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lfantwister
09-11-2007, 12:13 PM
I would like to be best friends with whoever wrote that
ringworm
09-11-2007, 12:29 PM
http://i13.tinypic.com/4u93dk5.jpg
"So Atheists, get off of our Country"
i lol'd
RIP Ian Curtis
09-11-2007, 12:40 PM
Man, you and I both know that that bit'ch is a hot blonde who's into BDSM. I'd tap that mad baptist shi't till next week.
ringworm
09-11-2007, 12:51 PM
or maybe she's a preachers daughter, those are even better, from my experience
RIP Ian Curtis
09-11-2007, 01:09 PM
Never had one myself, there just ain't enough preachers here in Oz.
*Sings Dusty Springfield*
lunchforthesky
09-11-2007, 02:59 PM
Some Americans scare me. It's as though you don't have schools or any kind of education system sometimes.
ringworm
09-11-2007, 03:15 PM
eh, we're just completely different in almost any aspect of culture
nothing matters to us, but us
but things are changing, some want it, some dont
totah
09-11-2007, 03:52 PM
Yeah. Lots of people are gonna die. They always do.
Dr Hooch
09-11-2007, 04:16 PM
http://i13.tinypic.com/4u93dk5.jpg
I can put that letter being written down to cultural differences, but how the fu'ck did it get printed?
totah
09-11-2007, 04:26 PM
The usual local paper policy on printing letters is printing the most vociferous.
Iskandar
09-11-2007, 04:28 PM
I can put that letter being written down to cultural differences, but how the fu'ck did it get printed?Maybe for the lulz.
Or maybe it was just in the South.
Dr Hooch
09-11-2007, 04:40 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130149038502&ssPageName=STRK:MEW
lunchforthesky
09-11-2007, 04:43 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130149038502&ssPageName=STRK:MEW
Lol, it saddens me that people will fall for that.
Dr Hooch
09-11-2007, 04:52 PM
seriously if it wasn't like £13 i'd have bought it already just so i could share it with the world
italic zero
09-11-2007, 05:12 PM
for moral purposes only
Mr. Ron
09-11-2007, 05:22 PM
http://i13.tinypic.com/4u93dk5.jpg
I WON'T TAKE THAT BACK 'NEITHER!!1!!
JUST GET OFF OF OUR COUNTRY
Iskandar
09-11-2007, 05:25 PM
I WON'T TAKE THAT BACK 'NEITHER!!1!!
JUST GET OFF OF OUR COUNTRYYou're either with us or you're against us.
Mr. Ron
09-11-2007, 05:36 PM
>_>
<_<
lunchforthesky
09-11-2007, 05:45 PM
Do people actually like Nascar or is it just some inside joke I haven't been let in on?
Iskandar
09-11-2007, 05:46 PM
Do people actually like Nascar or is it just some inside joke I haven't been let in on?Nobody likes Nascar. It's an inside joke.
lunchforthesky
09-11-2007, 05:49 PM
Cool, it is pretty funny.
Mr. Ron
09-11-2007, 06:14 PM
Do people actually like Nascar or is it just some inside joke I haven't been let in on?
Just know this....it's the largest spectator "sport" in the US as of now. Thats sad. The only arguable good part of the whole thing is the massive crashes.
PerpetualBurn
09-11-2007, 06:18 PM
It's like other motor racing.
But with the turns taken out of it.
Edit: Women's football is ****ing dire.
What do you mean with the turns taken out?
Smokey D
09-11-2007, 06:25 PM
or maybe she's a preachers daughter, those are even better, from my experience
'You're bad Bart Simpson... You're bad and I like it' -- Jessica Lovejoy.
God I love that episode.
PerpetualBurn
09-11-2007, 06:26 PM
What do you mean with the turns taken out?
I mean the tracks are circular.
They still make lefts, and the left is the best.
PerpetualBurn
09-11-2007, 06:48 PM
Granted it's not as horrible as the women's football I just watched. But what could be?
Mr. Ron
09-11-2007, 06:49 PM
I don't understand how people can enjoy golf, watching or playing it. Seriously. ZZzzzzz
Hababi
09-11-2007, 08:20 PM
http://i13.tinypic.com/4u93dk5.jpg
Hahaha second paragraph is hilarious.
But it's really pretty much the same as Sam Harris, only coming from the other side :\
gregulus
09-11-2007, 11:06 PM
what's up guys. it's been a while.
Iskandar
09-12-2007, 12:12 AM
Hahaha second paragraph is hilarious.
But it's really pretty much the same as Sam Harris, only coming from the other side :\Nah, he's actually literate.
totah
09-12-2007, 01:38 AM
Dropper do you have a beard?
Iskandar
09-12-2007, 01:40 AM
Dropper do you have a beard?I did for a while but I got rid of it. Why do you ask?
totah
09-12-2007, 01:46 AM
I used to imagine you with a big Kropotkin-like beard. Now all I can see is Han and I thought it would be cool if he had a commie beard.
Iskandar
09-12-2007, 01:59 AM
I used to imagine you with a big Kropotkin-like beard. Now all I can see is Han and I thought it would be cool if he had a commie beard.Haha, that'd be a sight.
Dr Hooch
09-12-2007, 03:07 AM
What do you mean with the turns taken out?
They still make lefts, and the left is the best.
Does it count as a turn if they bank the track and then bias the sterring wheel so that the cars steer themselves?
I realise the guys must have to be pretty physically fit and there probably is more to it than it seems, but do you not think any of the european touring car drivings could easily do what the nascar drivers do, wheretrying to send the nascar drivers round brands hatch (in the appropriate vehicle) would probably end with somebody getting hurt?
Iskandar
09-12-2007, 03:42 AM
Man, I hate sporting events
Smokey D
09-12-2007, 04:01 AM
That's because you're a dirty red.
The athletes have more in common with one another than their bosses. Athletes of all clubs, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains.
lunchforthesky
09-12-2007, 04:21 AM
Granted it's not as horrible as the women's football I just watched. But what could be?
The premise of Nascar is infinitely more stupid than womens football however at least the hicks in Nascar can drive as opposed to the women who can barely even shoot properly.
The_Passenger
09-12-2007, 05:06 AM
Regarding women's football I'm more worried about the standard of goalkeeping than shooting after watching the horror show that was the Germany - Argentina game
PerpetualBurn
09-12-2007, 06:38 AM
What really grates on me with women's football though is that the players aren't subjected to the same level of criticism as the men.
The England women's team drew 2-2, both goals coming from free kicks that went through the wall. And all they talk about is how good a shot it was. Never mind the fact that if they'd done their job and kept the wall tight it would never have been a goal.
It's irritating that they're slower and weaker than men's footballers, but the complete tactical ineptitude and lack of discipline from the players is apalling.
I think I'd be guaranteed top scorer of the tournament if they let me play.
Hababi
09-12-2007, 08:19 AM
Nah, he's actually literate.
Yeah but I think that she's actually a parody.
Mr. Ron
09-12-2007, 08:38 AM
heyyyy any recommendations for a topic on the environment that i could do for a report? I just need some interesting ideas for a topic, I've been thinking for a few days and i can't come up with something entirely bland and boring.
ringworm
09-12-2007, 11:58 AM
but do you not think any of the european touring car drivings could easily do what the nascar drivers do, wheretrying to send the nascar drivers round brands hatch (in the appropriate vehicle) would probably end with somebody getting hurt?
nah, actually many Nascar drivers DO race in other forms, off-road, road racing, 24 hrs etc.
a few euro's have tried nascar and quickly left, even though it looks easy, they had a hard time with the bumping and side-by-side racing and other associated things
i honestly hate it, it was fun to watch many moons ago when so much tech wasnt involved, and now its mostly caters to spectators that only recently got swept up by the marketing
it isnt really racing anymore
motorcycle racing is where its at :)
Reaganista
09-12-2007, 01:15 PM
heyyyy any recommendations for a topic on the environment that i could do for a report? I just need some interesting ideas for a topic, I've been thinking for a few days and i can't come up with something entirely bland and boring.
i always pick agricultural subsidies whenever that comes up
Iskandar
09-12-2007, 01:15 PM
Yeah but I think that she's actually a parody.I didn't think so. Out of 300 million Americans, I wouldn't have doubted people like that exist.
