Traditional Doom Metal

[Freezing Moon]

This thread is soley for the discussion of doom metal in the traditional and/or epic style of doom. Please refrain from discussing any gothic, drone, funeral, death/doom, or other styles of the genre. There are other threads which welcome those, this one does not.

For those of you not familiar with the doom genre, I recommend heading over to http://www.doom-metal.com and reading some of the informative articles there. They will explain what it is that makes doom doom.

I've been listening to this genre a lot lately, and it's been growing on me every day. Here are some of my favorites recently...

Orodruin - Epicurean Mass
The Gates of Slumber - The Awakening
Reverend Bizarre & Orodruin - You Shall Suffer!
Trouble - The Skull
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus

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For those of you wondering what defines Traditional Doom, it is doom metal with a pure lineage of bands like Black Sabbath, Trouble, Pentagram and Witchfinder General. Traditional Doom often has a lot of Black Sabbath influence. Death/Doom and Funeral Doom are more derived from Death Metal, and bands like Black Sabbath have no say in their sound.

Some examples of Traditional Doom:
Candlemass, Orodruin, Black Sabbath, Trouble, Witchfinder General, Pentagram, Saint Vitus, Reverend Bizarre, Count Raven, The Obsessed, etc.

Listen to a few of these and you will quickly understand the defining sound of the genre.

[AA-12]

Moon of Sorrow = Great.

[Inpropagation]

Reverend Bizarre and Cathedral are probably my favorite doom bands right now.

[Nepenthe]

Doomsword has been a favorite of mine recently.

[Freezing Moon]

I'm really enjoying Reverend Bizarre. Their song on the split with Orodruin, "Demons Annoying Me" is a masterpiece. In The Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend is great too.

[Inpropagation]

I'm really enjoying Reverend Bizarre. Their song on the split with Orodruin, "Demons Annoying Me" is a masterpiece. In The Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend is great too.

Yeah, I don't have that split, I have most of their EP's/full lengths though.

What do you guys think of the new Candlemass?

[Crysiss]

I just got a Candlemass album, Its great:thumb:

[AA-12]

Ah, I forgot about Isole. They are one of my favorite bands at the moment.

[Shattered_Future]

I personally love Isole. They make some excellent doom metal.

EDIT: Goddamn you Josh. :mad:

[Freezing Moon]

I like the new Candlemass. It's far from their best, but it's better than most of the stuff put out last year. There are some high quality tracks on it.

I like Isole a lot, but I over-listened Forevermore. :P

[AA-12]

Haha, same with me. It's addicting as hell.

[Shattered_Future]

His voice is oddly addicting, in a way...

Somehow, they manage to write slow as hell songs, yet still keep them interesting. And that's damn hard to do.

[Lord Abortion]

The latest Candlemass album is, I think, their best.
There are very few songs that equal the day and the night for musical,vocal and lyrical quality...brilliant album.

Also the latest Cathedral is amazing, Corpsecycle may be one of the best songs they have ever written.

[Freezing Moon]

Haha, same with me. It's addicting as hell.
It's got some great riffs, that's for sure.

If you like Isole, Solstice is kind of similar. New Dark Age is highly recommended.

NP: Solitude Aeternus - Black Castle

[Shattered_Future]

I was always partial to The Etheral Mirror by Cathedral. Ride = \m/.

I actually did a review on Forevermore, that people don't comment on. :mad:

http://sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=5008

/shamless review whore. :)

[Inpropagation]

The latest Candlemass album is, I think, their best.
There are very fe songs that equal the day and the night for musical,vocaland lyrical quality..brilliant album.

Also the latest Cathedral is amazing, Corpsecycle may be one of the best songs they have ever written.

I only own the VIIth Coming, Soul sacrifice and The Carnival Bizarre, how would it compare?

[Lord Abortion]

I recently got Doomed for live by Candlemass, they play Bewitched and Solitude on there, which are two of my favourites.


I only own the VIIth Coming, Soul sacrifice and The Carnival Bizarre, how would it compare?
First of all, buy the Ethereal Mirror. It's the best thing since sliced bread.

the latest one is pretty damn good, it's worth it for Corpsecycle and Upon Azrael's wings.

[AA-12]

It's got some great riffs, that's for sure.

If you like Isole, Solstice is kind of similar. New Dark Age is highly recommended.

NP: Solitude Aeternus - Black Castle
Yeah.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check them out in a while and post back here.

[Nepenthe]

I love Solitude, but Crystal Ball is my favorite from Epicus.

[Nostalgia]

I don't know too much of the genre. But I really like My Dying Bride, I have Turn loose the swans. Great album.

Would you consider them 'Traditional Doom?'

[Nepenthe]

I don't know too much of the genre. But I really like My Dying Bride, I have Turn loose the swans. Great album.

Would you consider them 'Traditional Doom?'

Nope. They have quite a bit of gothic touches.

[Nostalgia]

Yeah, you could say that.

[repcak]

what about Anathema (old one) thats not traditional doom is it?

i personally listen to doom, but i'm not the one who knows all the genres.
@Threadstarter: it would be great if you will make a list in your first post what bands can be referred as "Traditional doom".

[Freezing Moon]

My Dying Bride is Death/Doom

Anathema is Death/Doom as well, but the first album and EP's lean a bit more on the doom side.

@Threadstarter: it would be great if you will make a list in your first post what bands can be referred as "Traditional doom".
Okay, I will edit in a short section.

