This is the Industrial/ Industrial Metal thread!

[The Masked Guitarist]

Industrial is one of my favorite genres of music. I like any industrial from marliyn manson to skinny puppy to nine inch nails and evan ministry. This thread is for the other industrialheads out there or people that want suggestions on where to start in industrial. Join me and speak of Industrial Music! :chug:

[Neoteric]

Is Industrial even a popular genre?

<3 NIN <3

[repcak]

yeah i like industrial too!
on monday i have seen deathstars (industrial gothic band from sweden) - they played in vienna on a festival for free; they were great :D

i listen to:
NIN
Skinny Puppy
Deathstars
Ministry
The Kovenant

... and Marilyn Manson is NOT Industrial!!

[Futuro]

I hated the new Nine Inch Nail album. But the older stuff is cool.

:-)

[munky_magik]

Anyone heard the latest Ministry release?

[blankpagespeaks]

I've been getting into industrial pretty good lately. I'm going to have to check out the Kovenant and Deathstars; I haven't heard either of those before. I'm mainly into Skinny Puppy, Ministry, and KMFDM right now. I also like Nine Inch Nails, but not to the degree of those others.

Any recommendations for a beginner would be appreciated.

[repcak]

Is the new Ministry album already released? i think i missed the release date ... i looking forward to it, cause i heard it should be again in the tradition of "Psalm 69" which was a masterpiece :d


I don't know if Deathstars and The Kovenant are famous enough, to get something by them. When you visit the official website of Deathstars you will find 3videos and some mp3s to download (free)
Kovenant are very similar to them (imo) - but be aware that there exist a band called Kovenant with K, and a band called Covenant with C ... they are making both different music - i think (but i'm not sure) i mean Kovenant with K :p

how are KMFDM? i never heard anything by them...

ps.: i made some photos and videos on the Deathstars concert... i will upload them some day when i will have more time.

[blankpagespeaks]

Thanks, repcak. I'll check out the Deathstars site, and attempt to find something by the right Kovenant, haha.

I like KMFDM pretty good, but that's just me. I don't know if you download music or not, but if you do, get "Juke Joint Jezebel" (probably their best-known tune) and "A Drug Against War." Several of the members were in another project called MDFMK, but I haven't heard them yet. I need to get some of their stuff.

[repcak]

ok, thank you ... i will check them out.

[the2stranger]

Is the new Ministry album already released? i think i missed the release date ... i looking forward to it, cause i heard it should be again in the tradition of "Psalm 69" which was a masterpiece :d


I don't know if Deathstars and The Kovenant are famous enough, to get something by them. When you visit the official website of Deathstars you will find 3videos and some mp3s to download (free)
Kovenant are very similar to them (imo) - but be aware that there exist a band called Kovenant with K, and a band called Covenant with C ... they are making both different music - i think (but i'm not sure) i mean Kovenant with K :p

how are KMFDM? i never heard anything by them...

ps.: i made some photos and videos on the Deathstars concert... i will upload them some day when i will have more time.

The Covenant and Kovenant are the same band:p
They had some issues with their name being copyrighted or something and they had to change it, they're still the same band even though the music has changed quite a bit.
Hellhammer played drums on one of their earlier releases if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not big on Industrial by the wa, I just saw this thread and thought let's have a look.

some NIN is ok, I like Red Harvest too, a death metal band with lots of electronic influences.
anyone heard of them?

[repcak]

aha... good to know.
a friend told me that Covenant are a gothic band and Kovenant a industrial metal band :confused: are you sure that its the same band?!

[the2stranger]

check this:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5045
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=92
:p

There is also an english band called Kovenant, but they've only released one demo, playing heavy metal.
It's quite confusing, but I think they're the same band.

[repcak]

you convinced me :P
thank you for the information.... the only album i have is "S.E.T.I" and i love it :D

edit:
"Now known as The Kovenant, they had to change their name for legal issues after the release of "Nexus Polaris" due to the name already being used by a much longer-running Swedish EBM band."
so there exist a band called Covenant who is making "Gothic" music ... EBM is a genre of gothic... electronic gothic or something like that, i'm not sure.

[the2stranger]

^
I thought that wasweird too, bit it says it's a Swedish band, although I don't see any mention of a swedish EBM band on M-A

Covenant and The Kovenant (of the links in my ealrier post are from Beregn (Norway).
So I still think it's a confusing matter :p

I cleared some mysteries, but brought some others too (A)
And I'm not big enough on these genres to tell you exactly what's going on, maybe some one else can clear up the other mystery.

[The Masked Guitarist]

I hated the new Nine Inch Nail album. But the older stuff is cool.

