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totah
02-28-2008, 10:29 AM
There's always one...

Mr. Ron
02-28-2008, 11:05 AM
JeAlOuS

totah
02-28-2008, 11:19 AM
ME!? JEALOUS?! You wish, porky!

Anyway, I won't be there, I'll be cycling around giving out sandwiches to our brave boys. Vegan, of course. With complimentary cocktails, to keep them warm when they're out in the cold.

Against Miik!
02-28-2008, 11:24 AM
I'm going to see Michelle Obama today.

totah
02-28-2008, 11:32 AM
Is she fit?

Against Miik!
02-28-2008, 11:41 AM
I'll let you know

totah
02-28-2008, 11:53 AM
Ok. Plow it. Plow it good. Plow it like a good boy should.

Dr Hooch
02-28-2008, 12:12 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/2174568925_20a4057c6b.jpg

Dave de Sylvia
02-28-2008, 12:16 PM
She totally ripped off Lenny Kravitz's hairdo.

1338 h4x0r
02-28-2008, 12:17 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uTZLNTwQnVQ

lol

totah
02-28-2008, 01:19 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/2174568925_20a4057c6b.jpg

He looks like a slightly browned out Bush.

Speaking of bush, http://www.southernexposure.com/Merchant2/graphics/spicybushbasil.jpg

ringworm
02-28-2008, 01:44 PM
lol, i love how they make it out like she's anti american or used to be

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7WNGjawtP48&feature=related



My weekly Real Time links
part 2 has some good stuff, Tom Brokaw talks about smoking weed :lol:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QorQUE_gWf8&feature=related

Smokey D
02-28-2008, 06:59 PM
but doesnt that back our claim that the carbon tax wont really reduce emissions?

That probably depends on how seriously national governments take the issue.

But even if it doesn't, a tax could be used to pay for activities which offset emissions, like tree planting or development of non-polluting energy sources.

Mr. Ron
02-28-2008, 07:02 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uTZLNTwQnVQ

lol

lmao

spitfirejunky
02-28-2008, 08:33 PM
The Gateway Support one remains a classic.

1338 h4x0r
02-28-2008, 08:39 PM
BUT I HOPE YOU LEAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR MY FIST BECAUSE I'M GOING TO RAM IT INTO YOUR STOMACH!

I like how people get fooled so easily even when the clips on the soundboard obviously have different kinds of white noise in the background

spitfirejunky
02-28-2008, 09:46 PM
Now, I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions, and I'd like to have them answered immediately...

Who is your daddy, and what does he do?

1338 h4x0r
02-28-2008, 10:40 PM
STOP IT!

WHO ARE YOU?

Mr. Ron
02-28-2008, 10:43 PM
Today was just one of those days where you realize that the world is completely and utterly absurd.

1338 h4x0r
02-28-2008, 10:58 PM
Today was just one of those days where you realize that the world is completely and utterly absurd.

...and I'll be there to punch faithfully on the old soundboard

MY DATABASE DOES NOT ENCOMPASS THE DYNAMICS OF HUMAN PEER BONDING

Mr. Ron
02-28-2008, 11:00 PM
<33

1338 h4x0r
02-28-2008, 11:03 PM
SIEG!
(HEIL!)

SIEG!
(HEIL!)

SIEG!
(HEIL!)

dei
02-28-2008, 11:47 PM
Your Nazi stuff is getting kind of old, bro.

Just sayin'.

big80smullet
02-28-2008, 11:51 PM
theres a massive moth in my room. im gonna catch him and force him into subservience

1338 h4x0r
02-28-2008, 11:58 PM
Your Nazi stuff is getting kind of old, bro.

Just sayin'.

STOP WHINING!

dei
02-29-2008, 12:50 AM
Well, man, I've only been back a day or two and already I'm tired of it.

1338 h4x0r
02-29-2008, 12:55 AM
STOP IT!

STOP WHINING!

LET ME TALK TO YOUR MOTHER!

GET YOUR MOTHER, PLEASE.

dei
02-29-2008, 12:56 AM
Oh, I know what you're doing.

1338 h4x0r
02-29-2008, 12:58 AM
YOU LACK DISCIPLINE.

ONE OF US IS IN DEEP TROUBLE.

totah
02-29-2008, 03:31 AM
That probably depends on how seriously national governments take the issue.

But even if it doesn't, a tax could be used to pay for activities which offset emissions, like tree planting or development of non-polluting energy sources.

Emission Offsets are the biggest greenwash lie ever told. Now, just repeat the idea to yourself in as simple a form as you can put it:

"We release lots of toxic chemicals and burned carbon into the air, the sea and the earth. If we plant more trees that will sort it out."

It's absolute silliness. It's just a propaganda device that's used to appeal to the tree-hugger in all of us. Don't fall for it.

theres a massive moth in my room. im gonna catch him and force him into subservience

I'll call the Animal Liberation Front on you. They'll nail you to teh George Washington bridge by your ears so that when the tide comes up your shoes will get full of water. Death is too good for moth exploiters.

Dr Hooch
02-29-2008, 08:03 AM
Unless we're gonna start planting trees quicker than we cut them down it's not possible to offset anything

McP3000
02-29-2008, 08:32 AM
1338 H4x0r is bending the very fibers that are my nerves

dei
02-29-2008, 08:34 AM
A plague on your house, 1338 H4x0r.

McP3000
02-29-2008, 08:36 AM
Ill get my local rabbi to sick some mean plagues on your bitch ***

1338 h4x0r
02-29-2008, 09:11 AM
1338 H4x0r is bending the very fibers that are my nerves

WHAT THE **** DID I DO WRONG?

Knifeboy
02-29-2008, 09:18 AM
Hahahahaha.. I just saw two naked men wrestling on norwegian television..
That was the biggest wtf moment I've had in a long time..
Naked men in what could look like sexual positions on tv at 4 pm

McP3000
02-29-2008, 09:19 AM
WHAT THE **** DID I DO WRONG?
You are doing it wrong
Hahahahaha.. I just saw two naked men wrestling on norwegian television..
That was the biggest wtf moment I've had in a long time..
Naked men in what could look like sexual positions on tv at 4 pm
told you socialism was for homos

1338 h4x0r
02-29-2008, 09:21 AM
You are doing it wrong

NEGATIVE

McP3000
02-29-2008, 09:22 AM
NEGATIVE
POSTIVE

Knifeboy
02-29-2008, 09:22 AM
At least we don't censor our television :p

Reminds me how a danish television once aired german porn right after Teletubies by accident, because someone ****ed up and left porn and teletubies on the same tape
They apologized heavily for that one

McP3000
02-29-2008, 09:23 AM
At least we don't censor our television :p

Reminds me how a danish television once aired german porn right after Teletubies by accident, because someone ****ed up and left porn and teletubies on the same tape
They apologized heavily for that one
Ummm, porn should be censored from the main channels of TV :/

not to mention the people who did that are insanely stupid

1338 h4x0r
02-29-2008, 09:25 AM
POSTIVE

WHO ARE YOU?

