Angels and Airwaves

[Mispeled]

I've heard their single "The Adventure" a few times now and I love it loads better than anything Blink ever did. I never thought I'd say this, but...

Tom DeLonge++

[Steerpike]

Angels and Airwaves is to arena rock what Jet is classic rock.

[ThaFleastyler]

... gay?

[black guy]

I think it sounds like Blink 182 with more reverb to make it sounds more "epic".

[FauxApathy]

Check out the pop-punk section. That's got an AVA thread in it

[Mispeled]

Check out the pop-punk section. That's got an AVA thread in it
I apologize

[Jacaranda]

I'm not sure how exactly they are arena rock. To me at least, they sound nothing like any arena rock they just sound like a pop rock band but whatever.

I actually really enjoyed their first single "Adventure(?)" and the video was kind of odd. I might buy their album.

Oh I dunno Blink > A&A. I'm a blink-182 fan.
:)

[Steerpike]

I'm not sure how exactly they are arena rock. To me at least, they sound nothing like any arena rock they just sound like a pop rock band but whatever.

I'm basically saying that because of the use of effects to create a "bigger" sound like 80's-era Rush or U2.

Not my best analogy, but I hope the message is clear nevertheless.

[Permanent Solution]

Their album didn't impress me much at all. Even Blink's last album, with the change in sound, appealed to me more than this album. It kinda sounded like Blink if they were tired and wrote an album at 4 am one night.

[punkrocker-182]

AVA is awesone
(so far) i don't got the album i got "the adventure" "a quater of Valkrie missle"
"It hurts" and "Good Day"

[CommieCanada]

I think it sounds like Blink 182 with more reverb to make it sounds more "epic".
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[form]

I love the album, and listened to it about 10X so far.

Theres a thread in pop-punk if you would post in to have better/more discussion :chug:

[morrissey]

He's trying too hard and the end product is nothing new or revolutionary. He just has an inflated sense of his own talent and importance.

The album isn't explicitly bad, but it is nothing to write home about either.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I was wondering why everyone was replying to this. I really have no interest in this unless Tom Delonge has decided to stop pretending he's 9 years old.

[morrissey]

Whatever sells records man.

edit: also, last.fm triple stat

[Dave de Sylvia]

Yeah but nobody's really that Californian

Edit: yeah triple stat double backflip whatever

[Mispeled]

I've been reading a bit about it and have to say that Tom's inflated ego is a bit obnoxious.

"It sounds like it has the conceptual depth of Pink Floyd, the anthemic architecture of U2 but with Tom from blink writing all the melodies. All the songs are very cinematic, anthemic and epic-sounding. The music sounds angelic. Every song gives you the chills and you feel like you want to cry but you're conquering the world at the same time. It sounds like stadium rock done by a band that's meant to be the absolute biggest band in the world."


But hey, I like the music, so who cares about what kind of stupid stuff Tom says about it.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Hahaha that's so awesome that he talks about himself in the third person.

I'm gonna start referring to myself as YHWH in tribute.

[Anti-Prefix]

He's trying too hard and the end product is nothing new or revolutionary. He just has an inflated sense of his own talent and importance.

The album isn't explicitly bad, but it is nothing to write home about either.

Right. And his lyrics haven't progressed as much as I had hoped.

[Permanent Solution]

Hahaha that's so awesome that he talks about himself in the third person.

I'm gonna start referring to myself as YHWH in tribute.
lawl, Jew.

[incubliss]

It's a really dissapointing album, and it feels like it's building up to something special, but there's just anti-climax after anti-climax. The video to The Adventure makes me hurl. The hands in grass thing annoyed me so much.

I want to call Tom pretentious, but I don't think it's the right word. I can't think of the word! It's like blind arrogance. He thinks he's this one thing, when he's the complete opposite. He's a hype man, and he's hyped this to the high heavens and it's gonna come hurtling back down.

[morrissey]

I want to call Tom pretentious, but I don't think it's the right word. I can't think of the word! It's like blind arrogance. He thinks he's this one thing, when he's the complete opposite. He's a hype man, and he's hyped this to the high heavens and it's gonna come hurtling back down.
Yeah I completely agree. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so damn sad.

