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italic zero
06-15-2007, 04:24 PM
yeah i'm a little in love with her

PerpetualBurn
06-15-2007, 04:41 PM
She's a bit special, it has to be said.

gregulus
06-15-2007, 04:45 PM
i've only heard fidelity, but that songs incredibly catchy. the brits produce her and lily allen and us americans give the world brittney spears. wtf america.

italic zero
06-15-2007, 04:50 PM
she's not british, she just likes to pretend

PerpetualBurn
06-15-2007, 04:58 PM
i've only heard fidelity, but that songs incredibly catchy. the brits produce her and lily allen and us americans give the world brittney spears. wtf america.

Lily Allen is one of the worst things ever. Her music is absolutely awful. Bloody hell, her Dad was famous for singing Vindaloo, for crying out loud.

Regina Spektor's Russian in origin, and then moved to America. Her very London pronunciation of "Better" in fidelity is a tribute to the friends she made over a period of time she studied in England.

Dr Hooch
06-15-2007, 05:54 PM
have you seen the john rambo trailer? holy **** looks epic.

"When you're pushed..."

Mr. Ron
06-15-2007, 06:55 PM
Interesting:

http://us.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/06/13/century.old.whale.ap/index.html

siva_chair
06-15-2007, 07:05 PM
Regina Spektor.

She is gorgeous, and her music is freakin great.

i've only heard fidelity, but that songs incredibly catchy. the brits produce her and lily allen and us americans give the world brittney spears. wtf america.

She's a Ruskie, not a Brit. She has too nice a set of teeth to be British.

Sorry, had to say it.

have you seen the john rambo trailer? holy **** looks epic.

I have not seen this.....hmm.....

gregulus
06-15-2007, 07:06 PM
yeah, i forgot regina now resides in nyc. and that she was russian. i really did know all that, but for some reason when i typed that, i was thinking otherwise.

and lily allen's music sounds like a sunny day. not to mention she's cute too.

Mr. Ron
06-15-2007, 07:07 PM
Regina Spektor looks awful.

gregulus
06-15-2007, 07:11 PM
I have not seen this.....hmm.....

uh wtf. watch it now.

http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/05/19/john-rambo-iv-feature-trailer/

they took this one off of youtube.

gregulus
06-15-2007, 07:18 PM
Regina Spektor looks awful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGTDRztaCCw

are you dumb?

siva_chair
06-15-2007, 07:20 PM
Regina Spektor looks awful.

You need a STFU sandwich, too.

Mr. Ron
06-15-2007, 07:21 PM
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/5/9/1/9/9479195-9479198-slarge.jpg


I wouldn't let my dog bite that

PerpetualBurn
06-15-2007, 07:25 PM
She's actually not very photogenic, but the videos of her in interviews and playing live on youtube are immense.

siva_chair
06-15-2007, 07:28 PM
I just watched the Rambo IV trailer and I think I just busted a nut....

That is gonna be a sweet as the new Die Hard.

Mr. Ron
06-15-2007, 07:30 PM
The new Rambo looks ok.


There's no way the new Die Hard will be good. I know they'll **** it up somehow.

siva_chair
06-15-2007, 07:36 PM
The new Rambo looks ok.

Ok? It looks so badass.....


There's no way the new Die Hard will be good. I know they'll **** it up somehow.

No way. It looks like it's back to good ol' fashioned *** kicking. These kind of movies (no matter how unrealistic they are) balance out silly chick flicks (no matter how unrealistic they are), which tend to dominate the market these days.

Nothing more manly than a movie about kicking *** violently.

Mr. Ron
06-15-2007, 07:42 PM
I promise you it will be terrible for a few reasons:

1) sequels tend to suck when they try to "modernize" the series

2) I have a feeling there will be too much CGI

3) No Germans

4) Odds are there will be massive, patriotic "OMG GO AMERICA KILL TERRORIZSZSZ!" themes going on, and thats just gay.

5) Annoying sidekick

6) They will try to make new catch phrases that will not be as good as the old ones and therefore fail compared to them.

7) Too much unrealistic explosions, firefights, and cars taking out helicopters is just plain stupid when overused.

siva_chair
06-15-2007, 07:50 PM
I promise you it will be terrible for a few reasons:

1) sequels tend to suck when they try to "modernize" the series

John McClane is older in this one. They are trying to show that he can still kick terrorist ***, which is what he has always been about. Doesn't matter if it takes place today or 20 years ago. I fail to see how you can honestly say that without seeing the movie.

2) I have a feeling there will be too much CGI

Get used to that. It is the wave of the future.

3) No Germans

So what?

4) Odds are there will be massive, patriotic "OMG GO AMERICA KILL TERRORIZSZSZ!" themes going on, and thats just gay.

Why is that gay? The Die Hard movies have always been about John McClane pimp slapping terrorists with his dick in his hand while wearing no shoes and being hung over. I see no problem with continuing a badass series with more terrorists getting their asses kicked.

5) Annoying sidekick

Sidekicks are supposed to be annoying. Except of course Sam Jackson in the 3rd one, which just ruled.

6) They will try to make new catch phrases that will not be as good as the old ones and therefore fail compared to them.

You mean like Yippie Ki-Aye Mother****er?....Oh wait....

7) Too much unrealistic explosions, firefights, and cars taking out helicopters is just plain stupid when overused.

Screw realism. *** kicking action movies aren't supposed to be realistic. And who said they would be overused?

Reaganista
06-15-2007, 07:56 PM
i agree with everything ron said on this page guyz

siva_chair
06-15-2007, 07:58 PM
i agree with everything ron said on this page guyz

I am terribly sorry for your loss.

Reaganista
06-15-2007, 07:59 PM
no you see it was a victory since urrong

siva_chair
06-15-2007, 08:01 PM
no you see it was a victory since urrong

No I mean you seemed to have lost your sensibility. I sympathize for you man I really do.

Reaganista
06-15-2007, 08:07 PM
at least im not gettin all hot for ugly chicks and bruce willis movies

PerpetualBurn
06-15-2007, 08:32 PM
What the hell would a Christian know about action movies? They value human life.

Mr. Ron
06-15-2007, 08:33 PM
John McClane is older in this one. They are trying to show that he can still kick terrorist ***, which is what he has always been about. Doesn't matter if it takes place today or 20 years ago. I fail to see how you can honestly say that without seeing the movie.




Get used to that. It is the wave of the future.



So what?



Why is that gay? The Die Hard movies have always been about John McClane pimp slapping terrorists with his dick in his hand while wearing no shoes and being hung over. I see no problem with continuing a badass series with more terrorists getting their asses kicked.



Sidekicks are supposed to be annoying. Except of course Sam Jackson in the 3rd one, which just ruled.



You mean like Yippie Ki-Aye Mother****er?....Oh wait....



Screw realism. *** kicking action movies aren't supposed to be realistic. And who said they would be overused?

No, too much CGI completely ruins movies. Most directors use it for a replacement for creativity sometimes.


German terrorists are one of the major trademarks of the die hard series, and are way more badass than American or Muslim terrorists.


Its gay because they will just turn the movie into how "we gotta' stay the course on the fight on terror!" or some stupid BS like that.

Sidekicks do not have to be annoying, they can lend to the movie just as much as the main character. Look at Jackson's performance for reference.


If an action movie is supposed to be based in reality with normal people and real world events, then having unrealistic things happen in it (unless its a semi sci-fi movie or something) it makes no sense.

spitfirejunky
06-15-2007, 11:23 PM
I promise you it will be terrible for a few reasons:

1) sequels tend to suck when they try to "modernize" the series

2) I have a feeling there will be too much CGI

3) No Germans

4) Odds are there will be massive, patriotic "OMG GO AMERICA KILL TERRORIZSZSZ!" themes going on, and thats just gay.

5) Annoying sidekick

6) They will try to make new catch phrases that will not be as good as the old ones and therefore fail compared to them.

7) Too much unrealistic explosions, firefights, and cars taking out helicopters is just plain stupid when overused.

Agreed 100%.

Dave de Sylvia
06-15-2007, 11:29 PM
The Bruce Willis Blues Band is playing the casino I was in tonight in July. He's charging $50, that rascal.

pedro durruti
06-15-2007, 11:31 PM
What the hell would a Christian know about action movies? They value human life.
I would disagree

spitfirejunky
06-15-2007, 11:34 PM
The Bruce Willis Blues Band is playing the casino I was in tonight in July. He's charging $50, that rascal.

