PNWI Community Thread version 3.0 (KEEP REFRIGERATED AT ALL TIMES)

[mph4ever]

eh, why would the potential for an 'istorical thread like the one on jessie be closed? and i am only asking, heaven forbid that i would contest such a thing

[Akira]

The whole thread was in a little too poor of taste, I guess.

The man doesn't deserve better, but whatever.

[mph4ever]

yeah, it may have started out poor but it had potential

[Hababi]

not really

[PerpetualBurn]

Functioning anarchism would be that much closer if people like you were willing to work towards it instead of sitting around dreaming about it and trying to find easier alternatives.

Maybe your problem lies in that only an insignificantly small part of the population think anarchy would be a good idea?

Because I don't think anybody other than you and a few others "sit around and dream about it".

[Iscariot]

anarchy is a terrible idea on a large scale

[Dr Hooch]

anarchists are rubbish i have never once met an anarchist never mind had one try to convince me

if 90% of people still think you're just rioters and hedonists

well dude

you got bigger worries than class war

[Invicta_Veritas]

Anarchy is just like Communism...the ideal works on paper but never functions in a real-world setting....or it does and it fails miserably.

[Already_Taken]

absolutely

that is to say

zero

if you don't vote you can't complain.

if you do vote it counts infinitely more than if you don't.

[Invicta_Veritas]

What's your theory though if you adamantly do not support any of the candidates?

[Already_Taken]

vote for the one you hate less. It is impossible that anyone will agree with anyone else on 100% of things, but vote for the person who you feel will make the country better for you.

it seems like common sense to me.

[Iscariot]

if you don't vote then your opinion doesn't matter

this is how i feel anyway

i always get pissed off when i hear someone whining about current political affairs and how much they hate the current officials and w/e else and i ask them, "well who did you vote for?" and they respond with, "i didn't vote it's a waste of time"

/facepalm

[Already_Taken]

it is selfish too. over the course of time billions of people have lived. and i don't have a source, but I'm willing to guess that the vast majority of them had no say in their government. we have infinitely more say than they did, and some people choose not to use it, then still complain? ingrates.

they should be sent to live in North Korea for the next president's term if you ask me.

[Futue te Ipsum]

well, really, they do have a point. The idea that an outcome will change because you voted is pretty damn naive. Ignoring that, I think that abstaining from voting sends a clear and important message to politicians that you shouldn't really belittle. My right to vote is very important to me, but I have little desire to do it purely because of how bad the available options are. Last general election I voted MRLP simply because I had labour privatising education and healthcare, and on the other hand the conservatives who would probably do the same... only faster. People shouldn't have to vote for the party they hate the least... that's just utter BS.

[Already_Taken]

were you the one bitching about how you can't criticize something unless you have a better solution? you're an idiot.

[Iscariot]

well, really, they do have a point. The idea that an outcome will change because you voted is pretty damn naive.

too many people with this mindset are the reason that those of us who do vote can't accomplish anything

do you not see the faulty logic behind the idea that you shouldn't vote because it won't get anything done

how does that even make sense

[Invicta_Veritas]

were you the one bitching about how you can't criticize something unless you have a better solution? you're an idiot.

No, that was me. :wave:

I do have a better solution to Obama....it's McCain. I also have a better solution to McCain, but I don't have the power to overhaul the entire U.S. political system, so I'll have to settle for McCain.

I haven't voted in the past presidential elections though, for the reasons he stated and more. I don't believe in voting for the lesser of two evils, because you're still supporting something you don't approve of and that's hypocritical. In this case, however, it is my opinion that Obama is certain disaster, therefore I am willing (albeit cautiously) to vote for McCain).

[1338 h4x0r]

not really

jealous_comments_by_steve++;

[Der Übermensch]

What's your theory though if you adamantly do not support any of the candidates?

Write in my name! :chug:

[Mr. Ron]

So, anyone hear about how a judge gave Viacom the ability to get all of your information from google and various other websites if they ask for it?






if you don't vote you can't complain.

if you do vote it counts infinitely more than if you don't.

What? Yes you can.

[Der Übermensch]

Not like Google wasn't already using it for nefarious purposes...

[Mr. Ron]

True, but they can legally do it now. One conglomerate having the ability to search for anything I've ever downloaded, deleted, viewed and searched is pretty scary.

[Der Übermensch]

All they will learn about me is I like porn. Big whoop.

[Mr. Ron]

yeah, the most scandalous thing I do on the internet is pr0nz

[1338 h4x0r]

Even if I were a terrorist, the gubbermint would eventually get too tired of looking at 50 Hitler posts and bree jokes to notice.

[Mr. Ron]

breeeee-eee-eeee-reeeeee

[1338 h4x0r]

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/2/2f/Ascii_50_hitlers.gif

[Invicta_Veritas]

I got to 46 and got bored. What happens? Lol.

[Iscariot]

So, anyone hear about how a judge gave Viacom the ability to get all of your information from google and various other websites if they ask for it?

who cares?