[Lord Abortion]

Could someone recommend me the best St.Vitus album to get?

Otherwise I'm going to go for Born too late.

[Freezing Moon]

Could someone recommend me the best St.Vitus album to get?

Otherwise I'm going to go for Born too late.
Born Too Late is great, I bought a copy of that a while ago.

The self-titled and V are also high quality traditonal doom. You really can't go wrong with any of those three.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, we can thank Steerpike for that one, his Spotlight introduced me to them, but I've only got a few Random tracks, I think I'll get Born too late and C.O.D..as the title track to that is ****ing anthemic.

[Stoic]

Anyone have Solstice's New Dark Age?

[Freezing Moon]

Anyone have Solstice's New Dark Age?
I do. I like it a lot.

[Stoic]

Could you send it to me if it's not too much of a problem? If not I'll definitely catch you on soulseek. ;)

[Freezing Moon]

Could you send it to me if it's not too much of a problem? If not I'll definitely catch you on soulseek. ;)
I change my name around on there a lot, right now it's "Aeothe Kaear".

Send me a PM so I can add you, I lost my userlist and your name a while back.

[Silenius]

I really like Solstice and Isole. (Both courtesy of Freezing Moon ;)).

[Daven]

I've been ñately listening to a lot of Candlemass. Epicus Doomicus Metallicus is amazingly good.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

The only Traditional Doom I really listen to is Candlemass. I really need some more

Nice thread, too.

[The Sandman]

I listen to Candlemass and Isole...I think that's it as far as doom metal goes.

Could anybody reccomend me a few essential doom metal cds?

[Werny]

Nope. They have quite a bit of gothic touches.

Not forgetting the fact that 2 songs on Swans are just violin and piano.

I've never really got into the traditional stuff, I'm more interested in the more extreme styles.

I like early Candlemass though and I liked a Saint Vitus song Steerpike sent my way.

[Jondur]

I listen to Candlemass and Isole...I think that's it as far as doom metal goes.

Could anybody reccomend me a few essential doom metal cds?

I could recommend you a few (hundred).

Here goes:

St Vitus - St Vitus, Born too Late, Hallows Victim
Trouble - The Skull, Trouble, Run to the Light
Solitude Aeturnus - Through the Darkest Hour, Into the Depths of Sorrow
Solstice - New Dark Age, Halcyon, Lamentations
Spiritus Mortis - Spiritus Mortis
While Heaven Wept - Of Empires Forlorn
Orodruin - Epicurian Mass
Penance - SpiritualNatural
the Gates of Slumber - The Awakening
Thee Plague of Gentlemen - Primula Pestis
Revelation - Frozen Masque , Yet so Far

That should do you for the time being.

[Lord Abortion]

Primula Pestis is a great album.

NP-Cathedral-Corpsecycle

[Freezing Moon]

Spiritus Mortis - Spiritus Mortis
I'll need to check this out. I've heard all the other bands, but not all the albums mentioned.

[Jondur]

Spiritus Mortis are ace. They take the NWOBHM influences of many epic doom bands that bit further! Great singer too.

For those of you who think that Messiah Marcolin's vocals are a bit too understated and restrained (??!!) - you should check out Dantesco! They're from Peurto Rico and sing in their own language - proper operatic warble stylee! It's good stuff.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Restrained is about the last thing I think of when I hear Messiah. He rules.

[Jondur]

Yeah - I was being sarcastic, but the guy from Dantesco is even more over the top!

[Lord Abortion]

Messiah is Godly.

The doomed for live album is superb vocally.

[Jondur]

Messiah is indeed godly but I wouldn't say he was the best doom singer. For me, that title belongs to Rob Lowe from Solitude Aeturnus. Honourable mentions also for Moz Ingram from Solstice, Tom Phillips from While Heaven Wept and Vesa Lampi from Spiritus Mortis.

[Riva]

Do we consider Electric Wizard to be Traditional Doom?

[Stoic]

nope. Electric Wizard are stoner.

[Riva]

Alrighty then.

Well, I've got Cathedral, Candlemass, Saint Vitus, Aardtmann Op Vuurtopberg, and Isole as the extent of my Doom metal knowledge.

[Jondur]

Aardtmann Op Vuurtopberg

What the hell? Funeral doom?

[Riva]

More Drone really, but they're listed on Metal-Archives as being Doom also.

Have I erred?

[Jondur]

In this thread - yes you have! More blasphemed to be honest!

Nah - we're trying to keep discussion limited to those bands that play doom in the traditional style - the other bands you mentioned are fine (well early Cathedral).

Out of interest - which would you say was your favourite from that list?

[Riva]

Yeah, I realise. I was just listing all my doom metal experiences, heh. I'm still new to the genre.

Oh, I do know of The River, also. ;)

I'd say that I enjoy Candlemass the most, though Saint Vitus is quite good.

[Jondur]

Obviously you know about The River, them being doom legends and all! (New album out soon btw - on Retribute Records).

Here's some suggestions for you seeing as you obviously like the more epic side of doom:

Solitude Aeturnus: Through the Darkest Hour
Solstice - New Dark Age
While Heaven Wept - Of Empires Forlorn
Spiritus Mortis - Spiritus Mortis

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yeah, I realise. I was just listing all my doom metal experiences, heh. I'm still new to the genre.
you have more than me :upset:

I do also have The River ;)

[Riva]

Thanks for the recommendations, Jon. I'll fire up Soulseek and check them out.

[Lord Abortion]

I have been listening to Saint Vitus for most of today.

