PNWI Community Thread version 3.0 (KEEP REFRIGERATED AT ALL TIMES)

[Hababi]

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steve i could go into chemotherapy and still be better looking than you no offense

Your vanity is as misplaced as the hairs that used to populate your cranium.

[Iskandar]

Is that you? Weird.

[Amit]

are you done yet or do you not want any advice about how to not look like a pedo

[Hababi]

Is that you? Weird.

Which one is weird? Yeah they're both me, separated by 7 or so years.


are you done yet or do you not want any advice about how to not look like a pedo


amit brings the lulz

[Amit]

first i'd recommend getting a better razor

[Hababi]

first i'd recommend getting a better razor

Actually I like facial hair. I know it makes you jealous that within two days I grow more facial hair than you have cranial hair, but you don't need to turn it into pitiful E-fury :\

[Amit]

your face doesn't look good with facial hair; you'd be kicking *** with a clean-shaven look (and a better haircut)

if you had a little bit darker skin and hair, then things would be different

i'm just trying to help out but if you want to reject it and try and make fun of me that's cool too

[Hababi]

your face doesn't look good with facial hair; you'd be kicking *** with a clean-shaven look (and a better haircut)

if you had a little bit darker skin and hair, then things would be different

I'm slowly working on a deeper tan so that's up for amendment. I don't like the cleanly shaven look :\

[Amit]

I'm slowly working on a deeper tan so that's up for amendment. I don't like the cleanly shaven look :\

well that's good; i would also recommend, that if you do go for facial hair, stubble would work best with your facial features (and don't emphasize the mustache too much or you'll look silly)

and if you grow more hair than this damn i am impressed steve:

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v45/212/91/5407380/n5407380_30589557_3900.jpg

[PerpetualBurn]

Steve looks like he fondles choirboys' naughty bits tbh

[Hababi]

well that's good; i would also recommend, that if you do go for facial hair, stubble would work best with your facial features (and don't emphasize the mustache too much or you'll look silly)

and if you grow more hair than this damn i am impressed steve:

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v45/212/91/5407380/n5407380_30589557_3900.jpg

I actually had only a mustache for a day or two, last year. Then I realized how utterly ridiculous it looked and shaved it off :\

[Amit]

yeah i dont think anyone can pull off a mustache

just a big no no in general

[Hababi]

If it was back in the late 1800s and there was the option for those wicked pointy mustaches then it'd be a different story.

[Amit]

oh steve ._.

[Iskandar]

Which one is weird? Yeah they're both me, separated by 7 or so years.



amit brings the lulzI've seen pictures and the second one just didn't look like you. Maybe it's the sunglasses.

[Mr. Ron]

Cyber soldier 4 gawd


http://i15.tinypic.com/67ijuyd.jpg

[Iskandar]

Hey, I'm a Christian.

[italic zero]

zero post the party picture with the bola tie where you look human

[Knifeboy]

fileden.com/files/2007/3/13/880684/wake_up.gif

it's ****ing annoying how this place has started molesting links with spaces

[ringworm]

My new favorite comedian
DOUG STANHOPE


DOUG STANHOPE: NO REFUNDS is on Showtime some this week, check it out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9076533379569527478&q=DOUG+STANHOPE%3A+NO+REFUNDS&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[Unreal]

My new favorite comedian
DOUG STANHOPE


DOUG STANHOPE: NO REFUNDS is on Showtime some this week, check it out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9076533379569527478&q=DOUG+STANHOPE%3A+NO+REFUNDS&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

I personally like Strutter his real name escapes me.
www.struttergear.com

[PerpetualBurn]

yeah i dont think anyone can pull off a mustache

just a big no no in general

http://www.recordonline.com/_images/boratPromo.jpg

You are so very wrong.

[Knifeboy]

http://i19.tinypic.com/490ffxt.jpg

[RIP Ian Curtis]

The two most important issues facing this generation are bringing back the moustache and bringing back the man's hat for everyday wear.

Fu'cking JFK.

[Der Übermensch]

I have been trying to bring the hat back... but no one follows my example :(
I will never grow a 'stache though

[Hababi]

Haha I like the French president:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/sarkozy_photographers;_ylt=AgewGVms4AB2VvU50YUCVna s0NUE

[Der Übermensch]

OMG!!!! ZERO LIKES SOMETHING THAT IS FRENCH!
I think the world is about to end... the apocalypse must be nigh...

[spitfirejunky]

This one will remain a classic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uxb0JHqzlA

[Hababi]

This one will remain a classic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uxb0JHqzlA

Haha yeah I don't get what was behind that...

[spitfirejunky]

Haha yeah I don't get what was behind that...