McP3000
02-29-2008, 09:27 AM
WHO ARE YOU?
WHO WHO, WHO WHO?

Knifeboy
02-29-2008, 09:28 AM
Ummm, animal photographs should be censored from the main channels of TV :/

No, they should be allowed to air pornographic content, but only after a certain hour


not to mention the people who did that are insanely stupid


Oh, no doubt about it, it was ridiculous, but also quite hilarious

dei
02-29-2008, 09:28 AM
LENIN NO MARX

McP3000
02-29-2008, 09:31 AM
No, they should be allowed to air pornographic content, but only after a certain hour
Yes, but not on NBC or CBS equivalents.
But then again they shouldn't be forced :/

IM SO CONFLICTED

Oh, no doubt about it, it was ridiculous, but also quite hilarious
was it skinemax style or hardcore?

dei
02-29-2008, 09:34 AM
They should be allowed to show pr0n on the television without having to subscribe to some weird package. If parents don't want their kids to watch it, they can block it from their end.

Knifeboy
02-29-2008, 09:40 AM
Yes, but not on NBC or CBS equivalents.
But then again they shouldn't be forced :/

IM SO CONFLICTED

Our equivalents to NBC or CBS have chosen not to show porn out of their own will, while some smaller independant channels air cheap porn after midnight

was it skinemax style or hardcore?

I have no idea, I never saw it myself, sadly.. And I don't imagine they got to air more than a couple of minutes before the error was corrected

totah
02-29-2008, 10:01 AM
whats so bad about porn? as long as consenting adults are taking part in sex and decide to film it, and another consenting adult wants to watch it, then there's no moral dilemma. And if they don't want to watch it, they shouldn't have the TV on anyway, cos everyone knows TV is stupidening.

big80smullet
02-29-2008, 10:18 AM
I dont mind them putting porn on TV. i mean over here they air danish and swedish movies on SBS and thats basically putting porn on ^_^ but i dont think governments should have any say in what is actually put on TV past before 8:30 you cant show nudity violence sex etc

Mr. Ron
02-29-2008, 10:19 AM
oh Noes The Human Figure Is Gross

1338 h4x0r
02-29-2008, 10:28 AM
Yeah, I agree tbqh

big80smullet
02-29-2008, 10:49 AM
there was two sweet movies on SBS tonight. One spanish one about a chick who becomes a dominatrix and one about a dude who loses 220 billion dollars of mafia money on the stock exchange and has to live in switzerland for them :lol: quality

Reaganista
02-29-2008, 10:56 AM
Ummm, porn should be censored from the main channels of TV :/
wtf is wrong with you
porn should be on every channel all the time
every show should be required to have some sort of pornographic content

i mean this

YDtoad
02-29-2008, 11:29 AM
No, they should be allowed to air animal photographsographic content, but only after a certain hour



because kids don't stay up late:amaze:

I don't get the whole arbitrary time-frame argument. "ok, nothing before 8:30...but as soon as the clock hits that time, 's all good!"

If you believe that it's inapropriate then stick with that viewpoint. Tbh I'm still mulling over how much of a role I want the government to have in regulating television. On one hand, I think the market allows for society to employ a decent level of censorship...but on the other hand, having a free for all would have tremendous consequences for the health of society. We shouldn't be a society that televises homeless people beating each other for alcohol, and prisoners being executed. And if there were no censorship, those would both end up on tv.

McP3000
02-29-2008, 11:31 AM
wtf is wrong with you
porn should be on every channel all the time
every show should be required to have some sort of pornographic content

i mean this
i dont want my penis to have chaffing scars are you mad?

dei
02-29-2008, 11:54 AM
Sex is nowhere near as "bad" as violence.

Knifeboy
02-29-2008, 12:02 PM
because kids don't stay up late:amaze:

Most kids are probably out cold at midnight

1338 h4x0r
02-29-2008, 12:05 PM
Sex is nowhere near as "bad" as violence.

Noh wei

Violence rules

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nLGjKIE4B7k

and

http://youtube.com/watch?v=On9PxneLJoc

totah
02-29-2008, 06:00 PM
I Am An Eco-Worrier! Hear Me Roar!

PerpetualBurn
02-29-2008, 06:19 PM
I am Womaniser, hear me whore.

spitfirejunky
02-29-2008, 07:58 PM
WHO WHO, WHO WHO?

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo are you...

I had a talk with some homeschooled fundamentalist Christian on LOTRO today.

Dr Hooch
02-29-2008, 08:36 PM
Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo are you...

I had a talk with some homeschooled fundamentalist Christian on LOTRO today.

Well everyone in this situation is a winner

Reaganista
02-29-2008, 09:19 PM
i dont want my penis to have chaffing scars are you mad?
you dont have to masturbate every time you see porn

Der Übermensch
03-01-2008, 01:00 AM
Yopu don't!? Wow... whate a waste of time I've had...

spitfirejunky
03-01-2008, 02:07 AM
Well everyone in this situation is a winner

It was intense. I've never communicated with someone so hopelessly brainwashed. Just exposing some of the most simple logical inconsistencies in his argument confused him and/or annoyed him.

pedro durruti
03-01-2008, 03:26 AM
Yopu don't!? Wow... whate a waste of time I've had...
What a ****ing good time I've had
I want to become a women to fulfill lesbian fantisys.
I told my mom that this night and she said I'd make a good lesbian

big80smullet
03-01-2008, 05:46 AM
this thread went to ****.

bourbon is so much nicer than other spirits. Discuss bourbons merits relative to other spirits

Dr Hooch
03-01-2008, 05:56 AM
It's rank?

totah
03-01-2008, 06:16 AM
Are you an anarchist yet? My wrist is starting to hurt.

big80smullet
03-01-2008, 06:32 AM
Bourbon is not ****in rank you douche its amazing

big80smullet
03-01-2008, 06:54 AM
negged like a mofo. enjoy you negative rep you massive fagget. bourbon is so nice. admittedly i prefer a nice beer (ie not american) but bourbon is second best and no hangovers is a bonus. So in conclusion go back toyour bedroom so your uncle knows where to find you when he gets horny.

totah
03-01-2008, 09:07 AM
Why did Vessel of Abaddon get banned?!! Nazi mods.

