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descendents1
08-12-2007, 02:18 PM
I used to wear my contacts for a week straight in high school. I think my cornea started peeling off.

Hababi
08-12-2007, 02:18 PM
Mike Huckabee did quite well in the straw poll despite not spending any money :D :cool:

Huckabee 08 is alive and well. Now if only Biden would get some traction.

gregulus
08-12-2007, 02:30 PM
Wasn't Huckabee one of the morons who raised his hands when the republican candidates were all asked if they didn't believe evolution? What an idiot.

Hababi
08-12-2007, 02:34 PM
eh not really something that concerns me.

Amit
08-12-2007, 02:44 PM
yeah a candidate's intelligence really shouldn't be a deciding factor or anything

Hababi
08-12-2007, 02:50 PM
Ummmm Huckabee is a very smart guy :\

Huckabee was born in Hope, Arkansas, to Mae Elder and Dorsey W. Huckabee. He was elected Governor of Arkansas Boys State in 1972. He graduated magna cum laude from Ouachita Baptist University, completing his bachelors degree in 2½ years before attending Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas.

Amit
08-12-2007, 02:52 PM
remember that whole thing about you and holocaust deniers

it's kind of like that with me

and in regard to what you posted, great

he's smart

just intellectually dishonest

i don't know which is worse!

Hababi
08-12-2007, 02:59 PM
It's not immoral to not believe in evolution. It is immoral to deny the Holocaust.

Also his not believing in evolution has no real impact on the job that he would do as president.

gregulus
08-12-2007, 03:34 PM
It's not immoral to not believe in evolution. It is immoral to deny the Holocaust.

Also his not believing in evolution has no real impact on the job that he would do as president.

except the really big possibility that he will cut NIH funding even further than Bush already has. funding for research is getting increasingly more and more difficult to obtain. this isn't beneficial to anyone...well, except those who feel threatened by empirical data.

Hababi
08-12-2007, 03:38 PM
except the really big possibility that he will cut NIH funding even further than Bush already has.


Not likely. He showed no evidence of that as governor of Arkansas.

gregulus
08-12-2007, 03:47 PM
Not likely. He showed no evidence of that as governor of Arkansas.

because the governor of arkansas controls the national budget and the amount of funding NIH gets...

Hababi
08-12-2007, 03:48 PM
because the governor of arkansas controls the national budget and the amount of funding NIH gets...

He controls the state budget, so it's reasonably to believe that his philosophy hasn't changed much.

Amit
08-12-2007, 03:54 PM
It's not immoral to not believe in evolution. It is immoral to deny the Holocaust.

it's dishonest to not believe in evolution

Iskandar
08-12-2007, 03:57 PM
It's just plain stupid.

gregulus
08-12-2007, 03:58 PM
He controls the state budget, so it's reasonably to believe that his philosophy hasn't changed much.
The overwhelming majority of funding for biomedical research comes from the federal government. The little control his state government has on the amount of money being pumped into Arkansas research institutions really doesn't matter :/

Without federal grants, PI's wouldn't be able to pay their employees or afford anything needed for research. I'm not sure people really understand how expensive scientific materials are.

And yeah, not believing in evolution is probably the stupidest thing one could do.

Mr. Ron
08-12-2007, 05:07 PM
It's not immoral to not believe in evolution. It is immoral to deny the Holocaust.

Also his not believing in evolution has no real impact on the job that he would do as president.

Its been said already, but its intellectually dishonest to deny evolution, and frankly i don't want that sort of person in my white house.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-12-2007, 05:11 PM
One would assume that any candidate would want to not come out too strong either way. I mean that's what I'd do, it hasn't been a relevant political issue since all that Intelligent Design business blew over a while back, with a bit of luck and common sense you could carefully keep the public from ever knowing which way you swung on the issue and thus not lose any votes.

Dave de Sylvia
08-12-2007, 05:15 PM
Its been said already, but its intellectually dishonest to deny evolution, and frankly i don't want that sort of person in my white house.
I used to live in a white house but now I live in a grey one :(

Hababi
08-12-2007, 05:26 PM
it's dishonest to not believe in evolution

not really. You can be intelligent, incorrect about something, and honest.

It's just plain stupid.

Irony :o

The overwhelming majority of funding for biomedical research comes from the federal government. The little control his state government has on the amount of money being pumped into Arkansas research institutions really doesn't matter :/

Without federal grants, PI's wouldn't be able to pay their employees or afford anything needed for research. I'm not sure people really understand how expensive scientific materials are.


Well until you find something that in any way substantiates your claims, all you have is unbacked rumor mongering :\



And yeah, not believing in evolution is probably the stupidest thing one could do.

not really

Dr Hooch
08-12-2007, 05:54 PM
Ummmm Huckabee is a very smart guy :\

Huckabee was born in Hope, Arkansas, to Mae Elder and Dorsey W. Huckabee. He was elected Governor of Arkansas Boys State in 1972. He graduated magna cum laude from Ouachita Baptist University, completing his bachelors degree in 2½ years before attending Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas.

Ok maybe he should try attending some kind of education not paid for by the church

i mean for fu'cks sake what would possess someone to go to the "baptist theological seminary" to learn anything except how to get very rich by taking advantage of stupid people and then not pay taxes for it

Hababi
08-12-2007, 06:15 PM
well erm he wanted to be a preacher, so going to a religious school was a pretty good idea ;)

oh, and on another note:

I wonder what will happen first: the republican candidate will cave to anti-Hispanic people, or the democrat candidate will cave to anti-Jewish people. My guess is the latter since all but Joe Biden went to that Dailykos convention, run by the website that is a hotspot and haven for the biggest bunch of Jew-haters short of stormfront.

Dr Hooch
08-12-2007, 06:43 PM
well erm he wanted to be a preacher, so going to a religious school was a pretty good idea ;)


my god

and this man wants to be a politician?

we just wouldn't stand for that in britain

scandal, drugs, lack of policies

you can get away with

but we'd never have that

I'm being post-ironic a little here but it is, frankly, true

I wonder what will happen first: the republican candidate will cave to anti-Hispanic people, or the democrat candidate will cave to anti-Jewish people. My guess is the latter since all but Joe Biden went to that Dailykos convention, run by the website that is a hotspot and haven for the biggest bunch of Jew-haters short of stormfront.

Come on now steve, everybody secretly hates jews a little

Hababi
08-12-2007, 06:46 PM
I'm being post-ironic a little here but it is, frankly, true


That's pretty sad :p


Come on now steve, everybody secretly hates jews a little

Well everyone on Dailykos and most on the left, anyway :D

RIP Ian Curtis
08-12-2007, 06:47 PM
That's pretty sad :p



Well everyone on Dailykos and most on the left, anyway :D

Why the "great defender of the Jews" thing? I mean your even sticking up for Woody Allen in the Movies page. Just wondering why you've taken this cause to heart.

Hababi
08-12-2007, 06:48 PM
Why the "great defender of the Jews" thing? I mean your even sticking up for Woody Allen in the Movies page. Just wondering why you've taken this cause to heart.

Well I defend Woody because he's a great director :p

But as for Israel, because there's a really strong, very hateful and downright malevolent movement brewing in the "progressive" left, and if it becomes the mainstream of the Democrat party, we're in trouble.

Dr Hooch
08-12-2007, 06:49 PM
Well everyone on Dailykos and most on the left, anyway :D

no everyone with 3/4 of a brain hates Israel that just happens to be full of jews

but seriously i'm not ashamed to say if someone said they were an orthodox jew i would instantly judge them negatively until convinced to the contrary

RIP Ian Curtis
08-12-2007, 06:50 PM
Well I defend Woody because he's a great director :p

But as for Israel, because there's a really strong, very hateful and downright malevolent movement brewing in the "progressive" left, and if it becomes the mainstream of the Democrat party, we're in trouble.

Fair enough.