What does Bruce play?

Reaganista
06-15-2007, 11:35 PM
hopefully he one-hands a harmonica and waxes his head with the other

Amit
06-15-2007, 11:36 PM
lawl

siva_chair
06-16-2007, 02:15 AM
at least im not gettin all hot for ugly chicks and bruce willis movies

I'm not getting all hot for ugly chicks.

But hey, at least I don't listen to Sum 41. That would pretty lame.

What the hell would a Christian know about action movies? They value human life.

Yes but not human life within cinematic experiences.

As someone who work a long enough tenure in a video rental store in high school, I know plenty about action movies. Plus, I have a mane of pubic hair around the circumference of my testicles, so I naturally enjoy action movies.

No, too much CGI completely ruins movies. Most directors use it for a replacement for creativity sometimes.

Doesn't mean it can't be used effectively and creatively. See: Sin City.


German terrorists are one of the major trademarks of the die hard series, and are way more badass than American or Muslim terrorists.

Eastern Eurocommie terrorists are irellevant and outdated. They are silly and pose no threat other than through shizer videos on the internet.

Its gay because they will just turn the movie into how "we gotta' stay the course on the fight on terror!" or some stupid BS like that.

So fighting terrorism is stupid BS.....Gee I'm sure lot's of innocent people and freedom loving people in general would disagree with you on that....

Sidekicks do not have to be annoying, they can lend to the movie just as much as the main character. Look at Jackson's performance for reference.

Yes, but sidekicks are there so people can make fun of them. Unless, like has been mentioned, they are badass foul-mouthed mushroom cloud laying mother****ers like Sam Jackson. That is still and acception, not a standard, and I have no problem with that.

If an action movie is supposed to be based in reality with normal people and real world events, then having unrealistic things happen in it (unless its a semi sci-fi movie or something) it makes no sense.

Except for the fact that it is a movie and isn't limited to reality. Seriously, I go to movies to enjoy the visual and auditory experience, not to judge rather or not it "could have happened" or is even "likely to happen" it real life. Screw that, action movies are supposed to be about badass violent action, regardless of whether it is realistic or not.

Agreed 100%.

I'm sorry 100%.

The Bruce Willis Blues Band is playing the casino I was in tonight in July. He's charging $50, that rascal.

That seems kinda like a ridiculous price. That is even coming from someone who thinks Bruce Willis is badass.

Reaganista
06-16-2007, 03:06 AM
I'm not getting all hot for ugly chicks.

i thought you were defending that russian uggo earlier


But hey, at least I don't listen to Sum 41. That would pretty lame.
ur a casualty of society

Dr Hooch
06-16-2007, 07:43 AM
So fighting terrorism is stupid BS.....Gee I'm sure lot's of innocent people and freedom loving people in general would disagree with you on that....

What happened to you, man?

You've changed.

PerpetualBurn
06-16-2007, 07:55 AM
I preferred Siva when he talked a load of bollocks about reality in flux and it was funny.

gregulus
06-16-2007, 08:01 AM
I preferred Siva when he talked a load of bollocks about reality in flux and it was funny.

i'm just glad he's back tbh.


this forum was getting boring.

Hababi
06-16-2007, 08:46 AM
Still not sure what I'm going to major in :(

Basic two options:

1) Major in linguistics. The most realistic minor would be history, but being that I haven't taken a survey class in Latin America, I couldn't concentrate on Latin American history, which I wanted to do, being that I find the region interesting, and was planning on learning the two major tongues (Spanish, Portuguese) along with Quechua.
I'd have to concentrate on either American history or European history. There aren't that many interesting classes in American history (most of them fall under the 'loony leftist' branch, IE "women's history", "history of American workers" :rolleyes: ), so realistically it'd be European, where there are several interesting classes as well as some of the better regarded history professors. But wtf is the point of minoring in European history while learning Latin American languages??? :\ So, I'd have to learn European languages. French and German, with Irish Gaelic as my non-romance, non-baltoslavic, non-germanic, language.
Then there's the issue of jobs. I suppose that learning French and German (along with Gaelic and possibly adding another significant western European tongue), would increase my chances of getting employed, but a linguistics degree isn't the most marketable (avg salary, from what I researched, was around $34,000). I'd probably be compelled to do grad school, maybe in business, focusing on international business, and then getting a job with a company that does crosscontinental business.

2) Major in political science and minor in linguistics. The problem with this is there is one good Latin-American politics professor and two bad ones, and I'd probably have to take classes with the bad ones. Also course offerings are surprisingly light for the undergrad program; the best polisci professors teach eastern european classes, but wtf use would I have studying Russian politics when I don't plan on learning Russian (the Russian language program is one of the weakest in the college)??
And I still don't know what I'd do afterward. Avg starting salary for a polisci major is roughly $34,000, but again I don't know which sectors. This would be a flexible degree, as I'd only have 6 more polisci courses to take to earn it, but yeah, the courses aren't that great and half of the profs are poorly regarded. I could try to go onto grad school, in international affairs, but then, I can't picture myself working for, say, the CIA.



this forum was getting boring.

Yup I was the only thing holding it afloat :D

Dr Hooch
06-16-2007, 08:52 AM
I dunno, get a real degree or something?















:p










:p




Or maybe choose classes not based on proffessors? All subjects will have some worse and some better.

Hababi
06-16-2007, 08:54 AM
Or maybe choose classes not based on professors*? All subjects will have some worse and some better.

Linguistics has one of the strongest and most consistent stocks of professors. Poli sci is mixed. Stats, math and compsci are all more neg than pos. And having a good prof makes a huge difference. But that's not the only consideration.

Der Übermensch
06-16-2007, 11:23 AM
Wouldn't in be hard to major in a field in which one of the most prevalent theorists is also your sworn enemy?

siva_chair
06-16-2007, 11:27 AM
i thought you were defending that russian uggo earlier

I didn't see any uggo.

ur a casualty of society

Oh no I am absolutely heartbroken.

What happened to you, man?

You've changed.

Nope, still me. I've never supported terrorism and always supported badass action movies.

I preferred Siva when he talked a load of bollocks about reality in flux and it was funny.

Oh reality is still in flux. There just hasn't been much of a need to discuss it, as I haven't seen any thread worth mentioning anything of the sort in.

Reaganista
06-16-2007, 12:09 PM
I didn't see any uggo.
somebody posted a link earlier check it out if u wanna lose wood bro

zero i dont get the regional concentrations within history/poli sci programs at all but why dont you just put off picking a region until you take this survey course

gregulus
06-16-2007, 12:18 PM
major in biology. it's the coolest subject around.

Reaganista
06-16-2007, 12:19 PM
omg i had to take 2 bio classes thank god attendance was optional and nothing ever happened in lectures

siva_chair
06-16-2007, 12:19 PM
major in biology. it's the coolest subject around.

Except Audio Engineering.

Mr. Ron
06-16-2007, 12:45 PM
Siva I didn't say that fighting real world terrorism is BS, I said a movie that will just feed an American audience propaganda is BS.

siva_chair
06-16-2007, 12:56 PM
Siva I didn't say that fighting real world terrorism is BS, I said a movie that will just feed an American audience propaganda is BS.

I'm not thinking watching John McClane beat the **** out of some terrorists in a movie is going to garnish any support for GWB or anybody of that sort. If someone watches that movie and says "Gee, I really think we should blow up and invade more countries where terrorists could be hiding, because that is what that movie told me" is a 15 year old.

Anybody who lets blatently fictional action movies shape their political views and opinions in the real world is a moron.

Hababi
06-16-2007, 12:58 PM
Wouldn't in be hard to major in a field in which one of the most prevalent theorists is also your sworn enemy?

:lol: Hey, Chomsky's theories are becoming obsolete. In 50 years, he'll be an afterthought.



zero i dont get the regional concentrations within history/poli sci programs at all but why dont you just put off picking a region until you take this survey course


Don't have the time or course space available for that; plus I've already taken three survey courses.

Reaganista
06-16-2007, 01:01 PM
in 50 years you'll be really old

and ur school dont make no sense

italic zero
06-16-2007, 01:11 PM
at the rate he's going zero is going to be in school for the next 50 years

Hababi
06-16-2007, 03:11 PM
at the rate he's going zero is going to be in school for the next 50 years

:lol: That's the point, I need something that I can definitely accomplish within two years. Of course, most things would fit there if I didn't plan on taking four semesters of a language and trying to squeeze another two in of another one :\

gregulus
06-16-2007, 03:36 PM
omg i had to take 2 bio classes thank god attendance was optional and nothing ever happened in lectures

what bio classes?

