PNWI Community Thread version 3.0 (KEEP REFRIGERATED AT ALL TIMES)

[The Stig]

It killed was it the raccoon?

[Mr. Ron]

yes

[McP3000]

MX mentality:

Fascism-->Pokemon

[Iskandar]

My party wouldn't need a catchy name.The Neo-Libertarian Reactionary Party representing the Interests of Capital

[The Stig]

I'd never get the vote with that name.

The Friedman Party.

[Iskandar]

I'd never get the vote with that name.

The Friedman Party.You desire to prop up tinpot dictatorships too?

[The Stig]

If you mean give someone economic advice on how not to mess up their country further, than yeah. Besides; Pinochet wasn't all that bad.

[DekWannaBFlea]

Hey everybody. First post in the community forum. I am doing a paper on Mao and did the Maoist period really change China. Not really looking for help (as I have to quote 2 books), but I'd thought I share how nerdy my life is right now. :(

[Iskandar]

If you mean give someone economic advice on how not to mess up their country further, than yeah. Besides; Pinochet wasn't all that bad.Oh. So yeah, propping up a tinpot dictatorship.

Isn't it ironic how hordes of libertarians support a dictator just because he was capitalist and his predecessor wasn't?

[The Stig]

I'll take a tinpot dictatorship over something worse. Isn't it ironic how hordes of socialists lionize Mao and Lenin because they spoke for the proletariats?

I'm working on a paper on how Russian popular culture changed after the NEP and the relation of samizdat publishing to popular culture during the Khrushchev thaw. I also have another major paper about how race relations affected the Pacific Theatre in WWII. I think I trump DekWannaBFlea in nerdiness the next week and two days.

I have five books on the former and three on the latter that need quoting/reading.

[Iskandar]

I'll take a tinpot dictatorship over something worse. Isn't it ironic how hordes of socialists lionize Mao and Lenin because they spoke for the proletariats?No they don't. Not anymore.

[The Stig]

You maybe, but you'd be surprised at people I know who insist Lenin was a good guy and Stalin and Mao were misunderstood.

[DekWannaBFlea]

I'll take a tinpot dictatorship over something worse. Isn't it ironic how hordes of socialists lionize Mao and Lenin because they spoke for the proletariats?

I'm working on a paper on how Russian popular culture changed after the NEP and the relation of samizdat publishing to popular culture during the Khrushchev thaw. I also have another major paper about how race relations affected the Pacific Theatre in WWII. I think I trump DekWannaBFlea in nerdiness the next week and two days.

I have five books on the former and three on the latter that need quoting/reading.


I think you win, lol. Are you taking a Russia in the 20th century class?

[DekWannaBFlea]

You maybe, but you'd be surprised at people I know who insist Lenin was a good guy and Stalin and Mao were misunderstood.

Stalin and Mao were worse than Hitler with regards to the effects on their respective countries. Ex. Purges of Russia and the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward.

[Iskandar]

You maybe, but you'd be surprised at people I know who insist Lenin was a good guy and Stalin and Mao were misunderstood.These guys are what we can deluded fruitcakes.:)

No liberal socialist could ever support the Communist regimes. Period.Stalin and Mao were worse than Hitler with regards to the effects on their country. Ex. Purges of Russia and the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward.Hitler was worse for the entire world, though.

[The Stig]

Right now it's European Popular Culture and a WWI/WWII class. I'd kill for the essay you have I think. I had an idea of Samizdat as popular culture from a 20th century Russian lit class I took Freshman year, but I'm finding it was defined as high culture, so I have to find a good topic for my paper.

Next semester, it's:

Russian Conversation and Composition II
Elementary Polish II
Russia Through the Eyes of Dostoyevski and Tolstoy
History of Modern Russia
Cold War US History


Much more interesting than this semester, I think.


Again, Alex, you'd be surprised at the idiots out here in Georgia. Most of the state may be full of idiot Republicans, but Athens is a bastion of the Dennis Kucinich crowd.

[Iskandar]

Again, Alex, you'd be surprised at the idiots out here in Georgia. Most of the state may be full of idiot Republicans, but Athens is a bastion of the Dennis Kucinich crowd.Kucinich really isn't as extreme as he's painted. I'd consider him center-left.

[DekWannaBFlea]

These guys are what we can deluded fruitcakes.:)

No liberal socialist could ever support the Communist regimes. Period.Hitler was worse for the entire world, though.

Touche. But just remember how large these countries are. Look at China, it is estimated that between 20 and 43 million people died in the Great Leap Forward's famines ALONE. I don't like to compare numbers but Mao's incompetence costs millions of people their lives. Hitler just tried a little harder lol.

[The Stig]

Whatever he is, Kucinich is a nutjob.

[Iskandar]

Touche. But just remember how large these countries are. Look at China, it is estimated that between 20 and 43 million people died in the Great Leap Forward's famines ALONE. I don't like to compare numbers but Mao's incompetence costs millions of people their lives. Hitler just tried a little harder lol.The deaths under Mao were mostly from poorly planned and executed programmes (Great Leap Forward). But Hitler commited systematic, industrial genocide. I think it's safe to say that if he hadn't been stopped, he would have ultimately done far worse than Mao. The Nazis made it their goal to wipe out the Jewish race, and they killed about one-third of it. That's pretty scary.
Kucinich is a nut jobNo more than Ron Paul

[The Stig]

I still don't think he's a perfect candidate.

Anyhow, it's about 2:30 here. I'm out.

[Iskandar]

Here's a lesson in democracy: The perfect candidate doesn't exist.

The NDP doesn't represent every single one of my political convictions, but it does align with a fair few more of them than any other party, so I support them.

[The Stig]

If I were to run, I think I'd comprise the perfect candidate to me.

[DekWannaBFlea]

If I ran I probably wouldn't even support myself lol.

[Iskandar]

If I were to run, I think I'd comprise the perfect candidate to me.Naturally ... you'd be pretty far down on my list, though. Above neo-fascists, neo-conservatives and Marxists at least.

[griftadan]

is it unfashionable to have a pearl harbor party?

[DekWannaBFlea]

is it unfashionable to have a pearl harbor party?

Why not? The Brits celebrate Guy Faux attempting to blow up parliament......

[Iskandar]

is it unfashionable to have a pearl harbor party?This is democracy. You can have any party you wish.