Pariah
03-01-2008, 09:28 AM
For misspelling "abandon".

totah
03-01-2008, 10:00 AM
I guess that's fair enough. I did spot a few ballistic apostrophes on his part, too.

Dr Hooch
03-01-2008, 11:06 AM
Are you an anarchist yet? My wrist is starting to hurt.

I can't identify as an anarchist but i can't identify as anything because i'm such a misanthropist...

Also just being an anarchist doesn't mean i'm going to start tossing you off, so your wrist is going to keep on hurting for a while

dei
03-01-2008, 11:21 AM
I remember when anarchism was cool.

totah
03-01-2008, 02:03 PM
I remember when anarchism was cool.

Then you're a bit old for the internet, aren't you grandpa?

Smokey D
03-01-2008, 07:35 PM
Emission Offsets are the biggest greenwash lie ever told. Now, just repeat the idea to yourself in as simple a form as you can put it:

" We release lots of toxic chemicals and burned carbon into the air, the sea and the earth.If we plant more trees that will sort it out."

It's absolute silliness. It's just a propaganda device that's used to appeal to the tree-hugger in all of us. Don't fall for it.

Well, I see 3 options.

1) We release lots of toxic chemicals and burned carbon into the air, the sea and the earth. And do nothing about it.
2) We release lots of toxic chemicals and burned carbon into the air, the sea and the earth. And try and do somethings about it.
3)We don't release lots of toxic chemicals and burned carbon into the air, the sea and the earth, but we have to give up modernity.

We know which one you want, but you're one of maybe 3 people so I dunno if we can listen to you.\

Unless we're gonna start planting trees quicker than we cut them down it's not possible to offset anything

That's some pretty fallacious reasoning.

We can't fix everything so therefore we shouldn't try to fix anything is a terrible way to think.

Plus you guys are too fixated on the trees and not enough on the 'development of non-polluting energy production'

Dr Hooch
03-01-2008, 07:47 PM
That's some pretty fallacious reasoning.

We can't fix everything so therefore we shouldn't try to fix anything is a terrible way to think.

Plus you guys are too fixated on the trees and not enough on the 'development of non-polluting energy production'

I'm not saying they shouldn't do it

I'm saying they shouldn't use it to pretend they're not terrible earth ruining people like the rest of us


Also all 3 of your options end up with the fall of modernity one way or another

Smokey D
03-01-2008, 08:05 PM
Also all 3 of your options end up with the fall of modernity one way or another

That depends on how good we get at offsetting pollution/devising ways of producing energy and consumables without pollution.

But also, just because it's going to end doesn't mean we shouldn't try and slow the process.

The sun's going to blow up one day, but it doesn't mean we should give up and and kill one another now.

Mr. Ron
03-01-2008, 08:08 PM
That depends on how good we get at offsetting pollution/devising ways of producing energy and consumables without pollution.

But also, just because it's going to end doesn't mean we shouldn't try and slow the process.

The sun's going to blow up one day, but it doesn't mean we should give up and and kill one another now.
Unless we could make some sort of Mad max world possible. The I'm all for it and buying a loincloth.

gregulus
03-01-2008, 08:13 PM
Planting trees may help curve some of the effects, but certainly not all. Plus, trees are being cut down at an alarming pace, at least here in the United States, for subdivisions, shopping centers, etc. The main focus in stemming global warming is cutting back carbon emissions, as the carbon cycle is incredibly long. That, coupled with trying to take the CO2 out of the atmosphere, is our best bet. As of right now, though, I'm inclined to say that a new equilibrium will be established at a higher temperature regardless of what we do. The only thing we can realistically hope to do is lessen the extent of the shift.

On an unrelated note, people who still maintain that global warming is nothing more then the cyclical tilt and orbit of the earth are just kidding themselves. Pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere is not going to be a negligible thing. That said, can global warming be attributed SOLELY to greenhouse gasses? Of course not. Does that mean they should be disregarded? Only a fool would say yes.

1338 h4x0r
03-01-2008, 08:14 PM
Unless we could make some sort of Mad max world possible. The I'm all for it and buying a loincloth.

Nah dude

A Riddley Walker world would be better

Mad Max actually references Riddley Walker at some point iirc

Mr. Ron
03-01-2008, 08:15 PM
Nah dude

A Riddley Walker world would be better

touche my friend, touche.

1338 h4x0r
03-01-2008, 08:16 PM
If you haven't read that book you should

Srsly bro

Smokey D
03-01-2008, 08:18 PM
Planting trees may help curve some of the effects, but certainly not all. Plus, trees are being cut down at an alarming pace, at least here in the United States, for subdivisions, shopping centers, etc. The main focus in stemming global warming is cutting back carbon emissions, as the carbon cycle is incredibly long. That, coupled with trying to take the CO2 out of the atmosphere, is our best bet. As of right now, though, I'm inclined to say that a new equilibrium will be established at a higher temperature regardless of what we do. The only thing we can realistically hope to do is lessen the extent of the shift.

I feel I have been misrepresented.

When I said 'planting trees' I was not stating all the methods that might be attempted in reducing C02 emissions. I was talking more broadly about carbon sequestration, its methods and possible research avenue.

Mr. Ron
03-01-2008, 08:19 PM
If you haven't read that book you should

Srsly bro
I've heard about it and it's on my "to read" list.

1338 h4x0r
03-01-2008, 08:24 PM
I've heard about it and it's on my "to read" list.

The 's'-word is in that story many times

Heads up bro, it's intense

Mr. Ron
03-01-2008, 08:27 PM
I cannot, and will not read such filth. A PLAGUE UPON YOUR HOUSE HAX0R.

1338 h4x0r
03-01-2008, 08:31 PM
I cannot, and will not read such filth. A PLAGUE UPON YOUR HOUSE HAX0R.

14 WORDS, HEIL ODIN

Mr. Ron
03-01-2008, 08:33 PM
14 WORDS, HEIL ODIN

(@_@)/

1338 h4x0r
03-01-2008, 08:35 PM
np: Burzum - Wuotans Tod

I couldn't help myself

Smokey D
03-01-2008, 08:36 PM
Quit it.

1338 h4x0r
03-01-2008, 08:36 PM
Shouldn't I 'hit it' first?

dei
03-01-2008, 10:51 PM
OK, that **** is getting old. Move on to something new.

Dr Hooch
03-02-2008, 03:46 AM
h4x you're not being funny.

totah
03-02-2008, 05:31 AM
Well, I see 3 options.

1) We release lots of toxic chemicals and burned carbon into the air, the sea and the earth. And do nothing about it.
2) We release lots of toxic chemicals and burned carbon into the air, the sea and the earth. And try and do somethings about it.
3)We don't release lots of toxic chemicals and burned carbon into the air, the sea and the earth, but we have to give up modernity.