Reaganista
06-16-2007, 09:50 PM
um the basic 2 they make all the freshmen bio majors take
one was gen bio the other was evolution and genetics

Iskandar
06-16-2007, 10:26 PM
There aren't that many interesting classes in American history (most of them fall under the 'loony leftist' branch, IE "women's history", "history of American workers" :rolleyes:I reckon women and working people are pretty important to any given society, and thus their history is valuble and worthy of study.
But wtf is the point of minoring in European history while learning Latin American languages???Spanish and Portugese are European languages.;)
with Irish Gaelic as my non-romance, non-baltoslavic, non-germanic, language.

I suppose that learning French and German (along with Gaelic Dude, don't learn Gaelic. It's totally useless, even in Ireland.

Reaganista
06-16-2007, 10:28 PM
I reckon women and working people are pretty important to any given society, and thus their history is valuble and worthy of study.
NO THATS COMMUNISM

Iskandar
06-16-2007, 10:31 PM
NO THATS COMMUNISMGuilty as charged. I am a communist, after all.

lfantwister
06-16-2007, 10:48 PM
NO THATS COMMUNISM
women arent communists

Reaganista
06-16-2007, 10:51 PM
women who study women are communist lesbians

Iskandar
06-16-2007, 10:52 PM
women arent communistsA bold statement. However, there have been a few notable woman communists, Rosa Luxembourg for one. It's arguable whether Emma Goldman could be called a communist, as she was first and foremost an anarchist.

lfantwister
06-16-2007, 10:57 PM
women who study women are communist lesbians

count me in

A bold statement. However, there have been a few notable woman communists, Rosa Luxembourg for one. It's arguable whether Emma Goldman could be called a communist, as she was first and foremost an anarchist.

sorry, i meant womens studies doesnt equate nicely with communism.

Iskandar
06-16-2007, 11:15 PM
sorry, i meant womens studies doesnt equate nicely with communism.Sure it does. Anybody who actually cares about women's studies is very likely to be a communist. Possibly just a lesbian, though.

Dave de Sylvia
06-16-2007, 11:30 PM
Dude, don't learn Gaelic. It's totally useless, even in Ireland.
It's a pretty awesome skill to have if you enjoy Irish history. Otherwise it's probably useless.

lfantwister
06-16-2007, 11:30 PM
Sure it does. Anybody who actually cares about women's studies is very likely to be a communist. Possibly just a lesbian, though.

Should i be offended here? i hate the damn commies but I just got done with 6 years of womens studies

Iskandar
06-16-2007, 11:36 PM
Should i be offended here? i hate the damn commies but I just got done with 6 years of womens studiesI guess by the rules of logic, you're just a lesbian then.

lfantwister
06-16-2007, 11:37 PM
that must be some infallible logic

i want you to analyse the rest of my life too. This could be fun. Go!

Iskandar
06-16-2007, 11:40 PM
that must be some infallible logic

i want you to analyse the rest of my life too. This could be fun. Go!Well, it's quite simple. Anyone who pursues women's studies must be a communist, lesbian or both. Since you're ruled out communism, you must be a lesbian by default.

I don't know anything about your life, though. You're just a screenname on the Internet to me.

Hababi
06-16-2007, 11:43 PM
I reckon women and working people are pretty important to any given society, and thus their history is valuble and worthy of study.

Giving them their own courses, let alone their own departments (women's studies :rolleyes: ) is over the top. They're part of history the same as anyone else.


Spanish and Portugese are European languages.

Pitt teaches Latin American Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese :o



It's a pretty awesome skill to have if you enjoy Irish history. Otherwise it's probably useless.

One of the classes I will take as part of my major concentration will probably be a class solely on Ireland, so it could come in handy :cool:

Plus I want to learn a language that very few other people know, so I can keep diary entries in it :D

lfantwister
06-16-2007, 11:43 PM
Well, it's quite simple. Anyone who pursues women's studies must be a communist, lesbian or both. Since you're ruled out communism, you must be a lesbian by default.

I don't know anything about your life, though. You're just a screenname on the Internet to me.

i guess you're half right?

At least it's a cool screenname dammit

Hababi
06-16-2007, 11:44 PM
Oh and a lot of people who pursue women's studies just can't cut it in regular ol' history :evil: :D

lfantwister
06-16-2007, 11:45 PM
Oh and a lot of people who pursue women's studies just can't cut it in regular ol' history

maybe theyre interested in the history or culture of women? seems pretty logical to me that its a legit course

Iskandar
06-16-2007, 11:55 PM
Giving them their own courses, let alone their own departments (women's studies :rolleyes: ) is over the top. They're part of history the same as anyone else.Given the status of women everywhere, which has only recently improved, that's not over the top at all.
Pitt teaches Latin American Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese :oThey're not incredibly different from their European counterparts.
Plus I want to learn a language that very few other people know, so I can keep diary entries in it :DI should use Arabic for that.

spitfirejunky
06-17-2007, 01:05 AM
Japanese would be good for that. Plus it would look badass.

Reaganista
06-17-2007, 01:12 AM
ok new found glory is totally awesome

siva_chair
06-17-2007, 01:31 AM
ok new found glory is totally awesome

If by awesome you mean completely shitty then you are correct.

Hababi
06-17-2007, 09:09 AM
Watching Joe Biden on Face the Nation. He's clearly the best of the bunch when it comes to Iraq, and it makes me wish he were the frontrunner :\

Reaganista
06-17-2007, 12:41 PM
If by awesome you mean completely shitty then you are correct.
all my life I’ve been looking for the answers
to the questions u never asked
and we never planned on this disaster
when will I let it go

gregulus
06-17-2007, 01:07 PM
those are deep lyrics.

italic zero
06-17-2007, 07:59 PM
Pitt teaches Latin American Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese
yeah so you'd have to learn one more subject form and a few more commonly used synonyms. the main differences are slang, which you mostly don't learn anyway.

Mr. Ron
06-17-2007, 09:19 PM
If by awesome you mean completely shitty then you are correct.

^^^^^




Circle Takes the Square have some of the best lyrics for their genre imo.

Map the words to deny, deny the symptoms, as 'oh yeah I'm doing fine', as I've found a most endearing psychosis.
Somewhere out there there's a thrill I swear. Desperate as I am I just can't strip bare and bleed the only purity I've known.
But I lay with reason. Found logic concieved in a walk with skin. I sleep with reason producing these monsters.
Under painted catcalls as in temptation. yeah there's a key to be in, but there's no shade, no shade to blame.
Waterfalls in a cool grey, and the struggle is colored grey this day. The caw of crows fills up the picture plane.
Our picture plane is veiled in central neutral grey. Absinthe to slight the pain. This world's this worst case color scheme.
Streaks of oil stain, stained the road he crawled on homeward.
Oh yeah, oh yeah he threw the switch, with some unwieldy gauge, absence of light remains.
I lay with reason so logic can reap in a walk with sin. El sueno razon produce monsinios.
When does this dream end? Now I've missed another whole season,
I've missed the fall, clearly its fallen on this land as fields once green are ochre now.
This is no dream. Trees have turned to skeleton, roots teased and knotted just below the surface skin of ground.
Stitched between the earth and the sky struggling to hold it down.
Sometimes to realize you have to lose track, lose track of sight blurring my vision makes it clear that tiny moving parts make up the whole.
The image is clear, a tower is built of my own pride, I cry in the shade that if offers, the only shelter I have.
When does this dream end? This is no dream. This is the waking living breathing caricature of a memory.
Shamelessly I cave in to temptation of creation. But still my only thrill is empty sidewalks, silent streets.
The caw of crows fills up the picture plane. This is your picture plain in central neutral grey.
This world's this worst case color scheme. Streaks of oil stain, stained the road he crawled on homeward.
Oh yeah, oh yeah he killed the switch with some unwieldy gauge, absence of light remains.
Life is lowly anonymity, in death a noble pose, a Marat David.
Tell me who wouldn't give their lives for such a soap box to die behind. Life is lowly, lowly anonymity.
In the space of a smile I found sleep. As in sorrow, so shall ye reap, as in reason so shall ye sleep.
Reap the promised end to the struggle. Reap every point on our linear path.
Reap the smiles in time we borrow, every harvest relies on the last.
Reap the promising song of the sparrow, that they learned from the birth of sea.
Silenced by the threnody of the crows. Reap the fallen fruit of the dogwood tree.
But I witnessed in all this silence one souls definition of beauty. and a backlit smile so temporary.
A facade so rich with evil history. Cast in direct opposition set to overwhelm this moment to shine and sleep-
came out on top of what was borrowed, and found all that beauty to be still.
Every breath as in sorrow, reap the promised end to this path, by every image that we borrow, every harvest depends on the past.
Subdivide in factions our linear parabola, we subdivide our waking hours to sleep.
While guilty eyes turn toward a porchlight, enlightenment is losing sight.
Somewhere out there there's a thrill I swear. In this low light town when my shift begins the streets reflecting yellow, yellow, yellow in the vacancy that overwhelms the red, red, red, your vehicle the color of expansion.
"Open up." the latter just a thought to thrill me "knock knock knock" the latter just a thought to thrill me.
"Red" is a four letter word. Four letter invitation. Now my head is locked in the direction of the sun...
Life is lowly anonymity, in death a noble prose, a Marat David.
Tell me who wouldn't give their lives for such a soap box to leave behind.
Life is lowly, lowly anonymity. I know its all been done before, I want to do it again. I want do it again.
Kill the switch.
This night our journey's through the dark.
Kill the switch, a welcome comatose, tonight we journey through the darkness.
As in sorrow, so shall ye weep, as in reason, so shall ye sleep.