]That's because you're a dirty red.
The athletes have more in common with one another than their bosses. Athletes of all clubs, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains.
It's true, sports are a racket.
But I've hated them since before I became a pinko.
ringworm
09-12-2007, 02:28 PM
heyyyy any recommendations for a topic on the environment that i could do for a report?
travertine forests?
pbs had a short story on it recently, fairly interesting if you're a nature enthusiast
cascading water, high calcium content, perfect air temp, organic matter, whoalla
Mr. Ron
09-12-2007, 03:54 PM
He said it has to be a specific thing. I might do global warming's effect on hurricane seasons.
Mr. Ron
09-12-2007, 03:56 PM
hmmmm....
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1224290220070912?src=091207_1231_TOPSTORY_sma ll_israeli_force_enters_gaza
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gM4eQSY4r2aqoKqeK3M8io5yc9zw
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/11/israel.syria/
Reaganista
09-12-2007, 04:17 PM
He said it has to be a specific thing. I might do global warming's effect on hurricane seasons.
i tried to think of a shittier topic than this but i couldnt come up with one
totah
09-12-2007, 06:03 PM
heyyyy any recommendations for a topic on the environment that i could do for a report? I just need some interesting ideas for a topic, I've been thinking for a few days and i can't come up with something entirely bland and boring.
Animal-related agriculture and cash crop farming are huge creators of global warming and soil degradation.
totah
09-12-2007, 06:08 PM
hmmmm....
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1224290220070912?src=091207_1231_TOPSTORY_sma ll_israeli_force_enters_gaza
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gM4eQSY4r2aqoKqeK3M8io5yc9zw
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/11/israel.syria/
Yeah, it's scary. Looks like another war's a-coming. Syria is on the USA's hitlist, as is Iran and as were Iraq and Lebanon. On the map, they form a land strip that creates a huge barrier between northern Asia and the oil fields. Interesting huh?
Also, the Israeli media is barely reporting the same facts as the international media. There's been no talk of the planes bombing anything here, merely that they went in and out. Also the idea that they could have been looking for North Korean nuclear materials is preposterous, something straight out of Team America. It cracked me up.
Mr. Ron
09-12-2007, 06:10 PM
i tried to think of a shittier topic than this but i couldnt come up with one
Basically.
Hababi
09-12-2007, 06:11 PM
I didn't think so. Out of 300 million Americans, I wouldn't have doubted people like that exist.
I'm sure a few do. But that's not one of them.
Iskandar
09-12-2007, 07:25 PM
I'm sure a few do. But that's not one of them.More than a few. I mean, it's an open secret that you feel that way about atheists.
totah
09-13-2007, 03:39 AM
I'm gonna walk into a synagogue, up to podium and say, "Hi, my name's Eran. Are there any religious people out there in the audience? Yeah? Come on, don't be shy, put your hands up, that's right. Ok. So this is intended only for the religious people in here today: You're WRONG."
CHECK OUT WHO WON IN THE ISRAELI SUPREME COURT GODDAMNIT! HELL YEAH! GIT 'ER DONE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfp6YuFNmmw
RIP Ian Curtis
09-13-2007, 01:50 PM
For fu'cks sake, can you Americans please vote someone in who has actually read at least the first 15 chapters of "The Prince"? I mean there's a fu'cking chapter there, like 35 pages in, which may as well be titled "This is how you fu'cked up invading Iraq, George Bush, if you did it this way, we would win".
I have no objection to winnable wars with Iran and Syria, but failure seems inevitable. Retards.
totah
09-13-2007, 04:01 PM
Umm, the point isn't to win a war, which is why this war wasn't won. The point is to maintain a war. The never-ending war is the strongest tool for a government, bot socially and economically.
Dave de Sylvia
09-13-2007, 04:29 PM
You spelled socialistically wrong.
Der Übermensch
09-13-2007, 05:01 PM
For fu'cks sake, can you Americans please vote someone in who has actually read at least the first 15 chapters of "The Prince"? I mean there's a fu'cking chapter there, like 35 pages in, which may as well be titled "This is how you fu'cked up invading Iraq, George Bush, if you did it this way, we would win".
I actuall was reading the Prince earlier today. That chapter is more like 5 pages at best though... the whole book is less than 100 and its over 20 chapters...
Umm, the point isn't to win a war, which is why this war wasn't won. The point is to maintain a war. The never-ending war is the strongest tool for a government, bot socially and economically.
Actually that is horrid. Especially in a democratic based government where the government has to answer to the people for lack of progress. The point of war is to win. A never-ending war is usually the inevitable downfall of a government, or at the least results in eventual disengagement.
totah
09-13-2007, 05:30 PM
But you assume that that war is out of the government's control. What I see in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine (which we also saw with the War on Drugs) is a carefully calculated and planned series of events that keep the war going with the occasional feeling of impending victory or impending peace treaties, neither of which has yet materialised.
And yes, the government has to answer to its voters, but the state apparatus does not, and it is the state apparatus which works alongside the profiting companies to keep the war going and to keep the war profitable. The people can argue all they want about whether to choose this guy or that guy because one said "we can win the war" and the other said "we've done our part we'll make a slow tactical withdrawal", while the people who control troop deployment and combat campaign strategies remain the same.
Smokey D
09-13-2007, 07:03 PM
That'd make sense if it was in anyone's interests to continue the war.
But right now we have a lame duck presidency which has lost all political control in the US and failed investment programmes from big companies.
It's much easier to make a profit in a stable environment.
And 'state apparatus' is such a cop out.
Hababi
09-13-2007, 07:19 PM
More than a few. I mean, it's an open secret that you feel that way about atheists.
That I feel what way?
Babble
09-14-2007, 07:05 AM
Video shows woman pleading with them to let her go to the hospital but they are convinced she is a criminal with drugs. They eventually arrest her and hold her overnight. her baby was born the next day and died a minute later.
what the don't say is that she was only 3 months pregnant and was apparently going into labor. the child would've died anyways :\
totah
09-14-2007, 12:11 PM
Stress is known to cause premature births.
Here's a speech from a guy, it's really inspiring, good stuff, longish:
"[ selected comments by the representative of the People's Committee of
Bil'in, Basel Mansour, to Israelis that participated in the demonstration
in the village after the decision by the Israeli High Court ]
Lovers of peace, friends of freedom and justice... our partners in the
struggle and in the creation of this partial victory -- I bless you in the
name of our Palestinian people, in the name of the residents of Bil'in,
that you came to know, and that came to know you, and that you stood by
their side ever since they began their opposition to the fence and the
settlement that squats on a large part of their land. You came to us
without considering the consequences -- the Zionist occupational
government attempts to implant the deceptive and distorted idea that the
Palestinans are your enemy and want to kill you. By way of this shared
journey, we proved the opposite and together we demonstrated the truth --
that Israelis can stand beside Palestinians and live with them in peace
and security, and even struggle with them against injustice and
occupation, on the fundamental basis that this occupation is an enemy of
humanity.
