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BridgeToSolace
06-26-2008, 06:47 AM
Can we bring back PM's instead? That's what rep basically turned into...
PerpetualBurn
06-26-2008, 07:39 AM
Oh no.
But how will I know if people like me?
DBoons Ghost
06-26-2008, 07:51 AM
Somehow I don't think you ever cared PB.
I'm slightly upset because I was about to break 1 million.
It's sad that a man my age would even care about meaningless virtual accomplishment but truly rep was PMs for me and there was many lulzy rep commentary that I will surely miss.
Hababi
06-26-2008, 07:53 AM
Somehow I don't think you ever cared PB.
I'm slightly upset because I was about to break 1 million.
It's sad that a man my age would even care about meaningless virtual accomplishment but truly rep was PMs for me and there was many lulzy rep commentary that I will surely miss.
Yeah and I broke 1 million. I was in fourth place. I almost had the bronze. I was this close <>
And then Jeremy took it away
JEREMY HOW COULD YOU BE SO CRUEL??
Steve is lucky they disabled rep.
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 08:12 AM
I dropped orange skin like a bad habit once I found out rep was gone.
Hababi
06-26-2008, 08:13 AM
I dropped orange skin like a bad habit once I found out rep was gone.
Yeah I'm going blue
Because taking away rep has left me blue
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 08:18 AM
I went dark, it looks edgy and rebellious.
BridgeToSolace
06-26-2008, 08:20 AM
I've had the blue one since I've signed up here. I've never had any desire to switch.
Dark doesn't kill my eyes.
DBoons Ghost
06-26-2008, 08:33 AM
I've always been blue. I swtiched to orange one day and it was a whole new world..
Aaron
06-26-2008, 08:36 AM
Dark doesn't kill my eyes.
This.
Hababi
06-26-2008, 08:38 AM
yuck the dark skin kills my eyes
light is too light
blue is just right
Aaron
06-26-2008, 08:44 AM
Blue is seizure town.
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 08:44 AM
Dark is too evil for Steve. :evil:
DBoons Ghost
06-26-2008, 08:48 AM
Dark is too evil for Steve. :evil:
Yeah it reminds him that come November he will have to move out of this country to escape the sensible approach to "national security" as dictated by a black man who sleeps with racists and whoremongers and two faced Muslim liars.
thedeadwalk!
06-26-2008, 08:49 AM
Blue is tacky.
Orange is like that orange camouflage; just ridiculous.
Dark is nice but hurts my eyes.
Light is where it's at.
Hababi
06-26-2008, 08:53 AM
Yeah it reminds him that come November he will have to move out of this country to escape the sensible approach to "national security" as dictated by a black man who sleeps with racists and whoremongers and two faced Muslim liars.
no this fall we're going to elect a war hero and great American, not a con man self centered loser. BO has done nothing in his life and sooner or later people will realize that this is a contest between a remarkable man and a bum.
John McCain is the bum, right?
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 08:55 AM
You're right McCain is a bum. :p
hi5 dei since we can't rep anymore.
Hababi
06-26-2008, 08:57 AM
You're right McCain is a bum. :p
hi5 dei since we can't rep anymore.
:smash::smash::smash:
Obama wouldn't last 5 seconds in a tiger cage. He'd take the deal to go home early in a heartbeat.
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 09:01 AM
:smash::smash::smash:
Obama wouldn't last 5 seconds in a tiger cage. He'd take the deal to go home early in a heartbeat.
he does have a brain.
DBoons Ghost
06-26-2008, 09:02 AM
no this fall we're going to elect a war hero and great American, not a con man self centered loser. BO has done nothing in his life and sooner or later people will realize that this is a contest between a remarkable man and a bum.
Neither are remarkable. John McCain's not a war hero simply because he was a POW you moron. I mean, the bitch got himself caught. Wtf. Nice work soldier boy!
Obama is far from a bum. He might be self centered. I don't know. I don't know either of them personally. You seem like you're closer to both of them then either of us. You know these guys personally?
I mean, McCain left his wife to marry a rich whore almost 20 years younger then him. That makes him a great American? The fact he clung to his daddy's coatails to get where he is makes him a great American? His entire family's sole aspiration was to serve the military. Couldn't they do any better for themselves?
McCain's political career wouldn't have happened had he not left his wife and married the rich girl 20 years younger then he.
BridgeToSolace
06-26-2008, 09:07 AM
I like how people like us (generally younger liberals, you know) despise the media because they focus on superficial nonsense rather than issues.
And really, that's mostly what we do ourselves. I don't care if Obama racist black midget or if McCain is married to a goldfish.
I care what is reflected in the policies and ideas that they propose and support.
And in that respect, I don't really know much about either of them.
Hababi
06-26-2008, 09:09 AM
Lots of people become POWs. Very few would turn down an early release out of loyalty to their fellow soldiers.
And I do know that BO is self centered. He runs around the country bragging about how he took an average paying job out of college when he could've made more. He's like the guy in the office who always reminds you that he could be much further ahead, but is contenting himself to be here.
DBoons Ghost
06-26-2008, 09:12 AM
I like how people like us (generally younger liberals, you know) despise the media because they focus on superficial nonsense rather than issues.
And really, that's mostly what we do ourselves. I don't care if Obama racist black midget or if McCain is married to a goldfish.
I care what is reflected in the policies and ideas that they propose and support.
And in that respect, I don't really know much about either of them.
Great post and I agree.
I vote on issues, not character or associations.
However, every President since the beginning of this country's history has lied and BS'd everyone they can to get the nomination. Once they are in office, it's all forgotten. They forget promises and the charade they perpetuated upon those dumb enough to care about what they said while they were campaigning are like "wtf?" but as we've all seen from history, you can't impeach or fire a President for their lies. They all lie. They have to.
Even if you focus on the issues, it doesn't guarentee anything will change once they are in office.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 09:13 AM
Lots of people become POWs. Very few would turn down an early release out of loyalty to their fellow soldiers.Obama has not been in the same situation, you really can't make this comparison and be justified.
And I do know that BO is self centered. He runs around the country bragging about how he took an average paying job out of college when he could've made more. He's like the guy in the office who always reminds you that he could be much further ahead, but is contenting himself to be here.
He is running for office, and you act like McCain doesn't play up himself either.
DBoons Ghost
06-26-2008, 09:14 AM
Lots of people become POWs. Very few would turn down an early release out of loyalty to their fellow soldiers.
And I do know that BO is self centered. He runs around the country bragging about how he took an average paying job out of college when he could've made more. He's like the guy in the office who always reminds you that he could be much further ahead, but is contenting himself to be here.
Why did he get offered that early release? It's no secret that his daddy ran the Navy during the war.
Don't you think he knew then what he was doing? So fools like you would spin that very same to suit him looking like some hero. His own troops would have ruined him had he taken that early release.
