10,000 days

[Sound Boy]

im sorry to post in the indie forum. but this album has my vote for best so far this year. its been on repeat the past six days. i'd have to say some of this is their best work to date.

killer tracks (to name a few):
The Pot
Right in Two
Vicarious

[I Was A Kaleidoscope]

I like Intension the best.

[Little Man being Erased]

I'm looking forward to hearing it. I'll probably pick it up this weekend.

[Aryeth]

Right in Two is an awesome song, I love the woodblocks.

[Clunge]

I be liking Jambi lots and lots at the mo.

[Kyle]

Anyone feel like uploading this for the Mailing List?

I've only heard the single off the album, I was suprised at how much I liked it. I've always found Tool quite boring (whilst liking the drumming), but am up for having my mind changed.

[Shadius]

Buy it. It's worth it for the artwork.

[TheBigPK]

Anyone feel like uploading this for the Mailing List?

I've only heard the single off the album, I was suprised at how much I liked it. I've always found Tool quite boring (whilst liking the drumming), but am up for having my mind changed.
Eh? Tools boring?? check Lateralus that album rocks.. Parabola is amazing, i thought. Ya i need to buy this one still tho. You guys might wanna take a look at the Die Eer Von Tool thread in the Rock forums too..

[DanD]

Anyone feel like uploading this for the Mailing List?

I've only heard the single off the album, I was suprised at how much I liked it. I've always found Tool quite boring (whilst liking the drumming), but am up for having my mind changed.
If you thought earlier Tool is boring, then you're going to be asleep by the end of this record.

[TheBigPK]

Hmm.. that mean this one's slow, or repetative...? Why's it boring?

[Futuro]

Great drumming on this album. I was impressed.

[Kurrpt]

hey futuro, you wanna start learning the drums for vicarious? I got most of the guitar work done

[Sound Boy]

im working on all the basslines right now. Justin kicks arse

[Robert Crumb]

I'm buying this today.

[Futuro]

hey futuro, you wanna start learning the drums for vicarious? I got most of the guitar work done
Hey, sure man. I'll see what I can do with recording equipment. I jam to the song alot. :cool:

[Kyle]

Eh? Tools boring?? check Lateralus that album rocks.. Parabola is amazing, i thought. Ya i need to buy this one still tho. You guys might wanna take a look at the Die Eer Von Tool thread in the Rock forums too..I havn't heard all that much to be honest Which is why I can't really judge them), but I remember hearing The Grudge and being bored to pieces.

[Kurrpt]

Hey, sure man. I'll see what I can do with recording equipment. I jam to the song alot. :cool:


awesome. Same with me. I have a fantastic setup, but i have had VERY little experience in terms of using a condensor mic to mic my cab

[Kurrpt]

im working on all the basslines right now. Justin kicks arse



well, friggin sweet, thats 3/4 of the song right there ;thumb:

[Tomahawk]

I think it's their worst album, by far. I was really disappointed. Way too much boring ambient moany filler crap (even by Tool standards). And even the rockin' parts aren't that great. Plus, there's some really lame lyrics.

But yeah the cover art is awesome.

[Kurrpt]

sorry to hear that, but i would say if you are a huge fan, that sucks for you

[Clunge]

To be honest, it's my favourite of Tool's work.

I find most of their early work boring/repetetive but 10,000 Days isn't like that for me at all.

[YDload]

I was disappointed that Tool isn't actually progressing as a band. They will pretty much always be a hard rock/grunge band with longer songs, which is fine if that's the sound you like. But still, at least Justin has improved his playing and creation of basslines immensely, and Danny Carey's drumming is still some of the best in mainstream music today. They made a good album, but in the overall scheme of Tool, it hasn't really built on their expectations to make "new" music.

[incubliss]

Lateralus is still my favourite album by them, and possibly of all time. I think that album is perfect.

While I do love this album, it's not a huge stepup. There's a few different things they've been working on, but it feels similar to the older stuff. I sort of like the familiarity though, and it's working for me at the moment.

I haven't stopped listening to it since I got it on the leak like, a week ago.

[ThaFleastyler]

I love 10,000 Days. My favourite song is The Pot - sheer brilliance.

Although, I gotta say that I'm not hearing the lame lyrics or the lack of growth a lot of people are hearing - for me, this is a change to their earlier stuff. Its morphed enough that its not Lateralus Pt 2, but a genuine move in a new (while parallel) direction.

[YDload]

It sounds exactly like Lateralus, part 2. I don't see any real growth other than some stray electronics and whatever Maynard may have learned from APC. The only difference is that there's no song as brilliant as Parabola on it.

[Wanker]

I don't see any real growth other than some stray electronics and whatever Maynard may have learned from APC.

Yeah, I agree. A lot of the album sounds like APC mixed with Tool. I'm not sure I like it much. At all.

[ThaFleastyler]

... agree to disagree?
;)

[Wanker]

No.

[Sound Boy]

Maynard is being more straight forward with his lyrics. i think thats why they come off a lil less thoughtfull as previous works. But i agree with YDLoad about their non progression. and they play a lil too dark for Danny to really showcase his talent. but i still love this album as much as any other tool album

[italic zero]

Maybe they need a new guitarist.

[dirtybass]

bought this cd today and im in love with it. theres some really good basslines in it, and the artwork is awesome.

[PinkFreud]

I got the leak the day it came out and listened to it a little. To be honest, the only song that I still listen to from it is Vicarious. The rest is all utterly uninteresting besides some tiny parts like the bassline to The Pot and some of the drumming. Otherwise, it doesn't hold my attention at all. Kind of a let down.

[I Was A Kaleidoscope]

The bassline from Intension is the best one on the album IMO...it's probably why I like that song. It's addictive.

[neighborhood fascist]

Oh great, another Tool album. We don't already have enough of these.

Let's stop listening to fag metal or whatever you want to call these dickheads.

[Little Man being Erased]

Oh great, another Tool album. We don't already have enough of these.

Let's stop listening to fag metal or whatever you want to call these dickheads.
Oh great, sarcasm. We don't already have enough of that.

Let's stop listening to fag posters or whatever you call this dickhead.

[neighborhood fascist]

Oh great, sarcasm. We don't already have enough of that.

Let's stop listening to fag posters or whatever you call this dickhead.
Quit being a fag.

[Kyle]

Quit being a fag.Quit being such a Dei.

I'm still really excited about seeing the Chillis, it's just after my exams finished so it's an excuse to have a big party.

[charolastra]

i only liked 'intension'. everything else was so-so for my ears

[andrewk2286]

I think its a great album that you have to let grow on you. Your not gonna listen to it once and get it. You have to continue listening to it and you will hear things in this album that you might not of seen before. I think this album is better than what people think

[Tomahawk]

Although, I gotta say that I'm not hearing the lame lyrics
They're not all over the place, but there's some select stuff that just annoys the crap outta me. Like, the one that goes "you must have been hiiiiiiiiiiiiigh". I just think it sounds dumb.