He was having a vodka drink-off with Putin before the conference.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

I have been trying to bring the hat back... but no one follows my example :(
I will never grow a 'stache though

I've got a short, clipped old British Colonial style 'stache. As for hats, I really want to get a number of good quality but plain hats, 1930's style. You look at photos of bread line sin the depression, with thousands of jobless and homeless, and they're still all wearing hats. Classy.

[Der Übermensch]

I have a black, fedora style called a "Bogart" (Wonder why...), it's ok, but it had a trimmed edge which makes it bend upwards slightly after awhile, and I have to have it dry cleaned and starched to go back down, which is annoying. I used to have a nice white, broad brimmed but it's beat up to hell... I'm gonna buy a grey one in the latter style when I get a chance.
The dying out of the hat as an essential piece of clothing is the greatest tragedy of the 20th century :(
You should read 'Hatless Jack' btw.

[Iskandar]

I only have one hat, which is my Red Army ushanka.:)

[Reaganista]

i have a cordouroy baseball cap with a polo logo it's pimp

[griftadan]

it better be pre-frayed

[RIP Ian Curtis]

I have a black, fedora style called a "Bogart" (Wonder why...), it's ok, but it had a trimmed edge which makes it bend upwards slightly after awhile, and I have to have it dry cleaned and starched to go back down, which is annoying. I used to have a nice white, broad brimmed but it's beat up to hell... I'm gonna buy a grey one in the latter style when I get a chance.
The dying out of the hat as an essential piece of clothing is the greatest tragedy of the 20th century :(
You should read 'Hatless Jack' btw.


I'm also working fervently on bringing back the neckerchief, reckon that might work?

[griftadan]

lol did anyone else see people beating the **** out of each other for the barry bonds 656 ball?

[Iskandar]

Further proof that sports need to be abolished.

[griftadan]

lol you were never picked for dodge ball

[Iskandar]

lol you were never picked for dodge ballDon't bring up the past.

[Mr. Ron]

I loved dodgeball. I could play that all day.

[Amit]

i kick *** at dodgeball

[Knifeboy]

I'd rock at dodge ball because I'd be in my home sitting in my sofa watching tv
good luck hitting me there dumbass jocks

[Amit]

lol clever!

[Hababi]

I loved dodgeball. I could play that all day.

short people do better at it.

I was pretty good at dodgeball. I was really good at soccer defense, because I'd just shadow the best player and make sure he never got the ball. And I pwn at volleyball :D

[PerpetualBurn]

I was really good at soccer defense, because I'd just shadow the best player and make sure he never got the ball.

Man marking the "best player" doesn't make you good at football.

[Hababi]

Man marking the "best player" doesn't make you good at football.

It makes you effective.

[PerpetualBurn]

No it doesn't.

A centre-back or full-back man-marking an attacking midfielder through a match would pull the whole back line out of position.

I can only assume you've never played or watched football of a respectable level.

[Iskandar]

Americans don't care for soccer. The rest of the world does, but not them.

Well, neither do Canadians.

[griftadan]

dude we got david beckham now its turning around

although i was really pissed when i bought tickets to FC dallas and he didn't show

[Iskandar]

Guess it's just Canadians, then.

[Mr. Ron]

I played soccer for most of my childhood. I liked it, but then you had the kids on the team where their dads were the couches....and you know how that goes.

[PerpetualBurn]

dude we got david beckham now its turning around

although i was really pissed when i bought tickets to FC dallas and he didn't show

Moving to LA Galaxy only shows that Beckham no longer cares enough about playing good football.

To re-establish himself as a great footballer and back in the Englad side he needs to be in the best league possible, and right now that's the Premiership.

[The_Passenger]

Question:

Why does everyone think Beckham is so awesome?

I mean he was a very good player at times, but he was never that great.

It's amazing how public opinion changes anyway, 9 years ago he was widely hated in England.

[Mr. Ron]

Why was he hated?

[PerpetualBurn]

Because he was one of the best midfielders in the world when he was at Man U.

[The_Passenger]

Why was he hated?

He 'cost us the world cup'.

He got sent off in agame against Argentina at the 98 WC and people blamed him when we lost on penalties.

Everyone needs a scapegoat I suppose, but it was hardly just his fault.

Because he was one of the best midfielders in the world when he was at Man U.

He was very good, but Giggs>Beckham for example and no one goes on about him anywhere near as much.

[PerpetualBurn]

I didn't hate him for getting sent off.

I hated him for getting sent off for tripping some Argie instead of breaking their legs.

[Reaganista]

i hate him for playing soccer
and not being american

[Mr. Ron]

yeah I just don't care about sports in general to get that worked up over something like this.

[The_Passenger]

I enjoy various sports but yeah I don't get worked up about them.

The fact that tabloids (the Mirror in particular I think) were putting pictures of his face on dartboards etc was excessive to say the least.

[Reaganista]

i get worked up over sports all the time it's cool

[Mr. Ron]

Why can't we just have a good old fashioned war with you britts again? For old time's sake.

