PNWI Community Thread version 3.0 (KEEP REFRIGERATED AT ALL TIMES)

[thedeadwalk!]

The physical condition those soldiers must have been in was simply stunning
I don't know if this is true but I've always been told the story of a Spartan child who was hungry for food, put a cat, or some other small animal, into his robe and had it gut him to death without crying out.

These people were conditioned to be stone-hearted and hard people. As I recall, it helped stand up against the Athenians at one point who overstepping their ground, but really, it seems too much for me. Didn't they start at age 7, training them?

[Mr. Ron]

I don't know if this is true but I've always been told the story of a Spartan child who was hungry for food, put a cat, or some other small animal, into his robe and had it gut him to death without crying out.

These people were conditioned to be stone-hearted and hard people. As I recall, it helped stand up against the Athenians at one point who overstepping their ground, but really, it seems too much for me. Didn't they start at age 7, training them?

Yup

[Hababi]

I don't know if this is true but I've always been told the story of a Spartan child who was hungry for food, put a cat, or some other small animal, into his robe and had it gut him to death without crying out.

These people were conditioned to be stone-hearted and hard people. As I recall, it helped stand up against the Athenians at one point who overstepping their ground, but really, it seems too much for me. Didn't they start at age 7, training them?

Yup, and the kids would have competitions to see who could stand the most physical abuse. For all the respect and admiration we give their culture, it was actually brutal, with no concern for culture whatsoever.

[Der Übermensch]

Spartans had concern culture... it was just culture of war that got all the attention... which we like to dismiss in favor of the philosophy and artistry we find in other city states like athens.

[Hababi]

Spartans had concern culture... it was just culture of war that got all the attention... which we like to dismiss in favor of the philosophy and artistry we find in other city states like athens.

And in the end, the Athenian state had a much more significant, broader, and wider spread impact on history.

[Mr. Ron]

Man I love this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ

[Der Übermensch]

Well, the Macedonians kicked both their asses...

[gregulus]

Man I love this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ

Why?

[Mr. Ron]

Why?

Bravery.

[gregulus]

Has anyone here heard of Brother Micah?

He goes to college campuses and condemns all sinners to hell, so basically, he condemns everyone but himself because he claims he hasn't sinned in 8 years. Premarital kissing, alcohol, cigarettes, girls showing the knees, homosexuals, you name it. It's a laugh. My friends and U of A told me about him.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=brother+micah&search=Search

[Petros]

Ahahah. He is talking about seducing a virgin you should put on Barry Manilow. The Gangsta Rap gets the girls to gyrate and gets them all hot! Ahahaha.

[ringworm]

Didn't they start at age 7, training them?

and they had to secretly go out at "manhood" and kill an unsuspecting slave, like an animal, to prove they were ready for battle, ughhh

by strangulation to boot

[Dr Hooch]

There's something wrong with you dude.

Aww but man


the man got nothing on me

when he tries to ban me
for civil Dis-O-B
I got nothing to lose
but a postcount and a name
that isn't the same
as the last 3 i've had
and if he gets mad i'm all
what
you think i'm gonna roll?
for posting in a a spam thread
and feeding the troll
VF
who gots the hots for younger girls
(he likes their voices and their pretty little curls)
so jew-man is sayin'
that there's somethin' wrong with me
but when i'm postin' on the internets
d00d
i'm free














This post got out of hand VERY quickly.

[lunchforthesky]

I bought F# A# by Godspeed You today cause i felt bad for it being my favourite album but not actually paying the band for it.

First time i've bought a CD in maybe a year.

[Mr. Ron]

I bought F# A# by Godspeed You today cause i felt bad for it being my favourite album but not actually paying the band for it.

First time i've bought a CD in maybe a year.

Good find.

[Dr Hooch]

Good album, but definately not my favourite by them.

They're all worth owning tbh, even yanqui uxo.

F#A# is a good way to get into them.

[lunchforthesky]

Lift Your Skinny Fists is most peoples favourite but i prefer F# A# just for the Dead Flag Blues alone although the other two tracks are almost equally excellent.

[Dr Hooch]

Lift Your Skinny Fists is most peoples favourite but i prefer F# A# just for the Dead Flag Blues alone although the other two tracks are almost equally excellent.

never understood peoples <3 with that song; it's easily my least favourite on that album.

LYSF is the last thing i want to hear before i die, like srs

[lunchforthesky]

:mad:

I <3 that song.

Make them play it at your funeral and it will bore everyone s'hitless.

[coheneran]

Bravery.

"Define a coward.
One who refuses to fight a lion.
Define a brave man.
One who does not know what a lion is.
But everyone knows what a lion is. Define a fool.
Every man is a fool, sir.
Then there is no such thing as wisdom, for there is no such thing as wisdom without foolishness.
I thought everything was what it was, sir."

Very badly paraphrased, too.

Aww but man


the man got nothing on me

when he tries to ban me
for civil Dis-O-B
I got nothing to lose
but a postcount and a name
that isn't the same
as the last 3 i've had
and if he gets mad i'm all
what
you think i'm gonna roll?
for posting in a a spam thread
and feeding the troll
VF
who gots the hots for younger girls
(he likes their voices and their pretty little curls)
so jew-man is sayin'
that there's somethin' wrong with me
but when i'm postin' on the internets
d00d
i'm free














This post got out of hand VERY quickly.

I love you man.

[badtaste]

I strongly disagree with those saying that "white influence has screwed the aborigines." It's a lie made by aboriginal activists that are either ignorant to reality and/or nutjobs. There is no end to infrastructure and support services availible to aboriginals wanting to "break the cycle". The trouble is the younger generation grow up with little 'white' influence and do not see what life can be like.

I sorta had in mind the early stages of when the British first invaded the country. Such as spreading disease, trading alcohol/food for land, crap like that. Then throughout the last century, I don't think the Aborigines got too much support. Only recently, have their problems been recognised. Sure, probably the majority of Aborigines aren't taking advantage of that, but as I mentioned before, I'm thinking it's difficult to escape that cycle of having uneducated parents. I'm sure the younger generations would have great lives, if they received that support from their parents, elders, family, etc...


Major point:
The 'stolen generation' went through physical and emotional trauma, but look at where these people stand today. Most of them hold jobs, have functional families and have avoided many of the problems faced by those who were raised by aboriginals during the same time. The stolen generations children are growing up educated, in stable homes and have prospects of a good future. Can the same be said for those little girls who are being raised in the house I talked about above?

Ofcourse, not all the stolen generation grew up to a decent life, but ultimately those who were "stolen" had a better quality of life than those who weren't. Even more importantly and markedly, the children of those who were stolen have a much greater future the the children of those who weren't.