"my god.. this kid has watched through the fire and flames 15 times this week! call in the national guard, we're taking this son of a bitch down :mad: "


What? Yes you can.

if you aren't participating in the system and trying to shape the things in a way that makes your life here more pleasant, then you don't get to complain about the things you don't like

try to make a change or stfu

[Amit]

if you aren't participating in the system and trying to shape the things in a way that makes your life here more pleasant, then you don't get to complain about the things you don't like

of course you get to

are you being silly again

[Iscariot]

ok let me rephrase

you can but no one gives a **** what your opinion is if you're too lazy to vote

[Amit]

ok let me rephrase

you can but no one gives a **** what your opinion is if you're too lazy to vote

there's a difference between being too lazy to vote and understanding why participating in a pointless civic process is a waste of time

this is only on the presidential level of course

[Iscariot]

i'm talking more along the lines of local government

people around where i live are so goddamn lazy i want to kill them all

in oregon when we get a 40% turnout at the polls for any given election it's considered record numbers

if these idiots don't want democracy they should just hand the reins over to me and let me turn this state into the fiery destructive dictatorship i've always dreamed of

[Amit]

lulz yeah it's pathetic

[Iscariot]

in other news, i just went potty all by myself

and i only got a little bit on the toilet seat

:)

[Amit]

Usa!!!!

[Iscariot]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EOc6wv9s1wA !!

[Dr Hooch]

Add democracy to your list

I'd like a definition of "functions" or "works" with regards to political systems please

[Iscariot]

.-.

[Iscariot]

canned juice is good for pretty much ever, right?

i've had a big can of grapefruit juice in my cupboard for about a year and i finally put it in a juice pitcher tonight and stuck it in the fridge

however i'm wondering - if i drink it, will i die?

[Amit]

you should just make a thread about it where it can be properly handled!

[Iscariot]

that is a fantastic idea!

[1338 h4x0r]

that video sucked

[Iscariot]

git owt

[1338 h4x0r]

btw I booed the fireworks display

[Iscariot]

fireworks rawk

i stepped out back for a smoke earlier this evening and everything outside was blanketed in thick smoke and all i could see were flashes of light and i could hear booms and pops all over the place

i felt like i was back in simulated combat training in the army again

[1338 h4x0r]

I read a book and took pulls from a jug of juice throughout the fireworks show

they suck because they're not loud enough and don't injure or kill enough people

[Iscariot]

this is why i like to turn average fireworks in lethal explosives

take five m-1000's, wrap them together in a massive wad of duct tape, light the fuse and run like hell

i guarantee the nearest car windows will be blown out and i've even seen street lights shatter halfway the down the block from one of these

[Amit]

lol

[Iscariot]

they're great too if you know someone with post-traumatic stress disorder because you can throw it on the ground and scream "grenade!" and chances are they'll dive onto it

[Amit]

bahahahah

[1338 h4x0r]

page 666

btw

Heil Satan

[dei]

Hail Satan!

[Hababi]

No it's page 333.

[Der Übermensch]

Sorry 1338, but Steve is right :p

[PerpetualBurn]

Not really though.

[Mr. Ron]

who cares?

"my god.. this kid has watched through the fire and flames 15 times this week! call in the national guard, we're taking this son of a bitch down :mad: "




if you aren't participating in the system and trying to shape the things in a way that makes your life here more pleasant, then you don't get to complain about the things you don't like

try to make a change or stfu
So if I think that all the candidates are large piles of **** that will offer the country nothing and I don't feel like throwing my vote away, I can't voice my concerns over the job their doing?

[Already_Taken]

no you can move to a country you feel would suit you better. last i checked we all have computers and internet, so we're doing alright.

[ashman]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7491278.stm

This made me giggle.

Especially when he says stuff about Free speech while some dude is being carried away :lol:

[Dave de Sylvia]

God, it takes some amount of talent to attend an event with George Bush and actually prove yourself to be the dumbest person there.

[Invicta_Veritas]

God, it takes some amount of talent to attend an event with George Bush and actually prove yourself to be the dumbest person there.

GWB isn't the smartest tool in the shed, but he's not a complete idiot. People just bash him because he's very convicted in what he does, whether peple think it's right or not, and he's very stubborn.

By no means am I a Bush supporter, but he doesn't deserve nearly the flak he usually gets.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I wasn't talking about Bush.

[mph4ever]

GWB isn't the smartest tool in the shed, but he's not a complete idiot. People just bash him because he's very convicted in what he does, whether peple think it's right or not, and he's very stubborn.

By no means am I a Bush supporter, but he doesn't deserve nearly the flak he usually gets.


i find it hard to think of something that he does not deserve flak for

[mph4ever]

how do i know if posts i think i posted are deleted?

[Invicta_Veritas]

I wasn't talking about Bush.

Oh. It came off that way, sorry.

[Mr. Ron]

"We believe in free speech in the United States of America!"



"Well, you'll be dragged away for exercising it, but, you know!"

[totah]

Hail Satan.

It's good to be back in blighty. I just had a huge roast pork dinner which is gonna have my vegetarian tummy grumbling for days. so will the bacon tomorrow.

my body isn't used to fat. all we eat in israel is carbohydrates (read: hummus); fat will get you sweaty too quickly, so you need energy without the mess.

[Hababi]

i find it hard to think of something that he does not deserve flak for

How about his developmental aid to Africa, which the Democrats are now basically trying to ignore?

And Ron, freedom of speech doesn't give you a license to disrupt public speeches. Hecklers are idiots.

[Mr. Ron]

How about his developmental aid to Africa, which the Democrats are now basically trying to ignore?

And Ron, freedom of speech doesn't give you a license to disrupt public speeches. Hecklers are idiots.

