Report Problems/Make Suggestions/Ask Questions

[totah]

Wow, I never realised our bio-geo-social universe was so easily quantifiable along one mathematical axis!

[Der Übermensch]

Because you're not in favor of school vouchers. Therefore, you are slightly farther to the left, though I can't say how much farther. But there's something you're liberal on.

Besides the fact of 'how can that make me a radical leftist', I'm not sure I have ever stated that on this forum before regardless...

[Volumnius Flush]

Wow, I never realised our bio-geo-social universe was so easily quantifiable along one mathematical axis!

School vouchers is a social issue. It involves fiscal matters but is ultimately a social issue so yes it is quantifiable along one mathematical axis.

Besides the fact of 'how can that make me a radical leftist', I'm not sure I have ever stated that on this forum before regardless...

So you are against them?

[Der Übermensch]

I'm not saying one way or the other. I just find it fascinating that as proof, you completely made something up. I've recently stated enough opinions that you surely could have dug one of them up, no?

[1338 h4x0r]

School vouchers is a social issue. It involves fiscal matters but is ultimately a social issue so yes it is quantifiable along one mathematical axis.

What the hell does that mean

[guitrguy]

I smell another VF ban tbqh.l

[Dr Hooch]

But I'm nothing like Obama either :-\
no the joke is that anyone who steve doesn't agree with is a "radical leftist" even if that person is so mainstream as to be the democratic party candidate in a US election which is about as unradical as you can get

[Der Übermensch]

You support the Palestinian people.

I'm not as pro-Israel as Steve is, but I generally argue in their favor (just ask him!).

[Volumnius Flush]

no the joke is that anyone who steve doesn't agree with is a "radical leftist" even if that person is so mainstream as to be the democratic party candidate in a US election which is about as unradical as you can get

Obama is the most liberal man in Congress. Oh wait... the entire world.

I'm not as pro-Israel as Steve is, but I generally argue in their favor (just ask him!).

Sorry, thought you were someone else.

[Der Übermensch]

Dennis Kucinich is the most liberal man in Congress, if I had to lay bets.

[1338 h4x0r]

No, Obama isn't.

[Der Übermensch]

Well, looks like McDermot is the most liberal. Kucinich is only #5 in the house. Lost my bet :(

[dei]

Why does everyone say that!?

Anyone to the left of VF and Steve, either fiscally or socially, is a radical leftist.

[Volumnius Flush]

Dennis Kucinich is the most liberal man in Congress, if I had to lay bets.

He voted against Real ID and HR 1955.

Anyone to the left of VF and Steve, either fiscally or socially, is a radical leftist.

Maybe because we're center-leftists in disguise.

[dei]

Or maybe because you're both horribly retarded.

[Der Übermensch]

He voted against Real ID and HR 1955.
Point? He is ranked #5 most liberal out of 535 MC's.

Obama is ranked 89th fyi.

[Volumnius Flush]

Point? He is ranked #5 most liberal out of 535 MC's.

Obama is ranked 89th fyi.

Then it's awfully funny I like Kucinich better than Obama.

[Der Übermensch]

Then it's awfully funny how little you actually know about either one.

[Volumnius Flush]

Then it's awfully funny how little you actually know about either one.

You don't remember Reagan's 80% doctrine do you?

Huh huh, your butt kinda looks like baloney. With pimples.

Mods, please vanquish the enemy threat. Apparently 1338 has cameras posted up in my apartment or is somehow spying on me. Not to say this is true, just that it is open to interpretation what it actually looks like.

[1338 h4x0r]

Face it, VF, you have a problem with your penis. Maybe you should wash it or something.

[Volumnius Flush]

Face it, VF, you have a problem with your penis. Maybe you should wash it or something.

Are you like reading my mind or something? Because I do have dry skin.

[Der Übermensch]

You don't remember Reagan's 80% doctrine do you?

I fail to see how invoking that makes you aware of Kucinich's platform, which was what my point was.

You don't remember Kucinich...
•Trying to impeach Bush and Cheney
•Pushing for federal legalization of gay marriage
•Advocating Universal Health Care
•Expanding welfare and SS
•Being anti-death penalty
•Being extremely pro-union
•Being very anti-gun.
•Expanding federal protection of abortion
•Supporting free public education
•Being a complete peacenik

Thats all I can think of atm.
He makes me look as conservative as you!!!

Are you like reading my mind or something? Because I do have dry skin.
If you jerk off less, it won't be as chaffed.

[dei]

I like Kucinich. :)

[totah]

This thread is for serious problems, suggestions and questions you guys, stop ruining it for the rest of us by talking about infinitely boring and irrelevant American congressional politics.

[Volumnius Flush]

You don't remember Kucinich...
•Trying to impeach Bush and Cheney
•Pushing for federal legalization of gay marriage
•Expanding welfare and SS
•Supporting free public education


There is a conservative argument for all these things. Just as there is one to legalize drugs.


If you jerk off less, it won't be as chaffed.

No, when I wash I use hand soap and it irritates my ball skin.

[Dr Hooch]

Just use a simple bodywash, maybe a tea tree oil based one if you're experiencing soreness.If you still have problems you'll just have to make do with natural soap (maybe dove soap or something else pH controlled)

[totah]

Olive oil soap is good for me. I have crappy skin also. It doesn't lather up all that much, but that's hardly important in soap.