Born too late and Children of Doom have become my favourite SV songs.

[Freezing Moon]

I've had the following recommended to me, can somebody clue me in on what is good and what isn't?

Mirror of Deception - Mirrorsoil, Foregone
Rising Dust - Rising Dust
Internal Void - Standing on the Sun, Unearthed, Matricide
Colossus - Demo 2003

NP: Warning - The Return

[Jondur]

From Mirror of Deception definitely get Foregone. It's much better than Mirrorsoil, although that was good in itself.

I think Rising Dust are ace. Some of the tracks on the album are a bit hit and miss but overall its a good album.

Internal Void are ace. I have Unearthed.

I've never heard Colossus - let us know what they're like.

[Freezing Moon]

I went to Colossus's website and it was more stoner metal, not what I was looking for.

Thanks for the recommendations on the others.

NP: Orodruin - Ascending Damnation

[AA-12]

Finding Solstice around here is a bitch. I'm going out to the local music shop that has great stuff this weekend though.

[Jondur]

Finding Solstice in a shop will be tricky anywhere. Use t'interweb!

Freezing Moon: Interesting enough there was another Colossus around at the same time. This one however featured one Messiah Marcolin on vox and was most definitely not stoner!

[Bartender]

There's so much around that seems to be difficult to find both in shops or the interweb.

Obviously you know about The River, them being doom legends and all! (New album out soon btw - on Retribute Records).


Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.

[Jondur]

Another doom thread dies :-(

There's a new track by The River up on MYspace.'Ave a listen. Sounds pretty good although obviously the drums aren't nearly as good nowadays!

[Freezing Moon]

I like the new track, but I am yet to hear the old stuff when you were in the band, Jondur. I'd like to hear it sometime, maybe I'll order the album online.

NP: Revelation - Within the Answer Lies

[Silenius]

Wait, Jondur used to be in The River? :eek:



/classic Baphomet Horde Avatar :cool:

[Riva]

Yeah, The River with Jon kicked arse.

EDIT: I keep thinking you're Bartender, Anton. :(

[Silenius]

Yeah, The River with Jon kicked arse.

EDIT: I keep thinking you're Bartender, Anton. :(
That's awesome. Hails to Jondur! \m/


I remember back when there were pages with just this avatar and at least 3 different posters.

[Riva]

I should probably restore Jon's since it's still distorted from the server change.

Ve Das and Legions don't post as much anymore. But at least you, Jon, Vortigon and Bartender are carrying on the proud tradition.

[Freezing Moon]

I used to have the baphomet avatar, but it never felt right since I wasn't around for the original clan.

[Silenius]

I should probably restore Jon's since it's still distorted from the server change.

Ve Das and Legions don't post as much anymore. But at least you, Jon, Vortigon and Bartender are carrying on the proud tradition.
Yes, and if I remember right HalfDeadHippo and Lefty also still have them although they post very rarely.

[Werny]

the other bands you mentioned are fine (well early Cathedral).


Early Cathedral is much less traditional than the new. Is not Forest Of Equilibrium (classic!) a death/doom record? Trad Doom didn't include growls last time I checked.

I got the Doom Special of Terrorizer, the doom compilation that comes with it is quite nice. I'm kinda liking the traditional doom now (I still think it shouldn't be called "doom", it's so happy and jolly! Take Reverend Bizarre for example!), but I don't think I could listen to a whole album. The fact that every traditional doom band is imitating and emulating Black Sabbath on purpose gets tiresome after a while.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, the first Cathedral album is possibly not Traditional doom, but TEE is.

[Jondur]

Wait, Jondur used to be in The River? :eek:



/classic Baphomet Horde Avatar :cool:

Name changes should be banned. Who were you? And yes I was in The River until April last year. I played on Different Ways to be Haunted.Chris, the guitarist, did the drums on the new record.

The Baphomet Horde should be resurrected!

[Jondur]

(I still think it shouldn't be called "doom", it's so happy and jolly! Take Reverend Bizarre for example!)

Let me guess (I' didn't buy it - Terrorizer is crap) the track was "Doom Over the World"? The least doomy track they've ever done. Try listening to Doomsower or Harbinger and saying it's jolly.

, The fact that every traditional doom band is imitating and emulating Black Sabbath on purpose gets tiresome after a while.

Now you're just trying to irritate me. :smash: For starters, there's no such thing as traditional doom. There's doom metal and then there's bands that might be influenced by doom metal. Unfortunately the world's gone a bit mad and the bands that may have some doom influences are termed doom metal and the real doom metal bands have to be labelled 'traditional' doom metal. So, traditional doom metal = doom metal

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Silenius used to be high_voltage_acdc.

[Werny]

Let me guess (I' didn't buy it - Terrorizer is crap) the track was "Doom Over the World"? The least doomy track they've ever done. Try listening to Doomsower or Harbinger and saying it's jolly.

,

Now you're just trying to irritate me. :smash: For starters, there's no such thing as traditional doom. There's doom metal and then there's bands that might be influenced by doom metal. Unfortunately the world's gone a bit mad and the bands that may have some doom influences are termed doom metal and the real doom metal bands have to be labelled 'traditional' doom metal. So, traditional doom metal = doom metal

Yes it was Doom Over The World. I still find Pentagram and Saint Vitus etc. all happy and hippy-ish.

I guess you could call some bands "traditional" because they purposefully stay true to the original doom bands (latin for they want to sound like Sabbath). But you're right, you can't really make a genre out of that.