[PerpetualBurn]

It irritates me what a big deal is being made of him signing for LA Galaxy when the reality is that the American league is a terrible standard and this pretty much signifies the end of his career as a top midfielder.

[The_Passenger]

Why can't we just have a good old fashioned war with you britts again? For old time's sake.

I'm game.

We get to win this time, right? Just even things out.

[Reaganista]

um i think the big deal is financial i didnt think anybody thought he did it to cement his on-field legacy or anything

but idk how the british press talked about it

[Mr. Ron]

I'm game.

We get to win this time, right? Just even things out.

As long as we can have juice and crackers afterwards.


C:

[The_Passenger]

um i think the big deal is financial i didnt think anybody thought he did it to cement his on-field legacy or anything

but idk how the british press talked about it

A lot of people seem to think he's going to vastly improve the standard of football in America, which is odd because better players have failed at doing this.

But mostly it was about the vast amounts of money he was making for it.

[PerpetualBurn]

um i think the big deal is financial i didnt think anybody thought he did it to cement his on-field legacy or anything

but idk how the british press talked about it

Well he could have still had a massive pay-day without crippling his future on the pitch.

But you're American so you really don't get football.

[The_Passenger]

As long as we can have juice and crackers afterwards.


C:

Sounds fair.

[Reaganista]

he could improve the standard if he got americans to actually watch it doesn't really matter if he's good or not

Well he could have still had a massive pay-day without crippling his future on the pitch.
i thought he was washed up who cares about his future

[Mr. Ron]

Maybe posh was whisperin' mad jive into hiz ears to make a nigga make dem mistakes.

[Iskandar]

I blame women, as usual.

[PerpetualBurn]

i thought he was washed up who cares about his future

Considering he was recently reselected for the England squad there would've been plenty of English Premier League teams to take him.

[Reaganista]

then he's still a good player

[PerpetualBurn]

Well this pretty much cripples his chances of regaining form.

Because he's going to be playing very crappy teams.

[Reaganista]

regaining form wtf are you talking about

[Mr. Ron]

Everyone knows soccer is for gays and little girls anyways.

[The_Passenger]

regaining form wtf are you talking about

regaining form=starting to play well again

[Iskandar]

Everyone knows soccer is for gays and little girls anyways.Latinos?

[Reaganista]

regaining form=starting to play well again
england has a time machine?

[Mr. Ron]

Latinos?

There is no difference.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

It's all about rubgy. Any sport which lets me indulge in my love of hurting people and my secret love of the warm embrace of other, musclebound men is the sport for me

[griftadan]

the only reason that american soccer sucks is because no one watches is it (compared to american football, baseball and basketball) and no one will watch it because it sucks it's a bit of a paradox

[The_Passenger]

england has a time machine?

of course, you didn't know?

[Mr. Ron]

lmao look at this little gem I found:





Atheism and Crime

Yesterday I was in a heated debate on MSN Chat about the conection between ATHEISM and CRIME. I believe that atheism is ACCOUNTABLE for all crimes on Earth. I have finally found the connection between atheism and crime.


As everybody KNOWS people are born not believing in God. Therefore they are BORN atheists. Knowing that common sense suggests that ALL criminals were ORIGINALLY atheists. That includes the most heinous CRIMINALS such as Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Tupac Shakur. Criminals who commit RELIGIOUS crimes against Christianity and other PROPER religions tend to empathize with other anti-Christian atheists (pardon the redundancy). As for criminals who commit crimes AGAINST atheists in the name of Christianity like homophobes they are simply trying to repress their atheistic/homosexual TENDANCIES but rather then act Christian about it they take it to an atheistic extreme.



Joseph Stalin, Atheist: 20 million plus dead

Adolph Hitler, Atheist: 10 million plus dead
Mao-Tse-Tung, Atheist: 40 million plus dead
Pol Pot, Atheist: 2 million dead
Kim-Il-Sung, Atheist: 5 million dead
Fidel Castro, Atheist: 1 million dead

Pope John Paul II, Anita Bryant and Pat Robertson put together have murdered no one. When will people UNDERSTAND this: atheism = mass murder.


All criminals have been atheists at ONE TIME in there lives? I don't know about you but if there was ever a reason to OUTLAW atheism and other non-Christian religions this is it.

[The_Passenger]

wow

I don't know what else to say

[Iskandar]

Man, I love being an atheist.

[Der Übermensch]

That includes the most heinous CRIMINALS such as Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Tupac Shakur
...Thats my favorite part...

[Dave de Sylvia]

Grab ya glocks when you see Tupac
Call the cops when you see Tupac


uh

[gregulus]

this guy's on to something. i'm sure the templars all said "sike" right before they killed someone.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

Man...
Hitler...
Stalin...
Tupac?