[Danger Bird]

Guys sorry but why on earth is the "proof of god" thread still open?

[Dr Hooch]

VF and I are having a very interesting discussion about how he's actually an atheist.

[Volumnius Flush]

Guys sorry but why on earth is the "proof of god" thread still open?

Because you're a troll.

[Smokey D]

From now on, if VF or 1338 (or anyone else) mention Christianity, evolution, God, being conservative, trolling, "MXs laws", Steve, dinosaurs, assorted stupid comments or anything else that's disruptive of a thread's purpose and there hasn't been a genuine shift in the topic, they will be banned for an indefinite period of time.

What counts as stupid, disruptive or genuine is at my discretion.

[dei]

You've killed all discussion in PNWI.

[1338 h4x0r]

From now on, if VF or 1338 (or anyone else) mention Christianity, evolution, God, being conservative, trolling, "MXs laws", Steve, dinosaurs, assorted stupid comments or anything else that's disruptive of a thread's purpose and there hasn't been a genuine shift in the topic, they will be banned for an indefinite period of time.

What counts as stupid, disruptive or genuine is at my discretion.

Check your rep

[Smokey D]

Don't be an ***, 1338. You know perfectly well that I don't want to stop discussion. I want you to stop being a disruption. When you antagonise VF or spam inane crap in the middle of a still viable thread you go against the rules set out by Med. I don't have time to moderate here every day. I leave it to your discretion what you think is appropriate. But I'm laying out some ground rules based on what I've observed to be derailing topics.

[Iscariot]

This thread is for serious problems, suggestions and questions you guys, stop ruining it for the rest of us by talking about infinitely boring and irrelevant American congressional politics.

american politics are the only politics that matter

[1338 h4x0r]

Don't be an ***, 1338. You know perfectly well that I don't want to stop discussion. I want you to stop being a disruption. When you antagonise VF or spam inane crap in the middle of a still viable thread you go against the rules set out by Med. I don't have time to moderate here every day. I leave it to your discretion what you think is appropriate. But I'm laying out some ground rules based on what I've observed to be derailing topics.

I hope the 'scientific proof of God' thread doesn't pass for 'viable'. Because that one quite honestly deserves to have more trolls than Jotunheim.

[Hababi]

Smokey you are far too tolerant
By now I would've perm'd 1338
DO IT
PUSH THE BUTTON
take him out

[Dave de Sylvia]

I hope the 'scientific proof of God' thread doesn't pass for 'viable'. Because that one quite honestly deserves to have more trolls than Jotunheim.
Anything that counts for healthy, insightful (k maybe not insightful) conversation is a viable topic. Trolling said discussion because you're incapable of allowing a discussion you're not interested in to happen without deflecting all the attention to yourself... is a bannable offence.

This isn't advanced microchemics, it's really straightforward system to ensure that a minority of children don't turn intelligent people away with their shenanigans and what the not.

[Volumnius Flush]

From now on, if VF or 1338 (or anyone else) mention Christianity, evolution, God, being conservative, trolling, "MXs laws", Steve, dinosaurs, assorted stupid comments or anything else that's disruptive of a thread's purpose and there hasn't been a genuine shift in the topic, they will be banned for an indefinite period of time.

What counts as stupid, disruptive or genuine is at my discretion.

I am not trying to be an idiot Smokey, I am just making some clarification.

These seem to be very popular topics in PNWI, so I am assuming not that they are not to be talked about, but rather they are to be discussed in the designated thread.

In addition to this, I make the observation that I (and 1338) are not to end all posting in PNWI altogether, but rather that when we do post, we are to remain on topic, at all times, and not derail threads which would include if someone attempted to change the subject we would then simply reiterate a point in response to the initial topic and try to revive interest in that.

So it is not about us posting, per se, it is about what we post.

Do I follow you or do I miss something?

[totah]

Lol, I love how every two months we go through these seemingly ground-breaking discussions about posting.

Spat Out Sexy Men (Systematically Orchestrated Sado-Masochism) is right, it's really very simple. You don't be an idiot, and you discuss things without getting heated up. Getting emotional might work in real-time, but "OMG you obbviously have no *&%$ing idea what you're on about you neo-nazi" isn't going to earn you any debate points online. Unless you find more convincing emoticons.

Can I be a mod?

[Dr Hooch]

Eran is of the "Anarcho-moderativist" school of thought

[totah]

In my defence, authority that hates itself is the best kind of authority.

[Danger Bird]

hey VF forgot his meds or something and he's just insulting and making death threats in a PNaWI thread. Smokey, care to step in?

[Danger Bird]

I don't give a **** what he repped you VF. Keep your stupid, petty personal squabbles out of the thread. If all you want to do is insult each other, don't ruin other people's serious discussion with it. This is what Smokey was talking about.

[1338 h4x0r]

Smokey you are far too tolerant
By now I would've perm'd 1338
DO IT
PUSH THE BUTTON
take him out

My pagan fury burns too strong. Plus I have computer skills. You know I'd come back anyway.

And I notice you have nothing to say about this:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16433923&postcount=28

Of course you want me perm'd: I show you for an ignorant shill constantly. I wouldn't want to be embarrassed that much either.

Anything that counts for healthy, insightful (k maybe not insightful) conversation is a viable topic. Trolling said discussion because you're incapable of allowing a discussion you're not interested in to happen without deflecting all the attention to yourself... is a bannable offence.