[Jondur]

Maybe you're hearing something I'm not - but I faill to hear the happiness in Burial at Sea or I Bleed Black

[Silenius]

Maybe you're hearing something I'm not - but I faill to hear the happiness in Burial at Sea or I Bleed Black
Yes as already stated I was high_voltage_acdc (hence the name change :lol).


I should really listen to The River some more now, focusing on the drums. :)

The Baphomet Horde should be resurrected!
/joins

Too bad there aren't many people left from those days.

[Freezing Moon]

The Baphomet Horde should be resurrected!
Done.

Reverend Bizarre is great, I don't understand how they'd be considered "happy and jolly".

NP: Saint Vitus - White Magic/Black Magic

[Riva]

Yeah, I don't see the hippy side of St. Vitus, to be honest.

[Lord Abortion]

Well, Look behind you, for example describes the dress usually associated with hippies...but it's a little part of the genre, really... certainly the more traditional (alright...Sabbath like) bands tend to have a little hippie side, not too much, and not in a gay way, but just a little.

[Jondur]

Vitus started as a hardcore band. As did the Obsessed. Gorerotted are more hippyish than Vitus.

Basically you're saying, any kind of groove=hippy? Crap.

Been listening to Pentagram "Be Forewarned" today. Talk about hippyish and happy - the guitar tone on this record could take your head clean off.

[Lord Abortion]

Gorerotted are more hippyish than Vitus.
Actually, you aren't far wrong there.


Basically you're saying, any kind of groove=hippy? Crap.
Oh no, you misunderstand, I'm saying some of the lyrical themes take elements from stereotypical hippie culture.

[Jondur]

While you may be write that some of the lyrics may hark back to the 70s (maybe due to a love of Sabbath) there's also plenty of lyrics covering death, zombies, more death, giving two fingers to society etc. Vitus are ace and I won't hear anything against em!

[Werny]

I just find the 70's style vocals, fuzzy guitar and groove of Trad Doom to be very happy. Or maybe the tracks I've heard were the least depressive ones so the readers of Terrorizer wouldn't be scared off (they DID put a really jolly Cathedral song on there).

For the record;
With the exception of Electric Funeral and Black Sabbath, I find Black Sabbath a very happy and fun band and they always put a smile on my face. And I consider Skepticism uplifting (in that beastly power way).

[ATM]

Hey guys, I posted it in the community thread, but I thought I'd share it here.

Wino came into the store I work at a few days ago :-D

[Freezing Moon]

death, zombies, more death, giving two fingers to society etc.

Doesn't get much better than that!

[Jondur]

Hey guys, I posted it in the community thread, but I thought I'd share it here.

Wino came into the store I work at a few days ago :-D

That's cool! What was he after? Beer and smokes?

[Lord Abortion]

While you may be write that some of the lyrics may hark back to the 70s (maybe due to a love of Sabbath) there's also plenty of lyrics covering death, zombies, more death, giving two fingers to society etc. Vitus are ace and I won't hear anything against em!
Zombies?
Now we're talking!

Point taken, and I wouldn't disparage Vitus at all, and if you took my mentioning suh themes as such, then it's not what I intended. The band are awesome.

[Bartender]

Hey guys, I posted it in the community thread, but I thought I'd share it here.

Wino came into the store I work at a few days ago :-D

That is fairly awesome.

[Moses]

Hey guys, I posted it in the community thread, but I thought I'd share it here.

Wino came into the store I work at a few days ago :-D
Sweet.

[Lord Abortion]

I would suggest beer and Smokes...

Jon, what River album did you play on?

[Jondur]

Different Ways to Be Haunted. Chris (guitars) did the drums on the new one. I was hoping to do it but circumstances got in the way.

I hear you're doing a doom band now? Proper doom? Or slow death metal? Is your average song title along the lines of "Weeping sadly under a crimson moon as the long-lost love dies slowly"?

[Lord Abortion]

Different Ways to Be Haunted. Chris (guitars) did the drums on the new one. I was hoping to do it but circumstances got in the way.

I hear you're doing a doom band now? Proper doom? Or slow death metal? Is your average song title along the lines of "Weeping sadly under a crimson moon as the long-lost love dies slowly"?
Hah, hell no.

I'm wanting to go along the lines of proper doom, lyrically, I would say we were more Dio-era Sabbath. But since we just formed up again, and since only myself and the drummer survive from the previous lineup, it's a whole new band, really, and we haven't put music to the lyrics yet.
My vocals are clean, depite me being better at death metal vocals, but they are brutal death, not more melodic that the kind of band that would be would include, so even if I was in that sort of band, it wouldn't be appropriate.

[Tyler]

Do the Obsessed count as traditional doom?

Somebody should upload a Pentagram album for the daily upload maybe...

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Somebody should upload a Pentagram album for the daily upload maybe...
I second this.

I check out Saint Vitus - V today. It's great stuff.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I'm waiting until I get some money again, then going on a Doom spree.
I'm hoping to finish off my Cathedral collection, get some Saint Vitus, and Get Nightfall by Candlemass.

[rhcp pman]

Yeah, I'm waiting until I get some money again, then going on a Doom spree.
I'm hoping to finish off my Cathedral collection, get some Saint Vitus, and Get Nightfall by Candlemass.
Definitely get Nightfall, it's a very very good album. But I guess you've probably heard it already?