[Phototropic]

Yeah, after reading about it in kerrang I did expect something half decent, but to compare it to bands like Pink Floyd...? Get back to the poop jokes

Its so un-exciting and mundane...makes me scratch my head

Does he actually think its as epic as he made out!? :confused:

He's riding on the coat-tails of Blinks success

If this was any other buggers band then this would get laughed off

[Dave de Sylvia]

It's a really dissapointing album, and it feels like it's building up to something special, but there's just anti-climax after anti-climax. The video to The Adventure makes me hurl. The hands in grass thing annoyed me so much.

I want to call Tom pretentious, but I don't think it's the right word. I can't think of the word! It's like blind arrogance. He thinks he's this one thing, when he's the complete opposite. He's a hype man, and he's hyped this to the high heavens and it's gonna come hurtling back down.
Yeah, pretencious would be implying he's pretending to be really awesome and godlike, when in reality he is all of those things.

I mean he thinks he is!

[Pyramidman]

i like these guys
pretentious? yes
good? i think so
the music video isnt really good though, though the space part is pretty sweet

-Quote-
I lie that song "quarter of a valkyrie missle"

isnt it just Valkyrie Missle?

[punkrocker-182]

Well its a crapy vesion recorded of the radio Where its
the first minuet and a half (until the singing stars) of Valkyrie Missle.

[2muchket!]

I like the adventure and thats all I've heard up to now. Plus there already an AVA thread in the pop-punk forum.

[Little Man being Erased]

Can I ask a stupid question?


OK.


Why the **** is Angels and Airwaves shortened to AVA?

[Dave de Sylvia]

Why the **** is Angels and Airwaves shortened to AVA?
It's all part of the vision.

[Iluvatar]

After listening to this, I wanted to punch Tom DeLonge in the face. It's god awful.

That's all I have to say on this abysmal subject.

[incubliss]

It's the twin company of APA, the Acolytes Protection Agency. Tom and co are here to kick some serious ***. Except, not as good as the APA.

[Steerpike]

After listening to this, I wanted to punch Tom DeLonge in the face. It's god awful.

That's all I have to say on this abysmal subject.

After listening to it? Hell, I wanted to knock his teeth out as soon as he opened his mouth.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I think someone beat you to it.

[Surtr]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327692&page=425

/Thread

[Pazz]

I didn't like the album a whole lot at the start. But after a few listens it definately grown on me. It's not amazing, far from it, but I still like it.

[Little Man being Erased]

It's all part of the vision.
Oh, but of course. The delicate genius that he is.


It's the twin company of APA, the Acolytes Protection Agency. Tom and co are here to kick some serious ***. Except, not as good as the APA.
That doesn't make much sense either.


I guess I'll just put it down as one of the mysteries of the universe.

[neighborhood fascist]

Great. Even after Blink 182 and Boxcar Racer, people are still expecting Tom Delonge, and those other two fags, to do something remotely decent. Yeah, that's not going to happen.

[Iluvatar]

Nah, Plus 44 is neat. AVA just boring.

[pulseczar]

Tom's idea of "ground-breaking" or "innovative" is not playing power chords all the time and effects pedals. Blink's last album is much better than this AVA jargon.

[punkrocker-182]

Can I ask a stupid question?


OK.


Why the **** is Angels and Airwaves shortened to AVA?

Because Toms Daughters Name Is Ava.

[neighborhood fascist]

Nah, Plus 44 is neat. AVA just boring.
No.

[Little Man being Erased]

Because Toms Daughters Name Is Ava.
That's ****ing dumb.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Steven Tyler's daughter's name is Liv therefore 'L.I.V.' is short for Aerosmith. :)

[morrissey]

****ing A.P.P.L.E.

[mdmetalhead]

this band blows
and so does blink 182
the only goog cd they had was Dude Ranch

[neighborhood fascist]

this band blows
and so does blink 182
the only goog cd they had was Dude Ranch
Even that album blew.