I mean the man was a rapist sure but sh'it.

[Hababi]

Man...
Hitler...
Stalin...
Tupac?

I mean the man was a rapist sure but sh'it.

haha

an you think I'm conservative, Ron :o

Actually he's kinda like Totah/Coheneran is to many of the liberals on the board--he takes a point that's within the normal limits of logic and belief, and flies off the hinges with it to produce something :lol: inducing.

He does hit at a rather important point though--since industrialization, atheists (and a few Muslims) have accounted for every great atrocity.

[PerpetualBurn]

How is that important?

[Hababi]

How is that important?

Atheism introduces subjective, situational morality and allows an individual to feel no responsibility answer to anyone other than themselves.

[PerpetualBurn]

I wouldn't say that feeling no responsibility to anyone other than themselves is a pervasive trait of atheists.

[Hababi]

I wouldn't say that feeling no responsibility to anyone other than themselves is a pervasive trait of atheists.

Of all atheists? No, I wouldn't say it is, either.

[PerpetualBurn]

So it's not really important at all then.

[Hababi]

So it's not really important at all then.

It doesn't have to be universally applicable to be relevant.

[PerpetualBurn]

Well it's not even true in so much as a significant percentage.

[Hababi]

Well it's not even true in so much as a significant percentage.

A significant enough percentage to kill 100 million people.

[PerpetualBurn]

Well no.

Because that they were atheist is entirely incidental.

Atheism was not their motivation.

[Hababi]

Well no.

Because that they were atheist is entirely incidental.

Atheism was not their motivation.

I think Smokey and I were through this exact discussion only a few weeks ago :p

but they were pursuing an atheistic vision of society.

[PerpetualBurn]

Yeah, an atheistic vision which only one in a million would share.

[Reaganista]

He does hit at a rather important point though--since industrialization, atheists (and a few Muslims) have accounted for every great atrocity
hay guess what you have a lot more in common with noam chomsky than you think

[Hababi]

Yeah, an atheistic vision which only one in a million would share.

All of their cronies shared it.

[Reaganista]

could you repeat some of your general criticisms of noam chomsky plz i wanna see how perfectly accurately they also apply to you

[Hababi]

could you repeat some of your general criticisms of noam chomsky plz i wanna see how perfectly accurately they also apply to you

Noam Chomsky spent a good portion of his career as a Pol Pot apologist

I haven't :\

[Reaganista]

that's specific not general

you're an israel apologist tho, so there is still a parallel

[Hababi]

that's specific not general

What general, specifically, are you looking for?

you're an israel apologist tho, so there is still a parallel

Yes I do defend democracies with excellent human rights records. Chomsky on the other hand defended and attempted to obscure genocide, which should put him in line with David Irving :\

[Reaganista]

What general, specifically, are you looking for?

wtf?
general sherman


Yes I do defend democracies with excellent human rights records. Chomsky on the other hand defended and attempted to obscure genocide, which should put him in line with David Irving :\
israel is a racist democracy that kills innocent muslim babies
the main differnce is the khmer rouge killed their own people and israelis kill people they invaded

[Hababi]

:lol:

[Der Übermensch]

Yes I do defend democracies with excellent human rights records.

I'm more pro-Israel than anti, but to say it has an "excellent human rights record" is all but baseless.

[Hababi]

I'm more pro-Israel than anti, but to say it has an "excellent human rights record" is all but baseless.

The allegations against it are mostly Arab propaganda that doesn't stand up to analysis. If this were peace time, and Israel had the policies it has, then I could understand it, but this is war time, and I can't imagine any nation behaving better toward a group of people sworn to its destruction.

[Reaganista]

and I can't imagine any nation behaving better toward a group of people sworn to its destruction
i agree palestinians have been really really patient with israel

[PerpetualBurn]

All of their cronies shared it.

Lol.

[Unreal]

i agree palestinians have been really really patient with israel

Its the other way round IMO

[Iskandar]

but this is war timeNo, war time doesn't excuse anything.

[Dr Hooch]

zero i come back after 10 days and you're still talking sh!t about israel's less than perfect human rights record



weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak

[Hababi]

No, war time doesn't excuse anything.

When a group of people is trying to kill you, you treat them differently than if they were :cool: this is just common sense

[Mr. Ron]

ffs steve atheism has nothing to do with people getting killed.

[Mr. Ron]

I can't believe I just read this:

I think if you and I jumped into a time machine, and traveled back to the colonies, made slavery illegal, then jumped back to '07... you would notice nothing much had changed. The only difference would be that there would be less black Americans.

[italic zero]

Black People: They just sit there

[Mr. Ron]

Really though....I don't know what to say to the guy I'm so flabbergasted.