[griftadan]

well really it's stop day at my uni and while it's meant for us to have a chance to study for finals, really it's just an excuse to drink all day long. it just happens to be on dec. 7th so we figured we would try and offend some people.

kamikazes 2 for a dollar

[DekWannaBFlea]

well really it's stop day at my uni and while it's meant for us to have a chance to study for finals, really it's just an excuse to drink all day long. it just happens to be on dec. 7th so we figured we would try and offend some people.

kamikazes 2 for a dollar

I think I will actually use my stop day (the 7th as well) to study for finals. At my university we have been discussing the option of a stop week. Which I think is a good idea......

lol, good luck with your Pearl Harbor party. Just make sure no family of WW2 vets find out.

[Iskandar]

exercise your right to free speech

you live in a free society

[griftadan]

I think I will actually use my stop day (the 7th as well) to study for finals. At my university we have been discussing the option of a stop week. Which I think is a good idea......

lol, good luck with your Pearl Harbor party. Just make sure no family of WW2 find out.

**** that, i am family of ww2 veterans

[Iskandar]

so am i :-/

[guitrguy]

I don't think I am. :(

[ringworm]

i saw some news last night that Russia is going to a one party system and Putin my be pres for life?

also, Venezuela looks like they are finally curbing Hugo's ego

[guitrguy]

The Kremlin crushes opposition, so yeah it basically reverting back to USSR gov't.

[ringworm]

man, what a great job our country is doing at reversing so much progress

I saw a docu recently about Christians in Iraq pre & post Sadam

we just screw up everything

[guitrguy]

nonintervention seems to be a good idea these days.

[ringworm]

i just hope there is a way to reclaim some respect in the future
not that we really had it anyway, many of the old wars we fought were portrayed as heroic and knightly, then we find out that the real reasons for those wars were as dumb as the current one. just a way to boost our economy and finance war spending and put money in politicians pockets

[McP3000]

i just hope there is a way to reclaim some respect in the future
not that we really had it anyway, many of the old wars we fought were portrayed as heroic and knightly, then we find out that the real reasons for those wars were as dumb as the current one. just a way to boost our economy and finance war spending and put money in politicians pockets
Not the main ones (revolutionary, civil, WWI/II)

[ringworm]

i only meant WW1 & 2, they had a different feel to them because of how easily they were portrayed to the public

watch "Flags of Our Fathers" for what I mean, that entire campaign won because of that one picture, the truths of what was really going with the war and why it was being fought were left out

[Der Übermensch]

Because the Japanese weren't committing inhuman atrocities that boggle the mind?
And its not like we decided, "hey, lets war with Japan." Sure we refused to sell them oil, but thats a different issue.

[McP3000]

i only meant WW1 & 2, they had a different feel to them because of how easily they were portrayed to the public

watch "Flags of Our Fathers" for what I mean, that entire campaign won because of that one picture, the truths of what was really going with the war and why it was being fought were left out
You're right. We shouldn't start a war against two of the most disastrously oppress regimes in modern times after they attacked us first.

[guitrguy]

Disastrous in the sense of foreign gov't is too subjective to preemptively start a war.

[McP3000]

Disastrous in the sense of foreign gov't is too subjective to preemptively start a war.
Wait. What are you trying to say? That we should have just bent over after Pearl Harbor?

[guitrguy]

No, you may want to reread what I said.

[Iskandar]

You're right. We shouldn't start a war against two of the most disastrously oppress regimes in modern times after they attacked us first.Except they didn't.

Al-Qaida attacked you, not Afghanistan, and definitely not Iraq.

[Der Übermensch]

Except he was talking about Japan and Nazi Germany...

Japan Attacked Us, and Germany Declared War on US even though they weren't even obligated too cause the Axis alliance was a defensive pact.

[Iskandar]

I apologize. His mangled grammar led me to believe we were talking about the present.

[lfantwister]

Russian Conversation and Composition II
Elementary Polish II
Russia Through the Eyes of Dostoyevski and Tolstoy
History of Modern Russia
Cold War US History

this is weird. i'm taking russian language, history of modern russia, and a dostoevsky class as well next semester

[Iskandar]

My ushanka is right above me on my headboard.

[ringworm]

Wait. What are you trying to say? That we should have just bent over after Pearl Harbor?
uh, someone correct me if I am wrong, werent we sailing around in the Phillipines disrupting trade flows before Pearl Harbor ever happened?

[The Stig]

Because the Japanese weren't committing inhuman atrocities that boggle the mind?
And its not like we decided, "hey, lets war with Japan." Sure we refused to sell them oil, but thats a different issue.

Nanking? POW abuse?

[Hababi]

Cain can't even write a short neg rep comment.

[Iskandar]

Steve's been taking on a very hostile approach lately.

[Hababi]

Steve's been taking on a very hostile approach lately.

stfu I'm very civil

[guitrguy]

You've been pretty assertive about atheists and non-religious users.

[Hababi]

You've been pretty assertive about atheists and non-religious users.

Not near as assertive as some of you guys are about Christians.

[Iskandar]

stfu I'm very civilNo you're not. You used to be a lot friendlier to me.

Incidentally, I was a lot crazier back then ...

[guitrguy]

I know I can get heavy handed sometimes, but I do try to avoid it.

[Hababi]

No you're not. You used to be a lot friendlier to me.

Incidentally, I was a lot crazier back then ...

I was only mean to you when I thought you were a n00b. I subsequently readjusted into the friendly rancor of old.

And from what I can gather, you're basically as crazy now as you were then :o Latest political compass result?


I know I can get heavy handed sometimes, but I do try to avoid it.


As do I :cool:

[Iskandar]

And from what I can gather, you're basically as crazy now as you were then :o Latest political compass result?-5, -7. I'm no more extreme than your average neo-conservative, just in the other direction.

[Hababi]

-5, -7. I'm no more extreme than your average neo-conservative, just in the other direction.

What's your position on Israel/Palestine?

[guitrguy]

Neo-cons have a rep for being rash.

[The Stig]

Who is Cain?

[Iskandar]

What's your position on Israel/Palestine?Two-state solution, same as always. The Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, Israel in the rest.

Come on, I've always supported that and argued in favour of it.

[guitrguy]

He used to be ripper22 a few years ago, and posted in R&M.

[Iskandar]

Neo-cons have a rep for being rash.I'm the opposite of them, though. I'm opposed to like everything they do.

[guitrguy]

You could be rash on the opposite end.

[Hababi]

Who is Cain?

Long-winded idiot poster who seems to dislike me.

Two-state solution, same as always. The Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, Israel in the rest.

Come on, I've always supported that and argued in favour of it.

Yeah but I've also always found you to be unduly harsh on Israel.