I know I'm just being an asshole.

[Hababi]

As usual :p

[Dr Hooch]

eran you are the worst vegan

[totah]

How about his developmental aid to Africa, which the Democrats are now basically trying to ignore?

Because Africa has improved so much in recent years, right?

Actually no, because one of the reasons Africa is so messed up right now is Western corporations and local fatcats exploiting the poor workers all over the map (Del Monte's mango plantations, off the top of my head), while the former superpowers flog their outdated 70s weapons to murderous petty-minded fundamentalist militias that go around systematically raping populations to spread HIV.

And Ron, freedom of speech doesn't give you a license to disrupt public speeches. Hecklers are idiots.

You're right, it doesn't. Freedom of protest, however, let's you protest any way you like. Besides, you think if they'd waited for him to finish his sentence they would have been left alone?

eran you are the worst vegan

Yes, yes I am.

:smash: <<<<<< Tenderising hammer.

[Dave de Sylvia]

That's probably the most ridiculously ill-informed caricature of Africa ever. Well, at least since the last time Zero dropped some wisdom on the subject.

[totah]

I left out all the European stuff like bad borders. I did my share of badmouthing the West about Africa back in 2005 when Bono and Saint Geldof made everyone think they were gonna make the G8 save Africa. I did say "one of the reasons". :p

[Hababi]

That's probably the most ridiculously ill-informed caricature of Africa ever. Well, at least since the last time Zero dropped some wisdom on the subject.

:lol: stop referencing 2 year old stuff. I'm the resident expert on Africa.

[Dave de Sylvia]

You were also the resident expert on catering and look how that worked out!

[Hababi]

you didn't like the soufflé?

[Dave de Sylvia]

>_>

[Amit]

<_<

[Hababi]

-_-

[Dethklok1]

hello all

i see i missed page 666

[Reaganista]

zero youre very stupid in case you havent noticed yet

[Dr Hooch]

I work in catering!

My last two jobs have been in catering.

Obviously part time but the current one is seasonal rather than constantly part time so it's like having a real job 3-4 months a year

[Hababi]

zero youre very stupid in case you havent noticed yet

i havent noticed
because it isn't true
i am smarter than you

[1338 h4x0r]

A high bar have you hurdled this day, Steve.

[totah]

Lol, that's one of the more aesthetic sentences I've read so far.

[Hababi]

no OSV sentences plz

[totah]

What's an OSV sentence?

Ostentatiously Silly Vehicles?

[Hababi]

Object-Subject-Verb

A plurality of languages are SOV. Then SVO (eg conventional english).

[1338 h4x0r]

no OSV sentences plz

"A high bar have you hurdled this day, Steve."

'A high bar' — object
'have' — verb
'you' — subject

JHEE-zus fuggen' Christ, Steve, I'm not even a ling. major and already I'm better at this stuff than you.

btw I like that old-timey syntax, it reminds me of the times when it was acceptable for my ancestors to eat babies whole.

[totah]

“Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. Attachment leads to jealously. The shadow of greed, that is.”

This guy is wickedsmart.

[1338 h4x0r]

Sounds like Siddhartha Gautama with the voice of Grover from Sesame Street tbh

[Hababi]

"A high bar have you hurdled this day, Steve."

'A high bar' — object
'have' — verb
'you' — subject

JHEE-zus fuggen' Christ, Steve, I'm not even a ling. major and already I'm better at this stuff than you.

btw I like that old-timey syntax, it reminds me of the times when it was acceptable for my ancestors to eat babies whole.

Hurdled is the verb. Have is a tense marker. Moron. I'm not a linguistics major either, I just have actually studied linguistics, and am not a tool. And your ancestors were neanderthals.

[1338 h4x0r]

Hurdled is the verb. Have is a tense marker. Moron. I'm not a linguistics major either, I just have actually studied linguistics, and am not a tool. And your ancestors were neanderthals.

The sentence I wrote deliberately mimicked German grammar. OVS, Steve. Read and weep:

http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/conf/linc-04/weber.pdf

Your *** has been handed to you.

[Dr Hooch]

steve gave up on linguistics after he found out he'd have to read chomsky.

[totah]

Yaaaaay!

:smash: Haxor Hammer, ancestral heirloom from the Old Country.

[1338 h4x0r]

Dr Hooch — hahahaha

[totah]

Dr. Hooch is a minor token black from Scrubs.

[Hababi]

Your *** has been handed to you.

Says the idiot who said "have" was the verb. You waste oxygen.

[totah]

You waste pretty much everything else, though.

The only thing you wouldn't waste is a noose.

BURN

Tht ws a jking btw

[Hababi]

steve gave up on linguistics after he found out he'd have to read chomsky.

Chomsky's wrong anyway so :o

[totah]

Chomsky's an extremely cunning linguist.

[1338 h4x0r]

Says the idiot who said "have" was the verb. You waste oxygen.

Last time I checked, 'to have' is indeed a verb.

If you want a specific example, again with German, here you go:

http://tinyurl.com/steve-is-a-tit

Notice the construction is labeled as OVS.

You are wrong.

Chomsky's wrong anyway so :o

Odds are the source code of whatever operating system and/or browser you used to write that post was compiled with a compiler that used Chomsky's generative grammar theory to recognize its structure.

I'd go as far as to say that Chomsky is the Newton of formal grammars.