You succeeded in overcoming the army's roadblocks in order to arrive here
through a difficult mountanous path and were vulnerable to its shooting
attacks. In this way many of you were wounded by bullets that originated
from the unmerciful occupation army -- and not from Palestinians, that the
occupation attempts to distort and portray as a vicious animal that wants
to devour Israelis or throw them into the sea.
You were braver than your fearful government. You participated in the
struggle actively and in every way -- morally, physically, in the courts
and in the media. In the battlefield, you were on the frontlines, calling
with us for freedom, in your belief that only the manifestation of justice
will guarantee the creation of peace and security for our two peoples, and
not the building of walls and the expanding of weapons warehouses.
You have been real partners -- awake with us late at night, in confronting
the almost daily invasions of village homes by the army; together with us
you opposed many attempts to arrest, and you yourselves were injured and
arrested -- and you conveyed the true picture to the Israeli society. You
disputed the positions of the government and the army in every arena --
until the entire world was a witness to this special connection that was
created on the land of Bil'in, that united the conversation and the
meeting between cultures, creeds and religions. A connection like this
must be victorious, history must immortalize it.
Honourable audience, one of the biggest difficulties in this campaign was
how to organize and manage the connection with the Israelis in solidarity,
after our Palestinians people have always suffered injustice from the
Zionist occupation. This was done while Palestinians aspire to lives of
freedom, respect, and culture, and the mobilization of the most amount of
Israelis possible and international representatives to stand up to the
injustice. Once the Israelis in solidarity understood all of this, they
became dedicated to the work and became real warriors that earned the
trust of all. They contributed much by revealing the true face of the
occupation -- its tactics, its lies and its organized terror against
Palestinians -- in opposition to those that attempt to normalize and
whitewash the occupation.
These people were always willing to take upon itself whatever was asked of
it by the People's Committee, and more than this, often took the
initiative, offering ideas and suggestions. In this way, they
demonstrated that they were true fighters -- not only fans or friends, or
cogs in the machine of the occupation. They are heroes in the non-violent
campaign of the brave.
Honourable audience, recently a decision was taken by the body called the
Israeli High Court of Justice, to cancel sections of the fence in Bil'in
and to return a small amount of the stolen lands. This decision was taken
after a long campaign with the participation of peace workers from every
land, and the shooting injuries of almost a thousand demonstrators, in
addition to tens of arrests and many more assaults.
We went to this occupational court not out of faith in it, but to prove
that these courts are nothing but tools of the occupation. They are like
a soldier that shoots you in the head and kills you, and then wraps your
head in a white cloth, to be portrayed as a first aid worker. In its
decision, this court proved to be cowardly and causes injustice, and we
turn your attention to the fact that our campaign was against the
principle of the wall and not opposition to its route.
Therefore we will continue in our struggle, until the occupational
government destroys the wall and the settlements in all of Palestine, and
we will build together, with our bodies, real bridges of love and security
and peace, in order to conquer the wall and we will crush all of the plans
of the occupation until we reach the ocean that knows no border -- and on
its safe shores, we will sing the song of freedom and peace, together --
far from the injustices of the occupation and its roadblocks and barriers.
Blessings and respect to all of the Israelis, each and every one
individually, that believe in peace and our legitimate rights, and welcome
to Bil'in."
RIP Ian Curtis
09-14-2007, 12:53 PM
What a load of lovey-dovey, castles-in-the-sky bullsh'it.
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:10 PM
That I feel what way?That you want atheists to GET OUT.:)
totah
09-14-2007, 01:15 PM
What a load of lovey-dovey, castles-in-the-sky bullsh'it.
Well, the protests that caused the Israeli Supreme Court of Justice to reach a pro-Palestinian verdict were all ingrained in this "lovey-dovey, castles-in-the-sky bullsh'it". So **** you buddy!:)
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:16 PM
That you want atheists to GET OUT.:)
:lol:
I don't want atheists to get out...
I want them to convert :D ;)
RIP Ian Curtis
09-14-2007, 01:17 PM
Cool. As soon as talking about brotherhood makes Palestinians and Isrealis stop hating each other, I'll be impressed.
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:18 PM
:lol:
I don't want atheists to get out...
I want them to convert :D ;)They're not going to. Sorry.
totah
09-14-2007, 01:21 PM
Cool. As soon as talking about brotherhood makes Palestinians and Isrealis stop hating each other, I'll be impressed.
Umm, he was talking about a brotherhood that was already happening. It's not like this speech caused the demos (which are, by the way, mixed Israeli and Palestinian), it's the other way around. He made this speech at the celebration demo/party directly after the SCJ made the verdict.
I don't actually know who he is, but it's a great speech.
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:21 PM
They're not going to. Sorry.
Of course they will. Some anyway.
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:25 PM
Of course they will. Some anyway.That's arrogant of you.
It would appear the general trends in Western society show that atheists are not likely to become religious en masse any time soon.
RIP Ian Curtis
09-14-2007, 01:26 PM
Umm, he was talking about a brotherhood that was already happening. It's not like this speech caused the demos (which are, by the way, mixed Israeli and Palestinian), it's the other way around. He made this speech at the celebration demo/party directly after the SCJ made the verdict.
I don't actually know who he is, but it's a great speech.
Dunno if I'd call it a great speach. That kind puts it in the same league as "Gettysburg", "I Have A Dream" etc etc. It's cliched and so lame it made me cringe.
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:29 PM
That's arrogant of you.
It would appear the general trends in Western society show that atheists are not likely to become religious en masse any time soon.
The atheism seen on these boards will not hold up. It's a product of youth, and when youth gives way to experience and maturity, many of the atheists will convert. Atheism is another sector of youth rebellion. Many of those who tend to be atheists in adult life are either borderline autistic, left brained mathematicians/physicists, or people who never grew up.
Oh yeah that one's going to attract some fury :p
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:30 PM
The atheism seen on these boards will not hold up. It's a product of youth, and when youth gives way to experience and maturity, many of the atheists will convert. Atheism is another sector of youth rebellion. Many of those who tend to be atheists in adult life are either borderline autistic, left brained mathematicians/physicists, or people who never grew up.
Oh yeah that one's going to attract some fury :pThat's because it's completely stupid and you're denigrating a perfectly valid religious view simply because you disagree with it.
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:32 PM
That's because it's completely stupid and you're denigrating a perfectly valid religious view simply because you disagree with it.
What do you mean perfectly valid?
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:33 PM
What do you mean perfectly valid?Atheism is perfectly valid. Dur.
"God does not exist." I don't see why people aren't allowed to think that.
Reaganista
09-14-2007, 01:35 PM
The atheism seen on these boards will not hold up. It's a product of youth, and when youth gives way to experience and maturity, many of the atheists will convert. Atheism is another sector of youth rebellion. Many of those who tend to be atheists in adult life are either borderline autistic, left brained mathematicians/physicists, or people who never grew up.
Oh yeah that one's going to attract some fury :p
lol ur retarded
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:35 PM
Atheism is perfectly valid. Dur.
What do you mean with validity?
"God does not exist." I don't see why people aren't allowed to think that.
Who said they're not allowed to think it?
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:36 PM
What do you mean with validity?
Who said they're not allowed to think it?Look, are you arguing atheism isn't valid, or not?
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:36 PM
Look, are you arguing atheism isn't valid, or not?
I don't understand what you mean by 'valid'.
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:37 PM
I don't understand what you mean by 'valid'.Defensible. "God is blue cheese and also Al Gore" isn't defensible.
I can't wait for PB to come in here and call me a moron.