[Iskandar]

Yeah but I've also always found you to be unduly harsh on Israel.You find everyone unduly harsh on Israel. But I'm not. I support Israel, and their existence, though I'd rather see Labor in power right now.
You could be rash on the opposite end.I don't think I am.

[guitrguy]

I don't think you are either, I brought it up because I didn't think about opposite degree.

[Iskandar]

I don't think you are either, I brought it up because I didn't think about opposite degree.Meh, whatever floats your boat.

I'd better go soon. Been on the Internet too long.

[guitrguy]

later.

[Dr Hooch]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/skeptical-cat-is-fraught-with-skepticism.jpg

<3

[lfantwister]

Cats are not funny. End of story.

[guitrguy]

lolcat hater.

[Iskandar]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_VstTwFxNKk

[Mr. Ron]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_VstTwFxNKk

lmao I saw that a while ago. Its almost nauseating.

[Iskandar]

lmao I saw that a while ago. Its almost nauseating.I don't see anything wrong with indoctrining our students about the merits of free enterprise and the capitalist work ethic.

After morning prayers, of course.

[Mr. Ron]

Who doesn't enjoy wienies that are bought through capitalistic means? I mean, they just plump better!

[Iskandar]

Capitalism supplies the wieners, all right.

[Mr. Ron]

Heeyyooooooo!

[guitrguy]

:.(

[Iskandar]

The wieners with which the working class is anally penetrated.

Yeah I went there.

[Mr. Ron]

:eek:!

[Iskandar]

I'm a rebel.

Real revolutionary change cannot be enacted until the masses gain consciousness. Let's set the world on fire.

[Mr. Ron]

I don't think the oceans are flammable, sir. :^(

[Iskandar]

I don't think the oceans are flammable, sir. :^(Lol.

I can't stand anarchists.

[Mr. Ron]

As much as I want to agree with them on a lot of things, the concept of anarchism can only be achieved on a relatively small scale. IMO.

[Iskandar]

As much as I want to agree with them on a lot of things, the concept of anarchism can only be achieved on a relatively small scale. IMO.Yeah, and I don't think much of any ideology which is so out-there that it has no relation to the real world.

Anarcho-capitalism comes to mind.

[guitrguy]

Freedom to kill is awesome, I dunno what you guys are talking about.

[Iskandar]

Big Government can't take away some of my freedoms so others can be free! That's tyranny!

From a neoliberal on Facebook the other day:

"Your'e a Statist"

[Dr Hooch]

Big Government can't take away some of my freedoms so others can be free! That's tyranny!

From a neoliberal on Facebook the other day:

"Your'e a Statist"

:lol:

fantastic

[pedro durruti]

As much as I want to agree with them on a lot of things, the concept of anarchism can only be achieved on a relatively small scale. IMO.
Yeah, I don't think anarchism is very achievable either, society is too large, too diverse and too corrupt. Although one of the points of liberal government is to reach a state that provides individual autonomy, so it's an ideal we should always strive towards.
From a neoliberal on Facebook the other day:

"Your'e a Statist"
Lol what I thought neoliberals were libertarian neoconservative statist bastards

[totah]

As much as I want to agree with them on a lot of things, the concept of anarchism can only be achieved on a relatively small scale. IMO.

Real democracy (ie. the kind where people are equal and everyone is in control together) can only be achieved on a small scale as well. Take a cue from the Japanese here. Make it small and make it work well.

And nobody has explained to me why we can't have a worldwide democratic society where every community decides its own fate and links up with other communities who also decide their own fates simply out of mutual interests into one big federated democratic world? This is logical people!

Pedro, you know very well that no individual is truly autonomous while a state exists. That's the whole point of the state.

[PerpetualBurn]

Real democracy (ie. the kind where people are equal and everyone is in control together) can only be achieved on a small scale as well. Take a cue from the Japanese here. Make it small and make it work well.

No real Scotsman.

[Iskandar]

Lol what I thought neoliberals were libertarian neoconservative statist bastardsAy, there's the rub.

I really hate the term "statist." It has no meaning, it's just a slur applied by libertarians or anarchists to refer to anyone who isn't libertarian or anarchist. So according to their logic, I'm the next Stalin because I'm a socialist. Okay.

[Dr Hooch]

Ay, there's the rub.

I really hate the term "statist." It has no meaning, it's just a slur applied by libertarians or anarchists to refer to anyone who isn't libertarian or anarchist. So according to their logic, I'm the next Stalin because I'm a socialist. Okay.

I mean, considering how many reasons there are that you will be the next stalin, they've no excuse for trying a wrong one. :P

[RockAndRoll]

No real Scotsman.

To be fair, as long as he's only arguing that there are logistical problems that make democracy impossible on a large scale and not that if it's on a large scale it's not real democracy then it's not a no true scotsman. Although he would of course have to explain why democracy isn't possible on a large scale.

[Knifeboy]

What's statist supposed to mean anyway?

[Iskandar]

I mean, considering how many reasons there are that you will be the next stalin, they've no excuse for trying a wrong one. :PI'm just as far from Stalin as I am from neo-conservatives.\-:
What's statist supposed to mean anyway?Means you actually think government is a good thing, and can be used to solve problems. Y'know, governing.

[Knifeboy]

... haha... Oh teh noez

STATIST! NANNY STATE! BOOGIE MAN!
AARGH

[Iskandar]

... haha... Oh teh noez

STATIST! NANNY STATE! BOOGIE MAN!
AARGHYeah, pretty much.

Denmark is statist. You're unfree! You need to adopt a libertarian capitalist model, like the United States...

...

[Knifeboy]

It's kinda scary that some danes actually believe that..

It's a lame thing to say, but they really just should move to the united states...

[Iskandar]

It's kinda scary that some danes actually believe that..

It's a lame thing to say, but they really just should move to the united states...It's kinda scary that some Americas actually believe they are "more free" than the rest of the world.

[PerpetualBurn]

To be fair, as long as he's only arguing that there are logistical problems that make democracy impossible on a large scale and not that if it's on a large scale it's not real democracy then it's not a no true scotsman. Although he would of course have to explain why democracy isn't possible on a large scale.

No that would imply that his democracy was "real democracy" and any other conception of democracy wasn't. Which is the problem.

[RockAndRoll]

yeah, nevermind.

[McP3000]

It's kinda scary that some Americas actually believe they are "more free" than the rest of the world.
o.O
As far as im concerned i have more freedoms than a woman in Saudi Arabia...

Yeah, and I don't think much of any ideology which is so out-there that it has no relation to the real world.