Iskandar
06-18-2007, 09:20 AM
"Red" is a four letter word. No, it clearly has three letters.

Dr Hooch
06-18-2007, 09:37 AM
PNWI?

Morelike

I PWN

ringworm
06-18-2007, 09:51 AM
ok new found glory is totally awesome
ok, i hope you are kidding about this AND that Lohan is even remotely attractive

Swill_Merchant
06-18-2007, 11:04 AM
maybe theyre interested in the history or culture of women? seems pretty logical to me that its a legit course

I think it should be women's culture and history. Women's Studies sounds like something an aspiring OBGYN would take.

siva_chair
06-18-2007, 11:46 AM
So I just watched that documentary America: Freedom to Facism.

Interesting. Maybe I won't file my federal income taxes this year.

MNdrummer21
06-18-2007, 11:47 AM
Have fun getting voraciously pursued by the IRS!

siva_chair
06-18-2007, 11:52 AM
Have fun getting voraciously pursued by the IRS!

Yup. Assholes.

MNdrummer21
06-18-2007, 11:52 AM
lol yeah.

Reaganista
06-18-2007, 01:20 PM
ok, i hope you are kidding about this AND that Lohan is even remotely attractive
dood if i could **** lindsay lohan while listening to new found glory i could totally die right then

Der Übermensch
06-18-2007, 01:25 PM
Interesting. Maybe I won't file my federal income taxes this year.
Or you could do what my dad used to...

For a few years before he got married, supposedly instead of doing his taxes, he would just file a copy of his return from some years previous... He turned in the EXACT same thing for 4-5 years in a row...
Thats why my mum has always done the taxes... for 7 (I think thats the limitations) years after they were married, she was always afraid they would notice what he had done and come audit them...

dood if i could **** lindsay lohan while listening to new found glory i could totally die right then
I would too... from her STD's and the braindeath brought on by NFG...

Reaganista
06-18-2007, 01:28 PM
i doubt she has any terminal STDs and the herpies would be worth it

ringworm
06-18-2007, 01:29 PM
I would get their CD just so I could slit my wrist to avoid the horribly nasal sounding singer of that band and to avoid Lohan's dried up, inflamed, wrinkly twat :)

i would post pics, but i assume most have seen her getting out of that car and how horrendous her upskirt was :amaze:

Der Übermensch
06-18-2007, 01:37 PM
Even without anything terminal, I'd probably die of self-loathing at what I had done...

Reaganista
06-18-2007, 01:40 PM
ur lying i refuse to believe there's a person on earth who doesn't share that fantasy

Waltz Profit
06-18-2007, 01:44 PM
i don't tbh

Der Übermensch
06-18-2007, 02:43 PM
Most girls I know, let alone celebrities, are more attractive than Lindsay...

siva_chair
06-18-2007, 02:49 PM
Or you could do what my dad used to...

For a few years before he got married, supposedly instead of doing his taxes, he would just file a copy of his return from some years previous... He turned in the EXACT same thing for 4-5 years in a row...
Thats why my mum has always done the taxes... for 7 (I think thats the limitations) years after they were married, she was always afraid they would notice what he had done and come audit them...

Well, I don't even have to fill out a 1040, apparently.

There is no actual law that says I have to pay federal income tax.

Der Übermensch
06-18-2007, 02:59 PM
How'd u manage that!?

JayLinkReturns
06-18-2007, 03:08 PM
There are substantial laws (including a constitutional amendment - which makes the whole process constitutional) that requires payment of federal income taxes. These laws go back to the American Civil War. In addition, there are over 100,000 pages of tax laws related to federal income taxes. All those were passed by the Congress and signed into law by the President at the time.

To say that there is no legal basis for the payment of income taxes is ludicrous. Every piece of the legal code related to income taxes was passed into law. It is not the figment of some department's imagination.

You can try to NOT pay Federal Income tax for as long as you like. If you make substantial income and leave any kind of a paper trail, you will be audited and jailed. The IRS only goes after the big fish. If you earn 10-20K per year and never file, you will most likely slip thru the cracks.

siva_chair
06-18-2007, 03:11 PM
How'd u manage that!?

You don't have to either, apparently. There is no law that states we are required to pay federal income tax. I saw it in that documentary America: Freedom to Facism.

It was quite interesting and primarily dealt with the IRS, Federal Reserve, and a bunch of other things.

Can anyone find the law that says we have to pay federal income taxes?

siva_chair
06-18-2007, 03:13 PM
There are substantial laws (including a constitutional amendment - which makes the whole process constitutional) that requires payment of federal income taxes. These laws go back to the American Civil War. In addition, there are over 100,000 pages of tax laws related to federal income taxes. All those were passed by the Congress and signed into law by the President at the time.

Ok, show me this law(s).

To say that there is no legal basis for the payment of income taxes is ludicrous. Every piece of the legal code related to income taxes was passed into law. It is not the figment of some department's imagination.

Please, do show me this law.

You can try to NOT pay Federal Income tax for as long as you like. If you make substantial income and leave any kind of a paper trail, you will be audited and jailed. The IRS only goes after the big fish. If you earn 10-20K per year and never file, you will most likely slip thru the cracks.

The IRS cannot even show you where you are required to pay them, because there is no law that states we have to. If you can, please do show me, because I want to see this.

Der Übermensch
06-18-2007, 03:18 PM
Article 1, Section 8 of the US Consitution seems to make it pretty clear they can tax us if the want too...

JayLinkReturns
06-18-2007, 03:23 PM
Still, since I make a decent income and have a lot of deductions, I would rather play it safe and pay the piper (IRS).
I think if you never paid income tax at all , you might have a better chance of getting away with never paying, but if you are a regular taxpayer and decide to stop, they will open up a can of whoopass on you. I had a friend who couldn't pay taxes on his manufacturing business, and they locked up his warehouse and sold all of his inventory, so say what you will, the IRS can come in and destroy your life in a moments notice, with or without any written law.

siva_chair
06-18-2007, 03:32 PM
Article 1, Section 8 of the US Consitution seems to make it pretty clear they can tax us if the want too...

And Federal Income tax apparently does not meet those qualifications of taxation. Even the 16th Amendment doesn't allow it, as the Supreme Court has ruled something like income is limited to growth or profit (something like that, this is off the top of my head) and wages and labor do not qualify under that definition.

All this is discussed in the documentary. You should watch it.

siva_chair
06-18-2007, 04:58 PM
Still, since I make a decent income and have a lot of deductions, I would rather play it safe and pay the piper (IRS).
I think if you never paid income tax at all , you might have a better chance of getting away with never paying, but if you are a regular taxpayer and decide to stop, they will open up a can of whoopass on you. I had a friend who couldn't pay taxes on his manufacturing business, and they locked up his warehouse and sold all of his inventory, so say what you will, the IRS can come in and destroy your life in a moments notice, with or without any written law.

Doesn't make it exactly legal for them to do. They are a bunch of bullies and thugs. Someone has to stand up against them. Unless they can show me the law that specifically states that I have to pay a federal income tax, I shouldn't have to, correct?