[Dave de Sylvia]

goog gog!

[Iluvatar]

Meh, I don't think fascist likes anything Blink related. Let's hope he does a first day review giving it a 1, then.

[Little Man being Erased]

Steven Tyler's daughter's name is Liv therefore 'L.I.V.' is short for Aerosmith. :)

****ing A.P.P.L.E.
Oh you two.

Fickle rockstars.

[Iai]

Frank Zappa is shortened to Moon Unit don't ya know.

[Dave de Sylvia]

He's already short enough.

[punkrocker-182]

That's ****ing dumb.

Hey its still the truth.
Tom's Cool.

[ThaFleastyler]

Meh, I don't think fascist likes anything Blink related. Let's hope he does a first day review giving it a 1, then.
I hope he does because that would be one angry review dude! It could shatter the record for Unintentional Comedy in a Music Review Ever!

[Pazz]

Has everyone here who has commented on Angels & Airwaves actually heard the new CD? I bet a majority of you haven't, and you shouldn't bash something until you have given it a listen.

[Steerpike]

Has everyone here who has commented on Angels & Airwaves actually heard the new CD? I bet a majority of you haven't, and you shouldn't bash something until you have given it a listen.

I've listened to a few songs. Didn't like any of them. Boring, overhyped, unoriginal crap. On that logic, why should I assume that the album proper is going to be any better and I should give Tom Delonge my money.

[Pazz]

I've listened to a few songs. Didn't like any of them. Boring, overhyped, unoriginal crap. On that logic, why should I assume that the album proper is going to be any better and I should give Tom Delonge my money.

Well atleast you have given it a listen and you have your opinon. I respect your opinon, I just have a different one.

There is just some people who hate Tom and everything that has to do with him, and there are more and more jumping on the "I hate Tom bandwagon".

[ThaFleastyler]

I haven't heard the CD. I have no opinion.

Although, I've heard the single "The Adventure" and seen the video, and didn't particularly enjoy either. I should also note that I'm one of 7 people alive who actually bought and enjoyed Enema of the State. Tom DeLonge is fine in my book.

[NicetoKnowyou]

The speakers on my computer are broken so i havent been able to listen to any Angels and Airwaves yet.Ive been really curious though because Tom Delonge is saying theyre the best band in the universe. Everyone seems to be bashing them... Are they really that bad? What do they sound like?

[Steerpike]

The speakers on my computer are broken so i havent been able to listen to any Angels and Airwaves yet.Ive been really curious though because Tom Delonge is saying theyre the best band in the universe. Everyone seems to be bashing them... Are they really that bad? What do they sound like?

They sound kind of like U2 tribute band.

[Pazz]

I haven't heard the CD. I have no opinion.

Although, I've heard the single "The Adventure" and seen the video, and didn't particularly enjoy either. I should also note that I'm one of 7 people alive who actually bought and enjoyed Enema of the State. Tom DeLonge is fine in my book.

I have Enema of the State, and it's my second favourite album of theirs.

[randomthought9]

I've listened to a few songs. Didn't like any of them. Boring, overhyped, unoriginal crap. On that logic, why should I assume that the album proper is going to be any better and I should give Tom Delonge my money.


Haha, overhyped is an understatement! Didn't Tom say that the new AVA cd would be the greatest album ever? It's just Blink with more effects added. I heard a few of the singles, they aren't horrible, but they aren't anything special either.

[Phototropic]

Has everyone here who has commented on Angels & Airwaves actually heard the new CD? I bet a majority of you haven't, and you shouldn't bash something until you have given it a listen.

My gf sent it to me so she could listen when she comes over :(

Haha, overhyped is an understatement! Didn't Tom say that the new AVA cd would be the greatest album ever? It's just Blink with more effects added. I heard a few of the singles, they aren't horrible, but they aren't anything special either.

Yeah I can't believe he even thought that, did he believe it himself?

Its a load of trite...sounds like the kind of lame, floppy, half-assed feeling U2 give over

[incubliss]

Toms voice on that youtube link is so horrible. I only really like tracks 1 and 5 on the album, but even then his voice grates.