Hababi
06-26-2008, 09:19 AM
Obama has not been in the same situation, you really can't make this comparison and be justified.
Of course I can. BO has never done anything in life that isn't designed to get himself ahead, to benefit himself. He's the most selfish person in politics.
He is running for office, and you act like McCain doesn't play up himself either.
McCain doesn't need to play himself up, he's just that good :p
Why did he get offered that early release? It's no secret that his daddy ran the Navy during the war.
McCain sr was high ranking but he didn't run things. He was offered it because of the name recognition, and he turned it down due to principle. Principles are something BO doesn't have. A principled man wouldn't have reversed himself on a pledge to the American people. A principled man wouldn't have stayed in a racist church for 20 years. A principled man wouldn't have an unrepentent domestic terrorist host fundraisers for him. A principled man wouldn't compare a senate colleague to said domestic terrorist.
Barack Obama is not a principled man.
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 09:22 AM
Of course I can. BO has never done anything in life that isn't designed to get himself ahead, to benefit himself. He's the most selfish person in politics.
other than you playing partisan politic you have no real reason to surmise that.
McCain doesn't need to play himself up, he's just that good :p
Funny how he does it with his "maverickness", military service, etc.
ringworm
06-26-2008, 09:29 AM
hi5 dei since we can't rep anymore.
yeah, wtf happened?
Funny how he does it with his "maverickness",
whats even funnier is that he cant even use this term to describe himself anymore
BridgeToSolace
06-26-2008, 09:31 AM
McCain sr was high ranking but he didn't run things. He was offered it because of the name recognition, and he turned it down due to principle. Principles are something BO doesn't have. A principled man wouldn't have reversed himself on a pledge to the American people. A principled man wouldn't have stayed in a racist church for 20 years. A principled man wouldn't have an unrepentent domestic terrorist host fundraisers for him. A principled man wouldn't compare a senate colleague to said domestic terrorist.
Barack Obama is not a principled man.
All that you seemed to have just communicated to me was that being unprincipled isn't that bad a thing to be.
Hababi
06-26-2008, 09:38 AM
All that you seemed to have just communicated to me was that being unprincipled isn't that bad a thing to be.
Yeah if getting ahead is your sole motivation in life.
BO got all the names of his opponents, including a woman who'd been a mentor, struck from the ballot to win his first race. Why? a technicality.
He dug up sex scandals on his opponents to get his second seat.
Classless.
DBoons Ghost
06-26-2008, 09:44 AM
Everything to you Steve is an opportunity to slew an insult at Obama. While answering nothing for McCain's moral failures.
No one can hear you but you. This forum and your attempts to throw your bitter tantrum will have no bearing on the outcome of this election. I feel bad for you, for you sir, have become a brainwashed sheep.
You are the worst kind of American to me. It sickens me to share this fine land with someone like you.
BridgeToSolace
06-26-2008, 09:48 AM
Yeah if getting ahead is your sole motivation in life.
BO got all the names of his opponents, including a woman who'd been a mentor, struck from the ballot to win his first race. Why? a technicality.
They had the same opportunity to question his petitions. He made sure he did them by the rules.
I fail to see how this is Barack Obama's fault.
He dug up sex scandals on his opponents to get his second seat.
Classless.
Except that the opponent lied about the contents of his divorce papers to the republican party. Which makes him dishonest and thus under your own standards unworthy of being elected in the first place.
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 09:57 AM
I like steve except for when he libels Obama
Knifeboy
06-26-2008, 11:12 AM
Denmarks unemployment rate hit a new alltime low at 1.7%... Which is great for me, but I'm a bit worried what that might do for the economy, anyone have any insight?
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 11:13 AM
The rich will die.
Knifeboy
06-26-2008, 11:17 AM
this is communist denmark, there are no rich!
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 11:19 AM
well um... communism just got the high score.
Iskandar
06-26-2008, 12:26 PM
1.7% unemployment? Wow. Forward with socialism!
Mr. Ron
06-26-2008, 12:27 PM
Sorry, I don't feel like paying for people who don't want to work.
LOL JK!
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 12:36 PM
Capitalism works; that's why the US dollar is continuing to weaken!
Iskandar
06-26-2008, 12:38 PM
Capitalism works, to a point, and with a broad interpretation of what exactly constitutes "capitalism."
guitrguy
06-26-2008, 12:44 PM
free monies!
Smokey D
06-27-2008, 12:02 AM
Denmarks unemployment rate hit a new alltime low at 1.7%... Which is great for me, but I'm a bit worried what that might do for the economy, anyone have any insight?
Labour shortage induced inflation, maybe.
siva_chair
06-27-2008, 06:14 AM
Capitalism works; that's why the US dollar is continuing to weaken!
Capitalism isn't the reason for the weakening dollar, silly.
It could easily be argued it is actually the practices of controlled inflation and a fiat monetary policy that have caused the dollar to weaken.
Hababi
06-27-2008, 07:40 AM
The rich will die.
rich people die unhappy
totah
06-27-2008, 08:51 AM
Rich people die I'm happy.
guitrguy
06-27-2008, 08:52 AM
Capitalism isn't the reason for the weakening dollar, silly.
It could easily be argued it is actually the practices of controlled inflation and a fiat monetary policy that have caused the dollar to weaken.
I know tis a joke.
siva_chair
06-27-2008, 08:54 AM
I know tis a joke.
Oh I see so it is like Communism in that respect.... :p
guitrguy
06-27-2008, 08:57 AM
Well, both extremes are a joke really.
ringworm
06-27-2008, 08:57 AM
not voting for ron paul = weak dollar, tbo :lol:
why did they get rid of rep?
totah
06-27-2008, 08:57 AM
Capitalism as a theory works fine, just like every other theory. But the capitalism we have today doesn't work for most people.
I define "work" as something that serves to better people's lives, both materially and emotionally to an equal level.
siva_chair
06-27-2008, 09:06 AM
Well, both extremes are a joke really.
Nope, just Communism. :p
I'll still buy you a drink though, comrade. I got no beef with you. :chug:
guitrguy
06-27-2008, 09:07 AM
Nope, just Communism. :p
I'll still buy you a drink though, comrade. I got no beef with you. :chug:
sweet!
siva_chair
06-27-2008, 09:14 AM
sweet!
Or, perhaps you would prefer sharing a bowl...either way is cool with me.:thumb:
Akira
06-27-2008, 09:35 AM
Ungt. I don't want to hear another word about Charlie Black. He said what everyone was thinking. He did nothing wrong.
guitrguy
06-27-2008, 10:11 AM
Or, perhaps you would prefer sharing a bowl...either way is cool with me.:thumb:
We can just party it up with some dank nugs and booze
Mr. Ron
06-27-2008, 09:30 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zh7ps1KWl_M
Iskandar
06-27-2008, 11:54 PM
Just a curiousity: openpolitics.ca
I know political quizzes are boring if you get the same results every time but it's interesting for me because my views have changed considerably over the past year or so.