But I think the worst is the one about "those humans" or "those silly monkeys" who don't know what to do with free will. It just seems so incredibly pretentious to me. I understand the point and all (it's from an outsiders perspective, sure), but jeez, get off the ****ing pedestal guys.

[Reywas]

It's all a hoax

[clearvision]

LOL.

The album lacks flow, substance in the latter half and also progression from lateralus. For these reasons it dissapoints me. It's not bad, but from tool i'd expect better.

3.5/5

(I've posted this post about 10 time sin differnet places, i'm sure lol)

[Kurrpt]

eh, i like it

[Neoteric]

LOL.

The album lacks flow, substance in the latter half and also progression from lateralus. For these reasons it dissapoints me. It's not bad, but from tool i'd expect better.

3.5/5

(I've posted this post about 10 time sin differnet places, i'm sure lol)
I totally agree with you.

[neighborhood fascist]

Quit being such a Dei.
But dei is synonymous with awesome.

[YDload]

i think dei and "neighborhood fascist" are both NPC gimmick accounts.

not that you have to be NPC to hate a new Tool album. it would definitely be pretty boring for most people, I would think.

[neighborhood fascist]

NPC?

I will not get caps filtered.

[Iai]

Buy it. It's worth it for the artwork.
Truth. I just bought it, and the packaging is some of the best I've ever seen.

As for the album, large chunks of it are just there without really doing anything. Maybe it needs to grow on me. I'll tell you this, though - Zappa would hate it.

[YDload]

I think they spent five years just putting together a new packaging design. And it really is impressive, I wish I could buy it separately and just download the album instead!

[ThaFleastyler]

You can! Its called Magic Eye, and theres a series of about 5 of them books. But you don't need the goggles!

My sister and I were laughing about that - maybe Tool had the songs all left over from the Lateralus recording sessions and they just left it 5 years to give them time to do the packaging and make it seem like they were recording?

[clearvision]

I'm a pretty big tool fan. I wouldn't have said it has grown on me, it's just i can now actually listen to it without feeling dissapointed.

I was waiting to hear your comments on the album Nick, sadly, they weren't as contraversial is i'd hoped :(

[YDload]

You can! Its called Magic Eye, and theres a series of about 5 of them books. But you don't need the goggles!

There's a huge difference between Magic Eye pictures and stereoscopic pictures. The former is made on a computer and can't be deciphered "as is." What Tool did is use a very old technology that relies on depth and binocular vision.

[LostInTheBoom]

As with any of Tool's music, there is no middle ground...either you love it or you hate it.

[neighborhood fascist]

I think they spent five years just putting together a new packaging design. And it really is impressive, I wish I could buy it separately and just download the album instead!
Who is this NPC?

[pixiesfanyo]

It's pretty much like everything else they've released, overly pretentious, really freakin' long, and boring.

I mean at least the Mars Volta make interesting music to go along with how pretentious it is. Plus they seem like real people, unlike Tool who are a bunch of monks who think they are above everything.

[Kurrpt]

i dont see how you could argue TOoL as anything but genuine. It must just be your way of classifying your dislike of the band

[ThaFleastyler]

There's a huge difference between Magic Eye pictures and stereoscopic pictures.
My bad :D

[incubliss]

I havn't heard all that much to be honest Which is why I can't really judge them), but I remember hearing The Grudge and being bored to pieces.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4350775084934423500&q=tool+concert&pl=true

Skip to 11 minutes, and wait for The Grudge to kick in. I don't ever get bored of The Grudge.

[Iai]

I was waiting to hear your comments on the album Nick, sadly, they weren't as contraversial is i'd hoped :(
Sorry to disappoint. :(

[Futuro]

Plus they seem like real people, unlike Tool who are a bunch of monks who think they are above everything.Danny is a soft spoken person, very nice.

Watch this interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X00JInTTkM

I understand if your talking about maynard, But the whole band doesn't have to act like a front man.

[YDload]

I think you misunderstood what pixiesfan meant by "a bunch of monks who are above everything." Maynard's behavior (hiding in the shadows during live shows) is actually a big part of that aura of mystery that surrounds the band.

However, this album's packaging is a huge leap forward because it actually includes clear, explicit photos of each of the band members! I had no idea what they looked like for the longest time (although Maynard was in some very visible side projects and Adam did some stuff for Guitar magazine).

[Adam Jones is GOD]

How could you have not known what Danny looks like?! The guys visible from space

And from reading reviews from the first few shows, it seems MJK is now doing the more stereotypical lead singer things this tour, actually walking to the front of the stage. He'll be stage diving before you know it

[EightMilesHigh]

Just got this today. Vicarious roxors my boxorz :eek: So far, so good.

[incubliss]

Yeah, a friend of mine decided he probably wouldn't like the album due to the song names. He is the biggest fan of Aenima, and just couldn't accept The Pot, and Rosetta Stoned. He likes the whole mystery that surrounds Tool, but won't admit to that.

[Iai]

It took me a few hours to work out the whole steroscopic thing. :( I thought you were only meant to look in with one eye or something.

[incubliss]

Haha, I got that in seconds. My friend still can't do it.

[Iai]

I only really got it when that guy said about the magic eye thing, coz I can do those. And it's sort of similar.

[ThaFleastyler]

Glad I could help ;)

[led-zep-chris]

I saw the advert for 10,000 days on TV and the sample they used sounded really good. I'd never been into Tool before, but I've been meaning to check them out for some time. I managed, however, to hear.. I think it was 'Jambi' and I wasn't too impressed.. all the songs are really long ( i think )
are Tool more of an acquired taste?

[Kurrpt]

yea definitely. The albums grow on me more and more with every listen

[Sound Boy]

yeah this album gets better and better everytime i listen to it...i love the chemistry between Justin and Danny on this album

[pixiesfanyo]

it doesn't grow on me.

[Kurrpt]

well, you like the pixies, and you think its cool to dislike em...

[superpeer]

?

The pixies are about a million times better than Tool.

I should download this album, perhaps.

[Kurrpt]

eh, he was just having close minded responses about TOoL hate. I figure id provide the opposite side of the coin...


honestly, ive never heard the pixies :lol:

[YDload]

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3787

Dr Thorpe's review of "10,000 Days" ;)

[superpeer]

:lol: I was hoping for a Dr. Thorpe review of this.



Given what you think of Tool, I really wouldn't bother. Compared to their last two albums it's something of a let down, it's not as if you were exactly a fan of Lateralus and Aenima. Admittedly Justin Chancellor's good on it, and Danny Carey is good as ever, but the songs still aren't doing anything for me.

