D]

Risk functions do not take gain into account.

The only reason to assess risk is to decide whether it's worth it.

Regardless, I haven't gained anything from drinking since I don't like inebriation either.

You clearly haven't done it enough.


"Drinking alcohol has no function."


Nor does watching movies. If you discount the social benefits and release of pleasure inducing chemicals.


Incidentally, that's the stare I give people when they say things I consider silly. It means someone has caused the #doesNotUnderstand method to be invoked.

What?

[1338 h4x0r]

Occasional inebriation is an incredible way to relax and have fun times, and the risks are far less than narcotics or overly excessive alcohol consumption.

See below.

The only reason to assess risk is to decide whether it's worth it.

Yes. I've assessed it. Since I lose very little from not drinking alcohol, and since it's more likely than not that alcohol's effect on the body is negative overall—which seems reasonable considering the liver has to process it—the risk involved in drinking alcohol is greater than the risk in not drinking it.

This guy explains it better tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y

You clearly haven't done it enough.

I've been inebriated before. I didn't like it.

Nor does watching movies. If you discount the social benefits and release of pleasure inducing chemicals.

I usually just listen to them tbh.

That's also why I prefer radio over television.

What?

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DoesNotUnderstand

[Smokey D]

Yes. I've assessed it. Since I lose very little from not drinking alcohol, and since it's more likely than not that alcohol's effect on the body is negative overall—which seems reasonable considering the liver has to process it—the risk involved in drinking alcohol is greater than the risk in not drinking it.


Okay but the benefit gained from drinking alcohol outweighs in 95% of cases the risk of harm as long as you aren't an idiot.


I've been inebriated before. I didn't like it.

Once or twice doesn't count. And it has to be in the right settings and the right amount. Besides, you're talking like all narcotics give the same buzz and that's just silly. Maybe you'll like something other than alcohol.


I usually just listen to them tbh.

That's also why I prefer radio over television.

Well, like drinking, you're missing out on a very large part of the human experience.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Trying to convince 1338 to watch tv and do drugs.

:lol:

[1338 h4x0r]

Okay but the benefit gained from drinking alcohol outweighs in 95% of cases the risk of harm as long as you aren't an idiot.

Alcohol is deleterious by nature.


Once or twice doesn't count. And it has to be in the right settings and the right amount. Besides, you're talking like all narcotics give the same buzz and that's just silly. Maybe you'll like something other than alcohol.


All of them are either illegal or dangerous.

You know what gives me a buzz? Endorphines.

Well, like drinking, you're missing out on a very large part of the human experience.

Even certain ape species know how to get smashed. They pile up fruit and let the core ferment. If I remember right, elephants can do something similar.

The main thing that sets humans apart from any other sapient on Earth is the ability to reason, which is impaired, even if briefly, by alcohol. If you clicked the video I posted earlier, there is a very strong explanation of why teetotaling is good.

Trying to convince 1338 to watch tv and do drugs.

:lol:

Yeah, it's not "don't bother him with facts, he's already made up his mind", instead it's "don't bother him with making up his mind, he already has facts".

[Smokey D]

Alcohol is deleterious by nature.

Explain.

All of them are either illegal or dangerous.

You know what gives me a buzz? Endorphines.

Well some of them are dangerous, but most can be used safely.

And legality is totally arbitrary. Why make choices based on the puritan morality of the people you seem to so despise? It's not like you're going to be arrested unless you're selling it.

Even certain ape species know how to get smashed. They pile up fruit and let the core ferment. If I remember right, elephants can do something similar.

Good on them. Chimpanzee knows how to party.

The main thing that sets humans apart from any other sapient on Earth is the ability to reason, which is impaired, even if briefly, by alcohol. If you clicked the video I posted earlier, there is a very strong explanation of why teetotaling is good.


That's not a good reason at all since when I'm drinking I'm not trying to be deeply rational.

instead it's "don't bother him with making up his mind, he already has facts".

Your facts are lame.

[spitfirejunky]

Alcohol is deleterious by nature.

Actually alcohol is extremely healthy in moderation. Pretty much every old person in the world can verify this.

[1338 h4x0r]

Explain.

Well, it's poisonous. One might counter that "dose makes the poison"—but comparison to a substance like iron or oxygen is spurious because I need them to live. I don't need alcohol to live.

Anyway, I think I'll keep my taut skin tyvm.

Well some of them are dangerous, but most can be used safely.

That's not the point. I like perceiving reality all the time.

And legality is totally arbitrary. Why make choices based on the puritan morality of the people you seem to so despise? It's not like you're going to be arrested unless you're selling it.

It's not strictly Puritan morality I hate, I just hate all the "JAY-ZUS RODE A DAH-NO-SAWR" and "THEM A-RABS IS GUNNA COME N' KILL URR KRIS'CHIN CHIL'REN" garbage.

Look at Swedes, for instance, who are very secular. They tend to have very negative and even incorrect attitudes towards narcotics. This view is probably influenced by historically influential Protestantism and even certain pre-Christian beliefs. Their neighbors, the Germans, have criminal penalties for drug use that are unusually stiff by Northern European standards.

Since I like living up to certain Teutonic ethnic stereotypes—like emotional coldness, limitless perseverance and borderline psychotic aggression—I took those kinds attitudes a step further and excluded all drug use altogether. What's more awesome than a walking German ethnic stereotype who teetotals?


It's not like you're going to be arrested unless you're selling it.


I'm willing to guess that most people in prison for drug offenses here in the US are not dealers.

Always beware of former high school bullies on power trips.


That's not a good reason at all since when I'm drinking I'm not trying to be deeply rational.


OK.

I'm not telling you not to drink btw.

Your facts are lame.

No they're not.

Actually alcohol is extremely healthy in moderation. Pretty much every old person in the world can verify this.

That probably owes to compounds in some alcoholic beverages that promote cardiac health, not ethyl alcohol itself.

Furthermore

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/377381.stm

[Smokey D]

Well, it's poisonous. One might counter that "dose makes the poison"—but comparison to a substance like iron or oxygen is spurious because I need them to live. I don't need alcohol to live.

It's not poisonous unless you over consume.

And poison isn't necessarily bad.

That's not the point. I like perceiving reality all the time.


How would you know?