[Freezing Moon]

Nightfall is one of the best albums ever made, in any genre.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

'Tis a great album.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I checked out Solstice - New Dark Age today.

awesome awesome awesome

[rhcp pman]

Today my new find is Orodruin - I just listened to their Claw Tower and Other Tales of Terror compilation. They seem like a pretty good band.

What do you guys think of Lacrimas Profundere? They started out as doom/goth metal and changed to goth rock over time. I just checked out their album, La Naissance d'Un Reve and it seems good. It's nice to have a violin and a harp in it as well.

For a bit of trivia on the side, Lacrimas Profundere is a German band on a Swiss Label with a Latin band name releasing an album with a French title.

[Lord Abortion]

I have a couple of songs from Nightfall, but I only have EDM and the self titled...I have Doomed for live, too, which is great. Solitude live is amazing...ditto Bewitched.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Nightfall is beyond awesome, especially Well Of Souls.

[Jondur]

Today my new find is Orodruin - I just listened to their Claw Tower and Other Tales of Terror compilation. They seem like a pretty good band.

That's a compilation of demos. Check out their debut album "Epicurian Mass" - A truly, great, great, great album! One of the best modern doom metal albums (ie not released in the 80s!)

What do you guys think of Lacrimas Profundere?

I think they're crap

[Nepenthe]

Guys, I need stuff that sounds similar to Thergothon. I've had Stream From The Heavens for ages now, and just gave it my first listen, and I ****in love it. Any suggestions for bands similar to them would be awesome. And I don't really know any bands from the genre, so I probably haven't heard anything you'll name. The only three bands that I've really gotten into are Candlemass, Doomsword, and Katatonia.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Get Skepticism for something similar to Thergothon even though this is for Trad Doom omgggg :mad:

For some trad bands try:

Reverend Bizarre
Orodruin
Solstice
Saint Vitus
Pentagram
The Obsessed
Trouble

I got some Solitude Aeturnus today :cool:

[pate]

Well, any Funeral Doom, since they basically invented it. But Funeral, Reclusiam, Funerary Dirge, Pantheist, Tyranny, Pantheist, Solicide, Comatose Vigil, Beprasmybe, Mistress of the Dead, and Consummatum Est would work.

And some more regular doom bands you should check out:
Solitude Aeturnus
Reverend Bizarre
Witchfinder General
Cathedral
The Sword
Sahg

[pate]

I got some Solitude Aeturnus today :cool:


Hell yes. Amazing band, one of the best.

Which one(s) did you get?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Beyond The Crimson Horizon

[Nepenthe]

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'll be sure to check these out when I get up tomorrow.

even though this is for Trad Doom omgggg

Excuuuuse me

[rhcp pman]

Guys, I need stuff that sounds similar to Thergothon. I've had Stream From The Heavens for ages now, and just gave it my first listen, and I ****in love it. Any suggestions for bands similar to them would be awesome. And I don't really know any bands from the genre, so I probably haven't heard anything you'll name. The only three bands that I've really gotten into are Candlemass, Doomsword, and Katatonia.
You'll probably like:

* Pantheist - O Solitude
* Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet (all of their albums are good)
* Nortt - These guys are doomy and black metalish.
* Wormphlegm
* Comatose Vigil
* Cathedral - these guys aren't funeral doom unlike the above ones, but still great.

[pate]

Beyond The Crimson Horizon

Their best IMO. ****ing classic album.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yeah, it's awesome.

np: Reverend Bizarre - Burn in Hell! "In The Rectory of The Bizarre Reverend"

[Jondur]

Have been seriously dooming to the excellent Rising Dust. I recommend this to anyone with even half decent musical taste.

[Jondur]

Good news: New Orodruin album is planned soon!
Bad news: Thee Plague of Gentlemen split.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Good news: New Orodruin album is planned soon!
AWESOME.

Epicurean Mass is fantastic. I still need to get that demo compilation.

[Lord Abortion]

Bad news: Thee Plague of Gentlemen split.
Ah, damnit, those guys were great.
Primula Pestis is an excellent album.

[Werny]

* Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet (all of their albums are good)


Stormcrowfleet is nothing compared to their other albums, though. Lead & Aether is where it's at.

I'm loving Cathedral's new one now. So damn catchy!

[pate]

I'm loving Cathedral's new one now. So damn catchy!

Hell yeah. Good album.

[Lord Abortion]

I think Corpsecycle is probably the best song they have ever written.

[pate]

Eh, I'd still have to go with Hopkins.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

np: The Gates of Slumber - The Awakening

This is a really good album. I've also been listening to plenty of Nightfall today.

[Jondur]

For some reason, even though I love "The Awakening", I haven't managed to get any of their more recent stuff. I know there's an EP, a 12" and a new album so I should really break into the piggy bank! Great band though - saw them at Doom Shall Rise and they were stunningly good.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

They released a new album about a month ago, too.

[Freezing Moon]

All I've got is The Awakening. I listen to it regularly though.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

It's awesome.

I'm loving Witchfinder General at the moment, also.

[pate]

Witchfinder General are SO good.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yeah, Death Penalty is awesome.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Here are some Revelation downloads, guys:

http://www.againstnature.us/BH/Artists/Revelation/Revelation.htm

There is a few bootlegs, and all their albums. :)

[Jondur]

Take advantage of that link people! God know's how many hours I spent searching for a copy of Salvations Answer. Yet So Far is still my favourite though.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yet So Far is awesome.