Nobody but VF thought the thread in question was of any merit at all. Just look at it. A thread titled 'scientific proof of God', that opens up with a blatant argumentum ad populum, is not 'scientific' in any way, and is even inconsistent with VF's actual beliefs ... is not a ****ing worthwhile thread. It's a ****ing abortion, worthy only of ridicule ... OK?!?!

[Hababi]

Next person who posts who is not reporting a problem, making a suggestion, or asking a question of the mods, after this post, is banned.

[Smokey D]

Okay trolling in this thread counts too.

[Danger Bird]

:chug:

[spitfirejunky]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16443718&postcount=1

[Dr Hooch]

Next person who posts who is not reporting a problem, making a suggestion, or asking a question of the mods, after this post, is banned.

on what authority?

[Iscariot]

steve still thinks he's a mod or something he seems to forget he failed miserably and was demodded before

[Hababi]

1338 should be banned for advertising and general worthlessness.

[totah]

I have a suggestion. We should rename the community thread. It's gotten stale. We should hold a brainstorm and referendum to decide on a new one. The way we go on about it, should be healthy to try out a little harmless democracy.

[Der Übermensch]

What did VF get banned for this time?

[Scr0tum]

What did VF get banned for this time?

Spamming the report problems thread, duh, don't you know anything?

You must really like VF, otherwise you wouldn't be asking about him all the time.

[Der Übermensch]

Well I was gone over a week, didn't feel like reading back.

And like isn't the applicable word at all.

The schadenfreude every-time this happens is just overwhelming.

[Scr0tum]

Well I was gone over a week, didn't feel like reading back.

And like isn't the applicable word at all.

The schadenfreude every-time this happens is just overwhelming.

Just admit it. You're in love with him.

[Der Übermensch]

He certainly makes this forum more entertaining for me. There isn't another punching bag here quite like him.

[Scr0tum]

He certainly makes this forum more entertaining for me. There isn't another punching bag here quite like him.

Well, I'm sure he would like to hear that. He's probably here to keep the masses informed and entertained at the same time. A great combination if you ask me.

[Der Übermensch]

It's not like I don't know you are VF... So why bother talking in the third person?

[Scr0tum]

It's not like I don't know you are VF... So why bother talking in the third person?

You make me laugh. Why didn't you accept my friend request? That was a low blow.

[Der Übermensch]

Because I'm paranoid enough to think there is some secret ploy behind it :p

But because you stopped using the third person, I might just reciprocate and accept it :p

[Scr0tum]

I might just reciprocate and accept it :p

Reciprocate the love I've shown to you?

[Der Übermensch]

Don't press your luck.

[Scr0tum]

From now on, if VF or 1338 (or anyone else) mention Christianity, evolution, God, being conservative, trolling, "MXs laws", Steve, dinosaurs, assorted stupid comments or anything else that's disruptive of a thread's purpose and there hasn't been a genuine shift in the topic, they will be banned for an indefinite period of time.

What counts as stupid, disruptive or genuine is at my discretion.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16454478&postcount=126

Maybe it's because they spend too much time masturbating to Jesus

In clear violation of the rules.

[1338 h4x0r]

You just don't understand figures of speech, do you?

btw, religious fervor falls under the broad heading of 'People are stupid'

[Scr0tum]

You just don't understand figures of speech, do you?

btw, religious fervor falls under the broad heading of 'People are stupid'

He said no talks of God or religion. You ruined your chances of being taken seriously now. Why do I have the bad rap of being the religious one, when you are far more anti-religious than I am religious? Your intolerance has not gone unnoticed.

EDIT: And there is no point in editing your post, the evidence mounts against you.

[1338 h4x0r]

Whatever will I do?!?!

[Iskandar]

Ban Scr0tum. IP ban. The tyranny of the Sith will never return.

[mph4ever]

how do i know if one of my posts have been deleted?

[1338 h4x0r]

Ban Scr0tum. IP ban. The tyranny of the Sith will never return.

VF is one of the Council of the Seven Elder 1339 Arch-h4x0rs and is fully immune to your pitiful mortal 'IP bans'.

Tremble before Flush the Terrible.

[Invicta_Veritas]

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=560120

Will somebody please control mappy (Charizard)? He's like a toddler. Posts need cleaned up.

And here too:
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559899&page=7

[Charizard]

Could somebody please control Matthew "Axl" Peck, he's writing satan music and ranting about how democracy fosters the idea of democracy is founded upon the minority, which always eventually leads to revolt.

[Iscariot]

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=560131
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559981

^ spam threads

http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559540
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559824
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559553

^ these have all reached the point of no return

that is all

[Der Übermensch]

those last three have all been dead for the better part of a week anyways...

[spitfirejunky]

Unedited:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16467461&postcount=73
Edited:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16467442&postcount=71

I wouldn't ban him though.

[1338 h4x0r]

VF is definitely worth the peanut gallery entertainment. If I were a mod, I'd never ban him even though he has threatened me on several occasions.

[Hababi]

then why are you reporting it? :p

[Scr0tum]

Unedited:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16467461&postcount=73
Edited:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16467442&postcount=71

I wouldn't ban him though.

What would you do? Report me to my ISP?

[Scr0tum]

VF is definitely worth the peanut gallery entertainment. If I were a mod, I'd never ban him even though he has threatened me on several occasions.

When did I ever threaten you? You have no proof.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Worst thread ever.