Well, maybe not that much:
Based on your answers, you are big on a "by the people for the people government" that takes good care of its citizens.
:)
Hababi
06-28-2008, 07:35 AM
posting on mx on my birthday
Based on your answers, the most important role for government, in your view, is creating a just society.
DBILW - Internationalist
this is one of the political personality types of the PPQ
Description
This personality is a “democracy without borders” point of view that promotes human rights and seeks a just and progressive world order.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives:
democrat, big state, individualist, idealist, wide focus.
Likes and dislikes
Likes
* sensitivity to inequalities of power and influence
* prefers negotiation to use of force.
* government support for people or industries who experience misfortune
* looking to scriptures, rights, or treaties.
* society is in need of a "paradigm shift."
Dislikes
* overt patriotism
* working from overly abstract “models.”
* addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes."
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
McP3000
06-28-2008, 02:08 PM
Hippy, go smoke dope in your volkswagon
Reaganista
06-30-2008, 02:30 AM
ASIRN - Blue Tory
this is one of the political personality types of the PPQ
Description
Classical Liberals or Blue Tories are “tax cut” conservatives first and foremost, with the view that a minimalist state and maximum economic freedoms contribute to prosperity and social stability.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives
authoritarian,small state,individualist,rationalist,narrow focus?
Likes and dislikes
like:
* trust in the judgement of experts/ hand picked individuals
* less interference in the free market
* cutting red tape
* not accepting limits to the upper end of success
* competition, and facing challenges
* enforcing the right to privacy
dislike:
* self determination for minorities
* expanding the social safety net.
* being accountable to community standards
* overt patriotism
* emphasis on "feelings" because they are subjective.
Philosophy: Libertarian
eh
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 02:30 AM
hello tway how are you feeling this evening?
Reaganista
06-30-2008, 02:32 AM
im ok i guess
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 02:33 AM
cool cool
do anything fun lately?
Reaganista
06-30-2008, 02:37 AM
i beat off like 2 hours ago
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 02:38 AM
lol
well other than touching your penis did you do anything fun this weekend? any good parties or anything?
Reaganista
06-30-2008, 02:49 AM
ya actually yesterday but it sucked masturbating is more fun
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 02:52 AM
i was gonna go to a party yesterday but i'm a very lazy person and i hate passing out at someone else's house
i wear contacts so if i get drunk at someone's house and pass out, i have to sleep in my contacts all night and then my eyes hurt like hell the next morning so i usually avoid parties
siva_chair
06-30-2008, 02:55 AM
This just in:
A case of Pabst Blue Ribbon + a Big Mac = volatile and deadly rectal emissions the next day....
Now here is Jim with the weather....
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 02:58 AM
hah
mcd's and beer never mix
siva_chair
06-30-2008, 03:19 AM
hah
mcd's and beer never mix
I realize that.
I think they might make chemical weapons out of that combo actually....
Dr Hooch
06-30-2008, 03:37 AM
This just in:
A case of Pabst Blue Ribbon + a Big Mac = volatile and deadly rectal emissions the next day....
Now here is Jim with the weather....
Aren't you above putting that **** down your throat?
At least subway pretend to be healthy.
siva_chair
06-30-2008, 03:42 AM
Aren't you above putting that **** down your throat?
At least subway pretend to be healthy.
I haven't had McDonalds in a very long time, and it was the quickest, cheapest, and most accessable food at the time.
Believe me, it wouldn't have been my first choice, if I were to have had one at the time.
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 08:36 AM
This just in:
A case of Pabst Blue Ribbon + a Big Mac = volatile and deadly rectal emissions the next day....
Now here is Jim with the weather....
That was just the PBR
siva_chair
06-30-2008, 09:18 AM
That was just the PBR
Nah because I had some last weekend and it didn't turn me into a walking chemical weapon.
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 09:19 AM
It makes me one every time.
siva_chair
06-30-2008, 09:20 AM
It makes me one every time.
Don't get me wrong, it sure isn't the greatest beer, but it is hard to beat the price....
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 09:22 AM
definitely not, that's why I buy it.
Dr Hooch
06-30-2008, 09:54 AM
If i want to get drunk i drink gin, and if i want to enjoy a drink i get good beer; i never saw the appeal of cheap nasty beer?
it's a classic activity enjoyed by typically lower middle class american men, good doctor
Dr Hooch
06-30-2008, 10:14 AM
it's a classic activity enjoyed by typically lower middle class american men, good doctor
But why do they not drink champagne or brandy, like any sane person?
But why do they not drink champagne or brandy, like any sane person?
too expensive to get drunk fast
Dr Hooch
06-30-2008, 10:22 AM
/was taking the piss
but if you want to get drunk, beer is terrible; it takes ages because you have to drink loads and it gives the most awful hangovers?
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 10:24 AM
If i want to get drunk i drink gin, and if i want to enjoy a drink i get good beer; i never saw the appeal of cheap nasty beer?
Well it's not that nasty.
I can't be the only person who doesn't drink because they can't stand the taste of beer.
beer tastes good
in a manly sort of way
It tastes like butt and it burns my throat.
I think I will stick to my water and teas.
:(
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 12:45 PM
what beer burns your throat?
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 12:46 PM
/was taking the piss
but if you want to get drunk, beer is terrible; it takes ages because you have to drink loads and it gives the most awful hangovers?
which is why i love $8 bottles of ltd whiskey
the girl that works at the liquor store knows my name now :) :(
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 12:47 PM
It tastes like butt and it burns my throat.(
wtf
what beer burns your throat?
I've only had Corona, Heineken and some other bad stuff.
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 01:09 PM
I've only had Corona, Heineken and some other bad stuff.
maybe you have a sensitive throat, idk.
PerpetualBurn
06-30-2008, 01:10 PM
This sounds like a good opportunity for me to start talking about real ales again.
I need to sort out a CAMRA membership.
Dr Hooch
06-30-2008, 01:10 PM
Those are the mildest most easy to enjoy beers you could name
PerpetualBurn
06-30-2008, 01:11 PM
I like to drink Magnet. Because I'm a real man.
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 01:16 PM
Corona makes me gag.
Maybe beer isn't for me.
Wine and vodka are the only other alcoholic drinks I've had and I like both.
Dr Hooch
06-30-2008, 03:07 PM
Corona makes me gag.
What? Bullshit. It's nearer water than not.
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 03:08 PM
What? Bullpoop. It's nearer water than not.
It's got a nasty mexican funk to it.
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 03:14 PM
yeah corona is pretty poor
Wine and vodka are the only other alcoholic drinks I've had and I like both.
white or red?
red is good with food but if i'm just going to drink wine it's white ftw
so what are the respectable beers one can purchase in any typical american store
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 03:17 PM
molson
lebatt
miller
coors light
rolling rock
fat tire
alaskan amber
what about yingling or sam adams or guinness
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 03:19 PM
Newcastle
Sam Adams
Grolsche
Hoegaarded
Blue Moon
Kirin ichiban
etc.
what about yingling or sam adams or guinness
Never had yingling, and idc much for guiness.