[Lord Abortion]

Um, how do you download them?
I just get taken to the individual tracks, that you have to listen to on Quicktime, not actually download.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I get taken to where it lists the individual tracks, then I can download them in mp3 :confused:

[Lord Abortion]

Got it, just had to save link:)
Firefox ftw.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

:thumb:

It's great stuff.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I got Thee Plague of Gentlemen - Primula Pestis last night. It's great stuff, shame they broke up.

Also, I was looking on their M-A page and I noticed their frontman has been convicted of child rape, which is apparently why they broke up :eek:

[pate]

Yeah, that happened just a few weeks ago. IT's a shame.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I got the Minotauri/Reverend Bizarre split earlier. Awesome stuff, especially Reverend Bizarre's song.

[pate]

Reverend Bizarre is a truly great band. It's a shame they're breaking up.

[Stoic]

breaking up? Why? :(

[Txus]

I'm getting into Doom at the moment, before I was just listening to St. Vitus and Candlemass but now I've been getting into:

Revelation
Doomsword
Reverend Bizarre
The Gates of Slumber
Solitude Aeternus
Isole

I'm starting to LOVE this genre :cool:

[pate]

breaking up? Why? :(

No idea. I read a review of a show they played at from like a month ago, and it said it was their last day as a band or something.

Solitude Aeturnus, Reverend Bizarre, and Isole are very excellent choices to get into.

I would recommend some new doom bands to you: Sahg and the Sword.

[Txus]

I will look into them, thanks.

I'm loving the album Let Battle Commence by Doomsword this days, it's a masterpiece.

[pate]

You may have heard some bad things about The Sword. They get lumped in with the "hipster metal" label by the media, and their guitarist looks like a little emo kid, but they are 100% pure doom brilliance.

Sahg is made up of two former members of Gorgoroth, including King Ov Hell. They sound like early Sabbath, but with a good singer.

[Txus]

Sahg sounds good even though I can't stand Gorgoroth I'll look into them, the same with The Sword.

[Stoic]

I listened to a Sahg song the other day. Pretty moody and atmospheric still NOT the kind of doom I like (Candlemass, Doomsword, slower Slough Feg, Solstice). As for The Sword, I had checked them our after Riva's recommendation but didnt like them too much :-\

I want slow and barbaric doom with rough vocals and glorious epic feeling :evil:

[pate]

I would at times call both The Sword and Sahg epic.

[Txus]

I've never heard of Solstice, are they worthy my HD space?

[Freezing Moon]

The only Solstice I've got is New Dark Age. What else have they done that I should hear?

NP: Reverend Bizarre - Apocalyptic Riders

What an amazing song... these guys are top notch.

[Stoic]

Jondur worships Solstice's New Dark Age. This pretty much says everything :p

[Txus]

I can't find that album, can anyone send it to me please? :D

[Stoic]

I got it from Tyler, his soulseek speed owns.

[Txus]

I don't have/can't use soulseek at the moment.....I have to wait 1 week to use Soulseek and Torrents again (HD problem) :(

[Apocalyptic Raids]

New Dark Age is great.

I am worshipping Reverend Bizarrre at the moment. \m/

np: Reverend Bizarre - The Hour of Death "In The Rectory of The Bizarre Reverend"

[pate]

Reverend Bizarre is great, but Solitude Aeturnus is so much greater.

NP: SA

[Jondur]

The only Solstice I've got is New Dark Age. What else have they done that I should hear?
.

There's also another full length album "Lamentations" and an EP "Halcyon". Both are extremely good. They are more traditional epic doom metal (along the lines of Solitude Aeturnus) than NDA but they are still essential.

[rhcp pman]

There's also another full length album "Lamentations" and an EP "Halcyon". Both are extremely good. They are more traditional epic doom metal (along the lines of Solitude Aeturnus) than NDA but they are still essential.
Halcyon is a very good album.

Lately I've been listening to a lot of Amorphis - not traditional metal... but whatever.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I like Amorphis' Privilege of Evil EP, though that's DM.

[Daven]

Revelation is awesome. Currently im in the search for some Sloitude Aeturnus since a friend recommended it to me.

[pate]

I can email you links to their first two albums.

[Txus]

Can you send me the link also :D

I only have Through The Darkest Hour.

Txus.mx (at) gmail.com

[pate]

Check your inbox.

[Txus]

:eek: That was fast, thanks a bunch.

[pate]

No problem.

I like Beyond the Crimson Horizon more than Through The Darkest Hour, but both own.

[Daven]

Pate, can i have the links for the albums please. :)

daven.mx at gmail.com

[pate]

Check your inbox.

[Daven]

Thanks man.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Beyond The Crimson Horizon is awesome.

[pate]

Hell yeah. It may well be my favorite doom album. It's top 5 no question.

[Daven]

I've listened to it only one time, but i liked what i heard.

[pate]

You should give it more listens.


...ok, I will!

NP: Solitude Aeturnus - Seeds of the Desolate

[Daven]

I will! But yesterday i checked it out and then went to sleep.

[pate]

Haha. Gotcha.

[Txus]

Wow, this album is really good Pate. Thanks man.

[pate]

No problem. They are one of the most unknown and underapreciated bands on the planet. Only 1,200 last.fm listeners...ridiculous.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

No problem. They are one of the most unknown and underapreciated bands on the planet. Only 1,200 last.fm listeners...ridiculous.
Doom in general is underappreciated.

[Jondur]

Absolutely, and for the 1200 who listen to Solitude Aeturnus, only half of that will listen to Solstice, and even fewer to Millarca or Well of Soulds and so on.