Look at Swedes, for instance, who are very secular. They tend to have very negative and even incorrect attitudes towards narcotics. This view is probably influenced by historically influential Protestantism and even certain pre-Christian beliefs. Their neighbors, the Germans, have criminal penalties for drug use that are unusually stiff by Northern European standards.

Since I like living up to certain Teutonic ethnic stereotypes—like emotional coldness, limitless perseverance and borderline psychotic aggression—I took those kinds attitudes a step further and excluded all drug use altogether. What's more awesome than a walking German ethnic stereotype who teetotals?

Those are stupid stereotypes since all Swedes and Germans I know get ****ed up all the time. You're mistaking stupid bourgeois morality for real people's ideas again.

I'm willing to guess that most people in prison for drug offenses here in the US are not dealers.

I'm willing to bet they did more than use occasionally.


Always beware of former high school bullies on power trips.

What?


I'm not telling you not to drink btw.

Well I'm saying that you shouldn't always be trying to be rational because it's highly artificial and not much fun.

No they're not.

Why are you saying drinking is bad then?

[1338 h4x0r]

It's not poisonous unless you over consume.

Regardless, dipset

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/377381.stm

And poison isn't necessarily bad.

:lol:

How would you know?

Because being in any altered state of consciousness upsets me. I like to be in control.

Those are stupid stereotypes since all Swedes and Germans I know get ****ed up all the time. You're mistaking stupid bourgeois morality for real people's ideas again.

I know that, too, because I talk with Swedish people on MSN, in Swedish. I'm well aware of Scandinavian drinking habits, and disapprove.

That's why I said 'Teutonic stereotypes'. I like living up to them.

I'm willing to bet they did more than use occasionally.

A lot of 'em are just regular-*** weed smokers.

Plus I know a good deal people who have either gotten busted or come very close. Alright, that's anecdotal but, still, I don't break laws unless I'm absolutely sure I won't get caught and then only if the penalty is light.

What?

Many police officers in this country. :lol:

Well I'm saying that you shouldn't always be trying to be rational because it's highly artificial and not much fun.

It does give me the will to resist people (not you btw) who attempt to force their opinions on me and in many cases allows me to seek lawful retaliation.

Which is pretty cool.

Besides, my instincts are more oriented towards survival than enjoyment. I wouldn't say I live a joyless existence, but I still find the world very confusing, oppressive and dangerous. As such, I have to be ready to fight against it in a lot of cases.

Why are you saying drinking is bad then?

Because it's stupid.

[pedro durruti]

Because it's stupid.
Perhaps for your lifestyle and others but absolutes run contrary to reality where things can be bad or good depending on pure circumstance.

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm just expressing my opinion ofc

If others want to drink alcohol, I won't make much of an effort to tell them otherwise. In fact, I might even benefit from their habits in a relative way.

[pedro durruti]

americans drink 1.5 bottles of poison a day.

[ringworm]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/mccain-maybe-ci.html

why is the media letting mccain get away with so many idiotic comments?


sure, they may be jokes directed at dumb **** kickers that go into voting booths and vote straight ticket republican regardless of the candidate choice, but where are all the smart people to flame him when he makes unpresidential comments and then tries to paint Obama as a wolf in sheeps clothing?

i dont get it

i wonder if McCain has strong ties with the tobacco industry? In that case, how does he feel about Americans and smoking, is killing us with them also funny?

[Der Übermensch]

yay! my letter is in the paper.
I'm at work atm, but i'll scan it when I get home.

[Already_Taken]

smokey D i was serious.

And McCain is going to get us in trouble if he runs his mouth like that as president!

[Mr. Ron]

good mernin'

[Der Übermensch]

guh mernin' ta you too bub

[Mr. Ron]

I think I'll go hiking today. Its no to hot out. Yesterday it was 98 degrees. :(

[dei]

I saw 98 Degrees live once.

[Mr. Ron]

My sister used to blast them every morning where I was in high school...that and hansen.

[Amit]

Incidentally, that's the stare I give people when they say things I consider silly. It means someone has caused the #doesNotUnderstand method to be invoked.

lmao i think we got an autsy on our hands

[1338 h4x0r]

uhhhh

that's what I said

[Dr Hooch]

1338 would you not kiss girls because the risk of catching a cold outweighs the benefits of "KISSING IS AWESOME" and because the body doesn't NEED kissing and because you like to be in control of the blood levels in your dick at all times?

[ashman]

Haha Check this out, 'care homes for Terrorists'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7496375.stm

[spitfirejunky]

That probably owes to compounds in some alcoholic beverages that promote cardiac health, not ethyl alcohol itself.

Furthermore

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/377381.stm

Well yes. No one drinks pure ethanol and many of these compounds can't be salvaged without the formation of alcohol anyway. And the study doesn't show that moderate alcohol consumption is unhealthy. So moderation is still good.

And I can prop up a ton of more recent, conflicting studies. The general consensus is that old people benefit the most from moderate alcohol consumption, while people in top shape generally experience no benefits. This is probably due to how it mitigates health risks like high blood pressure. But I'm no biochemist, I just remember doing in-depth research on this a while back.

[Iskandar]

I don't like beer. Do your worst.

[Mr. Ron]

stupid head!

[Iskandar]

That's your worst?

[Der Übermensch]

I don't like beer. Do your worst.

I agree for the most part, but there are some quality brews out there... :chug:

[Mr. Ron]

yeah :(

@ alex

[1338 h4x0r]

1338 would you not kiss girls because the risk of catching a cold outweighs the benefits of "KISSING IS AWESOME" and because the body doesn't NEED kissing and because you like to be in control of the blood levels in your dick at all times?

I'm rarely ill but, regardless, the risk function here would more take into account the probability of getting involved in vapid conversations and being forced to do things I don't want to do.

Well yes. No one drinks pure ethanol and many of these compounds can't be salvaged without the formation of alcohol anyway.

Which ones? Isoflavonoids, for instance, aren't only in wine.


And I can prop up a ton of more recent, conflicting studies. The general consensus is that old people benefit the most from moderate alcohol consumption, while people in top shape generally experience no benefits.

Well, I walked six miles today in hot weather with a shitload of books on my back. I'm going to have to walk back six miles once again. It's something I do around three times a week. I should probably try to put on more mass, but with respect to cardiovascular function and muscle tone, I'm healthy as a horse.