We know which one you want, but you're one of maybe 3 people so I dunno if we can listen to you.\



That's some pretty fallacious reasoning.

We can't fix everything so therefore we shouldn't try to fix anything is a terrible way to think.

Plus you guys are too fixated on the trees and not enough on the 'development of non-polluting energy production'

We don't need to give up modernity, but we need to give up capitalism. It's capitalism that's stuck in this cycle of resource and consume thats causing so much pollution.

I don't have time to get into it now, but here's a link: http://afed.org.uk/ace/april.pdf

It's long but very thorough.

dei
03-02-2008, 08:53 AM
Capitalism is wrong.

Dr Hooch
03-02-2008, 09:04 AM
People are wrong

Too unpredictable

Too many wave functions

dei
03-02-2008, 09:08 AM
Let's destroy them.

Dr Hooch
03-02-2008, 09:43 AM
Neutralise them

Let's get Psi^2 = 0

Knifeboy
03-02-2008, 12:23 PM
oh gee, i wonder who that is

1338 h4x0r
03-02-2008, 03:24 PM
OK, that **** is getting old. Move on to something new.

BLACK POWER!

dei
03-02-2008, 03:33 PM
Yeah, that's not funny either.

1338 h4x0r
03-02-2008, 03:35 PM
Yeah, that's not funny either.

So?

http://hitlerclub.ytmnd.com/

Reaganista
03-02-2008, 05:04 PM
oh gee, i wonder who that is

who is it

dei
03-02-2008, 09:45 PM
Reaganista.

totah
03-04-2008, 11:19 AM
Lulz, wave functions is what you gets on vibrators.

Incidentally, did ya'll know that silicon is the best material for vibrators and dildos? It doesn't scratch, doesn't lose colour, doesn't crack, doesn't pick up dust and dirt, is waterproof, and has a cool name.

That's right, I'm working in a sex shop now, temp'rary like, anyone got a problem with that?

Dr Hooch
03-04-2008, 11:23 AM
Silicon is also extremely useful for other things do to it's extremely useful physical properties, and it is a waste for animals such as yourself to use it for pleasure.


Also have you told them to try teflon?

totah
03-04-2008, 11:25 AM
Haha, bulletproof vibrators for the adventurous 3rd World traveller?

I heard where this one guy used to travel around with a suitcase full of dildos and vibrators, but he also had a passion for poppers, he had loads in the case. Then one time the poppers got smashed in the case and all his toys came out yellow. Wouldn't have happened to silicon.

beso negro
03-06-2008, 07:53 AM
k guys should i do my persuasive speech on why gay marriage should be legal, or on net neutrality?

Gay marriage: this would be an easy topic for me because i feel very strongly one way. but the bad thing is I don't want to hurt any ones feelings when i say that they are stupid for letting religion cloud their brains on this issue.

Net neutrality: I could get everybody in the audience on my side with this. But it's a complicated issue and it's not one of those things where you can just pick one side.

so which one? or should i pick neither and go to a different topic?

ringworm
03-06-2008, 08:02 AM
Did anyone see this last night?
http://www.sho.com/site/schedules/product_page.do?seriesid=0&episodeid=131464



Here is the trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5am_VXd2ik



It isnt so much about the war on drugs as it is stating that the same powers that fight against drugs, are the ones that brought the drugs in to sale to us. Some of the evidence was bizarre to say the least. Highly recommend watching this show if you can find it.

Opium production was almost non existent in Afghanistan, that is until the US went in after 9/11, now its back on top, hmm. Some of the CIA operations that were bringing it back to sell in the states during the Iran/Contra saga was ridiculous.

From Pres Bush Senior to R Regan and even Bill Clinton, they were all profiting from drug imports. It even implies that the drug war was starting to loose its strength in generating revenue, now terrorism is the new money maker.


Bill Clinton's term saw the highest imprisonment rate of a 20 year stretch for drug related crimes. Non violent, drug convictions were at a all time high.

totah
03-06-2008, 10:39 AM
Umm, everyone knows this don't they. This is way old news. Like before-I-was-born old. Reagan and Thatcher introduced heroin to the ghettos to addict, criminalise and therefore control the poor populations. I read part of a research paper where there was a survey of junkies in Hackney (poor neighbourhood in East London) and a few other working class areas around the UK in the 80s and 90s in which they saw the availability of heroin and crack rise during periods of civil unrest. Like during the poll tax riots many poor areas got flooded with heroin.

Mr. Ron
03-06-2008, 10:55 AM
Are there any reliable sources that will confirm that? ^^^

Dr Hooch
03-06-2008, 11:11 AM
Umm, everyone knows this don't they. This is way old news. Like before-I-was-born old. Reagan and Thatcher introduced heroin to the ghettos to addict, criminalise and therefore control the poor populations. I read part of a research paper where there was a survey of junkies in Hackney (poor neighbourhood in East London) and a few other working class areas around the UK in the 80s and 90s in which they saw the availability of heroin and crack rise during periods of civil unrest. Like during the poll tax riots many poor areas got flooded with heroin.

"correlation"

"causation"

THEY HAVE A ROCKY RELATIONSHIP

and uh

sometimes they like to follow eachother round but

can be pretty tough

working out which is in front bro

Reaganista
03-06-2008, 11:18 AM
Are there any reliable sources that will confirm that? ^^^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_contra
look at the references section

Mr. Ron
03-06-2008, 06:36 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_contra
look at the references section


hah, doesn't surprise me in the least.



"In 2004, Gary Webb committed suicide by shooting himself twice in the head"
wtf?

Dr Hooch
03-06-2008, 08:30 PM
hah, doesn't surprise me in the least.



"In 2004, Gary Webb committed suicide by shooting himself twice in the head"
wtf?

"best suicide, 2004"

Bron-Yr-Aur
03-06-2008, 08:53 PM
blotched the first shot obviously

Dr Hooch
03-06-2008, 09:05 PM
blotched the first shot obviously

"least accurate 2007"

Mr. Ron
03-06-2008, 09:10 PM
blotched the first shot obviously

I don't even know how that is possible. haha

Smokey D
03-06-2008, 09:32 PM
Aren't there quite a few cases of people living for years with bullets lodged in their brains? Destroying the brain stem is the only sure way to halt the process of life.

Mr. Ron
03-06-2008, 09:33 PM
Aren't there quite a few cases of people living for years with bullets lodged in their brains? Destroying the brain stem is the only sure way to halt the process of life.