Yeah, I'm not expecting to like it or anything. I'm actually listening to Aenima now to see if I still hate it. And unless Maynard has started singing differently and they found a new approach to melody I'm bound to dislike it.

However, if I want to bash it, I'll need to hear it first. O:-)

[Kurrpt]

eh, you wanna talk about a bad new album, that new RHCP double disk is the worst ever

[clearvision]

Maynard does sing differently on this album (coming from a tool fan so i may be spotting subtleties) He's kinda lower in the mix of most songs, apart from the pot.

You might want to check it out, i think the album has a very different feel to it. However we have been down this road before Jelle and i don't really think this will hit the spot after you were dissapointed with aenima and lateralus.

UGh new RHCP sucks, i was so giddy when i was downloading it, then i was so bored listening to it after dani california had finished.

[YDload]

eh, you wanna talk about a bad new album, that new RHCP double disk is the worst ever

Maybe this should help you realize that music taste is all relative (if you didn't already understand that, of course). Maybe some RHCP fans don't like the new Tool album either.

Although I don't like what I've heard from the new Chilis album either.

[Kurrpt]

i know what i like, and i like what i know (genesis lyric)


i understand "taste" is subjective, i just think people should agree with me 100% of the time :D

[Kurrpt]

Maynard does sing differently on this album (coming from a tool fan so i may be spotting subtleties) He's kinda lower in the mix of most songs, apart from the pot.

You might want to check it out, i think the album has a very different feel to it. However we have been down this road before Jelle and i don't really think this will hit the spot after you were dissapointed with aenima and lateralus.

UGh new RHCP sucks, i was so giddy when i was downloading it, then i was so bored listening to it after dani california had finished.


i didnt like that single at all. The only one on disk 1 i think is "decent" is that slow cheetah song

[spoon_of_grimbo]

fave tracks ----> vicarious, jambi, the pot, right in two. and also the two wings for marie songs following closely behind.

[Sound Boy]

123

[incubliss]

Yeah same for me, I still can't get into Rosetta Stoned. It's not doing anything for me, whatsoever.

[Little Man being Erased]

I'm still looking forward to hearing this album. I may have it by tomorrow afternoon.

[dirtybass]

just finished listening to it again i love it, favorite songs are vicarious, jambi, the pot, right in two, rossetta stoned

[superpeer]

Maynard does sing differently on this album (coming from a tool fan so i may be spotting subtleties) He's kinda lower in the mix of most songs, apart from the pot.

You might want to check it out, i think the album has a very different feel to it. However we have been down this road before Jelle and i don't really think this will hit the spot after you were dissapointed with aenima and lateralus.

UGh new RHCP sucks, i was so giddy when i was downloading it, then i was so bored listening to it after dani california had finished.

I haven't heard Lateralus, I think. I have heard Undertow and AEnima though. But yeah, I'll leave you guys alone. <-<

[Clunge]

Vicarious, Jambi and Lost Keys are my faves.

[Kurrpt]

Vicarious and Roseta Stoned rank pretty high in my book...


i really like all the tracks but the "filler" tracks as of now

[Robert Crumb]

So I bought this earlier this week and I listened to it and, after talking to a Tool fan, realized I'm no longer able to have a coherent conversation with a zealot.

[Shadius]

Yeah some people take things way too far.

Anyway, the album is really good. 10,000 Days the track is the most emotional thing they've put out for a while, and the Pot is the coolest sounding song since... well, I don't know, the Prison Sex riff?

The rest of the songs are really good, and I don't understand what's so bad about Tool's melodies... the vast majority of their songs are pretty melodic, and have good original sounding melodies in them.

[YDload]

The one problem I have with the melodies is that they're almost always in the same key. They never really change it up unless they're tuning to drop-B.

However, the BEST part about the melodies is that they are usually served by the bassline, and as a bassist I think that's awesome!

[W.M.A]

I can't believe how popular Tool is. Not cos I don't like them, but to sell 564,000 units in the first week in the U.S alone. Thats more than How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb, and yet I could ask 80% of the kids at my school and they wouldnt know who Tool is. Good work, Tool.

[incubliss]

Yeah, it is a weird thing. They debuted at Number 4 in the UK, which is equally as strange. Higher than Pearl Jam would you believe.

[Kurrpt]

its seems to me, that there is one part in each track that the whole song builds towards. Sometimes, the "building" part didnt seem to agree with me right away, but when the climax builds, it strikes a perverbial chord somewhere in my head that I have yet to find with any other band.

[WAK (while killing)]

Justins work on this album is INTENSE! The only song that doesn't click with me is Intention. I got goose bumps when I heard Wings Pt 1 and 10k days. All you nay-sayers out there need to approach this album with an open mind, or you'll be dissapointed

You can't try to compare this album to Lateralus, their to different.

[looozer]

I picked it up last Tuesday (I think... maybe the one before... the day it came out). It seemed like the band was trying a bit too hard at first, but it's grown on me a little.

[ThaFleastyler]

Originally Posted by W.M.A.
but to sell 564,000 units in the first week in the U.S alone. Thats more than How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb
Originally Posted by incubliss
They debuted at Number 4 in the UK, which is equally as strange. Higher than Pearl Jam would you believe.
Further to this, "10,000 Days" debuted at number 1 here in New Zealand while Pearl Jam debuted at number 2. W.M.A. makes a good point - for a band who most would consider almost 'underground' (for want of a better word) they achieve heaps of mainstream success.

[wikuk]

It's pretty much like everything else they've released, overly pretentious, really freakin' long, and boring.

I mean at least the Mars Volta make interesting music to go along with how pretentious it is. Plus they seem like real people, unlike Tool who are a bunch of monks who think they are above everything.

finally someone who is so stupid that he can't think of good arguments. F*CK you. that's all i have to say about that comment.

[YDload]

finally someone who is so stupid that he can't think of good arguments. F*CK you. that's all i have to say about that comment.

Doesn't anyone see the irony behind this statement? Honestly, you guys are acting a little overzealous about Tool, and that's one of the reasons that people might not like the band... because of their fans! It may seem crazy if you're not used to it, but comments like this one are a pretty good example.

[Jawaharal]

Its a pretty good album. Sorta weak in some parts, but I enjoy it.

[Zmev]

TOOL in general. they are undoubtedly in the top ten bands of our time

Bahaha fanboy.

[Happymeal]

If die hard Tool fans can actually accept the fact that a number of people think they suck, there would be peace in this world*

*internet

[blueyxd]

Doesn't anyone see the irony behind this statement? Honestly, you guys are acting a little overzealous about Tool, and that's one of the reasons that people might not like the band... because of their fans!
I can vouch for that, and they used to be my favourite band. Still havent had a proper listen to 10000 days yet.. Modest Mouse - Good News... has got the majority of my attention for the moment.