[1338 h4x0r]

then why are you reporting it? :p

http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=ignominy

[Smokey D]

how do i know if one of my posts have been deleted?

It stops being there.

Ban Scr0tum. IP ban. The tyranny of the Sith will never return.

Only admins can IP ban.

[dei]

So is Scr0tum banned, yet?

****, he's still here.

[Scr0tum]

death threat

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16467298&postcount=88

[dei]

I was obviously making fun of you for getting into whatever with Iscariot in that one thread.

[Scr0tum]

I was obviously making fun of you for getting into whatever with Iscariot in that one thread.

Yes it was so obvious. And inexcusable. Admit you were wrong. You will never be a mod now.

[Iscariot]

yeah that was fun i think i scared him though

@ dei

[dei]

Ugh, please just leave already.

[Smokey D]

Wait, didn't I ban VF?

Coming back on an alt is a breach.

[Scr0tum]

yeah that was fun i think i scared him though

@ dei

Yes you really scared me. I was shaking in my boots! Please, I deal with much more dangerous situations on a day-to-day basis.

[Scr0tum]

Wait, didn't I ban VF?

Coming back on an alt is a breach.

A breach of what? Look up Oubliette aka 1338 and tell me it is a breach.

[guitrguy]

pwn'd

[spitfirejunky]

then why are you reporting it? :p

I just wanted to humiliate him.

[dei]

Registration is down, isn't it?

So maybe this time he will stay gone for good.

[Smokey D]

Probably not since I didn't ban his main forever.

[guitrguy]

You guys do have to admit VF brings some unintentional lulz

[Iscariot]

Yes you really scared me. I was shaking in my boots! Please, I deal with much more dangerous situations on a day-to-day basis.

you mean like trying to figure out how to plug an appliance into an electrical socket without the use of a fork?

[Iskandar]

Probably not since I didn't ban his main forever.You should consider it.
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16474465&postcount=123

[Volumnius Flush]

OMG OMG HE CALLED ME A HICK THE BASTARD!

This forum is full of irreligious left-wingers and a lone hick from Texas ain't gonna change that.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16474459&postcount=120

[Iskandar]

"Hick" isn't nearly as offensive as blatant homophobia.

[Volumnius Flush]

"Hick" isn't nearly as offensive as blatant homophobia.

SOSM said the slur is only homophobia if you are the one who is homophobic in response to Steve. Hick versus fag is an argument of opinions and I personally find your slur much worse than mine.

[Iskandar]

That's because you yourself are a homophobe.

[Volumnius Flush]

That's because you yourself are a homophobe.

I am not a homophobe. You have no proof of this accusation and what you are doing now by slandering me is illegal and would be upheld in a court of law. Cease and desist commie.

[1338 h4x0r]

:lol:

He lives in Canada, ***

[Iskandar]

Whoops, I find "commie" offensive.

[Volumnius Flush]

:lol:

He lives in Canada, ***

Fine, we'll take it to the Hague in the international courts and he will be imprisoned there.

[Volumnius Flush]

Whoops, I find "commie" offensive.

Would it be offensive to call me a blind Christian? No. Or a hick Texan, or an inbred fag? Possibly. Commie however is what you are; be proud my good son!

[1338 h4x0r]

:lol:

You're more likely to become a mod then even to see that court case, much less win it

[Volumnius Flush]

:lol:

You're more likely to become a mod then even to see that court case, much less win it

Then let's have our own case. Here at PNWI, VF versus Dropper witha countersuit filed by Dropper. We will have one week to subpoena the witnesses and find suitable counsel. It is on 1338!

[Iskandar]

PNWI members in favour of banning VF, say aye.

Aye!

[Volumnius Flush]

PNWI members in favour of banning VF, say aye.

Aye!

This is not a quorom. We will have the first PNWI court case. With Steve as the judge.

[1338 h4x0r]

Nay, tbh

[Iskandar]

I see reason to believe that Steve is not an impartial judge and therefore is unsuitable.

[Volumnius Flush]

Nay, tbh

Well thank you, friend.

I see reason to believe that Steve is not an impartial judge and therefore is unsuitable.

It is not a question of impartiality, but rather most impartiality. Steve fits that description well.

[Iskandar]

Steve is not impartial because he's a neoconservative like you.

Better idea: Get Smokey D to permaban you.

[Volumnius Flush]

Steve is not impartial because he's a neoconservative like you.

Well then who would you suggest would be a good judge?

[1338 h4x0r]

Well thank you, friend.

You should understand that I'm not in favor of banning you because you give me cheap entertainment

[Volumnius Flush]

You should understand that I'm not in favor of banning you because you give me cheap entertainment

I understand fully. I also understand I'll take whatever support I can get.

[Iskandar]

Well then who would you suggest would be a good judge?Smokey D, who is already our moderator. But this stupid "court case" idea isn't going to happen. More likely you'll be banned.

[Volumnius Flush]

Smokey D, who is already our moderator. But this stupid "court case" idea isn't going to happen. More likely you'll be banned.

Highly doubtful. Smokey is not the judicial, he represents the executive. We need a firm PNWI frequenter who will make a good judge in this case.

[Iskandar]

You must have missed where I said:

But this stupid "court case" idea isn't going to happen. More likely you'll be banned.

[Volumnius Flush]

You must have missed where I said:

It is no more idiotic than PNWI debates.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I thought I was bad.