Yes, but I think its just funny that there are people that can't even kill themselves properly.

ringworm
03-07-2008, 10:13 AM
Umm, everyone knows this don't they. This is way old news
i guess i was under a rock :lol:


but the showtime special was still a good watch, many other topics were covered

Hababi
03-07-2008, 09:24 PM
http://break.com/index/puppies-get-revenge-on-marine.html

Dr Hooch
03-07-2008, 09:58 PM
http://break.com/index/puppies-get-revenge-on-marine.html

hahahaha

finally a constructive response to that video

Mr. Ron
03-08-2008, 08:57 PM
haha that video rules.




Oh geez, Hannity just had some fear mongering video presentation on FOX about Obama's friendship with that weather underground guy. He made it seem like Obama would sponsor terrorism or something.

McP3000
03-08-2008, 11:53 PM
haha that video rules.




Oh geez, Hannity just had some fear mongering video presentation on FOX about Obama's friendship with that weather underground guy. He made it seem like Obama would sponsor terrorism or something.
Wait, HE DOESNT?!

1338 h4x0r
03-09-2008, 12:17 AM
Yes, but I think its just funny that there are people that can't even kill themselves properly.

I know a guy like that. His name is Epic Fail Guy

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ays0Zom68Kc

Dr Hooch
03-09-2008, 05:50 AM
haha that video rules.




Oh geez, Hannity just had some fear mongering video presentation on FOX about Obama's friendship with that weather underground guy. He made it seem like Obama would sponsor terrorism or something.

but isn't obama's motto "if you can't beat them, join them?"

Futue te Ipsum
03-09-2008, 05:57 AM
Like what the Bush administration and Isreal are doing, then?

totah
03-09-2008, 06:48 AM
One thing PC users can do which Mac users can't: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant


EDIT: Don't get me started man. This country is in the ****ing dumps. There's the government screaming abuse at Hamas, saying "Aren't they evil, resorting to violence like that?" when they can't control their own bloody generals who say, and I quote, "The only way to negotiate a cease-fire with Hamas right now is through action, not words." Right, because carrying on fighting is bound to bring a cease-fire along.

And then there's the thousands of Sudanese, Eritrean, Ethiopian and Nigerian refugees that Olmert suddenly made up his mind to arrest. The police deadline is 300 a day, and good luck to them. 80% of the refugees arrested so far have been released with the court ruling that the arrests were illegal.

And then there's the Sherut bus fare. It went up from 6 to 8 shekels on the weekend! And the rent is rising because some American tossers can't keep their economy stable. And everybody's concentrating their TV eye on South America and Putin. Like we don't have enough problems here we have to go half way across the world for some decent problems.

You know there would have been peace here a long time ago if other countries wouldn't have meddled in the first place. International peace conferences are the bane of peace here. One of the banes.

ringworm
03-11-2008, 12:18 PM
Another weekly link :)

Another great show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGvDYKtHyMw

pedro durruti
03-11-2008, 07:11 PM
My despair is just another happiness!

Iskandar
03-12-2008, 05:23 PM
You know there would have been peace here a long time ago if other countries wouldn't have meddled in the first place. International peace conferences are the bane of peace here. One of the banes.Dude, are you in Israel right now?

pedro durruti
03-12-2008, 06:56 PM
Does anyone else like to let their soul ring?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4ltvjOj9m-c

pedro durruti
03-12-2008, 07:10 PM
This one makes my soul feel like a walnut

http://youtube.com/watch?v=R781LDKOVJE&feature=related

totah
03-13-2008, 05:24 AM
Dude, are you in Israel right now?

Nooo, I live in a magical fairy land where the Jews are always right and nobody ever does anything wrong or nasty, except Arabic people. Also, you wouldn't believe the prosperity here.

Oh wait sorry I thought I was Zero for a minute there. Early morning misconceptions, you know how it is. Yeah, I'm in Israhell.

Knifeboy
03-13-2008, 05:47 AM
Soo... Yesterday, four prison guards turned ill after eating a cake, baked by a couple of inmates in a display of "goodwill"..
Turned out it was spiked with narcotics

Funniest **** I've read in a long time!

Dr Hooch
03-13-2008, 06:29 AM
Nooo, I live in a magical fairy land where the Jews are always right and nobody ever does anything wrong or nasty, except Arabic people. Also, you wouldn't believe the prosperity here.

Oh wait sorry I thought I was Zero for a minute there. Early morning misconceptions, you know how it is. Yeah, I'm in Israhell.

It's an israheli!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/Ah1gm35.jpg

big80smullet
03-13-2008, 07:40 AM
its an apache actually

McP3000
03-13-2008, 08:52 AM
either way the helicopter is damn sweet

Dr Hooch
03-13-2008, 01:24 PM
its an apache actually

The IDF almost certaintly use them, if they're american and good.

totah
03-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Yeah, we got helicopter gunships.

But I can tell you're a connossieur [plz how to spell]. Here, let me show you some missiles. Now this one on the left isn't the newest model, that'd be the next one over with the DU head, but it's definitely the best. If what you want is reliable widespread collateral damage over a radius of seventy metres from the, ahem, terrorist hideout, this is your best choice. It burns flesh, it demolishes buildings in seconds, up to forty metres away from the point of impact, and it even leaves behind these neat little mini-bombs, so you can keep the kids entertained, eh? Eh? Keep the kids entertained?

So what do you say sir?

Tyr
03-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Sounds like a blast. I'll take them.

totah
03-13-2008, 05:03 PM
You're an evil evil bastard. You know how many Lebanese kids got killed by those things?! Don't you know they're the most beautiful of the Middle-Eastern peoples? Well, them and the Iranians (and I speak of the Aryans from the North, not those Aryan-Arab halfbreeds who go around chopping goats into perfectly good rice and lentils) are definitely tied. Just google image it.

Tyr
03-13-2008, 05:08 PM
My last girlfriend was an Iranian.

Dr Hooch
03-13-2008, 05:24 PM
Yeah, we got helicopter gunships.

But I can tell you're a connossieur [plz how to spell]. Here, let me show you some missiles. Now this one on the left isn't the newest model, that'd be the next one over with the DU head, but it's definitely the best. If what you want is reliable widespread collateral damage over a radius of seventy metres from the, ahem, terrorist hideout, this is your best choice. It burns flesh, it demolishes buildings in seconds, up to forty metres away from the point of impact, and it even leaves behind these neat little mini-bombs, so you can keep the kids entertained, eh? Eh? Keep the kids entertained?

So what do you say sir?

Meanwhile, deep in the west bank...

"So imagine you're in your house, yeah?"

"yup."

"and now imagine there's a rocket flying towards your house."

"sh!t!"