[italic zero]

rainroll him

[Mr. Ron]

So do you, or do you not believe that the United States as she stands today was built on the backs of poor oppressed slaves? Was that intrepid 1% able to accomplish 51% of the work or more?



omg this guy is a dumbass.

[Iskandar]

When a group of people is trying to kill you, you treat them differently than if they were :cool: this is just common senseNo, war is not an excuse to treat civilians badly.

[Anxious]

I need one non-white person who is responsible for an historical boost in United States history. Excluding the civil rights movement and for some reason Albert Einstein doesn't count.

I'll be interested in the responses.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

No, war is not an excuse to treat civilians badly.

Whether it should be or not, it kinda always has been. Blitzkrieg/Dresden/Guernica anyone? And in the Israeli situation, citizens are the enemy. Ah, complicated modern war.

[Dave de Sylvia]

It'd be quite difficult to argue that neither of those took part in the civil rights movement.

You could make a case for Alexander Hamilton.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

James Brown

[Amit]

I need one non-white person who is responsible for an historical boost in United States history. Excluding the civil rights movement and for some reason Albert Einstein doesn't count.

I'll be interested in the responses.

miles davis

he changed music five or six times in the latter half of the 20th century

[Dr Hooch]

Amit if I listened to Kula Shaker's second album and liked all the indian bits

what should i listen to that won't scare me away

[Amit]

i have to go for the next 7 hours

when i return i will answer your question!

[Dr Hooch]

huzzah!

[Knifeboy]

oh the suspense

[Reaganista]

I need one non-white person who is responsible for an historical boost in United States history.
wtf historical boost?
that's such an idiotic concept i want to beat you

[Amit]

lol i know

[Reaganista]

oh, amit =/

[Amit]

what =\

[Reaganista]

lol

[Amit]

._.

[Der Übermensch]

I need one non-white person who is responsible for an historical boost in United States history. Excluding the civil rights movement and for some reason Albert Einstein doesn't count.


Matthew Henson

[Iskandar]

I should just leave this forum.

[Hababi]

I should just leave this forum.

why is that.

[Iskandar]

why is that.Because I'm an idiot and my opinions are always wrong.

[Hababi]

Because I'm an idiot and my opinions are always wrong.

where have you surmised this from?

PS that never affected me :D

[Iskandar]

where have you surmised this from?

PS that never affected me :DThat's just how I feel. I lack the education of most people here, so I have nothing worthwhile to contribute.

As for my opinion being wrong, well, socialists are always idiots and raving lunatics and IT DOESN'T WORK.

I'm feeling oddly bitter.

[Hababi]

That's just how I feel. I lack the education of most people here, so I have nothing worthwhile to contribute.

Most people here are high school kids ;)

You lack the knowledge of science to converse with Amit or Hooch, but then just ignore those threads (that's what I do, and I have a decent amount of knowledge in a few areas of science).

Smokey is the only one who actually pwns everyone in broad knowledge.

As for my opinion being wrong, well, socialists are always idiots and raving lunatics and IT DOESN'T WORK.


Well duh

I'm feeling oddly bitter.

What thread produced this?

[Iskandar]

Most people here are high school kids ;)

You lack the knowledge of science to converse with Amit or Hooch, but then just ignore those threads (that's what I do, and I have a decent amount of knowledge in a few areas of science).Oh well.
Well duhSee, I don't agree with that though.
What thread produced this?Nothing in particular.

[PerpetualBurn]

that's what I do, and I have a decent amount of knowledge in a few areas of science

Serenity said a funny.

Remember that time you denied evolution and thought that HIV+ workers should be banned from the food industry?

Good times.

[Hababi]

Oh well.

Most science threads (eg ones not started by me) suck anyway.

See, I don't agree with that though.

Neither does a good (wrong) portion of the board.

Nothing in particular.
Oh geez then you're :emo:ing for nothing :(
Serenity said a funny.

Remember that time you denied evolution and thought that HIV+ workers should be banned from the food industry?

Good times.

Shouldn't you go back to arguing against basically the entire rest of the forum in my wonderful organ donation thread, and forget about ancient history? :\

[Dave de Sylvia]

are we to understand you no longer object to aids sandwiches?

[Hababi]

I still wish someone would provide the open air life of the HIV virus :\

[PerpetualBurn]

Said history is still hilarious.

And I'm right about organs.

So no.

[Hababi]

Said history is still hilarious.


what's hilarious is your obsession with being an E-fighter :\

[Iskandar]

Neither does a good (wrong) portion of the board.See, I don't like being told a certain viewpoint is simply wrong. I don't agree with a lot of what you say, but I don't just outright state that you are wrong.

[Hababi]

See, I don't like being told a certain viewpoint is simply wrong. I don't agree with a lot of what you say, but I don't just outright state that you are wrong.