[Der Übermensch]

Haha Check this out, 'care homes for Terrorists'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7496375.stm

Wow! Be interesting if it continues to show success in the long run...

[Iskandar]

I just got a $60 rebate from Big Government. What should I blow it on?

[1338 h4x0r]

You should probably donate it to the Barack Obama campaign, he wants to t'k away urr g'ns and I understand that Big G'v'r'm'nt likes to t'k urr g'ns away.

[Iskandar]

Too mainy vaawls in that thur sin'nce.

[1338 h4x0r]

Them w'tb'cks t'k urrrrrrgh jobs!

[Dr Hooch]

I'm rarely ill but, regardless, the risk function here would more take into account the probability of getting involved in vapid conversations and being forced to do things I don't want to do.

well then let's extend the question one step trouserwards

[guitrguy]

spend it on drugs so you can perpetuate a conservative misconception.

[Der Übermensch]

I just got a $60 rebate from Big Government. What should I blow it on?


Drugs 'n' hookers

[Dr Hooch]

spend it on imported goods

you owe it to yourself

[guitrguy]

and china

[Der Übermensch]

Spend it on a gun, which you then use to overthrow the government!
That'll teach em :p

[Invicta_Veritas]

spend it on drugs so you can perpetuate a conservative misconception.

Whoa, wait. It's wrong to think that streets rampantly full of drugs are a bad thing? How so? And that's not a conservative issue, tbh.

[spitfirejunky]

Which ones? Isoflavonoids, for instance, aren't only in wine.

That's not what I meant. Alcohol is necessarily formed along with those other compounds. That it's there poses no risk to someone only willing to enjoy the other compounds.

It's no less healthy for your body to get antioxidants from wine than it is from grapes.

[Iskandar]

Spend it on a gun, which you then use to overthrow the government!
That'll teach em :pA gun for $60?

[Der Übermensch]

A mil-surp rifle can often be found for under 100. My mosin was 80.

[Mr. Ron]

down payment


A mil-surp rifle can often be found for under 100. My mosin was 80.

I own the M44 version of the nagant :chug:

[Iskandar]

A mil-surp rifle can often be found for under 100. My mosin was 80.Mein gott. Even in Canada?

Though it's moot because there are few things I'd find less use for than a gun.

[guitrguy]

I would go to a shooting range.

[Iskandar]

I have little interest in hunting and shooting ranges sound boring, frankly. I'd rather play paintball.

[guitrguy]

Hunting sounds boring especially when I here about hunters sitting in tree stands for hours with out taking a shot.

[Iskandar]

Hunting sounds boring especially when I here about hunters sitting in tree stands for hours with out taking a shot.Sounds kind of relaxing, though.

[Der Übermensch]

I own the M44 version of the nagant :chug:

Heh. I later found out mine is a very rare Finnish model M27, and normally would have gone for like 300 8-)

[Iskandar]

I only like it because it's Finnish. I don't know anything about guns.

[guitrguy]

Sounds kind of relaxing, though.

I'd rather sit back in heated or cooled building, depending on the season, with a beer and good music to relax.

[Iskandar]

I'd rather sit back in heated or cooled building, depending on the season, with a beer and good music to relax.I don't like beer, but I like forests.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I like beer and forests.

[Already_Taken]

its all about nailin that buck right between the eyes. that makes the hours of sittin there worth it.

[dei]

It's all about nailin' yr mum whilst you and your pops are out hunting.

[guitrguy]

I'd rather nail a mum than a buck.

[Already_Taken]

yeah but then id come back and id have a gun. whod be da bitch then?

[guitrguy]

I'd nail you right in between the eyes.

[Already_Taken]

not before i shot you in the kneecap >=[

[guitrguy]

My peepee would still be working.

[Already_Taken]

yeah i am pretty attractive, especially when im carrying a gun.

[guitrguy]

especially your glabella.

[Smokey D]

Regardless, dipset

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/377381.stm



Er, that's from 1999.

:lol:

You're starting from the position that keeping the body 100% free of anything remotely toxic all the time is good. I don't know if evidence supports that.

Because being in any altered state of consciousness upsets me. I like to be in control.

Okay but how would you know?

I know that, too, because I talk with Swedish people on MSN, in Swedish. I'm well aware of Scandinavian drinking habits, and disapprove.

That's why I said 'Teutonic stereotypes'. I like living up to them.

I thought you said you were rational but here you are buying into arbitrary and made up stereotypes.

A lot of 'em are just regular-*** weed smokers.

I doubt it.

Plus I know a good deal people who have either gotten busted or come very close. Alright, that's anecdotal but, still, I don't break laws unless I'm absolutely sure I won't get caught and then only if the penalty is light.

Getting busted isn't getting a prison sentence.

Many police officers in this country. :lol:

What?

It does give me the will to resist people (not you btw) who attempt to force their opinions on me and in many cases allows me to seek lawful retaliation.

Resisting people for the sake of resisting them is pretty silly, really.

Besides, my instincts are more oriented towards survival than enjoyment. I wouldn't say I live a joyless existence, but I still find the world very confusing, oppressive and dangerous. As such, I have to be ready to fight against it in a lot of cases.

Survival and enjoyment are highly correlated.

Because it's stupid.

Why?

[1338 h4x0r]

well then let's extend the question one step trouserwards

I don't grant h4x0r Minor any voting privileges because he isn't very bright.

It's no less healthy for your body to get antioxidants from wine than it is from grapes.

Thanks, I agree wholeheartedly.

Er, that's from 1999.

It's no less valid for its age.

You're starting from the position that keeping the body 100% free of anything remotely toxic all the time is good. I don't know if evidence supports that.

Maybe not, but that doesn't mean I'm inclined to drink anyway. I'm ashamed of friends and family when they're inebriated and it stands to reason that I wouldn't feel any differently towards my self.

Okay but how would you know?

Not being fully aware of my surroundings is highly upsetting. I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say this.

I thought you said you were rational but here you are buying into arbitrary and made up stereotypes.

But I have good reason. In my experience, if I can give people the impression that I will either ax-murder them or attempt to run them down with a truck if they so much as fart too loudly, they'll give me grudging respect and stay out of my way.

And the way I do this is by living up to stereotypes appropriate for my ethnic background and trade. Incidentally, I can't pull that image off if I'm staggering around saying "I'm not as think as you drunk I am."