You know, they tried to appease Hitler and he just kept taking more and more and more.....

Dr Hooch
06-18-2007, 05:24 PM
I don't get it

Why wouldn't there be a law saying you have to pay taxes?

That'd never have happened when you bitches had the monarchy keeping an eye on you

siva_chair
06-18-2007, 05:29 PM
I don't get it

Why wouldn't there be a law saying you have to pay taxes?

It isn't all taxes. Just the Federal Income tax. There are numerous other taxes that are perfectly legal and neccessary. That isn't what is in dispute.

That'd never have happened when you bitches had the monarchy keeping an eye on you

The monarchy blows.

Dr Hooch
06-18-2007, 06:15 PM
It isn't all taxes. Just the Federal Income tax. There are numerous other taxes that are perfectly legal and neccessary. That isn't what is in dispute.

Explain it to me?

Fed income tax is like, income tax to washington, not to your state, which takes it's own income tax?

JayLinkReturns
06-18-2007, 06:51 PM
Federal Income Tax funds all of our country's programs, government subsidies, military etc..
Here is a link with a pie chart

http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm

siva_chair
06-18-2007, 07:02 PM
Explain it to me?

Fed income tax is like, income tax to washington, not to your state, which takes it's own income tax?

Federal income tax is tax on the wages that you earn from your job. The federal government takes this from you supposedly for public works and whatnot. What the government actually spends it on is interest it owes to the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is really a group of private banks. Obviously there is much more to it than this, but you get the idea.

Federal Income Tax funds all of our country's programs, government subsidies, military etc..
Here is a link with a pie chart

http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm

That isn't exactly true either. Our income tax pays for the interest owed to the Federal Reserve, and doesn't really go to these things, which is bullshit. The documentary discusses this in quite a bit of detail. Everyone should check it out, regardless of whether or not they are against a federal income tax or not. The documentary backs up their sources, while the IRS seems either unwilling or unable to explain and show why they get to do the things they do by law.

Smokey D
06-18-2007, 08:09 PM
Guys, we already have a Federal Income Tax thread.

JayLinkReturns
06-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Guys, we already have a Federal Income Tax thread.

Sorry, I din't know that.

Reaganista
06-18-2007, 10:03 PM
Most girls I know, let alone celebrities, are more attractive than Lindsay...
haha you have laughable taste in women

siva_chair
06-19-2007, 11:23 AM
Guys, we already have a Federal Income Tax thread.

Ooops.

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 04:10 PM
Deep question here...

If you screw a whore, than leave without paying her, is it rape or theft?

Mr. Ron
06-19-2007, 04:12 PM
Deep question here...

If you screw a whore, than leave without paying her, is it rape or theft?

Its being fiscally responsible.

italic zero
06-19-2007, 04:18 PM
justice

Knifeboy
06-19-2007, 04:18 PM
Deep question here...

If you screw a whore, than leave without paying her, is it rape or theft?

it's not rape
but I'd think most whores would want you to pay upfront

Iskandar
06-19-2007, 04:20 PM
Deep question here...

If you screw a whore, than leave without paying her, is it rape or theft?It can't be rape because she consented to it. It's more like theft.

Mr. Ron
06-19-2007, 04:23 PM
So, Descartes walks into a bar to get a beer.

He orders a beer and sits there and drinks it.


When he was done with his beer, the bar tender comes over and asks: "I see you finished your beer, would you like another one?"


Descartes responded: "I think not"


And POOF, the bar tender disappeared.




:amaze:

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 04:28 PM
It can't be rape because she consented to it. It's more like theft.

Thats what I ended up leaning towards, but it seems like it should be more, because the act of sex was based soley on the understanding of payment afterwards; ie the consent was conditional on the payment... so, (baring the legality of prositution) couldn't it be argued that because the 'contract' wasn't fufilled on the part of the john, the contract as a whole is void, including the consent?

peeted
06-19-2007, 04:33 PM
So, Descartes walks into a bar to get a beer.

He orders a beer and sits there and drinks it.


When he was done with his beer, the bar tender comes over and asks: "I see you finished your beer, would you like another one?"


Descartes responded: "I think not"


And POOF, the bar tender disappeared.




:amaze:
I cant believe i laughed at that. Its almost as bad as
"why do Marxists drink earl grey?
"because proper tea is theft"

Iskandar
06-19-2007, 04:36 PM
Thats what I ended up leaning towards, but it seems like it should be more, because the act of sex was based soley on the understanding of payment afterwards; ie the consent was conditional on the payment... so, (baring the legality of prositution) couldn't it be argued that because the 'contract' wasn't fufilled on the part of the john, the contract as a whole is void, including the consent?Consent is consent.

Mr. Ron
06-19-2007, 04:46 PM
Consent is consent.

Consent can soooo easily be thrown out in a courtroom though.

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 04:48 PM
But consider the act from a legal standpoint... Although unwritten, there is a very implicit contract between the two, that reads something like this "The party of the first gives it's consent for the consummation of with the party of the second for the price of [$$$$] to be payed by the party of the second... or party of the seconds pervert husband".
Now, what it boils down to is does failure to pay [i]void the contract (retroactivly removing consent=rape), or merely amount to reneging on the stipulated conditions (theft)...

lfantwister
06-19-2007, 05:44 PM
But consider the act from a legal standpoint... Although unwritten, there is a very implicit contract between the two, that reads something like this "The party of the first gives it's consent for the consummation of [insert act here] with the party of the second for the price of [$$$$] to be payed by the party of the second... or party of the seconds pervert husband".
Now, what it boils down to is does failure to pay void the contract (retroactivly removing consent=rape), or merely amount to reneging on the stipulated conditions (theft)...

hahaha. This is funnier than the original joke

Smokey D
06-19-2007, 05:56 PM
I don't know if it would fall under the strict tests of rape, but some sort of sexual misconduct charge would apply.

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 05:56 PM
Joke? I'm serious!!! This kept me up for hours last night!

Mr. Ron
06-19-2007, 06:06 PM
Joke? I'm serious!!! This kept me up for hours last night!

I'm sorry, but thats just nerdy. :p


<333

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 06:09 PM
Didn't keep up as long as "Can Vegitarians be devout Catholics?" did though...

Mr. Ron
06-19-2007, 06:18 PM
Well, are you planning on visiting a whore?


>_>


<_<

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 06:33 PM
No... nor am I planning on being a Catholic Vegitarian...

lfantwister
06-19-2007, 06:36 PM
Maybe it doesnt count because Jesus wasn't really a man. So you're eating his divine flesh, not his manly flesh

italic zero
06-19-2007, 06:38 PM
no, jesus was 100% man and 100% god

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 06:40 PM
Meat is meat... no matter how godly it may be...

siva_chair
06-19-2007, 06:47 PM
no, jesus was 100% man and 100% god

And 200% revolutionary badass.

italic zero
06-19-2007, 06:53 PM
jesus was a xerox machine

griftadan
06-19-2007, 06:53 PM
that's way too many percentages

Iskandar
06-19-2007, 06:55 PM
Jesus of Nazareth was a radical rabbi.

italic zero
06-19-2007, 06:56 PM
more like rabbinical radii

YouGottaBeCrazy
06-19-2007, 06:58 PM
More like a radical rabbi

lfantwister
06-19-2007, 09:40 PM
scotch scotch scotch
scotchy scotch scotch
here it goes down
down into my belly
mm mmm mmm

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 09:45 PM
I prefer Bourbon...

Iskandar
06-19-2007, 09:55 PM
Gin.

Mr. Ron
06-19-2007, 09:57 PM
Coffee flavored rum.

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 09:57 PM
Even better :)
Nothing beats a martini in the evening

Mr. Ron
06-19-2007, 09:58 PM
Never had a martini before. I enjoy wines and German beers.


*snoody*

Iskandar
06-19-2007, 10:00 PM
Rum is generally too sweet for me, but it has that whole pirate appeal.

lfantwister
06-19-2007, 10:03 PM
Withthe exception of Ron Burgundy' i'm a vodka kid

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 10:07 PM
Can't stand light run, but Dark rum is quite nice.

Iskandar
06-19-2007, 10:08 PM
Yeah, light rum is like sugary piss.

Der Übermensch
06-19-2007, 10:14 PM
Ever tried Pussers? It's my fav. Myers is quite good too.

Mr. Ron
06-19-2007, 10:15 PM
I don't like vodka that much. I do enjoy screwdrivers though.