Well yeah but if we were actually in a debate thread, I'd explain why you're wrong ;) Here though I just do the Tway thing. But yeah see the universal health care thread for my rather exquisite debating :D

[Iskandar]

Well yeah but if we were actually in a debate thread, I'd explain why you're wrong ;) Here though I just do the Tway thing. But yeah see the universal health care thread for my rather exquisite debating :DI'm being serious.

[Hababi]

I'm being serious.

about what?

[PerpetualBurn]

what's hilarious is your obsession with being an E-fighter :\

I like to think I have a comic edge.

[gregulus]

You lack the knowledge of science to converse with Amit or Hooch, but then just ignore those threads (that's what I do, and I have a decent amount of knowledge in a few areas of science).

i get no respect.

[Iskandar]

about what?About how this forum's inability to show respect to other user's differing opinions stifles interesting, stimulating discussion. There's not much point in going here if every thread is nothing but "you're wrong and an idiot stop posting."

[Hababi]

I like to think I have a comic edge.
no.

About how this forum's inability to show respect to other user's differing opinions stifles interesting, stimulating discussion. There's not much point in going here if every thread is nothing but "you're wrong and an idiot stop posting."

Well I think that I'm one of the best at avoiding that type of interaction, unlike certain other people :o

[Iskandar]

Well I think that I'm one of the best at avoiding that type of interaction, unlike certain other people :oI guess, although it's still rampant.

[Hababi]

I guess, although it's still rampant.

Yeah but that's due mainly to the outspoken atheists (eg PB) and trolls (Tway). You can't blame me for that :o

[PerpetualBurn]

no.



I'm fairly sure everyone finds me hilarious.

[Iskandar]

Yeah but that's due mainly to the outspoken atheists (eg PB) and trolls (Tway). You can't blame me for that :oYou still think that way, though.

[Hababi]

I'm fairly sure everyone finds me hilarious.
Add delusional to your character traits.
You still think that way, though.

You mean that I think you're wrong? You think that I'm wrong, don't you? :p

[PerpetualBurn]

Add delusional to your character traits.


Okay.

It'll come after awesome.

[Hababi]

fitting

[Iskandar]

You mean that I think you're wrong? You think that I'm wrong, don't you? :pI don't, though. I disagree with you. That doesn't mean your views are invalid.

[PerpetualBurn]

You can't disagree with him.

Think you're right.

And not think he's wrong.

That's plain spineless.

[Iskandar]

You can't disagree with him.

Think you're right.

And not think he's wrong.

That's plain spineless.No, I prefer my own opinion to his.

[lfantwister]

In the same vein, I'm leaving the forum for a while guys

[Iskandar]

In the same vein, I'm leaving the forum for a while guysThey're dropping like flies.

[PerpetualBurn]

No, I prefer my own opinion to his.

How spineless.

[Iskandar]

How spineless.It's so nice that you have your own opinion.

[Hababi]

No, I prefer my own opinion to his.

ah why so?

[PerpetualBurn]

Look if you think your opinion pertains to truth then it doesn't make sense to pretend to be all understanding and act as if that doesn't make other opinions wrong.

If you don't hold your opinions to be true, I can't see why you'd have them at all.

[Iskandar]

ah why so?Because I weigh the alternatives and choose the one that I consider to be best.

[Iskandar]

Look if you think your opinion pertains to truth then it doesn't make sense to pretend to be all understanding and act as if that doesn't make other opinions wrong.

If you don't hold your opinions to be true, I can't see why you'd have them at all.I'm sorry, that's really stupid.

If I like apple juice more than orange juice, are people who like orange juice wrong?

[PerpetualBurn]

No because that's not the same at all.

If you thought apple juice were the superior juice, then maybe.

[Hababi]

Because I weigh the alternatives and choose the one that I consider to be best.

By best you mean "most correct", right? Isn't that just another way of saying the "right" one?

I'm sorry, that's really stupid.

If I like apple juice more than orange juice, are people who like orange juice wrong?

But we're not talking about juice, or women (where we all know I'm right ;)). We're talking about such things as economic policy, and in regards to issues like that, there will be one best policy. Now, I've given up on threads that exist strictly in the philosophical sense, ie marriage, because it's pretty to go beyond "well this is what I believe and this is what you believe," but there's much more productivity to be had in say the health care thread.

Also, thread enjoyment and productivity usually runs inverse to PB involvement ;)

[Iskandar]

No because that's not the same at all.

If you thought apple juice were the superior juice, then maybe.I do think apple juice is superior. How does this invalidate the opinion of those who think orange juice is superior?

[Iskandar]

By best you mean "most correct", right? Isn't that just another way of saying the "right" one?Depends how you define "right." Do we mean what is best for me? For the greatest number of people?
We're talking about such things as economic policy, and in regards to issues like that, there will be one best policy. Not necessarily.

[PerpetualBurn]

I do think apple juice is superior. How does this invalidate the opinion of those who think orange juice is superior?