To cheer us all up the new Against Nature is available for free download on their website.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Excellent.

np: The Obsessed - To Protect And To Serve "The Church Within"

The start riff in this song = sex

[Poofy 666]

Has anyone heard the new Isole? I'm thinking about buying it. Hopefully its at least as good as Forevermore.

[Jondur]

Excellent.

np: The Obsessed - To Protect And To Serve "The Church Within"

The start riff in this song = sex

I love that song! In fact there's times that I prefer The Obsessed to Vitus!:eek:

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I love that song! In fact there's times that I prefer The Obsessed to Vitus!
:eek:

Has anyone heard the new Isole? I'm thinking about buying it. Hopefully its at least as good as Forevermore.
Nah, I've only heard Forevermore. It's pretty good.

[Jondur]

Have you guys heard Rising Dust? If not I can highly recommend them!

[Werny]

EDITED: whoops, this is the Trad thread.

Er...
Anyone else love Lamented Souls?

[Jondur]

EDITED: whoops, this is the Trad thread.

Er...
Anyone else love Lamented Souls?

Edited just in time!!! I was ready with the :smash:

And yes I do love Lamented Souls. The vocals are just sublime.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I remember you mentioning Rising Dust. I'll have to check that out.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm going to have to get some Cathedral mid-period albums.

Endtyme and Caravan Beyond Redmption are needed, methinks.

Stillhaven't got TCB either, my order got canceled both times I ordered it.

[the2stranger]

EDITED: whoops, this is the Trad thread.

Er...
Anyone else love Lamented Souls?
I have always been curious about them, yet never checked them out.
I wonder how Simen's voice works out in a doom band.

Aren't they releasing a full length soon?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I just got The Wizar'd's EP, Follow The Wizard. It's pretty good so far :D

[pate]

Stillhaven't got TCB either, my order got canceled both times I ordered it.

Oh no. It's my favorite Cathedral album.

[Freezing Moon]

I have been meaning to check out Rising Dust for a couple months now, heh. I'll have to get around to it soon.

np: Bells of Doom - Funeral of the Wizard

[AA-12]

New Isole I hear? I can't wait to get that.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I got some Place of Skulls yesterday, awesome stuff.

[Lord Abortion]

/Downloads Reverend Bizzare album.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Damn right you will!

np: Place Of Skulls - Nailed

[pate]

/Downloads Reverend Bizzare album.

Enjoy :thumb:

[Jondur]

I have always been curious about them, yet never checked them out.
I wonder how Simen's voice works out in a doom band.



It works really well. He sings in Norwegian which adds to the slightly bonkers quality of his voice.

Highly recommended.

[Werny]

I have always been curious about them, yet never checked them out.
I wonder how Simen's voice works out in a doom band.

Aren't they releasing a full length soon?

You have no idea how good they are man. Simen has the voice of an angel. He has this really sweet low end sometimes, and also gets a bit agro when they rock out. There's a reason why he's my favourite vocalist!

But that's not the end of it. The production is reverberated to the max. The riffs are just majesty incarnate, some of my favourite doom riffs in Essence of Wounds and Demon Baby. And when they rock out, it's marvelous.

And, oddly enough, they never sound like Sabbath for a second.

About Cathedral...Endtyme is shocking from the songs I've heard. Billy Anderson completely bummed out on the production, it's so plain, thin and boring. And they just repeat the Sabbath formula for every song, it gets painfully annoying (well Melancholy Emperor swaps it up by going from fast to slow instead of the other way around *rolls eyes*). Don't get me started on Lee's vocals...silly vocals are good for the upbeat stuff but not for doom, I say.

Requiem for the Sun has a really gorgeous chorus though.

[the2stranger]

It works really well. He sings in Norwegian which adds to the slightly bonkers quality of his voice.

Highly recommended.
Good, I love his voice, so that won't be the slightest problem for me. :cool:

You have no idea how good they are man. Simen has the voice of an angel. He has this really sweet low end sometimes, and also gets a bit agro when they rock out. There's a reason why he's my favourite vocalist!

But that's not the end of it. The production is reverberated to the max. The riffs are just majesty incarnate, some of my favourite doom riffs in Essence of Wounds and Demon Baby. And when they rock out, it's marvelous.

And, oddly enough, they never sound like Sabbath for a second.

About Cathedral...Endtyme is shocking from the songs I've heard. Billy Anderson completely bummed out on the production, it's so plain, thin and boring. And they just repeat the Sabbath formula for every song, it gets painfully annoying (well Melancholy Emperor swaps it up by going from fast to slow instead of the other way around *rolls eyes*). Don't get me started on Lee's vocals...silly vocals are good for the upbeat stuff but not for doom, I say.

Requiem for the Sun has a really gorgeous chorus though.
Good good.
I might check them out!

Simen is your favorite vocalist?
Mine is Garm.
Just love his voice.

[Lord Abortion]

Hmm, I'll listen to a couple of Endtyme songs

[pate]

Endtyme is pretty weak IMO.

[Nepenthe]

Any Warhorse fans? If not, some need to be made. They are great.

[the2stranger]

Assuming this is about the old school doom band and not the stoner band;
They have a pretty bad rating at M-A :confused:.

I'm curious, do you have any samples by chance?

[Nepenthe]

Those reviews are terrible. Two of them are only a paragraph haha. And yeah, I'll upload the full length for you later tonight.

[the2stranger]

Thank you very much!