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 03:20 PM
sam adams is great, i've never tried yingling, and guinness is ok but it's very stout and one bottle is basically the equivalent of a loaf of bread
edit: blue moon is v good @ brian
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 03:20 PM
I had a Sam Adams light the other night. It was surprisingly good.
lol ok
i am turning 21 in september and i enjoy drinking in moderation, but i've pretty much stuck to whatever my friends get and don't have a lot of knowledge on the market so i'm looking for a "baseline" of beers to get for the weekends
i think it's silly how so many college kids are obsessed with drinking lots of poopty canned beer with random fags and ho's; i'd rather chill with a couple good friends and enjoy a couple of nice bottles
Iscariot
06-30-2008, 03:22 PM
happy early birthday amit
make sure you go bar hopping and get your free birthday drinks
Dr Hooch
06-30-2008, 03:22 PM
Grolsch is nice. Becks Vier i like draught but not in cans. San Miguel I like, Cobra I like, Kronenberg is the nicest thing they do on tap in student hall bars, Staropramen i really like
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 03:25 PM
i think it's silly how so many college kids are obsessed with drinking lots of poopty canned beer with random fags and ho's; i'd rather chill with a couple good friends and enjoy a couple of nice bottles
This for many reasons. Most importantly being cops are less likely to ruin your shindig.
Grolsch is nice. Becks Vier i like draught but not in cans. San Miguel I like, Cobra I like, Kronenberg is the nicest thing they do on tap in student hall bars, Staropramen i really like
you're not talking about the Malt liquor are you?
Dr Hooch
06-30-2008, 03:52 PM
you're not talking about the Malt liquor are you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Beer
Mister_Che
06-30-2008, 03:54 PM
My fiance really likes Blue Moon. When you guys say Sam Adams, do you mean Boston Lager, specifically? That's one beer I like.
ashman
06-30-2008, 04:06 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_Brown_Ale
Best beer ever.
guitrguy
06-30-2008, 04:09 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Beer
At least you were not talking about this.
Che, yeah.
This is the best beer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauwel_Kwak
McP3000
06-30-2008, 04:28 PM
There is no best beer
just beer that tastes like piss, or beer that doesnt taste like piss
white or red?
red is good with food but if i'm just going to drink wine it's white ftw
Both.
i am turning 21 in september
WTF. I thought you were already like 23 or 24.
Akira
06-30-2008, 06:00 PM
Lmao@McCain
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/30/mccain-uses-swift-boat-ve_n_110003.html
How does he take the moral high ground and shame Obama? By launching a "Truth Squad" with a Swift Vote Veteran for Slander-er-Truth.
The most beautiful part is that 4 years ago McCain condemned the Swifties for their dishonesty and lack of integrity. It's a good thing that John McCain is such a moral man and sticks by his convictions always, not just when it is politically expedient.
PerpetualBurn
06-30-2008, 06:16 PM
Everybody should drink Timothy Taylor's Landlord.
But they don't.
Because it's not very readily available.
siva_chair
07-01-2008, 12:36 AM
what about yingling or sam adams or guinness
^This^
I go to a local store that has about any kind of beer you can think of.
I think last time I checked their selection was somewhere around 3,000 beers from all around the world....
I try to try different ones everytime.
WTF. I thought you were already like 23 or 24.
reading h.l. mencken will do that to you
siva_chair
07-01-2008, 01:05 AM
Everybody should drink Timothy Taylor's Landlord.
But they don't.
Because it's not very readily available.
I think my beer store has that (but maybe not). I shall have to try it.
Also, I didn't know the Toolman made beer...
Reaganista
07-01-2008, 01:11 AM
the less ppl who drink a beer the better it is duh
also http://www.xanga.com/xXxPaOlAxXx/394446718/item.html
Iskandar
07-01-2008, 01:11 AM
I've never been one for beers. I enjoy a nice Scotch now and then, though it's very expensive stuff.
Then at a restaurant or something it's nice to order half a bottle of red wine to go with your meal. Chile doesn't make a bad Cabernet Sauvignon.
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 02:38 AM
scotch is a very pretentious drink
it's really not good at all it's like gin in the respect that it tastes like absolute crap but people who claim to have refined tastes drink it like water
it's also pretty much impossible to get wasted on scotch or gin but people like to lie and claim it has a great flavor to compensate when it actually tastes like nail polish remover
siva_chair
07-01-2008, 02:42 AM
scotch is a very pretentious drink
it's really not good at all it's like gin in the respect that it tastes like absolute crap but people who claim to have refined tastes drink it like water
it's also pretty much impossible to get wasted on scotch or gin but people like to lie and claim it has a great flavor to compensate when it actually tastes like nail polish remover
Hey I love good scotch....Johnnie Walker...mmmmm.....
Really cheap scotch can taste like sweatsocks though....
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 02:44 AM
i've had expensive scotch and uuuuugh
maybe i'm just not fancy enough to enjoy it but i hate all forms of scotch it's just horrible
Dave de Sylvia
07-01-2008, 02:46 AM
why would you bring up wine in a thread with actual men in it
that's what i need to know
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 02:47 AM
wine is good
south africa puts out some exceptionally fantastic flavors
Dave de Sylvia
07-01-2008, 02:48 AM
uh oh another one gone
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 02:50 AM
pfft it takes refinement and an evolved pallet to appreciate wine
sosm says: "it also takes a vagina"
iscariot cries
Iskandar
07-01-2008, 02:50 AM
it's also pretty much impossible to get wasted on scotch or gin but people like to lie and claim it has a great flavor to compensate when it actually tastes like nail polish removerBoth are spirits. It should be just as easy to get drunk on them as it would be to get drunk on vodka.
Hey I love good scotch....Johnnie Walker...mmmmm.....
Johnnie Walker is no mean drink but single malts are where it's at.
siva_chair
07-01-2008, 02:50 AM
i've had expensive scotch and uuuuugh
maybe i'm just not fancy enough to enjoy it but i hate all forms of scotch it's just horrible
It certainly isn't for everyone.
why would you bring up wine in a thread with actual men in it
that's what i need to know
That is truely a great question.
Unless of course you are talking about Bull's Blood wine (Egri Bikaver).....which has a pretty manly origin story....
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 02:52 AM
Both are spirits. It should be just as easy to get drunk on them as it would be to get drunk on vodka.
different liquors affect me well.. differently
for example, i can't get drunk on rum
i have drank three bottles of rum in a row in an hour and half and not gotten wasted
however, if i'm drinking whiskey/tequila, i can drink a single bottle in an hour and get completely trashed
i don't know the mechanics of it, i just know what works for me and what doesn't
siva_chair
07-01-2008, 02:53 AM
Johnnie Walker is no mean drink but single malts are where it's at.