I'm rather pro-Israel myself, I was just wondering what your reasons were, if you were part of some kind of conspiracy involving the world bank and the media and such...

Hababi
08-12-2007, 06:51 PM
no everyone with 3/4 of a brain hates Israel that just happens to be full of jews


Not really if you read anything on the site you would see that it's transparent antisemitism. Your reaction, shared by many on the left, is also damaging, because it's a way to excuse downright Nazi-like creeps. The sensible people amongst progressives need to boot those folks out of the movement instead of pandering and excusing.


if you were part of some kind of conspiracy involving the world bank and the media and such...


Haha. No it's the anti-Israel people that imagine "Jew media complex!" conspiracies :p

RIP Ian Curtis
08-12-2007, 06:55 PM
Not really if you read anything on the site you would see that it's transparent antisemitism. Your reaction, shared by many on the left, is also damaging, because it's a way to excuse downright Nazi-like creeps. The sensible people amongst progressives need to boot those folks out of the movement instead of pandering and excusing.



Haha. No it's the anti-Israel people that imagine "Jew media complex!" conspiracies :p

So those "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" aren't real? Next you'll be saying that Jews have souls and don't eat chrisitian babies to celebrate their evil, demonic feast of Passover.

Dr Hooch
08-12-2007, 06:56 PM
Not really if you read anything on the site you would see that it's transparent antisemitism. Your reaction, shared by many on the left, is also damaging, because it's a way to excuse downright Nazi-like creeps. The sensible people amongst progressives need to boot those folks out of the movement instead of pandering and excusing.

basically if instead of being the jewish holy land israel was some kind of british holy land we'd spend all our time ebing pretty embaressed that we'd ever been formed

it should never have been created and it was our mistake but the way israel acts is just horrific considering they should know very well they shouldn't technically even be there in the first place

if i was israel i'd be apologising for even existing while quietly crushing threats

not

invading my neighbours

Hababi
08-12-2007, 06:59 PM
basically if instead of being the jewish holy land israel was some kind of british holy land we'd spend all our time ebing pretty embaressed that we'd ever been formed


Correct me if I'm wrong but England is defined as an Anglican nation under the sovereign rule of her Majesty the Queen :\

Israel is a secular nation with a Jewish identity, the same way England is a secular nation with an Anglican identity.




it should never have been created


Oh right everyone else deserves a homeland except the Jews, whose homeland was stolen from them, and who faced unparalleled discrimination through history.


the way israel acts is just horrific


Hahaha by daring to exist and actually fighting the terrorist Neanderthals intent on destroying it :(




invading my neighbours


When you're attacked, invasion is necessary.

Dr Hooch
08-12-2007, 07:13 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but England is defined as an Anglican nation under the sovereign rule of her Majesty the Queen :\

yeah we've been innoculated against religion

Israel is a secular nation with a Jewish identity, the same way England is a secular nation with an Anglican identity.
Then why is it in the jewish holy land and not in, say, the artic?


Oh right everyone else deserves a homeland except the Jews, whose homeland was stolen from them, and who faced unparalleled discrimination through history.

wh-wh-what

how many people have controlled britain throughout history?

where is the christian homeland, then?

and we all know sayings about 2 wrongs and going left


Hahaha by daring to exist and actually fighting the terrorist Neanderthals intent on destroying it :(

i'd say existing was taking it far enough

plenty of neaderthals on both sides

When you're attacked, invasion is necessary.

when you have to invade that many countries you should probably take the hint

Hababi
08-12-2007, 07:18 PM
yeah we've been innoculated against religion

Ummm you're still the Anglican holy land under the sovereign rule of the Queen. Israel never had a monarchy or any other form of quasi or fully-religious authority as ruler, not even in name only :o


Then why is it in the jewish holy land and not in, say, the artic?


Because that's the historic area of it duh.


wh-wh-what

how many people have controlled britain throughout history?

where is the christian homeland, then?


Same area and wtf relevance does that have?

and we all know sayings about 2 wrongs and going left


No it's one right righting one wrong.


plenty of neaderthals on both sides


Not really.


when you have to invade that many countries you should probably take the hint

Yes give up, the Dr Hooch way." Go to the gas chambers":smash:

italic zero
08-12-2007, 07:25 PM
Oh right everyone else deserves a homeland except the Jews, whose homeland was stolen from them, and who faced unparalleled discrimination through historyso you support partitioning India for the Roma?

Hababi
08-12-2007, 07:28 PM
so you support partitioning India for the Roma?

I'm not too familiar with that situation but I support it for the Kurds and the southern Sudanese. Actually though Southern Sudan should join Uganda.

italic zero
08-12-2007, 07:47 PM
roma are just like the jews except without all the writing

Der Übermensch
08-12-2007, 07:47 PM
Ummm you're still the Anglican holy land under the sovereign rule of the Queen. Israel never had a monarchy or any other form of quasi or fully-religious authority as ruler, not even in name only :o

I was under the impression that Saul, David and Solomon were all... I dunno... Monarchs?

Hababi
08-12-2007, 07:48 PM
I was under the impression that Saul, David and Solomon were all... I dunno... Monarchs?

I'm talking about the modern state of Israel d00d.



roma are just like the jews except without all the writing


:confused: they don't write?

Reaganista
08-12-2007, 07:55 PM
well erm he wanted to be a preacher, so going to a religious school was a pretty good idea

oh, and on another note:

I wonder what will happen first: the republican candidate will cave to anti-Hispanic people, or the democrat candidate will cave to anti-Jewish people. My guess is the latter since all but Joe Biden went to that Dailykos convention, run by the website that is a hotspot and haven for the biggest bunch of Jew-haters short of stormfront.
i hope there was someone exactly like you wandering around calling everyone who criticized the nazi government a german-hater back in the day

Hababi
08-12-2007, 07:56 PM
i hope there was someone exactly like you wandering around calling everyone who criticized the nazi government a german-hater back in the day

That's where you would've come into play.

Iskandar
08-12-2007, 09:06 PM
:confused: they don't write?Historically, no, their language was not written.

Hababi
08-12-2007, 09:09 PM
oh well that's not good :\

Iskandar
08-12-2007, 09:13 PM
oh well that's not good :\Well, they didn't live in the greatest condition to write any literature, you see.

The Roma have easily had as difficult a time as the Jews. They've been exiled from their homeland (somewhere in Northern India) for thousands of years, they've been feared, mistrusted and hated, and they suffered brutally in the Holocaust.

Hababi
08-12-2007, 09:16 PM
Well, they didn't live in the greatest condition to write any literature, you see.


Eh That didn't hold the Jews back :o


The Roma have easily had as difficult a time as the Jews. They've been exiled from their homeland (somewhere in Northern India) for thousands of years, they've been feared, mistrusted and hated, and they suffered brutally in the Holocaust.

Oh cool then give them a homeland too.

Dave de Sylvia
08-12-2007, 09:16 PM
One of the most striking features of Holocaust literature is the regularity with which it focuses solely on the Jewish aspect.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-12-2007, 09:20 PM
Roma = Nice way to say gypsies yes/no?

italic zero
08-12-2007, 09:22 PM
people called them gypsies because they thought they were from egypt so that's pretty dumb.

plus there are lots of ethnic groups people call gypsies other than the Roma, i.e. pretty much every nomadic group in europe and western asia.

Iskandar
08-12-2007, 09:23 PM
Oh cool then give them a homeland too.Where? The Indian government isn't about to give them one.
Roma = Nice way to say gypsies yes/no?It's a more correct name for them. "Gypsies" stems from an incorrect belief that they originated from Egypt. They're actually from the Indian subcontinent.

PerpetualBurn
08-12-2007, 09:26 PM
I think they like to be called gypos or pikeys.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-12-2007, 09:26 PM
I'm not interested in the politically correct answer, are the people historically called gypsies Roma or not? The reason I ask is that every bloody time I ask this question someone responds the way you just did.