Getting busted isn't getting a prison sentence.

Yeah, getting manhandled by the pigs in a strange concrete building isn't so great either. I'll call being deprived of weed or shrooms a bargain in that case.

What?

See above.

Resisting people for the sake of resisting them is pretty silly, really.

I tend to resist people when they question everything I do, no matter how harmless.


Survival and enjoyment are highly correlated.


Enjoyment and being left the **** alone are also highly correlated.

Why?

Alcohol would give me no health benefits and, regardless, I 'get high' everyday through exertion. Through an (earned) narcotic dose no less!

[Iskandar]

Man, lighten up.

[1338 h4x0r]

Du meinst 'ja'
Und ich denk' 'nein!'

[Iskandar]

Laa a'rif ul-Almaniyyah.

[1338 h4x0r]

Allemagne?

I don't know the rest of it

That's a cute loan word though.

[guitrguy]

I have gas, again.

[Smokey D]

It's no less valid for its age.

It's less valid for the wealth of evidence that's come out in the last 10 years disputing the conclusion.

Maybe not, but that doesn't mean I'm inclined to drink anyway. I'm ashamed of friends and family when they're inebriated and it stands to reason that I wouldn't feel any differently towards my self.

This is what is bugging me, really.

You say that you have deeply personal reasons against drinking, that you feel a loss of control is highly upsetting or whatever. I haven't worked out whether you actually do have Aspergers or something but I don't think that it's necessary for you to have come to that conclusion. I can see how lots of people would be made uncomfortable by a lack of control. When I've been very drunk, I've hated the lack of control.

But then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like "I'm ashamed of my friends when they drink". Like it's a great moral failing.


But I have good reason. In my experience, if I can give people the impression that I will either ax-murder them or attempt to run them down with a truck if they so much as fart too loudly, they'll give me grudging respect and stay out of my way.


That's not respect.


And the way I do this is by living up to stereotypes appropriate for my ethnic background and trade. Incidentally, I can't pull that image off if I'm staggering around saying "I'm not as think as you drunk I am."

There's a lot ways to pull off being a badass mother****er without playing up some false Teutonic stereotype.


Yeah, getting manhandled by the pigs in a strange concrete building isn't so great either. I'll call being deprived of weed or shrooms a bargain in that case.

This happens to like 1% of people who smoke weed and only then if you're an idiot and smoke it in a park or something.


I tend to resist people when they question everything I do, no matter how harmless.

Well this comes back to you thinking you're better than your friends and by association everyone who doesn't drink.


Alcohol would give me no health benefits and, regardless, I 'get high' everyday through exertion. Through an (earned) narcotic dose no less!

It gives lots of health benefits. Endorphines are no where near as potent as manufactured highs.

[Iskandar]

Allemagne?

I don't know the rest of it

That's a cute loan word though.NEG.1STSING.know.IMP.DEFAllemannic.

"I don't know German."
(IMP means imperfective here.)

[guitrguy]

It gives lots of health benefits. Endorphines are no where near as potent as manufactured highs.

troof

[Iskandar]

Now, I made coffee, but I have no milk. Where's the justice in that?

[guitrguy]

be a man, drink it black.

[1338 h4x0r]

It's less valid for the wealth of evidence that's come out in the last 10 years disputing the conclusion.

At this point, I don't really care to argue about it anymore.

I don't feel that I will gain anything from drinking, so can't you just let me be? I'm not telling you what you should do!


You say that you have deeply personal reasons against drinking, that you feel a loss of control is highly upsetting or whatever. I haven't worked out whether you actually do have Aspergers or something but I don't think that it's necessary for you to have come to that conclusion.

Clinical, not self-diagnosis. I hadn't even heard of it beforehand tbh.


But then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like "I'm ashamed of my friends when they drink". Like it's a great moral failing.


I can't help how I feel. I tend to turn my back and tug at my hair so the reaction is pretty severe. If I could do something about it I would, because I don't like to express strong emotions anyway.


That's not respect.


It's close enough.


There's a lot ways to pull off being a badass mother****er without playing up some false Teutonic stereotype.


Regardless, it's fun, and I'm good at it.

This happens to like 1% of people who smoke weed and only then if you're an idiot and smoke it in a park or something.

But how will I be a spendthrift if I have to spend money on weed every two or three weeks?

Well this comes back to you thinking you're better than your friends and by association everyone who doesn't drink.

This makes no sense.

Vedic self-conquest ftw

It gives lots of health benefits. Endorphines are no where near as potent as manufactured highs.

Yes, but they're not earned.

[Iskandar]

be a man, drink it black.Blacker than Obama, at least. He's coffee with one part cream!

[guitrguy]

Blacker than Obama, at least. He's coffee with one part cream and a whole lot of sugar.

sounds like what I want for prez.

[guitrguy]

Yes, but they're not earned.

There is still action needed to achieve them.

[Smokey D]

I don't feel that I will gain anything from drinking, so can't you just let me be? I'm not telling you what you should do!

A) Discussion is interesting.
B) I object to your presumption of moral superiority because I drink.


Clinical, not self-diagnosis. I hadn't even heard of it beforehand tbh.

I meant the conclusion of not enjoying losing control.

I can't help how I feel. I tend to turn my back and tug at my hair so the reaction is pretty severe. If I could do something about it I would, because I don't like to express strong emotions anyway.

Okay but that's stupid.

But how will I be a spendthrift if I have to spend money on weed every two or three weeks?

I never said you had to indulge all the time.


Yes, but they're not earned.

I disagree. If I'm at university 40 hours or more a week, I think I've earned the right to get drunk on Fridays.

[1338 h4x0r]

@ guitrguy

*sigh*

Yeah I guess setting up the hydroponics lab counts as some kind of effort. Regardless, the Indo-European ascetic outlook I have would consider using 'artificial' drugs an easy way out and cheaply manipulative.

A) Discussion is interesting.
B) I object to your presumption of moral superiority because I drink.

A) To a point.
B) Dipset.

I meant the conclusion of not enjoying losing control.

It's fairly common.

Okay but that's stupid.

If I could just make an expressionless face like usual, I would. Unfortunately I can't.


I never said you had to indulge all the time.


Once every two or three weeks isn't all the time and is apparently average among non-slacker weed smokers.