Iskandar
06-19-2007, 10:17 PM
I don't like vodka that much. I do enjoy screwdrivers though.They don't mix well in my experience. I'd rather have neat vodka.

lfantwister
06-19-2007, 10:22 PM
I don't like vodka that much. I do enjoy screwdrivers though.
its better with gin

PerpetualBurn
06-20-2007, 10:20 AM
This is all because you're a bunch of soft puffs that can't handle your ale. Fact.

Dr Hooch
06-20-2007, 10:27 AM
This is all because you're a bunch of soft puffs that can't handle your ale. Fact.

He's right you know guys

the only reason i ever drink rum or gin n tonic is because i can't handle my ale

PerpetualBurn
06-20-2007, 10:29 AM
Godspeed you.

siva_chair
06-20-2007, 10:38 AM
Who cares what it is called, as long as it is alcohol.

I like Guinness at room temperature myself. Also enjoy a plethora of other beers, too.

As for rum, nothing beats Meyer's Rum with a splash of Coke. Only time I will drink Coke over Pepsi.

Dr Hooch
06-20-2007, 10:40 AM
Who cares what it is called, as long as it is alcohol.

I like Guinness at room temperature myself. Also enjoy a plethora of other beers, too.

As for rum, nothing beats Meyer's Rum with a splash of Coke. Only time I will drink Coke over Pepsi.

Would literally vomit

PerpetualBurn
06-20-2007, 10:59 AM
Room temperature is how most stouts are traditionally served.

Knifeboy
06-20-2007, 11:16 AM
bee beer beer beer
but none of that disgusting british crap..
Danish, german, austrian, and dutch beer ftw

Mr. Ron
06-20-2007, 11:17 AM
bee beer beer beer
but none of that disgusting british crap..
Danish, german, austrian, and dutch beer ftw

Truth.

PerpetualBurn
06-20-2007, 11:27 AM
but none of that disgusting british crap..

What?

Dr Hooch
06-20-2007, 11:33 AM
Room temperature is how most stouts are traditionally served.

I'm not a big stout man, surprisingly enough

Knifeboy
06-20-2007, 11:33 AM
I have never tasted one single british beer that I liked

On the other hand, almost every single german beer I've had, have tasted great

PerpetualBurn
06-20-2007, 11:35 AM
Which English beers have you tried?

Knifeboy
06-20-2007, 11:37 AM
Way too many to mention.
Beer tasting is one of my hobbies ;)

Wich do you recommend?

PerpetualBurn
06-20-2007, 11:47 AM
I recommend staying clear of English lagers. Bitters are pretty much a non-entity in Germany and the surrounding area compared to England, so the lagers are obviously done much better out there.

I'd say the key is to actually get to England and have proper hand-pulled beer in a pub straight from the barrel. Drinking proper ales that way is much smoother and creamier and pretty much completely different from drinking anything from a can or a bottle.

Commercially, Tetley's and Stone's are alright on handpull but not much else. Really it's all about the smaller breweries that do the real ales.

Of stuff you might get hold of, try any IPA. They're usually much lighter but more fuller flavoured than most bitters. Also, if you ever see Timothy Taylor's Landlord on offer, in any form, buy it.

Reaganista
06-20-2007, 11:55 AM
I'm not a big stout man, surprisingly enough
i wasnt expecting you to be a big stout man tbh

Knifeboy
06-20-2007, 11:56 AM
That Timoythy Taylor's Landlord looks absolutely delicious.. I'll keep an eye out for that one

peeted
06-20-2007, 12:58 PM
Ooo timmy taylors is from keighley right near were i live. Timothy taylors Best bitter and golden best are well worth a try as well. Id also recomend trying some copper dragon, its fantastic. There's so many fantatstic british brewers though, whatever your taste in beer there will be something you will enjoy. Look for badger, youngs, wychwood, black sheep marsdons, holt greene king, sam smiths.... you can get most of them bottled You just have to know were to look for good british beer.

PerpetualBurn
06-20-2007, 01:17 PM
Bottled is nowhere near as good as on tap, that's the only problem. The bottled stuff is still really good. Badger's Golden Glory is a very nice one bottled. I tend to like the Badger brews I've had.

At my local, I have two standards: Black Sheep and Magnet. Both I recommend, though they aren't massively distinct, just the type of thing I'd happily drink constantly without getting bored.

My local's really good for real ales though. Magnet and Black Sheep permanent, and 3 guest ales that change weekly. Special stuff.

Dr Hooch
06-20-2007, 01:27 PM
http://www.wolfeden.org/~davidw/images/stout.jpg

peeted
06-20-2007, 01:29 PM
I like bottled beers almost as much as tap beers, especially proper bottle conditioned ales like Young's special London ale. Its better if its either conditioned for the bottle or its a lighter ale though, i think dark ales and bitters are far better on tap. I guess it just comes down to personal preference though.

However my local just does Timmy Taylor's, so to try new stuff i either need to get it bottled or get a train over to one of the neighboring towns.

Der Übermensch
06-20-2007, 07:05 PM
As for rum, nothing beats Meyer's Rum with a splash of Coke. Only time I will drink Coke over Pepsi.
Myers is good... its what I get in the States, but Pussers is better... just so damn hard to find :(

griftadan
06-20-2007, 07:13 PM
you guys must have money

admiral nelson ftw

oh and thanks for spurring a few more pages of alcohol talk

PerpetualBurn
06-20-2007, 08:01 PM
Price usually comes before quality on a night out on the razz. My beer taste is accumulated from time in pubs.

You can't beat a few snakebites for getting wankered on.

Mr. Ron
06-20-2007, 08:06 PM
Hmmm so apparently tanks have crossed into gaza.

siva_chair
06-20-2007, 08:13 PM
Would literally vomit

I have a lot of friends who said the same thing. Then they tried it, and said "Yummy."

Der Übermensch
06-20-2007, 08:52 PM
you guys must have money

admiral nelson ftw

oh and thanks for spurring a few more pages of alcohol talk

Pussers is 30$... if you can find it... But i's only 5 bucks if you get it in the Virgin Islands :)

Hababi
06-22-2007, 02:46 PM
If only I could settle on a major...

English (fiction writing): a two-year sinecure. I could possibly do two minors, history and religious studies. Or just one of the two. Would have a high GPA, in all likelyhood, and I plan on going on to grad school anyway, so the lack of a decent job after graduation isn't as big a concern. Program doesn't have that good of a rep in terms of quality.

English (journalism): also pretty easy. Would have two years work experience on the newspaper in addition to the degree itself. Program has a pretty good rep. Could probably get a job with just the undergrad degree, or go on to grad school. I'm less interested in being a journalist :\

History: Strong program, good reputation. Can likely get a good internship, possibly leading to a decent job afterward, along with grad school. More difficult, though, and given what my concentration would probably be (contemporary Jewish history), I'd have to learn Hebrew. Involves writing longer papers (>5 pages), which I have no experience doing.

Waltz Profit
06-22-2007, 02:52 PM
oh ffs steve just pick something already

but don't do english lol

lunchforthesky
06-22-2007, 02:53 PM
History: Strong program, good reputation. Can likely get a good internship, possibly leading to a decent job afterward, along with grad school. More difficult, though, and given what my concentration would probably be (contemporary Jewish history), I'd have to learn Hebrew. Involves writing longer papers (>5 pages), which I have no experience doing.

Wouldn't you rather have a challenge than just spouting pro-zionist sentiments for three years? I imagine such a course is the most biased in existence within history.

Hababi
06-22-2007, 02:54 PM
oh ffs steve just pick something already


I'm trying :\

Oh yeah there's also linguistics which is also very strong in terms of the faculty, interests me, but doesn't have internships and so I would absolutely have to do grad school for it.


but don't do english lol

Why not? :upset:

Hababi
06-22-2007, 02:58 PM
Wouldn't you rather have a challenge than just spouting pro-zionist sentiments for three years? I imagine such a course is the most biased in existence within history.

Two years, I only have two years to go on my undergrad degree. Then either a year for library science, two-three years for a master's in history, or two years for a master's in international business. Library science=easiest, history=most interesting, international business=toughest but potentially most financially rewarding :\

And Women's history, American worker's history etc. would all be way more biased ;)

My concentration plan would include taking:
History of the Holocaust
Modern Israel
Jews in the US
And another Jewish history course

The alternative would be to concentrate on western European history, by taking Ireland, Modern Britain, The West and the World, and Medieval History or Scotland or something else of the sort.