EDIT:

Redundant now, thanks Dropper

PerpetualBurn
08-12-2007, 09:26 PM
They both just answered that.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-12-2007, 09:27 PM
Where? The Indian government isn't about to give them one.
It's a more correct name for them. "Gypsies" stems from an incorrect belief that they originated from Egypt. They're actually from the Indian subcontinent.

Thanks, that made things a lot clearer. So the "gypsies" that the Nazis were exterminating are/were Roma?

Iskandar
08-12-2007, 09:29 PM
Thanks, that made things a lot clearer. So the "gypsies" that the Nazis were exterminating are/were Roma?Yep.

Hababi
08-12-2007, 09:30 PM
Where? The Indian government isn't about to give them one.


Right well just get them to change their mind. India's huge, they can severe a chip.
One of the most striking features of Holocaust literature is the regularity with which it focuses solely on the Jewish aspect.

Who'd think it?

RIP Ian Curtis
08-12-2007, 09:31 PM
Yep.

Cheers, that always confused me.

When I did history at school it was right when they were changing all the names to the new PC ones. So one year it was "gypsies" and the next year the textbook said "roma" and I had no damn idea what in the name of refridgeration was going on.

Are there any good books/websites on the Roma in the holocaust?

italic zero
08-12-2007, 09:42 PM
Right well just get them to change their mind. India's huge, they can severe a chip.
it also has ten times the population density of the U.S.

Iskandar
08-12-2007, 09:47 PM
Right well just get them to change their mind. India's huge, they can severe a chip.They're not going to. India already has to deal with the Sikh separatist movement and they aren't yielding to them.

Besides, I doubt that many Roma even want to return to India.
Are there any good books/websites on the Roma in the holocaust?You could probably find something, although it's a topic that's been largely ignored since Holocaust writing focuses almost exclusively on the Jews.
Who'd think it? You do realize that there were millions of other victims of the Holocaust, right?

Amit
08-12-2007, 09:51 PM
yeah

the roma don't want to return to india

and india don't want them

let's give them israel

italic zero
08-12-2007, 09:52 PM
Cheers, that always confused me.

When I did history at school it was right when they were changing all the names to the new PC ones. So one year it was "gypsies" and the next year the textbook said "roma" and I had no damn idea what in the name of refridgeration was going on.

Are there any good books/websites on the Roma in the holocaust?http://www.geocities.com/~Patrin/pariah-ch9.htm

Reaganista
08-12-2007, 09:55 PM
oh well that's not good :\

thank for this value judgement of a foreign culture
you ***

Der Übermensch
08-12-2007, 09:56 PM
let's give them israel

Not a bad idea... Use parental style punishments on the Israelis and Palestinians... if they can't play nice and share, neither gets it!:chug:

Hababi
08-12-2007, 09:59 PM
yeah

the roma don't want to return to india

and india don't want them

let's give them israel

na give them the Congo.

Amit
08-12-2007, 10:07 PM
roma girls are so hot

Hababi
08-12-2007, 10:18 PM
roma girls are so hot

pixorlies

Iskandar
08-12-2007, 10:19 PM
na give them the Congo.Reminds me of the people who wanted to create a Jewish homeland in Madagascar or whatever. But it's also not like that because the Roma don't appear to desire their own state at all.

Reaganista
08-12-2007, 10:24 PM
everyone wants a state it's human nature

Hababi
08-12-2007, 10:27 PM
Reminds me of the people who wanted to create a Jewish homeland in Madagascar or whatever. But it's also not like that because the Roma don't appear to desire their own state at all.

oh well then why bring them up :\

I thought the prospective Jewish state would've been in Namibia...

Reaganista
08-12-2007, 10:33 PM
anyone who wants to can make any democracy of their choice into their state by going there and ****ing a lot

therefore nobody needs to be given a state since if they cared that much they'd go get one
and we can get rid of israel

Iskandar
08-12-2007, 10:40 PM
oh well then why bring them up :\

I thought the prospective Jewish state would've been in Namibia...They just kind of came up.

Nambia? Maybe. I heard Madagascar (where some Nazis wanted to send them) and also somewhere in South America (where some Zionists wanted to settle for a time).

RIP Ian Curtis
08-13-2007, 02:18 AM
South America would be amusing. Given you've got all the Nazis Peron exported there. Sounds like an amusing premise for a short fiction.

Dave de Sylvia
08-13-2007, 02:30 AM
all the nazis are dead

Reaganista
08-13-2007, 02:32 AM
nazis live forever

Dave de Sylvia
08-13-2007, 02:40 AM
ud no

Amit
08-13-2007, 02:43 AM
what does that EVEN MEAN

Dave de Sylvia
08-13-2007, 02:47 AM
tex 1 2 no 1

Dr Hooch
08-13-2007, 03:12 AM
yeah

the roma don't want to return to india

and india don't want them

let's give them israel

"ok jews your turn is up

sorry"

Roma = Nice way to say gypsies yes/no?

Not all travellers are Roma, but plenty are, and;

traveller is a more correct word for someone living what we might identify as the 'gypsy lifestyle'.

I think.

That's something I wouldn't do if I had relatives in med school at the time. "Hey, we're cutting up Grandpa Steve!"

Steve misses out the next line his grandnephew says which is

"Wait a minute, where's his rationality cortex?"

Amit
08-13-2007, 03:14 AM
we could like make it an MMO FPS/strategy game

roma vs jew: BATTLE FOR ISRAEL

and whoever wins at the end gets irsarel >:]

RIP Ian Curtis
08-13-2007, 03:17 AM
Do the Jews get support from America?

Amit
08-13-2007, 03:19 AM
well anyone can join up and play

Unreal
08-13-2007, 05:42 AM
They just kind of came up.

Nambia? Maybe. I heard Madagascar (where some Nazis wanted to send them) and also somewhere in South America (where some Zionists wanted to settle for a time).


It was Uganda, I'm sure.

Dr Hooch
08-13-2007, 05:55 AM
we could like make it an MMO FPS/strategy game

roma vs jew: BATTLE FOR ISRAEL

and whoever wins at the end gets irsarel >:]

:lol:

Can the Gypsies steal the money as fast as the jews can hoard it?

Only YOUR PREDJUDICES can decide!

Dr Hooch
08-13-2007, 06:10 AM
my god were RATM always simulataneously so embaressing and awesome

WHAT YOU SAY
WHAT YOU SAY
WHAT YOU SAY
WHAT

<whammy noises>

badtaste
08-13-2007, 06:37 AM
What's so embarrassing about them?

Dr Hooch
08-13-2007, 07:19 AM
What's so embarrassing about them?

The politics in themselves are bad enough without the, shall we say, overenthusiastic? delivery they are given...

FU'CK YOU
I WON'T DO
WHAT YAH TELL ME

HUUUUURGGHHH

etc.

PerpetualBurn
08-13-2007, 07:49 AM
No one can UGH like Zack De La Rocha can. Fact.

Dr Hooch
08-13-2007, 09:59 AM
Absolutely.

Hababi
08-13-2007, 10:01 AM
They just kind of came up.

Nambia? Maybe. I heard Madagascar (where some Nazis wanted to send them) and also somewhere in South America (where some Zionists wanted to settle for a time).

I tried googling it but all I got searching for "Africa proposed zionist state" was a bunch of racist blogs and websites :\

Madagascar wouldn't have been as reasonable, since there's more of a population. Namibia and the Congo are both large countries that are fairly sparsely populated. DROC has a litany of natural resources, too--considering what Israel managed to do with the land they have, they'd be the most prosperous nation on Earth had they gotten the Congo. I could try to look it up at the library today (Hillman library, one of the best amongst college libraries).

PerpetualBurn
08-13-2007, 10:07 AM
It makes me want to go back to when I didn't know how politically retarded Rage were.