His voice has not improved a lot. Not from what I can tell anyway.

[br3ad_man]

Well, in contrast to everyone else, I heard one song on myspace and I liked it. Eh.

[Pinhead82]

Worth the hype or not, I happen to like Angels and Airwaves. It's a refreshing and mature change from the whole poop-joke Blink thing. In fact, after this I can't even see Tom ever getting back with the Blink boys. Why would he? It would be a huge leap backwards for him.

Tom is rather full of himself. This became apparent down here in San Diego last night when AVA took over the big alternative station for the evening. It got politcal, and he went into Aliens and Conpiracy Theories. Please...save it Tom. A lot of people don't want to hear it.

But I think Tom's attitude and all his self promotion and hype is a result of him trying to prove something. Not only prove something to us, but to himself. Like, he's trying to out-do Blink 182, or convince himself that he doesn't need them anymore. He's trying to prove to the world, and to his former bandmates that he can make great music even without his former band. But that's just my opinion.

That said, I saw the band on Saturday night and I thought it was an excellent show. Unlike Blink, where CD versions and live versions barely sound like the same song, AVA sounded almost perfect live. All the sounds, guitars etc were recreated very well. The sound was very atmospheric and that epic quality was maintained live. I was afraid they would sound thin live with much of the sound lacking. Not so. I was impressed.

Can I ask a stupid question?


OK.


Why the **** is Angels and Airwaves shortened to AVA?

If you look at their logo carefully, the V is in fact an upside-down A meaning it's technically supposed to be an acronym for Angels And Airwaves. It is identical to the two A's, only flipped upside down. It was probably just arranged the way it is because, as mentioned above, Tom's daughters name is Ava and he was probably just being clever. Not sure everyone quite gets it though. I don't think "AVA" is supposed to be an alternative name for Angels and Airwaves. At least...that probably wasn't the original intent. It's like in the movie "That Thing You Do". The One-ders was intended to be a clever play on words. No one got it though and everyone called them the "Oneeeders". Make sense?

[deejuks2]

Thats all it is is a quarter-assed attempt to be rock "gods" by adding in and echo effect to every instrument and every track.


it sucks imo, and i hate it.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Woah, Pinhead82, I like you.
You have one post, and you've already earned my respect.
You made your point, AND backed it up with evidence, not to mention used correct grammer, mostly.
Not bad for a 'noob'.

Fellow noob*

[Dave de Sylvia]

There's an interesting article on AVA at allmusic this week:

huh (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE47818DD4FAD7420CC932F54D0A47AF7508763 F2810A2D4B5CD0FB3247801162C274F888CFE38739B166ADFC 31A65A0FD586E75CFDDB6C3D3D9D8EDB&sql=61::65VP)

[RockISdead420]

they suck. every song sounds the same. Its blink with keyboards.

[Steerpike]

There's an interesting article on AVA at allmusic this week:

huh (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE47818DD4FAD7420CC932F54D0A47AF7508763 F2810A2D4B5CD0FB3247801162C274F888CFE38739B166ADFC 31A65A0FD586E75CFDDB6C3D3D9D8EDB&sql=61::65VP)

Sounds about right to me. The instant you hear an artist shooting their mouth off about the greatness of their band or album before it's even released, you know it's going to be crap.

The exception to this rule is of course Manowar, but that's because other bands play, but Manowar kill.

[DanD]

I saw them playing a few songs on tv today.

Boooorrrrinnnnnggggg.

[Malakian Worshipper]

I read somewhere on allmusic.com that Tom wanted to make this the greatest album in all of music, or something to that effect. So I went to listen to some samples, and all the melodies are so predictable, I mean I never minded blink's music but this doesn't even hold a candle to his promise of something good.

To make the best, you need to know what the best is!

BTW, its the 1st time ive been here in nearly a year, good to be posting again.

[Iai]

I actually heard some of their stuff.

Crap.

[RockISdead420]

tom has the absolute worse voice live.....utterly horrible.