Hmm, yeah fair enough. Still, it's not very nice having being displaced from your family and your people. Probably not applicable to all cases, but wouldn't 'the stolen generation' also have been victim of that program to make the Aborigine children more 'white'?

[Charlie Daniels]

Has anyone here heard of Brother Micah?

He goes to college campuses and condemns all sinners to hell, so basically, he condemns everyone but himself because he claims he hasn't sinned in 8 years. Premarital kissing, alcohol, cigarettes, girls showing the knees, homosexuals, you name it. It's a laugh. My friends and U of A told me about him.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=brother+micah&search=Search

I watched some of his videos and must say i agree with quite abit of what he says :-/

[Charlie Daniels]

I sorta had in mind the early stages of when the British first invaded the country. Such as spreading disease, trading alcohol/food for land, crap like that. Then throughout the last century, I don't think the Aborigines got too much support. Only recently, have their problems been recognised. Sure, probably the majority of Aborigines aren't taking advantage of that, but as I mentioned before, I'm thinking it's difficult to escape that cycle of having uneducated parents. I'm sure the younger generations would have great lives, if they received that support from their parents, elders, family, etc...



Hmm, yeah fair enough. Still, it's not very nice having being displaced from your family and your people. Probably not applicable to all cases, but wouldn't 'the stolen generation' also have been victim of that program to make the Aborigine children more 'white'?
Yup, it's a complex issue allright.

[gregulus]

I watched some of his videos and must say i agree with quite abit of what he says :-/

We'll just leave it at that and call it a night.


:wave:

[PerpetualBurn]

never understood peoples <3 with that song; it's easily my least favourite on that album.

LYSF is the last thing i want to hear before i die, like srs

Whichever one has Static on is the best by far. The speech in that raises the hair on the back of my neck. Seriously.

[Dr Hooch]

Whichever one has Static on is the best by far. The speech in that raises the hair on the back of my neck. Seriously.

the "when you reach out to the most high god there will be nothing left of you, except the god man, the god woman, the heavenly man, tge heavenly woman, the heavenly child..." one?

[PerpetualBurn]

That one. It's intense.

[Dr Hooch]

It's f'ucking incredible. You're right; it gives you shivers up the spine every ****ing time.

[Mr. Ron]

"Define a coward.
One who refuses to fight a lion.
Define a brave man.
One who does not know what a lion is.
But everyone knows what a lion is. Define a fool.
Every man is a fool, sir.
Then there is no such thing as wisdom, for there is no such thing as wisdom without foolishness.
I thought everything was what it was, sir."

Very badly paraphrased, too.



I love you man.
Not sure what you're getting at here, I have an idea but can you explain this?

[spitfirejunky]

What about a man who knows what a lion is but fights it anyway?

[coheneran]

Not sure what you're getting at here, I have an idea but can you explain this?

Mostly it was because when you said "Bravery" it reminded me of that passage. That's Bukowski by the way, can't remember the book's name.

What about a man who knows what a lion is but fights it anyway?

I think the joke is that he creates a paradox where every man is a fool, but by saying that only ignorant people would fight a lion, cowards aren't actually frightened to put their lives on the line, they just know which battles to pick, ie. they are smart, yet everyone is a fool. It's all a bit muddled up in my brain.

Also, he let's us assume that every "brave man" is ignorant, which would then, by the logic of dichotomy, lead us to think that every "coward" is smart. But then he contradicts that by saying, "I thought everything was what it was." He's a great writer.

[Knifeboy]

http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs15/f/2007/067/c/c/Randy_and_Nigel___02_by_justflyakite.jpg

[Mr. Ron]

Ugh I hate/love going to Borders. I had three books in my hand for 2 hours going over them and figuring out which one I wanted and ended up leaving with nothing because I'm too indecisive about books. I'm weird. :[

[coheneran]

It's really easy to steal from most Waterstones around here.

Not that I shoplift.

[Mr. Ron]

Funny, I was actually browsing Steal this book when I was there. ha.

[coheneran]

Lol. If I ever stole something, Steal This Book or Steal This Album would not be on my list. I bet they watch them like hawks.

[PerpetualBurn]

Also, he let's us assume that every "brave man" is ignorant, which would then, by the logic of dichotomy, lead us to think that every "coward" is smart.

Can we play spot the fallacy?

[coheneran]

Can we play spot the fallacy?

Smart, knowledgeable, whatever nigga.

The point is that he only builds it down to contradict it with one sentence afterwards.

Stay out of this Andy, this is literature, not philosophy. It doesn't have to make sense as long as it's beautiful.

[Mr. Ron]

idk I just thought the Chinese guy was brave.

[coheneran]

No, he was a foolish coward. I just explained.:p

[PerpetualBurn]

Stay out of this Andy, this is literature, not philosophy. It doesn't have to make sense as long as it's beautiful.

I don't understand how you've separated philosophy and literature and then accused philosophy of not being beautiful.

[coheneran]

Philosophy is essentially beautiful on a wholly different level to literature, though some of it is written incredibly beautifully (Lao Tzu sticks in my mind).

I'm too tired to try to explain the difference I see in the essential beauty of the two, maybe tommorow. It lies in intent, I guess you can build on that.

[PerpetualBurn]

Usually, the only difference is the way the point is expressed. Good literature is usually packed full of philosophical thought.

[coheneran]

But isn't the intent of literature beauty and self-interpretation, while philosophy's intent is to convey thought and ideas?

[Mr. Ron]

No, he was a foolish coward. I just explained.:p

I don't see that. I see symbolism. I see one man stopping a column of tanks, I see an idea being thrown in the face of totalitarianism, I see one man doing what everyone in that crowed should have done.

[PerpetualBurn]

Not necessarily.

A hell of a lot of novels and the likes are written with the intent of expressing a point. And a lot of philosophers express their thoughts in similarly creative and beautiful ways.

[coheneran]

Not necessarily.

A hell of a lot of novels and the likes are written with the intent of expressing a point. And a lot of philosophers express their thoughts in similarly creative and beautiful ways.

Well yes. Literature expresses a point with the intention that the reader interprets it however she likes, whereas philosophy (being more scientific, I guess) seeks to convey an idea clearly and precisely, right? That's how I'm differing the two right now. In that sense, Lao Tzu is literature, not philosophy.

[PerpetualBurn]

I think it's wrong to suggest that so many authors didn't or don't care about how their message is interpreted.

[italic zero]

literature is populist philosophy

[Mr. Ron]

I was going to buy zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance today but I wasn't sure if it was worth my money or not. Anyone read it?