"Yeah! exactly. So there's a rocket, coming at your house. What do you do?!

"uhmmm... Run?"

"Exactly. So now imagine instead of coming NOW, the rocket's coming tomorrow."

"Balls!"

"So now what do you do?"

"Well, I'd... I'd go and get my stuff, and then i'd leave."

"Right. So now imagine that eventually, a rocket's going to hit your house, but you don't know when."

"I'd... leave?"

"Exactly. So if we fire, say, 100 rockets a week into israel..."

"Then eventually we're going to hit all their houses!"

"Exactly. So you see, any day now, they're all going to leave."

totah
03-13-2008, 05:35 PM
Did you just make that up now? 'Cos that's getting copied, pasted, sent and acreditted [oh God will today never end?!] to me.

Dr Hooch
03-13-2008, 05:52 PM
Did you just make that up now? 'Cos that's getting copied, pasted, sent and acreditted [oh God will today never end?!] to me.

yes, I did write it myself

you're welcome to the credit if it gets me out of a fatwa

Mr. Ron
03-13-2008, 06:59 PM
Meanwhile, deep in the west bank...

"So imagine you're in your house, yeah?"

"yup."

"and now imagine there's a rocket flying towards your house."

"sh!t!"

"Yeah! exactly. So there's a rocket, coming at your house. What do you do?!

"uhmmm... Run?"

"Exactly. So now imagine instead of coming NOW, the rocket's coming tomorrow."

"Balls!"

"So now what do you do?"

"Well, I'd... I'd go and get my stuff, and then i'd leave."

"Right. So now imagine that eventually, a rocket's going to hit your house, but you don't know when."

"I'd... leave?"

"Exactly. So if we fire, say, 100 rockets a week into israel..."

"Then eventually we're going to hit all their houses!"

"Exactly. So you see, any day now, they're all going to leave."

lmfao

big80smullet
03-13-2008, 08:54 PM
lol logic ftw

totah
03-15-2008, 07:15 AM
yes, I did write it myself

you're welcome to the credit if it gets me out of a fatwa

SweetIshotguncredityeah?thanks!

Actually, it's true you know, since 2001 around a quarter of the population of Sderot (the town being most bombed) have moved away.

It's a real shame that the Palestinians don't have anywhere to move away to. This is basically the biggest injustice of this whole conflict. It's that the basic human social ability/right to disassociate yourself from any conflict or other social circumstance is completely denied to the Palestinian people. Israelis can go where they like, but the Palestinians have no choice but to stay and try to make the best of it. Or kill themselves, but that's hardly fair.

big80smullet
03-15-2008, 08:13 AM
killing yourself is always an option. A pretty definite one but an option none the less

totah
03-15-2008, 10:37 AM
Yeah but Israelis have less dramatic options than that, which is the injustice, really.

lfantwister
03-15-2008, 01:06 PM
thats not injustice
that's pragmatism

totah
03-16-2008, 06:07 AM
thats not injustice
that's pragmatism

Pragmatism would be a non-state solution where every village, town and urban neighbourhood was its own centre of government which formed a Middle-Eastern federation of peoples working together for the betterment and comfort of their lives. Anything else is an inefficient waste of time, resources and life.

Haven't seen you in a while. How's college?

dei
03-16-2008, 11:32 PM
So I just found out Barack Obama is black.

totah
03-17-2008, 07:43 AM
I found out he has a penis too. Will their lies never end!?

Dr Hooch
03-19-2008, 02:44 AM
Or did we dig it out a hole in the ground?

totah
03-19-2008, 11:21 AM
Look for the Bong Ra track called Resonance FM Session (I think). It's about Soviet scientists in Siberia drilling a deep hole into Hell. There was this awful grinding repetitive noise coming from it.

pedro durruti
03-21-2008, 04:41 AM
Who invented music???????????
Black people...

dei
03-21-2008, 09:03 AM
Black people invented sunlight.

mph4ever
03-21-2008, 09:08 AM
sunlight invented god

totah
03-21-2008, 02:13 PM
God invented black people. The cycle is endless.

mph4ever
03-21-2008, 05:19 PM
god created people, racism created black people

totah
03-22-2008, 06:59 AM
No I'm pretty sure Africans had dark brown skin before people started calling them n!ggers (or however you want to mark the start of racism).

Cos otherwise it's like saying everyone had the same-colour hair until everyone started telling blonde jokes.

mph4ever
03-22-2008, 08:02 AM
i wonder were neanderthals and humans racist towards one another

dei
03-22-2008, 09:06 AM
Probably.

Der Übermensch
03-22-2008, 01:43 PM
i wonder were neanderthals and humans racist towards one another

I'm pretty sure they warred

totah
03-22-2008, 01:48 PM
I didn't know they were around at the same time. The term evolutionary stage has always been stretched in my mind to a theatrical metaphor where the curtain closes while the stage set is changed.

mph4ever
03-22-2008, 01:48 PM
isn't incredible that we destroyed an entire other species that may very well have been able to live and work and love among us.

PerpetualBurn
03-22-2008, 02:02 PM
Not really.

totah
03-22-2008, 02:06 PM
Not considering the last ten thousand years of continued attempts at destroying each other.

Humankind doesn't have a good record as far as fraternity and cooperation go. It's both a wonder we've got this far and the reason for it.

PerpetualBurn
03-22-2008, 02:27 PM
Intraspecies competition is pretty standard in terms of evolution.

mph4ever
03-22-2008, 02:55 PM
yes, i agree with all of you but surely we are the only species that can and do reflect on the damage we have done in destorying another species for our own interests

Der Übermensch
03-22-2008, 03:07 PM
I didn't know they were around at the same time. The term evolutionary stage has always been stretched in my mind to a theatrical metaphor where the curtain closes while the stage set is changed.

No, they definitely intersected timewise.
Neanderthals aren't our direct evolutionary ancestors anyways, but rather a very recent branch.

gregulus
03-22-2008, 03:26 PM
No, they definitely intersected timewise.
Neanderthals aren't our direct evolutionary ancestors anyways, but rather a very recent branch.
This is correct. We evolved from Homo erectus in Africa, even though Homo erectus had moved out of Africa by that point, too.