[Zmev]

thats fangirl, motherfukc

I care, seriously.

and i can count on my fingers the rock bands that are still making music today that really put their all into mastering their instruments and releasing mature, kickass music album after album

I can count on my fingers too, whats your point?

and in response to that dildo that called tool fans overzealous... it is asinine to base ones opinion of a band on their fans. its all about the music, right??

No, some fan bases are horrible, and you know it.

[blueyxd]

I've just been put off Tool even more now, by a fan

[Against Miik!]

and in response to that dildo that called tool fans overzealous... it is asinine to base ones opinion of a band on their fans. its all about the music, right??

In general yes. But some bands also represent a culture. And if you absolutely despise and do not want to be a part of that culture, then I guess its cool not to like the band as much. Examples are ICP and Slipknot, who coincidentally also make bad music.

[incubliss]

I've just been put off Tool even more now, by a fan

Stop reading internet forums and just listen to the CDs.

[WAK (while killing)]

Tool writes some really intense and inspirational music, however I understand how people can be put off buy the practicly cult following of Tool. I'm not all that in to the "culture" of Tool, but their one of the few bands who still writes good music.

You don't have to like all the weird crap that follows Tool around to enjoy their music.

[RoN_jErEmY]

I didn't know if you people knew this. But, If you burn both Viginti Tres followed by Wings for marie .. Then, play that track as one with 10,000 days as another track and play both at the same time, Both Wings for Marie AND 10,000 days sync ! It is incredible ! It is like an 8 piece band but it all FLOWS ! It flows like one song.. It is the most unique and incredible thing I have ever heard in my life.. BadA$$ ! The vocals, drums, the guitar riffs, everything flows ! Both songs get heavy at the same point at 9 minutes and 14 seconds in, it is magical ! This band synched tracks ! They synched them in testament to Maynard's mother passing to sound like an 8 piece band.. The vocals wisp back and forth almost like a conversation during the sync.. It's UNREAL !

Tool meant these tracks to synch.. If you look at the track times, "10,000 days" is 11 mins and 13 seconds long.. When you add the track times of "Viginti Tres" and "Wings for Marie" it adds up to 11:13 as well.. Look at the album cover ! There are 3 faces with one in the front.. This SICK band meant for all three tracks to play as one song for the self-title track "10,000 days" . Freaky !!

By the way, "Viginti Tres" means the number 23 in Latin . 23 is the number of synchronicity . And nothing is more synchronous than hearing the tracks mixed as I described .. Everything Tool writes is for a reason. These aren't merely interludes and fillers this band puts between songs. All their tracks have a meaning and there's a reason why they are there .. They are truly a one of a kind band like no other.

I recommend using a surround sound system for this.. Play 10,000 days in the rear and viginti treS + Wings for Marie in the front.. It's much better than headphones with listening each tune in one ear.. Because you have a fade with headphones.. Ever notice sometimes the bass guitar (or the effects) will only play in one ear with headphones ? And you may have to adjust the bars and volume.. But once you set it right, the sync is undeniable and it is a pure treat .. Well this is what I mean . It must be heard with a surround system . About two minutes in there will be sounds swingin around your head..It is so cosmic and trippy. When it gets heavy at 9 minutes and 14 seconds in, Both songs get heavy at the same point and it sounds like a cohesive 8 piece band. It's crazy ! I havent stopped listening to this musical feast for 3 days now.. This band is SICK SICK SICK !!

Tool, once again, has come up with something totally innovative on an album. A band that is truly unparalleled IMHO. They never disappoint . On the 2001 release Lateralus , they did the infamous fibonacci sequence in the title song.. Tool's Lateralus is the best album front to back I have ever heard, PERIOD.. They are intoxicating once you give them enough time to squeeze into your consciousness. And with hours of straight listening, your flattened.. Because this band is so deep, it takes a long time for you to absorb their musical complexities , waves and textures. But once you absorb them with alot of listens, it is entrenched into your psychy and they are a mad MAD addiction ..

Every album this foursome comes up with has some new mad musical ideas, they are like mad musical scientists .. Here, in 10,000 days they sync three songs , to make it sound like one incredible song ! The only band in history to accomplish this incredible feat on an album.. This band is pure genius. And with every release they never cease to amaze me. For about 10 years now this band has made me just speechless. I have received such pleasures over their sound over the years that I believe these 4 guys who call themselves "Tool" , are really from another planet ... Pure genius . What innovation . What an experience . Album of the year . This is a masterpiece !! Tool is Da Earcrack !

[Sound Boy]

thats fangirl, motherfukc. and i can count on my fingers the rock bands that are still making music today that really put their all into mastering their instruments and releasing mature, kickass music album after album.

and in response to that dildo that called tool fans overzealous... it is asinine to base ones opinion of a band on their fans. its all about the music, right??

this girl knows whats up.

seriously most bands that have been around as long as Tool burn up and fade away cause their sh*t gets dull and sounds the same. you dont see Arctic Monkeys and The Killers puttin out epic sh*t that get number one in the charts *and number one in our hearts*. the only band i think that would be close is Radiohead and thats a big ****in band. and now a days bands are only known for one person whereas Tool has everyone in the spotlight and they get the sh*t done. noone uses a talk box anymore. noone mixes down the vocals so its not over powering the band. noone syncs up their songs to other songs on the same album...yes syncing has been done before but not like this where its songs off the same album and have the same tone.

and then all the haters come up with is "oh your a fanboy" so the **** what...if i like a band, it makes me a fan...i guess im a Zeppelin "fanboy" as well. so the hell what?!

[ThaFleastyler]

I'm a huge, HUH-YUGE Tool fan. But its cool if you're not.

Look, music is highly subjective - the key is to listen to the music objectively, form your own opinion of it, and not get on other peoples cases when they disagree, because they are fullly entitled to, and in most cases will disagree. Frankly, I'm a Tool "fanboy" ... but at the same time, I can see why Ydload would think Tool fan are overzealous and why i am miik would be put off by the culture (I think thats what you meant). For the most part (and I've only recently discovered this) Tool fans are obnoxious, and have some kind of complex where they think Tool is the only band anyone can like. Which is just plain b.s.

Actually, I think it takes a great deal of arrogance to assume that the band you like is the best band ever without question. And I'm 100% sure that those of you who are 16-18 years old will think a different band is the best band in the world in a few years - the bands I love right now are not the same ones I loved when I was 16 or 18.

Everyone has different tastes, yet everyone doesn't seem to understand or appreciate that fact.

PS: Modest Mouse - Good News ... is a brilliant album. Only recently got it and I love it. And Steve Vai is a'ight as well.