Dr Hooch
08-13-2007, 10:12 AM
It makes me want to go back to when I didn't know how politically retarded Rage were.

aaaah, those were the days

che t-shirts and hatred of america even though we didn't live there...

ringworm
08-13-2007, 10:12 AM
i never listen to lyrics much anyway, they couldve been saying any number of things for all i cared, that goes for most groups





lol
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/32109/

PerpetualBurn
08-13-2007, 10:18 AM
I pay a lot more attention to lyrics and vocals now more than I ever ever used to. But first and foremost, I still love guitar.

Reaganista
08-13-2007, 11:41 AM
lyrics and vocals are almost all that matters to me that's why i listen to avril

Dr Hooch
08-13-2007, 11:50 AM
Hey! Hey! You! You!
I don't like your girlfriend!
No way No way!
I think you need a new one
Hey! Hey! You! You!
I could be your girlfriend

Hey! Hey! You! You!
I know that you like me
No way! No way!
No it's not a secret
Hey! Hey! You! You!
I want to be your girlfriend


like listening to chocolate

Reaganista
08-13-2007, 11:57 AM
this part

You’re so fine
I want you mine
You’re so delicious
I think about ya all the time
You’re so addictive
Don’t you know what I could do to make you feel alright?
Don’t pretend I think you know I’m damn precious
And Hell Yeah
I’m the mother****ing princess

makes the whole song as far as im concerned

Mr. Ron
08-13-2007, 11:58 AM
Tway, are you the mother****ing princess?

Reaganista
08-13-2007, 12:02 PM
no avril is the mother****ing princess

Amit
08-13-2007, 12:18 PM
:lol:

Can the Gypsies steal the money as fast as the jews can hoard it?

Only YOUR PREDJUDICES can decide!

haahahahah

PerpetualBurn
08-13-2007, 12:19 PM
My money's on the filthy pikeys.

Mr. Ron
08-13-2007, 12:24 PM
Yeah but Gypsies have good spells at Lv 5, jews just have weak melee moves.

Amit
08-13-2007, 12:27 PM
this is an mmofps/strategy

not jewblivion or neverwinter kristallnachts or world of jewcraft or some other crappy rpg :rolleyez:

Mr. Ron
08-13-2007, 12:29 PM
lawwwwwwwwl

Dr Hooch
08-13-2007, 05:09 PM
this is an mmofps/strategy

not jewblivion or neverwinter kristallnachts or world of jewcraft or some other crappy rpg :rolleyez:

:lol::lol::lol:

gregulus
08-13-2007, 05:10 PM
Well until you find something that in any way substantiates your claims, all you have is unbacked rumor mongering :\
why would he increase funding to an area that's obviously under the ever-watchful eye of lucifer himself? evolution and stem cell research. OH GOD HELP US!

apple pie
08-14-2007, 09:45 AM
If you are an atheist or simply not a christian, would you still consider this year 2007, or would you consider this year like 4.5 billion becasue you do not acknowledge the birth re-birth or death of Jesus?

Dr Hooch
08-14-2007, 10:33 AM
If you are an atheist or simply not a christian, would you still consider this year 2007, or would you consider this year like 4.5 billion becasue you do not acknowledge the birth re-birth or death of Jesus?

:lol:

:lol:

:lol:

We don't accept the rebirth of jesus

but we do accept that the caldendar was reset.

apple pie
08-14-2007, 10:43 AM
but why would you accept it why wouldnt you, couldnt you techniqually say that it is year 4 billion as say it is my reilgous veiws.

PerpetualBurn
08-14-2007, 10:44 AM
The calendar date isn't meant to be an indication of the age of the Earth.

Either in science or in Christianity.

Dr Hooch
08-14-2007, 11:09 AM
It's almost like convinience takes precendence over being annoying for the sake of being annoying

PerpetualBurn
08-14-2007, 11:13 AM
The current calendar is too ingrained to be worth changing.

And since it's only really used to map events during civilised times it would be pointless writing dates in the billions of years.

apple pie
08-14-2007, 11:17 AM
yah I guess alrite cool I was just wodering.

Dr Hooch
08-14-2007, 11:52 AM
Just like at christmas atheists give presents and go for meals with their families.

Iskandar
08-14-2007, 12:00 PM
I have to admit, I would think Christmas was pretty lame if it didn't include free stuff.

Mr. Ron
08-14-2007, 12:10 PM
Just like at christmas atheists give presents and go for meals with their families.

If it gets me a free meal and sweet presents I'll go along with good ol' j-man for one night.

PerpetualBurn
08-14-2007, 12:44 PM
To be honest, my parents never mentioned Jesus at Christmas.

It was all about Santa.

gregulus
08-14-2007, 12:47 PM
To be honest, my parents never mentioned Jesus at Christmas.

It was all about Santa.

what if it was code?

PerpetualBurn
08-14-2007, 12:49 PM
Code in the sense that my Dad ate the cookies I left out for Santa. Maybe.

Dr Hooch
08-14-2007, 01:09 PM
Our santa got mince pies and a brandy

I'm just still trying to work out how my parents decided which one of them had to eat half of rudolph's raw carrot

PerpetualBurn
08-14-2007, 01:11 PM
I'm guessing the carrot went to our dog.

The conspiracy thickens.

ringworm
08-14-2007, 01:17 PM
Just like at christmas atheists give presents and go for meals with their families.
you mean you dont stand outside malls and stores yelling at the fundies in December? :p

i love the misconceptions atheists have to address now & then

gregulus
08-14-2007, 01:30 PM
Code in the sense that my Dad ate the cookies I left out for Santa. Maybe.

hell yeah that code's ****ing awesome. free cookies.

Mr. Ron
08-14-2007, 02:12 PM
To be honest, my parents never mentioned Jesus at Christmas.

It was all about Santa.

Same.

Iskandar
08-14-2007, 02:16 PM
I don't plan to mention either.

italic zero
08-14-2007, 03:04 PM
mmhmmm

http://www.joriso.nl/data/images/cartoons/santa_marx.jpg

Iskandar
08-14-2007, 03:10 PM
mmhmmm

http://www.joriso.nl/data/images/cartoons/santa_marx.jpgI'll just tell my children that Karl Marx left them presents which he had expropriated from the capitalist class.

italic zero
08-14-2007, 03:11 PM
so karl marx is robin hood

Iskandar
08-14-2007, 03:13 PM
so karl marx is robin hoodhmm maybe

how about the oppressed elf class staged a revolt against santa

italic zero
08-14-2007, 03:17 PM
Spew

Iskandar
08-14-2007, 03:17 PM
Spewlol.

Mr. Ron
08-14-2007, 03:42 PM
mmhmmm

http://www.joriso.nl/data/images/cartoons/santa_marx.jpg

I hope his reindeer are unionized.

ringworm
08-14-2007, 05:55 PM
ive been thinking

i think Jaylink is really Amit goofing around, prob wrong, but the style of posting & the way they harrassed ea other for awhile, now he trolls Zero


whatcha think? possible?

Hababi
08-14-2007, 05:59 PM
jaylink doesn't troll me, I troll jaylink. I donnu maybe it's a setup :p

Dr Hooch
08-14-2007, 06:02 PM
ive been thinking

i think Jaylink is really Amit goofing around, prob wrong, but the style of posting & the way they harrassed ea other for awhile, now he trolls Zero


whatcha think? possible?

chaindrive claims she and jaylink were once enggaged.

That doesn't make any sense whether he's a 19 year old gent or iranian descent or a big fat faded rock star who has been a faded rock star for all of his career

badtaste
08-14-2007, 08:50 PM
Can I get some opinions regarding my research essay question please (subject is 'Australian Society', a sociology subject)?

"In your opinion, which of the following - class, gender, race, ethnicity, age, disability or sexuality - has the most profound impact on the lives of Australians today? How and why does this matter more than the others?"