I should really start to keep a tally of the times I've handed your *** to you, Steve.

[Hababi]

Chomsky is overrated as a linguist and disgusting as a human being.

[1338 h4x0r]

My point about generative grammars stands

You've gotten your *** kicked by me again and again, Steve, I don't understand why you don't give up. Your perseverance, at least, is admirable.

[Hababi]

Claiming that 'have' was the verb in that sentence makes you an irredeemable idiot.

[totah]

You know who's a really overrated lay?

Thatcher.

[1338 h4x0r]

Claiming that 'have' was the verb in that sentence makes you an irredeemable idiot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxiliary_verb

Auxiliary verb doesn't mean it's not a verb at all and sure doesn't mean it isn't OVS, Steve.

You can look at the book yourself, all sources confirm what I say.

You are the one who's been left high and dry.

also Noam Chomsky is a great linguist and you're probably using the results of his labor even as you type.

[beso negro]

Hurdled is the verb. Have is a tense marker. Moron. I'm not a linguistics major either, I just have actually studied linguistics, and am not a tool. And your ancestors were neanderthals.

sorry steve but you are wrong on this one

[totah]

You guys are so boring.

If we're gonna be petty, can we at least be petty over more interesting things?

[1338 h4x0r]

I like kicking Steve's *** at every possible opportunity, which is much less petty and more interesting than anarchism

[totah]

Kicking Steve's *** is anarchy in practice.

[1338 h4x0r]

No anarchy at all.

I have found that there are plenty of ways to do bad things to people, all safely within the bounds of the law.

Some are even encouraged for that matter.

[totah]

Like anarchy?

[1338 h4x0r]

Yeah but you get to have sewage treatment, Internet and houses with more than one story with my plan

[Der Übermensch]

WTF!
So, I need to confirm this, but apparently it's illegal in DC to have sex in any position other than missionary...
I'm a felon! Woohoo!

[Dr Hooch]

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/060908/anarchists-in-america.gif

[1338 h4x0r]

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/062808/your-personality-type.gif

genius

[Der Übermensch]

Know what would be the best thing ever? If scientists could prove, with out a doubt, that harvesting plants causes them pain.

Then I'd like to see Vegans decide whether they should starve to death or not.

[totah]

Yeah but you get to have sewage treatment, Internet and houses with more than one story with my plan

You get that with my plan too, except the sewage workers mostly build grey water systems and organic composting toilets. Even as a little kid, a sewage system that depends on water and electricity to work always seemed a silly waste when you can just bury it in the ground.

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/062808/your-personality-type.gif

genius

Indeed it is.


Ubermenschiwitz: I'm pretty sure that on planet Earth you need a nervous system to feel pain, something plants don't got (except certain carnivorous weirdies).

[Der Übermensch]

Well obviously.

I'm just saying it would be hilarious if they could...

[1338 h4x0r]

Know what would be the best thing ever? If scientists could prove, with out a doubt, that harvesting plants causes them pain.

Then I'd like to see Vegans decide whether they should starve to death or not.

That'd be pretty cool tbh.

Combine harvesting sends many field animals to very gruesome deaths every year btw.

You get that with my plan too, except the sewage workers mostly build grey water systems and organic composting toilets. Even as a little kid, a sewage system that depends on water and electricity to work always seemed a silly waste when you can just bury it in the ground.

Under your plan, can I hold an AR-15 in one hand a shotgun in the other and go around killing people?

That would be cool.


Ubermenschiwitz: I'm pretty sure that on planet Earth you need a nervous system to feel pain, something plants don't got (except certain carnivorous weirdies).

Carnivorous plants are non-sapient.

[Dr Hooch]

You get that with my plan too, except the sewage workers mostly build grey water systems and organic composting toilets. Even as a little kid, a sewage system that depends on water and electricity to work always seemed a silly waste when you can just bury it in the ground.

It's good to see that your farsightedness extends well beyond your political aspirations and into the world of engineering



In other news, how are there still cemetaries? It's such a selfish thing to do with a corpse.

[Der Übermensch]

Bentham had the right idea!

[Dr Hooch]

I think you mean Ben.

[Der Übermensch]

Ben?
No, I mean Bentham. Jeremy Bentham. He had is corpse stuffed and put in display in a cabinet.

[totah]

Under your plan, can I hold an AR-15 in one hand a shotgun in the other and go around killing people?

That would be cool.

Depends who you're killing.

Carnivorous plants are non-sapient.

Does feeling pain necessitate sapienity? 'Cos I know there's this one plant that can count. It senses a fly landing on it, and when it counts six legs, it eats it up.

It's good to see that your farsightedness extends well beyond your political aspirations and into the world of engineering

Is that a joke?

Ben?
No, I mean Bentham. Jeremy Bentham. He had is corpse stuffed and put in display in a cabinet.

How does a display cabinet especially for dead people save more space than a grave? I think we should just bury them under trees.

[Der Übermensch]

Because a)being vertical they take up less room then a corpse lying down and b) it eliminates the need for cemeteries, as you can just set it up in the back yard or something.

[Dr Hooch]

Is that a joke?

Pre-roman sewage systems are insufficient for such a densely populated country as ours

60 million turds per day are not all going to get buried in a consequence free way

Ben?
No, I mean Bentham. Jeremy Bentham. He had is corpse stuffed and put in display in a cabinet.

it was a Lost reference, but fine :angry:

[totah]

Because a)being vertical they take up less room then a corpse lying down and b) it eliminates the need for cemeteries, as you can just set it up in the back yard or something.