[pixiesfanyo]

this girl knows whats up.

seriously most bands that have been around as long as Tool burn up and fade away cause their sh*t gets dull and sounds the same. you dont see Arctic Monkeys and The Killers puttin out epic sh*t that get number one in the charts *and number one in our hearts*. the only band i think that would be close is Radiohead and thats a big ****in band. and now a days bands are only known for one person whereas Tool has everyone in the spotlight and they get the sh*t done. noone uses a talk box anymore. noone mixes down the vocals so its not over powering the band. noone syncs up their songs to other songs on the same album...yes syncing has been done before but not like this where its songs off the same album and have the same tone.

and then all the haters come up with is "oh your a fanboy" so the **** what...if i like a band, it makes me a fan...i guess im a Zeppelin "fanboy" as well. so the hell what?!

Uhm. You need to look into music more. Plently of bands do what Tool does and do it better. Also plently of bands that aren't in the mainstream are known for their band. You like most Tool fans are being single minded, which is the worst thing about your lot.

I've listened to every Tool album five times. I should enjoy Tool heavily if they are such a progressive interesting band. But I don't. I love progressive music, but Tool's is lost on me. Maybe it's because I've had to deal with the constant praise of their albums from 13 year olds who think they've found the second coming.

Maynard is a below par, ****ty lyricist. Jones is one of the most average and self ripping off guitarists in modern rock. Justin is a good bassist but relies on effects too much which interferes with his ability, and their drummer while very talented at times seems like he is over playing. I do enjoy the song Schism but every other song I hear from Tool seems to be like them trying to recreate that song.

Anyways, Tool is vastly overrated and very boring.

That's all there is too it.

[ThaFleastyler]

Uhm. You need to look into music more. Plently of bands do what Tool does and do it better. Also plently of bands that aren't in the mainstream are known for their band. You like most Tool fans are being single minded, which is the worst thing about your lot.

I've listened to every Tool album five times. I should enjoy Tool heavily if they are such a progressive interesting band. But I don't. I love progressive music, but Tool's is lost on me. Maybe it's because I've had to deal with the constant praise of their albums from 13 year olds who think they've found the second coming.

Maynard is a below par, ****ty lyricist. Jones is one of the most average and self ripping off guitarists in modern rock. Justin is a good bassist but relies on effects too much which interferes with his ability, and their drummer while very talented at times seems like he is over playing. I do enjoy the song Schism but every other song I hear from Tool seems to be like them trying to recreate that song.

Anyways, Tool is vastly overrated and very boring.

That's all there is too it.
You're a dick.

[pixiesfanyo]

You're a dick.

Good reasoning for a counter argument, governor.

[ThaFleastyler]

Please see my previous post.
And also my post before that one.

[Zmev]

How about you make them the sane length and sync them up.

[ATM]

How about you make them the sane length and sync them up.

:lol:

Oh Alt and Indie forum, how I love thee.

[pixiesfanyo]

How about you make them the sane length and sync them up.

Nah dude. Everyone knows he used the famous golden ratio to show us how Tool is the greatest thing to grace the earth.

I mean come on, they use EFFECTS on their BASS GUITAR!!!!!

Who DOES THAT!!!?!?!?!?!!!!!

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

I didn't know if you people knew this. But, If you burn both Viginti Tres followed by Wings for marie .. Then, play that track as one with 10,000 days as another track and play both at the same time, Both Wings for Marie AND 10,000 days sync ! It is incredible ! It is like an 8 piece band but it all FLOWS ! It flows like one song.. It is the most unique and incredible thing I have ever heard in my life.. BadA$$ ! The vocals, drums, the guitar riffs, everything flows ! Both songs get heavy at the same point at 9 minutes and 14 seconds in, it is magical ! This band synched tracks ! They synched them in testament to Maynard's mother passing to sound like an 8 piece band.. The vocals wisp back and forth almost like a conversation during the sync.. It's UNREAL !

Tool meant these tracks to synch.. If you look at the track times, "10,000 days" is 11 mins and 13 seconds long.. When you add the track times of "Viginti Tres" and "Wings for Marie" it adds up to 11:13 as well.. Look at the album cover ! There are 3 faces with one in the front.. This SICK band meant for all three tracks to play as one song for the self-title track "10,000 days" . Freaky !!

By the way, "Viginti Tres" means the number 23 in Latin . 23 is the number of synchronicity . And nothing is more synchronous than hearing the tracks mixed as I described .. Everything Tool writes is for a reason. These aren't merely interludes and fillers this band puts between songs. All their tracks have a meaning and there's a reason why they are there .. They are truly a one of a kind band like no other.

I recommend using a surround sound system for this.. Play 10,000 days in the rear and viginti treS + Wings for Marie in the front.. It's much better than headphones with listening each tune in one ear.. Because you have a fade with headphones.. Ever notice sometimes the bass guitar (or the effects) will only play in one ear with headphones ? And you may have to adjust the bars and volume.. But once you set it right, the sync is undeniable and it is a pure treat .. Well this is what I mean . It must be heard with a surround system . About two minutes in there will be sounds swingin around your head..It is so cosmic and trippy. When it gets heavy at 9 minutes and 14 seconds in, Both songs get heavy at the same point and it sounds like a cohesive 8 piece band. It's crazy ! I havent stopped listening to this musical feast for 3 days now.. This band is SICK SICK SICK !!

Tool, once again, has come up with something totally innovative on an album. A band that is truly unparalleled IMHO. They never disappoint . On the 2001 release Lateralus , they did the infamous fibonacci sequence in the title song.. Tool's Lateralus is the best album front to back I have ever heard, PERIOD.. They are intoxicating once you give them enough time to squeeze into your consciousness. And with hours of straight listening, your flattened.. Because this band is so deep, it takes a long time for you to absorb their musical complexities , waves and textures. But once you absorb them with alot of listens, it is entrenched into your psychy and they are a mad MAD addiction ..

Every album this foursome comes up with has some new mad musical ideas, they are like mad musical scientists .. Here, in 10,000 days they sync three songs , to make it sound like one incredible song ! The only band in history to accomplish this incredible feat on an album.. This band is pure genius. And with every release they never cease to amaze me. For about 10 years now this band has made me just speechless. I have received such pleasures over their sound over the years that I believe these 4 guys who call themselves "Tool" , are really from another planet ... Pure genius . What innovation . What an experience . Album of the year . This is a masterpiece !! Tool is Da Earcrack !

lOL @ joo satire

[Sound Boy]

telling me im single minded and need to look into music more is insulting.
i wasnt saying they are the only ones that do it. im saying that most of the bands that are talked about in THIS forum dont.

[sr800bkBassist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKXr40gl9_k
Bang Tango Luvverrr.