Waltz Profit
06-22-2007, 02:58 PM
because my school has the best writing program in the country and grads still complain about not having any sort of job prospects after graduating

Hababi
06-22-2007, 02:59 PM
because my school has the best writing program in the country and grads still complain about not having any sort of job prospects after graduating

What's your school? And yeah, a friend of mine is graduating this semester with his bachelor's in fiction writing and he has no clue what he's going to do for a living (probably keep working at Walmart). But if I'd do this, I'd either go on for the MFA or get the master's in library science, probably the latter.

Waltz Profit
06-22-2007, 03:01 PM
johns hopkins university

if i were u i'd prolly do international business

Hababi
06-22-2007, 03:03 PM
johns hopkins university

if i were u i'd prolly do international business

You're ranked 2nd best, on the grad level, for writing. Do you know undergrads or grad students?

Waltz Profit
06-22-2007, 03:04 PM
the rankings must have changed since last year or something idk

for writing, i only know undergrads

lunchforthesky
06-22-2007, 03:05 PM
Two years, I only have two years to go on my undergrad degree. Then either a year for library science, two-three years for a master's in history, or two years for a master's in international business. Library science=easiest, history=most interesting, international business=toughest but potentially most financially rewarding :\

And Women's history, American worker's history etc. would all be way more biased ;)

My concentration plan would include taking:
History of the Holocaust
Modern Israel
Jews in the US
And another Jewish history course

The alternative would be to concentrate on western European history, by taking Ireland, Modern Britain, The West and the World, and Medieval History or Scotland or something else of the sort.

I do Ancient and Modern History. Expertise being Russia under the Tsars. I find it pretty interesting.

Hababi
06-22-2007, 03:30 PM
the rankings must have changed since last year or something idk

for writing, i only know undergrads

Yeah, undergrad degree in writing gets you squat, basically. A graduate degree can get a professorship, especially if I can get published, but I probably wouldn't get into U of Iowa.

I do Ancient and Modern History. Expertise being Russia under the Tsars. I find it pretty interesting.

Ewww Russian history :\ I don't like Russia at all--unpleasant language, depressing literature, lousy weather. I would love to study early Asian history, particularly Japan and China, but Pitt isn't too good for offering classes in that area. Same with Latin America and African history. British Isles=:cool:

lunchforthesky
06-22-2007, 05:31 PM
Ewww Russian history :\ I don't like Russia at all--unpleasant language, depressing literature, lousy weather. I would love to study early Asian history, particularly Japan and China, but Pitt isn't too good for offering classes in that area. Same with Latin America and African history. British Isles=:cool:

I don't have any interest in British history cause obviously i've done it over and over through the schooling system. I like to study new things, going to be doing some African History next year.

pedro durruti
06-22-2007, 05:43 PM
History majors are weirdos

Hababi
06-22-2007, 05:47 PM
I don't have any interest in British history cause obviously i've done it over and over through the schooling system.


Yeah that's how I feel about American politics. Been there done that :\


I like to study new things, going to be doing some African History next year.

As long as you get a good instructor, it should be interesting. Of course, "African" history is like studying "Asian" history--there's so much there, so many subregions etc. that it's tough to have a survey course. I'm much more interested in the southern (Christian) half than the northern one.

pedro durruti
06-22-2007, 05:49 PM
Ha ha why?

lfantwister
06-22-2007, 05:52 PM
it's the weekend

Hababi
06-22-2007, 05:52 PM
Ha ha why?

Well, a number of reasons:
1) They're largely Christian :p
2) The weather is better than in the northern (desert) half
3) A number of countries are showing positive signs of moving forward. And they're actually safe to visit
4) The languages are better (even though Africa as a whole is an insane cacophony of virtually innumerable languages)

pedro durruti
06-22-2007, 05:55 PM
2) They've got the Meditterranean!
3) Wouldn't that be a good reason to study and understand the northern half?

lfantwister
06-22-2007, 05:56 PM
1) so about this learning about new cultures and beliefs thing

siva_chair
06-22-2007, 05:59 PM
the rankings must have changed since last year or something idk

for writing, i only know undergrads

Oh go write about being a hindu or something.

Hababi
06-22-2007, 06:00 PM
2) They've got the Meditterranean!

Well, the interior countries (IE CAR) can be unpleasant, but if you get a coastal country, you're in good shape. Ghana's probably the best southern African state; Namibia's pretty good too (besides the fact that their president is a Mugabe ally), and Angola is improving. Also, if Teodoro Obiang dies soon (one can only hope), Eq. New Guinea can become a very nice country--the resources are already there and the infrastructure is pretty solid.


3) Wouldn't that be a good reason to study and understand the northern half?

Screw the northern half :p

The northern half is a bunch of gawdawful desert wastelands. Chad, northern Sudan, Somalia etc. are basically hopeless.

PerpetualBurn
06-22-2007, 06:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTo_BwQW4jc

<3

TheDarkHorse
06-22-2007, 06:35 PM
3) Wouldn't that be a good reason to study and understand the northern half?

not if you've already studied the middle east:p


Screw the northern half :p

The northern half is a bunch of gawdawful desert wastelands. Chad, northern Sudan, Somalia etc. are basically hopeless.
I'd blame the government(or lack thereof) more than the characteristics of the region

Hababi
06-22-2007, 06:48 PM
I'd blame the government(or lack thereof) more than the characteristics of the region

Well there isn't just one factor.

Reaganista
06-22-2007, 10:19 PM
why the hell would you want a regionally-specific undergraduate history degree that makes no sense at all to me

Mr. Ron
06-22-2007, 10:22 PM
Well, a number of reasons:
1) They're largely Christian :p
2) The weather is better than in the northern (desert) half
3) A number of countries are showing positive signs of moving forward. And they're actually safe to visit
4) The languages are better (even though Africa as a whole is an insane cacophony of virtually innumerable languages)

Sorry that makes them automatically the worst place ever.

Waltz Profit
06-22-2007, 10:39 PM
Oh go write about being a hindu or something.

lol go make some music oh wait you aren't a musician i forgot

Reaganista
06-22-2007, 11:05 PM
im not a musician either tbh

Waltz Profit
06-22-2007, 11:13 PM
we know

Reaganista
06-22-2007, 11:41 PM
funny that my musical opinions are the only correct ones then huh

The Cookie Monster
06-22-2007, 11:45 PM
hello fellows i am new around here and would certainly like to introduct myself

please forgave my english i am from Ukraine

Iscariot
06-23-2007, 03:38 AM
i know some of you guys don't like me but if someone could do me a favor and put this in the problems thread in the pit i would be very grateful:

this is jared i'm wondering why all of my accounts are banned i was not able to read a reply to any of my posts earlier because i was not at home so i don't even know for sure why i was banned in the first place

i've heard that i was hijacked and i can assure you that it was not because my password was too easy someone apparently hijacked my cookies in one way or another and as far as i know i didn't do anything to deserve it

i would like it very much if my iscariot account could be unbanned and i could have the password reset so i could further change it myself in hopes that something won't happen again

i can be reached on messenger at xRoisin Dubhx on aim or renaissance_086@hotmail.com on msn

hopefully no harm was done with my account please contact me so i can get this worked out

-jared

thanks to anyone who helps

Dave de Sylvia
06-23-2007, 03:49 AM
Chad got into three of your accounts.

Iscariot
06-23-2007, 03:50 AM
yeah vince just responded to my post in pp

i'm not upset or anything i was just crazy confused about why all of my backups were banned too

+ i've been out drinking so my ability to become confused is mad heightened

(*The Noonward Race*)
06-23-2007, 03:54 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HCkYfYa8ePI

lol i dunno if this is politically relevant, but


yall are some dumbbb hicks

Iscariot
06-23-2007, 03:57 AM
i wonder how many dozens of people they interviewed just to get five dumb people because that's definitely not the majority representation

Iscariot
06-23-2007, 04:00 AM
great chad got my myspace too

(*The Noonward Race*)
06-23-2007, 04:17 AM
i wonder how many dozens of people they interviewed just to get five dumb people because that's definitely not the majority representation
prolly one less than half a dozen

totah
06-23-2007, 06:52 AM
Haha, it turns out that making judgements of someone's character based on circumstances that are out of that person's control is flawed! Weird huh?

Hababi
06-23-2007, 08:24 AM
why the hell would you want a regionally-specific undergraduate history degree that makes no sense at all to me

With Pitt, you choose a concentration for your undergrad degree. Either thematic, regional or chronological. I suppose they figure that it gives you a jump start if you're considering grad school (M.A. in Contemporary Jewish History).