[Hababi]

If VF gets banned, please take 1338 with him. Neither contributes anything.

[Volumnius Flush]

If VF gets banned, please take 1338 with him. Neither contributes anything.

Yeah Steve and other than Invicta we are the most hated members of all in the PNWI. Maybe you should leave to.

[Iskandar]

1338 only trolls VF.

[Hababi]

no he trolls me too and invicta and Smokey

and...that's kinda all he does.

[Iskandar]

Everyone trolls you because you're the only regular right-winger here.

[Hababi]

My position on global warming, campaign finance reform, and health care hardly qualifies me as right wing :p

I'm actually rather centrist, leaning neoliberal. It just so happens that a lot of people on here are far left.

[Iskandar]

My position on global warming, campaign finance reform, and health care hardly qualifies me as right wing :p

I'm actually rather centrist, leaning neoliberal. It just so happens that a lot of people on here are far left.Neoliberalism is right-wing. I don't know why Smokey argues that it's not.

People here aren't far left. Coheneran and Fenwood were far left.

[Hababi]

Fenwood was a gimmick and I'm leaning toward believing that Coheneran was too. Folks on here are much further left than I am right.

[Invicta_Veritas]

A position on global warming doesn't classify you as either wing. It classifies you as either someone who believes or someone who doesn't.

[Iskandar]

Fenwood was a gimmick and I'm leaning toward believing that Coheneran was too. Folks on here are much further left than I am right.Who's far left here? Me, Akira, Jude, 1338, and other regulars are not far left. Der Uebermensch and others are more like libertarians. Then we have the pro-globalist crowd like Smokey D and SOP.

[dei]

I am very far left.

[Smokey D]

I object to the idea that I'm not left. Just coz I'm not a heartless pinko.

Saying globalisation is inherently right-wing is like saying Pat Buchanan is left-wing because he hates free trade.

[Hababi]

Who's far left here? Me, Akira, Jude, 1338, and other regulars are not far left. Der Uebermensch and others are more like libertarians. Then we have the pro-globalist crowd like Smokey D and SOP.
Jude is far out on some things. I don't have a gauge of Akira's politics because the only posts of his that I read are related to Obama threads. Ubermensch and Siva are the libertarians. 1338 is a troll. I'd classify you as a leftist.

[Hababi]

I object to the idea that I'm not left. Just coz I'm not a heartless pinko.

Saying globalisation is inherently right-wing is like saying Pat Buchanan is left-wing because he hates free trade.

Anti-trade is populism and populism is more a spirit than actually being left or right.

[Iskandar]

I'd classify you as a leftist.Well duh:)

But I'm not far left. I'm center-left. Far left is stuff like anarcho-communism.
I object to the idea that I'm not left. Just coz I'm not a heartless pinko.Hey, us pinkos think you people are heartless.
Saying globalisation is inherently right-wing is like saying Pat Buchanan is left-wing because he hates free trade.No, but neoliberalism is. The left-wing position on globalisation is that its inequalities are a higher priority than efficiency.

Opposition to the entire process tends to be from the fringes.
Anti-trade is populism and populism is more a spirit than actually being left or right.Yes, Steve's on the right track here.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Who's far left here? Me, Akira, Jude, 1338, and other regulars are not far left. Der Uebermensch and others are more like libertarians. Then we have the pro-globalist crowd like Smokey D and SOP.


I don't know what I would be classified as. I have extreme left views, extreme right views, and very existential views.

Liberconservexistentialistic?

Lol.

[Iskandar]

I don't know what I would be classified as. I have extreme left views, extreme right views, and very existential views.

Liberconservexistentialistic?

Lol.I don't really know where you stand except that your economics are pretty right-wing. How long have you been posting here?

[Smokey D]

Hey, us pinkos think you people are heartless.

Which is pretty stupid really since it's not like I support exploitation of poor people. You on the other hand want to keep the brown man down.


No, but neoliberalism is. The left-wing position on globalisation is that its inequalities are a higher priority than efficiency.


Okay Lenin.

It's not like the left-wing is bigger than narrowly defined socialism or anything.

[dei]

I don't know if I would put myself on the left because I think I'd rate pretty high on an authoritarianism scale or whatever.

[Iskandar]

Which is pretty stupid really since it's not like I support exploitation of poor people. You on the other hand want to keep the brown man down.That's funny because I thought it was the other way around.
Okay Lenin.Don't even do that.
It's not like the left-wing is bigger than narrowly defined socialism or anything.I don't really know what you're talking about.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I don't know if I would put myself on the left because I think I'd rate pretty high on an authoritarianism scale or whatever.
Lots of lefties love authoritarianism.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I don't really know where you stand except that your economics are pretty right-wing. How long have you been posting here?

Off and on for a few months, consistently for a few weeks.

Economically, I'm extremely right wing. As far as civil rights go, I'm pretty far left, but I'm probably more existential when it comes to personal rights and moral issues.

[Iskandar]

Lots of lefties love authoritarianism.So do lots and lots of righties. What's your point?

[Hababi]

So do lots and lots of righties. What's your point?

Lefties coddle leftist autocrats more than righties coddle rightie ones. See: Fidel worship and Che fandom.

[Iskandar]

Lefties coddle leftist autocrats more than righties coddle rightie ones. See: Fidel worship and Che fandom.Nobody actually does that except teenagers wearing t-shirts from Hot Topic. Get real.