M-A can be a good source for reviews, but sometimes they are terrible, multi review reading before judging ftw!

[Nepenthe]

I never let MA reviews affect if I check something out or not. I only use them as a guideline for what the band sounds like.

[the2stranger]

I hate it that M-A doesn't have any guidelines for reviews, any dude can just write a review, some not even being longer than a few lines.
I respect people who give a bad rating to an album but write a decent and long review about it.

[Nepenthe]

Yeah, there's alot of idiots on MA. I hate when it's obvious that the reviewer knows absolutely nothing about the type of music he's reviewing.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, most reviews on there are stupid.

[the2stranger]

Indeed, I'd rather have some good recommendations from MX people, atleast than I know they have agood tatse and are knowledgeable about the genre.

[pate]

Indeed, I'd rather have some good recommendations from MX people, atleast than I know they have agood tatse and are knowledgeable about the genre.

Indeed. The average MXican/R&Mer > The average m-a reviewer

[the2stranger]

Indeed. The average MXican/R&Mer > The average m-a reviewer
True!
EDIT:
I'm going to bed.

Anthony if you still want to uplaod the full length I'd like to recieve it too.
my email is
peter_time@hotmail.com

Thanks a lot in advance.

[Freezing Moon]

Warning - The Strength to Dream is quality trad.doom. I hadn't listened to it much before, but am listening again now and it's quite good.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

You just need to know who the good reviewers at MA are and who the crap ones are.

[AlienEater]

Any Warhorse fans? If not, some need to be made. They are great.

I love them.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I finally checked out Rising Dust - Rising Dust. It's a great album.

[pate]

Hmm. I'll have to check them out.

[Poofy 666]

I just got the new Isole. Its pretty good so far...

[Apocalyptic Raids]

np: The Gates of Slumber - The Awakening

Awesome album. Apparently they have a new album out, I need it.

[Jondur]

Warning - The Strength to Dream is quality trad.doom. I hadn't listened to it much before, but am listening again now and it's quite good.

That is an amzing album. I saw Warning last year and I'd easily rank it as one of the best gigs I've ever seen!

Even with only one album and a handful of demos Warning are still a worthy addition to the pantheon of doom metal greats. Crushing riffs, fantastic lyrics and great vocals that boast a fragility that belies the fact that the singer is 6 foot 7!

[Nepenthe]

Ok Petey, I promise to upload it this weekend :lol:

Wait, what cd is this hahaha?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I'll have to track down some Warning!

[rhcp pman]

Yes indeed. Warning is some great doom.

[Freezing Moon]

So I checked out Rising Dust and they're indeed very good.

I'm going to order that new album by The River tomorrow or the next day.

I wrote some doom riffs this afternoon. I might make them into a song and record, but we'll see.

np: Rising Dust - Doom Revelation

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I also wrote some Doom riffs and recorded one.

At my rate, expect another riff in about a year.

[I Follow Jono Like A Dog]

I also wrote some Doom riffs and recorded one.

At my rate, expect another riff in about a year.
That sounds pretty slow and doomful.

You want to post that riff for us?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Not really, it's only one riff.

[I Follow Jono Like A Dog]

Not really, it's only one riff.
We'll be left longing for more and that's so doom!

[Apocalyptic Raids]

No.

[I Follow Jono Like A Dog]

Why not

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I got Warning's The Strength To Dream yesterday, it's great stuff.

I really need to order The River's debut, also :(

[Freezing Moon]

Don't worry, I still haven't gotten around it it either. :-\

That Warning album is indeed great.

[Lord Abortion]

I've been listening to alot of Revelation recently.

[Freezing Moon]

...Yet So Far has been getting lots of play time from me recently as well.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I need to listen to ...Yet So Far more, I've not paid much attention to it to be honest.

[Txus]

Are there any Walls Of Sleep fans in here?

I recently discovered them and they're really good.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I haven't heard them.

[Poofy 666]

I have a link for Slow, But Not Dead and Sun Faced Apostles if you want.

NP: Isole - Green Demon

[Txus]

Using Metalarea I suposse :p

They're really freaking good.

[Poofy 666]

haha yeah :p

I'm downloading both of them righ now

[Txus]

I liked Sun Faced Apostles a little more, I still need to give the other one a good listen though.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Okay Poofy, send whichever one is better :p

jonhislop@gmail.com

[Poofy 666]

I'll send you both :-)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

thanks :-)

[Silenius]

/is liking Mournful Congregation these days.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

GO BACK TO THE OTHER DOOM THREAD FAG :mad:

Good band

[Jondur]

I got an All Souls Day EP off someone here (don't ask me who - I can't keep up with all these usernames! I imagine it was probably Freezing Moon but don't wuote me on that).

It's great stuff - highly recommended.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

It was probably Freezing Moon. If you downloaded something off me you would remember because it would have taken about 3 hours.

Then again, you are rather old. :D

Poofy: That Wall of Sleep isn't too bad, thanks.

[Jondur]

Then again, you are rather old. :D


:smash:

Can we stop with the Jondur is old stuff. I'm 28. [protesting too much] That's not old. I'm in the prime of my life. [/protesting too much]

Anyway baldness is a sign of virility.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

:p

Ah, I always thought you were early thirties. Maybe I am thinking of Legions.

[Jondur]

Nah - he's younger than me. Probably 26 or something?

Anyway being a bit older means I've seen bands that had long split up by the time you young uns got into them!

Put it this way - when I first saw Metallica, they were still good!