[Zmev]

godDangIt (5 days ago)
Good Christ...very few words but thank God thats the past. I see the real Maynard in 3 days *Devil Horns*

godDangIt (5 days ago)
Good Christ...very few words but thank God thats the past. I see the real Maynard in 3 days *Devil Horns*

godDangIt (5 days ago)
Good Christ...very few words but thank God thats the past. I see the real Maynard in 3 days *Devil Horns*

godDangIt (5 days ago)
Good Christ...very few words but thank God thats the past. I see the real Maynard in 3 days *Devil Horns*

godDangIt (5 days ago)
Good Christ...very few words but thank God thats the past. I see the real Maynard in 3 days *Devil Horns*

godDangIt (5 days ago)
Good Christ...very few words but thank God thats the past. I see the real Maynard in 3 days *Devil Horns*

[ThaFleastyler]

Originally Posted by pixiesfanyo
Who DOES THAT!!!?!?!?!?!!!!!
Tool?

[ThaFleastyler]

And if you had read my post, you would have seen that I wasn't saying that Tool was the best band in the world at all. What I was saying was ... ohh, whats the f***ing point?!

[incubliss]

I reckon if people actually listened to the CD, and didn't bother visiting forums, they'd be able to form their own opinion of the CD. Using "I don't like the fans" as an excuse for not liking a band, is incredibly stupid. That's almost the same as disliking a band for the way they dress, or for the religion they follow. Half of the comments i've read in here, are by people who aren't backing anything up. Example;

"I do enjoy the song Schism but every other song I hear from Tool seems to be like them trying to recreate that song."

Every other song? What other songs? The only similiarites I find on any other song is in Vicarious, with the intro. That's it, out of the whole Tool collection. You can say this about any ****ing band.

Now, the majority of you will call me a fanboy for defending Tool, but half of the problem lies with misinformed idiots who don't know what they're talking about, and have no real valid reason for disliking Tool. Disliking them purely for beacuse you don't like their music is fine. I'm not saying you have to like Tool, but the reasons i'm hearing really annoy me, and are very superficial.

If I hear a stupid reason for some disliking a band I like, of course i'm going to defend or question it. That's only natural.

[Futuro]

and their drummer while very talented at times seems like he is over playing.Originality = overplaying? Idiot.

[black guy]

playing too much = overplaying

[Futuro]

playing too much = overplaying
He doesn't overplay though.

[black guy]

that guy thinks he does.

[Futuro]

http://www.aamr.org/

There ya go black guy.

[black guy]

I was making you aware of that fact that he was not saying being original means you're overplaying, but that he actually said that he played too much. He didn't seem to comment on originality at all.

Thank you for the link, dawg.

[thunderzstruck]

i have always tried to get into tool but i cant, i wish i could like them but their music just bored the hell out of me

[pixiesfanyo]

Originality = overplaying? Idiot.

He tends to be very showy. It's not my favorite kind of drum playing.

[Syncratic]

Showy? Kinda. Nobody can deny his talent, however.

Uhm. You need to look into music more. Plently of bands do what Tool does and do it better. Also plently of bands that aren't in the mainstream are known for their band. You like most Tool fans are being single minded, which is the worst thing about your lot.

I've listened to every Tool album five times. I should enjoy Tool heavily if they are such a progressive interesting band. But I don't. I love progressive music, but Tool's is lost on me. Maybe it's because I've had to deal with the constant praise of their albums from 13 year olds who think they've found the second coming.

Maynard is a below par, ****ty lyricist. Jones is one of the most average and self ripping off guitarists in modern rock. Justin is a good bassist but relies on effects too much which interferes with his ability, and their drummer while very talented at times seems like he is over playing. I do enjoy the song Schism but every other song I hear from Tool seems to be like them trying to recreate that song.

Anyways, Tool is vastly overrated and very boring.

That's all there is too it.

It seems to me that you're looking too far into what's bad about the music. All that I'm seeing here is negativity for the sake of negativity solely because you're in an argument.

[Sam]

I wish a Tool album would come out every month. I could sit here and read this bullshit all day.

[pixiesfanyo]

Showy? Kinda. Nobody can deny his talent, however.



It seems to me that you're looking too far into what's bad about the music. All that I'm seeing here is negativity for the sake of negativity solely because you're in an argument.

oh.

i guess that's it.

and carey is good at drums, I agree. He is very talented, it just always seems like he's the central talent in the band and none of the other members get their chances to shine. it's annoying.

[Syncratic]

and carey is good at drums, I agree. He is very talented, it just always seems like he's the central talent in the band and none of the other members get their chances to shine. it's annoying.

I know what you mean. Although we disagree about Maynard's lyrics (I quite enjoy them) and Adam's abilities (he's a bit above average), I think that Justin and Adam are getting more prominence on this record (The Pot is a good example of Justin's talent).

[WAK (while killing)]

The drums are cool on 10,00 days, but they definatly do not take center stage, Justin drives this album.

[ThaFleastyler]

Originally Posted by incubliss
Every other song? What other songs? The only similiarites I find on any other song is in Vicarious, with the intro. That's it, out of the whole Tool collection.
The reason for this dumb generalisation is that the people saying it have heard a total of 2 Tool songs - Schism and Vicarious. And that's it, out of the whole Tool collection.

Still, they're entitled to their opinion.

[pixiesfanyo]

The reason for this dumb generalisation is that the people saying it have heard a total of 2 Tool songs - Schism and Vicarious. And that's it, out of the whole Tool collection.

Still, they're entitled to their opinion.

Once again, I've listened to every tool album besides 10,000 Days at least five times. They are a band I should like. I try very hard to not criticize anything I haven't listened too, and I think Tool is the only band I really extremely dislike. I even don't dislike them that much, their albums are probably all solid 2.5 or 3. They know how to make music, they just add so much overblown nonsense it ruins what they do well. Anyways, yeah.

[Sound Boy]

can you describe "overblown nonsense"??

[TheBigPK]

Ya, wth are you trying to say... they add substance and you dont like that? Meaning really sucks, i agree..

[ThaFleastyler]

I repeat:
They are entitled to their opinion.

[thunderzstruck]

wow i guess tool elists are real

i find them ****ing boring.. guitar parts drawn out and their songs are just bland and have no value behind them, i couldnt listen to a whole album without killing myself

[pixiesfanyo]

can you describe "overblown nonsense"??

Every song has a tendency to go way over board in it's orchestration. They always seem to add weird things like a phone call, or native americans chanting for "effect" when really it's just to make them different. They're just pretentious people who have nothing to back up their "dabbles" in originality. If Manyard and Co. would just realize they are an interesting rock band, I'd probably be able too take their music alot better, but due to the fans behavior and the bands as well they just grate on me. They think they're the baddest mother ****ers around, but can't back it up.

[pixiesfanyo]

I repeat:
They are entitled to their opinion.

If you don't care about opinions you shouldn't be on a MUSIC DISCUSSION board.

That means everything here is discussing based on opinions.