[coheneran]

I think it's wrong to suggest that so many authors didn't or don't care about how their message is interpreted.

Oh, I didn't mean to suggest that they don't care. I'm sure J.D. Salinger was quite pissed when he heard about why that guy killed John Lennon, but literature dealing with certain themes isn't passing on a particular point, or particular set of points. It's an exploration of those themes between the writer and the reader.

literature is populist philosophy

That's a good way of putting it, but it's true as often as it's not.

I was going to buy zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance today but I wasn't sure if it was worth my money or not. Anyone read it?

I've heard it's good, but never read it.

[PerpetualBurn]

I think there's a lot of what could be called literature under your terms that has a direct point.

How is something like a Platonic dialogue (say The Euthyphro) in which it is partly fictional, likely dramaticised, very script-like and highly amusing (at least I find it humorous in its bravado) not going to be classed as literature? Or, likely more acceptable something like Sartre's short story The Wall? It iswritten as a story, it's dramatic, tense, descriptive, but Sartre's discussions are certainly explicitly stated elsewhere so it is evident he wishes to illustrate a very definite point through the tale.

[coheneran]

Well yes, there are combinations of the two, there always are. I'm not trying to classify everything under one category or another, but to define the category itself.

[PerpetualBurn]

But that takes us back to the initial problem


Stay out of this Andy, this is literature, not philosophy. It doesn't have to make sense as long as it's beautiful.

The distinction you made between literature and philosophy is not bold enough to make my complaint invalid.

[coheneran]

That was early-day theory though, it's progressed beyond that during the discussion, and it's a lot clearer after we discussed it. That's what's great about discussion.

Philosophy passes on a distinct and precise way of thinking and/or a set of points/principles, and literature invites the reader to explore X and take from it what she will. That's not to say that there can't be a combination of the two, there're lots, but the two categories are individually distinctive, wouldn't you say?

[PerpetualBurn]

Not really.

[Dr Hooch]

I was going to buy zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance today but I wasn't sure if it was worth my money or not. Anyone read it?

If you're prepared to read it very slowly/read some of the pages twice, then you can get a lot out of it. However, it is moderately tough going, i was 15 or so when i read it and frankly i wish i hadn't bothered until about now or so...

[Hababi]

Has anyone else ever seen Hugo Chavez speak, beyond soundbytes? C-Span 2 is carrying a speech of his; his delivery reminds me a lot of Hitler. Hey, they shared a common hatred of Jews...

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

zero do you actively try to make yourself look stupid?

[Mr. Ron]

Has anyone else ever seen Hugo Chavez speak, beyond soundbytes? C-Span 2 is carrying a speech of his; his delivery reminds me a lot of Hitler. Hey, they shared a common hatred of Jews...

YEAH THEY'RE BOTH GERMANS 2~!1

[coheneran]

Hahaha, I still can't believe Zero thinks Chavez is anti-Semetic. Hey, remember when he compared Allende to Hitler?

[Dr Hooch]

Anyone whose primary goal in life is not "israel controlling the east" is blatantly anti-semetic. you should all know that by now. ;)

[Mr. Ron]

Can anyone suggest me some *entertaining* books on philosophy?

[Der Übermensch]

Nietzsche - The Antichrist.
Sarte - No Exit and Three Other Plays


Sophies World... maybe... thats kind of a hit or miss.

[Mr. Ron]

I had the antichrist in my hand the other day at borders but, for some reason, I decided not to get it. I'm very indecisive about buying books. :/


I'll buy it though it isnt expensive.

[Dr Hooch]

All about the library, dude

[coheneran]

Pooh and the Philosophers was entertaining for about five minutes, when the novelty wore off and I realised that, yes, I am reading about how 5000 years ago some Greeks thought the world was cylindrical and that yes, this is boring, so I closed the book.

[Mr. Ron]

All about the library, dude

I keep forgetting about those. :(

[PerpetualBurn]

Pooh and the Philosophers was entertaining for about five minutes, when the novelty wore off and I realised that, yes, I am reading about how 5000 years ago some Greeks thought the world was cylindrical and that yes, this is boring, so I closed the book.

There are some times when I really wish you wouldn't post.

This is one of them.

[coheneran]

Hahaha, that post was partly to tease you.

No rly filo-sofa should be left to the expertz:

"Fair is foul, and foul is fair."

"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold"

"I wander through each chartered street
Near where the chartered Thames does flow
...
In every cry of every man,
In every Infant's cry of fear,
In every voice, in every ban,
The mind-forged manacles I hear"

"From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be,
Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with the do go"

Not to mention Pygmalion and Hard Times; "Facts facts facts! No room for fanciful thoughts" etc.

[PerpetualBurn]

"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold"


I love that poem.

[coheneran]

Yeah. I analysed the crap out of it. I love how he ridicules the idea of Jesus's 2nd Coming.

[Dr Hooch]

I keep forgetting about those. :(

I can't afford to forget about them, and mine is like a 10 minute walk away, so /win i guess

[coheneran]

The problem with libraries is that I always seem to owe them fivers.

[Dr Hooch]

The problem with libraries is that I always seem to owe them fivers.

The anarchist library didn't really take off, i'm afraid.

[coheneran]

They have those around.

It's also possible to order lots of radical publications through a local library and try to radicalise your locals.

[lfantwister]

the anarchist library in LA is a nightclub. can't get any nietzche there...


although you can get "the wall"

[PerpetualBurn]

Great story, song, and pun rolled into one.

Best post of the day by far.

Edit: I'm not allowed to give it rep even though I never give rep, but apparently you were the last person. 5 bottles of Lancaster Bomber puts me in the rep spirit apparently.

[coheneran]

Where's the pun?

[PerpetualBurn]

Reference to Sartre and also the Pink Floyd song. I think...I hope.

[coheneran]

Oh, Ali's not as bright as you. It was an accident.

In your face Ali.:p

[Hababi]

Hahaha, I still can't believe Zero thinks Chavez is anti-Semetic. Hey, remember when he compared Allende to Hitler?

Errm yeah it wasn't Chavez who attacked Jews as "'some minorities, the descendants of the people who crucified Christ, [who] seized the riches of the world'."

[Mr. Ron]

You know, Hitler should have finished his job.




















































































*bait*

[coheneran]

This message is hidden because Serenity is on your ignore list.

Ya'll have no idea how wonderful it is to see this message. It feels as good as having my Palestinian Jihadist boyfriend come in my rectum while we watch Noam Chomsky read out loud from the Communist Manifesto.

EDIT: Lol Zero doesn't like me having sex with brown men so he negrepped me for this post.

[lfantwister]

Great story, song, and pun rolled into one.