I disagree. If I'm at university 40 hours or more a week, I think I've earned the right to get drunk on Fridays.

University is a privilege not a burden.

[guitrguy]

*sigh*

Yeah I guess setting up the hydroponics lab counts as some kind of effort. Regardless, the Indo-European ascetic outlook I have would consider using 'artificial' drugs an easy way out and cheaply manipulative.

and been happening before recorded history.

[Smokey D]

You know you can do things to earn stuff without actually making it yourself, right?

Also, Europeans have been getting drunk for thousands of years. I don't know where you got this idea of the European ascetic from.

[1338 h4x0r]

Read up:

http://intyoga.online.fr/signif.htm

Specifically

Intrinsically, in its most fundamental sense, Arya means an effort or an uprising and overcoming. The Aryan is he who strives and overcomes all outside him and within him that stands opposed to the human advance. Self-conquest is the first law of his nature. He overcomes earth and the body and does not consent like ordinary men to their dullness, inertia, dead routine and tamasic limitations. He overcomes life and its energies and refuses to be dominated by their hungers and cravings or enslaved by their rajasic passions. He overcomes the mind and its habits, he does not live in a shell of ignorance, inherited prejudices, customary ideas, pleasant opinions, but knows how to seek and choose, to be large and flexible in intelligence even as he is firm and strong in his will.

Well, to be honest, I'm more like the evil Asura who does many penances but is still really mean.

[Smokey D]

@ guitrguy

*sigh*

[quote]B) Dipset.

What is dipset?

It's fairly common.

Yes that's what I said.

If I could just make an expressionless face like usual, I would. Unfortunately I can't.

It's not making facial expressions. It's what you're thinking.

Once every two or three weeks isn't all the time and is apparently average among non-slacker weed smokers.

Even if that's true that doesn't mean you need to smoke once every three weeks. You could smoke once every 6 months.

University is a privilege not a burden.

What does that have to do with how much work I do?


Intrinsically, in its most fundamental sense, Arya means an effort or an uprising and overcoming. The Aryan is he who strives and overcomes all outside him and within him that stands opposed to the human advance. Self-conquest is the first law of his nature. He overcomes earth and the body and does not consent like ordinary men to their dullness, inertia, dead routine and tamasic limitations. He overcomes life and its energies and refuses to be dominated by their hungers and cravings or enslaved by their rajasic passions. He overcomes the mind and its habits, he does not live in a shell of ignorance, inherited prejudices, customary ideas, pleasant opinions, but knows how to seek and choose, to be large and flexible in intelligence even as he is firm and strong in his will.

I though you wanted to be German not a Hindu holy man.

[guitrguy]

dipset is some term a rap group uses and has become a running joke in R&M.

[Iskandar]

I vote we start a new community thread.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Read up:

http://intyoga.online.fr/signif.htm

Specifically



Well, to be honest, I'm more like the evil Asura who does many penances but is still really mean.
This guy sounds like an asshole.

[Smokey D]

You guys are meant to be coming up with a name.

[spitfirejunky]

I still like the title of this thread, even though it is kinda old.

[Iskandar]

How about, "The PWNI Community Thread"?

[guitrguy]

PNWI Commune: Come for Post Redistribution.


lol alex you spelled it wrong.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Changing the title would be the worst thing ever. Also if anybody but Tway started a new one it would be the worst thing ever. Again.

[Iskandar]

Tway was a twat. I don't care if he started this one.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Is he dead or something?

[Iskandar]

Don't know, don't care. He was my nemesis.

[spitfirejunky]

He'll be back. He always comes back.

[guitrguy]

No but not that he'd be sorely missed if he did.

[Iskandar]

I remember when I was a communist or something, and Tway became a neoliberal and trolled me all the time.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Where did he go? He posted like 20 minutes ago.

[spitfirejunky]

I remember when tway used proper punctuation.

[Dave de Sylvia]

no u don't

[spitfirejunky]

o rly

[Iskandar]

He never posts in PWNI anymore except to tell people that voting doesn't matter.

What an annoying little weasel.

[guitrguy]

I remember when his pic leaked onto the internet.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Of all the weaselish things to say!

[spitfirejunky]

Bring back Fenwood and Zoroaster.

[Iskandar]

I have to admit, I have never been fond of this "Sylvia Plath" character, or whoever he was. Doubtlessly Irish.

[Smokey D]

Tway's awesome.

[guitrguy]

Bring back Fenwood and Zoroaster.

especially fenwood.

He always made my day.

[Iskandar]

Tway's awesome.I groan. Not you too.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I have to admit, I have never been fond of this "Sylvia Plath" character, or whoever he was. Doubtlessly Irish.
Probably Indo-Europe ascetic.

[guitrguy]

lol

I groan. Not you too.

dw babe, I'm not

[Reaganista]

i am awesome

[Dave de Sylvia]

i love you

[Smokey D]

I groan. Not you too.

What's not to like?

[Amit]

my favorite posters are tway, smokey, splath, the one with the guy from scarface, the periodic table of sex positions, and the one with the big che guevara face

[Iskandar]

What's not to like?Let's start with what there is to like about him.

[1338 h4x0r]

What is dipset?

Dipset is

Livin' fast and ballin' at X-mas time

Yes that's what I said.

Extreme aversion to loss of self-control is common with autism.

Which is probably why 'nerds' are often seen as being averse to drugs. The personality traits are closely linked.

It's not making facial expressions. It's what you're thinking.

Well I mean to say that I can't help what I feel, unfortunately. I really wish I could.


Even if that's true that doesn't mean you need to smoke once every three weeks. You could smoke once every 6 months.


So if I take the limit, I don't have to smoke at all right?

What does that have to do with how much work I do?

I don't consider school the same as work but you're entitled to your own opinions. (So am I.)

I though you wanted to be German not a Hindu holy man.

The two cultures are linked in very meaningful ways. You can compare lots of mythological threads for starters, which is the most interesting part. For example, it's been suggested that Sleipnir—the horse Odin uses to carry the dead to Hel—probably has eight freakish legs because the bier was carried by four men by ancient Indians. Plus, German is probably the only modern European language that uses cognates for 'atman' to refer to breath and, metaphorically, the spirit.

Granted, those aren't the most significant connections in the world, but these things get distorted over time and you have to look at every thread to get a meaningful picture. I couldn't possibly exhaust or even summarize all the work that's been done on this issue in a paragraph.