[YDload]

pixies, if you want to read the last few pages of comments for Iai's review of this album, then you'll see that arguing with Tool fanboys is impossible. i learned that the hard way, and I'm one of the people who LIKES the album!

[Matt?]

tool songs are like the da vinci code

[YDload]

tool songs are like the da vinci code

Nah that book is dumb pulp trash designed to make ordinary people feel like they've discovered this amazing secret that nobody else is privy to.

Surely THAT is nothing like a Tool song... right?

[Matt?]

lol.

this thread makes me look down upon tool fanboys even more then i did previously.

[Bukowski]

I love Tool fanboys. Such funny people.

[Reywas]

nope tool is hc. but not as hardocore as ICP.

[Matt?]

i think that u indie kids just hate tool because they're mainstreem

[Reywas]

no they hate them because tool > bright eyes

[pixiesfanyo]

no, it's because they don't do their releases on vinyl.

[Sound Boy]

Every song has a tendency to go way over board in it's orchestration. They always seem to add weird things like a phone call, or native americans chanting for "effect" when really it's just to make them different.

but if they didnt you'd call them unoriginal or call them another Godsmack. they try to stretch their talent for more then four minutes. and the Pixies do the same thing...like the creepy ending to "where is my mind" where they add another 30 seconds to the song because of the "oooo's".

but its whatever. im done arguing about Tool..i like them, they are all talented, and all the albums are great. thats my story and im stickin to it:smash:

[pixiesfanyo]

but if they didnt you'd call them unoriginal or call them another Godsmack. they try to stretch their talent for more then four minutes. and the Pixies do the same thing...like the creepy ending to "where is my mind" where they add another 30 seconds to the song because of the "oooo's".

but its whatever. im done arguing about Tool..i like them, they are all talented, and all the albums are great. thats my story and im stickin to it:smash:

Nah. I'm a big fan of modern rock (dredg, Hopesfall, QoTSA, Deftones, etc.) I just think Tool is full of themselves and thinks they are more original than they are. If they just played some bad *** songs, like the Deftones that were original but not over blown, they'd be a solid band.

[Sound Boy]

mmmmmmmm Deftones :)

[YDload]

It's the Tool fans who think the band is more original than they are. Who knows what the band's idea of themselves is? They know damn well that they've been writing everything in practically the same key for their whole career now.

[pixiesfanyo]

Anyone that puts eight minute phone conversations on their albums is full of themselves.

[Sam]

I know! Even Sonic Youth, one of the most pretentious bands ever kept their in-album phone conversations to around 3 minutes.

[Kurrpt]

I have always tried to get into tool but i cant, i wish i could like them but their music just bored the hell out of me

i find them ****ing boring.. guitar parts drawn out and their songs are just bland and have no value behind them, i couldnt listen to a whole album without killing myself


maybe your next post, you'll actually offer more of an opinion than "boring"

[incubliss]

Anyone that puts eight minute phone conversations on their albums is full of themselves.

:confused:

Do you even think before you type things out? Or is this sarcasm?

[Bukowski]

maybe your next post, you'll actually offer more of an opinion than "boring"

That's a perfectly legitimate comment to make though. He finds Tool boring, that's reasoning enough to dislike a band. It's fairly obvious what someone's getting at when they call a band like Tool boring.

[Zorg]

I'd just like to say Tool's lyrics are laughable. When they arn't nonsensical they're trite. Actually I don't even have a problem with nonsensical lyrics. Just don't try to tell me nonsensical lyrics mean something when they don't. Or if they do it's just some esoteric convoluted puzzle that nobody is going to get (though some Tool zealots are sure to have said they've figured it out). The band to me seems to be a step away from a novelty. People just don't see it because it's a "serious" novelty.

I won't say the band doesn't have talent when it comes to playing their instruments, because they do. But there is so much musical masturbation in their songs (then again it wouldn't be prog without it, but I HATE prog) that it makes me throw up.

Tool is by no means the worst band, they're nowhere close to being the worst band. But they arn't good like their fans will say they are. Anyway King Crimson did it better the first time around.

[Neurotoxin]

"But they aren't good like their fans will say they are."

What an utterly useless thing to say. That comment is relevant to basically any artist.

[Zorg]

Sorry I forgot to put bois at the end of fan in the sentence. Oh and experts say 9/10 Tool fans are fanbois.

[ThaFleastyler]

Originally Posted by pixiesfanyo
If you don't care about opinions you shouldn't be on a MUSIC DISCUSSION board.

That means everything here is discussing based on opinions.
I was actually aiming that at the guy above that post who was just dismissing someone. People are entitled to their opinions, but we shouldn't be flaming people who share their opinion - I did earlier in this thread and I apologise.

[Neurotoxin]

Sorry I forgot to put bois at the end of fan in the sentence. Oh and experts say 9/10 Tool fans are fanbois.

Regardless, my point is still valid.

Also, the word "fanboy" is quite annoying.

[Sound Boy]

tell him steve-dave!

[ThaFleastyler]

I don't even know what makes someone a "fanboy" - whats the difference between a "fan" and a "fanboy"?!

[YDload]

"fanboy" makes Tool fans really really really mad, apparently!

[ThaFleastyler]

I'm a Tool fan, and I'm not mad.
Fanboy sounds funny :D :D

[pixiesfanyo]

ur so pissed.

omg, i didn't think when i said dat.

[Neurotoxin]

"fanboy" makes Tool fans really really really mad, apparently!

...who is getting really mad?

[sr800bkBassist]

tool is better than any other metal bands besides Iron Maiden, but they are criminally overrated and are average.

i read in a guitar forum thread about tool:
(not exact quote but very close)"the reason tool don't layer mulriple tracks of guitar is because they believe in the sacred geometry, which states that everything is better when broken down into its simplest state."

SHUT THE **** UP, TOOL.
why can't this band just say "yeah we like to keep our sound kinda stripped down."? do they really need a philosophy behind every average thing they do?

[Neurotoxin]

Wait- you say "SHUT UP, TOOL", yet in regards to something they never said? I can't see the logic in that. Nor can I see the logic in labelling Tool as a metal band, especially accomponied by such a flawed statement as "Tool is better than any other metal bands besides Iron Maiden".

[sr800bkBassist]

Wait- you say "SHUT UP, TOOL", yet in regards to something they never said? I can't see the logic in that. Nor can I see the logic in labelling Tool as a metal band, especially accomponied by such a flawed statement as "Tool is better than any other metal bands besides Iron Maiden".
dude. Tool is a metal band. they always have been, always will be. unless they're punk? indie? shoegaze? blues?

anyway, the point was, the guy was making a refference to the band, themselves, saying they believe in "sacred geometry".
this also goes for songs like "46&2" and all that other stuff where they use "deep" scientific and philosophical referrences to make themselves seem smarter.