Best post of the day by far.

Edit: I'm not allowed to give it rep even though I never give rep, but apparently you were the last person. 5 bottles of Lancaster Bomber puts me in the rep spirit apparently.

hurrah!!

[Dr Hooch]

Errm yeah it wasn't Chavez who attacked Jews as "'some minorities, the descendants of the people who crucified Christ, [who] seized the riches of the world'."

You've said things 100x worse about the palestinians.

[coheneran]

The Romans crucified Christ...Didn't they?

Surely he's talking about Western rich and powerful minority? I mean, the Romans were pretty much the first "civilised" empire in Europe, weren't they? And after them, almost every European empire was based on their systems or practices, in one way or another. He's talking generally about the powerful minority as opposed to the enslaved majority, he's not talking about Jews.

Anyway, where did the cunt say that?

[Hababi]

The Romans crucified Christ...Didn't they?


The line "they crucified Christ" is textbook antiSemitism. He's referring to Jews, spreading the belief (straight out of Hitler's playbook) that Jews control all the worlds wealth.

[coheneran]

This message is hidden because Serenity is on your ignore list.

Oops, my bad.:p

Lol, you'd think I'd get tired of that, wouldn't you? I probably would, if you weren't a Zionazi.

[Smokey D]

The Romans crucified Christ...Didn't they?

Yes, but it is a theme in European anti-Semitism to blame the Jews. This is partly because the Bible tells us that members of the Sanhedrin approached Pilate and asked them to kill Jesus because they could not justify an execution under their laws and partly because the Church inherited much of its structure and philosophy from the Romans and it was much easier to blame another group than reconcile its past.

Surely he's talking about Western rich and powerful minority? I mean, the Romans were pretty much the first "civilised" empire in Europe, weren't they? And after them, almost every European empire was based on their systems or practices, in one way or another. He's talking generally about the powerful minority as opposed to the enslaved majority, he's not talking about Jews.

That's not a very accurate description of imperial history.

[coheneran]

Meh, it's all good as long as you blame the ruling class.:p

Chavez is a ruler though, and a pretty authoritarian one when it comes to repressing protests, so I don't approve of him. I hate him like I hate Bush.

[Der Übermensch]

The Romans crucified Christ...Didn't they?


At the insistence of the Jews (or more realistically, a few Rabbi's who incited the crowd). Remember that they were given a choice of freeing Jesus or Barabbas (who was also named Jesus actually), and chose tha latter. Pilate then symbolically wiped his hands of the affair (because he didn't want to execute Jesus) and said it was their buisness.

Some people use this to blame the Jews for Christs death. This comes from one of the gospols that says something like "Let his blood be upon us and our descendents..." It really just shows that a few people can get what they want if they can work a crowd...

[coheneran]

Yeah, because public pressure from occupied peoples always got imperial powers on their heels.:rolleyes:

Roman cross, roman execution.

[Mr. Ron]

Yeah, because public pressure from occupied peoples always got imperial powers on their heels.:rolleyes:

Roman cross, roman execution.

No, actually ponchus pilot was under great local pressure from jews, and the releasing of barabas and the death of a blasphemer such as Jesus would calm things down a bit.

[coheneran]

I forgot why we're discussing this, so I'll stop arguing.

[Mr. Ron]

So how was everyone's day?

[coheneran]

Long and good.

[lfantwister]

thats what she said!

[coheneran]

Oh no he di'nt.

[lfantwister]

who's the he?

[PerpetualBurn]

Awkward.

[coheneran]

We switched genitals during sex once.

[ashman]

They've put Adam Smith on the new 20 Pound notes...

It also looks like toy money :(

[coheneran]

You're KIDDING.

[ashman]

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/current/new_20.htm

[coheneran]

Laaaame.

This woman is far prettier, they should have put her on it: http://www.dancedancerevolutionary.org/images/emma_portrait.gif

[lfantwister]

We switched genitals during sex once

wait sorry was i informed of this

[pedro durruti]

I just saw a McCain ad on here

[Kaleid]

They've put Adam Smith on the new 20 Pound notes...

It also looks like toy money :(

It looks like a dodgy Euro.
It doesn't have 'sterling' on it either

[Mr. Ron]

Laaaame.

This woman is far prettier, they should have put her on it: http://www.dancedancerevolutionary.org/images/emma_portrait.gif

LOLOOLOL

[badtaste]

Mr. Ron, why do you have Adolf 'Alfie' Hitler as your userpic?

[ashman]

It looks like a dodgy Euro.
It doesn't have 'sterling' on it either

Yeah, that what I was thinking.

[Mr. Ron]

Mr. Ron, why do you have Adolf 'Alfie' Hitler as your userpic?

It was a joke for the communist party thread in the pit.

[mish_a7x]

joke?


:'(

[Mr. Ron]

.......


*runs*

[pedro durruti]

Happy St. Patrick's Day to all the potato ******s, drunks, and all-around good guys and girls.

[coheneran]

Mr. Ron, why do you have Adolf 'Alfie' Hitler as your userpic?

That's the Red Baron. Ugh, don't you know anything?

Ronnie boy, you played that Red Baron computer game? It's good.

[badtaste]

joke?


:'(

yes indeed.

That's the Red Baron. Ugh, don't you know anything?

Ronnie boy, you played that Red Baron computer game? It's good.

Dear Coheneran, Mr. Ron had zee Hitler avatar for a while. So yes, I do know Anything (he lives down the street). YOU JUST GOT SERVED.

[coheneran]

Lol Ozzies got their knickers in a twist. Beaten up any brown immigrants lately?

[Iskandar]

They've put Adam Smith on the new 20 Pound notes...

It also looks like toy money :(
Unbelievably lame. I've always thought money should be plain and utilitarian in design.

[badtaste]

Lol Ozzies got their knickers in a twist. Beaten up any brown immigrants lately?

I have no idea what you're writing about. You still got served though.

[Smokey D]

Unbelievably lame. I've always thought money should be plain and utilitarian in design.

Why is Adam Smith less utilitarian than the Queen?

[Mr. Ron]

That's the Red Baron. Ugh, don't you know anything?

Ronnie boy, you played that Red Baron computer game? It's good.

Nah I had Hitler in my avatar last night for a brief period of time as a joke to post in the communist party thread in the pit, I changed it back to Manfred after.


No I haven't.

[PerpetualBurn]

I'm going to drink an obscene amount of Guinness today. Fact.

[Smokey D]

Guiness = an arse and a lot of beer, eggs, bacon and potatoes.

This is after a day of St Paddy's and a lot of drinking, beer eggs and potato. And typos, U2 and the Pogues.