Reaganista
09-14-2007, 01:38 PM
neither is 'god is the master of the universe and he sent his son to die for us'
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:38 PM
Defensible. "God is blue cheese and also Al Gore" isn't defensible.
In that sense, sure. That doesn't make it any less wrong though.
I can't wait for PB to come in here and call me a moron.
:lol:
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:39 PM
In that sense, sure. That doesn't make it any less wrong though.
:lol:Prove that it's wrong. Go nuts.
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:40 PM
Prove that it's wrong. Go nuts.
C'mon that's way beyond the scope of a Community Thread.
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:41 PM
C'mon that's way beyond the scope of a Community Thread.Cop-out. Prove that atheism is wrong. Offer me one solid argument. In fact, e-mail it to me.
Reaganista
09-14-2007, 01:41 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=otMB3WVQNVg
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:44 PM
Cop-out. Prove that atheism is wrong. Offer me one solid argument. In fact, e-mail it to me.
Just read Frances Collins' book :p
Have you read Mere Christianity yet?
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:45 PM
Just read Frances Collins' book :p
Have you read Mere Christianity yet?No, I want to hear it from you, Steve. You said it, now defend it.:)
Reaganista
09-14-2007, 01:47 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vum3qgoh0x4
Hababi
09-14-2007, 01:47 PM
No, I want to hear it from you, Steve. You said it, now defend it.:)
I'd much rather concentrate on my wonderful Mugabe thread :p
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:49 PM
I'd much rather concentrate on my wonderful Mugabe thread :pCop-out.
totah
09-14-2007, 01:50 PM
Lol. "God exists". That one always make me laugh. Ever heard the one about the vicar, the rabbi and the imam?
Scientology is getting stronger and it's scaring me. I think that's definitely going to be a reality we'll be dealing with in thirty years' time.
Iskandar
09-14-2007, 01:50 PM
Lol. "God exists". That one always make me life. Ever heard the one about the vicar, the rabbi and the imam?I'd like to.
Reaganista
09-14-2007, 01:51 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cZd1Js0QaOI
Dr Hooch
09-15-2007, 05:32 AM
The atheism seen on these boards will not hold up. It's a product of youth, and when youth gives way to experience and maturity, many of the atheists will convert. Atheism is another sector of youth rebellion. Many of those who tend to be atheists in adult life are either borderline autistic, left brained mathematicians/physicists, or people who never grew up.
Oh yeah that one's going to attract some fury :p
Not fury; it doesn't even dignify a response. It's simply factually incorrect, and you know this very well.
Of course they will. Some anyway.
And just as many theists will become atheists.
lunchforthesky
09-15-2007, 09:43 AM
So wait we are childish because we DON'T believe that an omnipotent magic man in the sky sent his human son of virgin birth to die for our sins?
Interesting logic you have there Zero.
It amuses me that you find it childish when studies have universally found that religiousity descreases with an increase on IQ. As a general trend.
And that those in educated fields such as science are far less likely to be religious than undeucated housewives and general hicks.
Although I don't know why I'm even replying to such self evident stupidity.
Mr. Ron
09-16-2007, 02:01 PM
****ing pigs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f9mj37SeMY
ringworm
09-17-2007, 09:59 AM
that kid kinda asked for it for being a twat, and it was a complete set-up
the cop was nice at first (for a very small part of the time), until the kid acted like he did nothing wrong and the cop had no right to hassle him for parking in a parking lot he wasnt supposed to be in anyway :/
lame
DBoons Ghost
09-17-2007, 10:05 AM
I'm more of an athiest now in my adulthood then I was when I was a "rebellious kid".
lunchforthesky
09-17-2007, 10:08 AM
I'm more of an athiest now in my adulthood then I was when I was a "rebellious kid".
I've always been an atheist but I didn't give it much thought until the last two years or so, when I read up and only cofirmed what I'd always thought.
DBoons Ghost
09-17-2007, 10:11 AM
I've always been an atheist but I didn't give it much thought until the last two years or so, when I read up and only cofirmed what I'd always thought.
Exactly. Somethings I can chalk up to youthful idealism but some of those ideals just don't go away easy. I'm a hypocrit though in that I go to church every Sunday and fully intend to raise my child with Catholicism in her life. I even pray with her every night before bed, which is adorable because she prays for her toys before her family and stuff. Just goes to show.
Once she gets older and starts to ask real questions, I intend to provide her with real answers.
I will most likely always be an athiest, or at the very least, confused. People say death of a close family member, some trauma or mayhaps me being close to death will bring me closer to God, but all that is typical crap.
ringworm
09-17-2007, 10:32 AM
i was raised as a casual church attendee, but god or praying wasnt talked about
now that i am older, my dad wants my family (wife & kid) to get into church, i dont know how to break it to him that i dont beleive in it whatsoever
siva_chair
09-17-2007, 11:37 AM
I've rarely attended church in my life.
Dr Hooch
09-17-2007, 11:42 AM
I attended every fortnight or so right up until i was confirmed, after which i went once at christmas and then never again
RIP Ian Curtis
09-17-2007, 12:03 PM
Funny how all the old chaps on here are conservatives.
Sup Ringworm and DBoon?
lfantwister
09-17-2007, 12:06 PM
I went to church every sunday until i was like 12
lunchforthesky
09-17-2007, 12:10 PM
Haven't been since my Christening.
EDIT: actually i think i went once with school for something.
Iskandar
09-17-2007, 12:12 PM
Haven't gone in years. We never really cared that much about it anyway.
DBoons Ghost
09-17-2007, 12:13 PM
Funny how all the old chaps on here are conservatives.
Sup Ringworm and DBoon?
I am not conservative. Seriously. What would lead you to believe I am? Name some issues most conservatives are and I'll see if I qualify as one.
RIP Ian Curtis
09-17-2007, 12:29 PM
Okay. You're not a screaming socialist/communist/istist like everyone else on here. Sorry, should have been more clear.
ringworm
09-17-2007, 12:30 PM
Funny how all the old chaps on here are conservatives.
Sup Ringworm and DBoon?
lol
eh, i only appear to be conservative in here because its hard to type an entire, consise thought on a subject on a forum, so you have to stick to basic points
i am very moderate, maybe borderline liberal on some issues and conservative on others, i come across as a hard arsed conservative so much just to do battle against some of these wild liberals in here :) of which, i'd bet most of them arent really as liberal as they appear to me either
and also, with the way politics are currently being handled, middle of the fence people like me are placed on a side whether we want to be or not
oldschool maybe, but not so conservative, but i do tend to agree/side with them most of the time, i can live with being called conservative, just dont ever think i am religious :p
DBoons Ghost
09-17-2007, 12:30 PM
Okay. You're not a screaming socialist/communist/istist like everyone else on here. Sorry, should have been more clear.
Hahaha.. well, I admit I am anti-change, but that alone doesn't make me a conservative.
Sorry man I just hate labels. I feel I'm a mixture of everything, taking the best of the bunch and moving on from there. Though, the best features for me may not be the best for everyone.
lunchforthesky
09-17-2007, 12:50 PM
I think (correct me if i'm wrong) they are economic conservatives but the only social conservatives on this whole forum are Zero and Wotan (who doesn't post anymore anyway).
RIP Ian Curtis
09-17-2007, 12:51 PM
I personally feel inclined the same way as you two fine gentlemen. It seems like theres a third libertarian camp emerging in politics, quite different from previous political campings and classifications.
Although I'd consider myself a bit more radical than y'all, I figure that's just the folly of youth.
lunchforthesky
09-17-2007, 12:52 PM
Libertarianism is just conservative utopianism.
Dr Hooch
09-17-2007, 01:03 PM
Hahaha.. well, I admit I am anti-change, but that alone doesn't make me a conservative.