Because superior means one is better than the other.

And if apple juice is better than orange juice

then

orange juice can't be better than apple juice.

Two mutually exclusive statements can't both be true.

[Iskandar]

Because superior means one is better than the other.

And if apple juice is better than orange juice

then

orange juice can't be better than apple juice.

Two mutually exclusive statements can't both be true.I think apple juice is superior for totally subjective reasons. That doesn't mean apple juice is actually superior according to objective criteria, if such a thing exists.

[PerpetualBurn]

No.

You prefer apple juice.

You can't make an objective statement that it's better.

[Hababi]

Depends how you define "right." Do we mean what is best for me? For the greatest number of people?


Well that definition could be debated over ;)

But I think it's the best for all people. Strict Benthan utilitarianism could lead to some rather scary things.

Not necessarily.

How could there not be?

[Iskandar]

No.

You prefer apple juice.

You can't make an objective statement that it's better.Now we're into semantics, which is dull.

[PerpetualBurn]

No we're not.

"I prefer the taste of orange juice" is completely true and can occur completely truthfully with the statement "You prefer apple juice".

Only one can be better.

That's not semantic.

That's fundamental logical principles.

If A>B then B>A cannot be true.

[Iskandar]

Well that definition could be debated over ;)

But I think it's the best for all people. Strict Benthan utilitarianism could lead to some rather scary things.Lately I've been tending to agree with that. It also fits with my Marxist-ideologue posing. Y'know, all for the people.
How could there not be?Two different economic policies could yield different but equally beneficial results, if a cost/benefit analysis were taken.

[Iskandar]

No we're not.

"I prefer the taste of orange juice" is completely true and can occur completely truthfully with the statement "You prefer apple juice".

Only one can be better.

That's not semantic.

That's fundamental logical principles.

If A>B then B>A cannot be true.Yeah. So define "better."

[PerpetualBurn]

I don't really need to.

Since I'm not making a stupid statement about how one juice can actually be better than the other.

[Hababi]

Two different economic policies could yield different but equally beneficial results, if a cost/benefit analysis were taken.

Two different ones could be beneficial, yes, but equally so? I think when it comes right down to it, one will eclipse the other. I mean, Sweden and Singapore's economic policies both have been very successful for and beneficial to their people. They have very high standard of livings. The two policies are very different. But I think that one is superior to the other. That would involve a lot more research and stuff to discuss though.
Now, you could try to make the point that different policies are better for different people at different times, in different places, etc.

[Iskandar]

Two different ones could be beneficial, yes, but equally so? I think when it comes right down to it, one will eclipse the other. I mean, Sweden and Singapore's economic policies both have been very successful for and beneficial to their people. They have very high standard of livings. The two policies are very different. But I think that one is superior to the other. That would involve a lot more research and stuff to discuss though.
Now, you could try to make the point that different policies are better for different people at different times, in different places, etc.I do believe that different policies are better for different people at different times, in different places.

[Iskandar]

I don't really need to.

Since I'm not making a stupid statement about how one juice can actually be better than the other.Then this whole discusson was moot. I shake your hand.

[PerpetualBurn]

No.

This whole conversation means you shouldn't make a claim which can either be true or false whilst pretending that nobody is right or wrong.

[Hababi]

I do believe that different policies are better for different people at different times, in different places.

But what's to say Singapore's economic policies wouldn't work for Sweden?

[Iskandar]

No.

This whole conversation means you shouldn't make a claim which can either be true or false whilst pretending that nobody is right or wrong.I'm not aware of doing so.

[Iskandar]

But what's to say Singapore's economic policies wouldn't work for Sweden?I'm not an economist; my ability to make such predictions is limited. I'm assuming there would be various advantages and disadvantages associated with adopting substantially different policies anywhere.

[Hababi]

I'm not an economist; my ability to make such predictions is limited. I'm assuming there would be various advantages and disadvantages associated with adopting substantially different policies anywhere.

But going back to the original point, since you think that there are different bests for different people, you still think there is a best for America. Which can be debated over.

[Iskandar]

But going back to the original point, since you think that there are different bests for different people, you still think there is a best for America. Which can be debated over.America? I haven't put much thought to America, actually. I think the best policy for Canada would be a moderate form of socialism.

But people get what they elect.

Well, not people who live under dictatorships.

[Hababi]

America? I haven't put much thought to America, actually. I think the best policy for Canada would be a moderate form of socialism.


Well start thinking about America:smash: I mean it's only the world's only super power and the default source of discussion here :(

But people get what they elect.


Depends.

[Iskandar]

Well start thinking about America:smash: I mean it's only the world's only super power and the default source of discussion here :(For America? A moderate policy.
Depends.I mean that a little ironically.