I can only choose one of the social groups.

PerpetualBurn
08-14-2007, 09:09 PM
Everything I know about Australia I know from Neighbours and Steve Irwin.

Iskandar
08-14-2007, 09:24 PM
Can I get some opinions regarding my research essay question please (subject is 'Australian Society', a sociology subject)?

"In your opinion, which of the following - class, gender, race, ethnicity, age, disability or sexuality - has the most profound impact on the lives of Australians today? How and why does this matter more than the others?"

I can only choose one of the social groups.Choose class if you're feeling communistic. Otherwise, choose gender because it's really easy to argue.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-14-2007, 09:31 PM
Can I get some opinions regarding my research essay question please (subject is 'Australian Society', a sociology subject)?

"In your opinion, which of the following - class, gender, race, ethnicity, age, disability or sexuality - has the most profound impact on the lives of Australians today? How and why does this matter more than the others?"

I can only choose one of the social groups.


It's gotta be class.
Gender: We were one of the first to allow women voting, and Australian women really haven't shaped the current situation any more than men

Race: The only real "race" issue we have is Aborigines, and they are so marginalised as to have minor impact on the way this are today

Ethnicity: An interesting choice, you could talk about the anglo/irish tensions way back in the early days. Possibly valid

Age/Disability/Sexuality: Totally irrelevant, not even worth a second look.

But class is a real good one, especially seeing as we were one of the first (maybe first?) nations to have a labour party, minimum wage etc.

thedeadwalk!
08-14-2007, 10:43 PM
Everything I know about Australia I know from Neighbours and Steve Irwin.
I gotta go with Crocodile Dundee.

"Than ain't a knife."

gregulus
08-15-2007, 02:03 AM
I gotta go with Crocodile Dundee.

"Than ain't a knife."

um, i believe it's "knoife."

kthx

griftadan
08-15-2007, 03:47 AM
noice

Dr Hooch
08-15-2007, 05:10 AM
Guys i feel really silly because either this video is entirely faked or there were bltatantly some controlled explosions in at least WTC building 7 and probably in the towers as well

Either the entire footage is faked or building 7 was a controlled demolition

I don't like it but it just blatantly was =(

badtaste
08-15-2007, 05:25 AM
Everything I know about Australia I know from Neighbours and Steve Irwin.

Oddly enough, me too. :chug:

Choose class if you're feeling communistic. Otherwise, choose gender because it's really easy to argue.

Mmmkay, thanks for the response. I've integrated my reply into the one below.

It's gotta be class.
Gender: We were one of the first to allow women voting, and Australian women really haven't shaped the current situation any more than men

Race: The only real "race" issue we have is Aborigines, and they are so marginalised as to have minor impact on the way this are today

Ethnicity: An interesting choice, you could talk about the anglo/irish tensions way back in the early days. Possibly valid

Age/Disability/Sexuality: Totally irrelevant, not even worth a second look.

But class is a real good one, especially seeing as we were one of the first (maybe first?) nations to have a labour party, minimum wage etc.

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the response first. At first, I was really thinking ethnicity, but didn't have any strong arguments for it. But yeh, class makes sense.

noice

Very.

Smokey D
08-15-2007, 07:57 AM
The way Australia treated Aborigines is hugely important on the current situation. Go contentious and argue the genocide of Australia's native population is the reason for its current high level of wealth today.

I think class is a difficult and very technical issue that can get far too complicated.

ringworm
08-15-2007, 01:19 PM
jaylink doesn't troll me, I troll jaylink. I donnu maybe it's a setup :p
now steve, that isnt like you at all :p

but i have noticed you two going at it, i figured it was the other way around though

dei
08-15-2007, 02:14 PM
Australia blows.

Dr Hooch
08-15-2007, 04:36 PM
Australia blows.

Because it's full of convicts.

gregulus
08-15-2007, 05:24 PM
Because it's full of convicts.

don't drop the soap anywhere in australia.

Mr. Ron
08-16-2007, 12:14 AM
Hey steve you might like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk0AmXBpTtc


lel

Amit
08-16-2007, 12:15 AM
venomfangx

lmfao that kid is full of lol

Mr. Ron
08-16-2007, 12:22 AM
His pathetic dirt-stache is hypnotic.

italic zero
08-16-2007, 12:49 AM
Please Christians, post this message everywhere you can to save souls; Have you ever told a lie, or stolen something? Have you ever used God's name in vain? If you have, God sees you as a liar, a thief, and a blasphemer. You need forgiveness, or you will end up in Hell when you die. http://www.thewaythetruth.com

Mr. Ron
08-16-2007, 12:50 AM
Have you ever told a lie, or stolen something? Have you ever used God's name in vain? If you have, God sees you as a liar, a thief, and a blasphemer. You need forgiveness, or you will end up in Hell when you die. http://www.thewaythetruth.com

RIP Ian Curtis
08-16-2007, 02:38 AM
Please Christians, post this message everywhere you can to save souls; Have you ever told a lie, or stolen something? Have you ever used God's name in vain? If you have, God sees you as a liar, a thief, and a blasphemer. You need forgiveness, or you will end up in Hell when you die. http://www.thewaythetruth.com

Woot! Us filthy heathen types are off the hook

badtaste
08-16-2007, 06:14 AM
The way Australia treated Aborigines is hugely important on the current situation. Go contentious and argue the genocide of Australia's native population is the reason for its current high level of wealth today.

I think class is a difficult and very technical issue that can get far too complicated.

Eh, but racial relations regarding the indigenous isn't affecting the majority of Australians. It's probably affecting the indigenous only.

And yeh, class is a bit tricky, but I think I only have to adopt a certain perspective (say neo-weberian) and milk that cow.

Because it's full of convicts.

Convicts + ethnics = Australia.

I'm an ethnic, thankyaverymuch. :smash:

badtaste
08-16-2007, 06:53 AM
Choose class if you're feeling communistic. Otherwise, choose gender because it's really easy to argue.

It's gotta be class.
Gender: We were one of the first to allow women voting, and Australian women really haven't shaped the current situation any more than men

Race: The only real "race" issue we have is Aborigines, and they are so marginalised as to have minor impact on the way this are today

Ethnicity: An interesting choice, you could talk about the anglo/irish tensions way back in the early days. Possibly valid

Age/Disability/Sexuality: Totally irrelevant, not even worth a second look.

But class is a real good one, especially seeing as we were one of the first (maybe first?) nations to have a labour party, minimum wage etc.


@ you two: I can't remember if I repped you guys for your input or not. Let me know.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-16-2007, 12:47 PM
Eh, but racial relations regarding the indigenous isn't affecting the majority of Australians. It's probably affecting the indigenous only.

And yeh, class is a bit tricky, but I think I only have to adopt a certain perspective (say neo-weberian) and milk that cow.



Convicts + ethnics = Australia.

I'm an ethnic, thankyaverymuch. :smash:

The good thing about the class angle is you can take a positive spin on it. All about how (at least in the past) Australia was the kindest country to the working man (if you don't count the false promises of Joe Stalin et al). Rather than the doom and gloom stuff you'd get from the other ones. Plus you can put a current events kicker at the end if you wanna talk about workchoices hightening class tension.

badtaste
08-17-2007, 02:28 AM
The good thing about the class angle is you can take a positive spin on it. All about how (at least in the past) Australia was the kindest country to the working man (if you don't count the false promises of Joe Stalin et al). Rather than the doom and gloom stuff you'd get from the other ones. Plus you can put a current events kicker at the end if you wanna talk about workchoices hightening class tension.

Eh, as you said, all the positive stuff was in the past, the whole 'working class' ethic/culture is dying away. The ALP aren't that different from the Liberals these days. The political elite are all just concerned with making Australia a stronger force in the international economy.