And, yes, I know full well that 'real people' from Britain to East Bengal get smashed all the time, but the fact is that asceticism is an undercurrent in much of the shared Indo-European culture and I just happen to act on it explicitly.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Let's start with what there is to like about him.
We've already established that the answer is everything.

[Iskandar]

We've already established that the answer is everything.He's about as likable as a mosquito, which he greatly resembles.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I think you might have clicked on the link to a picture of the mosquito instead of the picture of Tway that was circulating.

[Iskandar]

NP: Big Pimpin'

[Reaganista]

i love u 2

[Mr. Ron]

I have his pic

[Reaganista]

i have my pic

[Smokey D]

Extreme aversion to loss of self-control is common with autism.

Which is probably why 'nerds' are often seen as being averse to drugs. The personality traits are closely linked.

Did you just call all nerds autistic?

As I say I have nothing against you disliking a lack of control. That's not the bone of my contention.

Well I mean to say that I can't help what I feel, unfortunately. I really wish I could.

Then you understand why I am compelled to feel that the way you feel is stupid.


So if I take the limit, I don't have to smoke at all right?

No, coz then you miss out on the smoking part.

I don't consider school the same as work but you're entitled to your own opinions. (So am I.)

Whatever. If I'm working in a job 40+ hours a week I've earned a beer.

The two cultures are linked in very meaningful ways.

Maybe if you're part of the Thule movement.

You can compare lots of mythological threads for starters, which is the most interesting part. For example, it's been suggested that Sleipnir—the horse Odin uses to carry the dead to Hel—probably has eight freakish legs because the bier was carried by four men by ancient Indians. Plus, German is probably the only modern European language that uses cognates for 'atman' to refer to breath and the spirit.

You can compare all European religions to aspects of Hindu religions and all European languages except Basque have cognates with Sanskrit.


Granted, those aren't the most significant connections in the world, but these things get distorted over time and you have to look at every thread to get a meaningful picture. I couldn't possibly exhaust or even summarize all the work that's been done on this issue in a paragraph.

Things get a lot more distorted when you take bullpoop anthropology and try and live your life according to it.


And, yes, I know full well that 'real people' from Britain to East Bengal get smashed all the time, but the fact is that asceticism is an undercurrent in much of the shared Indo-European culture and I just happen to act on it explicitly.

I just don't by into your theories. You're more like a Mennonite than a Viking.


Let's start with what there is to like about him.

Dat sexy ***.

[Mr. Ron]

I have a migraine :(

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm listening to Summoning \m/_:angry:/ \m/_:angry:/ \m/_:angry:/ \m/_:angry:/

[Iskandar]

all European languages except Basque have cognates with Sanskrit.Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian.

[Reaganista]

wats so bad about missing out on smoking ive also missed out on drinking bleach big deal

[Smokey D]

Drinking bleach hurts.

[Mr. Ron]

Tell me about it I accidentally get bleach in my mouth all the time at work

[Reaganista]

i wouldnt know ive missed out on that

[Smokey D]

Ron do you have a problem? Admitting it's not an accident is the first step.

[Mr. Ron]

Ron do you have a problem? Admitting it's not an accident is the first step.

I have a lot of problems.

[Iskandar]

My life is now complete, having seen our resident moderator refer to The Tway as "dat sexy ***."

[1338 h4x0r]

Did you just call all nerds autistic?

No, not strictly, but the two are sure related. Will Wright, His Billness, Richard Stallman, ...


As I say I have nothing against you disliking a lack of control. That's not the bone of my contention.


Alright.


Then you understand why I am compelled to feel that the way you feel is stupid.


Oh well.


No, coz then you miss out on the smoking part.


What if I smoke an infinitesimally small amount of marijuana every day so it adds up to smoking intensely once every six months?

Also I don't like having foreign **** in my lungs.


Whatever. If I'm working in a job 40+ hours a week I've earned a beer.


Then have a beer if you feel that way. I'm not going to argue with you.


Maybe if you're part of the Thule movement.


I couldn't be a part of the Thule movement because wiping out the Jews == wiping out a leading source of entertaining technical literature and most of the actors at Muhlenberg College. It's definitely against my self-interest to be a National Socialist.

Still, the sun swastika thing is really cool.


You can compare all European religions to aspects of Hindu religions and all European languages except Basque have cognates with Sanskrit.


But no.

Things get a lot more distorted when you take bullpoop anthropology and try and live your life according to it.

Stereotypes rule.

I just don't by into your theories. You're more like a Mennonite than a Viking.

NO. BOTH. AND A BRAHMAN TOO.

[Smokey D]

That's no reason to start drinking bleach.

[Mr. Ron]

That's no reason to start drinking bleach.

lol nah. We have to pour bleach down the drains and it splatters everywhere and sometimes it gets in my mouth. I any notcied haven't problems.

[Iskandar]

Please say Nazi. "National Socialist" just encourages that persistent myth.

[1338 h4x0r]

Oh, what, that lib'ruls == mass murderers?

[Iskandar]

Oh, what, that lib'ruls == mass murderers?More or less. Fringe libertarians, and Republicans, like to claim that "Nazis were socialist" so that means left wing = fascism.

[Smokey D]

No, not strictly, but the two are sure related.

In the sense that some autistic people are very smart or that autistic people find it difficult to associate?


What if I smoke an infinitesimally small amount of marijuana every day so it adds up to smoking intensely once every six months?

That's probably a lot worse for you and you wouldn't get any enjoyment (well, you would miss out on the narcotic part).

Then have a beer if you feel that way. I'm not going to argue with you.


So aside from the whole loss of control thing, you don't have a problem with the morality of 'earning a high' by using cash earned to purchase the high?

I couldn't be a part of the Thule movement because wiping out the Jews == wiping out a leading source of entertaining technical literature and most of the actors at Muhlenberg College. It's definitely against my self-interest to be a National Socialist.

I don't know why you're buying into Thule type anthropology then.

But no.

Are you serious?

The religion bit is well established (at least as well as the very vague relationship you claim to have found between Vedic Hinduism and German paganism). And I can show you hundreds of English and Latin words with Sanskrit cognates.


NO. BOTH. AND A BRAHMAN TOO.

Does not compute.