Anarcho-capitalism comes to mind.
Communism comes to mind for me.

And nobody has explained to me why we can't have a worldwide democratic society where every community decides its own fate and links up with other communities who also decide their own fates simply out of mutual interests into one big federated democratic world? This is logical people!
No its not. History continues to point to the idea that the smaller amount of people/land a government controls, the more control and freedom the people/land have.
If the world became a large democracy...NOTHING WOULD EVER GET DONE. Talking about the powerful getting more powerful :rolleyes:

Denmark is statist. You're unfree! You need to adopt a libertarian capitalist model, like the United States...
I wish we would...unfortunately we don't

Also, Statist is the dumbest label ever conceived. If someone uses it again, they will be hunted down and killed by Guatemalan mercenaries.

[Knifeboy]

Reading the discussion page on wikipedia for "Statist" was pretty entertaining.. Some nutjob is basicly arguing that Statist describes anyone who isn't 100% liberterian.. Including anarchists.. ?!

[ringworm]

i saw an article (cant find link) where some soldiers where keeping track of injuries or deaths related to gun-fire in Iraq, the stats, when compared to US shootings, showed that people were more likely to get shot in Washington DC than in Iraq, lol.

They are starting a campaign that wants all government employees/officials to pull-out or re-deploy out of the capital. Made me laugh :p

[Dr Hooch]

For the soldiers, maybe. I doubt it a lot for the civilians, and one imagines the roadside bomb rate in washington is a little more modest.

[ringworm]

well, yeah, of course the IED's were left out, they were just making a joke

[Dr Hooch]

Fair enough.

[Iskandar]

o.O
As far as im concerned i have more freedoms than a woman in Saudi Arabia...Yeah, you do.

Not more than the rest of the western world though.
Communism comes to mind for me.Yeah, that too. Do you think I'm a Communist or something?
I wish we would...unfortunately we don'tYeah that sort of thing doesn't exist anymore.
Also, Statist is the dumbest label ever conceived. If someone uses it again, they will be hunted down and killed by Guatemalan mercenaries.Thank you.

[Smokey D]

No its not. History continues to point to the idea that the smaller amount of people/land a government controls, the more control and freedom the people/land have.
If the world became a large democracy...NOTHING WOULD EVER GET DONE. Talking about the powerful getting more powerful

But his idea is that small aggregations of people retain far greater soveignty than they do now, and then use that sovereignty to participate in a larger, more consensus based system of governence, not a single world government.

However, the idea fails because it ignores the identities people attach to themselves and their neighbours, the different needs of different communities (New York versus Bangladesh or some Khoisan in South Africa), the difficulty of preserving true sovereignty in an environment like that and for about a dozen more reasons.

[lfantwister]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cW3sZUHZM9o

i am in there somewhere...

[McP3000]

However, the idea fails because it ignores the identities people attach to themselves and their neighbours, the different needs of different communities (New York versus Bangladesh or some Khoisan in South Africa), the difficulty of preserving true sovereignty in an environment like that and for about a dozen more reasons.
I agree.

[Iskandar]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cW3sZUHZM9o

i am in there somewhere...Don't you recognize your own naked body?

[Mr. Ron]

"They all look the same, like cattle..."

[italic zero]

that's a lot of asses

[Dr Hooch]

Don't you recognize your own naked body?

I don't even recognise my own society =(

:rolleyes:

[hethamulburton]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cW3sZUHZM9o

i am in there somewhere...


I haven't seen so much ***... in my life.

[Hababi]

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2007/12/10/now-lt-i-gt-that-lt-i-gt-s-an-attack-ad.aspx

[Dr Hooch]

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2007/12/10/now-lt-i-gt-that-lt-i-gt-s-an-attack-ad.aspx

so totally fox news

[ringworm]

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2007/12/10/now-lt-i-gt-that-lt-i-gt-s-an-attack-ad.aspx
lol, i saw another sample like that last week with all the hateful campaign slandering, it seemed nastier than todays mud throwing, if that is possible


I gotta find a link to this letter sent to a senator about wanting to become an ILLEGAL immigrant so he could save $20,000 per year in medical, home & auto and receive the numerous scholarships that LEGAL immigrants can never receive. It was great and well written. Some state passed a law that will give millions of $$ in scholarships to illegal immigrants and also make a fine of only $2000 to exempt out of having to pay back & current taxes. The reader said, well, that sounds like NO incentive to EVER become legal.

[Dr Hooch]

How can an illegal immigrant get a scholarship?

They'd have to like, register for that surely

say "hai

I am an illegal immigrant living at this address"

Surely they'd either be madea legal immigrant (w00t)

or deported (boo)

but not like

"ok you can carry on being illegal"

I mean if they're so cool with it why is it illegal

[ringworm]

How can an illegal immigrant get a scholarship?
dude, why do you think the debate is so heated over here?
I'll see if I can find a few links with legislation. It is crazy, but it is happening. Huckabee & Romney got into a large skif over the issue. But there are several states that already found a loophole to allow sholarships for illegal immigrants, taxpayer funded.

[Dr Hooch]

dude, why do you think the debate is so heated over here?
I'll see if I can find a few links with legislation. It is crazy, but it is happening. Huckabee & Romney got into a large skif over the issue. But there are several states that already found a loophole to allow sholarships for illegal immigrants, taxpayer funded.

It's just such a contradiction

I am all for immigration

and doubly all for scholarships for immigrants, to make the most of this resource by fulfilling their potential for a country

but

if they're illegal

how can

they

it just

/sigh.

[guitrguy]

Huckabee wants to make the children of the Illegal Immigrants, who attend American schools for all 13 years of education, eligible for scholarship. The kids can't really be faulted for their parents breaking the law.

[Dr Hooch]

Huckabee wants to make the children of the Illegal Immigrants, who attend American schools for all 13 years of education, eligible for scholarship. The kids can't really be faulted for their parents breaking the law.

That's really sensible

You've paid for them to get this far it seems silly not to cash in on the brain potential

I don't see how someone can live in a country for 13 years and still be an illegal immigrant

[guitrguy]

That's really sensible

You've paid for them to get this far it seems silly not to cash in on the brain potential

I don't see how someone can live in a country for 13 years and still be an illegal immigrant

Coincidently, I believe 14 years is the naturalization length for a legal immigrant.

[ringworm]

I am all for immigration
so are we, just legally

I don't see how someone can live in a country for 13 years and still be an illegal immigrant
i know, its a shame that they would neglet to do so after living here for that long, but with the new legislation being debated over, why would they? Our lawmakers are making it more beneficial for them not to.