Yeah but they're vertical in a coffin, innit? And how long would you keep a corpse? If my grandma dies with her husband's corpse already in her bedroom closet, do I need to keep both corpses in mine? I can see indoor space will become a big issue after a few generations.

Pre-roman sewage systems are insufficient for such a densely populated country as ours

I reckon we have the know-how and the technology nowadays to build a less water-dependent system. It's not very pretty, but I liked the Victorian idea of crapping on a bed of coals. That burns away the germs, turns the crap (along with the coal) into an adequate compost agent, and keeps your cheeks nicely warm at the same time. The only problem would be collecting it, but I think that one of the best ways to minimize a city's ecological impact is to turn every available space into a semi-agricultural garden (like they did in Cuba, and that ended up saving their lives) so if people did the work themselves that should sort itself out. An easy option could be to make a big ash skip for every street that would be poured onto the neighbourhood compost heap once a week. Sorry 'bout the long sentences, I'm trying to cut down.

Just as a point of interest, have you ever crapped in an Austrian crapper? They have these above-water shelves midway in the bowl so that you can take a look at your crap, and when you flush the water pushes it off the shelf and into a drain.

[Tyr]

Just as a point of interest, have you ever crapped in an Austrian crapper? They have these above-water shelves midway in the bowl so that you can take a look at your crap, and when you flush the water pushes it off the shelf and into a drain.

They have those in the Czech Republic as well.

[totah]

Well aren't we feeling European today?

[Tyr]

I feel European every day.

[McP3000]

Well aren't we feeling European today?
what is that supposed to mean

[dei]

1338, link me to yr forums.

[Iscariot]

You guys are so boring.

If we're gonna be petty, can we at least be petty over more interesting things?

every time they start arguing over things like linguistics or african culture or w/e else this image pops into my head:

http://www.wiiwii.tv/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/a-nerd.jpg

[1338 h4x0r]

Depends who you're killing.

Everyone.


Does feeling pain necessitate sapienity? 'Cos I know there's this one plant that can count. It senses a fly landing on it, and when it counts six legs, it eats it up.


Venus fly traps are no more sapient than sunflowers.

1338, link me to yr forums.

http://telstar.omgforum.net

[Der Übermensch]

Venus fly traps are no more sapient than sunflowers.
I once had a very meaningful conversation with a sunflower. They are actually quite intelligent if you take the time to get to know them.

[Iscariot]

i saw this engineer on conan the other night talking about the space elevator that's being worked on atm and the more i hear about it the more rad it sounds

[ashman]

Yea it sounds pretty cool.

The only major problem is the fact that you'd have to listen to Muzak for like an hour.

[Dr Hooch]

space elevators are the ****ing bomb

maybe once we have those people will remember war is **** and concentrate their overinflated economies on space exploration and colonisation again

[Reaganista]

they would just play the star wars theme on loop

[Iscariot]

if they played the star wars theme on loop for an hour i'd ride the elevator just for the music

[Dr Hooch]

just get to the top and forget to get out

find a looping partner of similar weight

make a weekend of it

[Tyr]

if they played the star wars theme on loop for an hour i'd ride the elevator just for the musicMe too.

[Iskandar]

Hurdled is the verb. Have is a tense marker. Moron. I'm not a linguistics major either, I just have actually studied linguistics, and am not a tool. And your ancestors were neanderthals.No, 1338 is right. "Have" is an auxillary verb here. The past tense is shown by -ed.

English shows tense by inflection. You're thinking of particles, like Vietnamese or something.

While I'm here, nobody's ancestors are Neanderthals because homo sapiens is only indirectly related to them, and they died out 30 000 years ago.

[Der Übermensch]

Some people theorize they did interbreed though. Not an overly popular theory, but not completly discredited either...

If it did happen, statisticly, almost everyone would have a neaderthal ancestor or two though...

[Iskandar]

Yeah, but even then homo sapiens would be our ancestors, because we would have absorbed the Neanderthals, not the other way around.

[Der Übermensch]

We would still have a Neanderthal ancestor though, even if the majority of our ancestors were not...

[Dr Hooch]

Yeah, but even then homo sapiens would be our ancestors, because we would have absorbed the Neanderthals, not the other way around.

iskandar and the "OM NOM NOM" theory of genetics

[Iskandar]

iskandar and the "OM NOM NOM" theory of geneticswww.omnomnom.com

Under construction.:(

[Dr Hooch]

you mean www.omnomnomnom.com the internet's favourite

[gregulus]

iskandar and the "OM NOM NOM" theory of genetics
I lol'd.

[gregulus]

Some people theorize they did interbreed though. Not an overly popular theory, but not completly discredited either...

If it did happen, statisticly, almost everyone would have a neaderthal ancestor or two though...
Evidence has shown that while some interbreeding may have occurred, it did not occur at any significant level.

[McP3000]

Evidence has shown that while some interbreeding may have occurred, it did not occur at any significant level.
incest is wincest

[Der Übermensch]

Evidence has shown that while some interbreeding may have occurred, it did not occur at any significant level.