And yeh, thanks for the workchoices idea, hadn't thought of that. I'll include that with Howard's dodgy economic policies.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-17-2007, 03:15 AM
I vote liberal myself, but that's really just because there isn't anyone else worth voting for. Also because Wilson "Ironbar" Tuckey is a lib, and he's my only political hero other than Winston Churchill and the MP from W.A with no legs. You know the 'Nam vet guy?

badtaste
08-17-2007, 03:29 AM
Afraid not.

I actually don't know who to vote for later on this year. After getting my first real insight into Marxism, society just makes me sad.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-17-2007, 03:40 AM
Balls, I'll have to find his name, he's a legend hey.

Society makes everyone intelligent sad. Whether you're a lefty and you see the gears of society grounding down the little man or like me you're on the right and you see a bunch of morons running around fu'cking it all up and society being one giant clusterfu'ck, it makes you sad.

I'd be an anarchist if I could institute a serious eugenic program and only keep people who were intelligent enough to be free.

badtaste
08-17-2007, 03:45 AM
Balls, I'll have to find his name, he's a legend hey.

Society makes everyone intelligent sad. Whether you're a lefty and you see the gears of society grounding down the little man or like me you're on the right and you see a bunch of morons running around fu'cking it all up and society being one giant clusterfu'ck, it makes you sad.

I'd be an anarchist if I could institute a serious eugenic program and only keep people who were intelligent enough to be free.

Eh, eugenics is complicated. We'd still need the less intelligent people to do the hard yards though (that is if we were still adopting the capitalist system).

Yeah, I don't know. It's almost a curse that humans started being able to think beyond the chimp level.

Smokey D
08-17-2007, 03:48 AM
Eh, as you said, all the positive stuff was in the past, the whole 'working class' ethic/culture is dying away. The ALP aren't that different from the Liberals these days. The political elite are all just concerned with making Australia a stronger force in the international economy.

And yeh, thanks for the workchoices idea, hadn't thought of that. I'll include that with Howard's dodgy economic policies.

I just want to point out that Australia has become more significant in the international economy, and has also had some very positive wage-growth etc. They aren't necessarily exclusive.

Eh, eugenics is complicated. We'd still need the less intelligent people to do the hard yards though (that is if we were still adopting the capitalist system).

No, that's not true at all.

Yeah, I don't know. It's almost a curse that humans started being able to think beyond the chimp level.

Wait, what?

badtaste
08-17-2007, 03:54 AM
I just want to point out that Australia has become more significant in the international economy, and has also had some very positive wage-growth etc. They aren't necessarily exclusive.

Positive wage growth for who? Poverty still exists, rich will become richer, poor will become more poor.

No, that's not true at all.

You really ought to explain yourself. I really don't like it when people just comment "That is wrong.", "No, band A sucks", etc...

Heck, if it isn't true, why not? If I'm wrong, and you can prove that I'm wrong, then hey, I'm willing to change my mind. But if you just go, "That's not true at all", you're not really helping the situation.

Wait, what?

I'd be much happier not being able to think. Just eat and breed.

Smokey D
08-17-2007, 04:00 AM
Positive wage growth for who? Poverty still exists, rich will become richer, poor will become more poor.

No, the poor don't become more poor. That's what wage growth means. The rich become richer, but the poor also become richer (albeit at slower rates).

You really ought to explain yourself. I really don't like it when people just comment "That is wrong.", "No, band A sucks", etc...

You don't need to be stupid to do hard labour, and very few people are so stupid that they'd be satisfied with only menial jobs.

Heck, if it isn't true, why not? If I'm wrong, and you can prove that I'm wrong, then hey, I'm willing to change my mind. But if you just go, "That's not true at all", you're not really helping the situation.

Because I have a million experiences not available to an ape and I don't die at early ages from infections or bone-breaking labour.


I'd be much happier not being able to think. Just eat and breed.

No you wouldn't. You can't really be happy if you can't conceptualise happiness. All you can have is transient sensations of pleasure.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-17-2007, 04:15 AM
When I say intelligent I don't just mean MENSA type chaps. Just people who aren't goddamned retards who have to fuc'k up a good thing. You know, the kind of people who make a truely free society impossible.

badtaste
08-17-2007, 04:19 AM
No, the poor don't become more poor. That's what wage growth means. The rich become richer, but the poor also become richer (albeit at slower rates).

Things get expensive. I doubt those in poverty will benefit much.

You don't need to be stupid to do hard labour, and very few people are so stupid that they'd be satisfied with only menial jobs.

Few intelligent people would be satisfied with jobs that don't stimulate them. I don't think its about stupid people being satisfied with dodgy jobs. I thought that was how we operated now. Some people aren't able to get a decent education to get a job that requires formal education. They become the working class (or something like that).

Because I have a million experiences not available to an ape and I don't die at early ages from infections or bone-breaking labour.


Eh? I don't know what you're replying to.

No you wouldn't. You can't really be happy if you can't conceptualise happiness. All you can have is transient sensations of pleasure.

Fine then. I'd just eat and breed. Still good.

Smokey D
08-17-2007, 06:13 PM
I'm tempted to make another thread out of this conversation.

Things get expensive. I doubt those in poverty will benefit much.

The idea is there are fewer people in poverty thanks to the wage growth.

Few intelligent people would be satisfied with jobs that don't stimulate them. I don't think its about stupid people being satisfied with dodgy jobs. I thought that was how we operated now. Some people aren't able to get a decent education to get a job that requires formal education. They become the working class (or something like that).

The working class is much bigger than just those people who can't get a decent education. And lots of very smart people have jobs that don't fulfill them.

Fine then. I'd just eat and breed. Still good.

You wouldn't be happy though.

And you wouldn't really have an awareness of eating and breeding. You'd just do it.

badtaste
08-17-2007, 10:41 PM
I'm tempted to make another thread out of this conversation.

If you want to. A warning though - I don't claim to be a genius in these areas, and I'm not arrogant/ignorant enough to pretend to. So yeah, expect to do more explaining than discussing with me.

The idea is there are fewer people in poverty thanks to the wage growth.

I think it all sounds great on paper, but in reality, I don't think it would occur (Good liberal and capitalist propaganda). Especially with the current world as it is, structural unemployment will probably increase, jobs are still insecure, etc...

The working class is much bigger than just those people who can't get a decent education. And lots of very smart people have jobs that don't fulfill them.

You still haven't how my comment 'isn't true at all'. You just keep disputing what I say. Why don't you offer your version? That way, I can see what you're trying to get at.

You wouldn't be happy though.

And you wouldn't really have an awareness of eating and breeding. You'd just do it.


With my 'fine then' comment, I dismissed the happiness thing. And yeh, you summed it perfectly, I'd just do it.

When I say intelligent I don't just mean MENSA type chaps. Just people who aren't goddamned retards who have to fuc'k up a good thing. You know, the kind of people who make a truely free society impossible.

Aren't they the ones running the world? If so, they're smart enough to hire the intelligent ones.

Smokey D
08-18-2007, 01:12 AM
I think it all sounds great on paper, but in reality, I don't think it would occur (Good liberal and capitalist propaganda). Especially with the current world as it is, structural unemployment will probably increase, jobs are still insecure, etc...

No, it has occured. It's not a debate. We have seen it happen.

I don't see why structural unemployment would increase, though. And that hasn't been bourne out by the stats either. Unemployment rates are smaller in neo-liberal economies than in places like Germany, France etc.

You still haven't how my comment 'isn't true at all'. You just keep disputing what I say. Why don't you offer your version? That way, I can see what you're trying to get at.


I don't understand what you want. I'm saying the working class isn't what you described. That's what I'm getting at.

badtaste
08-18-2007, 01:38 AM
No, it has occured. It's not a debate. We have seen it happen.

I don't see why structural unemployment would increase, though. And that hasn't been bourne out by the stats either. Unemployment rates are smaller in neo-liberal economies than in places like Germany, France etc.