[Knifeboy]

i know, its a shame that they would neglet to do so after living here for that long, but with the new legislation being debated over, why would they? Our lawmakers are making it more beneficial for them not to.

you completely missed his point

[Dr Hooch]

like saying "I pretended to be her girlfriend for 15 years... We dated, slept together, met eachother's parents, moved in together and got engaged, but we were only pretending."

Some things should just be by default

[ringworm]

you completely missed his point
no i didnt, he thinks that after a certain amount of time, you should be considered a legal resident, like common law marriage, what I said to counter was, what moron wouldnt continue to go undocumented with so much legislation that makes it easier and beneficial to do so

[Iskandar]

http://www.feyaccompli.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/libertarian-limit.gif

[DBoons Ghost]

http://www.feyaccompli.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/libertarian-limit.gif

Haha..

It's easy to be anything on the internet.

I always wonder how many of the people who say they are this or that on internets are really practitioners of said belief system.

I find myself gravitating towards the politics that define me rather then define myself by a pre defined set of political beliefs.

I think that makes sense.

[McP3000]

Haha..

It's easy to be anything on the internet.

I always wonder how many of the people who say they are this or that on internets are really practitioners of said belief system.

I find myself gravitating towards the politics that define me rather then define myself by a pre defined set of political beliefs.

I think that makes sense.

it does :)

[Iskandar]

Warning: The Internet is currently full of libertarians.

[ringworm]

I find myself gravitating towards the politics that define me rather then define myself by a pre defined set of political beliefs.

I think that makes sense.
it makes sense but seems unpracticed by most, people love to associate themselves with a lable and will adjust to fit rather than the opposite

i have no idea what particular lable that would fit me, although I am sure many would or will lable me to suit themselves :naughty:


Warning: The Internet is currently full of libertarians.
oooh, it still allowed me to post :p

[guitrguy]

Warning: The Internet is currently full of libertarians.

You got me Komrade.

[Mr. Ron]

And I!

[Iskandar]

Sigh. Poor libertarians.

[DBoons Ghost]

Sigh. Poor libertarians.

Haha..

Hey I bought 2001 A Space Odyssey today just for you bb.

I'm gonna watch it again tommorrow night when all are sleeping and I can turn the lights low and focus.

[Iskandar]

Haha..

Hey I bought 2001 A Space Odyssey today just for you bb.

I'm gonna watch it again tommorrow night when all are sleeping and I can turn the lights low and focus.Awwww. Ilu:)

[Hababi]

That's really sensible

You've paid for them to get this far it seems silly not to cash in on the brain potential

I don't see how someone can live in a country for 13 years and still be an illegal immigrant

Yup that's one of the reasons I like Huckabee.

[Mr. Ron]

Huckabee wants women to "Humbly submit to their husbands".

[Iskandar]

Huckabee wants women to "Humbly submit to their husbands".Hahahahahaha

Another reason for Zero to like him.

I can't want to move to Scandinavia.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6TARCu4ssCE&feature=related

I already know the Swedish national anthem.

[Hababi]

Huckabee wants women to "Humbly submit to their husbands".

Huckabee is the most whipped of all the candidates. His wife is domineering and will be a detriment should he get the nomination.

[Iskandar]

Shouldn't he exercise his right over her, then?

[Hababi]

Shouldn't he exercise his right over her, then?

Biblical marital harmony is all about mutual respect :cool:

[Mr. Ron]

yeah except he still said it

[Iskandar]

Biblical marital harmony is all about mutual respect :cool:Lol, Biblical morality.

[DBoons Ghost]

Lol @ biblical marital harmony

[Mr. Ron]

Alex, did you check to see if your fibers were mixed this morning?

[Hababi]

yeah except he still said it

he said this!!!!

oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Srs aren't there more important things to concentrate on than what Huckabee believes about marital relationships and evolution...

[Mr. Ron]

he said this!!!!

oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Srs aren't there more important things to concentrate on than what Huckabee believes about marital relationships and evolution...

I think its kind of important to know if a president that could be elected to be the head of our country still lives in the 1800's.

[Hababi]

I think its kind of important to know if a president that could be elected to be the head of our country still lives in the 1800's.

yeah erm he doesn't.

[Amit]

lol what does huckabee believe about evolution

[Mr. Ron]

yeah erm he doesn't.

he supports creationism being taught in public schools


he lives in the 1800's.

[Hababi]

lol what does huckabee believe about evolution

old school creationism

[Amit]

lmao yeah that's pretty oldschool

[Hababi]

he supports creationism being taught in public schools


He has no plans to push for creationism being taught in schools.

[Iskandar]

lol what does huckabee believe about evolutionhe doesn't.
.....


........

[Hababi]

he doesn't.
.....


........

tbh people should concentrate on candidates' positions that actually are going to have a real impact on things.

[Mr. Ron]

He has no plans to push for creationism being taught in schools.

um, he said it multiple times.

[Iskandar]

tbh people should concentrate on candidates' positions that actually are going to have a real impact on things.ok so his positions suck slightly less than those of say tom tancredo

now what

what does he support that's actually good

[Amit]

tbh people should concentrate on candidates' positions that actually are going to have a real impact on things.

people should also concentrate on how retarded a candidate is

nothing against the mentally retarded

but we shouldn't give them the highest position of power in the nation

[Hababi]

um, he said it multiple times.

Dude if you actually watched the debates instead of getting talking points from liberal blogs then you would see that he supports decentralizing education curriculum, not in the federal government mandating curriculum to suit his religious beliefs.

[Iskandar]

nevertheless i'm fully convinced he's going nowhere so >_>

[Iskandar]

Dude if you actually watched the debates instead of getting talking points from liberal blogs then you would see that he supports decentralizing education curriculum, not in the federal government mandating curriculum to suit his religious beliefs.nobody here reads liberal blogs stop sounding like every conservative media figure in america

also tell me what's good about huckabee because so far i dont see anything

[Hababi]

ok so his positions suck slightly less than those of say tom tancredo

now what

what does he support that's actually good

Erm he's nothing like Tancredo. What he supports that actually is good includes opposing school vouchers, supporting merit based scholarships for iillegal immigrants, increased educational funding, a real program to combat obesity, etc.


people should also concentrate on how retarded a candidate is

nothing against the mentally retarded

but we shouldn't give them the highest position of power in the nation

Huckabee graduated college with high honors in 2 1/2 years while working full time. He's very intelligent. Not believing in evolution doesn't make you dumb and it certainly doesn't disqualify you from holding office. Should we test their orthodoxy on quantum physics and biochemistry, too?