[Mr. Ron]

St. Patrick was really British. Fact. Or is it idk.

[PerpetualBurn]

I don't particularly care.

The German lad that lives on my floor asked me why we celebrate St. Patrick's day, and I kind of stared blankly for a while and mumbled "It's a piss up.".

[Smokey D]

Guiness = an arse and a lot of beer, eggs, bacon and potatoes.

This is after a day of St Paddy's and a lot of drinking, beer eggs and potato. And typos, U2 and the Pogues. And double posts. I trust you can figure out what's what.

On the plus side, daylight savings > the northern hempishpere. I get another hours sleep.

Plus, all the important Irish people were actually British. To say anything else is merely penis envy.

[Mr. Ron]

Meh all you UK'ers are really germans so it doesn't matter.

[PerpetualBurn]

Lies.

[pedro durruti]

Is it wrong that I'm not getting drunk today? I've got to use the money on laundry.. At least I'm having a potato for lunch.

[pedro durruti]

I succumbed to the Irish fervor... malt liquor tastes like candy after a bottle of Guinness.

[Der Übermensch]

Well according to a recent study, there is no difference between Irish and British anyways (genetically speaking)...

(Yeah... that was from the Colbert Report, but I don't think its false... anyone read the real story, not hear the comic send-up of it?)

[Dr Hooch]

They've put Adam Smith on the new 20 Pound notes...

It also looks like toy money :(

It really does.

Harder to forge my arse... I reckon in the next few weeks you could get away with monopoly 20s the new ones look so silly...

[griftadan]

i need to go buy a shitload of guiness and bass ale

is it bad that i'm making a drink that's offensive to the irish on saint patty's day?

[Egggo]

I succumbed to the Irish fervor... malt liquor tastes like candy after a bottle of Guinness.

lel it only took exactly 2 hours and 10 minutes :D

[Iskandar]

I did not do anything remotely Irish today. I went to a synagogue.

[Mr. Ron]

I worked.

[Iskandar]

I worked.Arbeit macht frei.

[Mr. Ron]

Arbeit macht frei.

Meine überein zurück nicht stimmt!


ugh my german is sooo rusty. :^[

[PerpetualBurn]

I succumbed to the Irish fervor... malt liquor tastes like candy after a bottle of Guinness.

I really hope you're not speaking ill of Guinness. It's great, though I prefer the much less popular Irish stout, Murphys.

[coheneran]

I didn't get drunk on the weekend, but I went to visit my old school and made a hundred quid for giving a former teacher a handjob.

[Captain Rapeface]

Hey me too what a qoincidence.

[lfantwister]

What prostitutes!

I went to Six Flags

[coheneran]

Prostitution is retribution for years of teenage angst at being sexually rejected.

[lfantwister]

What about that super 100 quid? It has the world to do with rejection I know

[coheneran]

It's interest.

[Dr Hooch]

I didn't get drunk on the weekend, but I went to visit my old school and made a hundred quid for giving a former teacher a handjob.

"Antoher fantastic advertisement for summerhill school!"

[coheneran]

"Antoher fantastic advertisement for summerhill school!"

Where children are free to be who they want to be!

Ninja EDIT: I was kidding about the handjob part.

[Mr. Ron]

Then a lawyer said, "But what of our Laws, master?"
And he answered:

You delight in laying down laws,
Yet you delight more in breaking them.
Like children playing by the ocean who build sand-towers with
constancy and then destroy them with laughter.
But while you build your sand-towers the ocean brings more sand to the shore,
And when you destroy them, the ocean laughs with you.
Verily the ocean laughs always with the innocent.

But what of those to whom life is not an ocean, and man-made laws are
not sand-towers,
But to whom life is a rock, and the law a chisel with which they
would carve it in their own likeness?
What of the cripple who hates dancers?
What of the ox who loves his yoke and deems the elk and deer of the
forest stray and vagrant things?
What of the old serpent who cannot shed his skin, and calls all
others naked and shameless?
And of him who comes early to the wedding-feast, and when over-fed
and tired goes his way saying that all feasts are violation and all
feasters law-breakers?

What shall I say of these save that they too stand in the sunlight,
but with their backs to the sun?
They see only their shadows, and their shadows are their laws.
And what is the sun to them but a caster of shadows?
And what is it to acknowledge the laws but to stoop down and trace
their shadows upon the earth?

But you who walk facing the sun, what images drawn on the earth can hold you?
You who travel with the wind, what weathervane shall direct your course?
What man's law shall bind you if you break your yoke but upon no
man's prison door?
What laws shall you fear if you dance but stumble against no man's
iron chains?
And who is he that shall bring you to judgment if you tear off your
garment yet leave it in no man's path?
People of Orphalese, you can muffle the drum, and you can loosen the
strings of the lyre, but who shall command the skylark not to sing?

-- Kahlil Gibran

[coheneran]

I. Love. You. Ronnie.

[Mr. Ron]

<333

[coheneran]

It's so lame that the rep system isn't working properly I haven't repped you recently have I?

[Mr. Ron]

Nope. I gave you some though. How are things?

[coheneran]

Things are gooood.

Just watched this and it cracked me up: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=2015512141

This also had me laughing today:
http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/03/365587.html

[Dr Hooch]

Where children are free to be who they want to be!

http://www.qwantz.com/shirt_dreams.png

[coheneran]

Notice the cityscape reflected in her helmet.

[badtaste]

Notice the cityscape reflected in her helmet.

It could be a space station.

Who wants to have a discussion about global poverty? Learning about it now, wouldn't mind discussing with you peeps. Just have to write up a piece.

[coheneran]

In your dreams.

[badtaste]

In your dreams.

How do you know its a 'her'?

Speaking of shirts, my friend wants to create a shirt with an image of those US army dudes raising the flag on Iwo Jima, with a slogan: "Freedom isn't free".

I don't get it. Please explain.

[coheneran]

How do you know its a 'her'?

Would you have said "How would you know it's a he?" if I'd used that signifier?

Speaking of shirts, my friend wants to create a shirt with an image of those US army dudes raising the flag on Iwo Jima, with a slogan: "Freedom isn't free".

I don't get it. Please explain.

It has two obvious meanings. One is patriotic and one is cynical.

Patriotic: Millions have paid a heavy price for this freedom.
Cynical: Millions have paid a heavy price for this so-called freedom.

It all depends on what meaning of the word "free" you're using. The patriotic one looks at it in the economic context while the cynical one looks at it in the social-libertarian context.

[Hababi]

Meet the mayor of Pittsburgh:
http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/rss/s_498774.html

[coheneran]

Lol.

Serenity
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[Hababi]

:lol: Coheneran thinks my post was a response to him.