PerpetualBurn
03-22-2008, 03:32 PM
yes, i agree with all of you but surely we are the only species that can and do reflect on the damage we have done in destorying another species for our own interests

No, pretty much every species ever in the evolutionary chain has had competition for resources be it with members of its own species, or of others.

mph4ever
03-22-2008, 04:04 PM
the key words were "that can and do reflect on the damage we have done "

i just think its unreal that we are the only ones that can understand the consequences of our actions and yet we are not prepared to use that ability to save ourselves or our planet

Dr Hooch
03-22-2008, 07:24 PM
you give humanity too much credit

PerpetualBurn
03-22-2008, 07:27 PM
Again, in an evolutionary sense, not having such competition would be quite a bad thing.

mph4ever
03-22-2008, 08:22 PM
'cept around here, surely

mph4ever
03-22-2008, 08:23 PM
you give humanity too much credit

'cept around here, surely

guitrguy
03-24-2008, 12:30 PM
K guys, I need your help.

Can someone recommend me some books with information in capital punishment in the far east?

1338 h4x0r
03-24-2008, 01:35 PM
K guys, I need your help.

Can someone recommend me some books with information in capital punishment in the far east?

IANAE

But I like using Google Books search to find titles. So I typed in '"capital punishment" asia OR "far east"' and found a lot of relevant results

Gotta pimp dem Google quizzotez and Boolean operatizzlez

And good ruck!

guitrguy
03-24-2008, 02:01 PM
k, I tried the scholar search, but that came up really general.

1338 h4x0r
03-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Use the Schwartz

guitrguy
03-24-2008, 02:10 PM
I'm thinking I'm just going to have to browse Barnes & Nobles when I get off work.

1338 h4x0r
03-24-2008, 02:15 PM
No, USE THE SCHWARTZ, LONE STARR

guitrguy
03-24-2008, 02:18 PM
Why would I use a misspelled German black?

1338 h4x0r
03-24-2008, 02:21 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Schwartz

guitrguy
03-24-2008, 02:23 PM
a noun describing a person with an unhealthy obsession/ fetish with stuffed otters, coupled with crippling low confidence and neurotic Jewish behavior.

lol, what?

1338 h4x0r
03-24-2008, 02:27 PM
gay definition

use the first one

croniun
03-25-2008, 06:44 PM
how do Muslims feel about dating...and specifically, Muslims dating non-Muslims...

didn't really fell like making a thread about it =/

big80smullet
03-25-2008, 06:47 PM
im sure theyre against it. itll be on here somewhere
http://amboytimes.typepad.com/the_amboy_times/2007/02/the_list_of_thi.html

croniun
03-25-2008, 06:48 PM
yea I figured as much...kinda was hoping there was a loophole somewhere, heh

gregulus
03-25-2008, 06:51 PM
yea I figured as much...kinda was hoping there was a loophole somewhere, heh
I bet it depends on the extent that the religion is taken seriously. If what I am assuming is correct, then try to talk to her (or him?) about it personally.

big80smullet
03-25-2008, 06:52 PM
most likely not

croniun
03-25-2008, 06:52 PM
yea, her...just to clear that up =/

Hababi
03-25-2008, 06:53 PM
convert ;)

croniun
03-25-2008, 06:54 PM
i'm too white, they'd never believe it.

Hababi
03-25-2008, 06:57 PM
Say that you're a really light skinned Tunisian.

gregulus
03-25-2008, 07:19 PM
How Muslim is she? If she has been Americanized at all, your chances are better.

croniun
03-25-2008, 10:01 PM
definitely not hardcore muslim...she's "ahmadi" and they're apparently like the mormons of Islam but hey, she'll take her headcovering off around me ;).

gregulus
03-25-2008, 10:50 PM
definitely not hardcore muslim...she's "ahmadi" and they're apparently like the mormons of Islam but hey, she'll take her headcovering off around me ;).
then i really don't think she'd be too opposed to dating you.

spitfirejunky
03-25-2008, 11:02 PM
how do Muslims feel about dating...and specifically, Muslims dating non-Muslims...

didn't really fell like making a thread about it =/

They're mostly against the latter, usually when it involves a Muslim female dating a male.

totah
03-26-2008, 06:07 PM
Yeah non-Muslim women are allowed to marry into a Muslim family but Muslim women aren't allowed to marry outside of it.

I'd love to score with a Muslim or a religious Jewish babe. It's weird, but knowing that they're covering themselves up for my benefit turns me on even more.

guitrguy
03-26-2008, 06:12 PM
but the religious jew would steal your monies.

totah
03-26-2008, 06:28 PM
That's totally racialist dude! You're an anti-semantic!@!!1

Mr. Ron
03-26-2008, 08:40 PM
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/human-ancestor-fossil-found-in-europe/20080326151409990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

guitrguy
03-26-2008, 09:33 PM
That's totally racialist dude! You're an anti-semantic!@!!1

Who, moi? I am shocked!

nowhesingsnowhesobs
03-28-2008, 08:11 PM
i don't have the energy to trawl through all the current threads. are there any worth a look?

pedro durruti
03-28-2008, 08:15 PM
Your only interests are BANANAS... how would I know

nowhesingsnowhesobs
03-28-2008, 08:21 PM
that's not me, i'm sorry to say. you're right though, i do think with my banana.

don't you all get tired of the same **** being posted over and over again. is serenity still around?

pedro durruti
03-28-2008, 08:24 PM
Yes, he's still around, and he's still a buffoon! What I want is more philosophy but I'm too stupid to think of anything to talk about

nowhesingsnowhesobs
03-28-2008, 08:31 PM
i think i should start an intelligent design thread. those were the days!

what are your main philosophical interests?

pedro durruti
03-28-2008, 08:33 PM
Oranges, sex, gravity, Leibniz's haircut, you

totah
03-29-2008, 04:38 AM
Why tobacco always falls out of the end of an unlit joint no matter how you hold it and wrap it up.

Read: http://imemc.org/article/53788

JohnXDoe
03-29-2008, 03:55 PM
the john mccain banner ad on the topic page is an lol. its like entering a time machine. and cinematic, too

its seeping in...vote mccain....vote mccain.....

totah
03-29-2008, 05:40 PM
I don't get those banners over here. But your Hilary avatar is making me scream bloody murder. Won't you change it for a ha'penny?

Smokey D
03-30-2008, 12:25 AM
I don't know who Moorcock is, but Tolkein is a rank amateur.

Suicide_Commando
03-30-2008, 04:41 AM
check out half chimp half human

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSlTxTNAUFI

1338 h4x0r
03-30-2008, 05:46 AM
non-elite comment is non-elite

Mr. Ron
03-30-2008, 02:51 PM
I don't know who Moorcock is, but Tolkein is a rank amateur.

Wait what

1338 h4x0r
03-30-2008, 05:36 PM
What?

You have indulged shamelessly in non-elitery by smearing the name of Tolkien.

Smokey D
03-31-2008, 02:17 AM
Wait what

Tolkien's writing is terrible. You can't be surprised that I think this. I've said it before.



You have indulged shamelessly in non-elitery by smearing the name of Tolkien.