Sorry man I just hate labels. I feel I'm a mixture of everything, taking the best of the bunch and moving on from there. Though, the best features for me may not be the best for everyone.
Very much so; If you're not a liberal at 18 you've got no heart but if you're not a conservative at 40 you've got no money, they say.
You've got kids you have to try to clothe and feed where a good few people on here are still dependants, so what we see as important is bound to be different.
RIP Ian Curtis
09-17-2007, 01:19 PM
My daddy always told me "you become a conservative the minute you have something to conserve"
PerpetualBurn
09-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Your Daddy's full of crap.
DBoons Ghost
09-17-2007, 01:43 PM
Very much so; If you're not a liberal at 18 you've got no heart but if you're not a conservative at 40 you've got no money, they say.
Yeah I've heard this in many variations.
I've changed a lot over the years. Most of it I commonly chalk up to adapt and overcome, then submit and then just whore it completely over the top. I was once apprehensive, but not only did I drink the captialist Kool-Aid, I hand it out at every turn I can.
RIP Ian Curtis
09-17-2007, 02:28 PM
Capitalism leaves me the most freedom to do what I want. Bascially I keep working (which I've done since I was 14), and what I do in my spare time isn't a problem.
Plus I just finished ready an incredibly patronising book about art, with a socialist perspective (not like "Socialist Art", just a book about kitsch art by a socialist), and the holier-than-thou wankery has i think poisoned me for life against it.
ringworm
09-17-2007, 02:31 PM
Very much so; If you're not a liberal at 18 you've got no heart but if you're not a conservative at 40 you've got no money, they say.
thats pretty good
Reaganista
09-18-2007, 12:49 AM
based on what you've told us so far we're playing this song because it features east coast rap roots, classical influences, tremendous bass, consistent rhyme patterns and poetic rap delivery
PerpetualBurn
09-18-2007, 10:27 AM
I've just spent £40 on a new game and it keeps crashing.
Colin McRae Flight Simulator is wank.
lunchforthesky
09-18-2007, 10:34 AM
lol
Dr Hooch
09-18-2007, 10:39 AM
I've just spent £40 on a new game and it keeps crashing.
Colin McRae Flight Simulator is wank.
And so it starts....
I respect him sufficiently that it was ok to laugh.
The_Passenger
09-18-2007, 10:40 AM
Tbh it's taken longer than I expected to start hearing jokes about it.
PerpetualBurn
09-18-2007, 10:42 AM
To be honest, no amount of respect stops that joke from being hilarious.
Princess Di ones are the real classics though. Plus I hated that bitch.
The_Passenger
09-18-2007, 10:43 AM
I always remember Jeremy Clarkson.
"A lot of people dislike Camilla Parker Bowles because she's nearly 60, but a lot of people forget Diana was approaching 120 when she crashed"
Dr Hooch
09-18-2007, 11:45 AM
I always remember Jeremy Clarkson.
"A lot of people dislike Camilla Parker Bowles because she's nearly 60, but a lot of people forget Diana was approaching 120 when she crashed"
:lol:
PerpetualBurn
09-18-2007, 11:54 AM
Diana was on the radio just before she died.
And the dashboard.
And the steering wheel.
Hababi
09-19-2007, 08:53 PM
Do you have any idea of what you want to do with your life, at all? Just wondering.
Idea as in set plan? No. There are a number of possibilities, but I don't know which one I'm going to pursue yet.
Iskandar
09-19-2007, 08:54 PM
Idea as in set plan? No. There are a number of possibilities, but I don't know which one I'm going to pursue yet.Huh. Actually I prefer that to an overarching life plan, although you should at least know what you want to take in school.
.... Do you?
Der Übermensch
09-19-2007, 08:55 PM
What do Princess Di and Pink Floyd have in common?
Their last big hits was The Wall....
Hababi
09-19-2007, 08:58 PM
Huh. Actually I prefer that to an overarching life plan, although you should at least know what you want to take in school.
.... Do you?
Well yeah, I have my major and concentration.
Iskandar
09-19-2007, 09:02 PM
What do Princess Di and Pink Floyd have in common?
Their last big hits was The Wall....Eh, old.
Well yeah, I have my major and concentration.What are they, and how long did it take you to figure them out?:cool:
Hababi
09-19-2007, 09:06 PM
What are they, and how long did it take you to figure them out?:cool:
History (that's been the major since July), and the concentration is probably going to be western European history (I'd do African history, but Pitt's about a year away from having a developed African history curriculum).
Smokey D
09-19-2007, 09:07 PM
What sort of European history?
I think European history is important because it has the most sophisticated historiographical background, but it's going to be difficult to get anything new from it. I study it as well, but with the expectation of shifting into something else for honours or what have you.
Mr. Ron
09-19-2007, 09:10 PM
I plan on being a history major...I just don't know what specific field of history yet.
Iskandar
09-19-2007, 09:13 PM
History (that's been the major since July), and the concentration is probably going to be western European history (I'd do African history, but Pitt's about a year away from having a developed African history curriculum).What have you been taking before you decided on history?
Hababi
09-19-2007, 09:13 PM
What sort of European history?
I hope to concentrate on late medieval to enlightenment era. Primarily with the British Isles.
I think European history is important because it has the most sophisticated historiographical background, but it's going to be difficult to get anything new from it. I study it as well, but with the expectation of shifting into something else for honours or what have you.
You probably learn a little more about British history than most Americans. We tend to concentrate primary education on American history, which is why I have no interest in studying American history on the college level. British history was never covered very well in my primary schooling, so there's still a freshness to a good bit of it. Not quite as much as African history, granted...
Hababi
09-19-2007, 09:17 PM
I plan on being a history major...I just don't know what specific field of history yet.
As Smokey said, European history has the most developed histiography. African history is very interesting but significantly more limited. If you're masochistic, you could try Asian history, pick a sub-region, and learn one or two very difficult languages.
What have you been taking before you decided on history?
Well I spent 4 years taking a little bit of almost everything. But if you remember, I was for a time set on a linguistics major, before that an English writing (Fiction tract) major.
Smokey D
09-19-2007, 09:21 PM
Actually, I know practically nothing about British history (except for some stuff in Tudor-Stuart England from high school). My university education has focussed on German and French Revolution stuff, generally.
I'm doing a paper on Settler Societies this semester, which is pretty interesting. That focuses on Britain quite a bit, as well as how Canada, the US, NZ and Australia developed. The lecturer (NZ's recently crowned 'pre-eminent historian' no less) is a bit attached to his theoretical concepts, which makes critical analysis of them a bit like treading on egg shells.
At this rate, I think I'll be heading towards macrohistory of some kind. Microhistories, while important, don't interest me particularly and I want to get into the gears of world events.
Iskandar
09-19-2007, 09:23 PM
Well I spent 4 years taking a little bit of almost everything. But if you remember, I was for a time set on a linguistics major, before that an English writing (Fiction tract) major.Four years?!
Hababi
09-19-2007, 09:29 PM
Actually, I know practically nothing about British history (except for some stuff in Tudor-Stuart England from high school). My university education has focussed on German and French Revolution stuff, generally.
French Revolution has never interested me that much. Part of my epic novel takes place in that era though, so I need to read more about it.
At this rate, I think I'll be heading towards macrohistory of some kind. Microhistories, while important, don't interest me particularly and I want to get into the gears of world events.