[coheneran]

Sorry, I didn't catch all of that. Something about dirty Muslims and self-hating Jews, right?

[Hababi]

Sorry, I didn't catch all of that. Something about dirty Muslims and self-hating Jews, right?

ya you got it

[Dr Hooch]

Sorry, I didn't catch all of that. Something about dirty Muslims and self-hating Jews, right?

:lol::lol::lol:

you guys seen that cofederate flag noose?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259347,00.html

(foxnews so as i can't be accused of using a liberal sauce)

[Hababi]

:lol::lol::lol:

you guys seen that cofederate flag noose?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259347,00.html

(foxnews so as i can't be accused of using a liberal sauce)

I wouldn't impugn you for the story unless it was from something asinine like indymedia.

As for the story, :lol:

[coheneran]

Lol hanging a flag is hardly effective, they should have hung Hurst instead.

[Iskandar]

So, convert to Islam?

[coheneran]

Hey, as long as a government's denying basic human rights to its own citizens, it's an Iranian-style Islamic government.

Islamophobia, ITT.:p

That makes Bush an Islamic fundamentalist, obviously.

[Iskandar]

Hey, as long as a government's denying basic human rights to its own citizens, it's an Iranian-style Islamic government.

Islamophobia, ITT.:p

That makes Bush an Islamic fundamentalist, obviously.
After careful reading, I have concluded that I have no idea what you're talking about.

[coheneran]

Capital punishment, my communist friend, capital punishment. Breaks the first and most essential human right, without which no other human rights can exist: The right to life.

[Hababi]

Capital punishment, my communist friend, capital punishment. Breaks the first and most essential human right, without which no other human rights can exist: The right to life.

Yup.

[coheneran]

No Zero, you do not forfeit the right to life when you kill people.

[Iskandar]

Capital punishment, my communist friend, capital punishment. Breaks the first and most essential human right, without which no other human rights can exist: The right to life.Oh.

Why do you hate on Islam so much? I don't see how it's more worthy of criticism than any other religion.

[coheneran]

Oh.

Why do you hate on Islam so much? I don't see how it's more worthy of criticism than any other religion.

I was winding Zero up.:(

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

um in its present form i would say Islam is quite dumb

[Iskandar]

I was winding Zero up.:(I know, I was just asking the question while you're here.
um in its present form i would say it is worse than the other Abrahamic religions at least.
Now you need to explain why that might be.

[Dr Hooch]

Oh.

Why do you hate on Islam so much? I don't see how it's more worthy of criticism than any other religion.

All those religions are a bas as eachother, but i find islamic interpretation of their holy words less palatable than most others, in general.


Also is islam the only religion which sttes that sex with 9 year olds is like, A-ok, or are there others?

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

ok i got it wrong

the practise of islam in countries such as Saudi Arabia is just fine

[Iskandar]

ok i got it wrong

the practise of islam in countries such as Saudi Arabia is just fine
That's not the only interpretation of the religion. Don't patronize me.
Also is islam the only religion which sttes that sex with 9 year olds is like, A-ok, or are there others?I'm not aware that it allows this. Muhammad married a nine year old, but the age when this was consummated is disputed.

[coheneran]

Uhh, every religion is dumb. Just because our prudish liberal morality doesn't agree with Islam doesn't make it any more essentially dumb than any other religion.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

but we can't separate practise from an evaluation of a religion

and seeing as saudi arabia is such a socially enlightened place, i can only conclude islam is a great religion.

[coheneran]

Practice. Practise is a verb.

[Iskandar]

and seeing as saudi arabia is such a socially enlightened place, i can only conclude islam is a great religion.
Yeah, because all Muslims fully support the practices of Saudi Arabia and wish to see them implemented in other nations. You can't typecast a billion people.

[coheneran]

Yeah you can, but you won't make any friends doing it.

Except maybe Zero.

Tell me when it starts getting cruel.

[Iskandar]

Yeah you can, but you won't make any friends doing it.

Except maybe Zero.

Tell me when it starts getting cruel.
I think you should make amends with him, maybe build him a cake or something.

[coheneran]

Only if I can put a suicide bomber in it.:p

I don't think a self-hating Jew and a Zionazi can repair a broken relationship over the internet.

[Iskandar]

Only if I can put a suicide bomber in it.:p

I don't think a self-hating Jew and a Zionazi can repair a broken relationship over the internet.
Carry on, then.

[Dr Hooch]

That's not the only interpretation of the religion. Don't patronize me.
I'm not aware that it allows this. Muhammad married a nine year old, but the age when this was consummated is disputed.

I was under the impression he married a six year old and consummated at 9.

[coheneran]

Wow, score for him.

[Dr Hooch]

Wow, score for him.

photoshop.

Paintshop pro

send it to me and have me use the latter 4 u

[Iskandar]

I was under the impression he married a six year old and consummated at 9.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha%27s_age_at_marriage

Nah, I don't think anybody knows what her age really was.

[coheneran]

Or if she existed?

[Iskandar]

Or if she existed?Iunno mang. There's a ton of historical evidence about Muhammad but I've no idea how accurate it is.

[coheneran]

I see.

It doesn't really matter anyway, Islam is ****ing stupid.

That's not to say Christianity and Judhaism aren't.

I'm trying to find ways of being controversial without sounding bigotted. This is a bad habit I must sort out. Damn @narky got my social behaviour all mixeded up.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

There is nothing equivalent to the Middle East in Christianity and Judaism as far as I am aware. And without making comparisons to other religions, I don't really see how one can not find the practice of Islam in the Middle East distasteful.

although to be fair to muhammed, marriage to pre-pubescent girls is not an exclusively muslim thing

[PerpetualBurn]

The Protestants and Catholics in Ireland seem to get along.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

yes funny that

[coheneran]

There is nothing equivalent to the Middle East in Christianity and Judaism as far as I am aware. And without making comparisons to other religions, I don't really see how one can not find the practice of Islam in the Middle East distasteful.

although to be fair to muhammed, marriage to pre-pubescent girls is not an exclusively muslim thing

You mixed it up again, this time it was "practise".

Islam is distasteful. Pukeworthy, if you like. I like.

Something that intrigues me is child sexuality. Clearly children are sexual beings and have sexually-charged emotional feelings (I know I did, as well as some of my friends). I don't think it's right for adults to engage in sexual acts with your typical Western child now, for various, fairly obvious reasons to do with Western children's understanding of sexuality and how we treat them in regards to that, but I've had sexual experiences as a child and I know plenty others have (even though it's taboo to talk about it) as well, and we're emotionally healthy human beings (oxymoron disregarded). This is the beginning of a conversation I had with lfantwister.