In the real world, the US has supported far more right-wing dictators than left-wing ones.

[Hababi]

Nobody actually does that except teenagers wearing t-shirts from Hot Topic. Get real.

You'd be surprised. There is much Fidel admiration amongst liberal American college students. And I couldn't begin to amass a count of the quantity of Che merchandise I've seen around campus.

In the real world, the US has supported far more right-wing dictators than left-wing ones.

Well duh that's a good thing.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Iskander:
Right wing dictators make more sense, tbh.

Are you going to respond to my last post? lol

[Dave de Sylvia]

So do lots and lots of righties. What's your point?
Nothing. Just that having authoritarian predilections doesn't undo your leftiness.

[Smokey D]

That's funny because I thought it was the other way around.

Why do you want to keep brown people poor?

Don't even do that.

Quit with the imperialism is the highest form of capitalism stuff then.

I don't really know what you're talking about.

It's a no true Scotsman argument to say 'the left wing hates neoliberalism/free trade. You like free trade. Therefore you aren't left-wing.'

[Iskandar]

Right wing dictators make more sense, tbh.
Well duh that's a good thing.Who's coddling dictators now? I don't think any dictator, right or left wing, is preferable.
Are you going to respond to my last post? lolJust to tell you that extremism is bad and you should consider moderating your ideas a bit.
Why do you want to keep brown people poor?That makes about as much sense as if I said "why do you want brown people to have poor working conditions?"
It's a no true Scotsman argument to say 'the left wing hates neoliberalism/free trade. You like free trade. Therefore you aren't left-wing.'Not really what I said, though. What I said was that neoliberalism is right wing.

[Hababi]

Well if it's between a left wing and a right wing dictator I'll generally take the right wing dictator.

[Iskandar]

Well if it's between a left wing and a right wing dictator I'll generally take the right wing dictator.It's be more logical to take whichever is less bad.

[Hababi]

Yeah and that's generally the right wing one.

[Iskandar]

Yeah and that's generally the right wing one.Where do you get off saying that?

[Hababi]

history

[Iskandar]

historyYou're going to have to do better than that.

[Smokey D]

That makes about as much sense as if I said "why do you want brown people to have poor working conditions?"

I don't since I advocate state intervention where necessary and increasing worker freedoms and rights all over the world.

Not really what I said, though. What I said was that neoliberalism is right wing.

But it's not. It's too big to be classified either right or left.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Just to tell you that extremism is bad and you should consider moderating your ideas a bit.


No, no, and no. So many things are very clear cut, with no need to compromise.

[guitrguy]

You'd be surprised. There is much Fidel admiration amongst liberal American college students. And I couldn't begin to amass a count of the quantity of Che merchandise I've seen around campus.

They are the same kids who are extremely liberal for the sake of being extremely liberal. They like rebelliousness it entails.

[1338 h4x0r]

I'm wearing black pants and a solid dark blue shirt atm

I also like beef btw

I own not one single item of Communist kitsch apparel.

[guitrguy]

What would my political label be on here? I'm interested.

[dei]

No, no, and no. So many things are very clear cut, with no need to compromise.

Good luck with that.

[Smokey D]

What would my political be on here? I'm interested.

Your what?

[Der Übermensch]

I wish red barron would come back. Now THAT was entertainment.

[guitrguy]

Your what?

Insert "label" after political.

[dei]

Communofascist.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Communofascist.

But Communism and Facism are inherently against one another :/

[Smokey D]

Sort of.

The actual dictatorships that emerged out of fascism and Marxist-Leninism weren't that different.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I know, but the principles are inherently volatile towards each other. So the term is kind of oxymoronic.

[Smokey D]

In many ways Stalin was more of a fascist than a communist. But he was also pretty big on some typically communist things.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Truth. I just had to pick the bone a little bit.

[1338 h4x0r]

Can someone ban Aristrofl and The AntiPhilosopher? I have a strong feeling they're two faces of one really faggoty coin.

[The AntiPhilosopher]

let us be fair 1338 you have posted 1000 posts per month at a steady rate and 90% of them are trolling or thread derailing comments.

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

[dei]

Can someone ban Aristrofl and The AntiPhilosopher? I have a strong feeling they're two faces of one really faggoty coin.

this.

[The AntiPhilosopher]

Dei hates free speech and freedom

and ninja edits his posts I saw what you originally wrote you fascist.

[1338 h4x0r]

You're a reckless exaggerator

[The AntiPhilosopher]

Are you a fundie your hatred for homosexuals is overbearing

[Smokey D]

1338, words like that are a bannable offence. Far more than anything AntiPhilosopher has done yet.

[dei]

Dei hates free speech and freedom

you're right, i do. so what?

[1338 h4x0r]

1338, words like that are a bannable offence. Far more than anything AntiPhilosopher has done yet.

Figure of speech

That would be like saying 'nitty-gritty' is offensive to black people because it originally meant '****** grit'.

[The AntiPhilosopher]

you're right, i do. so what?

Well if that is the case I think you should be banned for being a big fraud.

[1338 h4x0r]

Smokey, again, please ban The AntiPhilosopher. All he does is post nonsense and derail threads completely.

[Smokey D]

Figure of speech

That would be like saying 'nitty-gritty' is offensive to black people because it originally meant '****** grit'.

No, it'd be like saying I find it offensive so shut up.