It seems like a more left-brained approach. I like microhistory better because it works better for storytelling. Next semester, there's a class on the Renaissance that I'm probably going to take, described as:
ARE HISTORY AND BIOGRAPHY FRIENDS OR ENEMIES? DOES THE STUDY OF INDIVIDUALS LEAD US TOWARDS, OR AWAY FROM, AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE SOCIETY IN WHICH THEY LIVED? THIS COURSE USES THE LIVES OF SIX MEN AND WOMEN FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF EUROPE AS A WAY TO CONSIDER MAJOR HISTORICAL ISSUES. THE SIX ARE OUR GUIDES TO A WESTERN WORLD THAT WAS MORE COMPLEX, MORE SOPHISTICATED, AND MORE SOPHISTICATED, AND MORE DIVIDED THAN EVER BEFORE.
I'm quite anxious about it. Plus the instructor is one of the best regarded campus-wide.
Four years?!
Yeah, this is my fifth year of undergraduate study. I'll be done in a total of six years.
Mr. Ron
09-19-2007, 09:32 PM
As Smokey said, European history has the most developed histiography. African history is very interesting but significantly more limited. If you're masochistic, you could try Asian history, pick a sub-region, and learn one or two very difficult languages.
Well I spent 4 years taking a little bit of almost everything. But if you remember, I was for a time set on a linguistics major, before that an English writing (Fiction tract) major.
Yeah, thats what I was headed towards all along, anyways.
Smokey D
09-19-2007, 09:33 PM
French Revolution has never interested me that much. Part of my epic novel takes place in that era though, so I need to read more about it.
But... the French Revolution is when modern history began.
ARE HISTORY AND BIOGRAPHY FRIENDS OR ENEMIES? DOES THE STUDY OF INDIVIDUALS LEAD US TOWARDS, OR AWAY FROM, AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE SOCIETY IN WHICH THEY LIVED? THIS COURSE USES THE LIVES OF SIX MEN AND WOMEN FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF EUROPE AS A WAY TO CONSIDER MAJOR HISTORICAL ISSUES. THE SIX ARE OUR GUIDES TO A WESTERN WORLD THAT WAS MORE COMPLEX, MORE SOPHISTICATED, AND MORE SOPHISTICATED, AND MORE DIVIDED THAN EVER BEFORE.
Sounds interesting, but I'd be very cautious about how they were assessing that.
Hababi
09-19-2007, 09:35 PM
But... the French Revolution is when modern history began.
Eww yuck if that's where you mark the dawn of modern history then that's an indictment of modern history. Of course, that's why I'm really interested in the era directly preceding that one :p
Smokey D
09-19-2007, 09:38 PM
Pfft, you're like Edmund Burke.
The French Revolution, failure though it was, gave us nation-states, national consciousness, the death of the old regime, continental liberalism, and laid the ground for pretty much every ideological and historical development in Western Europe since 1789. If you don't understand the Revolution, you cannot hope to understand what happened afterwards.
Hababi
09-19-2007, 09:41 PM
Pfft, you're like Edmund Burke.
Hey don't knock Burke, he was a great mind.
The French Revolution, failure though it was,
Ok at least we can agree on this.
gave us nation-states, national consciousness, the death of the old regime, continental liberalism, and laid the ground for pretty much every ideological and historical development in Western Europe since 1789. If you don't understand the Revolution, you cannot hope to understand what happened afterwards.
You're giving a whole heck of a lot of credit to that. It's somewhat arguable that it provided some inspiration for the development of other modern nation states in mainland Europe, but the Revolution was inspired by the American Revolution. Heck, everything you credit to the French Revolution could be said of the American Revolution, except that it was a success.
Iskandar
09-19-2007, 09:44 PM
Yeah, this is my fifth year of undergraduate study. I'll be done in a total of six years.Holy crap.
No, really.
But... the French Revolution is when modern history began.For the West.
Smokey D
09-19-2007, 09:51 PM
You're giving a whole heck of a lot of credit to that. It's somewhat arguable that it provided some inspiration for the development of other modern nation states in mainland Europe, but the Revolution was inspired by the American Revolution. Heck, everything you credit to the French Revolution could be said of the American Revolution, except that it was a success.
The American Revolution was not a national revolution, though. It had a completely different set of impulses, and of course a different outcome.
This is the problem with you Americans. You try to attribute everything to your national destiny, but there does not seem to be much reference to the events in America by the French Revolutionaries. The American Revolution was an oddity, not an inspiration.
For the West.
The ascendancy of the west and the projection of western models on the rest of the world is what modern history is all about.
Iskandar
09-19-2007, 09:54 PM
The ascendancy of the west and the projection of western models on the rest of the world is what modern history is all about.I don't disagree.
Hababi
09-19-2007, 09:56 PM
The American Revolution was not a national revolution, though. It had a completely different set of impulses, and of course a different outcome.
This is the problem with you Americans. You try to attribute everything to your national destiny, but there does not seem to be much reference to the events in America by the French Revolutionaries. The American Revolution was an oddity, not an inspiration.
Thomas Paine and a few others shouldn't be neglected in terms of impact in French. I won't say that the French revolution is derivative of the American one, but there is some influence.
Smokey D
09-19-2007, 10:02 PM
The Revolutionaries didn't read Paine, really, and he was lucky to escape the Terror.
Mr. Ron
09-19-2007, 10:24 PM
I still have to read Common Sense...
Hababi
09-19-2007, 10:25 PM
It's fairly dreadful. I hate Paine.
Mr. Ron
09-19-2007, 10:27 PM
Meh, even if it is dreadful I can force myself through it, its the importance of the document that overrules personal enjoyment.
Reaganista
09-19-2007, 11:31 PM
I plan on being a history major...I just don't know what specific field of history yet.
wtf is with you people and specific field of history that doesnt even make sense to me
You're giving a whole heck of a lot of credit to that. It's somewhat arguable that it provided some inspiration for the development of other modern nation states in mainland Europe, but the Revolution was inspired by the American Revolution. Heck, everything you credit to the French Revolution could be said of the American Revolution, except that it was a success.
ya but the american revolution wasnt a revolution
Smokey D
09-19-2007, 11:39 PM
Yes it was.
It's stupid to say revolutions need to change everything about a country's political economy.
Reaganista
09-19-2007, 11:46 PM
no it isnt
it's the only way the word revolution has any meaning
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 12:07 AM
Not really.
Especially since most revolutions in history haven't done that.
Changing the political structure is enough of a change to be revolutionary.
Reaganista
09-20-2007, 12:18 AM
if you think most revolutions in history havent done that you're using it in a manner that makes it devoid of any meaning
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 12:32 AM
Self-identified.
pedro durruti
09-20-2007, 02:29 AM
I think the Revolution was basically a rebellion with revolutionary effects. The economic effects certainly weren't that revolutionary for most Americans, but were for the wealthy and the states. And although the Revolution produced democracy as we generally see today all over the world (minus modern differences like the blasted mass media!), but that too didn't benefit women, blacks (a huge portion of the south), or those without property, so basically a shitload of people to who revolutions are supposed to matter. The Revolution is a revolution as a short-term event only when you look at it politically and historically as the successful secession of a colony from a hegemonic (but somewhat weakened) empire. But not really as a social revolution, which is what revolution generally means. Revolutions belong to society because only society is capable of producing them, and if the ways of living of society are radically altered by a series of historical/political events then it is a revolution, but in the American Revolution, as a short-term event, there is no revolution.
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 02:37 AM
The War of Independence radically altered how American society worked, and how Europeans interacted with it.
A social revolution is not 'generally what a revolution means', otherwise we wouldn't bother prefacing it with 'social'.
Also, Britain wasn't hegemonic in 1776.