[Hababi]

nobody here reads liberal blogs


Ron has to be getting his (mis)information from somewhere.

[Iskandar]

Erm he's nothing like Tancredo. What he supports that actually is good includes opposing school vouchers, supporting merit based scholarships for iillegal immigrants, increased educational funding, a real program to combat obesity, etc.so that's his educational platform i am not particularly impressed but i suppose it's better than ron paul's

what else

......?

[Hababi]

so that's his educational platform i am not particularly impressed but i suppose it's better than ron paul's

what else

......?

Actually his ideas on education (and obesity) are better than any of the Democrats. Also they're braver and more honest.

[Mr. Ron]

Dude if you actually watched the debates instead of getting talking points from liberal blogs then you would see that he supports decentralizing education curriculum, not in the federal government mandating curriculum to suit his religious beliefs.

ahaha I don't even read blogs.

He has said many times he wants to introduce creationism into the classroom. That is dangerous.

[Mr. Ron]

Erm he's nothing like Tancredo. What he supports that actually is good includes opposing school vouchers, supporting merit based scholarships for iillegal immigrants, increased educational funding, a real program to combat obesity, etc.




Huckabee graduated college with high honors in 2 1/2 years while working full time. He's very intelligent. Not believing in evolution doesn't make you dumb and it certainly doesn't disqualify you from holding office. Should we test their orthodoxy on quantum physics and biochemistry, too?

sorry but graduating early from college doesn't mean you're intelligent. Not believing in evolution is being intellectually dishonest with yourself and the facts.



Ron has to be getting his (mis)information from somewhere.

Yeah, from his own ****ing mouth on the TV.


OH NOES TEH LIBRALZ MEDIUHZ

[Iskandar]

Actually his ideas on education (and obesity) are better than any of the Democrats. Also they're braver and more honest.Those are two issues. What about the rest of the issues?

What the hell does this guy even stand for?

[Hababi]

sorry but graduating early from college doesn't mean you're intelligent.

Ummm sorry but choosing not to accept every bit of scientific orthodoxy doesn't make you less intelligent. Do you think every candidate has the conventional scientific opinion on black holes? Or *gasp* might one of them betray it? Yes, confirming to scientific orthodoxy is the most important aspect of politics! Let's ignore everything else and concentrate on that.

Huckabee is very intelligent. Trying to say otherwise just makes you seem unintelligent.



Yeah, from his own ****ing mouth on the TV.


Have you actually watched a debate? See, I have, so I understand what he's actually saying.

[Hababi]

Those are two issues. What about the rest of the issues?

What the hell does this guy even stand for?

On what issue?

[Iskandar]

On what issue?On all the issues. What is his ideology? Where does he stand on social, personal and economic issues?

[Hababi]

On all the issues. What is his ideology? Where does he stand on social, personal and economic issues?

Name an issue.

[Iskandar]

* Huckabee opposes abortion, same-sex marriage, and civil unions. In an interview with GQ Magazine, Huckabee said, "There’s never been a civilization that has rewritten what marriage and family means and survived."[146]like canada

* Huckabee is against gun control and is a hunter.[147]meh
* Huckabee supports the death penalty.[148]uh-oh
* Huckabee supports the War in Iraq and the troop surge.[156]boo

* Huckabee has expressed concern that Guantanamo Bay detention camp is a distraction from the Global War on Terror.[157] Previously, he stated, "[Guantanamo is] more symbolic than it is a substantive issue because people perceive of mistreatment when in fact there are extraordinary means being taken to make sure these detainees are being given really every consideration". [158]whatever

* Huckabee endorsed the use of foreign workers from Canada and Mexico for agricultural labor,[159] opposed aspects of the McCain/Kennedy immigration bill[160] and believes the United States' number one priority should be to secure America's borders.[161] However, Huckabee supports a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.[162] He said of the border, "Police it, absolutely. Militarize it, no."[163] Huckabee supports increases in visas for skilled workers.[164]not bad

* Huckabee supports the FairTax as a replacement for the current tax system.[165]yuck

* Huckabee supports increasing the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) from $15 billion to $30 billion over five years. He also supports more funding to fight tuberculosis and malaria.[166]good if these programs are effective

* In a 1992 statement, Huckabee advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general population.going a bit far don't you think

* In 1992, Huckabee said that "homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."[167] In 2007, his view that homosexuality is sinful and not normal has not changed.[168]
Steve, he's your man!

I've seen worse conservative candidates but I'm not sold. But then I'm left-wing, and left-wingers don't go far in America.

[Hababi]

Huckabee's statement from 92 has no more relevance today than Barrack Obama's cocaine use. It's not where he's at, not remotely so, and it's not where he was at as governor. In fact, Time magazine selected him as one of the best 5 governors in America.

Huckabee isn't real far out on gun control, and the only thing that really miffs me about him is his fair tax idea, which I don't think has been shown to be economically viable in analysis.

[Iskandar]

Huckabee's statement from 92 has no more relevance today than Barrack Obama's cocaine use. It's not where he's at, not remotely so, and it's not where he was at as governor. In fact, Time magazine selected him as one of the best 5 governors in America.

Huckabee isn't real far out on gun control, and the only thing that really miffs me about him is his fair tax idea, which I don't think has been shown to be economically viable in analysis.Gun control isn't a big issue for me anyway. I honestly don't care as long as they're not totally banned.

Yeah, fair tax is a horrible idea. I'm surprised he supports it. I can see a crazy capitalist like Ron Paul being behind it, but Mike Huckabee is a different kind of conservative.

I honestly find this troubling:

Huckabee believes that the land of Israel was literally promised to the modern-day Jews by God. He has written that, "the Jews have a God-given right to reclaim land given to their ancestors and taken away from them."[51]

Huckabee has visited Israel nine times. A newspaper reported, "When asked about a Palestinian state, Gov. Huckabee stated that he supports creating a Palestinian state, but believes that it should be formed outside of Israel. This is hardly what we need right now in regards to Israel and Palestine. Steve, you can't honestly say you support what he's saying here.

[Hababi]

Yeah, fair tax is a horrible idea. I'm surprised he supports it. I can see a crazy capitalist like Ron Paul being behind it, but Mike Huckabee is a different kind of conservative.


Keep in mind that the fair tax idea has been championed by liberals, including Ralph Nader, in the past.


This is hardly what we need right now in regards to Israel and Palestine. Steve, you can't honestly say you support what he's saying here.