:-)
i liked pretty hate machine but hated with teeth but liked every day is exactly the same .......... LOVED the downward spiral :thumb:

[The Masked Guitarist]

yeah i like industrial too!
on monday i have seen deathstars (industrial gothic band from sweden) - they played in vienna on a festival for free; they were great :D

i listen to:
NIN
Skinny Puppy
Deathstars
Ministry
The Kovenant

... and Marilyn Manson is NOT Industrial!!
hey some people clasify it as industrial/goth i was simply saying from here to there ....... you know?
sorry bout the double post .....oops

[repcak]

marilyn manson was never industrial... there isn't one second, in any of his songs that you can classify it as "industrial". its just simple gothic-rock... no.. ..sorry... its manson; manson is manson, he's his own genre :p

[The Masked Guitarist]

marilyn manson was never industrial... there isn't one second, in any of his songs that you can classify it as "industrial". its just simple gothic-rock...
agreed ..... but it is often classifyed as industrial/goth do you dissagree?

[repcak]

i never heard this before... so i disagree.

[The Masked Guitarist]

ok then that is settled i disagree with the classification and agree with you

[Sleepy]

I'm not a huge fan of pure industrial, but there are plenty of hybrids that I enjoy, like Mors Principum Est and The Amenta.

[munky_magik]

Is the new Ministry album already released? i think i missed the release date ... i looking forward to it, cause i heard it should be again in the tradition of "Psalm 69" which was a masterpiece :d

I'm pretty sure it is out. I was hoping someone had heard it already...curses :-/

[The Masked Guitarist]

what new ministry rio grande blood? or another?

[repcak]

yes, its rio grande blood.

[The Masked Guitarist]

yes indeed
is it the one with all song like with w's ur no ?

[Flie]

Hey guys I have never heard any industrial I don't think so could someone send me some good industrial songs?

[Kage]

I don't like industrial at all anymore, though I did get heavily into it around two years ago. I was into a whole lot of bands, Einstruende Neuebauten mainly.

Oh, of course I'm a big fan of NIN, but I don't really consider them to be industrial.

[repcak]

hey, Kage, how are you? i haven't seen you for a looong time.

why do you stopped listening to Industrial? i too can't get into Einstürzende Neubauten, cause i don't like German lyrics :p (i know that sounds strange). but there are industrial bands i really love who are great. the best(!) industrial album i discoverd recently is Skinny Puppy - The Process; its an amazing record... it has some of the beautifullest melancholic songs i've ever heard.

[i am the robots]

I like a lot of Industrial/Metal combo stuff... like newer In Flames (debatable), Issues-era Korn, really old Taproot, Spineshank, Fear Factory, Mushroomhead, Powerman 5000, etc.

[repcak]

I like a lot of Industrial/Metal combo stuff... like newer In Flames (debatable), Issues-era Korn, really old Taproot, Spineshank, Fear Factory, Mushroomhead, Powerman 5000, etc.
In Flames - no
Korn - no

Fear Factory is indeed industrial metal, the other bands i don't know.

[i am the robots]

Dude, I don't think you can just flat out say that Korn and In Flames have no industrial elements... I'm saying songs like Alone I Break, Make Me Bad, The Quiet Place, and Discover Me Like Emptiness, the bands are both quite varied, but they have a lot of industrial stuff under their belts.

[The_Riddler]

I am a huge fan of KMFDM, I really cannot get enough of their music, I have always found it interesting, ever since - and sadly - after I heard them on the Mortal Kombat soundtrack many years ago. KMFDM are one of my favorite bands.

Dude, I don't think you can just flat out say that Korn and In Flames have no industrial elements... I'm saying songs like Alone I Break, Make Me Bad, The Quiet Place, and Discover Me Like Emptiness, the bands are both quite varied, but they have a lot of industrial stuff under their belts.

In my opinion, just because some bands have a few songs which might have been influenced by the industrial sound, doesn't make them an industrial band.

[repcak]

In my opinion, just because some bands have a few songs which might have been influenced by the industrial sound, doesn't make them an industrial band.
i agree, and what you think that they use industrial, is only electronic things the use in their songs... you have a lot of bands who use electronics, but they aren't industrial.

[Dark_Hero]

I like Axis of Perdition. They are industrial black metal.

[blankpagespeaks]

the best(!) industrial album i discoverd recently is Skinny Puppy - The Process; its an amazing record... it has some of the beautifullest melancholic songs i've ever heard.
Wow, thank you! I listened to some of that record, and I agree, it's amazing. Very haunting, very melancholy. This makes me want to dig deeper into Skinny Puppy and industrial.