Eh, what I meant is, there is still inequality going on. Woohoo for wage growth, but so what? Poverty (whatever amount that may exist) still is, they don't get support, throw in the indigenous issues, etc..



I don't understand what you want. I'm saying the working class isn't what you described. That's what I'm getting at.

You missed my '(or something like that)'. I can't even remember what context I was originally referring to it in, but I'm pretty sure I just generalised it for the sake of simplicity.

And yeh, you still haven't explained it (I get the feeling you don't care for it). You just point out that you think I'm wrong.

Smokey D
08-18-2007, 08:52 AM
Eh, what I meant is, there is still inequality going on. Woohoo for wage growth, but so what? Poverty (whatever amount that may exist) still is, they don't get support, throw in the indigenous issues, etc..

First of all, minimising poverty and thereby state dependence is a good thing. Secondly, they do get support -- Australia has a pretty extensive welfare system -- and thirdly my point was against your argument against the economy, not the Aborigines. How Australia deals with its native population is apalling.


And yeh, you still haven't explained it (I get the feeling you don't care for it). You just point out that you think I'm wrong.

You want me to tell you what hte working class is?

Reaganista
08-18-2007, 04:45 PM
people who dont own capital

Hababi
08-19-2007, 07:59 PM
For those of you who think I never criticize Israel, here's something I'm :mad: at Israel for:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_refugees;_ylt=AlWg2x.Lk.AGVuJGwfQHGO.s0NUE

Dr Hooch
08-19-2007, 08:07 PM
For those of you who think I never criticize Israel, here's something I'm :mad: at Israel for:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_refugees;_ylt=AlWg2x.Lk.AGVuJGwfQHGO.s0NUE

hypocrites.

italic zero
08-19-2007, 08:07 PM
you know most of the refugees from darfur are muslim, right???

RIP Ian Curtis
08-19-2007, 08:10 PM
I don't like the current climate of "everyone is morally obliged to take in reffos". Countries should retain the right to not give a fu'ck. Why can't the Sudanese stay in Egypt? Why head to a country where they are a racial and religious minority?

Dave de Sylvia
08-19-2007, 08:53 PM
Because Egypt is a hellhole.

gregulus
08-19-2007, 09:25 PM
I don't like the current climate of "everyone is morally obliged to take in reffos". Countries should retain the right to not give a fu'ck. Why can't the Sudanese stay in Egypt? Why head to a country where they are a racial and religious minority?
people wanting better quality of life? what a bunch of assholes.

Der Übermensch
08-19-2007, 09:27 PM
why aint u online greg?

Reaganista
08-19-2007, 10:17 PM
For those of you who think I never criticize Israel, here's something I'm :mad: at Israel for:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_refugees;_ylt=AlWg2x.Lk.AGVuJGwfQHGO.s0NUE

ya it's surprising to see a racist country do something like that

o wait no it isnt

Iskandar
08-19-2007, 11:16 PM
It's like a second Exodus.

lunchforthesky
08-20-2007, 03:25 AM
It's like a second Exodus.

Or like a first seen as the other one didn't happen :p

Israel sucks (although has a "right" to exist), yet another example of them being a racist nation.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 05:48 AM
people wanting better quality of life? what a bunch of spatulas.

It's the same as Muslim refugees passing through Indonesia (the largest Muslim nation on earth) to get to Australia/New Zealand because we have welfare. Fu'ck them. I work and pay taxes for me, not for looking after the world's refuse.

Dr Hooch
08-20-2007, 07:19 AM
It's like a second Exodus.

movement of jah people

gregulus
08-20-2007, 12:37 PM
It's the same as Muslim refugees passing through Indonesia (the largest Muslim nation on earth) to get to Australia/New Zealand because we have welfare. Fu'ck them. I work and pay taxes for me, not for looking after the world's refuse.

PEOPLE WHO WANT A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE ARE LOW LIFE SCUMBAGS WHO DON'T DESERVE ANYTHING BUT THE SUFFERING THEY'D EXPERIENCE WHERE EVER THEY COME FROM RAWR!!!!!!!!!!!!

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 01:24 PM
If I don't want to help, why the hell should I?

Amit
08-20-2007, 01:57 PM
then don't live in australia you stupid cunt

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:01 PM
Man I'm already planning my move to Saudi. Need to find a good uni there.

PerpetualBurn
08-20-2007, 02:01 PM
If I don't want to help, why the hell should I?

I'm glad you have a government that makes you contribute because you're too dumb to do it voluntarily.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:06 PM
I'm glad you have a government that makes you contribute because you're too dumb to do it voluntarily.

Okay.

So we've got people fleeing from persecution in their own countries, which makes them refugees. So they pass through 6 countries where they aren't repressed on their way to a first world nation they can bludge off. Arseholes to them.

Amit
08-20-2007, 02:08 PM
Okay.

So we've got people fleeing from persecution in their own countries, which makes them refugees. So they pass through 6 countries where they aren't repressed on their way to a first world nation they can bludge off. Arseholes to them.

yeah immigration sucks oh wait

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:10 PM
Difference between proper immigration and refugees. I'm all in favour of massive amounts of proper immigration (check out history, funny how the biggest economic boom times in both America and Australia have coincided with massive increases in immigration. But I'm totally against taking in any refugees.

Amit
08-20-2007, 02:12 PM
because you're a complete moron with a hilariously misplaced sense of self entitlement and pretentiousness

which is excusable i suppose since you're just another misanthropic young white adolescent

kudos to you i suppose

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:14 PM
Right on every account except the adolescent. Or maybe that too, when do you stop being an adolescent?

Amit
08-20-2007, 02:15 PM
idk

it's different for every person

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:18 PM
So it ain't the same as "teenaged"? Well I guess your right on every account then.

Although I'd like you to explain the self-entitlement bit to me a little, not quite seeing where you're coming from there. The pretention thing I agree with, being an elitist, pretentious prick is my survival mechanism.

Iskandar
08-20-2007, 02:19 PM
Cease this silly argument.

Amit
08-20-2007, 02:21 PM
So it ain't the same as "teenaged"? Well I guess your right on every account then.

Although I'd like you to explain the self-entitlement bit to me a little, not quite seeing where you're coming from there. The pretention thing I agree with, being an elitist, pretentious prick is my survival mechanism.

those refugees have just as much of a right to come to your country and live there

all you had to do is pop out of a floppy vagina

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:22 PM
Cease this silly argument.

Do i have to?

Dr Hooch
08-20-2007, 02:30 PM
yeah immigration sucks oh wait

:lol::lol::lol:

Chances are one of his great grandads was a rapist!

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:32 PM
:lol::lol::lol:

Chances are one of his great grandads was a rapist!

Not following?

Iskandar
08-20-2007, 02:32 PM
Do i have to?You might as well.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:35 PM
You might as well.

Only because your avatar stares at me with sultry eyes.

Iskandar
08-20-2007, 02:37 PM
It's true. Harrison Ford was a beautiful man, once.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:39 PM
His strong, masculine yet not unkind expression has sapped my will for internet arguing.

gregulus
08-20-2007, 02:39 PM
listen guys, i'm better than you and entitled to more than you because i was born in a first world nation. don't try to take what i am entitled to. your parents were too stupid to live in a first world nation. what a bunch of blithering idiots they were. oh, what's that? you want a chance? too bad. i'd rather just let you suffer. helping other people less fortunate than myself who, in no way, are to blame for their situation other than being born in a certain place. nope.

rip ian curtis would like harrison ford. he was a pretentious asshole in the empire strikes back (carrie fisher: "i love you" harrison ford: "i know" *CARBONITE*) just like rip ian curtis is now.


maybe if we froze rip ian curtis in carbonite and he was thawed out by a sexy babe in a ridiculous disguise he would change...

RIP Ian Curtis
08-20-2007, 02:42 PM
Excercising self-control is hard.
Grrr...