Which part? What he believes, religiously, has little bearing, and the Palestinian state outside of Israel is what pretty much everyone supports (if I understand it correctly, it's just another way of restating the two-state solution).

[Iskandar]

Keep in mind that the fair tax idea has been championed by liberals, including Ralph Nader, in the past.Yeah. Doesn't make it any better of an idea.

I support progressive income tax. That's not what "fair tax" is.
Which part? What he believes, religiously, has little bearing, and the Palestinian state outside of Israel is what pretty much everyone supports (if I understand it correctly, it's just another way of restating the two-state solution).Nooooo. He's talking about Israel claiming all the land governed by the Palestinian Authority, and setting up a Palestinian state in a neighbouring country. So basically deporting all the Palestinians. It's insane.

[Hababi]

Look, it's Tess: http://break.com/index/waitress-falls-through-window.html

And this is why so many Iraqis die: http://break.com/index/worst-ambulance-ride-ever.html

[Hababi]

I support progressive income tax. That's not what "fair tax" is.
Nooooo. He's talking about Israel claiming all the land governed by the Palestinian Authority, and setting up a Palestinian state in a neighbouring country. So basically deporting all the Palestinians. It's insane.

:confused: I didn't derive that from that statement.

[Iskandar]

wtf are you watching steve

[Hababi]

wtf are you watching steve

the important video of the day.

[Iskandar]

:confused: I didn't derive that from that statement.Huckabee stated that he supports creating a Palestinian state, but believes that it should be formed outside of Israel. He named Egypt and Saudi Arabia as possible alternatives, noting that the Arabs have far more land than the Israelis and that it would only be fair for other Arab nations to give the Palestinians land for a state, rather than carving it out of the tiny Israeli state."

Okay that is just batshit insane. Every bit as bad as people who call for Israel to be wiped off the map. He's basically talking about forcing the Palestinians out of the territory they hold right now and into another country.

[Hababi]

Well dude even if that is his current belief (when's that quote from?), calling for the Palestinians to be sent to another country really isn't the same thing as saying NUKE NUKE NUKE ISRAEL ala Ahmedenijad.

[Smokey D]

Is the fair tax the sales tax that poor people are able to claim exemptions on? I don't see why that'd be crazy, except it'd make checkout queues far longer.

[Mr. Ron]

Ummm sorry but choosing not to accept every bit of scientific orthodoxy doesn't make you less intelligent. Do you think every candidate has the conventional scientific opinion on black holes? Or *gasp* might one of them betray it? Yes, confirming to scientific orthodoxy is the most important aspect of politics! Let's ignore everything else and concentrate on that.

Huckabee is very intelligent. Trying to say otherwise just makes you seem unintelligent.




Have you actually watched a debate? See, I have, so I understand what he's actually saying.
I didn't even SAY that. I simply said that graduating early doesn't make you a brain child.


Although, I do think he has deluded himself in his own belief that evolution isn't real etc etc.

[Iskandar]

Well dude even if that is his current belief (when's that quote from?), calling for the Palestinians to be sent to another country really isn't the same thing as saying NUKE NUKE NUKE ISRAEL ala Ahmedenijad.Not much better in my opinion.

Relocation of entire ethnic groups doesn't go over well.

[Hababi]

Is the fair tax the sales tax that poor people are able to claim exemptions on? I don't see why that'd be crazy, except it'd make checkout queues far longer.

Yes, it's a national 30% sales tax that would give the poor an exemption on. To my knowledge, no analysis of it has shown that it's viable. It has philosophical merits, but in a practical sense, I'm unconvinced.



Although, I do think he has deluded himself in his own belief that evolution isn't real etc etc.

Yeah, I think that's a fair contention to make. But that's different than saying he's dumb for it.

Not much better in my opinion.

It'd actually probably be more harmonious for both sides, in the long run. And I say that despite supporting a 2-state solution.


Relocation of entire ethnic groups doesn't go over well.

See: Jordanians exiling the Palestinians.

[Smokey D]

Hey guys, why don't we ship the Palestinians to Madagascar? I bet no-one's come up with that idea before!

Any plan to relocate the Palestinians anywhere fails because a) it ignores the important cultural and national connection most Palestinians have with Palestine (Jerusalem isn't only important to the Jews) b) it involves relocating over 3 million Palestinians and c) it involves relocating a substantial indigenous population in whatever country the Palestinians are removed to, unless they're put in some shithole that can't sustain dense human habitation, but that's a bad idea too.


Yes, it's a national 30% sales tax that would give the poor an exemption on. To my knowledge, no analysis of it has shown that it's viable. It has philosophical merits, but in a practical sense, I'm unconvinced.

It sounds like it'd need some sort of constantly updating computer network to which everyone was connected that you swiped as you went shopping. By which I mean, in order to reduce government control in taxation, you'd need to give the government a far more overweening presence in everything else, which doesn't seem very libertarian.

[quote]See: Jordanians exiling the Palestinians.[quote]

So you understand, then, why it wouldn't work.

[Iskandar]

See: Jordanians exiling the Palestinians.Do you want millions of refugees in a country the size of Maine?

[Hababi]

Hey guys, why don't we ship the Palestinians to Madagascar? I bet no-one's come up with that idea before!

You sly fox you.


Any plan to relocate the Palestinians anywhere fails because a) it ignores the important cultural and national connection most Palestinians have with Palestine (Jerusalem isn't only important to the Jews) b) it involves relocating over 3 million Palestinians and c) it involves relocating a substantial indigenous population in whatever country the Palestinians are removed to, unless they're put in some shithole that can't sustain dense human habitation, but that's a bad idea too.


I do agree with you, but I'm wondering how recent that Huckabee quote is from.


It sounds like it'd need some sort of constantly updating computer network to which everyone was connected that you swiped as you went shopping. By which I mean, in order to reduce government control in taxation, you'd need to give the government a far more overweening presence in everything else, which doesn't seem very libertarian.


Yes, it would substantially increase government access to everyday shopping habits.

Do you want millions of refugees in a country the size of Maine?

I'm more concerned about the Palestinians embracing civility and sanity.

[Smokey D]

Give them a stake in the status quo if you want the Palestinians to fight to preserve it. At the moment, they pretty much view anything as better than what they've got, and they're therefore going to fight to change it.

[Iskandar]

I'm more concerned about the Palestinians embracing civility and sanity.Ending the violence goes hand in hand with improving their material condition. And to do that, they need a state.

[Knifeboy]

hey hey hey hey hey.. .take all this serious talk out of the community thread!