[King B]

I really love the german industrial bands like kmfdm and einstruzende neubauten. The german language fits so perfectly with the music. America has some sweet industrial bands though, like ministry and old NIN.

Anyone heard lard? It's Al Jourgensen and Jello Biafra. Crazy industrial-punk mix

[The Masked Guitarist]

I like a lot of Industrial/Metal combo stuff... like newer In Flames (debatable), Issues-era Korn, really old Taproot, Spineshank, Fear Factory, Mushroomhead, Powerman 5000, etc.
korn - absolutly not
in flames - only saying that because keybaords
taproot - negitive
mushroomhead - nope (i guess you could say so for the samples and stuff)
powerman 5000 - mayyyybeee
im not saying the bands arn't good i like most of them but not industrial dude :thumb:

[The Masked Guitarist]

I really love the german industrial bands like kmfdm and einstruzende neubauten. The german language fits so perfectly with the music. America has some sweet industrial bands though, like ministry and old NIN.

Anyone heard lard? It's Al Jourgensen and Jello Biafra. Crazy industrial-punk mix
agreed !!!!!!!!!!!!11 :thumb::chug: :p
(damnit double post)
added a poll
the next one will be out of request bands!

[The Masked Guitarist]

oh my god i have to triple post to bump up the thread .... sorry
well do the poll and request some bands for next poll

[repcak]

i won't call NIN industrial... Trent is coming from the Industrial corner, but his music is not industrial... nin is his own genre.

and out of the above, i can't decide between skinny puppy and ministry

[Kage]

I forgot to add, my favorite industrial band (and one of the only ones I listen to) is Pig. It's Raymond Watt's project, and it's some great, dark stuff.

I haven't heard Skinny Puppy's The Process, but I might check it out.

[repcak]

never heard of this band... but 'dark stuff' sounds great :D

[Kids_For_Christ]

hold-up......what kinda stuff is industrial (obviously all those bands) what makes it "industrial"?

[repcak]

read this : wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_music)

its a kind of electronic music, which try to emulate the sound of "industry": machines, factorys, etc.

[repcak]

i once wrote a special topic in english about NIN and Industrial for my matura exame; here is a part of it:

Industrial music:

Industrial music grew as an offshoot of electronic music known as musique concrete, which was made by manipulating cut sections of recording tape, and adding very early sound output from analog electronics devices. The term Industrial Music was originally coined by Monte Cazazza as the strapline for the record label Industrial Records, founded by British art-provocateur Throbbing Gristle. This original artist have very little musical connection with modern "industrial music". Although contemporary to punk rock in the mid-to-late 1970s such as the Sex Pistols, industrial music was more hard hitting and thought-provoking.
Unlike other forms of popular music, industrial music was (and still is) critical of systems of power and control, and this criticism clearly extends to the record industry. It was nothing new for bands to be and work independently from their labels, but it was very important for them. While several punk bands wanted to have a major record deal, none of the early industrial bands had much taste to get famous by lossing their independence. Industrial music and punk shared for a couple of years a strong desire for negation, a strong desire to break (musical) rules and express disgust.

The essential ideas of the industrial music are:

Organizational Autonomy:
A conscious choice to record independently. To preserve the intention of music and to take it away from the tainted and greedy major record companies who enjoyed success at others expense.

Use of Synthesizers and Anti-Music:
Using found materials and unconventional means of composition industrial music was more antagonistic to its intended audience, than being music true itself. It was "sounds without content".

Extra-Musical Elements:
Television has become a more powerful agent of control than any pop music song and therefore it was important to bring their message through this medium too and to shock people. Bad quality, colour bleeds and feedback were the results of primitive technology, but at least for industrial artists very important to express themselves.

Shock Tactics:
The final blow in the scheme for control has to be the use of hitting home what you have to say, making sure that it gets noticed. By far, this last technique is what is most often used by modern day "industrialists" and most probably the connecting puzzle piece that gave them such a distinction at all. Unfortunately, we've all witnessed death and war so often in this day and age, that we got “imune”, and this shock tactics got useless

First wave of industrial music:
The first wave of this music appeared in the late 1970s in the UK with bands like Throbbing Gristle and Cabaret Voltaire. Blending electronic synthesisers, guitars and early samplers, these bands created an aggressive and abrasive music fusing elements of rock with experimental electronic music. Like their punk cousins, they enjoyed the use of shock-tactics (topics ranging from serial killing to sex and censorship) including explicit lyrical content, graphic art and Fascist imagery. The label Industrial Records controversially used an image of a gas chamber as its logo. Although critics felt they were too deviant, their brand of confrontation signaled a desire for a change in the political and social system currently in place. However bleak and distressing, their music was merely a reflection of the society that surrounded them.
In the early 1980s, advances in sampling technology and the popularity of synthesised new wave music bought some industrial musicians greater exposure. As much as some new wave bands were informed by the experiments of the industrial bands, the original industrial groups also began to refine their sound by experimented with dance beats.