Don't get me wrong, I still love my Glenlivet single malt 12 year for sure.....just love my JW Black Label more....
Iskandar
07-01-2008, 03:00 AM
example, i can't get drunk on rum
i have drank three bottles of rum in a row in an hour and half and not gotten wasted
however, if i'm drinking whiskey/tequila, i can drink a single bottle in an hour and get completely trashedThat doesn't make sense to me but if you say so, I guess I can't doubt it.
I wouldn't want to drink enough rum to get drunk anyway.
Don't get me wrong, I still love my Glenlivet single malt 12 year for sure.....just love my JW Black Label more....You have good taste, sir.
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 03:01 AM
That doesn't make sense to me but if you say so, I guess I can't doubt it.
i have a weird body
you'd probably have to drink with me to really understand how i am with liquor but trust me when i say that some drinks just do not do the trick for me
and yeah rum is gross
it's one of my least favorite spirits
siva_chair
07-01-2008, 03:03 AM
You have good taste, sir.
Let me guess, except when it comes to politics/economic theory, amirite? :p
:chug:
I like Meyer's rum and Coke a lot.....
Iskandar
07-01-2008, 03:14 AM
You're a typical American libertarian which isn't really my deal, but I respect your opinions. And you're a cool guy.
you'd probably have to drink with me to really understand how i am with liquor but trust me when i say that some drinks just do not do the trick for me
and yeah rum is gross
it's one of my least favorite spiritsI'll take your word for it.
Rum is pretty much bottom of the barrel for me. The only thing I dislike more is rye whiskey.
siva_chair
07-01-2008, 03:54 AM
You're a typical American libertarian which isn't really my deal, but I respect your opinions. And you're a cool guy.
And you are a typical Canadian pseudo-Eurocommie, which I don't really have any actual problem with (just really like to amuse myself by making fun of it because I think it is hilarious). And you are a cool guy, too. You take my ridiculing of your socio-economic views for my own amusement quite well.
:chug:
Dr Hooch
07-01-2008, 05:07 AM
scotch is a very pretentious drink
it's really not good at all it's like gin in the respect that it tastes like absolute crap but people who claim to have refined tastes drink it like water
it's also pretty much impossible to get wasted on scotch or gin but people like to lie and claim it has a great flavor to compensate when it actually tastes like nail polish remover
Gin doesn't taste "good" and I'd never drink it without a mixer but gin lemon or lime or gin and tonic I like if they're cheap
I know what you mean about not getting you drunk though; on 5 doubles I'm just very tipsy whereas on 5 pints i would be distinctly "drunk"
PerpetualBurn
07-01-2008, 06:38 AM
different liquors affect me well.. differently
for example, i can't get drunk on rum
i have drank three bottles of rum in a row in an hour and half and not gotten wasted
however, if i'm drinking whiskey/tequila, i can drink a single bottle in an hour and get completely trashed
i don't know the mechanics of it, i just know what works for me and what doesn't
My BS sense is tingling.
Rounder
07-01-2008, 07:18 AM
My BS sense is tingling.
yea. Hello. I never visit or post in community threads because I see them as a way to boost post count-e peen, but I have been here so long, I thought i would come by and say hello, and agree that previous post seems like bs. alcohol is alcohol.
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 12:41 PM
My BS sense is tingling.
you should get that fixed
lol jared you do realize that's impossible right
it would be like saying cyanide in a blue bottle makes you happy while cyanide in a purple bottle makes you DEAD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 12:44 PM
i'm at the stage of alcoholism where i have the tolerance of a greek god
i haven't hit the point yet where i can get drunk off just the smell of liquor
well that's not the problem here
different liquors affect me well.. differently
for example, i can't get drunk on rum
i have drank three bottles of rum in a row in an hour and half and not gotten wasted
however, if i'm drinking whiskey/tequila, i can drink a single bottle in an hour and get completely trashed
i don't know the mechanics of it, i just know what works for me and what doesn't
this is impossible however
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 12:52 PM
i'll prove it then
give me three bottles of rum and we'll do this shi
everyone told my friend ratu it was impossible for him to drain a full fifth of HRD in one breath but goddammit that fijian bastard did it and i can do this too
just to get pumped up, i'm going to bust out my classic goldberg scale
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/kingsolomon/goldberg_scale.jpg
Dave de Sylvia
07-01-2008, 01:17 PM
what do you mean by a bottle?
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 01:18 PM
a fifth
Dave de Sylvia
07-01-2008, 01:30 PM
lol
ringworm
07-01-2008, 01:43 PM
i've never understood the whole, "i can drink a case of beer and not get drunk" crowd
they are usually the guys you catch pouring their beers out before they're finished :lol:
even when i drank a lot, i was still a cheap drunk, and glad too
Iscariot
07-01-2008, 01:51 PM
pouring beer out is blasphemy
guitrguy
07-01-2008, 01:56 PM
people who pour out beer deserve to be anally raped seven times by razor lined baseball bats.
ringworm
07-01-2008, 02:00 PM
i saw it all the time when i was younger
we got a guy drunk off sprite at one party, he was a well known faker of being intoxicated, so we let him have it
shot after shot of a special mixed drink (at least he thought it was) he was spinning around, stumbling, acting like a tard, until we showed him, and everyone else at the party, the huge amount of sprite he just consumed :lol:
guitrguy
07-01-2008, 02:02 PM
:lol: I hope he cried like a girl.
ringworm
07-01-2008, 02:05 PM
we told him to at least drive some of us home before he ran away :)
Rounder
07-01-2008, 05:22 PM
we told him to at least drive some of us home before he ran away :)
You shouldn't do things like that. Not without a camera present.
Mr. Ron
07-01-2008, 07:32 PM
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/denmark-is-worlds-happiest-country/20080701135109990001?icid=100214839x1205034361x120 0232409
America is 16th.
siva_chair
07-02-2008, 04:36 AM
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/denmark-is-worlds-happiest-country/20080701135109990001?icid=100214839x1205034361x120 0232409
America is 16th.
And in a related story on happiness:
http://mobile2.wsj.com/device/html_article.php?id=77&CALL_URL=http://online.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB120856454897828049.ht ml%3Fmod%3Dopinion_main_commentaries
So I bet gun owners in Denmark have sunshine rays of joy shooting out of their *** 24/7....
1338 h4x0r
07-02-2008, 06:41 AM
your link says nothing and breaks the page
use tinyurl in the future
btw—nobody cares
siva_chair
07-02-2008, 06:59 AM
your link says nothing and breaks the page
use tinyurl in the future
btw—nobody cares
Feck it worked just a while ago.
Oh well don't care. Said gun owners are more likely to be happier than non-gun owners.
I think I'll continue to do what I want in the future.