Sorry about the change of subject.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

what about your typical non-Western child? Why do you make the distinction?

And what kind of 'sexual experience' did you have as a child?

[coheneran]

I say typical Western child because I don't know any other kind, but I do know how we treat and educate our kids when it comes to sexuality. If all you know are "Western" children, just take it to mean child. I didn't mean to imply anything more.

I'm not gonna lay it out in detail for you, but it wasn't sexual abuse, it was consentual.

[PerpetualBurn]

You mixed it up again, this time it was "practise".

The noun form makes sense in that context.

[coheneran]

The noun form makes sense in that context.

I guess it can as well. Depends on exactly what he means, but let's not fret.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

well idk i thought you had to have at least hit puberty to have a sexual experience

[coheneran]

Nope, you can have an orgasm before your body can ejaculate. In fact, it's a pretty common thing for a baby to get an erection while you're changing him. And it's pretty ****ing embarrassing and/or scary if the first time you come across that is when you're changing a baby.

[PerpetualBurn]

Babies getting erections isn't sexual.

[coheneran]

Not necessarily, that's true, but I'd imagine that if a baby's penis can be stimulated it can be brought to orgasm.

I know I was jacking off and coming before I could ejaculate.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

i vaguely remember erections as a kid, but before you get near puberty life is not sexualised in the same way

[coheneran]

i vaguely remember erections as a kid, but before you get near puberty life is not sexualised in the same way

Yes, there's definitely a difference in hormones, and in our society a difference in understanding of sexual situations, but that doesn't rule out the possibility for children to have sexual experiences.

[lfantwister]

Hell when I was in like preschool I had a lot of sexual experiences. Like more than the first two years of high school combined. It's different then though because you dont know whats ahppening

[coheneran]

Hell when I was in like preschool I had a lot of sexual experiences. Like more than the first two years of high school combined. It's different then though because you dont know whats ahppening

But is that inherent or a problem with our particular society's attitude to kids?

[lfantwister]

Is what inherent? Exploration or sexual stigmas?

[coheneran]

I mean is not knowing what's happening inherent for a child, or is it a product of our society's education (or lack of) of children?

[pedro durruti]

Is that Jas?

[coheneran]

How do you know Jas?!

[pedro durruti]

Ska

[coheneran]

I should have guessed.

[lfantwister]

I highly recommend chocolate chip cookies to the world

[ashman]

I highly recommend chocolate chip cookies to the world

I wholeheartedly support this.

[Iskandar]

Islam is distasteful. Pukeworthy, if you like. I like.
I'd take it over Christianity and most sects of Judaism. I think that while its practice in nations such as Saudi Arabia is repugnant, it doesn't have to be that way.

[griftadan]

i vaguely remember erections as a kid, but before you get near puberty life is not sexualised in the same way

lol i just called them stiffies and left them at that.

[coheneran]

I'd take it over Christianity and most sects of Judaism. I think that while its practice in nations such as Saudi Arabia is repugnant, it doesn't have to be that way.

Religion will always turn out that way because, just like with communism, it ends up being some arsehole's tool for power and control.

lol i just called them stiffies and left them at that.

Lol, stiffles.

[badtaste]

Would you have said "How would you know it's a he?" if I'd used that signifier?

Yes, I would have.


It has two obvious meanings. One is patriotic and one is cynical.

Patriotic: Millions have paid a heavy price for this freedom.
Cynical: Millions have paid a heavy price for this so-called freedom.

It all depends on what meaning of the word "free" you're using. The patriotic one looks at it in the economic context while the cynical one looks at it in the social-libertarian context.

Yeh, my friend is a right wing dude, and supports the American invasion.

Go team.

[Lupus]

Yes, I would have.
You must waste a good portion of your life being pedantic then.

[pedro durruti]

I just ate a bowl of oatmeal

[coheneran]

With milk or water?

[badtaste]

You must waste a good portion of your life being pedantic then.

Yep.

[ashman]

With milk or water?

What kind of savage has water with that?

[pedro durruti]

Dude, I had water... it tastes the same, mostly. At least for the cheap oatmeal.

[ashman]

Savage!

[pedro durruti]

ashman, if you were twice this by eight I'd throw you in a riverbed

[coheneran]

Went to a party, it was jumpin'
Mashin' up the plates, the beat was really pumpin'
Took a mean beverage to a knockout in the corner
Boyfriend arrives, black eye short order


Cookie to whoever guesses what song I'm trying to transcribe.

Any physicists in the house wanna confirm or deny this? http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/03/365857.html

Newest South Park episode, it's great, and explores Gaia Theory: http://www.allsp.com/l.php?id=e156

[Dr Hooch]

Went to a party, it was jumpin'
Mashin' up the plates, the beat was really pumpin'
Took a mean beverage to a knockout in the corner
Boyfriend arrives, black eye short order


Cookie to whoever guesses what song I'm trying to transcribe.

Any physicists in the house wanna confirm or deny this? http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/03/365857.html

The chances of building and using it successfully without killing or maiming yourself are pretty slim. Those things are SO dangerous, and this ain't 'the man', talking, it's a guy who nearly has a levels in electronics and physics ;)

It's not like it's not possible, but like, lets just say the only person in this thread who'd advise you to try it would be zero.

[coheneran]

Hahaha, I wouldn't try it anyway, I'm not interested in killing anyone.

But dude, if you ever find out how to build something that could transmit an emp, hook me up eh?

Oh yeah, I was gonna email you about those recordings but I forgot, I don't have a mic.:(

[Dr Hooch]

Hahaha, I wouldn't try it anyway, I'm not interested in killing anyone.

But dude, if you ever find out how to build something that could transmit an emp, hook me up eh?

Oh yeah, I was gonna email you about those recordings but I forgot, I don't have a mic.:(

Don't sweat the mic, we haven't heard form our keyboardist in a while anyway.


Yes, i know where to get EMP schematics, but i refuse to give them to you until you tell me what they're for.

Also, EMP bombs aren't really a practical idea for home use because of the caps you'd need; best you could hope for is a short range EMP emitter, which probably wouldn't have the range for taking down riot vehicles or policemen with masers...

[coheneran]

Don't sweat the mic, we haven't heard form our keyboardist in a while anyway.


Yes, i know where to get EMP schematics, but i refuse to give them to you until you tell me what they're for.

Also, EMP bombs aren't really a practical idea for home use because of the caps you'd need; best you could hope for is a short range EMP emitter, which probably wouldn't have the range for taking down riot vehicles or policemen with masers...