Yeah, but at even an insignificant level it would effect almost everyone, as the point at which it is thought we all share a common ancestor is only 2k generations ago, which is 50k years ago or so. So even with only slight interbreeding, the chances of it being in the vast majority of the over all gene pool at this time is pretty good.

[Reaganista]

who cares about any of this stupid ****

[Der Übermensch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Johanson
^ him at least...

[Reaganista]

people keep giving me retarded responses like that when i say who cares about this ****
the point is that anyone who cares about it is wrong it doesnt matter if someone actually does care

[Der Übermensch]

I know... I just like taking you literally.

[Iskandar]

who actually cares what the tway has to say

[totah]

Everyone.

Then no. That is, nobody would stop you trying, but in your shoes I'd expect some heavily-armed resistance that would probably outnumber you XXXXXXXXXXXXXX to 1.

Venus fly traps are no more sapient than sunflowers.

Is a worm sapient? I don't know much about what's intelligent and what's not, but I'm pretty sure you need a nervous system to feel touch-like sensations, in which case you can probably feel pain.

On the other hand, pain is a prerequisite for fight-or-flight instincts, and since a plant can't take flight and in the case of the VFT it can fight in a pretty specific way that should be considered eating more than anything else, there's not really any use for feeling pain, apart from to let the plant know it's being damaged.

i saw this engineer on conan the other night talking about the space elevator that's being worked on atm and the more i hear about it the more rad it sounds

They had one of the only decent Star-Trek: Voyager episodes about space elevators. It sounds like a bad idea to me.

who actually cares what the tway has to say

Probably this guy: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/member.php?u=79848, and if not him, then this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Tway

[gregulus]

who cares about any of this stupid ****

i do, tbh. this is srs biz.

[PerpetualBurn]

I don't know much about what's intelligent and what's not

ITT: I quote out of context because it looks amusing.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Anyone know of a file hosting/upload service that allows you to keep track of how many times the file you uploaded has been downloaded?

[Dave de Sylvia]

mediafire

[Invicta_Veritas]

mediafire

Do you have to have a premium upgrade or any of that nonsense to have this function? I've never noticed it with Mediafire....or maybe I'm blind.

[Dave de Sylvia]

You need to make a free account. Once you're logged in when you upload the file, you can see how many time your files have been downloaded.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Oh, ok. Thanks.

[1338 h4x0r]

English shows tense by inflection. You're thinking of particles, like Vietnamese or something.

Incidentally, Vietnamese forms the present perfect tense with có ('to have'), same as English.

In any case, Steve remains owned.

[Iscariot]

They had one of the only decent Star-Trek: Voyager episodes about space elevators. It sounds like a bad idea to me.

given that your entire opinion seems to be based off of an episode of star trek, i'd be inclined to ask why exactly a space elevator seems like bad idea

[totah]

ITT: I quote out of context because it looks amusing.

Pwned I guess. :(

given that your entire opinion seems to be based off of an episode of star trek, i'd be inclined to ask why exactly a space elevator seems like bad idea

Nah, it worked in Star Trek, though they had to have the cheerfully ugly alien fix things and reminisce about his destroyed home society. I just don't think the idea of a long-arsed elevator shaft connected to a precariously-orbiting space station is a good idea. I think gravity might have a few things to say about that.

I'm no physicist/engineer/college graduate, but it seems to me that something that high-up is gonna catch a lot of wind. And if it's connected to something that relies on the Earth's gravity to stay in a stable position, I can see the wind pushing the shaft about, which could in turn drag the space-station too close towards the planet, and then they'll do an impression of Jack and Jill coming down the hill, but without the hill.

[1338 h4x0r]

Why use real data when you can have feelings about an issue instead?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3401/02.html

[totah]

I read the FAQ section he answered, very interesting. I like the idea of launching vessels off the top of the lift: since it's based in the equator, as the Earth spins you just have to figure out where you want your vessel to go, and then let go of the top end at the right time to get a slinging effect from the spinning shaft. Could be awesome fun, being launched from a planetary-sized sling.

[Der Übermensch]

WOOHOO!!!!! So my super conservative pro-gun letter is almost certainly going to be published in the paper!!!
I just got the phone call asking "did you write it, and was it exclusive?"
I'm super psyched!

[Mr. Ron]

...you're conservative?

[Already_Taken]

Nah, it worked in Star Trek, though they had to have the cheerfully ugly alien fix things and reminisce about his destroyed home society. I just don't think the idea of a long-arsed elevator shaft connected to a precariously-orbiting space station is a good idea. I think gravity might have a few things to say about that.

I'm no physicist/engineer/college graduate, but it seems to me that something that high-up is gonna catch a lot of wind. And if it's connected to something that relies on the Earth's gravity to stay in a stable position, I can see the wind pushing the shaft about, which could in turn drag the space-station too close towards the planet, and then they'll do an impression of Jack and Jill coming down the hill, but without the hill.

Actually wind would play a negligent role in the current design. What they plan on is using a large counterweight and put it in geosynchronous orbit around the earth, then connect the counterweight to the earth with a huge tether. The centripetal force of the earth's rotation will keep tension on the tether, allowing an elevator to go back and forth.

The only hurdle at this point is finding a counterweight (we would probably need to herd an asteroid or something because the weight will need to be massive), and a material with the tensile strength to hold the counterweight to the earth.

[Iskandar]

Incidentally, Vietnamese forms the present perfect tense with có ('to have'), same as English.