Iskandar
07-02-2008, 07:03 AM
Yeah, and Danes in general are happier than anyone!
1338 h4x0r
07-02-2008, 07:06 AM
Oh well don't care. Said gun owners are more likely to be happier than non-gun owners.
Apparently not.
BTW—nobody cares.
I think I'll continue to do what I want in the future.
Fine, be an asshole.
Iskandar
07-02-2008, 04:18 PM
I like Denmark a lot. Always have, ever since I learned it was the birthplace of Lego. My only problem with it is that the Danish language is wacky. It sounds like German spoken with a sore throat.
Denmark is supposed to be the happiest place on Earth.
spitfirejunky
07-02-2008, 05:42 PM
I thought it was Bangladesh.
Iskandar
07-02-2008, 07:09 PM
Somalia. Hey, it's the libertarian gun-nut utopia. Everyone has weapons and Big Government can't infringe upon it because their government is too ineffective to even keep order, much less meddle with your right to bear arms.
Iscariot
07-02-2008, 07:20 PM
i'm moving to somalia
Hababi
07-02-2008, 07:21 PM
i'm moving to somalia
Take 1338 with you.
ringworm
07-02-2008, 07:22 PM
i thought i asked this a few days ago, but i didnt see it when i backtracked a few threads
What is the big deal about Obamas rejection of public funding? They play it as flip flopping, but didnt he do the more honorable choice by not using our money to campaign? I dont understand the process, so I could be missing something.
Iscariot
07-02-2008, 07:23 PM
Take 1338 with you.
ok
we'll form a gang and eat the hearts of our rival gangs' members to prove that we mean business
and at the end of the day we'll watch Friends and reflect on how much we remind each other of ross and rachel but i'm a little more like chandler and he's a little more like monica
^_^
Hababi
07-02-2008, 07:26 PM
i thought i asked this a few days ago, but i didnt see it when i backtracked a few threads
What is the big deal about Obamas rejection of public funding? They play it as flip flopping, but didnt he do the more honorable choice by not using our money to campaign? I dont understand the process, so I could be missing something.
Well if you're against public financing then you think that not taking it is a good thing.
But the issue isn't really whether public financing is good or not. It's whether your word means anything. Obama gave his word to the American people, spoken and written. He said that campaign finance reform was a MAJOR conviction of his, something he was extremely intent on. He used it to separate himself from Hillary. Then he simply cast it aside, disregarding his earlier promises. The man's word means nothing.
ringworm
07-02-2008, 07:40 PM
but hasnt every other pres done the opposite?
i guess i need to do some research on the procedure, it sounds like each candidate has 2 options, use the money you raised in the electoral campaign, or use money given to you by the fed, or maybe you can do both?
what is the history of this process, have most of the previous candidates used the public and not campaign funds?
Rounder
07-02-2008, 10:52 PM
Well if you're against public financing then you think that not taking it is a good thing.
But the issue isn't really whether public financing is good or not. It's whether your word means anything. Obama gave his word to the American people, spoken and written. He said that campaign finance reform was a MAJOR conviction of his, something he was extremely intent on. He used it to separate himself from Hillary. Then he simply cast it aside, disregarding his earlier promises. The man's word means nothing.
McCain is just as guilty. His whole 'I'm no expert at economics, I need to be educated' thing, has showed him to be either a liar or cognitively impaired. He Lied AGAIN this week on abc news. He said he never said he was not an expert. Yet Russert nailed him on it. Is he just getting old, or is he a liar?
ringworm
07-03-2008, 10:11 AM
i swear, if mccain gets elected, even i may quit america :lol:
the latest polls, even though many are confused and unsure at the accuracy show obama slipping to mccain
even though mccains campaign strategy is basically, not really campaigning
its kinda like the current admins actions, hey america, lets shop our way to a brighter future with some cash, only its your cash, wait, its really cash we dont have, but heres some anyway, use it to fill your tank up and hit the malls :/
and the banner on mx is really getting me pissed
"Is it OK to unconditionally meet with anti american foreign leaders?
Elect a leader with good judgement."
slap me silly, but i believe good judgement is YES, maybe not meeting with them is why they are anti american you retard
is his only tactic portraying someone interested in diplomacy as a sissy or weak?
Hababi
07-03-2008, 10:31 AM
but hasnt every other pres done the opposite?
Not really. No one has so audaciously and capriciously disregarded their word, their positions, etc. than Obama.
i guess i need to do some research on the procedure, it sounds like each candidate has 2 options, use the money you raised in the electoral campaign, or use money given to you by the fed, or maybe you can do both?
The public financing lasts for a period of time.
what is the history of this process, have most of the previous candidates used the public and not campaign funds?
Obama is the first one not to do so. Yet public financing was supposed to be one of his key issues,s omething he cared about deeply. Something he used to differentiate himself from Clinton.
McCain is just as guilty. His whole 'I'm no expert at economics, I need to be educated' thing, has showed him to be either a liar or cognitively impaired. He Lied AGAIN this week on abc news. He said he never said he was not an expert. Yet Russert nailed him on it. Is he just getting old, or is he a liar?
He was being only semi-serious when he made the first comment. The issue you're talking about has no relevance. It wasn't a promise, or a platform. It wasn't about his record. And his economic plans are superior to Obama's, so he must know something.
Obama is the one who knows nothing. He's opposing free trade. His housing plans as a state senator were terrible and corrupt. He wants to increase taxes when there's economic stagnation.
totah
07-03-2008, 02:35 PM
You're so naive, the both of you.
1338 h4x0r
07-03-2008, 02:36 PM
...said the anarchist
Dave de Sylvia
07-03-2008, 02:43 PM
Not really. No one has so audaciously and capriciously disregarded their word, their positions, etc. than Obama.
I think Nixon has him trumped. For some reason.
totah
07-03-2008, 02:45 PM
I believe that if we create an egalitarian, anti-authoritarian social movement, it can achieve as much as any movement has achieved in the past.
You believe that, regardless of the last one hundred years, voting for a supreme ruler with a supreme ruling party is going to make your life better. You also debate the merits of these politicians and parties by accusing the rival of corruption, deception and prejudice. You are not stupid, and so must be aware that an honest politician is rarer than a black swan, and corruption is rife within the upper and middle ranks of your political institutions.
1338 h4x0r
07-03-2008, 03:11 PM
Rulers in (honest) representative democracies are not supreme by any means.
Furthermore, not all democracies are created equal. If I remember correctly, there were a lot of people in Sweden's national law enforcement agency who complained loudly about the idea of Internet surveillance. That's unimaginable here.
In good democracies, the corrupt and stupid eventually get shoved out, even if it takes a little while.
Personally, I would rather have anarchism but, for it to be successful in the long run, it would require human behavior to be regulated either with genetic engineering or with cybernetics. Currently, humans think with their guts and genitalia too much to be trusted with anarchy.