Industrial rock (metal):
In the 1980s the more experimental side of industrial music became subsumed into dance and rock music. In North America, bands such as Skinny Puppy and Ministry mixed shock-rock performances with electronic samples and heavy metal guitars to create a genre often referred to as "industrial rock/metal". Other notable artists in this genre enjoyed widespread mainstream success in the 1990s, including but not limited to Nine Inch Nails, White Zomby and Fear Factory.


i wrote this some 3years ago and meanwhile i know more about industrial than those 3years ago... i changed my view and position about industrial music and some things are not 100% correct. i was only 18 while writing it and the only industrial band i knew was NIN :p

[The Masked Guitarist]

well at least you know what your talking about!
im trying to look into buying some synth equiptment if you know anything post it!

[repcak]

i tried to do some industrial/electronic stuff too ... this was last year, but i didn't came far.

i downloaded some software synthesizer:
Arturia CS-80V (this was one of the first synthesizers and now its available as a software, because you can't buy it anymore - as far as i know);
Rebirth is another program (but i'm not sure)

if you want i can upload Arturia CS-80V - its about 28mb big

edit: industrial.org (http://www.industrial.org) is a pretty good site!
or try this website - there are some samplers, link (http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/tagsViewSingle.php?id=124_54_607)

[munky_magik]

I wouldn't mind it, if it's not too much hassle for you to upload :)

[thatscooliguess]

i sorta am weiry of NIN these days.... industrial yes... but their last album was starting to take a more rockish way.... more mainstream and such.... i dunno Trent Reznor is friken awsome though..... i give him lots of credit...

[repcak]

I wouldn't mind it, if it's not too much hassle for you to upload :)
i can upload it tomorrow. so everyone who's interested, post your email... (but don't forget to keep the discussion going)

[niobium]

THIS THREAD FAILS WITHOUT A GODFLESH OPTION.

I voted for Fear Factory, but it's clear that Godflesh need to be a choice. They are the clear winners.

[The Masked Guitarist]

THIS THREAD FAILS WITHOUT A GODFLESH OPTION.

I voted for Fear Factory, but it's clear that Godflesh need to be a choice. They are the clear winners.
ok i will get Godflesh on the next one :thumb:

and repcak e-mail is ja_666_crowley_777@hotmail.com :chug:

[BassMasterMike88]

I don't really listen to much Industrial, NIN and Fear Factory are about it. My question is at what point does Industrial cross the boarderline between its genre and becomes more like electronic, and perhaps nu metal to some degree?

Some of my buddies insist the Marylin Manson is Industrial, but I disagree.

[repcak]

for me, industrial is industrial and there is no bordercross to electronic or even nu-metal ... when it reach its border it isn't industrial anymore, its another genre.

and i agree with you that MM is not industrial.

[repcak]

and repcak e-mail is ja_666_crowley_777@hotmail.com :chug:
email sent

edit: ERROR... couldn't sent it... i got the mail back! is this really your email ?

[munky_magik]

Oh, if you've still got the link handy mind passing it my way? My e-mail should be in my forum profile somewhere.

[Hells Bells]

heh, I don't know enough about any of the bands on that poll to be able to comment on them, much less pick a favourite -.-
Industrial's kind of a new thing for me, and the only bands I've really gotten into were VNV Nation and Combichrist.

[The Masked Guitarist]

email sent

edit: ERROR... couldn't sent it... i got the mail back! is this really your email ?
yea inless ... oops its ja_777_crowley_666@hotmail.com i said 666 then 777 didn't i sorry:thumb:

[munky_magik]

Oh my, this thing is gonna be so much fun to use :)

[repcak]

ok, i sent it once again... you should get the mail now.

i never used this program... i didn't knew really how to use it :upset:

[The Masked Guitarist]

Got the e-mail downloading it now but i have to leave so i cant use it yet when i get back i will try!

[rata]

im really into KMFDM and NIN... and also Stabbing Westward and a bit of Orgy... Stabbing got me into Industrial 6 years ago... Im currently listening to Arkarna right now.though not on the metal side their still pass as an industrial band.....

care to share that application you were saying...

inward_abulia@hotmail.com

[The Masked Guitarist]

This poll is relly going no where .....
/chuckles about it for a while

[Hevy Tred]

Had to vote rammstien for that one, Fear factory just sucks.. and Ministry would be my other vote Psalm 69!