In any case, Steve remains owned.
Wait, I thought "I have done X" was past perfect.

[Reaganista]

WOOHOO!!!!! So my super conservative pro-gun letter is almost certainly going to be published in the paper!!!
I just got the phone call asking "did you write it, and was it exclusive?"
I'm super psyched!
im still hoping that u get shot nothing personal ok

[Der Übermensch]

...you're conservative?

I'm pro-gun, which for some strange reason is exclusively a conservative position in the US.


I'm a classical Liberal.

[Dr Hooch]

no a true liberal would respect the rights of an individual to own a gun but decline to excercise said right

[Iscariot]

i'm a liberal who owns maintains and uses firearms

[Der Übermensch]

no a true liberal would respect the rights of an individual to own a gun but decline to excercise said right

Well if you want to split hairs, conservative and liberal are the most absurd words around, as they can be construed to mean just about anything.

[Iskandar]

I'm a classical Liberal.Psh, reactionary.

You used to be a radical, man.

[Dr Hooch]

Well if you want to split hairs, conservative and liberal are the most absurd words around, as they can be construed to mean just about anything.

:lol: i know that

anyway jared you've experienced war dirst hand you're not allowed to be a liberal

[Dr Hooch]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/08/islam.race?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

[Der Übermensch]

Psh, reactionary.

You used to be a radical, man.

I am a radical! Extreme Social Libertarianism and Economic Mutualism are hardly mainstream these days.

I agree I have shifted in view slightly since I was in HS, but Enlightenment era Liberalism has always been at the core of my thought from the onset.

[1338 h4x0r]

Wait, I thought "I have done X" was past perfect.

"I have <verb>" — present perfect
"I had <verb>" — past perfect

AFAIK

[totah]

Actually wind would play a negligent role in the current design. What they plan on is using a large counterweight and put it in geosynchronous orbit around the earth, then connect the counterweight to the earth with a huge tether. The centripetal force of the earth's rotation will keep tension on the tether, allowing an elevator to go back and forth.

The only hurdle at this point is finding a counterweight (we would probably need to herd an asteroid or something because the weight will need to be massive), and a material with the tensile strength to hold the counterweight to the earth.

He said they have (or are near completion of) some kind of ultrasupermighty-fibre that will do the trick for the ribbon.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/08/islam.race?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

That's stupid, for a few reasons, two of which are:

a) a minaret isn't a symbol of political power, it's a symbol that you have the knowhow and resources to build a minaret. And in today's modern society where anyone can hire a construction firm complete with architects, and where religions don't have to pay taxes, I'm not surprised these guys can and want to build one.

b) much like a church steeple, Torah scroll, or hunting rifle, a minaret is a symbol of phallic appreciation.

[1338 h4x0r]

b) much like a church steeple, Torah scroll, or hunting rifle, a minaret is a symbol of phallic appreciation.

Not everything that's more than four times taller than it is wide represents a peen. Get your mind out of the gutter.

[totah]

Actually, I think it does.

[Der Übermensch]

Freud was full of ****.

[totah]

That's just the anal-retentive in you, Freud predicted that.

[Der Übermensch]

Even he knew he was full of ****.

[dei]

Der Übermensch is conservative, he doesn't do anal.

[Der Übermensch]

You can't prove that

[dei]

And you can't prove that you do do anal.

LoL, doo-doo.

[Der Übermensch]

True. I don't talk with my ex anymore, so I doubt I can get her to sign an affidavit or anything.

[Dr Hooch]

a) a minaret isn't a symbol of political power, it's a symbol that you have the knowhow and resources to build a minaret. And in today's modern society where anyone can hire a construction firm complete with architects, and where religions don't have to pay taxes, I'm not surprised these guys can and want to build one.

b) much like a church steeple, Torah scroll, or hunting rifle, a minaret is a symbol of phallic appreciation.

minarets have two uses

mass sleep deprivation

and as sniper positions

[1338 h4x0r]

Actually, I think it does.

Here are a few examples of things that people—usually post-modernists or extreme feminists and other deluded fruitcakes—call 'phallic' to justify their theories:

Spears, swords and staves. They're longer than they are wide because the first two are used to inflict puncture wounds and all three are used as third-class levers, which are inherently useful for destruction. Physics does not make something represent a penis and besides axes, maces and hammers are weapons, too, but I don't see anyone calling them peens. Which is right, because they're not. Form follows function.

Tall buildings. Again a product of the cruel, ambitious patriarchy. Well it turns out that people used to construct huge buildings with really wide bases that didn't look like peens at all, until they realized this approach uses up a lot of material and takes up a lot of space. As engineering improved, it became possible to put up buildings that could be seen over a long distance using less material. Again, form follows function.

I'm really kind of sick of people who make reason coupled with technology look evil and perverse when they are the greatest hopes for our humanity and welfare. I've even heard authors—spouting off about things they know nothing about—say things like "Principia Mathematica should be called Newton's Rape Manual" (no, not making that up) and "solid dynamics are better understood than fluid dynamics because solids represent peens and fluids represent femininity" but, fortunately, every single one of them can easily be ruined with Occam's Razor.

In the latter case, dynamics of solid bodies are understood better simply because the interaction of solid bodies is much easier to understand and predict, as it takes place more or less with a few well-defined components as opposed to many infinitesimal components all affecting each other at once. Fluid dynamics is just mathematically harder to model and besides, it's not like scientists aren't trying.