Reaganista
09-20-2007, 02:48 AM
Self-identified.
i cant think of anyone less qualified to determine where a revolution is actually taking place than a self-styled revolutionary or a military dictator masquerading as one tbh
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 02:58 AM
That's because you're attempting to apply reductionist political theory to history.
pedro durruti
09-20-2007, 03:35 AM
The War of Independence radically altered how American society worked, and how Europeans interacted with it.
Yeah because it was a war, but a war is a revolution in a different sense, one that for the states as a collective was only temporal. The people ("the masses") of the former American colonies were affected by the war only through aftershocks that wars like that provide, eg a drain on resources and the mess to clean up. But prior to and after the war most Americans still suffered the same political and economic oppressions. The Revolutionary War was a revolution imposed upon Americans by another society's government, so it can't really be called a revolution.
Maybe as a political entity it was radically altered but as a cultural entity it suffered no revolution other than war.
A social revolution is not 'generally what a revolution means', otherwise we wouldn't bother prefacing it with 'social'.
Well I've confused myself thoroughly going through these semantics. Let me just say that the American Revolution was only a revolution in international politics.
Also, Britain wasn't hegemonic in 1776.
Hegemony, colonizing empire, what have you.
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 03:59 AM
Yeah because it was a war, but a war is a revolution in a different sense, one that for the states as a collective was only temporal.
Yeah but I mean afterwards.
The people ("the masses") of the former American colonies were affected by the war only through aftershocks that wars like that provide, eg a drain on resources and the mess to clean up. But prior to and after the war most Americans still suffered the same political and economic oppressions. The Revolutionary War was a revolution imposed upon Americans by another society's government, so it can't really be called a revolution.
The Revolution made America a democracy, albeit limited, which was revolutionary. And American citizens didn't suffer the same oppressions. That's the point.
Maybe as a political entity it was radically altered but as a cultural entity it suffered no revolution other than war.
It only needs to be politically revolutionary to be a revolution.
Well I've confused myself thoroughly going through these semantics. Let me just say that the American Revolution was only a revolution in international politics.
And how in domestic politics worked.
RIP Ian Curtis
09-20-2007, 04:16 AM
I'm thinking of taking a history elective next year, but I'm mad nervous about how lame the topic will be. I hate all this new pc history, especially if it's about women or worse, the Australian natives. It's boring, boring boring. Mind you, Australian history in general is boring as batshi't.
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 04:19 AM
You're a cliche.
RIP Ian Curtis
09-20-2007, 04:37 AM
Yeah I know. Funny how anti-pc has become as mainstream as pc. But the fact remains that womens history on it's own is boring (i have no problem with woman stuff being mixed in with real history) and the Aboriginal history is utterly fu'cking pointless because they didn't do anything for 40,000 years.
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 05:08 AM
Anti-PC has always been more mainstream than not.
RIP Ian Curtis
09-20-2007, 05:10 AM
Depends on where you draw the line. All major publications have to speak newspeak, as do all government agencies and educational instituations (in Australia).
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 05:14 AM
Yeah, but it's people like you who make up the actual mainstream.
RIP Ian Curtis
09-20-2007, 05:17 AM
You think? I find the mainstream doesn't think about it, and just end up using words like "partner" without thinking, when they actually mean "husband", "wife", "de-facto", "boyfriend" or "girlfriend". Or they ignore affirmative action or quotas.
Whereas me and all my radical right buddies actively attack the stuff.
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 05:31 AM
The fact that political parties get success everytime someone says 'blame the Abos' or something similar proves what you attack as PC is actually very superficial.
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 06:12 AM
You're attacking the wrong thing, then.
RIP Ian Curtis
09-20-2007, 08:40 AM
PC is an active attempt to stifle not just the regular freedoms that governments and societies shi't on (speech, religion, the press etc), but freedom of thought. It's stifling and stupid, and it leads to other stifling, stupid things.
Dr Hooch
09-20-2007, 09:05 AM
What the hell?
PC to me is just not using words that dudes find offensive
That, and PC isn't law
Reaganista
09-20-2007, 12:39 PM
That's because you're attempting to apply reductionist political theory to history.
it's not reductionist it's perfectly accurate as long as you dont do crazy things like consider boonyaratkalin a revolutionary
lfantwister
09-20-2007, 12:53 PM
it's not reductionist it's perfectly accurate as long as you dont do crazy things like consider boonyaratkalin a revolutionary
so russia's great reforms in the 1860s that changed the prevailing political order.. a revoltuion?
Dave de Sylvia
09-20-2007, 01:39 PM
PC is an active attempt to stifle not just the regular freedoms that governments and societies shi't on (speech, religion, the press etc), but freedom of thought. It's stifling and stupid, and it leads to other stifling, stupid things.
In the rest of the world we call this "not being a dickhead"
Reaganista
09-20-2007, 05:34 PM
so russia's great reforms in the 1860s that changed the prevailing political order.. a revoltuion?
no a revolution is when an oppressed class overthrows the ruling class
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 06:58 PM
Which ignores a lot of revolutionary moments in history.
Reaganista
09-20-2007, 07:10 PM
then revolutionary moments are different from actual revolutions
Smokey D
09-20-2007, 07:11 PM
Then your definition is useless.
Reaganista
09-20-2007, 11:05 PM
no it isnt my definition is accurate
you're the one letting politicians self-identify
Hababi
09-21-2007, 07:41 AM
My wonderful student newspaper isn't paying me for an 1100 word article I did (would've netted $15), because I misspelled a name. Yeah, insert what follows that thought.
Dave de Sylvia
09-21-2007, 07:43 AM
That's like 1c per word.
Hababi
09-21-2007, 07:58 AM
That's like 1c per word.
.0025, actually. I emailed the editor with a rather cogent request for an exception to be made (if they don't, I'm going to make every other article I do 200-300 words longer).
Dr Hooch
09-21-2007, 09:12 AM
My wonderful student newspaper isn't paying me for an 1100 word article I did (would've netted $15), because I misspelled a name. Yeah, insert what follows that thought.
Is that the rule or is he just trying his luck?
lfantwister
09-21-2007, 09:17 AM
so last night i tried to use mx as a pickup line
i was like hey, do you like to talk about politics? of course she doesnt, she likes to talk about rugby. it was not a success
Dave de Sylvia
09-21-2007, 09:24 AM
Is that the rule or is he just trying his luck?
Given that it's the editor's job to edit, I'm guessing he's just trying his luck.
Mr. Ron
09-21-2007, 09:25 AM
My wonderful student newspaper isn't paying me for an 1100 word article I did (would've netted $15), because I misspelled a name. Yeah, insert what follows that thought.
Thats bullshit.
Reaganista
09-21-2007, 12:59 PM
ya but ur a total journalism noob if you misspell names that's like rule #1
also wat kind of student newspaper pays you
and who cares about $15
so many questions
PerpetualBurn
09-21-2007, 01:33 PM
My wonderful student newspaper isn't paying me for an 1100 word article I did (would've netted $15), because I misspelled a name. Yeah, insert what follows that thought.
"My boss isn't paying me because I didn't do my job."
I cannot believe it.
Hababi
09-21-2007, 05:32 PM
Is that the rule or is he just trying his luck?
It's a rule, but this was an extra large article that I literally was racing against the deadline to finish (I got a late interview the afternoon the article was due).
Also, the newspaper screwed up my last three articles. On one, they put in a paragraph break in the middle of a sentence, in another, they listed the wrong number of stars in the online publication of it, and in the third, an editor inserted the wrong actresses name for a part, making it seem like I had no clue what I was talking about.
Thats bullshit.
Yes.
"My boss isn't paying me because I didn't do my job."
I cannot believe it.
My job is to write articles. They published the article, I didn't get paid for it.