[Someperson]

Hey, what about Throbbing Gristle? BTW, has anyone seen this Skinny Puppy video yet? Someone did a SP mashup with Vanilla Ice :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqWziL0sPG4

Speaking of Ministry the new CD came out. Pretty darn good too. You can acually listen to the whole thing on MP3.com

http://www.mp3.com/albums/20102258/summary.html?q=rio%20grande%20blood

Wikipedia has a pretty good article about Industrial music and shows a lot of the most influential artists. Youtube has plenty of videos for you to check out for a lot of these artists as well. A lot of the earlier Industrial stuff is a lot different from what it is now. Most of the earlier stuff was noise experiments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_music

I might come back later and post a few videos so you can see a history of some of the most influential artists.

[repcak]

Got the e-mail downloading it now but i have to leave so i cant use it yet when i get back i will try!

how do you like it?

[Someperson]

So here are some videos I found on Youtube. I picked out Human League and Suicide because these are two groups a lot of electronic musicians point out as major influences on their music. I didn't go back to some of the musique concrete stuff before TG so there are more people before these guys. Oh yeah, some really early Ministry videos are on the list too :)

Human League
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFstH2DE4BQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3axPj58fT8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkhwLOWt2wk

Suicide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRTCqgAkfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WqOMPakGCg

Throbbing Gristle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8klW9trVTQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bLy9r5MSSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7kauOh15jg

Psychic TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxwZncW5KQA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-t3cXXS7Ho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yr8w_vZ5E

Coil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4vO3L6sycM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAKKoQUsXXM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e0NG1v6rwU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW7v87voI0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtxXnfv8wk8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpqOR_Wb_hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThBFgiijYTM

Einsturzende Neubauten
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KrL0QLaCAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE35XzgSqQo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjxOF8MduAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV3R5vdxnMk

Laibach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YE_j0xIsJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3SvjSu4R-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BukDVsLS_pc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zSRcFxZVAA

Cabaret Voltaire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBEj7T7WYM8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKF_ir5Ok8w

Fad Gadget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGXBjwifubI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_koH69jGP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_OaI74Qmt4

Test Dept
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBFeWSWiwJY

DAF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDQPVXUegPs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB121qgYmv8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwAJXV070OY

SPK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPBpYIZC9PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSCPL0e7498

Nitzer Ebb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYYWMv1M89o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MKJ4yFuFCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZBgZAdPnw4

Clock DVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1WfUG-IMWo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFZrDDZNFm0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAak4e1qXcQ

Front 242
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRpeVcjMvNo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=patn76ovec0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UInclsEvhh4

Severed Heads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snDEm2YaeSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDLhrL7g_sM

Foetus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA91fsnN1tY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twVwQy4KZAo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRkBl81oW_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ6_gQ8QGJ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6bLxAp8c5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_52241cMx24

Skinny Pupppy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzBY79YLAwI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFgUV44TTpY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbMiMRjHmxg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFZAPvbyHgY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7d_oG-9to4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khdSfwAa_NU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8U_Etj0wNo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REOajybBxI0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXT6KrX-PF4

Ohgr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsoTxgSBbnE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtBVaFeMKrY

Ministry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh56z0LCdWs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGskkcIDdXg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6P3xMaDTQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxLFLHMMPx4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9LvYOfe3rY

[The Masked Guitarist]

kraftwerk anyone?

[munky_magik]

I wouldn't really call Kraftwerk Industrial.

[Someperson]

I wouldn't really call Kraftwerk Industrial.

They had an influence on some industrial bands. A lot of bands put into the krautrock genre back then were big influences such as Tangerine Dream, Faust, Neu! and Can.

BTW, I added some more stuff to that list up there. Some Coil, Psychic TV, Laibach, and Ohgr.

[thatscooliguess]

Kraftwerk is friken freaky..... i love em... but when i think industrial i think darker more machinish sounds then some of kraftwerk's material. But Radio activity has got to be one of my all time favorite Kraftwerk songs. or maybe Music Non Stop.... good stuff.

[The Masked Guitarist]

great stuf!
/bumping up the thread

[repcak]

hey, masked guitarist, how do you like the synthesizer i sent you?

[Riva]

Does anyone here like Samael's later work, such as Reign of Light. It's fairly industrial, and it's suprising for me to like it considering I'm not a big fan of the genre.

[repcak]

never heard this bandname.

does anybody listened to the new Ministry album?

[Someperson]

never heard this bandname.

does anybody listened to the new Ministry album?

You can listen to the whole album here
http://www.mp3.com/albums/20102258/summary.html?q=rio%20grande%20blood