Smokey, again, please ban The AntiPhilosopher. All he does is post nonsense and derail threads completely.

I haven't seen him derail anything yet.

[1338 h4x0r]

No, it'd be like saying I find it offensive so shut up.

The logic is undeniable.

[The AntiPhilosopher]

Smokey, again, please ban The AntiPhilosopher. All he does is post nonsense and derail threads completely.

It is more like any thread I enter you follow me in order to bait me into a flamewar.

And what is humorous is that thread you posted which was supposed to discredit me (as if I care whether or not you think I am credible) was gleaned from your posts and fed to the same markov chain algorithm you used on my posts in the "Ask the Anti-philosopher questions" thread.

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Put me on you IL if you can not resist the temptation to follow me about and troll me.

[1338 h4x0r]

You came here posting a bunch of deluded crap about how logic is worthless—posting it on an advanced digital logic computer, mind you—and I knew you were a troll at the outset. Of course I exposed your *** for everyone to see, and boy is it ugly.

[Smokey D]

But then you talked about wild raspberries and tasting like a pretzel so I don't think you're on firm ground.

[1338 h4x0r]

Wild raspberries grow where I live and I did indeed sweat so much that I tasted like a pretzel

That's nowhere near speaking feverishly in several threads about how logic has no value—on a computer. What I said was maybe only tangentially related to the thread (my thread), but it was grounded in reality.

[Smokey D]

It's not your thread. It's the property of MX the moment you post it here. You don't have the right to mess up a thread you start just because you think raspberries are interesting.

Post modernism, even if it's plagiarised, is a lot more interesting than how you smell and what grows around your house. You have done far more trolling in the past 2 days than AntiPhilosopher.

[1338 h4x0r]

It's not your thread. It's the property of MX the moment you post it here. You don't have the right to mess up a thread you start just because you think raspberries are interesting.p.

wat

You said I trolled my own threads before.

Besides, most people actually like my posts—specifically Mr. Ron, whom I was talking to there—where The AntiPhilosopher is consistently hated for his absurd trolling and nonsensical proclamations. So far he's done absolutely nothing but troll.

I can't believe you're standing up for him over me. Everyone hates him—with good reason.


Post modernism, even if it's plagiarised, is a lot more interesting than how you smell and what grows around your house.

Post-modernism is hardcore bullshit. It's a tale full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. The fauna of Allentown, Pennsylvania is indeed more profound than post-modernism, because almost anything is more profound than the academic equivalent of the naked emperor parading down the street.

Plus he's claiming that Ludwig Wittgenstein supports his ridiculous arguments, which is :lol:worthy because Wittgenstein was an important figure in mathematical logic.


You have done far more trolling in the past 2 days than AntiPhilosopher.

No I haven't.

[Smokey D]

You said I trolled my own threads before.

They're yours in the sense you started them. But you don't have any rights of control over them.

Besides, most people actually like my posts—specifically Mr. Ron, whom I was talking to there—where The AntiPhilosopher is consistently hated for his absurd trolling and nonsensical proclamations. So far he's done absolutely nothing but troll.

You have IM for private conversations.



I can't believe you're standing up for him over me. Everyone hates him—with good reason.

Rambling dissertations on cognitive dissonance please me more than random tangents on pretzels and raspberries.


Post-modernism is hardcore bullpoop. It's a song full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. The fauna of Allentown, Pennsylvania is indeed more profound than post-modernism, because almost anything is more profound than the academic equivalent of the naked emperor parading down the street.

Now you sound like AntiPhilosopher. We should have a thread about it.

No I haven't.

Spamming, trolling, posting inane crap. It's all the same to me.

[1338 h4x0r]

You have IM for private conversations.

Ron is never on AIM.


Rambling dissertations on cognitive dissonance please me more than random tangents on pretzels and raspberries.

Alright.


Now you sound like AntiPhilosopher. We should have a thread about it.


Yeah, hang on.


Spamming, trolling, posting inane crap. It's all the same to me.

The AntiPhilosopher covers all bases.

[Smokey D]

You post more often than he does.

[1338 h4x0r]

Yeah, but in terms of relative frequency, I troll way less than him. 100% of his posts are crap.

EDIT - And what did you do with my 1338 h4x0r / AntiPhilosopher comparison thread? You just said you wanted one a few minutes ago!

[dei]

I don't think he was being serious.

[1338 h4x0r]

Oh.

Sorry about that.

[Smokey D]

I mean you should make thread comparing your hatred for post modern philosophy (which you apparently have confused with about 10% of non-mainstream crazies) and his hatred of mainstream philosophy in general.

Yeah, but in terms of relative frequency, I troll way less than him. 100% of his posts are crap.

I care way more about volume than frequency.

[1338 h4x0r]

Show me one good instance of post-modernist philosophy.

And you need to be specific about suggestions because you, as you probably know, I won't understand them otherwise.

[Smokey D]

Derrida, Foucault, Satre, Wittgenstein.

The whole field of critical theory. Feminism.

[1338 h4x0r]

Wittgenstein's connection to post-modernism is iffy.

Foucault I don't really care for

Derrida I don't know

I take it you mean Sartre?

Besides post-modernist papers are really easy to write, look at dis

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/

[Smokey D]

Post modernism is far too big for such broad accusations to stick.

It may be easy to make a pseudo-post modern essay up but pretty much anyone let alone a trained philosopher would rip it to shreds.