This is the response I got:
Although I appreciate your hard work and time you put into the
article, name misspellings are one of the things that is absolutely
unacceptable in journalism. The policy is in place to encourage
writers to fact-check their work and always ask their sources for the
appropriate spellings of their names. Name misspellings seriously
affects the credibility of the newspaper, and this is a rigid policy
on which I am not willing to make exceptions.
I'm sorry, but I sincerely hope that in the future you will be more
careful when naming your sources.
So, I was thinking about possible replies.
1) "very well. I request that the next time an article goes unpaid, it goes unpublished."
2) "Do editors go unpaid when they make mistakes?"
I'd go with the first one.
Dave de Sylvia
09-21-2007, 05:52 PM
My job is to write articles. They published the article, I didn't get paid for it.
This is the response I got:
So, I was thinking about possible replies.
1) "very well. I request that the next time an article goes unpaid, it goes unpublished."
2) "Do editors go unpaid when they make mistakes?"
He's wrong. But it's only $15, which is pretty shitty pay anyway; if the experience alone isn't worth it, you should probably quit or something.
Hababi
09-21-2007, 05:55 PM
He's wrong. But it's only $15, which is pretty shitty pay anyway; if the experience alone isn't worth it, you should probably quit or something.
There's a plum internship I'm going to try to get for the summer. If I quit now, I won't be able to get it. Otherwise, I probably would.
Dave de Sylvia
09-21-2007, 06:05 PM
Also the guy can barely speak English- how is he an editor?
"name misspellings are one of the things that is absolutely
unacceptable"
Are you from the south or something? ****.
Reaganista
09-21-2007, 06:56 PM
he's from pittsburgh which is really the midwest despite his and other pittsburgers protestations
PerpetualBurn
09-21-2007, 07:18 PM
Although I appreciate your hard work and time you put into the
article, name misspellings are one of the things that is absolutely
unacceptable in journalism. The policy is in place to encourage
writers to fact-check their work and always ask their sources for the
appropriate spellings of their names.
This makes it sound a lot like you knew about the policy and still made a tit of yourself.
Which makes you even more of an idiot for not doing your job properly.
Dave de Sylvia
09-21-2007, 07:20 PM
Jesus, give it a rest.
PerpetualBurn
09-21-2007, 07:21 PM
What?
ringworm
09-27-2007, 02:59 PM
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/38546/
????
Dr Hooch
09-27-2007, 03:21 PM
no, because if i click on a link to eb aum's world there's a risk those sh!ts that run it might get money from their sponsors for the page refresh or something
that, and it's completely infantile and there isn't a funny thing on the whole website
Knifeboy
09-27-2007, 03:25 PM
Sure there is funny stuff on ebaums...
they just stole it from somewhere else
.. yeah, i'm not clicking it either.. **** ebaums
ringworm
09-27-2007, 03:49 PM
lol, why the hate for ebaum? i dont get it
Mr. Ron
09-27-2007, 03:50 PM
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/38546/
????
DIE BITCH DIE
ringworm
09-27-2007, 03:52 PM
that link was intended for you :) I figured you'd get riled up
can you beleive the stupidity?????
Mr. Ron
09-27-2007, 04:30 PM
that link was intended for you :) I figured you'd get riled up
can you beleive the stupidity?????
Yes, yes I can.
Knifeboy
09-27-2007, 04:31 PM
http://www.ebws.com/ebaum.swf a fairly entertaining song + animation (+ a little text at the end) summing up why ebaums suck..
Dr Hooch
09-27-2007, 04:51 PM
someone some up the link for me
the one on the website to which we do not go
Knifeboy
09-27-2007, 04:54 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2xrmqk i broke google :( :)
Dr Hooch
09-27-2007, 05:07 PM
Oh man something awful can be pretty good
they were told to photoshop to make "boring games"
http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/08-31-07-games/InfinEight.jpg
http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/08-31-07-games/EigenKet.jpg
http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/08-31-07-games/Mindbleach1.jpg
http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/08-31-07-games/TheSniperZERO.jpg
http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/08-31-07-games/Aardmania1.jpg
Mr. Ron
09-27-2007, 05:08 PM
lmao
pooble
09-27-2007, 06:56 PM
man, i just bought khalua and made me a white russian. delicious
Reaganista
09-27-2007, 08:11 PM
i would totally play post war reconstruction
pooble
09-27-2007, 08:15 PM
i would totally play axis and allies. that game looks fun as hell and ive gotten pretty bored of risk.
Reaganista
09-27-2007, 08:15 PM
http://www.ebws.com/ebaum.swf a fairly entertaining song + animation (+ a little text at the end) summing up why ebaums suck..
ya but they neglect to explain that somethingawful also sucks
Dr Hooch
09-27-2007, 08:21 PM
ya but they neglect to explain that somethingawful also sucks
this much is true, but even as far as internet goes ebaum's world is a bit of a new low.
ringworm
09-28-2007, 08:49 AM
the one on the website to which we do not go
man, please tell me why, i am extremely intrigued and confused
Dr Hooch
09-28-2007, 09:07 AM
man, please tell me why, i am extremely intrigued and confused
in case eric "the thief" bauman gets advertising revenues off us
plus he puts nasty code on his website and **** like that
Dave de Sylvia
09-28-2007, 09:13 AM
who cares if he steals unfunny videos from loser bloggers
ringworm
09-28-2007, 09:33 AM
in case eric "the thief" bauman gets advertising revenues off us
oh, OK
plus he puts nasty code on his website and **** like that
like what? * is serious
Dr Hooch
09-28-2007, 10:14 AM
oh, OK
like what? * is serious
certaintly he put code on to steal somethingawful.com's bandwidth
who cares if he steals unfunny videos from loser bloggers
there's posting unfunny crap and then there's stealing unfunny crap
spitfirejunky
09-28-2007, 10:25 AM
I remember when YTMND wiped the floor with ebaum's face.
Dr Hooch
09-28-2007, 11:03 AM
I remember when YTMND wiped the floor with ebaum's face.
good times =)
Reaganista
09-28-2007, 11:14 AM
who cares if he steals bandwith from SA
Dr Hooch
09-28-2007, 11:39 AM
who cares if he steals bandwith from SA
it's the principle!
Reaganista
09-28-2007, 12:03 PM
membership fees
Mr. Ron
09-28-2007, 12:04 PM
Yeah membership fees are stupid.
Dr Hooch
09-28-2007, 01:16 PM
membership fees
yeah ok winner
Reaganista
09-28-2007, 07:30 PM
omg i just found a gigantic ****in centipede in my bathroom wtf
edit: apparently they eat other bugs **** i shoulda wiki'd that before i killed it huh
Knifeboy
09-28-2007, 07:33 PM
it's gods way of telling you that jews are evil
pedro durruti
10-01-2007, 02:13 AM
Yeah but Jews also own wikipedia. Foccacia and pizza are so good together
Knifeboy
10-01-2007, 07:40 AM
Man.. Denmark is way too small of a country to be involved in war.. Two soldiers died a couple of days ago in afghanistan... And not only was my sister friends with one of them... One of my good friends from my childhood knew both of them, and were very close to them
Hababi
10-01-2007, 07:23 PM
Dropper is there a reason you neg'd me for a two year old post?? :confused: :lol:
telemore
10-01-2007, 07:26 PM
he was going through the archives and a post pissed him off?
Der Übermensch
10-01-2007, 07:56 PM
Because it was funny?
Iskandar
10-02-2007, 12:29 AM
he was going through the archives and a post pissed him off?Winna.
I was searching for something and I came across some really atrocious posts of yours, that's all.
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