For that reason, I want to live in a democracy that isn't dysfunctional (like Canada) and put my trust in science to better our condition. I want a peaceful, decent country where I can do research and not worry about the gubbermint ripping me off or spying on me.
That's a reasonable and realistic expectation. Functioning anarchism is a long way off, buddy.
Hababi
07-03-2008, 04:10 PM
I think Nixon has him trumped. For some reason.
Obama's ethics rival Nixon's.
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 04:22 PM
nixon was one of the best presidents though so who cares
also mcsame wears adult diapers but he hasnt told the american people this is highly unethical
Dave de Sylvia
07-03-2008, 04:23 PM
I really don't think there's any reasonable comparison you could make.
Hababi
07-03-2008, 04:23 PM
Nixon was a great leader in opening up international markets
Obama wants to close off international markets
Dave de Sylvia
07-03-2008, 04:25 PM
And that proves that their ethics are similar?
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 04:27 PM
i dont care about obama's policies i just like him more cause his bowels work
Hababi
07-03-2008, 04:28 PM
And that proves that their ethics are similar?
No the ethics issue is separate. Nixon despite his lack of ethics was a very good president in some regards. Obama is unethical and a terrible, horrible leader with no accomplishments and no good ideas.
Invicta_Veritas
07-03-2008, 04:28 PM
Obama also wants to create a windfall profits tax on big oil, a tactic that has been used before (80-88) and failed miserably, garnering only 25% of what it projected to gain, decreasing domestic production drastically, and driving prices even further up.
Do we not learn from our past mistakes?
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 04:38 PM
wat makes a good leader
Obama also wants to create a windfall profits tax on big oil, a tactic that has been used before (80-88) and failed miserably, garnering only 25% of what it projected to gain, decreasing domestic production drastically, and driving prices even further up.
are you suggesting that obama wants to reimplement a reagan policy
Invicta_Veritas
07-03-2008, 04:47 PM
Aye, one that failed miserably and even backlashed.
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 04:50 PM
so youre anti reagan and anti obama but youre not a communist
i must say im intrigued
Invicta_Veritas
07-03-2008, 04:51 PM
I never said I was anti-Reagan.
And many of Obama's ideals border on Communism, I fail to recognize your implication that I am one.
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 04:55 PM
what you fail to do is fail to read i never said you were a communist you moron
also there's nothing about obama that approaches communism
also you said reagan failed miserably
Invicta_Veritas
07-03-2008, 04:58 PM
I said that policy failed miserably. I never once implicated Reagan on any other level.
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 04:59 PM
his policy
Invicta_Veritas
07-03-2008, 05:02 PM
So? If it had been any other president's policy, it would have failed as well.
How does criticising one policy of a president mean that you think the president overall is a failure? I swear, you have got to be a troll.
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 05:07 PM
saying that something he supposedly did for his entire presidency is a miserable failure is a pretty strong criticism
i dont see how you could possibly be for somebody who continuously stood by a policy you hate so much
Dr Hooch
07-03-2008, 06:21 PM
You're so naive, the both of you.
...said the anarchist
:lol: ZZZZZING
Iscariot
07-03-2008, 07:14 PM
my plants are getting so big
i feel like a proud parent but instead of putting my kids through college i'm going to smoke them
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 07:44 PM
ok.
btw if your house catches on fire and then a firefighter dies in the fire theyll charge you with murder just sayin
Iscariot
07-03-2008, 07:46 PM
since i grow with fluorescants and safety proofed the room myself when i built it that's pretty unlikely to ever happen but k thanks for the info
clown_phobia
07-03-2008, 08:12 PM
I think one of the things that makes this forum better than other similar ones is the separated PNWI section
Scr0tum
07-03-2008, 08:23 PM
i dont see how you could possibly be for somebody who continuously stood by a policy you hate so much
Reagan's 80% Doctrine.
Der Übermensch
07-03-2008, 08:40 PM
Scr0tum is VF!!
ringworm
07-03-2008, 09:02 PM
Not really. No one has so audaciously and capriciously disregarded their word, their positions, etc. than Obama.
o c'mone, mccains atrocious unsteadiness is tons worse
i seriously saw a guy ask a rep why mccain seems to be pointing the finger at obama, yet does the same or worse, but because of his service length, just turn away and act like you didnt see it
The public financing lasts for a period of time.
wow, obama just chose to spend no taxpayer dollars to try and win the position? why should this hurt is approval?
Obama is the first one not to do so
again, how is not snatching every penny you can loot not "change"?
Der Übermensch
07-03-2008, 09:06 PM
wow, obama just chose to spend no taxpayer dollars to try and win the position? why should this hurt is approval?
Because he publicly stated that he would accept it, saying tax-funded campaigns meant the candidate wouldn't be obligated to private donors.
Hababi
07-03-2008, 09:10 PM
Most of the issues people think McCain has flip flopped on aren't flip flops at all. He was against giving the tax cuts, but once they were given, taking them away amounts to a tax increase, and a particularly dumb one when there's stagnation. Gas wasn't a pressing issue in 2000, which meant that offshore drilling wasn't a pertinent issue, but it certainly is now.
If Obama would've started out saying no to public financing and saying that he doesn't buy into the system, it wouldn't be an issue. Again, it's not even the issue itself, but Obama's lack of principle.
Der Übermensch
07-03-2008, 09:15 PM
Why don't you make a bash-obama thread, and let me talk about how awesome my vacation was?
Cheap booze and sunny beaches. What's not to like!?
clown_phobia
07-03-2008, 09:46 PM
Most of the issues people think McCain has flip flopped on aren't flip flops at all. He was against giving the tax cuts, but once they were given, taking them away amounts to a tax increase, and a particularly dumb one when there's stagnation. Gas wasn't a pressing issue in 2000, which meant that offshore drilling wasn't a pertinent issue, but it certainly is now.
If Obama would've started out saying no to public financing and saying that he doesn't buy into the system, it wouldn't be an issue. Again, it's not even the issue itself, but Obama's lack of principle.
So his policies may stand up logically but that doesn't mean that they will produce desirable results. They are very close to the policies of the Bush administration. When it comes to the crunch and McCain needs to make the hard decisions in the end he is still a conservative - as is Bush. The majority of Americans are not happy with the conservative direction the country has been in. I understand this is argumentum ad populum but in the end this is what will decide the election.
Hababi
07-03-2008, 09:50 PM
what do you even mean 'conservative direction'?
Obama opposes offshore drilling. 74% of Americans support it.
clown_phobia
07-03-2008, 09:52 PM
what do you even mean 'conservative direction'?
Obama opposes offshore drilling. 74% of Americans support it.
I meant regarding issues such as foreign policy (iraq), economic policy including tax, health etc
Hababi
07-03-2008, 10:02 PM
Well Obama is flip flopping on Iraq now
People don't support tax increases. McCain doesn't call for them, Obama does.
clown_phobia
07-03-2008, 10:07 PM
In any case polls suggest people are not happy with the direction of the country. Call it conservative, call it liberal, call it Bush, call it nothing.