Any more comments on post modernism and I'll move it to a new thread. this isn't really the place.

[Iskandar]

So there's talk of a new mod in the Site forum. I know it comes up like every six months, but I think it's worth considering this time around.

[1338 h4x0r]

Alex for mod

[dei]

How is this going to work?

[Iskandar]

Smokey D has not been enthusiastic about the idea in the past. But I think another mod is highly needed. Smokey D can't be online all the time, and because he lives in New Zealand he can't be online during peak hours.

[The AntiPhilosopher]

There is no need for moderation for those who are free can rule themselves so let us get rid of this master-slave paradigm for good

[Smokey D]

I'm all for another mod if you guys really want one.

But I dunno how we're going to work out who.

[Russell]

Election! However I think that vast majority of us would support either Iskander or Der Ubermensch.

[Smokey D]

Admin wasn't too keen on elections last time.

[Iskandar]

I have an idea of how it would work. You (Smokey D) would create an election thread. People would nominate themselves or others and you'd put those names in a poll. Leave the poll open for a decent amount of time (say 10 days or so) and then the winner would be modded by Jelle.

[dei]

Leave out obvious trolls (Psycopath, The Antiphilosopher) and Steve.

[Der Übermensch]

But I dunno how we're going to work out who.
However I think that vast majority of us would support either Iskander or Der Ubermensch.
How about both of us!?

Admin wasn't too keen on elections last time.
The glorious revolution wasn't sanctioned by the establishment. If they actually are planning on modding someone, it would be different I imagine.

[Reaganista]

i nominate no one for mod

[BassRevelation1029]

Liberate Politics Now!

Danish, anyone?

[Smokey D]

You can't actually do very much as a mod for a few months since they only give you a ban hammer after you've demonstrated yourself not to be a retard.

I didn't even know there was a site forum so that's pretty funny.

[Der Übermensch]

Liberate Politics Now!

Danish, anyone?

Ahh... those were the days :p


You can't actually do very much as a mod for a few months since they only give you a ban hammer after you've demonstrated yourself not to be a retard.
Not like I would ban often anyways. My campaign platform will be consistent with my love of liberty and freedom! Über '08!

[Smokey D]

I did that for a while.

It's easier just to ban people sometimes.

Also not responding to obvious trolls should be your first defense.

[Der Übermensch]

Well, there obviously is a point at which you need to, but I would never ban someone for simply saying things everyone else disagrees with (like when people yell for steve to get banned... ironically he is atm too).

[Smokey D]

He's banned by request.

[Der Übermensch]

lol, needed a break, eh?

[Sokrates]

Smokey D start by banning yourself you hater of freedom and free speech you seem to be quite tolerable of the numerous trolls on this forum and murder the gadfly of the city you wicked Athenian.

[1338 h4x0r]

^^^

ban him plz

[BassRevelation1029]

Not like I would ban often anyways. My campaign platform will be consistent with my love of liberty and freedom! Über '08!
you're like Ron Paul or something

too bad you'll only get like 2% of the vote :p


Hey Smokey, can you do an Ip check on these trolls?

[Sokrates]

Why because you disagree with my point of view? Do I upset the status quo?

[1338 h4x0r]

Because you're retarded

[Smokey D]

you're like Ron Paul or something

too bad you'll only get like 2% of the vote :p


Hey Smokey, can you do an Ip check on these trolls?

They're the same person but I can't IP ban and even if I could they can just change it.

[siva_chair]

I think Smokey does just fine at his job. I'd only support another mod if Smokey felt he actually needed it.

[Mr. Ron]

Yeah theres really no need for another mod.

[Russell]

They're the same person but I can't IP ban and even if I could they can just change it.

I think he meant to verify who it is, but it's pretty obvious that it's VF.

[Aaron]

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16488284&postcount=146

Obviously a current member looking for a fight.

[1338 h4x0r]

Yes can we please perm this idiot

[Smokey D]

You can't perm ban people using different IPs.

[Aaron]

Thanks for deleting the post mate.

EDIT: It's TheAntiPhilospher. Czech out the sentence structure.

[Smokey D]

I know who it is but they're different IPs so even if I got an admin to do a perma ban he'd just change his IP and come back.

[Aaron]

Just keep banning each account that pops up I say. He'll get tired, surely?

[Smokey D]

That's what I'm doing.

[Iscariot]

I'm all for another mod if you guys really want one.

But I dunno how we're going to work out who.

personally i don't think we need anyone other than you

you're fair, unbiased, willing to change if the situation requires it, and you're very informed

there is no one else on mx who is equally qualified to moderate this forum and i think it would detract from the quality of this forum if you were coupled with someone else

[Aaron]

That's what I'm doing.
and that's why we love you.

[Der Übermensch]

See... an example of where the line has been crossed.

[Tera Illuminatus]

Lines were meant to be crossed.

[Der Übermensch]

For instance this schmuck (VF, possibly, due to a reference of calling me 'das') who is resurrecting long dead threads.

[Tera Illuminatus]

I am magnificent am I not? For I bring to life that which was long dead.

[Russell]

http://musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16489446&postcount=133
VF

[mph4ever]

no more mods, please, the job is being done perfectly well by smokey in pnwi. he posts as good as anyone i've seen and there is little signs of the mod powers, except when really required and then its absolute.

[Iskandar]

Maybe we should have a poll to see how many of us want another mod.

[1338 h4x0r]

yea