I think that's the first time anyone's been called non-elitist for not liking Tolkien

And apparently this Moorcock person thought Tolkien wasn't that great either.

irishslappop
03-31-2008, 01:20 PM
yeah guys tolkien sucks. :rolleyes:

how about we talk **** about Sean Connery while we're at it?

gregulus
03-31-2008, 01:40 PM
The Legendarium is the most epic work of fiction ever written.

Mr. Ron
03-31-2008, 01:43 PM
Tolkien's writing is terrible. You can't be surprised that I think this. I've said it before.



I think that's the first time anyone's been called non-elitist for not liking Tolkien

And apparently this Moorcock person thought Tolkien wasn't that great either.

I don't see how his writing is terrible? He's regarded as one of the most important author's in his genre ever.

ringworm
03-31-2008, 03:15 PM
was up peeps

Smokey D
03-31-2008, 05:17 PM
I don't see how his writing is terrible? He's regarded as one of the most important author's in his genre ever.

I disagree with 'most important' necessarily being 'good', at least from a technical point of view.

Mr. Ron
03-31-2008, 05:18 PM
I disagree with 'most important' necessarily being 'good', at least from a technical point of view.

What specifically do you dislike about his writing?

Smokey D
03-31-2008, 05:21 PM
Turgidity. His absolute lack of economy.

Mr. Ron
03-31-2008, 05:23 PM
Turgidity. His absolute lack of economy.

No thats the best part! I love how he over explains everything haha. I think he describes a mountain for a page and a half, and yes, it can get tedious. Although, I guess I'm just biased because lotr was one of my first books that I read and I have a attachment to it. *shrug*

I'm not sure what you mean by economy?

Smokey D
03-31-2008, 05:25 PM
Economy of words.

Mr. Ron
03-31-2008, 05:26 PM
Ahhh ok. I'll admit he has his weak points that get redundant, but he was/is important to the genre. (even if its been beaten to death)

1338 h4x0r
03-31-2008, 06:34 PM
Turgidity. His absolute lack of economy.

what

With an exception for the annoying Biblical prose in the beginning of the Quenta Silmarillion, his language is very sparse and plain, with a strong Anglo-Saxon or Norse feel. Compared to modern authors like George R.R. Martin and Robert Jordan, he is as brief as Hemingway.

Furthermore, he was the first to really develop the legendarium concept, more so than previous authors such as Robert E. Howard. In particular, Quenya and Sindarin are well-developed and give the impression of natural languages.

Anyway, my point about bringing up Tolkien was that his poems, many of which had very good economy of words, are used as lyrics for songs by Summoning, a black metal band.

"The sword is sharp, the spear is long
The arrow swift, the Gate is strong
The heart is bold that looks on gold
The dwarves no more shall suffer wrong"

Smokey D
03-31-2008, 06:43 PM
With an exception for the annoying Biblical prose in the beginning of the Quenta Silmarillion, his language is very sparse and plain, with a strong Anglo-Saxon or Norse feel. Compared to modern authors like George R.R. Martin and Robert Jordan, he is as brief as Hemingway.

Okay, but compared to Hemingway he's as turgid as George Martin or Robert Jordan.

Note I never called them good authors, either. Fantasy in general suffers from gratuitous language.

Furthermore, he was the first to really develop the legendarium concept, more so than previous authors such as Robert E. Howard. In particular, Quenya and Sindarin are well-developed and give the impression of natural languages.


I never said he didn't have a formidable intellect. It doesn't make him a good writer, though.

Anyway, my point about bringing up Tolkien was that his poems, many of which had very good economy of words, are used as lyrics for songs by Summoning, a black metal band.

The poems in Lord of the Rings? I've read better.


"The sword is sharp, the spear is long
The arrow swift, the Gate is strong
The heart is bold that looks on gold
The dwarves no more shall suffer wrong"


Case in point.

1338 h4x0r
03-31-2008, 07:46 PM
Note I never called them good authors, either. Fantasy in general suffers from gratuitous language.

It's 'gratuitous' because it corresponds to a (well-organized) stream of fantastic thoughts. There is so much atmosphere to describe.

That is especially good because I read fiction quickly and only a 900-page+ book will keep me occupied for a long time

I never said he didn't have a formidable intellect. It doesn't make him a good writer, though.

:angry:

The poems in Lord of the Rings? I've read better.

:angry:

Smokey D
03-31-2008, 07:52 PM
It's 'gratuitous' because it corresponds to a (well-organized) stream of fantastic thoughts. There is so much atmosphere to describe.

The best authors can convey profound and intense meaning , at least as much as fantasy authors, with the fewest words possible.

1338 h4x0r
03-31-2008, 08:17 PM
I prefer that style for technical writing

Iskandar
03-31-2008, 08:27 PM
The best authors can convey profound and intense meaning , at least as much as fantasy authors, with the fewest words possible.Yes.

Few things piss me off more than the excessive use of inkhorn terms.

Mr. Ron
03-31-2008, 08:43 PM
I thought you liked lotr?

1338 h4x0r
03-31-2008, 08:50 PM
Yes.

Few things piss me off more than the excessive use of inkhorn terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkhorn_terms

"An inkhorn term is any foreign borrowing (or a word created from existing word roots by an English speaker) into English deemed to be unnecessary or overly pretentious, usually from Latin."

Tolkien was very keen on using 'native' English words—his Rohirrim are said to have represented an Anglo-Saxon people capable of withstanding the Norman Conquest through cavalry—so I'm not sure what you mean. A few of the words he uses are dated (like idk 'kine' or whatever), but hardly what I'd call pretentious.

The only really strange Latinish word I'd ever seen in his writing is 'coeval', and that's really cool. I want to use it everyday.

Smokey D
03-31-2008, 09:30 PM
I have no problem with foreign words. My desire is clarity of expression and it's pretty stupid to say some words originally from Latin or something can't convey meaning more precisely and concisely than Anglo-Saxon terms.

1338 h4x0r
03-31-2008, 10:04 PM
But now a cry went up, passing up the wind from the south from vale to vale, and Elves and Men lifted their voices in wonder and joy. For unsummoned and unlooked for Turgon had opened the leaguer of Gondolin, and was come with an army ten thousand strong, with bright mail and long swords and spears like a forest. Then when Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon his brother, the shadow passed and his heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: `Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!' And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: `Auta i lómë! The night is passing!'

Not hard to read at all, if you ask me.

Smokey D
03-31-2008, 10:08 PM
Difficult? No. Turgid and over wordy? Yes.

1338 h4x0r
03-31-2008, 10:09 PM
How so? He could hardly have spoken plainer.