Dr Hooch
08-20-2007, 02:58 PM
Not following?

British still sore you're not part of the empire; make jokes about how austrailia used to be a prison.

Iskandar
08-20-2007, 03:10 PM
Screw the empire.

lunchforthesky
08-20-2007, 04:21 PM
It annoys me how much romanticising there is of the British Empire.

Reaganista
08-20-2007, 04:56 PM
then don't live in australia you stupid cunt

123

Mr. Ron
08-20-2007, 11:52 PM
Hmmmm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p51TN_Kuq0E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

RIP Ian Curtis
08-21-2007, 12:50 AM
British still sore you're not part of the empire; make jokes about how austrailia used to be a prison.

Oh right. You'll have to excuse me being retarded. Great, great grandad was an armed robber actually.

gregulus
08-21-2007, 07:44 PM
So, last sunday, me and a group of friends are sitting outside a tattoo shop just kicking it and this crackhead walks by. he says at first "you guys are suave," which makes absolutely no sense in the first place because we were just sitting around. then he looks directly at me and goes "you're a jew" (he was wrong) and continues to tell us how the jews control the media (steve, you would have probably knifed this guy) and goes on about jewish conspriacies and then walks off only to come back and tell us that jews are alright though, because if god says they're blessed, then they gotta be alright.

hey steve, how does that guy make you feel? would you smoke a nice rock with him? what about sell him some shitty rock laced with arsenic? would you do the dirty with some of his lady-friend crack whores if it meant killing him and there was absolutely no chance of getting any sort of diseases? what if you were offered $10,000?

pedro durruti
08-21-2007, 09:23 PM
That speeding ticket I got... dismissed! Heheh

Iskandar
08-22-2007, 12:34 PM
It always feels good to beat the system.

RIP Ian Curtis
08-22-2007, 12:35 PM
Dear lord im wasted. I switched from beer, wine and bourbon to vodka because im getting sick of the taste of the others. Now im posting from a 45 degree angle.

griftadan
08-23-2007, 03:32 AM
how long do you think it would take to convince nintendo to make wii: drinking games?

Amit
08-23-2007, 03:33 AM
umm

you can do that already...?

Dr Hooch
08-23-2007, 03:46 AM
I can't even imagine what they would even do differently to be honest

griftadan
08-23-2007, 04:00 AM
umm

you can do that already...?

nintendo doesn't do those types of games

it would be different because you would literally be playing **** like beer pong and quarters

Dr Hooch
08-23-2007, 04:06 AM
what and then the wiimote administers the alcohol directly to your veins

griftadan
08-23-2007, 04:32 AM
no you just drink along with the game at the corresponding times

although i think we can agree that we need our top scientists working on your idea

lunchforthesky
08-23-2007, 04:42 AM
I play Mario Kart drinking games. Whatever place you finish is how many shots you drink. Works pretty well.

Amit
08-23-2007, 10:33 AM
nintendo doesn't do those types of games

it would be different because you would literally be playing **** like beer pong and quarters

ohhhhhh okay

...then play beirut irl?

griftadan
08-23-2007, 12:47 PM
i can already do that, i want a cheap digital imitation

Hababi
08-26-2007, 10:56 AM
So I get home from work, load up the pit, open a thread, go to reply...and the forum is locked.

Man oh man.

dei
08-26-2007, 10:57 AM
Yeah, true! At least the other forums are still open. But for how long? :(

Iscaryot
08-28-2007, 12:51 AM
smokey it was just a chicken getting it's head cut off :(

i read the announcement i made the thread as a joke because it wasn't anything that should really bother anyone unless they masturbate to animal rights posters

Der Übermensch
08-28-2007, 04:16 PM
So.... I may be going to hell :-p

Knifeboy
08-28-2007, 05:01 PM
I'll meet you there, why do you say so?


So, after reading a little about how a cpu adds 2 numbers together via the registry, external cache, and ram, and then realising that your everyday computer does something akin to that over a billion times a second..
I realised how this is one of the things that really reveal how mindblowingly assmunchingly ignorant the "theory" of "Irreducible complexity" is

Der Übermensch
08-28-2007, 05:24 PM
I somehow have ended up kinda dating two girls at once...
I didn't mean to, and I wish I wasn't
I'm going to hell because I made plans with one, then SWITCHED THEM because the other one was only free at the time the first one was taking...

Knifeboy
08-28-2007, 05:31 PM
Ouch... That's bad... Not in the "oh man you're going to hell" way, but in the "there's no way that could end up good" way

italic zero
08-28-2007, 05:39 PM
the scratches on your face will be battle wounds

Der Übermensch
08-28-2007, 05:39 PM
Well, I have an easy way out... I leave to go back to college in less than a week...


In other news, Australia is AWSOME. A party leader, Kevin Rudd... maybe the next PM, admits he a)went to a strip club while on an official visit to the UN and b)was so shitfaced he can't remember much of it.
The femisist party says 'Can't blame a guy for getting drunk' and the Christian lobby says "Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone"...

Reaganista
08-28-2007, 08:39 PM
as long as everyone agrees that they hate natives and minorities

PerpetualBurn
08-28-2007, 09:15 PM
Only those pikeys.

Iskandar
08-29-2007, 03:31 AM
Canada.

gregulus
08-29-2007, 10:28 AM
Canada.

**** it

GreyHam
08-29-2007, 12:12 PM
i wish more politicians got pissed in their free time and acted like the rest of the human race

id love to challenge john prescott to a drinking game...

not irish boxing though

Iskandar
08-29-2007, 01:05 PM
**** itno it's awesome

lunchforthesky
08-29-2007, 01:15 PM
In other news, Australia is AWSOME. A party leader, Kevin Rudd... maybe the next PM, admits he a)went to a strip club while on an official visit to the UN and b)was so shitfaced he can't remember much of it.
The femisist party says 'Can't blame a guy for getting drunk' and the Christian lobby says "Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone"...

Haha that's awesome.

The Bishop of Manchester was on day time tv today, complaning about the worrying trend in Britain of a small minority becoming "too religious."

Iskandar
08-29-2007, 01:19 PM
Haha that's awesome.

The Bishop of Manchester was on day time tv today, complaning about the worrying trend in Britain of a small minority becoming "too religious."The Anglicans are alright, really.

lunchforthesky
08-29-2007, 01:20 PM
The Anglicans are alright, really.

I don't believe so it's not for me but the Church of England does good work for the most part. Has all the charitable and endearing qualities with non of the hate and intolerance.

Hababi
08-29-2007, 01:34 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070829/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=Al2MXkqzBTy.uPE53ELZhsKs0NUE

:)

Dr Hooch
08-29-2007, 01:45 PM
I don't believe so it's not for me but the Church of England does good work for the most part. Has all the charitable and endearing qualities with non of the hate and intolerance.

I was brought up CoE, and for the vast most part they're lovely tolerant people.

We never had any of that "Feel bad for original sin" sh!t at my church. It was all "check it out, jesus was awesome!"

Iskandar
08-29-2007, 01:52 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070829/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=Al2MXkqzBTy.uPE53ELZhsKs0NUE

:)sexcellent

dei
08-29-2007, 03:27 PM
National Geographic channel told me that the jellyfish are taking over the oceans and seas, and it's messing with our program. And the reason they're messing with our business is because we're all up in theirs. I'm scared.

ringworm
08-29-2007, 03:43 PM
yeah, i saw that too, some of the ones in Japan get up to 450lbs and are ruining fishing, but at the same time, overfishing is prob a cause of the rise of the jellyfish

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070829/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=Al2MXkqzBTy.uPE53ELZhsKs0NUE

:)
cool news, we just may win this war yet :p lol

Dr Hooch
08-29-2007, 03:54 PM
:lol:

win


war


iraq


:lol:



:lol:

ringworm
08-29-2007, 04:34 PM
lol, pls note the humor that was intended