[mike-o]

So, I heard on the news that this band is bringing a musical revolution on. WHAT THE ****. IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERY ****ING INDIE SONG WITHIN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. This is crap.

discuss

[Syncratic]

I think that Pinhead dude above was actually Tom trying to defend his tripe.

Yeah, this music is boring and Tom DeLonge has, without a doubt, the worst voice in pop music this decade.

[DepthsOfDreams555]

I saw Angels and Airwaves last Thursday, it was really good.

[equivalent51]

Did Tom really mean that it was going to be the best cd ever, or was he like joking or something. that doesnt sound like somthing someone would say seriously.

[Jody LeCompte]

I absolutely hate Angels & Airwaves but I have to agree with the threadstart and say it's better than anything Blink 182 ever did.

[menikmati]

So, I heard on the news that this band is bringing a musical revolution on. WHAT THE ****. IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERY ****ING INDIE SONG WITHIN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. This is crap.

discuss
Like what other indie song? I mean come on, that statement is bold - and pretty stupid.

I don't like Angels & Airwaves, and still don't.

[Pazz]

Why didn't you just let this thread die peacefully?

[dirtypirate337]

I'd say that Tom Delonge has the whiniest voice of all time. But he's got more money than me.

[Against Miik!]

Why didn't you just let this thread die peacefully?

No, because i'm gonna post.

I saw AVA live on Fuse, and I must say, although Tom still isn't the greatest singer, he's gotten a lot better. At least he sounds like he does on the album. Again, that may not be a lot, but to make a live act sound the same as the album isn't half bad. He SUCKED when he was with Blink.

[Bad Blood]

AvA are pretty decent I think. Overhyped, yes, but still good music. It took about 10 plays to actually make an impact on me or anything, for about 2 weeks, this album was awesome. It got boring quickly too, which is gay.

[sid121]

yeh there album is really good!! i got it and was impressed...blink 182 +mature i would say

[Surtr]

No, because i'm gonna post.

I saw AVA live on Fuse, and I must say, although Tom still isn't the greatest singer, he's gotten a lot better. At least he sounds like he does on the album. Again, that may not be a lot, but to make a live act sound the same as the album isn't half bad. He SUCKED when he was with Blink.
I think with Blink he didn't care that he sounded like ****, in fact that was cool too them. Because their whole attitude was this kinda' "layed back, who gives a ****" kinda' thing.

With AvA he's aiming for a message that differs from the "who gives a ****" idea.

Let's face it, you can't spread a message while sounding so retarded that no one takes you seriously. And with Blink, they didn't wanna' be taken seriously.

[Erik6387]

Angels & Airwaves are decent but way overhyped. They have a serious problem with all their songs sounding the same. They all sound like Box Car Racer mixed with slower U2. It doesn't help that Tom has a pretty abrasive voice. There are a lot of singers with damn good abrasive voices, but Tom Delonge is not one of them. Some examples of ones I enjoy are Cedric (The Mars Volta), Craig Owens (Chiodos), Anthony Green (Circa Survive). That's all for now.

-Erik

[redrum777]

Angels and Airwaves Fall Tour Dates 2006 with the Sounds and Envy on the Coast:


11/3 Las Vegas, NV - The Joint

11/4 Salt Lake City, UT - Great Salt Air Theater

11/6 Oklahoma City, OK - Bricktown

11/7 Tulsa, OK - Cain's Ballroom

11/8 Des Moines, IA - Val Air Ballroom

11/10 DeKalb, IL - Northern Illinois University

11/11 Grand Rapids, MI - Orbit Room

11/12 Pittsburgh, PA - Ice Garden Arena

11/14 Albany, NY - The Armory

11/15 Sayreville, NJ - Starland Ballroom

11/17 Providence, RI - Lupo's

11/18 Atlantic City, NJ - House of Blues

11/19 University Park, PA - Bryce Jordan Center (Penn State University)

11/21 Hartford, CT - Webster Theatre


Click on the link below or copy and paste it into a new browser for presale tickets:

http://www.musictoday.com/redirect/bounce.asp?cid=17270

[Speedle]

Guess their last album is the best of all! Do you agree with me?