The way I see it, something that could take out electricity is the strongest weapon against the state, and could be used to pull off some amazing feats of direct action like taking down the whole biometric ID database (which I know even you would support).

But that's not nearly as important as pulling pranks, which would be my primary directive.

Would an EMP screw up an electric tool that isn't switched on? Like, if I took my battery out of my mobile, charged a pulse, and then put it back in and turned it on, would it be buggered up, d'you reckon?

[Der Übermensch]

I think the batteries would be ****ed up, but the device itself would be ok maybe?

[Dr Hooch]

I honestly don't know. I'll look into it.

EMP FAQ Reply with quote
Due to the ongoing creation of EMP threads, I thought it would be useful to create a FAQ to answer new users' questions more quickly and easily. Please limit your replies to additions to the FAQ and EMP-related questions. Let's try to keep all EMP discussion in this thread.

EMP FAQ

What is an EMP?

EMP stands for Electromagnetic Pulse. As a weapon, it is a type of HERF (High Energy Radio Frequency) device, capable of disrupting electronics temporarily or permanently depending on the strength of the pulse. More technical information can be found here.

Where can I find plans for an EMP?

If you can't read and build from schematics, it is unlikely that you have enough knowledge to successfully build an EMP. Schematics may be found here.

That design, as it is, will not produce enough power to actually damage anything.

How can I modify that design so it will be more powerful?

The only way to increase the distance the waves travel is to increase the output voltage. In this case, increasing the voltage across the inductor (L1) would be the best option. To do this, put in a very high voltage transformer with perhaps a 1:5000 loop ratio, and put the inductor on the side with 5000 loops, connecting the wires that used to go to the inductor to the 1 loop in the transformer. That would increase the voltage by 5000x and make the EMP much more effective. (credit to Jon)

You will also probably need a magnetron, but they are dangerous to work with. They are found in microwave ovens.

In order to produce the spike required to disable electronics, you would require a huge bank of capacitors, such as the ones found in AC units. Simply stringing a dozen 9 volt batteries together will not produce the wattage needed.

How can I direct the EMP so it disables my roommate's subwoofer but not my testicles?

Use a parabolic reflector.

Is it even possible for me to build an EMP?

Unlikely. Even if you have the technical knowledge and understand the schematics, it will be very difficult for you to procure the supplies needed to actually destroy electronics. It is very easy to build a low-power EMP, but the majority of the people who ask EMP questions want to disable electronics. The answer is most likely no, unless you are very rich and very bored. You may also find yourself on the terrorist suspects list, since the only people who have the resources to build a powerful EMP are probably going to use it for warfare. The EMP device is mostly hype and science fiction. The most powerful EMPs result from nuclear explosions, and it's unlikely you'll be able to make one of those. If you do somehow make a somewhat powerful EMP, be sure to post your schematics for others to paw over.

http://www.freeinfosociety.com/electronics/schemview.php?id=2279

[pedro durruti]

I'm watching Star Wars on YouTube. Episode IV... Wonderful way to spend Saturday!

[coheneran]

www.allsp.com

[Petros]

You can make a limited EMP bomb with some high explosive, some capacitors, a metal tube and wire wrapped around the tube. The capacitor generates a magnetic field in the wires and the explosion forces the magnetic field out of the tube at high velocity.

[badtaste]

Watching a doco about the moon right now. Very interesting stuff.

Fact 1
The moon is drifting away from the Earth.

Fact 2
Well, not a fact, but an interesting question and thought. Is the moon's lunar cycle connected to the human woman's menstruation cycle? Pure coincidence?

Fact 3
Related to fact 1: as the moon is drifting away, this means solar (or is it lunar?) eclipses won't be the same in the future. Currently, when the moon passes between the sun and the earth, the visual effect results in your typical white rim around the dark moon. As moon drifts away, it will get smaller and smaller, so the eclipse effect will be reduced (sorta). So, we're lucky to be living in this day and age, or something to that effect.

[Smokey D]

Well, not a fact, but an interesting question and thought. Is the moon's lunar cycle connected to the human woman's menstruation cycle? Pure coincidence?

Probably co-incidental seeing as menstrural cycles aren't tied to any particular phase in the lunar calendar and vary month to month quite significantly.

[badtaste]

Probably co-incidental seeing as menstrural cycles aren't tied to any particular phase in the lunar calendar and vary month to month quite significantly.

Haha yeah probably. Funny thing, coincidences are.

Opinion 1
People who are rich enough to book a ticket to the moon, should put their money into more charitable causes, even if they have done so already (and will probably contribute more than I ever could or will). BUT then again, I'm assuming some of the money paid to go space tripping would be used for sexilicious research. I don't know, just seems like a potential waste of money to satisfy one person.

[Dr Hooch]

Opinion 1
People who are rich enough to book a ticket to the moon, should put their money into more charitable causes, even if they have done so already (and will probably contribute more than I ever could or will). BUT then again, I'm assuming some of the money paid to go space tripping would be used for sexilicious research. I don't know, just seems like a potential waste of money to satisfy one person.

Bad attitude

a) What particular sum of money is it no longer ok to spend on yourself regardless of how you earned it

b) What right have we to tell people how to spend money that they came by legitimately

c) moon trips = awesome

[badtaste]

Bad attitude

a) What particular sum of money is it no longer ok to spend on yourself regardless of how you earned it

b) What right have we to tell people how to spend money that they came by legitimately

c) moon trips = awesome

Yeah, no worries. I am very aware of those things and sorta hinted at it. I just think we should put on a cap on all ridiculously rich people's spending habits. Kabillionaires aren't going to die without their vintage cars, or hundreds of designer shoes, or gold plated swimming pools, etc...

And yes, we don't have a right to tell anyone what to spend their money on. It should just be commonsense not to waste your money on gold plated swimming pools.

Moon trips... meh. Memories only last until your death.

[Dr Hooch]

Yeah, no worries. I am very aware of those things and sorta hinted at it. I just think we should put on a cap on all ridiculously rich people's spending habits. Kabillionaires aren't going to die without their vintage cars, or hundreds of designer shoes, or gold plated swimming pools, etc...

And yes, we don't have a right to tell anyone what to spend their money on. It should just be commonsense not to waste your money on gold plated swimming pools.

Moon trips... meh. Memories only last until your death.

You can't take it with you ;)

[badtaste]

Any one of these days, I'm going to make a 'sociology of a forum' thread here, where we explore how the microsociety that is a forum operates and functions. I'm particularly interested in online arguments/disputes, behavioural tendencies, power (through symbolism), and various other interesting crap.

That's right bitches, society controls you. Anyone here study sociology (I ish in first year, but have had a pet interest since I was a wee boy)?