[Hababi]

For America? A moderate policy.
I mean that a little ironically.

define moderate

[Iskandar]

define moderateModerate is relative, so moderate for the US.

[Hababi]

Moderate is relative, so moderate for the US.

but what does that mean?

[Iskandar]

but what does that mean?Not particularly biased to any one side.

[Hababi]

Not particularly biased to any one side.

That's still pretty vague :\

[Iskandar]

That's still pretty vague :\Consider the major sides in American politics. Essentially it's two-dimensional, Democrats vs. Republicans. A moderate policy would be one that both sides could agree on.

Come on, you know what moderate is. I think you're just bored.

[Hababi]

Consider the major sides in American politics. Essentially it's two-dimensional, Democrats vs. Republicans. A moderate policy would be one that both sides could agree on.

Come on, you know what moderate is. I think you're just bored.

I am.

[Iskandar]

I am.No, you're right-wing.

[Hababi]

No, you're right-wing.

no I'm Mr. Moderate.

[Iskandar]

no I'm Mr. Moderate.No you're not, no more than I am

[Hababi]

according to the political compass I am :D
But you're much further to the left than I am to the right.

[Iskandar]

according to the political compass I am :D
But you're much further to the left than I am to the right.You hate the Political Compass and go on all the time about how biased it is

How far to the left am I?

[Hababi]

You hate the Political Compass and go on all the time about how biased it is


In particular on their outlandish presentation of political candidates. But there is some utility to it for us.


How far to the left am I?

2x as much to the left as I am to the right.

[Iskandar]

2x as much to the left as I am to the right.Maybe.

[Hababi]

:cool: :thumb:

[Iskandar]

But if you're Mr. Moderate, as you claim, I must not be too far out there.

[Hababi]

well 2x is a bit of an understatement probably.

[Iskandar]

well 2x is a bit of an understatement probably.Maybe.

[Hababi]

More than maybe.

[Iskandar]

More than maybe.But I'm still awesome. Don't you think I'm awesome?

[Hababi]

But I'm still awesome. Don't you think I'm awesome?

If you don't stop letting PB get on your nerves then I might change my opinion :o

[Dr Hooch]

(that's what I do, and I have a decent amount of knowledge in a few areas of science).

awwwww

anyway in more important news this evening i had to pay £5.20 for a double gin and tonic

i was

bemused

[Dr Hooch]

But I'm still awesome. Don't you think I'm awesome?

you, you're awesome

[PerpetualBurn]

awwwww

anyway in more important news this evening i had to pay £5.20 for a double gin and tonic

i was

bemused

Well your problem is that you're drinking gin and tonic instead of a pint.

But that's obscene.

[Dr Hooch]

they didn't have anything i wanted on tap

stella?

eugh

[PerpetualBurn]

I'd drink Stella over gin and tonic.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Stella is amazing. Wash your palette out.

[Dr Hooch]

what am i a wifebeater

[Dave de Sylvia]

I wear a Stella-soaked tank top when I beat my wife.

[PerpetualBurn]

She brought it on herself to be honest.

They always do.

[badtaste]

Can someone please explain to me why a majority of male homosexuals have similar characteristics, similar behaviours, etc.?

It just seems that every male homosexual that I've ever met, is very similar to the stereotypical male homosexual.

[PerpetualBurn]

Stop watching Will and Grace or something.

[Dr Hooch]

Stop watching Will and Grace or something.

winner

[Paul150point5Retrograde]

Can someone please explain to me why a majority of male homosexuals have similar characteristics, similar behaviours, etc.?

It just seems that every male homosexual that I've ever met, is very similar to the stereotypical male homosexual.

Because they're the ones who draw attention to themselves.

[Already_Taken]

Can someone please explain to me why a majority of male homosexuals have similar characteristics, similar behaviours, etc.?

It just seems that every male homosexual that I've ever met, is very similar to the stereotypical male homosexual.

Stereotypes have to be formed somewhere right? sad but true.

and what paul said.

[badtaste]

Because they're the ones who draw attention to themselves.

I was going to mention that. Something like "Then again, the only homosexuals that I'm aware of, are the ones that act gay."

Stereotypes have to be formed somewhere right? sad but true.

and what paul said.

Mmm, yep, fair enough.

[Mr. Ron]

Hello.

[badtaste]

So I've finally figured that Americans sleep around this time of the day/night.

*pats back.

[thedeadwalk!]

I'm getting there.

[spitfirejunky]

It's 4:00 am here and I'm sober.

:(

[badtaste]

6:00 PM, Simpsons are on.

[Mr. Ron]

4:05 in the morning and my contacts are drying out in my eyeballs.

0_X

[The_Passenger]

You wear your contacts at the computer?

I only put them in when I go out tbh

(well unless you had just got back in)

[thedeadwalk!]

It's 12:50PM and I'm awake again. I hate sleeping.