Please say Nazi. "National Socialist" just encourages that persistent myth.

National socialism had socialist elements.

[Iskandar]

National socialism had socialist elements.It had capitalist, militarist and racist elements as well. It's still incorrect to categorize it as left-wing. Fascism is essentially of the right.

[1338 h4x0r]

In the sense that some autistic people are very smart or that autistic people find it difficult to associate?

In either sense tbh.

That's probably a lot worse for you and you wouldn't get any enjoyment (well, you would miss out on the narcotic part).

But I would be fulfilling the requirement for consumption.


So aside from the whole loss of control thing, you don't have a problem with the morality of 'earning a high' by using cash earned to purchase the high?


You'd be seriously cheating your nervous system and indeed setting yourself up for a chemical imbalance. I disagree with this habit, but I have a pretty libertarian attitude towards drugs anyway.

I don't know why you're buying into Thule type anthropology then.

A lot of serious scholars buy into what you call 'Thule' anthropology, including Indians.

btw I don't think South Asians came from Northern Europe, if that's what you mean.


Are you serious?


As Iskandar pointed out earlier, there is the whole Finno-Ugric branch, which is pretty broad and only has tangential relations with the Indo-European languages through loans.


The religion bit is well established (at least as well as the very vague relationship you claim to have found between Vedic Hinduism and German paganism). And I can show you hundreds of English and Latin words with Sanskrit cognates.


I used to study them a lot in my free time back when I was more interested in that kind of thing, so I'm well aware of them. In fact I have a notebook with a table full of Sanskrit or Hindi-based words and their English equivalents where applicable.

Of course, some of 'em are kind of ambiguous because you could posit an Arabic or Persian origin. History is very interesting.

Does not compute.

Haha, now you've almost got the hang of it. Just say #doesNotUnderstand in the future.

[Smokey D]

It had capitalist, militarist and racist elements as well. It's still incorrect to categorize it as left-wing. Fascism is essentially of the right.

It was both left and right.


But I would be fulfilling the requirement for consumption.

Consumption isn't the goal.


You'd be seriously cheating your nervous system and indeed setting yourself up for a chemical imbalance. I disagree with this habit, but I have a pretty libertarian attitude towards drugs anyway.


Cheating your nervous system?

A lot of serious scholars buy into what you call 'Thule' anthropology, including Indians.

Well they admit there are connections between Europe and India. But I don't think you'd get much traction saying Germans came from the Iranian steppe.



btw I don't think South Asians came from Northern Europe, if that's what you mean.


The theory goes the other way round.


As Iskandar pointed out earlier, there is the whole Finno-Ugric branch, which is pretty broad and only has tangential relations with the Indo-European languages through loans.

Okay so like 4 out of 45. It's called hyperbole.

[Reaganista]

the whole point was to try to appeal to everybody

[1338 h4x0r]

Regardless, social democracy =/= 12 million dead people

[gregulus]

Ron, I work with bleach on occasion as well and I don't have that problem.


ur dum

[Reaganista]

i do laundry sometimes and i dont have that problem

[gregulus]

oh, and tway is hilarious. so is smokey saying things like "dat sexy ***."

[gregulus]

i do laundry sometimes and i dont have that problem

good point. mr. ron, what the **** are you doing?

[1338 h4x0r]

I chug bleach straight from the bottle and I don't have that problem

[Mr. Ron]

Ron, I work with bleach on occasion as well and I don't have that problem.


ur dum


pansy

[gregulus]

pansy

keep drinking bleach, winner.
:chug::chug::chug:

[Mr. Ron]

lol why did you take that seriously

[gregulus]

lol why did you take that seriously

i didn't :confused:

i fail at internet sarcasm :(

[Mr. Ron]

eh, its ok.

Heres a *hug*

[1338 h4x0r]

moar liek

ur ghey

[gregulus]

eh, its ok.

Heres a *hug*

attn: vf. mr. ron is propositioning me with sexually deviant behavior. i heard this is a sin. confirm/deny.

[Mr. Ron]

I want to be in you

[Reaganista]

mr ron is a cocktease

[1338 h4x0r]

Consumption isn't the goal.

But I'd be smoking weed right?

Cheating your nervous system?

Yeah, like creating imbalances, allowing cannabinoid receptors to become flooded with foreign compounds (may harm hypothalamus btw), etc.


Well they admit there are connections between Europe and India. But I don't think you'd get much traction saying Germans came from the Iranian steppe.


Not directly. Clearly a lot of adaptation took place over time. Much culture was preserved here and there, though it changed as well.


The theory goes the other way round.


Which one?

Am I mistaken in believing that Indo-Europeans migrated from what is now Iran to the west and east?

Okay so like 4 out of 45. It's called hyperbole.

Regardless

Dipset

[Smokey D]

But I'd be smoking weed right?

The act of smoking is completely incidental.


Yeah, like creating imbalances, allowing cannabinoid receptors to become flooded with foreign compounds (may harm hypothalamus btw), etc.

So what? It's not like a girlfriend.

Not directly. Clearly a lot of adaptation took place over time. Much culture was preserved here and there, though it changed as well.


A very very very small amount of culture was preserved and that died out around 1400 years ago.

Which one?

Am I mistaken in believing that Indo-Europeans migrated from what is now Iran to the west and east?

The theory is not that people went from Europe to Asia it's that they came from north west India/Iran to Europe. So no, you're not wrong.

[1338 h4x0r]

The act of smoking is completely incidental.

I don't want foreign **** in my lungs tho.

Inhaling anything that's burning is inherently unsafe because burning releases carbon monoxide. If you think the amount of CO released is negligible consider the fact that airlines disallow pilots from smoking cigarettes something like 12 hours in advance of a flight, because it's apparently been shown that the CO released in smoking anything impairs judgment. And that's definitely not cool.

So what? It's not like a girlfriend.

Yes but there is plenty of scientific research that suggests THC may impair the hypothalamus—which is vital for learning—in the long run.

A very very very small amount of culture was preserved and that died out around 1400 years ago.

I'd say it's latent but more than negligible

The theory is not that people went from Europe to Asia it's that they came from north west India/Iran to Europe. So no, you're not wrong.

Good.

[Reaganista]

have you had the experience of sticking 6 ice cubes up your ***

[Smokey D]

I don't want foreign **** in my lungs tho.