But the bottom line is: don't blame everything on the Big Bad ****, it makes you look silly.

[Dr Hooch]

:lol:

the fact that you feel the need to argue any of that stuff is just

well

:lol:

[1338 h4x0r]

Well, I've read a lot about negative postmodernist attitudes towards science and logic recently. It pisses me off just as much as shotgun-toting hicks with huge beer guts who think that kids shouldn't learn evolution, which I feel is a fully justifiable response.

[Amit]

minarets have two uses

mass sleep deprivation

and as sniper positions

i love you so much

[Invicta_Veritas]

Not all rednecks reject science, tbh.

[guitrguy]

Well they have to know about it to reject it

[Invicta_Veritas]

Not all rednecks don't know about it.

Stereotyping is a two-way street, my friend.

[Hababi]

the irony in this thread is that just the other day EMH was accusing gtrguy of being a redneck :p

[Invicta_Veritas]

Lol.

[Scr0tum]

And you can't prove that you do do anal.

LoL, doo-doo.

This is why you have no moderating powers.

[dei]

No.

[Scr0tum]

Haha l00k a† m3 guyz ! said d00-d00 lol

[dei]

‪k.

[Scr0tum]

‪k.

See what I mean? So what? You said "do do". Big deal. That is indicative of someone on the emotional level of an 8-yr old.

[dei]

VF, are you this dumb in real life?

[Already_Taken]

he's from tyler texas, so compared to everyone else around him he's normal.

[Scr0tum]

VF, are you this dumb in real life?

Are you this childish in real life or is it only through the anonymity of posting on the internet does your immaturity come out?

Oh l00k guyz I'm a m0∂3ra†or, but ! can't ban any0ne hoohoohoo!

[1338 h4x0r]

VF is going to be the rootinest, tootinest, six-shootinest, spur-bootinest mod in the West

[dei]

Are you this childish in real life or is it only through the anonymity of posting on the internet does your immaturity come out?

Oh l00k guyz I'm a m0∂3ra†or, but ! can't ban any0ne hoohoohoo!

Yes.

[Scr0tum]

he's from tyler texas, so compared to everyone else around him he's normal.

Who told you that? Are you some sort of stalker or something?

[Scr0tum]

VF is going to be the rootinest, tootinest, six-shootinest, spur-bootinest mod in the West

Texas was a very dangerous place if you did not know how to navigate it even a century ago. You are stuck in the 1900s. Get a life.

[1338 h4x0r]

Texas is a very dangerous place if you've developed beyond the level of early hominid

[Scr0tum]

Texas is a very dangerous place if you've developed beyond the level of early hominid

We have some pretty bad places in Texas. Nothing like parts of LA or NY though.

[1338 h4x0r]

Yeah, why do you have so many subhumans tho

[croniun]

i like houston

[Scr0tum]

i like houston

Houston is nice, if you don't like zoning laws.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I've been to Houston twice, and it seems like a complete disaster area. No organisation whatsoever.

[Scr0tum]

That's what I'm saying. No zoning laws.

[Invicta_Veritas]

None? That's absurd.

[Scr0tum]

Go look it up yourself. Don't take my word for it.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I believe you; the place is a mess. I just can't believe a city that established would not have zoning laws. No wonder its a ****ing jungle.

[ringworm]

VF is going to be the rootinest, tootinest, six-shootinest, spur-bootinest mod in the West

:lol:

this is why i miss rep

[1338 h4x0r]

I accrued over 300K rep in a few short months because of all the hilarious **** I say on these forums

[Iscariot]

i was 200k shy of 1 million rep when they disabled the system :mad:

[guitrguy]

the irony in this thread is that just the other day EMH was accusing gtrguy of being a redneck :p

hehehe I kind of am drink keystone right now.


:embarrassed:

I had 1.1mil rep when it was disabled.

[Iscariot]

i'm drinking milwaukee's best it is infinitely worse than keystone

[guitrguy]

h5.

[Iscariot]

:h5:

[1338 h4x0r]

:chug:

I don't even drink beer, I should gtfo

[guitrguy]

naw you're cool enough to stay

lol im buzzed

[Dave de Sylvia]

I like Natty Ice. Along with Leinenkugel's, it's the only American beer I can tolerate.

[guitrguy]

Natty Ice is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo bad.

I have Keystone cause it was left from a party on friday.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Natty Ice is dynamite, faggot.

[Mr. Ron]

Becks

[guitrguy]

more like nasty ice

[Smokey D]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxiliary_verb

Auxiliary verb doesn't mean it's not a verb at all and sure doesn't mean it isn't OVS, Steve.
.

The verb is to hurdle.

As in, I hurdle, I will hurdle, I shall hurdle, I'm hurdling, I hurdled and I have hurdled.

Have conjugates like a verb but the verbal phrase is 'you have hurdled', with the important bit coming at the end. If you put it in the present tense, you would have 'a high bar, you hurdle'. So the sentence was OSV.

[Mr. Ron]

nerds

[guitrguy]

Smokey do you drink beer?

[Smokey D]

Yes.

But none of your filth American river water.

[Mr. Ron]

Samuel Adams is good you son of a bitch! :^p

[guitrguy]

Yes.

But none of your filth American river water.

I would be mad if that wasn't a true statement.