[pixiesfanyo]

Tool is a modern rock band dude.

[WAK (while killing)]

I always thought of Tool as Prog, but thats just me.

[YDload]

Tool is a progressive hard rock band. The drumming makes them sound metal because it's really damn good though.

[sr800bkBassist]

I always thought of Tool as Prog, but thats just me.
pay close attention to everything before Lateralus. listen to the guitar playing as well, not just the drums. and the bass. it's metal.

unconventional, yes.
but metal.

new CD is pretty metal too. not so much as their early stuff, but still metal. the only not-so-metal CD is Lateralus.

[Sam]

I agree with sr800bk. I don't understand all this about how Tool is amazing and progressive and super talented. Granted, I've only listened to about two Tool albums, but they seem like pretty low-brow metal to me.

[pixiesfanyo]

Too bad they are modern rock.

[Otherside]

Yah I don't hear hardley any metal sounds in Tool's music. Just because something's heavy doesn't mean it's always metal :\

[Little Man being Erased]

Tool is a progressive hard rock band. The drumming makes them sound metal because it's really damn good though.
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[WAK (while killing)]

I can see Opiate as Metal, Undertow as well, but definatly not ÆNIMA.

[YDload]

Tool was probably labeled as grunge when they first came out, but like Radiohead they have moved away from that sound significantly (as well as amassing a bunch of retarded fans!).

[Neurotoxin]

Dude, you think Tool fans are lame, yadda yadda yadda. We know already. It's just as annoying as the "rabid fanboys".

[WAK (while killing)]

ICP and Slipknot fans are probably the worst, I had a girl hit me in the face when I told her the only good Slipknot album was the first one. ICP fans are just as bad.

[pixiesfanyo]

At least Slipknow and ICP fans don't think they are the smartest beings on the planet due to the band they listen too.

[YDload]

At least Slipknow and ICP fans don't think they are the smartest beings on the planet due to the band they listen too.

This is true. You think Dave Thorpe of "Your Band Sucks" still gets hate mail from a Tool article he wrote over two years ago? You're damn right he does! He posts more of it on the SA forums than what he puts in his updates. ICP fans are still the most rabid, but Tool and Mars Volta fans seem to write the most words per angry e-mail. They're probably smarter in that they can spell better, but the message is still the same: "I hate you for making fun of my favorite band on a comedy website. How dare you. You are a loser. I want you to die or perform oral sex on me."

[ThaFleastyler]

Originally Posted by WAK (while killing)
ICP and Slipknot fans are probably the worst, I had a girl hit me in the face when I told her the only good Slipknot album was the first one. ICP fans are just as bad.
I agree - the first Slipknot album is the best of them all. I was shockd when I heard the latest one.

But I guess it shows the power of subjectiveness when a girl would slap you for dissing the band she loves. Hardcore Tool fans are the same. Ditto for hardcore Nirvana fans.

[sr800bkBassist]

i love "punks" who will freak out if you say their music taste sucks (Cheap Sex, Clit45, Sex Pistols, Subhumans, etc). they'll think you are some pop-rock loving idiot who knows nothing about underground music and punk culture.

but on the contrary, i just hate those crappy middle-schooler punk bands. i love punk.

[Futuro]

At least Slipknow and ICP fans don't think they are the smartest beings on the planet due to the band they listen too.
Yeah but slipknot doesnt make songs where you divide the numerator of the dualing time signatures by 2 and figure out the meaning of life. :eek:

[ATM]

Bands with the most annoying fans:

Metallica
ICP
Sublime/311
Tool
Radiohead (unfortunately)

[sr800bkBassist]

Yeah but slipknot doesnt make songs where you divide the numerator of the dualing time signatures by 2 and figure out the meaning of life. :eek:
pfft everyone knows that rumor's false. some fans made that up to throw people off.

the real way is to take the length of the song, divide it by 4.7, add that to the number of tracks on the album and multiply it by the sum of the number of letters in the 3 biggest words on that CD used by Maynard, and then subtract the number of times Maynard does something really really awkward on stage during every concert they played in the year 1998.

you then send a letter to Tool containing that number and they will send you and autograph.

you must lay this autograph over the bible's text on the very last page of writing, and write down every letter that a line crosses over. you must unscramble these letters to discover a secret message. then you need to cut out each individual word and place one cut-out word at the beginning of every other sentence on the first page of the Bible. a message will be revealed.

this message will tell you how smart Tool is.

[Futuro]

pfft everyone knows that rumor's false. some fans made that up to throw people off.

the real way is to take the length of the song, divide it by 4.7, add that to the number of tracks on the album and multiply it by the sum of the number of letters in the 3 biggest words on that CD used by Maynard, and then subtract the number of times Maynard does something really really awkward on stage during every concert they played in the year 1998.

you then send a letter to Tool containing that number and they will send you and autograph.

you must lay this autograph over the bible's text on the very last page of writing, and write down every letter that a line crosses over. you must unscramble these letters to discover a secret message. then you need to cut out each individual word and place one cut-out word at the beginning of every other sentence on the first page of the Bible. a message will be revealed.

this message will tell you how smart Tool is.
ROFLMAO You are my favorite Mxer. Good job. haha

[sr800bkBassist]

btw, i feel like posting this again, as proof of Maynard's genius.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKXr40gl9_k

Bang Tango Luvvverrrr

[Otherside]

Bands with the most annoying fans:

Metallica
ICP
Sublime/311
Tool
Radiohead (unfortunately)

I don't even know any Radiohead fans, save for one guy who has a shirt he made, but he's a cool guy.

And punk fans are often so elitist it's funny :\

[Zorg]

At least the Sublime guy at the decency to die.

[EightMilesHigh]

Bands with the most annoying fans:

Metallica
ICP
Sublime/311
Tool
Radiohead (unfortunately)

+

Dream Theater
The Ramones (best punk rawk band eva)

[ATM]

+

Dream Theater
The Ramones (best punk rawk band eva)

Ah yea, I forgot about DT fans.

[Sound Boy]

in no particular order.

1. DT trys to hard to be Rush
2. ALOT of Radiohead fans are as annoying as the bands that try too hard to be radiohead (most of them are both).
3.on Maynards Genius: Did you hear he has his own Wine??
4."Vermillion part 2" by Slipknot is just toooo damn good to hate on

[WAK (while killing)]

The worst Tool fans are the ones who take the whole weird Tool religion thing seriously.

[Zorg]

The worst Tool fans are the ones who take the whole weird Tool religion thing seriously.

Seriously. They should have been in Waco. Not those other freaks.

[guitarded_chuck]

I was going to listen to it, untill I bought Stadium Arcadium. One epic mainstream rock album at a time. I'll listen to it soon.

I like Tool, but they can be boring. In my opinion of course.

[Zorg]

You throw the word epic around a lot don't you?