Sorry that makes them automatically the worst place ever.

Non-Christian places are usually terrible places to live. Christian places, on the other hand, will thrive.

Mr. Ron
06-23-2007, 08:32 AM
With Pitt, you choose a concentration for your undergrad degree. Either thematic, regional or chronological. I suppose they figure that it gives you a jump start if you're considering grad school (M.A. in Contemporary Jewish History).



Non-Christian places are usually terrible places to live. Christian places, on the other hand, will thrive.

It was a joke you pillock.

Hababi
06-23-2007, 08:33 AM
It was a joke you pillock.

But Christian pwnage of non Christian places isn't :cool: :D

The Cookie Monster
06-23-2007, 08:58 AM
in my hometown we can beat jews and christans alike

Waltz Profit
06-23-2007, 08:59 AM
Non-Christian places are usually terrible places to live. Christian places, on the other hand, will thrive.

except the religion isn't unrelated to quality of life

Hababi
06-23-2007, 09:01 AM
except the religion isn't unrelated to quality of life

umm...

Waltz Profit
06-23-2007, 09:01 AM
i think you need to do more research :\

Hababi
06-23-2007, 09:02 AM
What you said seems to agree with me, so...

Waltz Profit
06-23-2007, 09:02 AM
wait if you're agreeing with me then why would you go and say something as retarded as that

Hababi
06-23-2007, 09:04 AM
No I think you're agreeing with me. :amaze:

Waltz Profit
06-23-2007, 09:06 AM
no sorry steve i rarely agree with people as batshit retarded as you

Iskandar
06-23-2007, 10:24 AM
Non-Christian places are usually terrible places to live. Christian places, on the other hand, will thrive.I'm pretty sure that has a whole heck of lot more to do with the dominance of the Christian world than with the inherent merits of the religion.

In a lot of the West, Christianity is dying out, and nobody would say that North Korea is a better place to live than Spain, France or Hungary.

(*The Noonward Race*)
06-23-2007, 11:22 AM
Non-Christian places are usually terrible places to live. Christian places, on the other hand, will thrive.see your wording is so ambiguous you end up with statements that barely mean anything, like these words, non christian/chirstian places, terrible, thrive, usually

totah
06-23-2007, 11:40 AM
Umm, of course white men will thrive in a region that's run by a white-male supremacist church/government. Why do you think black and brown people do so well in the West? Or women?

siva_chair
06-23-2007, 01:05 PM
lol go make some music oh wait you aren't a musician i forgot

I'm not? Do explain please brown man.

Waltz Profit
06-23-2007, 01:06 PM
do you play and record any instruments or compose or produce

siva_chair
06-23-2007, 01:08 PM
do you play and record any instruments or compose or produce

Yes.

Waltz Profit
06-23-2007, 01:09 PM
lol

your posts certainly don't reflect that! such a shame

what do you play or do

griftadan
06-23-2007, 01:13 PM
the smugness is actually palpable

Waltz Profit
06-23-2007, 01:16 PM
lol

siva_chair
06-23-2007, 01:17 PM
lol

your posts certainly don't reflect that! such a shame

what do you play or do

I didn't know you could tell that sort of a bit about a person based on his (not often very serious) posts.

Like I said before, I rarely discuss music on here, as it often turns into a silly pissing contest like we had the other day. Which was pretty silly, but I was pretty bored.

I play guitar, piano, and I used to play the tuba in band, but I don't think I could do that anymore so that doesn't count. Trying to pick up the drums, but just haven't had much of an opportunity to yet. I also record stuff, obviously.

Reaganista
06-23-2007, 01:24 PM
With Pitt, you choose a concentration for your undergrad degree. Either thematic, regional or chronological. I suppose they figure that it gives you a jump start if you're considering grad school (M.A. in Contemporary Jewish History).
well i would've picked thematic then i guess but i still don't think any of those programs are broad enough tbh

Hababi
06-23-2007, 01:44 PM
I'm pretty sure that has a whole heck of lot more to do with the dominance of the Christian world than with the inherent merits of the religion.

Ah but look at Africa--the countries that are improving are, for the most part, primarily Christian, and the struggling ones are mostly Muslim.


In a lot of the West, Christianity is dying out, and nobody would say that North Korea is a better place to live than Spain, France or Hungary.

Yeah but France and Spain are going down the crapper anyway. Poland will pwn them in 10 years.


well i would've picked thematic then i guess but i still don't think any of those programs are broad enough tbh

Well, in addition to the concentration (which can be rather vague), you have to take an American history survey course, European history survey course, a pre-1500 course, and a non western survey course. And an elective. I could do something more broad, like "Western European history", but I probably won't.

Iskandar
06-23-2007, 01:58 PM
Ah but look at Africa--the countries that are improving are, for the most part, primarily Christian, and the struggling ones are mostly Muslim.Africa has a lot of countries with mixed religious demographics - 40% Muslim, 50% Christian, etc. But the history of Africa, particularly with colonialism, is so complex that I don't think you can pinpoint one single reason why X country is better off than Y country.

Do you really think there is some inherent quality in Christianity that makes Christian nations superior to others? What on earth could it be? It's not logical.



Yeah but France and Spain are going down the crapper anyway. Poland will pwn them in 10 years.Conservatives have been saying that liberalism will lead to the downfall of civilization for centuries. So far it hasn't happened.

totah
06-23-2007, 02:20 PM
Ah but look at Africa--the countries that are improving are, for the most part, primarily Christian, and the struggling ones are mostly Muslim.

That's because of sanctions from Christian countries. Surely you don't expect for a morally-Christian state to give backing to a state who's culture and morality is grounded in a heaps different religion? It happens, but very little, and only in cases where it gains the Christian state a lot of money (such as backing Saudi Arabia and Hussein). For cases such as Africa, where due to population divisions and other population/culture-related problems, it's pretty expected for the EU and US to only give aid and support to culture friendly (and therefore more easily manipulated) states, which is what they did after G8 MakePovertyHistory.

Hababi
06-23-2007, 02:20 PM
Africa has a lot of countries with mixed religious demographics - 40% Muslim, 50% Christian, etc. But the history of Africa, particularly with colonialism, is so complex that I don't think you can pinpoint one single reason why X country is better off than Y country.

Oh I know, I just like to oversimplify things :p But the religion does play a role in it. Check where it's majority Christian, particularly where Islam is under 25%.


Do you really think there is some inherent quality in Christianity that makes Christian nations superior to others? What on earth could it be?

It's the correct religion, and inspires greater comradere (sic) amongst people. Islam tends to breed division. Also I could get into protestant work ethic, etc. There are lots of reasons why Christianity > other religions, and nations that are Christian > non Christian nations.


Conservatives have been saying that liberalism will lead to the downfall of civilization for centuries. So far it hasn't happened.

It's like evolution--it's a slow, gradual process. It's happening, though.

Hababi
06-23-2007, 02:23 PM
That's because of sanctions from Christian countries. Surely you don't expect for a morally-Christian state to give backing to a state who's culture and morality is grounded in a heaps different religion? It happens, but very little, and only in cases where it gains the Christian state a lot of money (such as backing Saudi Arabia and Hussein). For cases such as Africa, where due to population divisions and other population/culture-related problems, it's pretty expected for the EU and US to only give aid and support to culture friendly (and therefore more easily manipulated) states, which is what they did after G8 MakePovertyHistory.

There are two different arguments there--one of religion, one of friendliness. Yes, Christian nations tend to be friendlier to the US (and, in general, democracy and freedom), and thus we're more inclined to support them. But non Christian ones get plenty of aid, too, and should be getting more aid from the oil-rich governments of the middle east.

Iskandar
06-23-2007, 02:26 PM
Oh I know, I just like to oversimplify things :p But the religion does play a role in it. Check where it's majority Christian, particularly where Islam is under 25%.How does religion play a role? The outcome does not determine what the causes are.
It's the correct religion, and inspires greater comradere (sic) amongst people. Islam tends to breed division. Also I could get into protestant work ethic, etc. There are lots of reasons why Christianity > other religions, and nations that are Christian > non Christian nations."The correct religion." You know four billion people don't think that, right?

Islam is far more community-oriented than Christianity. From communal prayers to charity to festivals, it's a communitarian religion. Christianity is divided in countless sects which differ drastically in belief and practice.