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 10:08 PM
nobody cares about offshore drilling
clown_phobia
07-03-2008, 10:11 PM
nobody cares about offshore drilling
It ties closely to issues of energy and the environment which are very topical at the moment
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 10:12 PM
well that's true
yet no one cares go figure
yeah fvck the environment
Invicta_Veritas
07-03-2008, 10:36 PM
The American people generally don't agree with Obama on anything, they're just willing to vote for him because McCain resembles Bush, and Bush is supposedly a "NAZI" (or that's what half of UW thinks).
Which goes to show how ignorant the American people are as a whole.
1338 h4x0r
07-03-2008, 10:37 PM
Nobody is better than BRA
Hell, he even writes his own glowing reviews for himself
Self-sufficiency ITT
Invicta_Veritas
07-03-2008, 10:38 PM
I love how you don't like me, so you can automatically make up whatever you want about me and call it true.
guitrguy
07-03-2008, 10:39 PM
The American people generally don't agree with Obama on anything, they're just willing to vote for him because McCain resembles Bush, and Bush is supposedly a "NAZI" (or that's what half of UW thinks).
Which goes to show how ignorant the American people are as a whole.
umm.....
clown_phobia
07-03-2008, 10:41 PM
The American people generally don't agree with Obama on anything, they're just willing to vote for him because McCain resembles Bush, and Bush is supposedly a "NAZI" (or that's what half of UW thinks).
Which goes to show how ignorant the American people are as a whole.
I think this is a cynical view. While it is true that much of Obama's support comes simply as he is seen as an alternative to what are seen Bush's unsuccesful policies, there are still many Americans who hold views in line with Obama's.
guitrguy
07-03-2008, 10:42 PM
I'm sure there are people throwing there support behind McCain because Obama has a D after his name.
clown_phobia
07-03-2008, 10:44 PM
I'm sure there are people throwing there support behind McCain because Obama has a D after his name.
Yes but seems more likely this year that those who oppose Obama simply because of the D are less likely to turn out to vote than those who oppose McCain because of his R
guitrguy
07-03-2008, 10:46 PM
True, I work with some pretty conservative people who don't like McCain enough to vote.
Invicta_Veritas
07-03-2008, 11:06 PM
True, I work with some pretty conservative people who don't like McCain enough to vote.
I would rather not vote for McCain (I think he's too wishy-washy on a lot of things), but Obama scares me enough to do so.
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 11:18 PM
lol youre scared into voting?
that's funny since it implies that you expect your vote to matter
Invicta_Veritas
07-03-2008, 11:19 PM
Not voting accomplishes nothing when you are in dire need of not having a president like Obama.
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 11:22 PM
likewise voting accomplishes nothing
clown_phobia
07-03-2008, 11:23 PM
lol youre scared into voting?
that's funny since it implies that you expect your vote to matter
Every vote counts, and every vote counts the same
Reaganista
07-03-2008, 11:25 PM
even if that were true that's a perfect example of why expecting your vote to matter is stupid
Dr Hooch
07-04-2008, 02:47 AM
Every vote counts, and every vote counts the same
absolutely
that is to say
zero
Iscariot
07-04-2008, 02:47 AM
The American people generally don't agree with Obama on anything, they're just willing to vote for him because McCain resembles Bush, and Bush is supposedly a "NAZI" (or that's what half of UW thinks).
Which goes to show how ignorant the American people are as a whole.
i agree with obama on everything
and steve post on your normal account this gimmick is failing miserably
Iscariot
07-04-2008, 03:11 AM
ok srs question guys this is kind of an emergency
can drinking cause bad circulation because all of a sudden my right foot is going numb and nothing i do is waking it back up
Iscariot
07-04-2008, 03:13 AM
nvm the feeling came back it was only for about 5 minutes so no real damage should have been done
griftadan
07-04-2008, 03:16 AM
so basically your foot fell asleep
Hababi
07-04-2008, 07:59 AM
nobody cares about offshore drilling
tell that to the 3/4ths of the country that support it.
totah
07-04-2008, 01:21 PM
Rulers in (honest) representative democracies are not supreme by any means.
Which honest representative democracies?
Furthermore, not all democracies are created equal. If I remember correctly, there were a lot of people in Sweden's national law enforcement agency who complained loudly about the idea of Internet surveillance. That's unimaginable here.
I don't understand the relevance to what I was saying.
In good democracies, the corrupt and stupid eventually get shoved out, even if it takes a little while.
Again, which good democracies does this happen in?
Personally, I would rather have anarchism but, for it to be successful in the long run, it would require human behavior to be regulated either with genetic engineering or with cybernetics. Currently, humans think with their guts and genitalia too much to be trusted with anarchy.
That's not true. There've been enough social movements in the past to prove that people can modify and improve their own behaviour. I do it all the time, I see other people do it too. It's just a matter of self-consciousness and socio-organic moral development (that means your direct society developing a moral/ethical code organically, without the influence of authoritarian institutions like the state or religion).
For that reason, I want to live in a democracy that isn't dysfunctional (like Canada) and put my trust in science to better our condition. I want a peaceful, decent country where I can do research and not worry about the gubbermint ripping me off or spying on me.
Then you're out of luck mate.
That's a reasonable and realistic expectation. Functioning anarchism is a long way off, buddy.
Everything is as far away as we make it. Functioning anarchism would be that much closer if people like you were willing to work towards it instead of sitting around dreaming about it and trying to find easier alternatives.
1338 h4x0r
07-04-2008, 01:57 PM
Which honest representative democracies?
Canada and basically everything in Western Europe, for instance.
...Norway?
I don't understand the relevance to what I was saying.
Well, they clearly weren't grasping for power.
Again, which good democracies does this happen in?
^^^
That's not true. There've been enough social movements in the past to prove that people can modify and improve their own behaviour. I do it all the time, I see other people do it too. It's just a matter of self-consciousness and socio-organic moral development (that means your direct society developing a moral/ethical code organically, without the influence of authoritarian institutions like the state or religion).
It tends to dissolve in the long run.
Human nature should, in part, be abolished. However, the technology does not exist yet.
Then you're out of luck mate.
If I die an angry man, it won't be because I can't find a decent democracy to live in.
Everything is as far away as we make it. Functioning anarchism would be that much closer if people like you were willing to work towards it instead of sitting around dreaming about it and trying to find easier alternatives.
I'll be too busy being crushed under the cruel heel of the maniacal Canadian dictatorship tbh
I have realistic goals to work on in the mean time
Akira
07-04-2008, 03:32 PM
So, I'm not one to be happy when people die, but I wouldn't exactly shed a tear if Jessie Helms was down in hell getting sodomized by two married black guys right now.
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