Okay so buy some heroin and shoot up.


Yes but there is plenty of scientific research that suggests THC may impair the hypothalamus—which is vital for learning—in the long run.

It doesn't actually matter which drug you use.

Since we were talking about alcohol and you have to use a lot of alcohol to start affecting any system long term, why don't you start with that.


I'd say it's latent but more than negligible

I don't see it.

have you had the experience of sticking 6 ice cubes up your ***

What does this have to do with anything?

[Reaganista]

it's an experience

[Smokey D]

People can use ice cubes however they want I'm not going to judge them for it.

[Reaganista]

o i missed the begining of this exchange i thought you were coming from a different angle
well anyway

[1338 h4x0r]

Okay so buy some heroin and shoot up.

*cough* false dichotomy


It doesn't actually matter which drug you use.


THC specifically binds to cannabinoid receptors and evidently impairs them.


Since we were talking about alcohol and you have to use a lot of alcohol to start affecting any system long term, why don't you start with that.


Let's not, and say that we did.


I don't see it.


Ok, I can't carry on about it anymore right now.

[Dave de Sylvia]

If you think the amount of CO released is negligible consider the fact that airlines disallow pilots from smoking cigarettes something like 12 hours in advance of a flight, because it's apparently been shown that the CO released in smoking anything impairs judgment.
This sounds like something somebody made up.

[Smokey D]

*cough* false dichotomy

No more false than "I can either smoke or I can use no recreational drugs whatsoever".


THC specifically binds to cannabinoid receptors and evidently impairs them.


There's lots of drugs that don't have THC in it.

And it takes a long time for THC to actually impair function.

[Iskandar]

So, what's your favourite Star Wars movie?

[1338 h4x0r]

Return of the Jedi tbh

This sounds like something somebody made up.

Wrong.

http://www.casa.gov.au/fsa/2001/nov/32-35.pdf

Scroll down to the part about cigarettes.

No more false than "I can either smoke or I can use no recreational drugs whatsoever".

I didn't say that.


There's lots of drugs that don't have THC in it.


I knew.

And it takes a long time for THC to actually impair function.

I sure know how to head it off, too.

[Reaganista]

a new hope

[Smokey D]

So, what's your favourite Star Wars movie?

Star Wars is terrible.

But the best one was Empire Strikes Back.


I didn't say that

Your whole point relies on it.

I sure know how to head it off, too.

Where as more rational people understand that you can in fact have your cake and eat it too.

[Iskandar]

Return of the Jedi suffered from 80s syndrome, but it was pretty good considering that. It couldn't be expected to top The Empire Strikes Back.

Star Wars is terrible.

But the best one was Empire Strikes Back.You score 1 out of 2.

[Reaganista]

use the force luke

[Smokey D]

I don't understand how people fell in love with the bad acting, terrible direction and incestuous plot.

use the force luke

That's funny coz that's my name.

[Reaganista]

these arent the droids youre looking for

[Iskandar]

I don't understand how people fell in love with the bad acting, terrible direction and incestuous plot.What the hell is an "incestuous plot"?

Besides, the cheesiness of Star Wars is part of the appeal. Same as with James Bond, Indiana Jones and a whole bunch of other popular film franchises.

[Smokey D]

What the hell is an "incestuous plot"?

Leia and Luke were more than brother and sister.


Besides, the cheesiness of Star Wars is part of the appeal. Same as with James Bond, Indiana Jones and a whole bunch of other popular film franchises.

*Bad

[1338 h4x0r]

Your whole point relies on it.

nuh uh

Where as more rational people understand that you can in fact have your cake and eat it too.

Are you saying James Randi isn't 'more rational'?

He has the same reason for avoiding drugs that I do.

btw—there is no cake to be had

[Reaganista]

That's funny coz that's my name.
lol
Besides, the cheesiness of Star Wars is part of the appeal. Same as with James Bond, Indiana Jones and a whole bunch of other popular film franchises.

damn this whole time ive been taking it literally

[Smokey D]

Are you saying James Randi isn't 'more rational'?

He has the same reason for avoiding drugs that I do.

I don't know who this James Randi character is but he sounds like a douche.

[1338 h4x0r]

http://skepdic.com/randi.html

also http://skepdic.com/carlos.html

If he's a douche for exposing the public's gullibility, so be it

[Iskandar]

Leia and Luke were more than brother and sister.She kissed him on the cheek once. Jeez. You don't even find out she's his sister until midway through the last film, long after she's hooked up with Han Solo.
*BadThis is why I compare you to a cyborg. Luke? More like Smokey Darth Vader.

[1338 h4x0r]

**** off, I'm the resident cyborg

[Iskandar]

No. I am your father.

[Smokey D]

She kissed him on the cheek once. Jeez. You don't even find out she's his sister until midway through the last film, long after she's hooked up with Han Solo.

You can cut the sexual tension with a lightsaber.

This is why I compare you to a cyborg. Luke? More like Smokey Darth Vader.

Hey I don't blame you for liking bad things. You were a communist after all.

If he's a douche for exposing the public's gullibility, so be it

You say skeptic I say party pooper.

**** off, I'm the resident cyborg

Oh please.

[Reaganista]

if u strike me down i shall become more powerful than u can possibly imagine

[1338 h4x0r]

You say skeptic I say party pooper.

Some parties definitely deserve to be pooped.

Especially when they're hoaxes deliberately made up to show the public that they are indeed asses.

Oh please.

Dipset Systems Model 101

[Iskandar]

You can cut the sexual tension with a lightsaber.Look, I know Carrie Fisher was kind of cute back then, and Mark Hamill wasn't bad either. But that was 30 years ago. Give up the dream.
Hey I don't blame you for liking bad things. You were a communist after all.What do you mean, were?

[1338 h4x0r]

Goddamn Commies

[Smokey D]

Some parties definitely deserve to be pooped.

Especially when they're hoaxes deliberately made up to show the public that they are indeed asses.

The fact that you want to base your life off a party magician saddens me.


Look, I know Carrie Fisher was kind of cute back then, and Mark Hamill wasn't bad either. But that was 30 years ago. Give up the dream.

I've met Mark Hamill.

What do you mean, were?

Look, I know Marx was kinda cute back then and Engels wasn't bad either. But it was 120 years ago. Give up the dream.