[Hababi]

Give them a stake in the status quo if you want the Palestinians to fight to preserve it. At the moment, they pretty much view anything as better than what they've got, and they're therefore going to fight to change it.

The Palestinians responded to Israel giving back the Gaza Strip by overrunning it, using it as a rocket pad, and electing Hamas. They haven't shown sanity to be part of their zietgiest.

[Hababi]

Ending the violence goes hand in hand with improving their material condition. And to do that, they need a state.

The problem is that the Palestinian response to the carrots has been to blow up the carrots.

[Smokey D]

The Palestinians responded to Israel giving back the Gaza Strip by overrunning it, using it as a rocket pad, and electing Hamas. They haven't shown sanity to be part of their zietgiest.

Things take time. You can't expect ideologies to shift immediately. The conflict between Hamas and the Palestinian authority (and the shift in popular support away from Hamas in the West Bank) is an example of changing attitudes though.

[Dr Hooch]

The Palestinians responded to Israel giving back the Gaza Strip by overrunning it, using it as a rocket pad, and electing Hamas. They haven't shown sanity to be part of their zietgiest.

so you hate democracy?

nono

let me guess

we should be letting israel choose their candidates

[Mr. Ron]

Looks like New jersey is looking to outlaw capital punishment.

[Tyr]

And not a moment too soon.

[Mr. Ron]

Glad to see more states joining the 21st century.

[Tyr]

How many states still have capital punishment?

[Mr. Ron]

Around 34? I think.

[Tyr]

That many, huh? I thought more had abolished it.

[Mr. Ron]

http://www.economist.com/images/20070901/map.gif

[guitrguy]

I dunno how the US stays afloat in the modern world sometimes.

[Mr. Ron]

We have enough fatties to keep us buoyant.

[Tyr]

So, basically it's the states in the north and north west that have abolished it. The number of people on death row is quite frightening.

[guitrguy]

So, basically it's the states in the north and north west that have abolished it. The number of people on death row is quite frightening.

:/ Can I move in with you?

[Tyr]

Feel free to come here at any time. It isn't huge, but quite comfy anyways.

[Mr. Ron]

So, basically it's the states in the north and north west that have abolished it. The number of people on death row is quite frightening.

It starts to gets scary below the Mason Dixon line.

[Tyr]

It starts to gets scary below the Mason Dixon line.

Not that I know exactly where it goes, but I think I can guess.

[Mr. Ron]

Not that I know exactly where it goes, but I think I can guess.

below Pennsylvania.

Well, maybe thats not a fair thing to say, but things get queerer as you move souht/southwest.

[Tyr]

Ah, then I wasn't that far off.

And they do indeed seem to get queerer the farther from New England one gets.

[guitrguy]

I live in the capital of it all. Mississippi.

[Mr. Ron]

Ouch.

I mean, the country is beautiful down there and so are the people, but its just to conservative for my tastes.

[Tyr]

I have never been to the U.S., so I don't know how it looks, other than what I've seen on pictures and such. The closest I've been is Greenland, but it's still a bit left to the U.S.

[Knifeboy]

How's Greenland? I imagine it's beautiful

[guitrguy]

Ouch.

I mean, the country is beautiful down there and so are the people, but its just to conservative for my tastes.

It is, I'm not even southern ffs.

Its what I get for being born into a military family.

The funny thing is people comment on my accent all the time down here.

[Tyr]

How's Greenland? I imagine it's beautiful

It is. It's one of the most scenic and beautiful places I've been to. I'd love to go back and see more of it. The only drawback is that it's quite alot of mosquitos, similar to northern Sweden.

[McP3000]

It is, I'm not even southern ffs.

Its what I get for being born into a military family.

The funny thing is people comment on my accent all the time down here.
What kind of accent do you have?

[guitrguy]

Greater North American

[McP3000]

:confused:

what

[guitrguy]

The accent typically associated with Americans.

[McP3000]

Americans don't have an accent :p

[Dr Hooch]

please teach me to hear the difference between american and canadian accents

[guitrguy]

please teach me to hear the difference between american and canadian accents

Its depends on what are Canadian are from. Just like it depends on the what part of America an American is from. Typically they have the same accents.

[Knifeboy]

The canadian accent is the one where the top half of the head comes off in a tilting motion , kinda like pacman

[DBoons Ghost]

Depending on where in America you're from you could have an accent that sounds nothing like anywhere else. New Englanders sound nothing like Southern folk, and folks in the midwest sound the most normal. Some NYers have a NY accent just like people from California have a different accent.

It all depends.

I'm not just talking about local lingo versus slang. Accents you can hear the difference in.

[McP3000]

Suthna's arr thu bes'

[spitfirejunky]

please teach me to hear the difference between american and canadian accents

Aboot = about, byegel= bagel, eh = yo/right, etc.

[DBoons Ghost]

Suthna's arr thu bes'

Gitda ****outta heah ya spaz.

[guitrguy]

how boot dem canucks, eh?

[Dr Hooch]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/morgokurham/iChatImageCfp.jpg

I have decided

"...is like a bear with a chainsaw" should be the new thing

like

"zero getting into power is like meeting a bear with a chiansaw

you're ****ed."

[Iscariot]

I don't really know what the most recent discussion was about persay, but I saw something about capital punishment and all I can say is, some people need to be put down like animals because they act like nothing more than animals. Some people can't be rehabilitated and rather than spend millions of dollars every year to keep these people alive, we should just effectively determine who should be killed and who should be rehabilitated and then just hurry up and kill those that need to go.

Also, screw humane methods of execution. Do whatever is cheap. If it's the chair or a simple shot in the head I don't really care. These people didn't treat their victims humanely.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Also down with Thatcher.

[Hababi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/morgokurham/iChatImageCfp.jpg

I have decided

"...is like a bear with a chainsaw" should be the new thing

like

"zero getting into power is like meeting a bear with a chiansaw

you're ****ed."

The country would be so much better if I were president.

[McP3000]

Yeah.

"Hey there protester, DO YOU HAVE A PERMIT?"

"No...but..."

"IM DEPORTING YOUR MEXICAN ***"

"But im not even hispanic..."

"GET OUT OF HERE JAVIER"

[Hababi]

Yeah.

"Hey there protester, DO YOU HAVE A PERMIT?"

"No...but..."

"IM DEPORTING YOUR MEXICAN ***"

"But im not even hispanic..."

"GET OUT OF HERE JAVIER"

Dude I'm the most pro-Hispanic person on here :o

[McP3000]

Dude, i was just kidding.

I like more of your opinions than the rest of the forum anyway :p